GameMT E5, E6 & Plus

[prime pumice]

is there somewhere i can download the factory linux os?

e6 plus

[prime pumice]

it came with android, i assume GAME MT game system

am i not able to boot linux off of tf1?

[prisma moon]

Amazing

[wheat wagon]

What game is that

[prisma moon]

PSV Aomura Masao

[wheat wagon]

https://tenor.com/view/i-don't-understand-maya-stern-fool-me-once-i-am-not-clear-about-it-netflix-gif-14230529399628082069

Muramasa Rebirth

This running on android?

[candid ridge]

as more consoles are out there. I will upload my review video today

and later this week maybe next week how to install 64bit android, as the stock one is 32bit

[wheat wagon]

Yay waiting for android 😄

[proven python]

bruh I was hoping to get this it's mah bday today :x

[steel falcon]

oh, Happy Birthday!

[wheat wagon]

https://tenor.com/view/willj-oprah-oprah-winfrey-winfrey-you-get-a-car-gif-4398718050477799719

[uncut ermine]

Will the E6 system have any updates to the official system?

[candid ridge]

WDYM?

[mint ember]

Ordered on sale E6Plus, seller already dispatched order, hope to get it asap

[prisma moon]

Yes, I will test the operational efficiency of PSV

The Android system of e6plus

[fringe wren]

How's the fps of Muramasa on E6P? I got 40-50fps when i tested it with x55 (emmc-installed android13 from notime2d8) has same RK3566.

[candid ridge]

https://youtu.be/PIslcnKU4ak

[wheat wagon]

https://tenor.com/view/borat-borat-very-nice-verynice-thumbs-up-gif-25080066

[hard veldt]

@candid ridge thx for the video 😉

[stuck wasp]

e6 plus arrived

Looks like it has reasonable charging capabilities pulling over 2A

[eternal rose]

Where did you order from?

[stuck wasp]

Whoever was hawking it cheapest on ALI

[eternal rose]

I thought it wasn't ready yet 🫠

Wow

It has android and Linux?

[stuck wasp]

I'm charging it at the moment

will dump the emmc when I get off this work VC

it's got a tf inserted too, but I haven't ejected it to find out what it is. I didn't order it with a tf just the base 32gb model, so that's a bonus even if it's a horrible 16gb card it's a freebie

[eternal rose]

@proven python 😂

[stuck wasp]

came with screen protect and earbuds too

[eternal rose]

That's awesome that you actually got it. I held off bc the seller said it wasn't ready. I could have gotten it for like $60 with coupons

[stuck wasp]

I'll check the charger capabilities in a sec, but it's already pulling more watts than any of the other rk3566 devices I have. So that's a good sign they at least put a bit better charge controller in it. Hopefully it does PD direction sense resistors at least

[eternal rose]

Do you mind sharing the seller?

[stuck wasp]

Iuno I've been to Shenzen and seen how these companies work. It makes 0 difference if you're ordering from A B or C or even the company name is on the Ali store or not.

FWIW it's called Yonghui 3C Store: https://www.aliexpress.com/store/5728115?spm=a2g0o.store_pc_home.pcShopHead_959923565.0

[eternal rose]

I'll wait to see if it came with both OS. That's something else he said these would not come with. Idk what to believe anymore 😕 lol

[stuck wasp]

not really that big of a deal. You can pull the BSP android kernel and DTB from the android image and plug into a BSP based userspace with minimal effort

Ok so I left it to charge for 30mins and now it's shorting my mulit-meter / not powering at all... not a great sign. The Powkiddy did this too the first day I had it, my theory it's something to do with calibration on the Battery charger.

Well I guess that means you get a tear down 😉

Odd - speakers are rear firing

wifi aerial is seperate using an IPEX and mounted to rear case

some sheilding over the battery to seperate it

several potential uart tx/rx pads. But not silk screened on the rear of the board... anoying

battery is double sided pad taped down, with something with the binding force of an atomic nuculeus ... grr

Both trigger are just microswitches, albeit with springs. I was hoping they would actuallyh be hall triggers NVM

oh interesting ... not just tape but plastic shims with eyelets into the pcb

gah still no uart silkscreen

no rumble ;-/

I think these are most likely tx/rx and GND - Given the other throughholes and pads don't appear to have circuit traces to them

[prime pumice]

4 ram chips?! hahahhahahahha

[proven python]

I just bought the cube :x e6 plus will be for next month.

[stuck wasp]

sticks, dpad/buttons are all nice easy to mod membranes btw

for people who care about such things

[prime pumice]

confirmed 512MB DDR3

[stuck wasp]

yup two on front and two on back under the battery foamies

The touch panel chip is on the flexPCB itself en-route

I see why there is screen creak too. There is a plastic moulding seperating the screen from the front of the PCB. Great for cooling/airflow... but the plastic will allow play in the screen beezel and that's the creakyness..

So... still DOA for me after battery plug unplug at this point

[hollow crag]

https://tenor.com/view/the-simpsons-krusty-the-clown-wth-what-the-hell-was-that-confused-gif-4720874

[elfin nimbus]

I'm assuming that it doesn't have the same mounting as the x55 ddr4 ram? 🤔

[prime pumice]

x55 has 1x8GB LPDDR4

well, haha, stock is 1x2GB

[stuck wasp]

more pcb photos:

[mint ember]

Ordered there as well👍

[stuck wasp]

i'll let you know how much of a fight they put up when I try and DOA/RMA it

that's generally the most Bullshit experience with anything Ali related

Despite the fact that it's the local Consumer Gurantees law's that apply

[prime pumice]

512MB x 4 by the way

[stuck wasp]

I doubt DDR3 vs DDR4 makes one iota of difference for arm8

We used to use ECC for hardened network appliances, but when DDR4 controllers on the arms became available we tested it and their is bottleneck in the Bus that means you don't really notice any difference between the two. IIRC it's probably easier to get DDR3 reference timings for the rockchips that work vs DDR4 so there is that

[elfin nimbus]

Yeah, rockchip also runs the ddr4 on rk3566 at ddr3 speeds. But full ddr4 speeds on rk3568.

[stuck wasp]

So am pretty sure the fuse is blown in this thing. Am trying to ID if their is an easy to bypass fuse near the USB-C port. This component looks likely (Red Lettered JL) but haven't been able to confirm by component lookup. I could also be an inductor, but before I go taking it apart again and probing is anyone familar/can say for sure if this is actually a fuse or not?

Possibly it's a type of Inudctor i'm not familar with, but looks more like a fuse based on the feet cutouts to me

My USB Multimeter shorts whenever the DC port is plugged with even minimal contact; so am pretty sure it's a short very close to the start of the circuit

[sacred valve]

what problem you meet

tell me

let me answer you

[stuck wasp]

Item arrived, packed well. Unpacked; turned on once, noticed less than 10% battery. Plugged in to charge for a little under 1 hour. Returned to unit and it had turned itself off. Would not repower when I tried holding power for 30seconds or more. Tested with my USB Multimeter (FNB58) which I use for testing electronics. Using cable supplied or several other USB A-C charge only cables no power is being transmitted to the unit and the Multimeter shorts whenever the unit is plugged. I tried several further diagnostic steps, including disconnecting the internal battery. Unit will not power under any circumstance.

Continuity test over that component was OK. So it's something else. The battery voltage was reading 3.87V so it has charge enough that the board should power from battery even in the USB-C socket was shorting. So it's something deeper / maybe a cap somewhere. I've given up at this point and filed an DOA RMA with the vendor

[candid ridge]

@stuck wasp try to connect the usb cable on DC port, hold down vol + button and insert usb cable into PC and see if is recognised in loader mode

[stuck wasp]

Yeah tried that the first time around

There is no life whatsoever

The initial battery balance is something I am familar with; and I left the device alone for 3 hours trickle charging from a 'dumb' 1.5A Wall port. The fact I get no rkdevelop interface when plugged into a USB2 port over a known good data cable tells me something has gone pop

I left it overnight unplugged and will try one more time this morning to let it trickle charge

The RGB30 I received did something similar with battery balance ; but that always at least was able to enter rkdevelop mode and didn't go into completely dead mode for more than 1hr or so, disconning the battery always let it boot when battery was disconnected and power supplied over it's USB/DC port

The battery seems fine I measured Voltage via probes to it's +/- pins and it's sitting around 3.85V which should be fine to power the unit at that level if it's a 4.2V cell; which makes me think something else is the issue. Short somewhere/LDO/Resetable fuse that hasn't reset etc.

possibly just an errant solder blob/circuit trace that wasn't good and is bleeding into something it shouldn't

If I were designing these I would use a completely seperate USB-C PD daughter board to supply power given how iffy the PMIC's seem to be that get paired with the rockchips. This has been hacked as a hardware mod by several others to fix issues with the RGB30 and other rk3566 devices.

[stuck wasp]

Ok I unpacked it again this morning and gave it 5hrs plugged in; still no juice. Likewise still nothing when trying to access to the rockchip debug mode. Not seeing anything enumerating on the USB Bus at all.

[proven python]

It works on mine but I've never ever used it

[steel falcon]

it seems like a lot of message were deleted 😛

[proven python]

There was a post above mine that asked why his discount code is not working but the image also says it can only be used once.

[dense copper]

Vote Booster: Vote now for a 10% boost. https://arcane.bot/vote

[sacred valve]

i am still here

sorry i dont know the rule

[eternal rose]

Still no discount codes?

[candid ridge]

the code was posted, but it was banned and all the chats deleted. go to my review video from YT and try to use that code from there 😉

[eternal rose]

After all the waiting $4 don't seem worth it when I could've got it from another seller at $60 lol. I'll just wait till next month at this point.

[prime pumice]

ok, so @candid ridge was able to provide me with a linux os that boots from SD. This has seemingly also fixed the halo effect that would appear on my screen! The analogs and everything check out, the wifi seems stable. Everything works much better. Now my only two gripes with this handheld are the slightly mushy buttons and creaky screen!

[barren thistle]

GameMT is unbanned again, the E6 Plus was getting posted around the marketplace and the mods removed

Got the confusion cleared up

[steel falcon]

Yeah, the huge coupon was in fact $4... Lower than default Choice day coupon 🤦🏻

[proven python]

it just released, don't these systems lower the price -after- some time? cuteliving store sells things really cheap sometimes, oh the monthly aliexpress discounts help but that's aliexpress

[stuck wasp]

Onto day 3 of trying to convince my seller that I indeed have a Faulty DOA arrival....

[river zenith]

Our E6plus will not participate in any ALIEXPRESS activities, so it is best to buy it now with coupons. Our products will not be released to cuteliving store

The stores on ALIEXPRESS are all our sales stores. We plan to only participate in the ALIEXPRESS event on 828

[proven python]

Darn. Good luck, man

[limpid monolith]

"Clearly, since this is a great product, I understand that you don't want everyone to be able to afford it. Only the best can have the right to use the long-awaited E6 plus. To do so, pay our price, or suffer in silence."
As an E6 user and technology enthusiast, I expected at least a $10 discount.

[proven python]

i'm about to scrape for amberelec for the E6 - does anyone know the specs/options I need? Like I know many others would have an Imgs folder in the rom folder, i forgot how I did mine >.>

[wheat wagon]

using skraper or the built in scraper?

[proven python]

skraper xD basically I need to know where the images should go, if there's any size it should be in, etc

[wheat wagon]

They could basically go anywhere as long as it's set on the gamelist.xml

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RBQuFBbRsXs You can follow this for ArkOS, Chaos, Amberelec,Jelos, Rocnknix. NostixOS and KOLOS.

[proven python]

Does anyone know why my E6 can't see my games D:

I put it in the micro sd but when I go to the in device explorer, I can't see it. This is with cHaos

[torn nacelle]

That frosted purple looks so good

[mint ember]

I know that it looks good, but ordered myself classic black one

[torn nacelle]

my pocket s arrived at the same time so i have not dove deep into the e6 plus yet

[steel falcon]

I will not buy it by now... Too expensive for a RK3566

[mint ember]

Got it on sale cheaper than x55 :))

[steel falcon]

I already have a RG353V and in Brazil we have a tax issue over 50$, so, I'm not buying by now, maybe later

[mint ember]

Yes, I know that Brazilians prefer to buy consoles cheaper than 50$, because of crazy taxes.

[steel falcon]

https://tenor.com/view/taxi-gif-4714235

[steel falcon]

The final price is like 2,5x TrimUI, and Allwinner processor with Vulkan runs PSP better 😛

[stuck wasp]

yes; but 5ghz wifi lacking on the trimui makes it a non-starter for at least a lot of people including me

[mint ember]

Lots of people confirmed that moonlight working fine on Trimui even without 5ghz wifi

[steel falcon]

Not a must have for me

[stuck wasp]

If you use moonlight it makes a huge different and IMNSHO the X55/this formfactor is ripe for sunshine/moonlight

does trimui support h265 decode in it's GPU IP block implementation?

[mint ember]

Yes, it is H265 MP/L5.2 4k@30fps 100Mbps

[stuck wasp]

only 30fps boo

I can do 120fps on my rg353m (in fact it's the only way you're getting 120fps out of that thing )

Mind you if it doesn't do 60fps at 720p then something else is wrong

[wheat wagon]

Does vulkan on the trimui work properly now?

[proven python]

i just reflashed chaos woow this is way better than the early days

thanks so much @candid ridge

[mint ember]

H.264 BP/MP/HP Level5.1 1080p@60fps 60Mbps is not enough? 🤔

[stuck wasp]

h264 is terrible

h265 improves decode latency considerably and you don't get the washed out colours of h264 at low bitrates

you can only really do 15-20mbit reliably to the PCI bus on these soc's

why 5ghz is a must have with 2.4 being so crowded it's too prone to drop outs and interference 5ghz is generally better but it's also getting crowded

I use av1 for my deck but the rk3566 doesn't do av1 (the 3588 does, even with mainline/opensource graphics stack)

[mint ember]

But then how all streaming on 2.4ghz without any issues and washouts?

Is it on 264 or 265??

Or it's on something else? 🤔

[mint ember]

For av it's
AVS/AVS+ 1080p@60fps 30Mbps

[torn nacelle]

Video yet?

[torn nacelle]

What does this mean? Serial console enabled

[mint ember]

No gaps/playstore?

[proven python]

video when 😄

[eternal rose]

With coupons it could possibly be around $55 or less if u got vip coupons 🤔

Obviously this is not from the original seller 🤣

[torn nacelle]

https://youtu.be/m6z3y3537kQ

[barren thistle]

Preparing a video on the e6 plus, we should be seeing a price drop shortly by the way, we'll also have a discount code from the maker, there's some cool stuff to love with it, still has cheaper janky buttons like e6, but awesome to have android with a touchscreen on a 3566.

More info on the way.

[prime pumice]

are you using Hack Around's Linux and android builds?

at least the linux one, it changes the whole experience

[barren thistle]

I'd be interested to find out! Are there downloads available? My android build came defaulted to Chinese, but otherwise it has been solid, Android 11

@river zenith which software is on my unit?

[prime pumice]

if it's android 11 then I think that's the 64-bit build

[barren thistle]

I also have the battery bug in Linux, so I have to keep charge above 10% to get into android I believe

[river zenith]

Android 11 64bit

[river zenith]

we add a new version without game card now! who can add game by yourself can order that version .

[barren thistle]

Saves some money, that's good

[serene bloom]

@river zenith Is that your shopee shop? Can you add e6 plus on shopee?

[river zenith]

Yes. It is my shop##

[serene bloom]

Can you add e6 plus on shopee? So we can buy it from vietnam without tax 😄

[river zenith]

Vietnam cannot sell this products

Because they limit the price only 1000000

[barren thistle]

Here's our affiliate link for the official listing, @ember laurel and I will be sharing our hands-on thoughts on the podcast tomorrow

https://rh-go.link/E6_Plus ($65 after coupon code: GAMEMTRETRO)

[serene bloom]

oh, i see anbernic store can sell items > 3.000.000 @@

[barren thistle]

I've been testing it for about 5 days, some cool things mixed with some jank

[barren thistle]

Summer Sale starts on Ali tomorrow as well

[prime pumice]

summertime and the livin's easy.....

[river zenith]

you cannot order it from aliexpress?

[serene bloom]

yeah, i don't have visa card, and i heard that the tax is high, i just want to save some money 😄

[river zenith]

I don’t dare to sell products that are too expensive on SHOPEE because there are too many customers who choose to pay cash on delivery but are unwilling to pay after the package arrives.

[proven python]

The GameMT store coupon and Aliexpress coupon stacked up

[undone zealot]

Can anyone help me in my E6 ?

My E6 files get corrupted again and again

If anyone knows the solution or is suffering from this problem Please DM me

[river zenith]

wow why you have this big coupon

[proven python]

It's the Aliexpress summer Sale coupon

[river zenith]

wow so good

[candid lynx]

I must avoid Aliexpress during the sale or my wallet is going to kill me

[torn nacelle]

How about an update on this looks like somebody has a retail box or an early engineering box unit

[wheat wagon]

Jellymini 😮

[river zenith]

E5

COMING SOON

but this is only support to ps1

not linux system

we plan to make E5 PLUS version with 3566 and dual system (Linux & ANDROID)

[old dome]

i have so many questions whose obvious answers will contradict with each other

[torn nacelle]

sinyorksu what is screen resolution of e5 jelly mini?

[steel falcon]

well, at least the crazy taxes here protect us from this

[river zenith]

1280 750

[torn nacelle]

Oh that's nice a 5-in 720p screen yeah I think this is going to be pretty cool although the plus sounds even better. Would be nice if you could bump that up to a g99 instead of 3566 on the plus

[ancient hull]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=95fqCukMuxk

[wheat wagon]

interesting. even the solid purple has glitters 😮

[prime pumice]

https://tenor.com/view/magic-gif-26166638

[dense copper]

@migas121's avatar

[stray crater]

Enjoyed the live stream, I'm still looking forward to purchasing the device!

[river zenith]

it be default the OS is on power saver and and if you open the performance mode,. on performance will run a lot of games almost at full speed. dreamcast will run at full speed
This is why in the live stream game‘display has problems

Our new firmware will support the use of Google Play.

We also updated the Linux version, which will be more stable. And we also included a lot of games.

[mint ember]

Link to mentioned stream?

[stray crater]

WOW GREAT TO HEAR! Getting more and more excited

[stray crater]

https://www.youtube.com/live/JTKzpscGrdc?si=eY-hHaAr9mI1jd2a

[stray crater]

Will you be able to adjust the light color?

Or brightness?

[candid ridge]

if you talking about the LEDs, then no for both questions

[river zenith]

you can follow this video to turn the light off

[proven python]

On chaos how do you access the ppsspp menu

[stray crater]

What color do you guys think is good and why?

[proven python]

I like the transparent purple only because I haven't seen that before. if I get another one, I'd probably get the white with red buttons.

Anyways, on PPSSPP it doesn't show the menu with the M button, or select start or L3+R3 idk what's up

[wheat wagon]

Doesn't matter everything is glittery

[candid ridge]

on witch OS?

[stray crater]

True lolol

[stray crater]

Is this on the plus version or the non plus version

[river zenith]

on ppsspp you need press L3 L4

to go the menu

[eternal rose]

I appreciate you, thank you for the quick shipping 🙏🏼 @river zenith can't wait to get this!!

[river zenith]

ok thank you

[mint ember]

Personally choosed black 🤓 expecting to get it next week

[proven python]

for the plus. I pick black for the original e6 because it looks not cheap lol

ty it's in the original e6, chaos. Idk why the l3 r3 isn't working so I edited it on ppsspp for L2 >.>

[stray crater]

How does the stick and buttons feel? Does stick have stick drifting?

And how does the screen feel

[river zenith]

Our screens are probably the best among all the handheld game consoles. (Of course, only Chinese brands are allowed.) The problem of Linux power display in our game consoles is because our resolution is 1280*720, which is too high, making some Linux system software incompatible.

[amber coral]

@river zenith, dear friend , is it possible to provide an update or rom or clean android image of the e6, so we can choose which emulators and app?🥹 🥹

[stray crater]

https://youtu.be/V8sxWOdbMK8?si=LrKHUCj2yaR55GYJ

Love to see it! Happy to see it getting its recognition!

[stuck wasp]

Finally got my refund for my DOA ; now the question - do I bother to order another or not ...

[proven python]

Woow random article https://www.notebookcheck.net/GameMT-E6-Plus-New-retro-gaming-handheld-released-as-ASUS-ROG-Ally-lookalike-for-under-100.847876.0.html

[river zenith]

wow

[wide sphinx]

Anyone knows where to get the img file of the firmware for the e6 plus? I want to flash it in other SD card

[candid ridge]

here keep in mind it has the issue with the battery so is showing 0% when this happens you cannot boot into android until you unplug the battery from the board

[wide sphinx]

Thank you @candid ridge and you did a great job with the OS

[river zenith]

YES THANKS FOR @candid ridge

[candid ridge]

if you still have the device, try to repair it

[proven python]

RetroSpecd just posted

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O7CbpXJlxH8

Has anyone used Gamma Lite yet? The E6 Plus reminded me that that's a thing

[torn nacelle]

the Linux build im running now is awesome. like makes me not even remember android

[wheat wagon]

If the 353 image works for this then the gamma lite for 353 should also work

Oh but you need android

[torn nacelle]

yeah man dual boot will always be the best for these handhelds

[wheat wagon]

Switch and PS Vita Emulation works in android

#1168386197605855313 message

[stuck wasp]

Well it's not taking voltage from the battery or from the USB - whatever is blown without schematics is going to be a PITA to find

If I actually had free time and a will, I would be tempted to try and drill out the PCB and attach to an rk3588 CM board

But it would probably be easier to gut out a DS4 clone controller tbh

They used a couple of not particularily standard flex connectors, and I don't fancy having to microsolder in order to get i.e the MIPI screen attached

[candid ridge]

If you have an adjustable buck converter, you can set 0.8v with 3A and inject on 5v dc and see what gets hot, maybe is an capacitor somewhere

[stuck wasp]

It's really just ewaste ; I might be able to salvage the battery for a project at some point

I did 4.2V directly from a bench power supply to the bat +/- as a test and still no luck

my guess... if I had one is that there is a ptt fuse in the PMU that got tripped when I first charged it and hasn't reset

[candid ridge]

The voltage is too high, if a short is somewhere it will enter in protection, low voltage high amperage will just “light” the blow component

[stuck wasp]

There are too many unlabbled SMU components that I couldn't find reference sheets on when I starting basic multimetre continuity trace

My USB-PD multimetre trips as soon as voltage is applied when it's inline

If it was something basic like a solder blob on the USB-C that coulld cause it... but the fact that a charged battery / directly powering via battery circuit also doesn't make with the working...

The only thing I can think of given the unit was working for the first 10 mins I had it, and did start taking a charge initially was that it was drawing 11W off the charger which is quite high compared to my other rk3566 units which use the same RK PMU

I left it for 1hr before checking it again after a work call, and it had turned itself off never to return.

battery was at 10% when I started charging it

no idea how long after I plugged it in that it owned itself

[candid ridge]

it was good to find a solution to fix it, because I am still waiting for someone else to help with the CFW for this

[novel dust]

What’s the best color for the E6 Plus

and why is purple with Shrek buttons

[wheat wagon]

https://tenor.com/view/かみ太-gif-10053065094960850647

[stray crater]

Joy stick calibration doesn't work on Android?

[stray crater]

Did the play store bug get fixed from any update?

[river zenith]

not

we will remove this in the machine

Because Google Play and YouTube require authorization before use, we cannot obtain authorization, so we will delete this.

[stray crater]

So google store is going to get removed?

[wheat wagon]

yea just use aurora store

[stray crater]

:((

[mint ember]

No problem, it's better to have debloated fw without Google services to save on memory, all apk's can be sideloaded anyway.

[old dome]

Some folks would rather they had the knowledge that Google services could be used on their Android things and THEN remove them on their own

Like

It's the same with certain PC bloatware. They would never use it and would use any means to remove it, but they would not allow it to be unavailable in new units because that would only mean shadier things.

[river zenith]

rename the apk. remove the ".1"

download it in the e6 plus

and it can work

[stray crater]

Wow this is so useful, anymore useful ones?

[dense idol]

Found this on my local FB Marketplace.... 🤔

[river zenith]

200 dollars?

[wheat wagon]

Steam deck

[proven python]

There's a non zero chance the seller thinks this is really a Steam Deck

[dense idol]

"My son passed away in an accident and I can't look at this anymore and just want it gone"

[cursive star]

Performance vs trimui smart pro?

On the e6 Plus

[acoustic gulch]

3566 should be better at n64, SP is better at PSP

[cursive star]

given it runs android, my kid wants to play roblox on one. is that gonna work well?

[acoustic gulch]

terraria doesn't run that well on 3566, & im pretty sure roblox is online & needs the google play cert.

[mint ember]

For roblox better to buy android tablet+flexible controller, for example like on picture:

This one is IPEGA PG-9083S

[cursive star]

looking for a small all in one solution that doesnt break the bank. she doesnt like my old phone and gamesir its too big

[steel falcon]

I did something like this but with a Phone instead

[cursive star]

nice gamesir

i have the USB C version. its a shame they never released a updated firmware for the iphone 15 though

[mint ember]

It's the same:

[cursive star]

yeah except mines the D pad version. its a really decent controller

[stray crater]

Can anyshare share any game play on the E6 plus?

Want to see it more in action, I've watched all the YouTube videos

[cunning onyx]

i have been quite happy with bsp-d8 and a tablet combo

[stray crater]

Any good website to download APK for emualtor?

[mint ember]

Google for aurora store, it's playstore replacement. And get emulators apk there

[torn nacelle]

Has anyone tried flashing any custom Android builds? Like I was able to put a custom build on my Game Force Ace. Just wondering if this is possible on this device

[frank minnow]

I think @candid ridge is preparing a video to install android 64bit but I'm not sure

[candid ridge]

yes. is on my list. I am working also on linux side as well to add more.

[frank minnow]

thank you, that’s good to know

[candid ridge]

also android 13 from x55 should work with some small changes. but here I think @elfin nimbus can help

[stray crater]

Omg this is amazing! Thank you very much

[elfin nimbus]

I'm waiting for a dev unit. I think @river zenith is supposed to be sending me one?

[prime pumice]

hope you get one soon Notime2d8, the android build could use some work still

[wheat wagon]

That one's for the old e6 right?

[cursive star]

I missed out on the Ali sale so waiting for the next one fo get a e6 plus

Anyone know when the next sale is?

[frank minnow]

I don't know if it's for the old or new E6, you have to ask hackaround which model is concerned

[candid ridge]

yes. for both

some early models of E6 Plus they have android 32 bit with the classic launcher

[wheat wagon]

How do you like yours against your rgb10max3?

[proven python]

My E6 Plus isn't around yet but I like the rgb10max3 better than the E6 because the E6 feels cheap >.>

[eternal rose]

Is there a different version of chaos for e6+? I tried the 20240509 version with new screen and it just boots into android

[candid ridge]

That is only for normal E6. I have also the one for E6plus but wait few days to upload the new version with the battery fixed

[eternal rose]

Thank you!

[pure fossil]

Does anyone know how to get into Android with the normal non plus version? I have the second non plus model with kaos. Thank you

[wheat wagon]

normal e6 android is 32bit not much you can do with it. they might be releasing 64bit soon though

[river zenith]

the new console 030S

both are RK3326

which one you will choosee

E6 is more cheaper

[wheat wagon]

ooooh so the O30S is from you?

[river zenith]

no

I just bought one to compare

[wheat wagon]

oh ok. you just got them to compare. What os does it come with?

[river zenith]

ARK0S2.0

[wheat wagon]

so it's an RG351

[river zenith]

i think it is so bad

bad screen

[wheat wagon]

The plastic looks bad ngl haha

[old dome]

oh-thirty-ess?

[wheat wagon]

when

[reef cedar]

E6 plus new micro sd insert but its not mount new micro sd need some advice for fix

[prime pumice]

did you format as Fat32?

[reef cedar]

yes

[cursive star]

this or solid black/white

[eternal rose]

Can honestly say the e6 has my favorite design out of many handhelds. Just so big but lite weight. Def my new favorite!

[wheat wagon]

How about the build of the three? I assume best build is still tsp?

[eternal rose]

Correct! Tsp still in the lead on that one!

Pk last lol

[stray crater]

How's the screen quality compared to TSP?

And speaker?

[steel falcon]

But E6 has better analogs, way better

[hushed mantle]

🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

[mint ember]

Can see there is updated version of Jelos for E6 Plus, with fixed battery:

https://github.com/tech4bot/jelos/releases/tag/20240625

[candid ridge]

yes. I upload it today and I forgot to put a message here. the fix for battery came from engineers of GameMT

[mint ember]

No problem, thank you for release with battery fix!

Is it jelos or rocknix, to make it clear?

[candid ridge]

jelos with BSP kernel 4.19

[proven python]

Pls pin tyy

[mint ember]

Already pinned it:)

[mint ember]

Why it was preference to choose jelos instead of rocknix for E6 Plus? Is it still possible to run on it rocknix with universal 3566 image? Thanks

[candid ridge]

Because I used x55 image as I made one custom from mine.

[mint ember]

Is it possible to do the same with custom android image for x55?

Looks like changing fingerprint of device, could bypass issue with not certified device to start Google playstore

[candid ridge]

If someone adds the panel to mainline then you should be able to use rocknix. But it will not work out of the box. It requires some changes to joystick driver

[candid ridge]

No, because of the analog buttons

[mint ember]

Thanks to make it clear 👌

[candid ridge]

But as soon as notime2d8 gets the dev unit, he can use the driver from jelos to make android 13

[mint ember]

Checking it now, unfortunately there is issue with file manager:

[candid ridge]

I know about it but I didn’t found any solution yet

[proven python]

woo just got mine 🙂 How do these Android/Linux handhelds work? How do you get to the Android?

it's a little bit heavier than the E6. I got mine from the GameMT store 👍

[fringe wren]

@candid ridge thanks for your update. now the battery gauge works perfectly. but shutdown won't work this time. after 2 failure message fade out, the device is still on.

[eternal rose]

Just pull out the sd card and booot up, it should boot up to android

[mint ember]

For me it shuts down without any of issues, but it was first install with this version with battery fix.

[candid ridge]

Same, I never encounter this issue. I suspect you have a bad SD card/s. @fringe wren are you using stock sd cards?

[fringe wren]

new Sandisk Ultra 32GB flashed with USBIT. I'll try again with another sd and flashing app.

[candid ridge]

and for ROMs you are using stock?

[fringe wren]

Thank you. everything solved. now shutdown works very well. I am not sure but the battery cable reconnecting seems to be the main key.

[candid ridge]

if you device came with GameMT linux as well, then, yes it needs to be unplug when you switch to use cHAos

[fringe wren]

I've found the battery level showed the same as Androids correctly when I upgraded, so I thought there was no need to unplug the cable. 😢

[candid ridge]

if you only had Android, then no it was not necessary to unplug the battery

[fringe wren]

yeah but i need both. the value of this device has been increased thanks to you 🙂

[barren thistle]

Thanks for the first look @lunar atlas ! I'll keep this pin updated with E6 Plus content from RH.

https://retrohandhelds.gg/gamemt-e6-plus-first-look/

[river zenith]

thank you for your first look

about the google play issue we will try to solve it

[lunar atlas]

That’s good to hear.

[river zenith]

E6 and E6 PLUS

[stray crater]

Any eta for the next update?

[cursive star]

I know it doesn’t have analog triggers

But how’s xcloud and other cloud gaming on this?

Moonlight etc

[mint ember]

For plus, we can expect for custom android from @elfin nimbus , but not sure for ETA

[mint ember]

https://youtu.be/2ZLkCNi4kIE

[cursive star]

its an assumption i already had, but are the LED's on the E6 handhelds only white?

ive not seen anyone actually confirm my suspicions lol

i ordered the purple and have an idea regarding adding color to them if so (not RGB but a different solid colour)

[mint ember]

Yes, leds on E6 are only in white

[rocky topaz]

I know it’s NGE…but can’t help but think of oldschool Batman Joker.

[mint ember]

https://youtu.be/hv_SP6BN-Qg

[river zenith]

why not so many friend talk about E6 PLUS here

Why i feel that E6 is more popular than E6PLUS?

[humble panther]

In my opinion:
It's actually a very promising console, and for the price, it's a killer of affordable retro consoles.
As far as I can understand, people are showing cautious interest as it seems too good to be true, plus there are still some rough edges.
As soon as the console has a finalized Android, I can assure you people will rush to get the E6 Plus off the shelves of stores

[river zenith]

Now our Linux version of E6PLUS is very good, thanks to hackAround's work.
@Hack Around
We are working on some very minor issues. And we will release our latest version online soon.
Because I don't know much about Google Drive, and we can't even log in in China.
So what suggestions do you have so that we can release our updated versions online at any time?
If you have any suggestions, please let me know, our GAMEMT team will share our progress and updated versions at any time.
Now we have a lot of updates, but they are not released online because we don't know what is the best way. So we need your suggestions and help.

[river zenith]

yeah we are trying to do the best

[cursive star]

GitHub?

Many other devices use GitHub to share firmware files for devices.

[mint ember]

🙃

[sour sundial]

now thats more what i expected, still no graphical issues tho thats pretty nice

[mint ember]

Simalar to x55 🙂

With vulkan it's much more better

[river zenith]

When entering different emulators, you may need to switch to different game kernels to achieve the best game performance.

Some video bloggers don’t seem to know how to switch the game core, so when they are showing the game, the game has serious delays and freezes.

[mint ember]

Actually prefer to use standalone emulators, instead of Retroarch cores, if standalone are available 🙂

[cursive star]

wait this is ps2?

TAZ wanted?

I wonder how CD based ps2 games that are more basic will run like GT-R Touring. etc along with easier games to emulate

[mint ember]

Yes, it is

[proven python]

I think we are waiting when the software is more mature. It is exciting to see @mint ember show what the device can do though.

[fringe wren]

There is a serious slowdown in 30fps games such as Crisis Core, Dracula X etc. It can be solved easily by 'render duplicate frames to 60Hz' off, but the default setting is on so that some guys might misunderstand it's the defect of device. but i still feel something strange because other 3566 devices (i've tested it with x55,rgb30,rgb10max3,353v) show same performance regardless of that option on/off. it's just only for ppsspp SA on linux. it works perfect under any option on Android.

[cursive star]

https://youtu.be/28PsT15XqJY?si=1_X4z09KLOgleljX

Same SOC as e6 Plus

So theoretically it should be possible to run batocera with n the e6 plus right?

[candid lynx]

indeed they have builds for anbernic 353 line (3566 as well). I tried it only briefly, I gave up right away as I could not get wifi working on my 353vs

[candid ridge]

without recompiling batocera, no. you need to add the panel and add a custom driver for the controls as you have some analog buttons

[wheat wagon]

the rg353 builds for batocera isn't that stable yet

[steel falcon]

Oh I have this one, performance sucks

[stray crater]

What you do guys think about the heating issue, I think it gets pretty warm especially the right side of the screen

Also I got the device so if anyone has any questions, I'll do my best to answer them

[paper cloak]

I have questions about Android:

1. What codecs are supported by hardware?
   You can view it using APK codecinfo (https://apkpure.com/ru/codec-info/com.parseus.codecinfo/downloading)

2. How Doom3 APK works (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.id.doom3bfg&hl=ru)

3. Test results for Geekbench 5.6, Antutu

4. Does HDMI work in Android, if so, is there an input lag?

5. Please test the operation of the sticks (https://hardwaretester.com/gamepad) or https://apkpure.com/ru/gamepad-tester/ru.elron.gamepadtester
   When testing, check if there is any sticking on the axes with the stick in the middle position.

6. WiFi speed

Example codec info for HEVC:

[paper cloak]

Yes you are right. Many bloggers (like other people who buy your console) do not know how to switch cores correctly.
They mistakenly believe that they are purchasing a ready-to-use device with a set of proven games, where all games already have the necessary settings.

Modern consumer society is designed in such a way that people buy a car without having the skills to adjust the ignition timing. They just sit down, press a button and go about their business.
When they buy a phone, they start using it right away, but they are so stupid that they don’t know all the nuances of how LTE works and the OS that is installed on the phone.

I agree with you that your device is ideal, it’s just that stupid users don’t know how to use it.

I think in the description of the devices you need to indicate that you are not selling a ready-to-use product, but a semi-finished product for the use of which you need to have certain qualifications in computer science.

[river zenith]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pf4rkILs7uE

I don't think so.
I believe everyone is smart, but they just don't understand some operations.
So what we have to do later is to put different operation methods online and make some operation videos.
This is why I asked everyone where we can share our files or videos.

[paper cloak]

"know how to switch the game core"
Do I understand correctly that you know which games need which cores for better performance?
Could you share this information?

I bought this product and I am ashamed that I do not know such basic things. Probably this is public information that everyone knows? Apart from a couple of stupid bloggers who don't test your device properly?

[river zenith]

Maybe my translation software is not very good, so it may cause grammatical errors, making you feel that I am complaining or something. If this makes you feel angry, then I apologize for it.

I am here just to help all the friends understand the product better. I have watched too many videos and some people actually do not know how to switch the core, so I made such remarks.

[paper cloak]

This is a very good video.
If the product worked like this out of the box it would be a better buy.

Please make instructions on how to get the same result as shown in the video on a new console.

[mint ember]

Appreciate your help and support for community here, and for sharing firmware updates. It's really important for devices like this, to have feedback and communication from device representatives 🤝👍

[rocky topaz]

The new shell styles looking a bit gaudy…is there no plain black for plus model?

[cursive star]

yeah i have the same thought. plain opaque black, white with black buttons would be awesome. the red didn't look too bad either.

i mean i went for the purple transparent in the end because it looks the best with the LED's and on my trimui im not a fan of the dmg buttons

or white with Grey buttons would be awesome

[paper cloak]

Android?

[steel falcon]

if you want an emulation device "ready to use", maybe emulation is not for you

[paper cloak]

I disagree, I have watched reviews of many devices R40S, TRIMUI Smart Pro, R36S, RG-35XX Plus.
Not one of them froze during unpacking and games did not slow down on them. And all menu items worked.

Watch these 2 videos:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O7CbpXJlxH8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I8kuzVOygSs

You can say that these bloggers are stupid since everything freezes so much for them, but no, the same blogger has a review of TRIMUI Smart Pro, RG-35XX Plus
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BUCufh7zak8

I agree that emulation is a complex topic.
But you will agree that quite a lot of devices in this price category do not have such problems, you can safely buy them and play games.

https://youtu.be/O7CbpXJlxH8?t=812
Here a person sees YouTube and Google Play shortcuts, tries to launch them and gets an error. Is this also a problem with emulators?

And here: https://youtu.be/O7CbpXJlxH8?t=834
it runs the built-in stick calibration program and that doesn't work either. You also say that it’s all about emulation?

Moreover, all the software that is there is completely on default settings. No one even tried to configure emulators for the console hardware before releasing the device.

I don’t think that this approach to the device’s output is worthy of you protecting it.

[wheat wagon]

Maybe pre-setup your devices then set to kiosk mode “power users” will know how to exit that if they want to. That way people who want to get a pick and play device wouldn’t worry on setting things up.

On the linux side Amberelec/Rocknix are both capable of preconfigurations so given a little bit of time it can be polished. TrimUI preconfigs on the smart pro is a nice guideline

So when red? 🤔🤣

[steel falcon]

games not slow down on r36s? oh come on, it comes with a very outdated version of arkos and everyday a lot of people complaining it comes not even working with these new panels
my trimui smart pro came without SD card and I had to figure out all the config. Even the vulkan must be enabled manually inside PPSSPP

[sour sundial]

Yeah i think the price is currently too high to excuse those issues, the r36s is ok because its half the price and has good CFW.

Maybe once these "updates" have been released and the software is better, or maybe 10-15$ less and the issues become more excusable

[steel falcon]

I see more like a limitation of RK3566 than a real issue

[paper cloak]

Can someone share an image of the card that comes with the kit?
I ordered the device without a card, and while it is on its way I would like to prepare a card with games, but I don’t know what directory structure is used...

[sour sundial]

rk3566 is fine, no issues with it on my rgb30, sure theres more powerfull cpus but that increases the device cost

maybe for an e7 or something

[paper cloak]

I completely agree, I don’t know what other chip will be more powerful at the same (or comparable) cost of the device.
Taking into account the presence of 2GB RAM, good IPS, touchscreen support.

If you look at what we have in the <=$100 category, then this is SoC
Allwinner A133 Plus
Allwinner H700
MediaTek MT6580A
RockChip RK3326
RockChip RK3566
UNISOC Tiger T310

And from this list, only the T310 will be slightly more powerful than the 3566. At the same time, with this chip, I can only remember the old Retroid Pocket 2+, it is much simpler in other details, and at the same time costs more (if you can buy it at all).

All others are either weaker or equal (Allwinner H700).

Unfortunately, the next most powerful chip (UNISOC Tiger T618) practically doubles the cost of the console.

Moreover, I personally don’t understand why the cost of the device rises so much when changing the chip.
Take the same Mediatek G99. If you buy it as spare parts it costs $10. But at the same time, G99 consoles start at $140 (AYANEO Pocket Micro), while all other components are +/- the same as in the E6 Plus.

[elfin nimbus]

Supporting parts, ram, storage, WiFi chip, hardware engineer, software engineer, manufacturing cost, packaging, etc....

[candid lynx]

under 100 there is the Odroid Go Ultra with s922x which blows 3566 out of water, if you can live with the odroid jank

[paper cloak]

Of course, this is all true, but all this is included in the price of the E6 Plus.

[wheat wagon]

OGU ftw been on sale forever

[candid lynx]

its not really sale anymore lol

[wheat wagon]

What is odroid jank

Double USB-A to USB-C charger is jank? That’s very smart

[candid lynx]

yes, when you need it charged from zero/very low and it suddenly refuses to charge with just C connector and you need that shitty cable just for that

very smart

[wheat wagon]

“dual pmic”

[mint ember]

https://youtu.be/kQr_emKPk5c

[paper cloak]

Looks good enough.
This is exactly what I wrote so much about here (and not only). It's a matter of customization and not that "emulators are only available for geeks."

Just imagine if all this was configured initially out of the box and was available to any buyer immediately after unpacking the device without firmware and the need to configure emulators and frontend. (ES-DE + set of emulators).

Could you test Android in some popular Android games? Like Minecraft? Doom3?

[mint ember]

I'm setting up Vita3k, dolphin and Citra MMJ for next tests, and more familiar and focused on emulation stuff than on android gaming, maybe will test something from Android games/benchmarks someday, but it's not in my priority list, sorry.

[steel falcon]

well, I have a RG353V and on android side is almost the same, no frontend, some very outdated emulators, no google, so pointing it as a E6 Plus issue is not fair, on Linux side, I know @candid ridge is doing the better he can, "unfortunately" they didn't cloned another device with ready OS like R36S

[proven python]

i honestly think the retro gaming handheld industry right now is very experimental, there are so many manufacturers (kind of lol) that's why we have stuff that are not out of the box easy. Tbf, I would likely restrict myself to corpo handhelds if that's my expectation. I mean even the bigger ones still need some tweaking to be just right. That's probably why I'm not so hard on the E6 people idk

[steel falcon]

yeah, the usual is not being optimized out of the box or at least with bad game list and scraping 😛

[mint ember]

Psp vulkan sh shattered memories, 1 x psp, no fps skip

[paper cloak]

You didn't understand me correctly.
The problem with the E6 Plus is not that it doesn't have Google services. And the fact is that there are shortcuts to non-working Google services on the desktop. And also these services operate and consume resources.
This is careless and not neat on the part of the manufacturer. To remove these shortcuts and disable non-working services, investments and engineers are not needed. You just need a little respect for yourself and the buyer 🙂

As for the frontend, I really chalk this up as a negative for the E6 Plus. Installing it and preconfiguring 8 emulators also does not require investment, but in the end it will give the user a working product. And the fact that the RG353V comes with unconfigured Android does not justify the E6 Plus.

If you think about it, YOU are the one to blame for this situation, because instead of condemning this attitude, you are protecting the sellers.

[paper cloak]

Yes, I understand what you are talking about. It's a pity that no one understands me :).
I'm not saying that a device with an emulator for $65 should be like Swith.
I'm just talking about some basic level.
Use the correct version of Android, install the ES-DE frontend, go through the emulator settings, and for some heavy, popular games, make the emulator settings.

For engineers responsible for product release, this is not difficult, right? Just a competent setup of the OS, emulators, a correct selection of games in which there will be no games that are poorly emulated on the device or in general.

How much money do you need for this?
And this will already cover 90% of all needs.

You argue as if there are only 2 options:

1. We release a device with empty Android, non-working service shortcuts, and freezing emulators in Liunx
2. Release the killer Nintendo Swith.

But that's not true, is it? Between these options there are still many others 🙂

But while buyers en masse approve the release of unfinished devices, and defend this with the phrases “what did you want for this money?” then yes, these devices will remain niche toys for geeks, because they are happy with everything 🙂

[paper cloak]

It can be seen that the game runs closer to 40 FPS than 60, but unfortunately there are no CPU/GPU load indicators.
If the emphasis is on the CPU, then maybe you can install x2 render?

[proven python]

There aren't only two options, but the industry is so experimental that it can be in flux regarding quality control. Also, it's a very optimistic assumption that money will cover 90% of needs. There's too many variables, no single standard of how to go about releasing these retro handheld games. It's basically the wild west of retro gaming right now which means even when we get amazing Anbernic, Miyoo, Retroids, we also get companies dipping their toes in the game, coming from China who are okay with these "subpar" devices.

Anyways, I don't think there's an argument but many people in these space have a realistic expectation of these new devices. I'm all for griping about what can be done better but I'm also pretty laissez-faire about how I feel about these devices lol. I'm just happy they exist and continue to improve when possible.

[paper cloak]

"Also, it's a very optimistic assumption that money will cover 90% of
You misunderstood my message at this point, read it carefully.
I mean:
"Use the correct version of Android, install the ES-DE frontend, go through the emulator settings, and for some heavy, popular games, make the emulator settings."
These are little things that cost nothing, but at the same time transfer the device from the “modify after unpacking” category to the “use after unpacking” category.
It doesn't cost money, it's not difficult, and it doesn't require special knowledge. All you need is just respect for users.
There is no need to justify this with “experiments” or the “wild west”.

This is the second day I've been talking in the retro portable console community, and I'm starting to understand why some manufacturers don't even try to make ready-to-use devices 🙂

[proven python]

Yeah but Idk if you've been reading, the parts the manufacturers use are kinda mish mash. Like they've been throwing things together experimentally, that's why using the correct version of Android, installing your preferred frontend, making things work right has been challenging.

Even Sinyorksu, as much as he tries, I don't think he understands all the parts that help things work seamlessly. That's why he's also working with Hack Around.

If you can provide the proper steps to make things work, that would be great. I don't think it's the lack of trying, it's likely the lack of knowledge or knowledge base. People are learning though.

I'm sorry you feel like you're being dismissed. I think everyone is in agreement that it would be nice if things are better but we do understand it takes time and effort.

[elfin nimbus]

Big emphasis on manufacturers. I think of my handhelds as SBC's and get surprised if they come with any software. 🤔 I would also be irritated if it came loaded with Atari, PC engine, colecoVision....

[torn nacelle]

Maybe someday somebody will have some sort of specialized fork of Android that is focused on handheld SBC gaming. Then these manufacturers can simply license that software package which can have front ends put on top of it. What we need is Google support for handheld gaming

[steel falcon]

I'm not protecting anyone, you are arriving now, I'm here discussing with these guys for months...

I understand what you are saying and maybe we come to this at some point in the future.

My point is that the flaws of E6 is kinda more general than specific of this device and that I rather have a "raw" Android experience and figure out by myself than a locked system "ready to use" like regular E6 or some SJGAM/Copreeme crap

On my experience, most part of time when chinese manufacturers make "ready to use" devices, they lock the config menus, so you can't change anything

[steel falcon]

I really appreciate the effort of Sinyorksu being here and trying to listen what we say but I don't think he understand most part of what is being discussed

[humble panther]

Enough VVi3ard!
Cards on the table, you're busted.
It doesn't work to sh*t on the E6 Plus on 4pda, so you decided to go all out here?
The console is not perfect, but I repeat: "very promising", and already at the moment a worthy option for purchase, among similar ones, perhaps even the best.
I do not know what drives you, shortsightedness, or self-interest, it does not matter.
The console (E6 Plus) has already succeeded, polishing the rough edges is going on and you with your narrow-minded rhetoric can't prevent it or derail the optimism of the growing console community.
GameMT keep up the good work!

[proven python]

I'm surprised @mint ember is playing ps2 on it.

[candid ridge]

For os write the image to a blank SD card and the put it in console and it will expand. Portmaster is in tools and you install it from there

[wheat wagon]

I'm here when you tell them that the E6 is a POS

[finite harbor]

I know this may be asking a bit much from this system but is it possible to run Diablo Immortal from it the E6 Plus that is with the default android OS?

[paper cloak]

Can someone share an image of a microSD with games, or a screenshot of the directory structure on the microSD?

[old dome]

Some "ready to use" solutions only cause more headaches when I try to tweak for my usecase. Batocera, I'm talking about you.

But still, I still think the users shouldn't have to be tweak savvy from the outset to use a device like this

Include some manuals or useful emulation tweaking tips on the device's OS maybe?

[mint ember]

It's not only about ps2, Citra with 3ds works as well 🙂

[candid ridge]

On linux when you boot it will create the folder structure automatically. The system is based on jelos so you can use rocknix website for documentation

[paper cloak]

I ordered the product without a card, after receiving the product I will need to record a video of unpacking the product and checking its functionality in one take. And so I would like to prepare a card with games in advance, even before I have the device in my hands.
I looked at the Rocknix website and there is no directory structure information.
All I found: https://rocknix.org/play/add-games/#simple-storage
"To support our storage modes ROCKNIX nests games into a directory on your games card called "roms". All games found in this path will be available in the OS."
But it seems to me that this is not enough, you still need to create directories inside.
There is also no information about covers and so on.
More precisely, there is no structured information there; of course, I can spend a day studying all sections.

If I follow these instructions, will the stock E6 Plus OS see the games and covers?
https://wiki.retrobat.org/get-started/retrobat-folder-structure

I think that I’m not the only one ordering a console without a card, and it would be convenient to have at least an empty directory structure to prepare the card while the device is on its way to the buyer.
Having a device in hand, making an archive with an empty structure is not very difficult, it will literally take up 2kb and will save time

[candid ridge]

If you ordered without a card, you have android installed and you don’t need to worry about any structure because you install any emulators you want and then manually set the location of the roms.

[paper cloak]

An 8GB card with Linux is always included.
But you can additionally order a 32 GB or more card with games.

I don’t need a card with games, I have a good 256 GB card for emulators (I used to have RPi4+) so I didn’t order a card.
But to check the device immediately upon unpacking, it would be nice to have a map already prepared.

[candid ridge]

Go one by one thru systems and each emulator has the game path, e.g. https://rocknix.org/systems/amigacd32/

[paper cloak]

Yes, but can you imagine that you need to open each system and create directories manually...?

In any case, thanks for the help.
I would also like to know the list of N64 and PSP games that the manufacturer ships with the product so that I can test them on these games.

[candid ridge]

If you want to prepare the card before you have the console, then yes. Else wait for the console and it will create the folder structure automatically

Then that is simple. Under roms folder you create two folders psp and n64 and add roms there

[paper cloak]

I just want to be able to check the console when I turn it on 🙂 But not spend half a day doing it 🙂
I understand you, thanks for your help.

[paper cloak]

Yes, I will do that, this will be enough to check.
Now I would like to find out what ROMs are included in the kit 🙂 (n64/PSP)

[candid ridge]

Which kit?

[paper cloak]

On aliexpress this console is sold in 4 versions

1. 8GB without game card: only comes with 8GB system card without games (my option)

2. 8+32GB: Built-in 10,000 games;

3. 8+64GB: Built-in 15000 games;

4. 8+128GB: Built-in 20000 games

I would like to know which n64/PSP games come with option 2.

There are owners here who have already received the console and can share information about the games that were on the 32 GB card (N64/PSP). In principle, I think you can see this in reviews. But if anyone can share, I will be grateful.

[river zenith]

IF You ordered only the 8GB card. We have installed the LINUX system. The 8GB SD card is the system card. You only need to insert your empty SD card in the other card slot. The system card will create a folder for your other game card, and then you can add the ROM to the corresponding emulator folder.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xCZu8_13wFw

[pure fossil]

Is there any news for the standard e6 version? I would like to be able to access Android

[frank minnow]

If you are talking about the normal E6 with Android blocking even in safe mode, then you can reinstall Android. I had the blocked version but I managed to access Android and uninstall the application, you can see how to do it by watching this video who help me : https://youtu.be/OJIXvlniE1A?si=dneIkn2lnl4zUzxo

[candid ridge]

Use exFAT not fat32

[paper cloak]

Have console owners already tested how sleep mode works?
How much battery does it consume in Android/Liniux sleep mode?

@solemn orbit @candid ridge
Thank you, I have already assembled a microSD to test the console. It turns out that it uses a standard structure like in RetroBat.

[stray crater]

I ordered the one with no card since I already have games on another SD card

If you need to know the performance since it's a RK3566 chip, looking up performance with the same chip might help for N64 or psp!

For sleep mode I found around 6-8% of battery dropping over night

[paper cloak]

Yes, I have already read the Powkiddy x55 tests and here above from
Sleepy has a lot of performance tests.
I have been working on the topic of emulation for several years now and understand the capabilities of SoC 🙂

There are certain risks associated with quality control and orders from Aliexpress, so it is better to perform a full test of the console with video recording immediately after unpacking 🙂
I've seen several reviews where the console didn't work correctly right out of the box, froze, showed errors, and had performance issues with the N64. Also on the forum there are already reviews from a person who encountered a defective console and was forced to send it back to the manufacturer.

Therefore, I took care of previously preparing the microSD for a full test.

[mint ember]

One of most beautiful games on ps2

[paper cloak]

Very nice, but nothing is clear 🙂
FPS is not visible and the video image is very compressed.
I can't play the last video at all 😦

I looked it up on YouTube, it's a really nice game.
Does it run at least 30 FPS? It seems there are no activities there, you can play for 30.

[mint ember]

Video image is compressed for preview and for teaser 🙂
Will post full quality videos on my channel 🙂

[elfin nimbus]

Upside down....but I've only had it for some hours. 👀

Edit: So far only things working are the panel, sound, wifi, hdmi, and buttons,joysticks. Still need bluetooth, resume, and touchscreen.

[river zenith]

this is the andorid 13?

[elfin nimbus]

yes

[river zenith]

if you need any file else just call me

i can give you all you need if i have

[pure fossil]

yes I was talking about the second version of e6 with Android blocked, interesting video even if I don't understand Portuguese. ty

[frank minnow]

did you manage to unlock the device and access android ?

[wheat wagon]

what game

[prisma moon]

icey

[hushed mantle]

https://youtu.be/xvtMnQ_V5CQ?si=hslFwL_7kAXt3rm9

[wheat wagon]

switch or android?

[prisma moon]

Android

[candid ridge]

Which version? Old or new?

[mint ember]

Looks like android apk 🙂

[candid ridge]

If your device came with linux then you need to unplug the battery from the board and replug it and with the latest chaos version you will have the correct battery level.

[paper cloak]

Please tell me why you chose Chaos and not Rokinx?
As far as I understand, Rocknix was also launched. I've been keeping an eye on the Powkiddy X55, console owners have been very pleased with the performance boost when switching to Roknix.

e1000 wrote that you gave him an image for the E6 PLUS:
(#1075906301705601044 message).

And another question, I know that on some devices you can add RAM by replacing RAM chips, I heard that Powkiddy did this.

Perhaps there is someone here with sufficient knowledge on this issue? There is a link here to a Brazilian review where they run a lot of APK games, and if I understand correctly, he complained that there was not enough memory for some games.

I have equipment and experience in transplanting memory chips, but I don’t have enough competence to understand whether this is possible or not, and whether something needs to be changed in the firmware.

[cursive star]

@prime pumice is king of ram upgrades

[prime pumice]

IMO, no reason to need more than 2GB ram on rk3566 devices

[steel falcon]

Yes, I have a 8gb ram Orange Pi 3B and this memory helps nothing in poor performance of this device

[wheat wagon]

Huh? They’re both jelos forks you know

[candid ridge]

Rocknix will not work out of the box. It requires a lot of changes. cHAos is my own brand, I cannot use rocknix as is not officially supported by them. I am not planning to make changes to work with latest rocknix or something.

[pure fossil]

no, I haven't tried anything yet, it seems a bit too complicated

[paper cloak]

Disassembling the device and working with a soldering iron is not a problem. Those. I know how to solder and rework BGA chips. But you also need to know which chips can (and whether?) be replaced with, and what to change in the Linux configs.

[paper cloak]

Does this apply to both Linux and Android?
There is no doubt that Linux does not need more than 2GB; all that 4GB will provide is increased battery consumption.

But for Android 11, in my opinion, 2 GB is not enough, there only the system + google services easily take up 800 MB. And Android games are sometimes very careless with memory.
Yes, maybe 3GB would be enough, but we have either 2 or 4.

Considering that the issue price is $3-5 for used RAM chips, it would be interesting to try in the future.

[paper cloak]

Knowing how to solder is not the same as understanding the features 🙂
There is a joke on this topic:

A machine broke down at the factory. The entire plant was repaired for a week, but nothing worked.
They called a specialist. The specialist came, looked, took a hammer, hit it once and the machine started working.
The plant director asks: “How much do we charge?”
“$100,” the worker answers.

• Why a hundred? You only hit it once with a hammer and that’s it!
• Right. 1$ - for hitting once, and 99$ - for knowing where to hit.

So I can hit, but I don’t know where 🙂

[candid ridge]

you need to check the datasheet of the current ram chips (4 - 2 on front, 2 on back) to make sure you use similar

[cursive star]

does anyone have a picture of the inside of the E6 Plus?

[candid ridge]

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[prime pumice]

you're generally right about this, android does need a bit more memory than linux. The problem is, you'll also run out of CPU alongside memory, so almost everything that needs >2gb memory, will also begin chugging because of high CPU. Of course there may be an edge case out there where more memory keeps something running, but in my experience it's exceedingly rare. If you have the skills, it should be fairly straightforward, just need to replace the 4x DDR3 chips with 1G each instead of the 512MB ones that are on there.

[humble panther]

My console is coming to me any day now, and I think I can try to enable the swap file.
This "feature" is being shoved into Android devices by all manufacturers who can't be bothered.
Thus "sort of" expanding the RAM.
What do you think, is there any sense in it or is it not worth bothering with?

[candid ridge]

Maybe you will see 1% different in the best case scenario.

I have an rk3566 with 8gb of ram and is overkill for the ram

As e1000 pointed out, CPU/GPU is the bottleneck. This cpu with 2gb of ram run decent PSP. Everything else is okish for some titles.

But you can try it

[humble panther]

Okay, I hear you.
Basically, the level of performance we have now is quite adequate considering the price.
We need to be realistic, you want more, you pay more.

[prime pumice]

i would say use the handheld first and see what limitations you run into. You may never run into a ram issue with the games and apps that you run. If you do however, that's when I would start worrying about it

[paper cloak]

There is a possibility that they do not install the best EMMC memory chips and loading them with SWP recording is not the best option 🙂
And the cards there are usually quite slow and they are even less designed for recording.

[proven python]

Yeah this is cheapie Android that's actually amazing as a start, at the price point.

[cursive star]

i couldnt see another android compatible console, with touch etc that has the same pricepoint

[cursive star]

can somone test better X Cloud on the E6 Plus?

[mint ember]

Regarding to my tests, emmc here is not the worst, copying games from ssd to emmc to run it from internal memory of console for best performance, and speed is not too bad compared with previous budget consoles.

[candid ridge]

Also if you use an SD card with android, use it in the first slot and not the second.

[fringe wren]

working smoothly without any lag.

[cursive star]

thanks for checking for me

[paper cloak]

Android version
The controls don't work (this is a problem with the game itself, you need a gamepad emulator)
Performance is excellent.

It’s difficult with streaming, you need 5GHz, here only 2.4, I have a lot of neighbors and devices on 2.4, in the end it works but freezes from time to time. According to the test, it holds 35 Mbit, but in reality it does not hold higher than 10.
Steam Link says it uses a hardware decoder.
So far there are no problems with communication, the game is generally played normally, the delay of 50ms is of course a bit much, but tolerable. But due to constant connection jumps, it’s not pleasant to play. (The AX6S + OpenWRT router is quite good, at 5 GHz I use it for Quest3 at 350 Mbit stream).
I think that this is individual, for those who have fewer neighbors, it may be easier.

[elfin nimbus]

Has anyone used or has uart connected to this? 🤔

[prime pumice]

haven’t tried, something wrong?

[elfin nimbus]

I needed to debug sleep/resume and didn't feel like taking mines apart for the 5th time. 🥲 But I think I have it now. Got all hardware working with the 5.10 kernel and Android 13.

[wheat wagon]

get a 5ghz dongle then

[candid ridge]

Is near start button. You find there 3 holes

[paper cloak]

I don’t know if it’s appropriate to ask a question here, but I couldn’t find a better place 🙂

In Chaos OS, in the scraper section, only Arcade DB is available from available sources. How can I add other sources?

[candid ridge]

You cannot. I forgot to add my api keys when I made the build. I am working on a new image with updated emulators so it will be on the next release.

[paper cloak]

Thanks for the feedback, then there are a couple of other things I ran into:

1. When I enter the file manager (Tools), the image disappears, and appears when I move through the directories (press keys).
2. Games that I download from PortMaster are downloaded to rom\ports and their SH files are added to roms\ports_scripts, while emuelec seems to only look at ports and therefore does not see downloaded games, if you upload the SH file from roms\ports_scripts to rom\ports then it sees games.
3. Through the "Tools" menu I turn off the LED backlight, but if I reboot the device it turns on again.

[candid ridge]

Yes, I know about all of them but there were non functional bugs and they have a low priority for me. The fileman issue I know about it for some time, but I still don’t know where is the issue.

[candid ridge]

if I am not able to fix it, I will replace it with something else

[candid ridge]

all points are fixed. I will upload the new release as soon as I test it a bit

[paper cloak]

I don’t even know what else can be improved there, since everything works fine as it is.
The only thing missing is scraper, although this can be solved via ARRM on PC.

But Android with Root would be very useful. (root for virtual gamepad applications).
On stock Android there is a notification that "performance may be reduced because debugging mode is enabled."

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Only I wrote and @elfin nimbus posted Android13.
I'll test it now, it's just great.

@elfin nimbus
Can you please tell me how I can make a backup copy of my current Android?

If I understand correctly, do you need to indicate addresses here?

[candid ridge]

I uploaded the new image, you can test it.

[frank minnow]

does this work with the normal E6 ?

[candid ridge]

no. is only for E6 Plus

[paper cloak]

Please tell me if I can somehow save my settings (I configured shaders for different systems, screen settings for some games, and other settings).

[candid ridge]

if you upload tar image will do the upgrade and should keep your settings

take a look here

[paper cloak]

Yes, that's what need. Thank you!

@candid ridge Have you already disassembled the device?
Do you know if it is possible to change the WiFi module there?

[candid ridge]

yes. is possible. the new revisions are coming with RTL8733BS which supports 5Ghz but is limited to 150mb. if you change it go with RTL8821CU. that I can add it to cHAos, but you will not have the driver on android

[frank minnow]

will there be a new version of android 64bit for the normal E6 (not plus)? Because the E6 is with android 32bit

[paper cloak]

This is good news, i.e. Is there a BGA chip that can simply be replaced? Or is WiFi provided there as is sometimes the case as a separate board?

[candid ridge]

yes. is QFN

[candid ridge]

is on my pipeline to test it on E6

you want to ask Notime2d8

[frank minnow]

Thanks, it will be very nice

[mint ember]

Sure, my bad😅

[frank minnow]

Is the problem with the controllers split into two different controllers (1 for all the buttons and 1 for all the analog and the directional cross) will be resolved ? and will it be merge into one fully functional controller ?

[paper cloak]

@candid ridge, @elfin nimbus
Is there a chance that in the future it will be possible to switch between OSs without removing the MicroSD?
If I understand correctly, when starting, the bootloader searches for a specific file on the card to transfer the load to it, would it be possible to add this file in Android during the reboot command and, on the contrary, to delete it in Linux if the boot option in Android is selected?

[candid ridge]

I am exploring this, but I didn’t had time to test. I am planning to use M button to boot into android when you press it at startup and normally will boot into linux

[elfin nimbus]

Here's a link to the x55 channel. It has instructions on how to root with Magisk and other tips in pins.

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[sturdy lava]

Hello friends, I recently acquired an E6 plus, I would like to change the factory system, can you recommend me, thank you

[torn nacelle]

New Android image? Where is list of uploads

[ember laurel]

I’d love to check out the Android build as well

[elfin nimbus]

#developer-news message

[ember laurel]

🙏 Amazing work!

[urban flare]

Okay I am pretty sure I fucked up upgrading to 13 and soft bricked it (I have no idea what I am doing). I thought I had followed the instructions correctly, but I guess not lol.

And I did not make a backup 👉👉

[candid ridge]

Is now going to maskrom only?

[urban flare]

Its stuck on a white background with the GameMT logo

[candid ridge]

Then is not that bad, you still can go into loader mode and try again

[urban flare]

Ohh thats good news then! It doesn't seem to be showing up when connected over usb

[urban flare]

Oooh found your other post and was able to get it to boot into loader

Welp no now it might be bricked...

no longer showing up as connected and device doesnt seem to be responding

I have movement again! Attempting to flash again... 🤞

I saw it jump from I think 65% to 100 and seems to be stuck again on the white background with the logo

[candid ridge]

Try a shorter cable

[urban flare]

Hmm I tied a 6 inch cable and still no dice. I’ll try some more cables later today. I tried both gapps and non gapps.

[humble panther]

As I understand, you are flashing through Rkdevtool.
You may have made a mistake at some point in the process, now we need to figure out where it is

[novel dust]

The $51 sale item arrived

[paper cloak]

Perhaps someone knows inexpensive or free software for emulating screen clicks on gamepad buttons?
I tried:
Mantis - It works but is very heavy (75 megabytes) plus it itself does not work conveniently through starting the service.
octopus - does not see the gamepad, asks to connect via Bluetooth.
Panda Gamepad Pro - there is no demo version, but there are difficulties with purchasing.
tincore keymapper - development has stopped, constantly complains about an unsupported OS version.
Game Controller 2 Touch, GKM Touch, Mobile Controller Helper, DroidMote are very old and not supported by the authors.

[river zenith]

one key switch android & linux

[candid ridge]

@paper cloak did you installed the new prerelease I made yesterday?

[paper cloak]

Yes, everything works well as in the first version.
Added correct operation of PortMaster and Scraping.

But in general, the performance of emulators is extremely low compared to Android. Where I set it to 3x in Android (PS1), in Linux it’s barely 1x at 60 FPS. I tried different kernels, but still not the same. DuckStation SA generally launches upside down, I haven’t figured it out yet.

The same applies to PSP and DreamCast, i.e. This is not a question for you but for the retroarch cores.

While I switched to the Android setting, everything is much more convenient there and there are more games that are interesting to me.

[candid ridge]

I will check duckstation. I am asking because I think the battery issue with 0% is back. after the release from yesterday my battery is at 0% now

if you get the same think, then is a problem with this release

[paper cloak]

I want to say that everything works fine out of the box, incl. and heavy emulators, but on Android you can get better graphics and performance. Any of my attempts to change something in the retroarch kernels lead to worse results.
The kernels themselves are configured well by default and are usable.

[paper cloak]

No, I have never had a problem with 0%, the correct charge is always shown. Moreover, sleep works well, I did not test it on the latest version of Linux (the battery was dead and it was on charge) and the previous version lost 1% in 12 hours.

[fringe wren]

I installed the latest release today afternoon, my battery is at 0% again.

[candid ridge]

ok. I will rebuild everything and delete the prerelease

[paper cloak]

@elfin nimbus
It seems to me that there is some problem with MicroSD in Android 13.
If I insert a card into the Ext slot, the system writes that the card needs to be configured and formatted, after formatting it even appears in the “Storage” settings, but when selecting a card it again offers to format.

If I insert it into the "Init" (OS) slot, then everything starts working fine, if I then move it back to Ext, it also works until a reboot.

Also a strange problem, perhaps this is a feature of Android, but I cannot select files in applications that are on the SD card.
For example, try in https://github.com/glKarin/com.n0n3m4.diii4a/releases/download/v1.1.0harmattan51/idTech4A++_1.1.0harmattan51.apk
Open the path selection form and select a directory on the card, I have EMMC mounted in my sdcard and I still haven’t found a MicroSD card.

[cursive star]

So, I received my e6 plus

Stuck pixel smack in the middle of the LCD

[wheat wagon]

I don’t see a stuck pixel, looks like a permanent crosshair to me 🤣

[cursive star]

Pretty much

The screen seems more washed out than I’ve seen in other pictures too

The colour and contrast

Has stick drift in android too 🤦🏻‍♂️

Given the lack of play store what alt stores exist

[prime pumice]

aptoide? not sure if it's trustworthy or not

[cursive star]

Yeah I would have gone for that but I heard it’s got bad

Who has the android 13 image installed

Does it have this option

It doesn’t work on 11

Wait I thought these had stereo speakers

They do

I can see through shell

Mine only has left working at least in the test app.

[cursive star]

At this point

Avoid this store

Avoid this seller I guess

I have stuck pixel. One dead speaker and stick drift disappointed to say the least and now it’s not even reading it’s supplied SD Card

[proven python]

That's the store selling cheaper than GameMT I think, right?

[cursive star]

Yeah was in the sale

Found out why speaker wasn’t working

No haptic motor either or is that normal?

[prime pumice]

damn you got a lemon!

[mint ember]

It's already in my black list from last year

[urban flare]

Eh thats where I got mine, shipped fast and arrived fine. Nothing wrong with that seller, seems like they just got unlucky.

[candid ridge]

is normal. I asked the factory to add the connector for users who wants to add a rumble motor later. this is the new revision of the board

[urban flare]

Time to take another stab at flashing android 13

Hmmm. Both SD cards are removed, booted into loader mode by holding the volume + and pressing power. Then using RKDevTool to flash the android 13 img. Claims to be successful but jumps from 65% to 100% during the process. When the system tries to reboot itself I get stuck on a white background screen with the GameMT logo.

I have tried different cables and none seemed to make a difference.

[cursive star]

yet it has such bad QC

😦

the stuck pixel i can forgive

actually, no

not when its in the middle of the screen

the SD reads in my PC

i love how it feels like a mini steamdeck though

in linux with saturation at 100

screen looks better so its a similar situation to the TSP

[elfin nimbus]

That wasn't the recommended flashing. It has issues flashing from SD card and maskrom. I haven't found a reason for that. But you have to boot into Android, connect your USB, rkdevtools will say adb device found, and hit "Switch" to reboot into "loader mode" and flash from there.

[urban flare]

That is exactly what I had done the first time and it rebooted to the white background with the logo. Now I can't boot into android to follow those steps again.

Does anyone happen to have a stock android image handy?

[elfin nimbus]

I'll dm you the factory recovery in a second.

[urban flare]

<3 thank you!

[cursive star]

i cant get the RK software to even recognise the thing

device manager keeps showing it as an Acer device

Nope I get an IDB ERROR

why is mine all chinese too?

@urban flare I had the same issue

Are you using a laptop or PC

I had to flash with a PC ➡️ USB C hub ➡️ E6 Plus

ive had similar issues with other devices (i tinker with android stuff a lot)

been told its a Ryzen thing lol

[urban flare]

Hmmm

I do have a ryzen 7700...

I can try a laptop... if I have any that has an OS still.

[cursive star]

Play store works on 13 wait what 👀

I didn’t realise that

[urban flare]

Yep! There are two versions, one with gapps the other without.

[candid ridge]

I found out why I have the issue with the battery. I have two E6 Plus. on one is working fine and in the other one the issue with the battery happens. it seems is related to the android from it. I will test also in conbination with new android 13

[cursive star]

Let’s goooo 🤣

[elfin nimbus]

I guess I'm going to try buying a new revision? With updated WiFi and rumble. 🤔 It might be my last rk3566 device unless they actually make a clamshell.

[candid ridge]

@elfin nimbus you don't have it with the new wifi?

the new chip is RTL8733BS

I have 2 one with old wifi and one with the new wifi. but I don't have the revision with rumble motor

[elfin nimbus]

No, the dev unit I got last week has the rtl8723. But it took 2 weeks to come.

[candid ridge]

yes. I think I got the second unit around the time you got yours. so probably they added the new revision later

[cursive star]

can i check wifi chip without opening again?

[candid ridge]

I only have one linux image currently on my release page, if wifi is not working then you have the new 5Ghz wifi chip, as the driver was added later but I deleted today the prerelease from yesterday

[cursive star]

ive not tried a different linux only android

[elfin nimbus]

Does WiFi work in Android? 🤔

[cursive star]

yeah but i did have issues getting it to connect at first it stated connected but in setup it wasn't recognized. this was fixed with a reboot

[candid ridge]

do you see 5Ghz networks?

[cursive star]

i have joint networks not seperate for different frequencies

[elfin nimbus]

Android 13 only has the wifi driver for the 8723ds. I just got the new driver's today. 🧐

[cursive star]

Ok nope no new WiFi chip

[candid ridge]

yep. I just flash it on the one with new wifi and no network found

[cursive star]

WiFi analyser shows no 5ghz

[candid ridge]

@elfin nimbus so any plans to add the new wifi driver? 😄

[cursive star]

Speaking of how I got a lemon. Does anyone else’s have backlight bleed into the shell as much?

[candid ridge]

because of the LEDs?

[cursive star]

Nope the LCD

[candid ridge]

no. I don't have on the same color

[cursive star]

Damn. This one really slipped past QC man

[urban flare]

I can hopefully give you a comparison in a minute, I've got the same color.

[cursive star]

Would it be rude to ask sinyorksu how this slipped through QC

[fringe wren]

@elfin nimbus i am testing on new Android 13. i've found below compared to the stock android.

1. touch is quite sensitive than stock (long touch for moving icon or showing popup menu is almost impossible)
2. recent app is always empty when recents button (square) pressed (but background apps working well)
3. the controller is detected as singleadc_joypad, but select/start/M buttons are detected as hdmi_cec_key. so can't use 3 buttons in some apps such as Retroarch.
4. vita3k won't work. (working good on stock Android)
5. frequent crash and reboot (without special reason)

it seems everything better except the above matters. as a big fan of Android 13 for x55 which is super-stable, I appreciate your another work.

[cursive star]

1. I don’t have that issue (yay I found one I don’t have!)
2. Yeah I have this issue also it seems
3. N/A
   4.N/A
   5.N/A

[candid ridge]

start/select/M/VOL+/VOL- are connected to the same GPIO and is using ADC which will never be possible to press them in the same time

[elfin nimbus]

Thanks, yeah recent apps were disabled to save ram and background apps were limited to 5? I test vita3k on my side.

[cursive star]

Ah ok it’s confusing not having the option to see what is open, switch between them and clear all together

[elfin nimbus]

I'll reverse that when ?I do the wifi driver.

[mint ember]

Flashed dev stock image a11 64bit with FactoryTool_v1.81, don't know if it makes difference to flash image with RKDevTool

[cursive star]

Does the app switcher UI actually use that much RAM? I didn’t even think it would use any lol

[elfin nimbus]

Yeah, it does for the screenshots and actually loading them.

[mint ember]

Thanks for testing a13, and for checking vita3k, will stay on my current fw for a while:)

[fringe wren]

all buttons are detected as mt_keypad on stock android, but the controller is divided into two(singleadc_joypad/hdmi_cec_key) on new android, they are recognized as different controller and assigned as Port#1, Port#2 each in Retroarch.

[fringe wren]

it might help to secure more memory if I limit background apps to 1 or 2 in developer menu? Thanks for checking 🙂

[paper cloak]

1. No touch work great
2. Yes I have the same problem
3. Yes
4. Not tested
5. No, I used Android for about 6 hours on battery life, installed games, played.
   Also, since installation, there has not been a single case of the device freezing or rebooting in Android or Linux.

[paper cloak]

It seems to me that there is some problem with MicroSD in Android 13.
If I insert a card into the Ext slot, the system writes that the card needs to be configured and formatted, after formatting it even appears in the “Storage” settings, but when selecting a card it again offers to format.

If I insert it into the "Init" (OS) slot, then everything starts working fine, if I then move it back to Ext, it also works until a reboot.

Also a strange problem, perhaps this is a feature of Android, but I cannot select files in applications that are on the SD card.
For example, try in https://github.com/glKarin/com.n0n3m4.diii4a/releases/download/v1.1.0harmattan51/idTech4A++_1.1.0harmattan51.apk
Open the path selection form and select a directory on the card, I have EMMC mounted in my sdcard and I still haven’t found a MicroSD card.

Now I'm faced with the problem that 32 GB of EMMC in Android is very much missing.
Previously, it was possible to transfer applications to a memory card, but now this is no longer possible. On a regular phone this didn’t really matter.

Maybe there are some options using Root to make a Hardlink or somehow cleverly mount a memory card so that at least the Android\obb partition can be transferred to the memory card?

Literally 4 games are already minus 8 GB EMMC.

[mint ember]

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.a0soft.gphone.app2sd

[paper cloak]

"You must format the SD card as internal(or phone) storage for moving apps"

This will break Chaos as it will then not be able to access the memory card.

[mint ember]

Not all apps supported yet

[paper cloak]

I think using Root you can try to do this more cleverly through mount points. Unfortunately, I do not understand this issue very deeply.

[cursive star]

Good idea for the e6 plus?

https://a.aliexpress.com/_EQVZ5yB

anyone else got some?

@fringe wren is your touch issue more noticeable whilst charging?

[fringe wren]

the sensitive and slippery touch has been solved like a magic😛 it works good as before. the only difference was where I was, company or home.

[mint ember]

128gb card in 1st int slot

[mint ember]

Ps2 games playing with same speed from the card, compared to emmc

[acoustic gulch]

y'all got ps2 to run on this? how is the thermal management?

[mint ember]

It's better to install heatsink🔥

Right edge area of the screen is getting really hot, and it's not only with ps2, but with all performances demanding stuff

[prime pumice]

mine refuses to complete booting on android 13

[frank minnow]

Is the problem with the controllers split into two different controllers (1 for all the buttons and 1 for all the analog and the directional cross) will be resolved in next release (for normal e6, not plus) ? and will it be merge into one fully functional controller ?

[cursive star]

Have you installed a heatsink on it?

If so would you be able to share what one?

[candid ridge]

on android?

[frank minnow]

Yes on android of normal e6 (32bits)

[candid ridge]

then I don't think so. on linux I made a special service to make sure the adc keys are part of the main controller as there were some problems with the ports

[frank minnow]

Is it possible to reuse the same special service but adapted for Android?

[candid ridge]

IDK. I made the service because if I include the buttons on the driver I will still have the issue not able to press 2 buttons in the same time, and in my service I assigned M button to emulate pressing start and select in the same time

[frank minnow]

But can you just separate button like volume up/down, M, start, select and all other button in one

[candid ridge]

on linux they are like this

but most of the emulators they expect start/select part of controller

[frank minnow]

But why did they split controller in two on stock android

[candid ridge]

yes. I know. they need a new driver for that

[frank minnow]

Is there a reason for doing this

Are they working on a new driver ?

[candid ridge]

yes. because of the type of the buttons. they are ADC so all start/select/M/vol+/vol- are connected to only 1 GPIO and they measure the voltage to determine which button was pressed

[candid ridge]

as far as I know, no

[frank minnow]

But its weird because it is not start/select/vol-/vol+/M who are split, they are all include in one controller who contains all the button (a, b, x, y, start, select ... ). The other controller is just for analog and D pad

[candid ridge]

yes. now that you said I think I remember something like this when I looked at the dtb file

[frank minnow]

Is this possible to solve this and have only 1 controller for button and analog ?

[candid ridge]

without changing the driver I don't see how

I will try to discuss with them to se what can be done

[frank minnow]

Okay, thank you for your work

[mint ember]

No, I'm not that good on hardware modding😅

[cursive star]

i thought you might have put a self adhesive one on or something haha

[fringe wren]

anyone tried nds drastic-SA on chaos 20240707? @candid ridge i am testing nds with various roms but every game freeze(needs forced shutdown) in 1-10min without exception

[candid ridge]

I didn't test nds on it. I will check

[cursive star]

Weird. So start works as start button in GTA San Andreas but on other games it doesn’t recognise the key press at all (android 13)

[candid ridge]

no issues I tested 4 different titles, works fine.

[wheat wagon]

Did you get the normal e6 as well? are you also making lineage for that one?

[fringe wren]

could you please test castlevania dawn of sorrow? because it freezes during intro scene faster than others. i have 2 devices and same result. thank you for testing.

[candid ridge]

if the results is the same o both, then try the rom from diferent source

[fringe wren]

ofc i've tried roms from different sources even i tested every locale version as i'm afraid there's an error in a particular language. but now everything is perfect and never crash any more for 1 hour after reinstall 20240625 release. how strange. sorry for confusing.

[candid ridge]

that is strange because the nds emulator is the same one, no changes there

[fringe wren]

yes i think so. i found the ver is same r2.5.2.2

[candid ridge]

the version is the same across all linux OS available because no one has access to the code, so is the same version from very long time ago

[paper cloak]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kFKHSr9EuNw

Maybe someone will be interested, I recorded a little video with Android games. Of course, the queue of games to install is huge, but there’s not enough space 😦

[sturdy lava]

Where can I download this version of Android to test?

[mint ember]

Please check pinned messages 🙂

[sturdy lava]

hello Sleepy, the on pinned messages links are disabled

@sturdy lava

[mint ember]

Really, uploader temporarily removed link🤷‍♂️

[sturdy lava]

Is it possible to install this on the e6 plus? https://github.com/TheGammaSqueeze/GammaOS-RK3566/releases/tag/GammaOS_v1.5.1_RG353_RGARC

[mint ember]

No

[sturdy lava]

thanks bro

[cursive star]

Does anyone have the dimensions for the E6 plus screen including bezel? Save me ordering a new set of callipers

I want to look for a tempered glass for it but hopefully I can find a Matte finish one

[prime pumice]

did a quick measure of 124x72mm

[stray crater]

Anyone else having the issue where the right side of the screen starts heating up pretty quickly once you turn it on

[fringe wren]

same here

[paper cloak]

@elfin nimbus
I see that you have removed the link to download the image. Are there any hidden problems there? Or is this due to other reasons?

I've been using your image for several days now, and the only problem is that microSD only works in the init slot, i.e. you have to take out the microsd on which the OS is located, and in its place put the microsd with games.

Plus, in one game (A4IdTech+++) it is not possible to specify the path to the memory card, since it uses its own selection dialog and not the system one.

[paper cloak]

Yes, there is heating, the pyrometer shows 47 degrees after several hours of play, I don’t think this is a problem...

[mint ember]

Yes, looks all here have the same:))

[cursive star]

I don't know if this is a unpopular opinion but i feel like as the manufacturers for some of these devices should spend more time addressing thermals. it cant be that much more expensive and its not like we are using jz4770 SOC's anymore some of these chipsets get pretty toasty

my E6 Plus and TSP get hotter than id like under load

[paper cloak]

Please tell me that in stock Linux there were these frames ("bezels"). How to add them to CHAOS?

I looked at the structure but there is no directory named "bezels" anywhere.
Also in the system itself there is a choice of OVERLAY SET, but there are no selection options.

[wheat wagon]

https://amberelec.org/guides/getting-to-know-amberelec.html

[paper cloak]

Something does not work.
I uploaded the files to \cHAos-E6-Plus\games-external\roms\bezels\gb
I go into the game boy system settings, there are Overlay sets there, but the selection items do not appear. Also, when starting the game, the frame is missing.

The description has this section:
"Bezels are activated by choosing a folder for Decorations in Advanced System Options or Advanced Game Options. You can either use the pre-configured folder that come with the system (DEFAULT) or create your own folder in /roms/bezels/ - you can use the folders in /tmp/overlays/bezels/ as a blueprint."

But there is no such menu in Chaos; in the system menu there is only “Overlay Sets” and there are only 2 items “Default” and “No”

[wheat wagon]

oof this was rocknix mb

[wheat wagon]

https://rocknix.org/configure/overlays/ Chaos for E6 plus is Rocknix so this is the right documentation my bad

[paper cloak]

Yes, this is what I looked at first, and through the RetroArch menu I can install an overlay.
But I wanted to deal with the menu available from Chaos: "Overlay sets"

[mint ember]

Chaos for E6 Plus is Jelos 🙃

[wheat wagon]

https://tenor.com/view/potato-tomato-brooklyn99-gif-10539258

[sturdy lava]

Could someone re-upload the andriod image for the e6 plus, thank you

[elfin nimbus]

Hey, yes. They used ddr3 instead of the usual ddr4 that most rk3566 devices use. My Android builds had the ram overclocked and it caused stability issues or freezing. I'm also looking to fix the SD, recent apps, and new WiFi driver. I'll do another upload today with those fixes.

[paper cloak]

This is strange, I used your Android for many hours, incl. I played Doom3 for 1.5 hours, MaxPayne for 2 hours. It also took more than 10 hours to set up emulators, install programs, incl. and extracting obb from archives directly on the device within a few hours.
During all this time, the device worked perfectly and stably.

Maybe different revisions of hardware are used?
I can somehow check without disassembling the device what type of RAM is used in my device?

There are two questions:

1. Will it be possible to somehow install a new version of the firmware while preserving all the data? Those. like an update.

2. ... This is probably not really a question for the firmware, but rather for you as an Android expert... Is there a way to mount the Android/obb partition from EMMC to an SD Card. Games take up a lot of space, and literally 5-6 games fill up the entire EMCC memory, mostly of course obb takes up space.
   I understand that if you format the memory card as “internal storage” then most likely there will be no problems mounting it, but then the contents of the card will not be accessible to Linux. Perhaps there are some options to solve this problem using Root access and /etc/fstab?

[candid lynx]

or perhaps you just won the silicon lottery and your chips can handle that setting

[paper cloak]

I tried lshw, dmidecode in Chaos but it’s probably some kind of non-Linux, I’m an “unsure user”, I tried apt, opkg doesn’t work 😦

[candid ridge]

All packages are included at build. Anything after cannot be added unless you run the binary because the system is read-only

[paper cloak]

Is there any way to view the type and parameters of RAM via SSH?

[candid ridge]

no because packages like dmidecode and lshw are not included

[paper cloak]

So it should be that ES loads the processor at 9% when the device is just lying on the table (background music is turned off, screen on)?

[candid ridge]

ES si closed when you launch a game. but if you want better performance on linux make sure you set the console on performance, as by default is o balanced

[elfin nimbus]

Yeah, I tested mines and left it running games overnight and then tested sleeping and battery draining overnight with no issues. And I think me fixing apps to SD messed up the second SD card slot. You should be able to flash just the super.img and keep your data but I haven't tested that.

And yes that is possible with root and apps2sd. Instructions for root and installing magisk are pinned under the x55 channel.

[paper cloak]

I tried apps2sd and it didn't work.
Perhaps this has something to do with the current situation with the SD card, I'll try again later.

*Magisk installed and rooted and working

[mint ember]

https://youtu.be/_bB_wbhIBHU

[cursive star]

i had the android port of life Is Strage running on mine with the android 13 inc google rom

for the first chapter

[elfin nimbus]

Hmm... So the old rtl8723 driver works for both. The new rtl8733 works only on the new revision. If I include both, I think it'll either crash loading both or use the rtl8723 driver. 🥲

I guess I need to figure out why the old driver loads for rtl8733 or just use the old driver that works for both? 🤔

[prime pumice]

how big of a performance hit is it on the old driver for the rtl8733?

[elfin nimbus]

Lol, no 5ghz

[prime pumice]

oh man

🤔

[candid ridge]

As far as I know at least on kernel 4.19, 8723 is included in the kernel. But for 8733 you need separate driver and I had problems with some drivers, but this seems to work good together with first driver.

[prime pumice]

https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256806756684280.html

[elfin nimbus]

Did you include both drivers and test it on the new model? And had working 5ghz?

[candid ridge]

Yes

Works on both revisions

[elfin nimbus]

Cool, thanks

[candid ridge]

But only this driver. I tried 4 other sources and it didn’t worked or it was no longer working with the original one

[elfin nimbus]

Oh, thanks. I feel like you knew I only checked the driver version. 😂

[candid ridge]

No. Are two different revisions of E6 plus

[elfin nimbus]

Oh, this is a good question. We need one of the lucky ones to check.

[candid ridge]

One antenna even for the one with 5Ghz

I already replaced the stock antenna with something better on both units I have

No. If you are on linux, if you use a version before 07.07 and wifi is not working then you have 8733 as the driver for 8733 was added on image from 07.07…or connect over ssh and see which chipset is on dmesg

Or if you are on 07.07 image then the if you don’t see 5Ghz networks then is the old one 😜

[elfin nimbus]

[    1.441925] mmc_host mmc1: Bus speed (slot 0) = 198000000Hz (slot req 200000000Hz, actual 198000000HZ div = 0)
[    1.541488] dwmmc_rockchip fe000000.dwmmc: Successfully tuned phase to 135
[    1.541988] mmc1: new ultra high speed SDR104 SDXC card at address 0001
[    1.543130] mmcblk1: mmc1:0001 SD 59.5 GiB 
[    1.544198] mmcblk1: p1

So I've been trying to figure out the sd card issue. And I've found that it's coming from me having the slots set to sdr104 and the max supported speed. This works fine for my sandisk cards. But both of the cards that came with my E6 Plus do not work. Neither does any of my other generic cards. I get the prompt in android "there's an issue, please format" No issues if I I change the mmc to sdr50.

[prime pumice]

SDR104 = 104MB/s

i doubt setting it to 50 would actually impact performance

[elfin nimbus]

yeah, it just makes me sad on the inside.

[prime pumice]

heh, i hear ya

[elfin nimbus]

Oh, I didn't even test them for that yet....

[prime pumice]

i wonder how fast it was going when i fingernail ejected mine right into the trash can

[elfin nimbus]

My 8gb at least had markings. My 64gb is just black.

[candid ridge]

In linux?

[candid ridge]

When is charging yes. But after you unplug it should go back to the correct value. Check also on Android.

[paper cloak]

Do I understand correctly that this is set somewhere in the configuration? Can this configuration be changed after the firmware is updated?
Those. It is clear that for compatibility you must use SDR50.
But for example, it would be nice for those who have fast cards to be able to adjust the configuration to suit their needs.

Strange situation, they also sent me a 64 card although I only ordered 8. It is also black without identification.
But I can't say anything bad about her.
Reading (which is extremely important for ROM) is ~90 MB, Writing is ~20MB, which is within the standard: U3 (UHS Speed ​​Class 3)

I completely rewrote it several times, including the hw2test test. Only at the end of the test, when there is less than 2 GB left, the speed begins to fluctuate. For reading, it consistently gives 90 MB.

There may be something wrong with your card reader. I recommend this model (6$):

I recently bought such a card (256GB - $19). It is also U3 and behaves similarly in both reading and writing.

UHS-I (104 MB/s), UHS-II (312 MB/s) are much more expensive (from $30) and, in my opinion, are redundant for ROM storage

[elfin nimbus]

Downloads links are back up. Fixed recent apps not showing, SD card issues, and compatibility. Those who weren't able to install before, it should work now. Ram speeds were lowered in the kernel and u-boot to match the ddr3 that was used. It also runs cooler. The WiFi driver for the rtl8733bs module was also added. If someone with that revision could tell me if WiFi and 5ghz networks work for them.

[prime pumice]

nice

[elfin nimbus]

Ah, I forgot to mention a thank you to you for testing and logging ram speed from the stock image. 🙏

[prime pumice]

no worries! glad i could help. flashing gapps version right now!

thanks for the work on these firmwares!

booted right up!

[candid ridge]

driver for 5Ghz dose not work. is not finding any network

[elfin nimbus]

Can you tell if it's loading the old driver still? or is there no wifi at all?

[candid ridge]

during the setup is not fining anything and after setup if I go to wifi I am not able to enable it, the button is toggled but if go out from there and come back the button is still off

[prime pumice]

wifi works on the old chip

[candid ridge]

also if I try to go to bluetooth, settings is crashing

[elfin nimbus]

So the old driver worked for both 2.4ghz. The new driver only let bluetooth work on the old model, both drivers added breaks bluetooth and wifi on the new revision. 🤔

[candid ridge]

seems likely. I think without having the new revision it will be a bit harder to make it work.

[prime pumice]

thanks to both of you guys, the linux and android builds totally changes this handheld

now..... i may start to do my hacking on it!

[candid ridge]

on linux I didn't got too much feedback so I asume is not that used

I think I will move from jelos to batocera or something else

[prime pumice]

oh, my bad on that, i got a bit frustrated with the entire thing and put it away, but to me your linux build worked great. Even installed a few ports and seemed like both 32 and 64-bit support all worked great

[candid ridge]

I am saying in general. because I found some other issues with some emulators which are upsidedown. but from the point of view of performance is way better on android with vulkan

[mint ember]

Yes, upside down issue happened for me as well here on Linux, and for Android actually very surprised how many ps2 games working very well, including 3d games and well known titles. Tested around 50 ps2 games on E6 Plus 🔥

[candid ridge]

did you tried simpsons hit and run?

[mint ember]

Tried it before on x55, and it was very playable there, supposed to be the same on E6PLUS as well:)

[paper cloak]

"You should be able to flash just the super.img and keep your data but I haven't tested that."
Can you tell us more about how to flash new firmware without completely resetting the device?

[sturdy lava]

This is very good news, my E6 Plus arrived with the old Android 11 system, could you explain to me how to perform a clean installation with this new system, thank you brother

[paper cloak]

The archive with image file contains detailed instructions for a clean installation and the necessary tools.

[sturdy lava]

Thanks

[paper cloak]

Is your SD card working properly?
In which slot?

[sturdy lava]

Both slots recognize the memories normally, but the system has frozen several times

[elfin nimbus]

Are you running with or without gapps? But it can be flashed like a normal Android device

fastboot flash super super.img

fastboot flash boot boot.img

You'll just need to boot into recovery by holding the volume+ while powering on and select enter fastboot.

[muted moon]

does linux support touchscreen on this?

[elfin nimbus]

No

[paper cloak]

C gaps. I wrote that the card was damaged and suggested formatting it. I formatted it and the error went away, now the card is accepted normally.

[paper cloak]

I decided to install with the information removed. But for the future I would like to know what Super.img is and where to get it.

[elfin nimbus]

I would have to upload it. When I build android it builds the separate partition images and a combined update.img. If I do another release I'll include the instructions to flash just the boot.img for kernel updates or the super.img for Android updates.

[paper cloak]

Yes, I understood that this requires additional work on your part, so I did not bother you. It was not difficult for me to make a copy and restore it later.

Rather, it was interesting for future releases.
So far the new version works just as good as the old one 🙂

But if I understand correctly, the performance of the new version should be slightly less due to the lack of memory overclocking?

[elfin nimbus]

Correct less heat and more stable though. But yes 1056mhz down to 780mhz.

[paper cloak]

Can this be configured via Android? Or only at the stage of building the firmware?

[muted moon]

is the cpu facing the screen or the shell? if the shell, you might be able to get away with adding a vent and heatsink

[pulsar stream]

just flashed A13 on my E6+ The Wi-Fi is not turning on.. is that a known issue?

[paper cloak]

Yes, see above. There are 2 revisions of E6+ with different WiFi chips rtl8733(5Ghz)/rtl8723ds(2.4Ghz). The author of the assembly does not have WiFi5 on hand; he used a driver that should be suitable, but probably does not. You are the second person to complain about WiFi in the new version.

[pulsar stream]

Thanks!

[paper cloak]

(but this is not exact, as I understand the problem)

[cursive star]

what emu are you using for ps2?

[mint ember]

There is only one emulator for ps2 - AetherSX2, but using mod of it - NetherSX:)