Experimental 1.20 Datapack on Server

[simple compass]

From #bulletin message.

In my opinion, I'd say yes, as I did some personal testing client-side and had no errors so far. But I did not try it with Incendium and Nullscape, only Terralith.

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[oak moat]

What does this meanM

Like the server would use a 1.20 beta datapack?

[simple compass]

Also use the experimental 1.20 datapack on the server while everyone waits for the 1.20 update

like have the cherry logs and sniffer and stuff

[oak moat]

Hmmmmmm

[simple compass]

oh wait

[oak moat]

I'll see what my group says

[simple compass]

that means no trail runs and sus sand/gravel

[oak moat]

So no Archeology at all?

[simple compass]

until new chunks get pregen for 1.20

[oak moat]

I haven't played through 1.20 at all been stuck on 1.19.4

[simple compass]

same

[oak moat]

Wait so the world is gonna expand?

Is that why the its 60k in every direction

[simple compass]

yea

[oak moat]

Fuckkkk

[simple compass]

lol

[oak moat]

I'm gonna have to build so much more roads 😭😭

Some guys is gonna base in a corner and request a ice way to his place

[simple compass]

real

[oak moat]

How much of an expansion?

[simple compass]

Unsure of that, will probably discuss with the mods once we get closer for an 1.20 update for the server

[oak moat]

Damn

Oh well I guess ice ways will not reach the corners of the server

[vivid torrent]

the cons would occur anyway without experimental datapack so I wouldn’t include that

In the future would the server be able to upgrade to 1.20 with the terralith stuff?

[simple compass]

I was able to update on client-side but I need to test it out server-side

[vivid torrent]

because if yes I see no reason why we shouldn’t say yes

again the stated cons would occur without the experimental datapack anyway

[simple compass]

true, those stuff is for the actual 1.20 update

[crystal finch]

Yeah it would basically be between some 1.20 stuff or none

[simple compass]

removed the pros and cons list

[vivid torrent]

the no’s should quickly be pushed away by the yeses

it is true what I said though

[mint dirge]

will the experimental patreon only datapacks be added?

[young jasper]

they don't work with the 1.20 datapack, only 1.20 itself

no

[dire sierra]

Are there any problems going from the 1.20 data pack to 1.20 itself

[mint dirge]

what

[young jasper]

Kuma did testing to make sure there were no issues (and we will do further testing to be sure)

the only difference: do you want 1.20 stuff early (even though we're not on 1.20), or would yall rather wait til full release

there are no cons

[bright slate]

If you end up doing this I suggest adding a shop that can sell the things we cannot get like sherds and very expensive armor trims

Maybe sniffer eggs too

[dire sierra]

That or just expand the border by a little bit so we can get the new things at the edge of the world

[vivid torrent]

All armor trims are obtainable

Loot tables generate after worldgen, only once the player opens the chest with it

[bright slate]

Trail ruins trims aren’t

[bright slate]

This solution works better

[vivid torrent]

Trail ruins aren’t a thing in the 1.19.4 experimental datapack

they came in 1.20 snapshots

[bright slate]

Ohh

[vivid torrent]

I think that’s already planned for 1.20

[vivid torrent]

Upgrading from the 1,19.4 experimental 1.20 datapack to actual 1.20

[distant siren]

Personally, it doesn't matter since none of the 1.20 blocks would even be used in my base (except maybe the bookshleves) so unless a bunch of other want it...

[vivid torrent]

i just really want trims and all the qol features

[distant siren]

ohhh yeah the trims i forgot about that

but i can wait

[vivid torrent]

i mean i see no downside

we could get them now

if we do it later all the chests we looted from structures would have been useless

again loot tables only generate when opening the chest

[simple compass]

I just sherded

[dire sierra]

If no problems emerge I’m down with this

[oak moat]

Kuma how much do you plan to open the world border

For 1.20

[simple compass]

.

[oak moat]

Oh I didn't see that message

[primal remnant]

nope

we won't have Silence

or the ones from Trail Ruins

[vivid torrent]

i was referring to the ones we'd be having on s2

the recent poll is about 1.19.4 experimental datapack, not 1.20

[primal remnant]

ah

[primal remnant]

if you do decide to go this route remind me to make a custom version of rebalanced loot with smithing templates as the 1.19.4 version doesn't have them

[simple compass]

I’ll probably wait till Tuesday to decide

[bright slate]

Also your trimmable tools datapack can be used

[oak moat]

DEICDE NOW

[young jasper]

deicde

[vivid torrent]

required resource pack

[bright slate]

I forgot

[simple compass]

u forgor

[dire sierra]

He forgor

[simple compass]

💀

[bright slate]

I did in fact, forgor

[dire sierra]

Do wandering traders give cherry saplings?

[simple compass]

Probably not but I can use a plugin to edit the wandering trader’s trades

[vivid torrent]

this would be very nice

[bright slate]

Would be very appreciated

[simple compass]

Yeah the plugin is nice since it can have the trader sell mini blocks and player heads

[sullen grail]

the fact its a plugin not a datapack makes me sad

[young jasper]

plugins are more powerful than datapacks in this sort of thing

[simple compass]

Hi Apollo, when you have the time, would you make this please? Thanks!

[young jasper]

must be done in 2 hours (jk no rush :3 )

[oak moat]

S2 releases today confirmed

[young jasper]

S2 releases 2009

[simple compass]

And October 18

[vivid torrent]

no

any opportunity there is where a plugin does what a datapack does should be taken

[young jasper]

plugins can technically do custom worldgen

[vivid torrent]

can it do it as good as a datapack though?

[young jasper]

oh, absolutely not

[vivid torrent]

[young jasper]

its on the level of postgen

[vivid torrent]

any opportunity where a plugin does what a datapack does intends its on the same level

[sullen grail]

terralith 1.16.5 plugin when

[vivid torrent]

HORROR

yknow i dont hate postgen

but when i tried using it recently it caused weird lighting issues

so i thanos snapped that

[simple compass]

[simple compass]

Thanks!

[primal remnant]

lmk if there's any invalid loot tables; there shouldn't be, but just in case lol

[simple compass]

Will do

[01:30:56 ERROR]: Couldn't parse loot table minecraft:chests/desert_pyramid
[01:30:56 ERROR]: Couldn't parse loot table minecraft:chests/abandoned_mineshaft

Seems like those don't have any loot

@primal remnant those errors appear upon server boot and I did check the chests in those structures and they're all empty

[primal remnant]

ohhh

ok i know the issue

[primal remnant]

try this

[simple compass]

Give me a moment

Okay no errors and the loot loads fine for those two structures!

Thanks Apollo!

[oak moat]

Np

[primal remnant]

[oak moat]

[bright slate]

Just gonna guess. 1.20 datapack is a go

Right?

[oak moat]

No

[simple compass]

You should check #1114065881920704542

[bright slate]

Uhh

Is that message link correct?

It’s not showing me anything

[simple compass]

It’s the pinned forum post in #1078096687739961524

[bright slate]

Ok

It definitely broke

[simple compass]

Weird

Silly discord

https://discord.com/channels/738046951236567162/1114065881920704542

[oak moat]

Works for me

[bright slate]

This one works