#Scuffed World Tour (Dec 18)

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mortal pagoda
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Scuffed World Tour

Please welcome the players for the Scuffed World Tour for Melee and Ultimate! Big thank you to @GoldenGuardians for hosting the tournament at their facility. We’ll see you on Sunday! 🎮

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Format is straight up double-elim, nothing fancy because we just have one day to work with.

Both tournaments will play out simultaneously, both streamed on Ludwig's main YouTube channel.

Hoping to release seeding late tonight. Players, if you have questions please DM me!

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umm i think we’ll see the actual bracket once seeding is out

slender bobcat
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Is this the bracket in place of SWT?

mortal pagoda
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yeah

slender bobcat
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Cool

mortal pagoda
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oh yeah the stream locations too

mortal pagoda
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p funny that it’s just on the ludwig yt

finite heath
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Real

mortal pagoda
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so true

mortal pagoda
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i guess i'd ping for this on saturday cuz it's a 1-dayer

shrewd smelt
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Isnt Sunday the day it is happening

mortal pagoda
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yeah

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i usually ping the day before the event

shrewd smelt
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Ohhh gotcha

mortal pagoda
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bracket and seedings up

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amusing things include uh

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gluto seeded to fight 2 kazuyas into steve

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dude maister is a bottom 4 seed that's how stacked this 16 is

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upset potentials in round 1... probably sonix over shuton? shuton's higher seed but he's been fairly even w/ ken's sonic in the past

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miya onin will also be a hot set - miya being the seeding underdog

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umm idk enough about high but not top level melee to comment on some of these but inviting inngenn is nice, ik kodorin vouched for him

shrewd smelt
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Also personally I wouldnt consider any of these upsets

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I know it is a seeding upset but really I would say any of them can take it really, but there are 2 that I am excited to watch

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Jdizzle

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and Ferps. He plays kazyua so 🤢 but Ive never seen or heard of him

mortal pagoda
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it's a dartboard and if you change up half of the things you can make a reasonable argument

shrewd smelt
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yeye

mortal pagoda
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i think that makes it fun tho

shrewd smelt
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Oh absolutely

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Im excited to watch

mortal pagoda
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ye

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i think they're getting all the big commentary ppl too

finite heath
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there was a tweet but I remember coney EE Charles and I think TK

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low key I am surprised Coney is allowed to commentate this as he is under Panda contract till end of the year

mortal pagoda
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oh nice

mortal pagoda
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plus panda cup was postponed

mortal pagoda
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oh that’s weird it’s not in full seeding order

mortal pagoda
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  • they had a couple of errors in the sheet (idk about the actual reported data)
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oh wait i forgot to standardize the shit 💀

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i would start a family with middle alignment

shrewd smelt
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Bro what

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Who is ferps

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He has no matches against anyone why is he invited? Did he pop off at some tournaments or something?

mortal pagoda
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brazilian kazuya, general top south american player

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cuz they used the same swt rulings of "top ranked player in each region" and he reps south america

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like how jdizzle represents oceania

shrewd smelt
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Ooooh gotcha

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I have to assume that is the same with sonicx

mortal pagoda
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uhh maybe

shrewd smelt
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Because I remember him, and CaptainCito playing in the oce swt last year

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Or maybe it wasn’t OCE But one of the ones with the surrounding islands

mortal pagoda
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sonix is the highest in his region, but he's also in the top 8 of the um

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points ranking

mortal pagoda
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The regions are North America, Central America, Europe, Japan, Oceania, South America, and Wild Card Region.
ok so that's leo, sonix, gluto, acola, jdizzle, ferps, and uh i don't know if they ever defined "wild card region"

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i think the initial plan for this event was to invite the top 8 of swt and then... something after that

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yeah i guess they just stuck with the swt formula and invited ferps/jdizzle

shrewd smelt
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I think the wild card was either supposed to be a play in as opposed to a region

mortal pagoda
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oh perhaps

shrewd smelt
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Or it was like the much smaller regions like the dominican republic

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It was one of the two, but either way it is still cool to see representation from other people

mortal pagoda
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yeah

shrewd smelt
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It is just a shame that we didn’t get the whole event

mortal pagoda
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also definitely lmao

shrewd smelt
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I expect to see you in the next one

mortal pagoda
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i prolly wont play smash next year or something like that 💀

shrewd smelt
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:o

twin sky
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yo yo

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doesnt this start soon

mortal pagoda
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it's a 1 day event on sunday

mortal pagoda
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but also lol lmao content creator branding

twin sky
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Top 8 predictions:

1st: MkLeo
2nd: Tweek
3rd: Light
4th: Glutonny
5th: Maister and Sparg0
7th: Sisqui and Sonix

finite heath
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I think spargo will be higher and light lower but otherwise I agree

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actually here's what I think
1 macleo
2 spargo
3 tweek
4 acola
5 gluto riddles
7 light dabuz

mortal pagoda
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this a washed light bracket huh

mortal pagoda
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<@&952393667509878814> yo! the scuffed world tour starts in approximately 24 hours from now isn't that cool? so fun anyway come thru cuz it's like the swt finals and all that man i hate nintendo

finite heath
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I think light is very streaky and I don’t think he’s been on his hot steak lately

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Smasha bros!!

mortal pagoda
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i agree

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i got him losing tooo tweek and onin

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i'll hold that if he wins those cuz it's not that surprising tho

cyan temple
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i think sparg0 might take this one after he lost with

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the invitational

mortal pagoda
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over leo?

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bold

lyric estuary
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He was looking good at mainstage

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Just depends on whether Leo will try or not

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Imo

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Miya is also capable of making a good run

mortal pagoda
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yea miya's gonna be interesting too

mortal pagoda
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at least somewhat

finite heath
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Me too

cyan temple
mortal pagoda
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trying mkleo clears

finite heath
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vouch

shrewd smelt
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What time does this start

calm dove
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2 PM EST

ebon helmBOT
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calm dove
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20:00 real time

ebon helmBOT
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calm dove
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Gluto will go 0-2 today

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Too depressed to smash

shrewd smelt
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Lol

mortal pagoda
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woo!!

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aw hell naw they uh oh back to the labbing his ass

calm dove
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Hungrybox will sweep

mortal pagoda
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real

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it’s time!!!

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wait no i misclicked 💀

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it’s time real!!!

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seems like they’re doing Every Match live

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ay ferps taking a game tho

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leo not trying??

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leo back to trying

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i mean good on ferps for making game 5

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oh fuck he got game 4 leo’d didn’t he

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aw hell naw the couch got melee merch on it

calm dove
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No way

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Ferps lost with kazuya??

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How

mortal pagoda
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leo banned him

calm dove
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Huge upset immediately wow

mortal pagoda
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ok it would be kinda funny if riddles lost cuz he’d just fight ferps

shrewd smelt
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THATS the dream

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kick one of the kazyua's out QUICK

mortal pagoda
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only if ferps beats riddles tbh

shrewd smelt
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^^^

mortal pagoda
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cuz then u get awesome cool upsets

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and more ferps! woo go underdog

shrewd smelt
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idk Riddles is just so boring to watch

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I think his Belmont and terry are more enjoyable to watch than his kazyua

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idk

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maybe it is just me

calm dove
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I am the biggest kazuya hater of all

mellow dawn
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i looked away to look up some Strive combo

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and i come back

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and Gluto lost

shrewd smelt
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Yo chef

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I plan to make my own smashboxx

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and Im gonna get back into ggs

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and possibly granblue

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you down to absolutely destroy me sometime?

mellow dawn
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i'm doodoo at Strive but sure!

shrewd smelt
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bro

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I do NOT play traditional fighters

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I only have like mindgame and conditioning fundamentals

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actual fundamentals? No

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Combos? No

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Potemkin? Ye

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Cara Cancel?: No

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lol

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but! I saw sin kiske is in the game and Flag characters are badass >:)

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Is ee's kneecap supposed to be a tear like ripped jeans

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or is it a patch

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or just a color on the pants

mortal pagoda
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i feel like youtube double streaming has been around forever

mellow dawn
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💀 i hate being negative but i really do not enjoy watching Steve or Kaz at all bruh

mortal pagoda
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i feel like whenever i watch these sets i’m just like ok what will the opponent do in this matchup!

shrewd smelt
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Yeah I think that is what I enjoy

mortal pagoda
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this one was a bit of a miss but jdizzle is innovative

shrewd smelt
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I like watching steve sets just to see how th opponent plays it

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but I dont inherently like watching either of them

mortal pagoda
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tangentially related

shrewd smelt
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also just sayin

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gLight's pants

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are sick

mortal pagoda
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kazuya dittos >>> steve dittos

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also damn wtf they do have offstream matches

shrewd smelt
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they said that they do

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but everything is recorded

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so it will be posted later

mortal pagoda
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makes sense

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umm tweek 3-2 maister pretty neat

mellow dawn
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Light just said he doesn't play WiFi but this mf was just on QP against Nairo 👁️

mortal pagoda
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if u mean that clip lowkey could’ve easily been like 3 weeks ago

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although idk is that mod possible on quickplay? i heard it being a possibility

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ooo onin miya

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i have this one chalked up to a miya upset

shrewd smelt
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I feel like game and watch vs steve is okay

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solely because of Fair

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but ehhh

mortal pagoda
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i hope miya does the mainstage maister thing

calm dove
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Was that pick sora and win and get confetti

mortal pagoda
shrewd smelt
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f

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Oh yeah

mortal pagoda
shrewd smelt
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I forgot you can hit the bomb

mortal pagoda
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yeah

shrewd smelt
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But if you get them in the air

mortal pagoda
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steve’s really good at hitting it tbh

shrewd smelt
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you can bait his dair

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with yoru up air into down b

mortal pagoda
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yeah up b just beats it it’s crazy

shrewd smelt
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This is insane tbh

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Onin is a fellow michigan boy

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but because he plays steve

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I have like NO desire to root for him

mortal pagoda
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i bet miya and acola grind online hella

shrewd smelt
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to be fair dont most japanese players hella grind online

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with their ranking system or whatever

mortal pagoda
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true

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at least somewhat

umbral vigil
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i have the unknown want to root for onin

calm dove
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I hope gnw win so we can ban him

umbral vigil
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not steve, just onin

shrewd smelt
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Thats fair fry

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arent both of these guys 16

mortal pagoda
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something like that

umbral vigil
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onin is 17 now iirc

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or im thinking of spargo

shrewd smelt
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wild

umbral vigil
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either way young talent

shrewd smelt
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LET THIS MAN TOUCH THE SATGE

umbral vigil
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NOOO ONIN

calm dove
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Gnw d smash “sour” spot

mortal pagoda
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ngl

umbral vigil
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he was at 150

mortal pagoda
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fd seems kinda bad in this matchup

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gnw has some counterplay to all of the landing options

shrewd smelt
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Fd has to be the worst for steve no matter what

mortal pagoda
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and no platforms to hide under

shrewd smelt
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because he doesnt get the stupid umbrella no?

mortal pagoda
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i suppose

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sometimes characters are ass on fd tho

umbral vigil
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i remember ages ago maister thought that g&w was the solution to steve and i think that's extra apparent nowadays

mortal pagoda
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also shovel for mats is good

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just took him some time

umbral vigil
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shovel for mats is amazing but against some characters steve cant land

mortal pagoda
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yeah

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i think onin overestimated his landing ability in this mu

shrewd smelt
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GAMEW

mortal pagoda
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lmao

shrewd smelt
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GAME

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lmao

umbral vigil
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true

calm dove
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Have a seat

umbral vigil
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HE WENT BACK TO FD???

mortal pagoda
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bit stubborn i suppose

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heck i’d just go ps2 ngl

calm dove
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Platforms are kind of a skilless gimmick tbh

mortal pagoda
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fake

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this is a platform fighter smh

umbral vigil
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in ult i agree

mortal pagoda
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my platformriding go crazy

umbral vigil
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they're the closest thing to legal stage hazards imo

mortal pagoda
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idk we got slants

umbral vigil
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yeah but no reasonable tournament has lylat and yoshi's is smaller

mortal pagoda
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genesis 9 🤐

umbral vigil
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genisis 9 💀

mortal pagoda
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fr

umbral vigil
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replacement for evo but kept the bad ruleset

mortal pagoda
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character before stage is a cute experiment tho

umbral vigil
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ONIN

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PLEASE

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ONE SETUP

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NOOOOOOOOOOOO

mortal pagoda
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lmao

calm dove
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What actually happened here

mortal pagoda
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yoo shoutouts to yakuza

shrewd smelt
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Onin should have gone to lylat

umbral vigil
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g&w beats steve ig

shrewd smelt
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naive fool

mortal pagoda
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damn

umbral vigil
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onin should've gone to not fd imo

mortal pagoda
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shuton sonix offstream

shrewd smelt
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thank God it is offstream lol

umbral vigil
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spargo one

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won*

mortal pagoda
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i wanna see it cuz there’s like

umbral vigil
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cant speak english

mortal pagoda
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upset potential

umbral vigil
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insane that 4 of these players are going 0-2

mortal pagoda
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yeah

calm dove
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Has gluto gone 0-2 yet

umbral vigil
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especially when we have ferps & gluto losers round 1

shrewd smelt
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MAddy

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here we go

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Kazyua round 2

umbral vigil
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if gluto goes 0-2 france loses three times in one day

mortal pagoda
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this is gluto’s 0-2

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and his joker arc

calm dove
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Here we gooo

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Three times?

umbral vigil
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world cup

calm dove
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What was the second

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Yeah

umbral vigil
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losing v. riddles

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losing v. ferps

calm dove
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Oh like both gluto losses

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I see

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Today is the day France dies

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Killed by Messi and Kazuya

umbral vigil
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big fan of the death of france however a big fan of gluto

calm dove
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I’m a big fan of death or kazuya can we get that instead

mortal pagoda
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the triple 😭

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i wonder if up b works on the second nair

shrewd smelt
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Wow for gluto MAD fucking ferps up so far

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the game is even

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Oh my GOD

mortal pagoda
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clown di??

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bro gonna go full joker mode

umbral vigil
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left for a minute and a half and ferps is 1-0

mortal pagoda
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yeah gluto just died

shrewd smelt
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yeeeeeeeeeeah

calm dove
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My brain is turning to mud please help

umbral vigil
shrewd smelt
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Perfect

mortal pagoda
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make pottery

shrewd smelt
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youre being molded to play kazyua

umbral vigil
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thank you coney the answer is i lose to fp2

mortal pagoda
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oh no coney is doosh-ing

calm dove
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Imma go do some laundry

umbral vigil
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gluto

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the only french person i respect come on lets go

shrewd smelt
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👀

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what about

mortal pagoda
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they spittin tho gluto got the one piece jacket 😭

shrewd smelt
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okay so question

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does kaz ALWAYS get the zoom in when he throws

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sometimes it does that kick sometimes ti does something else

mortal pagoda
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i think so

shrewd smelt
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does he have more than 4 throws?

mortal pagoda
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except up throw

umbral vigil
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99% of the time with the throws that do

mortal pagoda
umbral vigil
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he has 7 technically

mortal pagoda
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it’s a command grab

mortal pagoda
shrewd smelt
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Nah not the command grab

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just off of the normal grab

umbral vigil
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up down back forward command input down b rage drive

mortal pagoda
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he has four normal grabs

shrewd smelt
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because sometimes it just doesnt zoom in

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but I dont know when or why

mortal pagoda
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if u have rage it will do the Big One

umbral vigil
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in very weird circumstances it just wont zoom in

mortal pagoda
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ik at least in more than 2 players it doesn’t

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thank goodness

shrewd smelt
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lol I just didnt know why it sometimes doesnt zoom in when he throws me in 1v1

umbral vigil
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kazuya would be banned in doubles for that probably

mortal pagoda
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yeah idk

mortal pagoda
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wait 8 player all kazuya 😭

fallen bolt
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gluto is surviving rn

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for now

mortal pagoda
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i placed bets (my prediction) on gluto so come onn

umbral vigil
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he's up by 100% but will he choke

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HE CHOCKED

mortal pagoda
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oh that is a bad waft

shrewd smelt
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wild

mortal pagoda
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uh oh

fallen bolt
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are you guys on game 2?

mortal pagoda
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game 3

fallen bolt
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im watching game 3 rn

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oh

umbral vigil
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he has to play so well rn

fallen bolt
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im not looking at the stream

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didnt see the waft lmao

mortal pagoda
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quaint

umbral vigil
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he has to take this stock and then keep him in disadvantage next stock

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NOOO

mortal pagoda
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fart better 😭

umbral vigil
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WHAT WAS HE COOKING

mortal pagoda
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not the down smash 💀

fallen bolt
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yolo down smash xd

mortal pagoda
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bro is 1/1 in down smashes

mellow dawn
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something about the unironic use of that

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my goat

shrewd smelt
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rip ferps

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:/

mortal pagoda
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what could go wrong honestly

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also yea rip ferps

fallen bolt
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wait what

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was that bo3?

mortal pagoda
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i guess we missed a game

shrewd smelt
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no they said they didnt update the score

fallen bolt
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ah

umbral vigil
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i do not mind we have another kazuya

shrewd smelt
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3-1

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Like Im fine that kazyua is gone

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||(I hope onin loses next too)||

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but

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Ferps the Brazilian hero

umbral vigil
mortal pagoda
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coney goes crazy on the ad read

umbral vigil
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the coney shilling meta is unrivaled

fallen bolt
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is shuton v sonix being streamed?

umbral vigil
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only by ee can he be countered

umbral vigil
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thank god it isnt

shrewd smelt
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Im just saying

mortal pagoda
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did someone say coffee?? this tournament is sponsored by

fallen bolt
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true true

shrewd smelt
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WILD

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that ferps took leo to game 5 and took gluto only to game 4

mortal pagoda
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yeah

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leo had to warm up

fallen bolt
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i started watching the stream after church

umbral vigil
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gluto > leo

fallen bolt
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i didnt see sparg0 v sisqui

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did they not stream that?

umbral vigil
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unstreamed

mellow dawn
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they played?

mortal pagoda
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offstream

mellow dawn
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who won

umbral vigil
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3-1 sparg0

mellow dawn
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thank you

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time to talk shit

shrewd smelt
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Toodles at church

mortal pagoda
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lmao

shrewd smelt
fallen bolt
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who they worshipping

mortal pagoda
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mkleo

shrewd smelt
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mkJesus

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lol

fallen bolt
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lol

umbral vigil
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holy shit maister dabuz whoever loses gets 13th damn

red vesselBOT
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@umbral vigil has reached EXP level 18.

lyric estuary
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Just tuning in, any good sets?

shrewd smelt
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Kazyua

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Kazyua

mortal pagoda
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uh

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yeah

shrewd smelt
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steve

fallen bolt
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gluto survived

shrewd smelt
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so take that as you will

mortal pagoda
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miya showing good gnw play

umbral vigil
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kazuya kazuya steve steve

mortal pagoda
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ferps game 5 leo

fallen bolt
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thats all im concerned abt

umbral vigil
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literally all the streamed matches

mortal pagoda
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yeah

umbral vigil
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kazuya kazuya steve steve kazuya*

fallen bolt
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oh shit

shrewd smelt
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Yeah Ferps riddles, Onin, Acola

umbral vigil
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now maister dabuz

shrewd smelt
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WILD

fallen bolt
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no gnw ditto yet

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what if

mortal pagoda
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rip maister

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at least he had a good tweek set prolly

umbral vigil
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gnw ditto only if maister wins this & next sets while miya loses this set and wins the next

mortal pagoda
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yeah have fun with that

mellow dawn
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the only good sets so far been Leo/Ferps

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Miya/Onin was pretty decent too

fallen bolt
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iirc miya hasnt played spargo right?

mortal pagoda
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nope

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miya has played very few

umbral vigil
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miya onin was good but i was heartbroken

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this is miya's 2nd NA tournament

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1st being apex, which he won

fallen bolt
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miya catching minecart like fish

umbral vigil
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and qualified for SWT for

mortal pagoda
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swt is points

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he also farmed-ish japan

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not as much as acola but moderately enough

umbral vigil
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yeah he won g&w's first major

mortal pagoda
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tbf

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maister's bracket is way worse

umbral vigil
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jap major before maister

mortal pagoda
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at least this bracket

umbral vigil
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true maister is having a much tougher time

mortal pagoda
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tweek into dabuz? both of them been grinding him

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miya onin is like meh

umbral vigil
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tbf he took tweek to game 5 i wanna see how it came out

mortal pagoda
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although he is playing spargo next

umbral vigil
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with maister reverse 3-0 in mainstage and miya 3-0 here i think high level g&w is the counter to high level steve

mortal pagoda
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idk

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we haven't seen acola play the matchup and i feel like he knows it better

umbral vigil
#

true

mortal pagoda
#

just cuz miya

umbral vigil
#

it might just be onin's playstyle being weak to g&w

fallen bolt
#

im wont rlly focus on stream lol

mortal pagoda
#

yeah that's a possibility

fallen bolt
#

rooting for gluto and miya

mortal pagoda
#

he's kinda more stubborn

#

ie frustration dairs/carts

mellow dawn
#

fighting chars like GnW is also just hard af at top level because who are you going to practice with

umbral vigil
#

true

mortal pagoda
#

yeah

#

acola miya have only played once at a major apparently

#

but that's more than a lot of ppl

mellow dawn
#

no way they haven't played friendlies tho

slow belfry
#

whens melee

mortal pagoda
#

oh yeah they definitely

mortal pagoda
fallen bolt
#

they have played friendlies

umbral vigil
slow belfry
#

what's the other strem

mortal pagoda
#

same channel

slow belfry
#

o

#

New tech

#

2 strrams in same channel

fallen bolt
#

is shuton sonix done yet lmfao

mortal pagoda
#

dude i swear this has been around forever 😭

fallen bolt
#

oh it is

slow belfry
#

no shot

umbral vigil
mortal pagoda
#

dude i remember like

#

lofi hip hop radio for study and sleep being on the same channel i think lmaoo

umbral vigil
#

we got leo riddles tweek light acola shuton & sparg0 miya for r2

calm dove
#

Good morning

#

Is kazuya dead

mortal pagoda
#

also also yea acola miya playing in 6 brackets together overall, 3 total sets (2 being locals) + smashmate rankings + they're also like the same age so peers-ish

mortal pagoda
#

one foot in etc

calm dove
#

I won’t rest until he has 3 feet in

#

Oh the smash attack in neutral ditto

mortal pagoda
#

real

#

ok my bracket prediction is 100% accurate 🙏

fallen bolt
#

did you predict gluto not going 0-2

umbral vigil
#

yeah i dont think maister has a chance for here

mortal pagoda
#

yeah

fallen bolt
#

true

shrewd smelt
#

wait who beat maister?

fallen bolt
#

not yet

slow belfry
#

mele pawg fr man

fallen bolt
#

dabuz is 2-0 against maister so far

umbral vigil
#

tweek maister 3-2

shrewd smelt
#

Ah tweek

#

thanks

umbral vigil
#

dabuz up 2-0 rn

fallen bolt
#

maister tried the 9 combo xd

umbral vigil
fallen bolt
#

true

mortal pagoda
#

llod over kodorin and fiction over plup huh

umbral vigil
#

llod over kodorin unsuprising

#

llod is cracked af while literally being a doctor if he had time he'd be #1 in the world imo

mortal pagoda
#

maan

#

this is the world's longest 3-0 but close

fallen bolt
#

maister is 13th

#

rip

shrewd smelt
#

feels bad

mortal pagoda
#

yeah

umbral vigil
#

one mexican down

#

i think it's jdizzle sonix now

mortal pagoda
#

that would continue the trend ye

#

i guess sisqui onin offstream

shrewd smelt
#

bruh no way

#

Sisqui no

umbral vigil
#

i think they're getting all the losers r1 games on stream

mortal pagoda
#

hmm

#

perhaps

umbral vigil
#

ah sisqui onin first

mortal pagoda
#

neat

#

i really hope jdizzle sonix is onstream

umbral vigil
#

im hoping for jdizzle but i dont think he's gonna get out

shrewd smelt
#

sad we didnt get to see sisqui jdizzle set

umbral vigil
#

even if he wins v. sonix he still has to fight tweek or light afterwards

calm dove
#

I wanna see sonix jdizzle

mortal pagoda
#

i just wanna see what jdizzle does

umbral vigil
#

jdizzle was playing really well v. acola but yink cant beat blocks

mortal pagoda
#

double minecart ⁉️

shrewd smelt
#

yeah

#

I thought the same

mellow dawn
#

YL can beat blocks

#

Jdizzle just isn't that good at the MU

#

short hop bomb one-shots 3 block walls

#

he just didn't do the smash toss

umbral vigil
#

maybe but the way that played out jdizzle in advantage and disadvantage was amazing but in neutral was suffering

mellow dawn
#

yeah he needs more MU xp

mortal pagoda
#

those are some interesting interactions

umbral vigil
#

definitely think he could've made the upset of the tournament had he known better

mortal pagoda
#

surely samus has something that pierces blocks

umbral vigil
#

my best idea would be ftilt or dash attack

calm dove
#

Grab :)

mortal pagoda
#

i was thinking like

#

dtilt/fsmash right thru and hit steve

umbral vigil
#

back air if spaced right

#

ONIN NO

#

CLOSE IT OUT PLEASE

mortal pagoda
#

zamn..

umbral vigil
#

THANK GOD

mellow dawn
#

Samus actually struggles in this MU

shrewd smelt
#

haha he hit side b for the 15th time

#

gottem

mellow dawn
#

it's not super bad but she doesn't have a lot of moves to beat out blocks

mortal pagoda
#

yea it seems not great

umbral vigil
#

i think onin is an amazing player but he gets stuck doing some things over & over

mellow dawn
#

also the weird inconsistencies like CS beats minecart sometimes

#

i need to look deeper into it's properties but i think it has more health when he's in it

umbral vigil
lyric estuary
#

Why don't missiles break blocks, that's so weird

mellow dawn
#

so shit like that is just really hard to play around

mortal pagoda
#

tbh

umbral vigil
#

since charge microspecifics also changes kill confirms for samus

mortal pagoda
#

how different would the matchup be if you could missile and charge shot blocks at will

#

like any charge

umbral vigil
#

i think sv for onin here is trouble

umbral vigil
mellow dawn
#

if CS one-shotted blocks with 0 commitment man

#

i think Samus would still lose LOL

mortal pagoda
#

damn 💀

#

even with missiles?

umbral vigil
#

if like 1/3 charge would break 2 high and missles did damage steve wouldn't be able to set up

mellow dawn
#

CS is just so time consuming

umbral vigil
#

that's also true

#

man i love ee charles & coney for commentary

mortal pagoda
#

thrownin

umbral vigil
#

oh no

calm dove
#

That was awesome

mortal pagoda
#

sisqui throwing???

calm dove
#

?

mortal pagoda
#

bro does not wanna play smash

umbral vigil
#

oh no

calm dove
#

Revolutionizing the Steve MU honestly

umbral vigil
#

onin might lose this

#

sisqui starting to adapt and onin does not do that well for these

shrewd smelt
#

I think onin is carried

#

I love the kid

#

he is from my region

#

but I think because of steve, as you said

#

his adaptation skill isnt developed

#

because he doesnt really ever need to

#

just because steve forces you to play his way

#

so if someone CAN find a way around his stuff he REALLY struggles

umbral vigil
#

onin is so good but he's stubborn

shrewd smelt
#

(I hate saying people are carried though)

#

Oh yeah onin is REALLY good

#

but I think that is his weakest area for sure

umbral vigil
#

i just think if he started adapting and counter-adapting to his opponent he would definitely be a threat constantly

mortal pagoda
#

i think sisqui has had an ass record against steve so lowkey he's doing well

umbral vigil
#

imo when onin starts adapting he's going to be better than acola

mortal pagoda
#

i give that an if ngl

umbral vigil
#

WHAT

mortal pagoda
#

average steve set 💀

#

remember when samus could clip thru the stage

#

oof di

umbral vigil
#

the di mixup smart

#

jdizzle sonix

mortal pagoda
#

letsgoo

umbral vigil
#

rooting for the man down under

mortal pagoda
#

hot set alert and all that

#

ngl its prolly not gonna be a hot set but still

umbral vigil
#

true

shrewd smelt
#

nothing related to the game

umbral vigil
#

but i want jdizzle to win

shrewd smelt
#

but I think this is too funny not to share

umbral vigil
#

wrong image

umbral vigil
#

i think jdizzle is only suffering of mu inexperience

#

he's clearly an amazing player but only losing to mu inexperience

shrewd smelt
#

honestly

#

I think he isnt even losing

#

like he is kinda goin nuts

umbral vigil
#

no im mainly talking about him v. onin

shrewd smelt
#

the only thing scary he is doing is the dairs

mortal pagoda
#

yeah dude is playing it out quite well

shrewd smelt
#

OH my b

umbral vigil
#

right now it's pretty even and despite the struggles this mus proposes for yink he's playing it really well

#

imo sbf should replace ps2

mellow dawn
#

what's this is so frustration 💀

umbral vigil
#

what?

mellow dawn
#

just seeing how he navigates Sonic

#

or rather, how he doesn't

#

he's respecting spin dash soooo much

#

and then those full hops to read spin dash and try to kill him for it

umbral vigil
#

even if sonix wins this i think he's gonna be out to tweek/light depending on the result of the next one

shrewd smelt
#

I feel like for theis in particular

#

the point isnt even winning

#

its just getting the super top level experience

mellow dawn
#

Jdizzle has been traveling a lot for xp yeah

shrewd smelt
#

so I feel ike it is a reward in its own to fight light or tweek

mellow dawn
#

Tweek and Sonix are actually practice partners!

mortal pagoda
#

i think the smart option from most of these 0-2ers is to just grind

mellow dawn
#

Maister in shambles

shrewd smelt
#

Maister

#

the classic 0-2 player

mortal pagoda
#

listen man idk what's goin on with maister 💀 bro just cannot catch a break

fallen bolt
#

i like how ferps gets invited, takes mkleo to game 5 and dips

shrewd smelt
#

xD

mortal pagoda
#

but like ppl like jdizzle and ferps could easily just grind with these guys

shrewd smelt
#

Yo Chef

mortal pagoda
#

they won't be bracket threats so if someone just needs to keep warm or smth why not

shrewd smelt
#

what is the point of young links

mellow dawn
#

Jdizzle once again taking 3 games to get comfy but i like it 😄

shrewd smelt
#

that pull teh bombs super early

mellow dawn
#

i hope it stays consistent though

shrewd smelt
#

and drop them at the landing of the angel plat

#

even though invincibility is NOWHERE near done

mortal pagoda
#

to be annoying

mellow dawn
#

just needa press a button sorry

mortal pagoda
#

also sometimes the opponent might accidentally pick it up

#

also true

#

my thing is just tossing bombs everywhere

umbral vigil
#

still salty that because of swt cancel middle east still doesnt get chance to shine

shrewd smelt
#

okay I just see ALL of them do it, same as like tink, etc

mellow dawn
#

i have never thought much about it, i always pickup bombs and spam izac nair idk why

shrewd smelt
#

but like it doesnt do anything

mellow dawn
#

just buttons clicky

shrewd smelt
#

Fair enough lol

mortal pagoda
#

ppl like practicing their techy stuff

shrewd smelt
#

never knew if there was a reasoning behind it

mortal pagoda
#

esp if they haven't been doing it

shrewd smelt
#

same as like snake cooking grenades for no reason

mellow dawn
#

it might be so ppl pick it up but i dk dawg

umbral vigil
#

might just be to keep hands warm

mortal pagoda
#

i mean it is smart to lay them around for opponents

#

but maybe they just have poor timing

shrewd smelt
#

but they have invincibility always

mellow dawn
#

god that soft nair > bair was sexy

mortal pagoda
#

yeah

#

it seems really good cuz it also catches jump

shrewd smelt
#

It has the same vibe as a samus who wins the game but starts to charge another charge shot as the opponent free falls to their death

mortal pagoda
#

that one's just out of habit

umbral vigil
#

like you see light do those shffl bairs to keep momentum going

mellow dawn
#

bruh

mortal pagoda
#

goddamn

umbral vigil
#

noooooo

shrewd smelt
#

F

mortal pagoda
#

sonix advantage state

mellow dawn
#

all of that happened...because he did boomerang in neutral

#

and this is why i do not advocate for boomerang in neutral

#

granted he could've played disadvantage better but

#

THAT MOVE IS FRAME 26

#

in practice, that's such a disrespectful callout to make on Sonic LOL

mortal pagoda
#

woo

#

leo riddles!!

umbral vigil
#

leo!!

#

o no

mortal pagoda
#

this is such a crazy game 1

shrewd smelt
#

that wa the FIRST timer Ive seen someone edge guard byleth up b

mellow dawn
#

this mf looks so happy fighting Kazuya

shrewd smelt
mellow dawn
#

i wish i had his mentality cause i'd be mad af 😭

shrewd smelt
#

Cracks me up

mortal pagoda
#

dude leo faces go crazy this bracket

#

he was pullin em vs ferps too

shrewd smelt
#

probably because kazyua is goofy AF

mortal pagoda
#

oh yea he's pulling a lot more up b dairs now

#

ok riddles??

calm dove
#

Good night

mortal pagoda
#

good night maddy

mellow dawn
#

losing with Kazuya is a choice at this point

umbral vigil
#

oh no

shrewd smelt
#

MARTH

umbral vigil
#

LEO MARTH

shrewd smelt
#

MADDY WAIT

mortal pagoda
#

Bruh

umbral vigil
#

EL CLASSICO

mellow dawn
#

MY GOAT??

mortal pagoda
#

ok leo 💀

umbral vigil
#

LETS GO LEO

mellow dawn
#

fucking DA confirms

#

THE BUFFS

umbral vigil
#

all 3 of you marth mains take notes

mellow dawn
#

i can't believe he knows the DA confirms

#

he really been practicing lol

mortal pagoda
#

tasbot marth

mellow dawn
#

BRO HE HIT THE TIPPER SIDE B YOU KNOW HOW HARD THAT IS

mortal pagoda
#

bro has been mad practicing

mellow dawn
#

WHAT THE HELL

shrewd smelt
#

There was a marth in the grands of my arcadian last night too

mortal pagoda
#

he lost to marth

calm dove
#

Okay I saw Marth and stayed

shrewd smelt
#

INSANE Im getting 2 marths in 2 days

mellow dawn
#

HE IS HITTING ALL THE FUCKING MARTH COMBOS STOP

#

IS THIS

#

THE BEST MARTH?

umbral vigil
#

when l4st said "he plays marth during friendlies sometimes" BRO HE IS THE BEST MARTH OF ALL TIME

mortal pagoda
#

lmao

shrewd smelt
#

Where is pugwest when you need him

mortal pagoda
#

i'm pretty sure lucina downward angle side b 4 stuns kazuya but not marth

umbral vigil
#

HOW IS THIS MAN SO GOOD WITH MARTH

shrewd smelt
#

MY STREAM DIED

#

FUCK NO MY INTENRET IS DEAD

mortal pagoda
#

bro is actually the future of smash wtf

umbral vigil
#

BRO HOW DO YOU PLAY SO WELL YOU MAKE KAZUYA HAVE TO KILL AT 150

#

THOSE TIPPERS

mortal pagoda
#

he found his stride

#

and it's just marth again 💀

umbral vigil
#

oh no

mortal pagoda
#

sparks at center from 80??

#

holy marth bro

umbral vigil
#

LEOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

mellow dawn
#

THIS MAN IS JUST HAVING FUN LIKE

#

DO YOU SEE HOW NERVOUS RIDDLES IS

#

HE IS SHAKING

umbral vigil
#

WHAT ON EARTHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

mellow dawn
#

😭 mf just smiling bro

calm dove
#

Funniest shit I’ve ever seen

mortal pagoda
#

leo is just having fun

lyric ice
#

Dude knows he's sick

calm dove
#

Meme template incoming

mortal pagoda
#

and honestly i'm all for it

lyric ice
#

Probably hard not to smile

mellow dawn
#

and he's going on one of Kazuya's best stages lol

mortal pagoda
#

yeah i wonder how soundproof this is

#

tipper dair?? hello??

shrewd smelt
#

the Dair followup[

mortal pagoda
#

honestly

#

i don't think u can even pull marth in like pools lowkey cuz u gotta be familiar

umbral vigil
#

LEO????????

#

LEOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

shrewd smelt
#

MK MIOTEHRFUCKIN LEO

mortal pagoda
#

holy shit leo

umbral vigil
#

WHO COULD DOUBT HIMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM

mortal pagoda
#

riddles just getting wiped 😭

shrewd smelt
#

EE: "WHO THE FUCK DO YOU THINK I AM BITCH"

calm dove
#

He did it WITHOUT A K POP TAG

lyric ice
#

Let's go

calm dove
#

I think

mortal pagoda
#

true!!

lyric ice
#

Good set good set

umbral vigil
#

MOTHER FUCKING LEOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

#

nah idfc abt tweek light rn in comparison LEO

shrewd smelt
#

unironically

#

I have goosebumps right now

mellow dawn
#

man

#

i can't even like

mortal pagoda
#

that was actually the most insane set

umbral vigil
#

im shaking and im just fucking watching

shrewd smelt
#

THAT IS ALL HE SAYD

#

I LOVE leo

lyric ice
#

I sleep when I see Leo byleth but the Marcus Tippuh was fun to watch

umbral vigil
#

how the fuck do you not just leave the venue if you're riddles

mortal pagoda
#

that was filthy

#

only leo can do that

#

now riddles has to fight onin 💀

lyric ice
#

He's gotta play in losers he can't leave yet

slow belfry
#

what'd he say

shrewd smelt
#

LOL RIDDLES ONIN

#

The PROPHECY

mortal pagoda
#

oh light tweek is now

umbral vigil
#

ok back to normal games

shrewd smelt
#

"speaking of Melee, we have diddy coming up"

mortal pagoda
#

huh

#

tweek on his seph shit?

umbral vigil
#

why cant tweek be on his pt shit...

shrewd smelt
#

I feel like seph is HORRIBLE in this matchup, no?

slow belfry
#

Wouldnt it be dope if both no. 1 in mele and ult were both maths

mortal pagoda
#

i think both sides say they're ass in the matchup

slow belfry
#

Marths

mortal pagoda
#

but i mean if tweek's feeling it why not

shrewd smelt
#

WII FIT IS THAT YOU

mortal pagoda
#

these are some nairo octoslashes wtf

shrewd smelt
#

dude how wild would it have been

#

if Nairo, Zero, Samsora, Salem, Ally Got invited to this tourney

mortal pagoda
#

also

#

version 4!

umbral vigil
#

TRUE V4

mortal pagoda
#

ok tweek i see u

#

i kinda dont wanna see him tho cuz i have light predicted to win 🙈

umbral vigil
#

light doesn't have any secondaries right?

mortal pagoda
#

nothing at this level

#

he beat like

#

ling with sora

#

that's kinda it

umbral vigil
#

ah

mortal pagoda
#

that was also month 1 sora

shrewd smelt
#

WHIP OUT THE LITTLE MAC

mortal pagoda
#

not the mac 💀

umbral vigil
#

for a second i heard rob and i got scared

mortal pagoda
#

tweek miiiight get reverse 3-0'd

mortal pagoda
#

go tweek!!

umbral vigil
#

light reverse 3-0

lyric estuary
#

Wait did mcleo play marf

umbral vigil
#

yes

mortal pagoda
#

yeah

shrewd smelt
#

yessir

umbral vigil
#

he reverse 3-0'd riddles

lyric estuary
#

Yooooooooo

shrewd smelt
#

Why would you say that

lyric estuary
#

Riddles????????

shrewd smelt
#

why would you lie to parz like that

mortal pagoda
#

games... 4 and 5 marth i think

#

he was 1-2 before that tho

umbral vigil
#

and he hit the tightest, most beautiful tippers

lyric estuary
#

Oh ic

mortal pagoda
#

i think it was leo riddles x2 leo x2?

umbral vigil
#

maybe

shrewd smelt
#

nah

#

Leo played at LEAST 2 games of marth

mortal pagoda
#

yeah leo x2 for games 4/5

umbral vigil
#

light tweek rn, tweek with seph up 2-1

shrewd smelt
#

I know this is porbably dumbbut imagine is leo played seph

mortal pagoda
#

he could

shrewd smelt
#

imagine the PRECISION

umbral vigil
#

damn

#

acola shuton now

mortal pagoda
#

sephiroth 📈

umbral vigil
#

sadly

lyric estuary
#

Leo playing Marth Tweek playing seph

What is going on

umbral vigil
#

tweek on version 4 too, he upgraded

shrewd smelt
#

Yeah and Sonix played little mac

#

👀

umbral vigil
shrewd smelt
#

||I'm lying||

umbral vigil
#

thank god

shrewd smelt
#

LOL

#

Going from Sonix

#

to

#

Max

umbral vigil
#

im going to be honest i never heard tweek's voice before this i did not expect him to sound like this

mortal pagoda
#

i think it fits him

#

but idk what the other options are

umbral vigil
#

the first player to use their tag as their tag

mortal pagoda
#

using ur tag as a tag is so

#

meh

umbral vigil
#

true

#

but i have mine v. similar

mortal pagoda
#

they can get away with it too

#

cuz like they're top level! you know who they are!

lyric estuary
#

No aegis...inch resting

umbral vigil
#

hex -> x

mortal pagoda
#

he's prolly tried both

lyric estuary
#

Hm true

mortal pagoda
#

tbh

#

i wanna see more japanese players vs na steves

#

cuz i swear it's always them vs acola instead at na majors

umbral vigil
#

well we saw miya onin

mortal pagoda
#

true

#

that one was cool

#

ok here we go

umbral vigil
#

loser fights dabuz btw

mortal pagoda
#

oh wow uh

#

shuton has only played 1 game of aegis vs acola specifically

#

he got 2 stocked that game 🗿

fallen bolt
#

NAHHH

red vesselBOT
#

@fallen bolt has reached EXP level 7.

umbral vigil
#

SHUTON

fallen bolt
#

SHUTON

#

CHILL THE HELL OUT

mortal pagoda
#

yeah ok

#

this is a different shuton

fallen bolt
#

which kind

umbral vigil
#

shuton lowercase this time

mortal pagoda
#

oh huh it is

#

prolly no more smash stick

#

also holy shit peep this ad

fallen bolt
#

box hungry

mortal pagoda
#

kinda crazy that like he just can't go fd lmao

umbral vigil
#

argentina box

mortal pagoda
#

unless he braves out idk olimar kazuya on fd

#

ok fuck me nvm

#

i guess no more kazuya

fallen bolt
#

shuton is not fucking around anymore

#

xd

mortal pagoda
#

pyra sure does Okay

#

ok shuton

fallen bolt
#

acola seems a tadbit rusty imo

#

i dont see the acola momentum rn

#

and i cant tell if hes panicking or not

#

in upclose interactions against pyra

umbral vigil
#

a tad bit rusty but not for long

mortal pagoda
#

shuton still got it

fallen bolt
#

game 5

#

didnt acola and shuton play each other before?

mortal pagoda
#

yeah

#

never this much aegis tho

fallen bolt
#

shuton played more olimar than aegis in the 2 previous sets they played?

mortal pagoda
#

bro shuton lowkey stylin

mortal pagoda
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only 1 game of aegis at all prior

fallen bolt
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ah

umbral vigil
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the steve counter is japan not g&w or pythra

mortal pagoda
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yeah acola is just nair dodging

umbral vigil
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true

fallen bolt
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oh no

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shuton sd

mortal pagoda
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shuton throwing??

umbral vigil
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NOOOOO

fallen bolt
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dont do it shuton😭

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axe broke

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convenient for now

umbral vigil
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NOOOOOOOOOO

mortal pagoda
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poor shuton

fallen bolt
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oh shit

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acola vs dabuz in losers

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did dabuz play any other sets vs acola besides summit?

mortal pagoda
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acola won

finite heath
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mac leo!?!!

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martholomew?!

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I am getting caught up