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Guys the ps4 apocalypse is going to wipe when??
what happend to all the fibercraft servers
is there an discord for arkpocalypse ? Sorry if it was already said before
when arkpoc coming online?
should be very soon bro
yooo im the 400% melee guy
yeah bro i remember haha
feh arab hna?
Yo when are geting the offical smalls down
Does the melee on a magmasaur matter for damaging structures? Or is it the same dmg
if you melee it should, otherwise no
Using the fire blast
.
range attacks shouldn't be effected by melee %
what is arkpoc
Are the big bear traps good for base Defense?
yes
русские есть ?
guys anybody plays in arkpocalypse
Oh yeah
On my way to raid your base now actually
@vapid abyss tell your enforcer team to stop being useless and go check the tickets, ppl cant be spinning with astro for 10h and no one is doing a shit
REQUEST #2476766
That’ll make it quicker lol,officials ends in a few weeks why stress over it💀
Can i point farm for anyone smalls for giga breeding pair and stego breeding pair will need giga to farm im starting fresh Xbox
They're legit not even paying attention to the servers at this point. Pretty much every gen2 tribe on poc right now is in the mesh.
How to counter people raiding on a stego with a rocket launcher breaking turret wall?
A tribe of 6 ppl is fobbing on my H pillar with cheats
Looking for tribemembers. Xbox. Good at pvp dm
lft 1x
Net the stego, grab it with karki, put tek turrets on only survivors, put bear trap if they cant destroy it, if you are on official then you can weight grapple it
Once u grabbed it with karki get off it and bite with a thyla
If u live in a cave then put floating tek turrets on the top with hatchframes
And switch them to only survivors
and what if your offline
G
lookin for people for arkpoc pc steam
Can i hex farm for a stego giga and bloodstalker pair im on xbox will need a giga to farm as i am starting fresh smalls
Is there any compensation available for the damage that rendering old gen console players is doing to my console? Pretty obvious by them skipping around the screen that they shouldn't be on here anymore.
Could sb tell me the best way to get pop steam servers I’m new to steam.
I'm not new to ark but i've mostly done pve, so in pvp why do tribes all leave their tames on passive like to me it makes more sense to have the on neutral and attack back
usually because they want to keep breeders organized, if they arnt on passive they can attack corpses of babys and get all messed up. alot of tribes do keep agressives in cave entrences and whatnot tho
adding to what the other guy said, it's also because tames could be attacked, and depending on where you are, enemy could bait your dinos into killing them outside the turret range, it's also a pain for breeder as to not to have to replace every dinos if something/someone attack.
When ark 1.5 come ?
Ark mobile?
Some time in October was last release announcement
What about it ? There is a Ark mobile discord if you want a inv to that
No need
Many hackers there
I played yesterday my team invite hacker and now i got ban to
Its fuckt
Which prevviewmode is the best for pvp?
Give me your better ARK private pvp serv on pc please 👀 !
Can i hex farm for a stego giga and bloodstalker pair im on xbox will need a giga to farm as i am starting fresh smalls
What would the 3 most popular maps be for PvP servers?
rag/the island/fjordur/gen 2
What’s the best way to counter the plant species X. I’m thinking rockets but idk
Depending how strong your Dino’s are you can just rush them and munch em a lot of times,back in the day people would back brontos up and tailswipe em..flaming them with a tek bow or flame arrows is also a option
fire arrow
center, gen2, fjordur
hello i need help for something on fjordur
anyone need someone to farm wood or metal for them ps4
shit i can’t put screen
Is there a way to see the upload timer without being at a drop
anyone got a good server for a returning player
Tek gauntlets,idn what button is it on pc ,but in Xbox u hold the back button and it shows in the corner
How do people fly in gen2 when they are overweight
Could i take damage from turrets while riding a stego
Anyone want to play a wipe of ARKpocalypse w/ me?
Anyone know how to forge drop
yo i can duo
yea
i got a couple
looking for ppl to play with smalls lvl 100 min
prefer to have tekgrams too
pvp is nothing but cheater/exploiter vs cheater/exploiter
pve is better
sorry forgot to add duper/rmt'er/mesher/exploiter/hacker vs the same
On official but unofficial pvp is way better
exactly
official pvp superior pvp
official pvp is for masochists
Anything you can do on 1x I can do on 15x but better
and people that think they're better than everyone else
not even close
Come show me on the cluster I play on then
@wanton musk yeah cuz spinners on 1x and smalls make the game fun
indeed
hello, if I want to raid a raft that’s in the end of the map, can I put a c4 in a wild dino? And then explode it right beside the raft, or is there a better way
Pretty sure the turrets will still shoot the c4. If there's turrets.
Were auto-decay timers on official too short and brutal? Surviving solo i probably lost far more stuff to decay timers than anything else, easiest way to survive was to have lots of different spots but being forced to carefully visiting each of them every few days was tedious and dangerous.
Also the decay timers caused lots of maps to be extremely barren, no ancient bases to discover as some interesting archaeological find. I understand a big purpose for the timer is to manage spam but I think it also made things kinda sucky
Arkpoc wiping on September 30th. Do they mean the wipe starts or ends on that day?
Upload timers and cryosickness the real bad guys. Bases decaying is understandable.
official is going down in sept 30th
how is anyone even playing this game with all the cheaters on official wth
they are just part of the game now sadly
bop
Most cheaters are even to dumb to cheat as they suck at the game and still die
when did arkpoc last wipe?
The 8th
Imagine raiding sub alpha then going to get alphas and get kicked bc the alphas are a donor tribe😭 fallenark servers a joke
that sounds so sad..
so true
would ya like a replacement for the quetz also meing able to fight wyvs toe to toe yet with a platform sad to c4 fobs
or too broken
I am looking for servers that supply you with a kit and to just practice pvp do these exist?
Mts arena
is it normal that every server on steam is dead?
What's the tribe cap for smalltribes
6
Watch me on Twitch YesImCompass I'm defending official server
anyone know the deal with ps4-5 servers shutting down at the end of the month? sounds like there will be a delay between shut down an ascendent
All official servers are shutting down on the 30th and there’s almost guaranteed to be a window where there’s no official before Asa launches. The odds of them launching on October 1st are slim to none.
thank you. I suspected that might be the case. hopefully doesn't take 2 years to start up official servers again
Where can I see the setting for clasic servers? Don't mean rates, but like available maps, available engrams/tekgrams, map, special dino spawn(if there are any), etc ? Not finding anything on website or discord..
Reminder that Classic is shutting down in... like, 17 days.
Thanks a bunch. Yes yes, thats just fine
Am pro turret base
Am pro turret soaker 100 stego
I'm playing jungle fever pve easy.can someone message admin to message me please.i cant find jungle fever on discord channel. Thank you
What does everyone think the meta base locations on the island are gonna be in asa? Will ice cave still be relevant or something else?
Yeah ice cave pretty sure it’s gonna be impossible to mesh in asa
Even if theres no cryopods?
Depends if there’s cryos, if there are cryos it’s gonna be ice cave, pack cave, easy underwater and just the usual caves people build in. If there’s no cryos then people will still probably build in caves but they will need breeding outposts until they get transmitters
Because once people get transmitters people are just gonna download dinos in their caves
Can I get my body back if it clips through the mesh
How deep is it?
I dont know, I got on dead, tribe logs said i died like 3 minutes ago, but the beam is there and there is nothing at it.
Try pressing g as close as you can to where you think the body is to try and drag it. If that doesn’t work and it’s not above you it’s probably a goner.
Maybe try harvesting the spot with a tame?
That can make it a bag which will place in a spot that makes sense
I will try that
👍
Should I have my auto turrets set to players and tames or just players? Or should the turrets on the top be set to players only
A few on players only rest on players and tames.
anyone wanna zerg a server rn its a windows 10 fiber im js doin it cz im bored
so what server am i going to to say goodbye to ark 1
some guys has base on d40 crystal isles 829 OC official pvp
keeps hunting us bobs he's solo too
with his little shadowmane that he bought
Will 2 or 3 man tribes eventually be added to ASA?
I don’t see that being added since they already have smalls officials servers but you never know .if anything im sure there will be some people hosing dedi servers like that
any good pvp wipes this weekend?
who else likes raiding snow crouch on island?
Anyone know where I can find info on the final arkpoc wipe
Monthly wipes
Final one
I’m assuming next month?
Sept 8-30 is the final poc. It's already started unless that's only PS.
Nah finally ark classic and poc ends at 30th September
Than all offical server go down
I didn't. Know ps had arkpoc wtf did they do to xbox and win 10
Asa will be fun for official fr
Hello everyone does anyone know any active unofficial pvp servers on steam by any chance?
Yo anyone got a good pvp server I can play on? Official or unofficial
Hi guys I'm a returning player and is looking for a group. I have forgotten some of the mechanics
Just wait for asa to drop
What is asa?
Ark evolved remaster pretty much but with full crossplat,mods on all systems, and upgraded Unreal engine
Dear devs please add change to turret settings to specially tek and specifically heavy like add an option where you can set all heavy turrets to players only and set all teks to all targets etc
Arkland PvP
can i join someones team dm me if i can
wot server should i play on as a beginner?
Did they mention any bug/exploit fixes coming to ASA?
Good question but I sincerely hope that we patch at least the mesh with the ini file which removes the water from the foliage 
who want duo on pvp
Dreyma
Need some advice for pvp building dm pls if you want to help out
Hey everyone nice to meet you all I know I’m late to the party but just started playing ark with my best mate we both new so so much to learn! We are playing on a private server atm just trying to learn but looking at trying out PvP maybe lol but when ascendant is out! Would love to get to know some of you learn some stuff ext we are super chill I’m at work currently but looking forward to this journey!
Hey anyone know if arkpoc is gonna have its last wipe on the 30th or this wipe is the last
"son u know once u start theres no going back"
Where can i build on rag that has big space and can defend
Yup XD downloaded it 3 days ago already at 52 hours lol and I’m just messing around and dying lol I’m on a private server though
if anyone free at any point to show me and my mate some things id apprciate it
nice to meet you!!
REAL
ark is addicting af
and you my g
Pvp 😭😭🤌🤌 , i have to defend my base from school on my cromebook
@rocky trail welcome to ark pvp. first thing you learn, everything you have is destroyable and will be raided eventually
if ur not down to lose it, don't play pvp
If anyones got a private server on Xbox or windows give me a message I’ll join
any popular unofficial servers with no mods?
You aren't allowed to sleep if you play on pvp
Skill issue, I sleep like a baby
Hey, curious if anyone has a server with only a few mods, what they are not much of a concern just don't want to wait an hour to install them all, if anyone has a server I'm more than open to join
what do i do if my characcter is stuck in some meshole on crystal isles
Looking for a pvp cluster that’s old school no tek if anyone has one please dm me thank u
kill the char and come back and get ur stuff..
im trying to build a base in carno cave, where should the core be?
lol BOT
anyone playing LDL eu 216 and looking for a tribemate
im new to the game lol
Not you bro, but cool you’ll get addicted for sure quit now. 😄 but in Ark new players are called noobs lol enjoy bro
can anyone help me prepare a raid?
coulda swore we called them beach bobs
They’re 100% called bobs in Ark
Bob and noobs are the same except for certain kinds
Inside the cave
A noob can be better than a Bob but a Bob can’t be better than a noob
its not that deep 😭
Fax
Bobs are pretty cool 😎
who want to join me on pvp?
Does small tribe servers get released with 1x servers for ASA.
How long do servers usually take to get back up? I was playing a few hours ago and suddenly got dc, server disappeared my friend tried to join and he got a text that said the server had coders or something and it still isnt back up.
Anyone play on fjord ? Any way to keep someone from not teleporting when you have them handcuffed and in a bed/chair
Yo
If he unconscious won't teleport
@midnight geyser yeah I noticed that lol, been feeding him for an hour lmaoo
Just was hoping for a different way.
Hmmmn grapple him
Wym? Wish I was able to send a screen shot lol cuz I’ve got him in a special jail I made and just been feeding him while he’s on the floor lmao he mad tho
Just sucks to keep feeding him
It’s like I’m raising a human rn
And every time I let him up… he try’s to tele and I shoot him in the face with a dart
I think if you just grapple him he won't be able to tp as you holding to him.
Although you can try this as your last step if you not bothered anymore
I’ll give that a shot Ty
Welcome 🙂
no problem
hi
hi
pvp is so toxic everyone calls you names
why can't people be polite when they fight you. "good shot sir" "you are doing so well" "nice defense"
"despite failing to defend we just took what we wanted, have a wonderful day"
People do that all the time
Most of the time it's "omg you're a bob uninstall you suck"
and then I break down and cry
come play togeter
i got called the n-word 3 times on my first day in pvp
the people who play pvp yes i have never seen that in pve let alone in 1 day
im not saying all of pvp is like that but theres just a lot of bad eggs
PvE people do it too man.
only alpha males play pvp
when the ark closed ?
September 30th
me? i dont play pvp and i dont have ark installed rn
ye ofc its just a hell of a lot more common on pvp
September…..30th……..
Any server if find a good enough base spot
I joined a pve server crashed it with titans and got called every slur in existence
lmao
what base locations have both land and water?
enough to breed more than 10 tusos lol
On what map?
any map
besides gen1
ofc besides the big caves like hard or pearl
bc those r taken lol
Oh
hell no im not gonna wear a gasmask in my base lol
Haz helm…
It don’t take durability from the gas
a fabi could easily break hazmat...
Are you already tek tier?
yes
dont even say it im not using a forcefield
Don’t have to
y did u ask if i was tek tier then?
Jsut go live in a in underwater tek base on the centre
Carno cave
Carno pack and hunter and clever lol
If u build in clever I pray u get wiped
y?
ive never heard of clever cave....
is it bad or something?

WHAT is the max cap lvl for lava golem
Bobbiest cave on the island
Does small tribe servers get released with 1x servers for ASA.
any tips for pvp i keep dying
Watch ppl play pvp it helps
Any tips for pvp like do and dont
Do learn to do a noterun don't build on beaches /open areas build in the forest if ur starting out
No
Build on pillers so you don't get Maewing dove
If ur a pvp Bob build in a forest on the island or lost island
any pvp servers u guys reccomend that have no mods but is popular
LDL The Island 209
when you don’t have people running around shooting a bow like a mini gun
best way to get rid of turret towers? trying 50x for the first time so kinda shocked
What the dinos health looks like?
what?
i mean theres some chars
but other than that A TOWERING 9 FLOOR TUURET STACK
i see a tek gen so
i think i can ride my 3mil carb over there
but once i get off ill get turned into melted butter
That's what I meant the dino status
he has a 2mil charch
It's very hard to drop tower while he is online netting soaker and using carcha
i broke his tek sheild
I would suggest use racer with poker if he is online so he won't able to net
but its acting the feild is still there
im also on xbox
i dont have a ps anymore
It won't matter if its xbox or ps
Racer with imp and good saddle and cakes with c4 should do some damage if you know what you are doing
You won't need it if you know what you doing 😜
Anyone knows a smalls salt/tribemap discord?
I am searching for 2 German Tribe maits maybe 2 Englisch maits for the knew ASA Servers pls DM me
@clear latch
Please see this post for recruitment channel instructions: #1110974544853860493 message
If you're still having trouble, please refer to the video below for visual instructions:
:play_pause: Instructional Video
Anyone wanna pvp against me I only have about 26k hours now
Hi guys
Create one giant map with a 200 player cap
Why? most servers have 5 average atm
Not on evolved 🤦♂️
On ascended make something that wiped like every 3 months with a giant map and giant player limit
Ayo boys, been looking to do one last wipe of pvp ark with the boys, where is a good map to build bar gen 2 or extinction
For a bit of variation
You will play fjordur
Bro them servers are going down in a week
hey i got a question about setting a ark server up, i edited my crafting skill to be max crafting and i set the limit to 5oo dmg anf for flak its 1200 durability, i when i craft it it shows the bonus but not the maxed out stats any idea why? (im using beacon omni)
anyone know of a decent pvp server for pc?
does anybody host ark civilization pvp?
official pvp servers are all hit and miss and most are pretty bad
anyone wanna play ark?
try ldl maybe
Dia dhaoibh! does anyone play on switch?
@noble lodge
The ARK Switch official Discord can be found here: https://discord.gg/Q5E9F3bVfC
ARK Switch players will always be welcome in this discord too!
small tribes still dead?
Anyone need a tribe on ps on official/unnoficial pvp?
Lf french ppl to play with
I'm looking for Unofficial
Youre on xbox tho
I'm still looking myself and crossplay needs to be a thing
Okay
Good luck
You too
Thx
Np
any1 know a server on pc where i can suit pvp on like arenas
Where would be the best place to gather player feedback on a mod concept?
anyone on win10 smalls can hook me up with a tek rifle? ( itll boost your karma for asa i promess )
Does anybody have a egg with mutations I can have like a wyvern one , on ps4 official pvp
Would be greatly appreciated
new to this discord sever, im sure someone posted it somewhere
but when does the arkpocolyspe servers wipe
their last wipe was the 8th, they are closing when officials closes on the 30th
any word on when ascended evolved is dropping
thank you
just late october
thank you
Hi
.
Is there any recruiting tribu?
is pc conquest down?
Conquest was switched to classic
Hey anyone with a breeding pair of boss Rex's on official xbox willing to trade Ik there's no point but I want to mess around on official with tek
anyone tryna play on playstation?
yo
who wanna run pc im knewish but i no basics love to farm
Is it worth buying ark for a nintendo switch OLED if i own the PC version
i mean.. if you travel and wanna play ark then sure but probably dont use it for pvp 😭
Official servers shutdown in 6 days
Def not
anyone on pc tryna run it?
So I just read that official servers are being shutdown on the 30th, is this true?
yeah its shutting down soon
dunno if the 30th is the exact date but all official servers are shutting down soonm
For good? The post didn't really explain what was going on
Do you know if it's just for the official servers or all the servers
All official servers... u can still play ur Singleplayer or Unofficials
officials are shutting down in preparation of ASA i think
New release?
I'm not very familiar with the abbreviations
Ark survival ascended-ASE (the new game) ark survival evolved-ASE (what we're all playing rn)
Oh ok
by new game, i mean you'll need to buy it even though its basically ASE rebuilt in unreal engine 5? i think and theres optimisations and alot of bug fixes, basically a better version of ASE
That would be nice
btw i reccomend going to general and asking there since those people actually know whats happening
I've just gotten my info from bits they've been saying
Will do ty
how do you guys find high pop unoffical servers on pc?
#1110925695900713072 or google or steam discussions. thats for servers in general
You can also just go and change the sever sorting in game to highest/lowest pop servers
true that, but you could get a server thats active for a bit then really inactive other hours
Yep ark is dead
is Ascended Queuing System going to effect PVP? like, is PVP going to be better with this Ark 2?
i have been very much hoping
The queue system is great and terrible it means if you have low pop on a server and get capped you wont get new players in forever
oh. i understand. thank you. isnt that kinda what it always was? 40/40 and you couldnt get in unless someone left
on a different note, does anyone have any idea about if any pvp mechanisms will change?
It was 70/70 and there was no queue system so it was just luck to get in by auto clicking on join
They said caves will be changed and obviously dinos from other maps wont be available which will change meta and no engrams from other maps so no cliff plats, tek bows, nets ETC
very very interesting. that might be really nice. i appreciate. i will continue to learn more. this game is so beautiful. i miss it dearly
if Evolved is shutting down, i bet October 1st is when Ark Ascended opens... hmm server to play on.
get ur boots ready i guess \o.o/
They said it will launch in the 2nd half of october
ohh wow maybe will play single player to relearn
i might really like that though. especially for pvp... that sounds awesome to only have certain things like for basic The Island, etc
you think so?
I wanna make a home on a full island in the map-"The center", but when i try to destroy trees with the help of my ice-titan, trees regrow instantly, how i can prevent the growth of trees in that specific area?
place foundations or triangle foundations near the trees and they won't respawn
if they respawn too fast to do that, the server needs a higher resource respawn multiplier
can u elaborate plz?
mind autodecay timer though - on default settings it's 12 hours for an unsnapped structure, so you probably want to at least attach one other structure (ie a foundation and a pillar connected to each other)
on which part
if i place foundations then trees wont grow, but some of the area is not flat, how do i build there?
it's not like you ened a lot of foundations, you can just place individual foundations with a pillar connected to each scattered around
u mean i have to place a foundation on the place of a tree, right?
just near where the tree would normally spawn
ok, but i wanna make the whole island a home, that means i have to randomly place foundations
yes
unless your entire island is covered in foundations or you decide on a way of lining them up to look neater
okkk
but do u know how to i build on the places where a foundation is not able to place
You can place cliffplat then place foundation on it then pillar until you get to the floor then place
When a guy on a wyvern is chasing you while youre on your argy what do you do
you are going down to trees and flying like a idiot left right duwn and up
u pop a giga 👍
when is ark 2 coming out
Around 3087
Along with GTA 7
@tender pecan I heard Oct 30th but I would start checking STEAM (if that is how you get your games) Oct 23rd.
No release date for Ark 2 probably late 2024 or 2025. Ark 1.5 will be end of october sometime. No set date yet.
does any 1 now any good 1v1 servers
Yo looking for 2 official guys to do a video, just gotta pvp. Goated pvp. DM me
You’re wrong
?
if they dont release the game by the end of October then the company will accrue more interest then is sustainable for snail games/wildcard, which means we will get a version of ark 1.5 in october whether it is finished or not.
youtube: Ark Snail Games is Broke! - Nooblets
i cant send links
Nothing you just said contradicts anything he said that you claimed was wrong.
Lmfao. Like what 😂😂😂😂
the last seasons of arcpoc and beginner servers will be october, right?
so i'd expect asa to be released at the last possible moment
No. The last season of both ends on the 30th.
Both will be shut down on the 30th of september
When does ark poc wipe?
Hey , i am searching for 5 people to play asa smalls with . Dm me if u want to play with me when it comes out
#1110949794907684965 might get you some luck
Ok , didn't know there where here
Are the conquest servers online or they are disabled like i can't shearch any of them in my ark server list?
Conquest was changed to Classic.
ohh ok thanks
Who wanna join my casual pvp server
Cryos gonna be on 1.5 at lauch?
all we know is that wildcard is discussing it and we'll know more on an FAQ
🙏
are there any active unofficail servers ?
im bored out of my mind cant find anything to play
eliteark x25 trios is up with good pop
@analog lily see #bulletin-board-rules. Use https://discord.com/channels/729837326120910915/1110925695900713072 for server advertising.
Yo when does ark poc wipe for ps5 in October
Arkpoc wipes permanently on September 30th
Let me know what you guys think! Smalls should have some type of orp like turret damage or structure damage nerf. It’s just way to easy to raid and on smalls your way more likely to have offline window
Get good so you dont have 1
@wicked linden That is the most bob thing I’ve ever heard anybody say 😭😭 get a 6 man and protect ur base you Bob
Wait so it's not gonna come back up or what
Not until asa
Okay thank you
yes would be so good
at leat 1.5x dmg
Think it would be more balanced considering how easy it is to offline bases not full ORP or anything. No reason for name calling my fren
Also kishko said the same thing so he’s a Bob I suppose
Also the excessive teaming and account sharing is evidence enough it’s unbalanced currently is it not? I’d like to hear ur opinion👍😄
Yes I remember that. That was the video about Extinction
Correct!
Anyone knows how to destroy the void vacuum in ark omega?
anyone who can sell shadowmane female on small tribes?
imo the answer isn't to make offlining harder, but instead to accept acc sharing as part of smalls ecosystem and replace "max in tribe" limitation with "max online in tribe"
Good point!
stopping people from acc sharing is near impossible, but making it so a tribe has a max of 4~5 online and then allowing however many tribed is more feasible
and stops the whole "i don't want to play in your tribe because I don't want to waste a slot" + member cycling + [...]
I agree with you but I also think offlining should be a bit deterred largely because I think raiding is unbalanced as a whole and smalls is even worse.
Good point tho for sure
i mean thing is that raiding online at small scale is near impossible vs competent opposition (before considering caging or dodgy™️ methods)
you can drop extreme bob stuff but you're not getting in vs 2/3man that know how to play
Nah yall are such idiots lmao online a good tribe is nearly impossible if they are in a good spot
that
thats what i said
???
Good points and I agree with you
I don’t understand why we can’t have discussion instead of insulting eachother
#1110925695900713072 grahhh
you good
not an ad really. and i have one in there. its an open pvp invite to come play with me before we ark and I close it up.
kind of is an ad
i kinda agree... certainly just want some pvp players. not sure how to run that with out going all southpark fake ad on it.
Has there been any talk on meshing?
Are they gonna do a better job this time?
Please god
no, wait for FAQ to see if they talk about it then (doubt they'll talk about meshing in that though)
I really would love to know if they're going to try at the very least to cover that shit up. Insane to have that kind of an exploit on a game where it's time consuming and pvp heavily depends on having a base for your loot
Any PvP clusters that are offering a cash prize at the end of season on PlayStation?
does anyone have the small tribes discord??
Looking For A 6Man No orp long or no wipe server
NOT remedy or any other bum ass admin abusing servers
is arkpocalypse wiping tomorrow?
Anyone wanna hop on a fiber craft server
do people still use sinomacrops
in pvp
they tiny guys that fly
i feel like they are underused
prob not
where can i find a good boosted server
hello who play in #golden in playstation please ??? @everyone
Don’t see why not cryos fix a lot of issues
Ion think island meant to have cryos so wait till the map that adds them I forgot which
Hey how effective is a Mosa base in Ragnarok? Do u guys think that people are gonna find it or is it unlikely becaude of how unpopular under water is?
Anyone interested in joining an unofficial pvp server let me know. It’s a couple of days old. Looking to build up a nice thriving community
yes
I think so but it depends on timer
*time zones
Stay away from deep sea lost crates and their routes, stay away from tuso trench and stay away from the south islands and you may have a chance
If you keep it small
People wanna tribe up with me we need active members on 50x we just starteddd so we can use all the help there is!!! PM ME
What are good pvp steam servers?
since snow-north isn't going to be buildable now I'm wondering what other cave have the faith.
?
really?
He’s assuming no cryos on launch.
im torn, so much is going on without much info out, so anyone can say anything at this point and i would believe it
"Manas will be available on day 1 the island" 😭
Don’t stress about it man we know the game already just gotta adapt to the tweaks and changes but it’s not like it’s a completely new game
They should change the maps imo
It’s going to be a bit shitty if I’m going to spend £45 on a new game just for it to be the previous game with better graphics
It’s already confirmed to be more than just better graphics
Yep, they’re remaking the maps from scratch and changing them
Any1 know suit PvP arena srvr on pc pls
Cave building should be gone in my opinion bring back the fat bases everyone grew to know and love in early ark days. Skelet towers are fun and OP but aesthetically the game looks horrible now pvp wise.
what are YOU yapping about all i know is that cave bases are the most boring thing
Yeah mate raiding a crouch cave without cryos will be really fun
Alright bud how you raiding it without cryos
You’ve just used a glitch as justification
Well you know glitches are not meant to be in the game
2 years
@flint swift You know what will be even more fun is the artifacts being blocked off so that no one can do bosses since the servers are closed
Small tribes you don’t really claim servers
Any1 know suit PvP arena srvr on pc pls
exept mts
And most people are toxic
Claiming on a 6 man only works if you have no life
Yes
Yeah mate I don’t play like a f ag so I don’t do any of that
Yeah I really suck you got me
Crazy how your justifying being in artifact caves
Think of it this way you guys. Each player plays his own way. Whether playing solo, in a small tribe, alpha tribe. It's a different experience.
Bro thinks I’m about to commit every hour of my life on ark so I can claim a server on a game to do boss fights
Or just remove building in artifact caves to balance the game
Can’t wait for the center to have to raid ice and pearl cave
The alpha tribe will just block the entrance of the cave. Yeah it sucks but its how it is.
Some Alpha controlled servers will let bobs and small tribes play on the server. I understand it sucks at times maybe you can't get the artifacts. But like Bubble said Ask the alpha tribe or try and hopefully find another server.
ASA isn’t even out yet
Ok yeah you could do that but on the island for example there’s not enough base spots for 70 players
Correct and I feel for you Graham. It's just that at times. You can't beat them, you join them.
I personally live in broken rat holes
So I don’t have to spend my life on the game
But to each their own. Some people have a lot of time and enjoy gaming. So hence the 20,000 hours in ark
I’m In a 4 man
Yeah well most of those hours are likely afk I have 5k hours on smalls
I’m not going to be able to do that on the island since the map is too good for base spots
So Graham you like to play just in small tribes. my suggestion is if you want. once you find a server and Alpha tribe is ok. You can grow there. I've seen it. But usually they end up just a bigger target for griefers to come and destroy.
I hope you find a server so you can enjoy the game
@placid escarp if you were on the island I'm on. Yes you would. Only issue would be griefers coming over
They have given up Caves for some small tribes to have and shared the artifacts
Any1 know suit PvP arena srvr on pc pls
exept mts
I hope you find that kind of server and they are out there. New ASA will be different at the start I assume
I’ll just find another broken rat hole since the island map is likely to change with asa
Yeah I only play official 6 man small tribes
@placid escarp I played a year on the island solo. With an Alpha tribe
ASA is going to be completely different due to there being max players for the first few weeks
@placid escarp 6man small tribes I have never done. Personally like TONS of players on a server. For me it's more exciting waiting to die 🙃
Bubble I believe understands that as well. He sounds like been in an alpha tribe if not a Mega.
I hope the best for you Graham
both are fun to play in pvp but 6man is much harder
Hmmm what to play 1x or small tribes
Are they even having smalls on ASA launch?
probably not, it wouldn't be healthy for pvp at least..
@latent robin yes
pls wildcard i don't wanna see chinese with aimbot at first day " fix the cheat stuff "
Currently got a stone base in a pvp server, and a PT and Parasaur. Trying to figure out where to move my base to. Are there any good hidden locations good enough for a solo player on the Island to build up with little threat of being found?
if you in offical " hmmmm idon't think there is one on island map
you can build underwater "
or a ship and go to the corner far a way drom land till you get good base spot
Am in official
Trying to get to beat the game fully on official before I get the new one
official will close XD
I don’t have people I play with tho lol so I run solo
if you need a tribe i guess you can come with us we wite the new ark
Wyn you wite the new ark
this one will close as i said
Bro didn't get the memo?
Ark officials is CLOSING permanently
Right. Speaking of, when are they releasing survival ascended
I know ark is swapping to a new one, I just didn’t know what they meant by “Wite”
yea i tybe when i was mid of fight
It's a new game remastered that costs 40$
Wouldn't call it a "swap"
Hey everyone, when is the release date for ascended ?
end of oct
thx
They're giving everyone time to say good bye to their family's, they will be gone for another 8 years
🤣 true
i know that pain skip work to defend the base "
or even go out with the fam
Family just gets in the way some times, they don't know how important 900 dura flak bps are
🤣
whaaaaaat so ps can come pvp with pc wow
All playing on 1 cluster essentially
It should be very popular early on
I hope 30+ pop per server
bro we are 90 ppl witting the game we wanna be big tribe
You better hope they crackdown on the botting and meshing or you will wish it wasn't xplay lol. But full xplay will be dope
Ahhh I'm going smalls
If meshing is still a thing then that means they sold us a broken game, which will be sad af
Lemme warn u now
It's early access
Expect it to come broken
I don't see anyone meshing anytime soon tbh
Meshing isn't even the worst when I say botting I'm adding godmode speed flying all of that essentially the hacking that is still going on even one the eve of them closing the servers
Iv got bets placed with ppl
That the game will have similar issues for pvp
@wispy sorrel same lol I'm just sipping copeacola
Aimbotting is nothing yh 💀💀
Few other cheats 2
Meshing is actually annoying
Our tribe would fight so many cheaters in pvp no problem
But when we getting. Meshed that's the worst
Meshing is annoying but literal godmode is a thing still so Meshing is at the bottom of the list for me
Bro all this shit is just simply unacceptable. No way they will allow it since they went through the longest trial and error period ever!!! If this stuff happens, then I will not be playing ark 2 and they will have confirmed corruption within the dev group imo
We will c if they do better but I got 0 faith
I want to have faith, cause no way they didn't learn from the first 8 years
We will see if there are dev issues as soon as someone gets a God giga the first month lol
Took 7 years for them to try 2 patch pc INI
And 1 hr for ppl get around it again
Any patch
There's a new problem
ini patch was sucks "
can't see shit when pvp in tree
or water "
and you can't add filter to make game color's looks cool
Yh and that's a separate issue entirely
Game unoptimized etc
Tbh I would hate to give them my time again and money just to have to go through the most ridiculous shit. But I fucking love this game haha
I don't know much about the ps servers before but all I'm saying is the hacking that steam and mostly windows 10 users had to endure was WILD.
We gonna go through hell because of pc guys is what your telling me lol fml
Pc ark is awful
Console mostly had meshing 2 worry about only
Iv seen some crazy cheats
I went through some god mode issues on genesis, guy literally flying around shooting through the ground on h pillar lmao. I was mad but at the same time it looked so funny
I know I've seen em all on windows 10 that's why I said I would feel bad for ps users to be excited if they don't fix these issues lol
I feel you. Let's hope they do
This is a great opportunity for them to start fresh and do things right. Get a good reputation leading into ark 2. If not, we have 2 testimonials to refer 2 when looking into ark 2
The worst part is it is always one of the issues they just kind of don't ever talk to the community about
3rd times the charm? Nah it's over, I'm breaking up with studio wild card
They don't care much about pvp
PVE Is doing great
Yea I absolutely agree
They basically say "cry" and then release a new Dino
Essentially I know people are cheating and your losing everything but here is an Evo event with some nice color 🦤
That's the best part
If cheaters do get punished, now what?
U could've lost 1k hours building a base and there's no rollback for you
Actually waste of time then
No point right?
And loads of cheaters just get a new account
It's so toxic for offical pvp
The new account thing happens in every game but it would be nice to know they are at least trying 😅
They did have a excel sheet of official ticket reports and bans etc 2 show 4
Except even with the enforcement they do It's not enough at all
They needed better anti cheat etc

Playstation official tribes gonna get knocked off so fast on 1.5
I wonder what breeding and mutations is gonna be like
they said so?
Epic games accounts couldn’t be hardware banned.
Have 2 hear directly from wildcard as 2 Why
no cryos💀
They shut Official servers down?
Yes
Permanently
Been announced months ago
Ohh preperations for asa i assume😄
Will crossplay be available day 1 ?
The crunch explains it
Steam won't have crossplay with console at launch but will later
chat so if i net someone
Lmao offical PvP is fucked, players can’t even pump movement speed anymore. Yeah unoffical here I come
it has its pros and cons tbh
it balances pvp bbut makes pve annoying while keeping people off the ground and focusing more on dino v dino pvp which is what ark should be
@limber thicket bro your such a bob and suck at PvP it goes to show 😭 ark foot PvP is way more skifful if you sit on a Dino all day then you obviously suck at PvP
okay kinda toxic, all im saying is it will force people to make smart choices when on foot and not be given the same get out of jail free card, and all weapons during the start of ANY wipe on ark are very strong, im really salty about the chnage but i can see where they came from
u r shit
k?
Loads of pvp players enjoy foot pvp
And it's sometimes annoying to find good foot pvp as is
So no, not really a good change
ya but still a cool change shakes the meta
But they said unofficial servers will be able to allow movement speed change so if you want foot pvp you can go to an unofficial with it enabled?
I could think of a few other changes that are "cool and shake up the meta"
But not this change
I mean, in general I'd recommend pvp player never touch officials and go unofficial cause of how shit it is
You don't gotta tell me, I lived it for years 😅😭
whats crazy is i HATE this change but im trying to see the upside of it
and people are being toxic 😛
That's what we call huffing some copium
i mean, i don't think they'd remove player movespeed levelling without buffing player movespeed
no way they remove movespeed levelling without buffing player move by somewhere between 20~70%
Join the discord call and ask dollie if u want then
46 in call
ask about a topic i don't feel strongly about
💀
make a fucking poll about this movement speed shit I think literally no one asked for this
for real put a cap at least
i mean it's fine as long as they buff base movespeed honestly
no difference between 130% cap and 130 base, besides losing 20 points 🤷
i think there should be a cap like cant go pass 170%
i mean as a 200%+ movespeed enjoyer i understand addiction to movespeed
its wild card they want to make it more of a survival game
you are humans afterall, humans dont run that fast. Its healthier for the game
I am a melee enjoyer anyways
And it is going to be easy to ban speed hackers:)
This is probably the better place to find out instead of general chat. Anyone know if ini files will still be accessable in ASA? They honestly should be removed for obvious reasons even tho i always played with them. @vapid abyss @wide wren any info?
they banned it like 1-3 month ago, im pretty sure they will be in ASA
Why no cryo ?? Bad decision
I think they want it to be kinda like og Ark launch
without cryos caves like ice are unraidable
but it is not a launch of something new, it is something that we already know what it is like and the ark has been improving over time making the game more comfortable and you are not a slave to it. I only ask that they add the cryo from day 1 and something to help you raise.
imagine if they brought back 4hour imps💀
They specifically said choke points are getting balanced. Perhaps they’re opening them up.
Rip ark that official rag on ps5 was something else 70 people at blue ob watching ark go
give us move speed just cap it at 150-170
anyone know a chill pvp server thats also more prim based if theres like a modded server for that or something
someone searching for asa offi members?
Hi is what the small pvp will open at the release of ark 1.5 ?? thx

Get bent and go back to your cave you troll.
Bubble o would put actual money on you getting turned inside out, wanna 1v1? Download the maps and dm me I’ll record and send Graham the video of you getting man handled
You like cave fighting because it’s literally easy. A monkey can sit there and place spam and throw nades bro you sound like all you’ve ever known was ark after 2018 lmao.
No reading comprehension is key
oooh
Btw all Xbox plebs will need to get a pc hahaha
on one rn
Ark screwed console players
That shit ain’t ever coming out 🤣
More so just making pc a priority. They’re being safe about it or at least trying to minimize pissing everyone off at once
Being solo either cuz you’re anti-social with no communication skills or you’re a tribe reject lmao bro have absolutely no idea how to play the game.
Ima go smash some unofficial servers in the time being
BeyondArk 15x - BongWizards Alpha tree ext come pull up, Shadow cave Abb pull up
Lol already laughing at the comments
@pliant breach "Ark screwed console players" How though?
I love it when people hate on solo players. I have made plenty of progress playing solo official PvP for years
You won’t even be able to play the game so go ahead and upgrade that box
Why won't I be able to play it? I played it during legacy days on terrible OG Xbox with rubber banding servers and still had fun
Because it’s not compatible with the new engine
You will need a whole new console 🤣
PC is cool but I'd rather dedicate an Xbox to playing Ark than put my PC to work. Cheaper and I can play on servers without PC players who cheat way more
You won’t even be able to launch the game bro
You are lost my friend. The game is coming out on console too
Go read the requirements for ark 1.5 and tell me how in the f**** you are going to open the game
You will literally need a pc for it bro ski
With an Xbox Series S. Please take your PC master racism elsewhere so I can have an actual discussion about PvP
Xbox is not able to run the new engine unless you can modify your console by ripping it apart and installing your own hardware you need to upgrade
The new gen consoles can run it.
Playstation guys
R they playing on unofficial?
What do you mean?
4080 graphics card i9 processor 🍆
Unofficial servers still run.
Everyone in ps4/5 is playing unofficial?
Yes
Cuz i think im installing thr game again
I think im going to switch for pc when asa launch
Pc is probably always better. lol
Ye
Anyone an official solo player or small tribes player?
☝️Facts lol anyone who plays solo on official is way better than those that want to "smash some unofficial server"
Bro go download suit pvp so I can clap you. Pt pvp whatever variation of 1v1 you want
Can’t beat ‘em join em
Cross play will be a meme
Probably lol
Yeah cuz ur doodoo
Pc players running around with ini will tear consoles apart
I'll be interested to see how they deal with that.
Crossplay of that kind always sucks.
Like pc/xbox crossplay.
“Deinstall” you’re a meme
Xbox/ps servers 
they actually did a decent job with making a map with no rat holes
The way they talked about cheaters in the cc, leads me to believe they didn't do shit and we will definitely be seeing ghosts in the wall tek rifling geni's
People will always find a way to exploit games.hopefully alot of things are better tho,I’m just happy they gave us console only servers in case hacking gets outta hand with pc.then I don’t gotta worry about as much 😂 🤷♂️
Console servers >> Hacking PC servers
hey is someone searching for pc offi members for asa?
Lmao they really separated us
@vapid abyss Please don't turn PVP to starwars game "GEN2" again
They will add gen3/4 with more stunning abilities 👍
So since going back to day 1, the highest level of defense will be auto turret? I can't remember how long it took for tek to come out? And how long could it take this time around
I assumed Heavies and tek is still around day 1
im sure raiding caves with heavies and tek will be completely balanced now with rocket runs being nerfed to the ground and no cryos
- Cryos will be added down the road
- Some dinos still op to rockerun with, no speed needed
- If Grapple glitch isn't fixed u could still grapple into turret walls
if they have a player online with a giga its impossible to raid now
That depends
Iv seen many ppl fail simple defense
well for competent players anyway
True,
If defence is clueless
And attackers are smart
U could get onlined
depends on the cave aswell without cryos initially you cant bring any dinos in to rocket run with
defence isnt very hard
I mostly agree with u
Iv just seen really bad defences online be4
Specifically what cave we talking about?
Cause they said they changing choke points
if theres still a crouch in ice im sure thats going to be fun
Everyone is sure
They are reworking ice crouch
Anything else tho, we don't know
but yeah theyll probably fix the broken caves
But yes, at start of game it maybe harder to raid ppl
if the center releases before extinction theyre going to have a lot of work to do balancing that map without cryos
Specifically referring to what?
Center pearl cave?
Island pack cave has a tight choke aswell few things can fit
its going to be very difficult to raid when tribes get set up
caves especially, no cyros? if there is a crouch in ice, good luck building it and leaving all your dinos out for months probably
Well yh... early game will be harder 2 raid
And no server transfers
tame snipe about to be crazy lol
Not really it's going to be quite hard because u have to use and argy or quetz even then
It's easy to counter
Don't 4get...
The new island bug 🙂
Later on in the meta sure...
Early game that thing is best flyer
U could say that about almost every other flyer in the game?
The bug won't have insane hp like it does now
Still better then an argy/pt/quezal early game
Tek Turrets and Heavies will be there on launch I believe btw
Oh that would be cool also
bug is the most tanky flyer we will have on release, infact its the most tanky flyer in general
unless u consider astrocetus but who uses that
to be fair you still need to tame it
but yeah rhynios will be disgusting on island meta
@raw sand in all honesty I feel bad for xbox
They are drones alr they going to get their ass's kicked
During asa
What's the difference between Xbox and Playstation
playstation will also be crossplay for ASA 
and there will be console only servers anyway.
i do hope rhyino gets some valid nerfs
@wispy sorrel playstation as whole have just more better player base in the game xbox only are farm bots and I haven't seen an Xbox server go over 100 past 2019
Alrdy did
oh lol. its just a console war post 😂
They also have just better tribe structure then xbox they still with the idea of allies over 1 tribe
ya but there wont be any nets and etc on release so everyones gonna be on nothing else but rhyinos, like mabye once we get wyverns the meta might diverse a bit i guess
The bugs need a massive nerf for pvp. If a cloned bug which can only be like lvl 82, can fly into 100 turrets and yoink a anything while having stun, dismount, and fear immunity, flying at astro speed, there's a huge balance problem.
So there's no tek shiz for a while after release?
I think it's out day 1, but ofc only island tek
I remember once that WC made a statement something along the lines of "will never release anything that's so overpowered in PvP" after so much outcry about the titans and manas on launch of Extinction. It seems like they forgot about that. There needs to be someone looking at new dinos and features from a pvper's perspective, so things like one-button aoe dismounts (owl and shadowmane) don't destroy the competitiveness of tribe pvp. And lvl 82 cloned bugs that can tank 100 turrets. imo, dismounting should be way more difficult, and more things should instead be stuns to encourage set-up plays. Instead of just net -> pocketcarcha -> profit.
No cryopods gonna be interesting
Bro, everything they add
Every new dino/dlc is mostly all broken
Ark devs balance:
Smth broken?
Make smth else more broken to balance it all out
The point is
The devs don't care about pvp balance much
rare to see it
Yep
PvP and PvE should be balanced differently. People that know, should at least have input on balance decisions.
I know PvP is a smaller community, but still. I think it's large enough to warrant attention.
still having flashbacks to release astros 😭
Remember manas on release? You just pounce everything to death in like 2 hits.
My favorite was all the stunning meta from gen2
That meta never changed.
it did xd
Right-click stun is nonsense.
right click .5sec stun is barely a stun at that point
release gen2 you literally couldnt move
What are u on?
Stunning is meta
But it's a dismount is the problem, right?
not like release gen2 it isnt
yes stuns are in meta
stunlocking is not
It's not even the stun that's the problem, it's the fact that you just get dismounted and instakilled.
yes
true
that's what i mean
but release gen2 was chain cc to death
Yeah absolutely, it was hard to enjoy that dlc because of it.
imo it wasnt a massive problem on the map itself at launch
But who cares about pvp balance
When cheating is a bigger issue for pvp
All the bugs/balance can be overlooked by comparing
As someone who doesn't engage in cheating, I care about balance haha
astros wiping bases from outside of turret range was another story
yeah i mean it's cringe but
not much point talking about it beyond "enforcement discord would be cool"
??? Huh
I'm saying that so many cheaters in pvp, u can't play
Yeah it really turned into a problem way large than just duping. Modded clients are wild, and that's been an untouched problem for a while now.
I went over to official crossarks for a while because it's way less of a commonality there, and there are no joinsim weekends.
tfw wildcard managed to finally balance astros, but desynced astros somehow prevent you from leaving base even more than spinners xdd
which crossark?
US 10 for the longest stretch of time.
ah, no idea on that one - spent a while towards offi close dabbling on 8
can confirm crossark was nicer for cheating, but line gap is way more cringe over there
Yeah, absolutely true. Boosted rates for crossarks would have been pretty reasonable, as someone who had the better lines for years.
I played crossark last year
And people started cheating there 2
A lot less
And cheaters were rare long ago
Every offical had cheaters
What’s everyone playing now that the servers are gone?
Discord
Fun game
10/10
Lol sooooo nothing huh?
real
Lmao
actually nothing
well D&D actually but that's a table top thing... at least we have that... for now
Dude I remember just getting camped at ele veins and it turning into a fight every single time of "who has the better manas" and that was literally all we ever did, breed more manas because like 50 of them were dying per day across the cluster since everybody was using them
Guys u think chain bola will be more used in meta without nets or Z?
"Meta" nah
Viable? Maybe
hello everyone I'm looking for a pvp server does anyone have a server to recommend to me? I'm French so I don't know if this has anything to do with the list of servers I'm going to have
Maybe more used for defence
Well obviously....
Yh
It will be necessary to counter rhynios
Rhynios have absolutely 0 counters on island
The fact that chain bola is the closest thing to a counter is scary
No one have that crossbow in his inventory, chain bolas and foundation
people did on mts a few years ago
at least a few did
There is no another option
Interesting
The only real option for wildcard is to just fucking remove them from launch
And add speed back my brain is gonna explode if the slowest dinos are faster than players
I'm looking for a pvp server does anyone have a server to recommend to me? I'm French so I don't know if this has anything to do with the list of servers I'm going to have
I rhink rhynios will be the most nerf creature in launch
Hopefully will be not to broken at the launch
I don't know if you understand just how much they need to be nerfed to not ruin the meta
I remember in big wars when nets were out
Sometimes chain Bola was OK
Ppl didn't really use in anycase
Yh i know that rhynio on island meta is to broken and will be still broken with nerfs but i dont think wildcard remove it from the launch
Ofc they won't
They listen to everyone but the people that have 10k+ hours in their game when they don't play it themselves
hey is there any place to ask the devs a question here?
People already recruiting for mega tribes lol
Our mega up to like 700 ppl. But I’ve heard some like HP at like 4K lol
yeah been there too
no cheaters except alot of beach bobs
atp it wouldn’t be fun to play in a tribe with that many people
crossark 1 alphas had capped lines on every dino they had lmao and gatekeeping artifacts and obelisks
@pul__#0
who tryna play steam
G
Has meshing been talked about much? re ASA
UE5 has more mesh protection upgrades or thats is what they say
Fr
Moving across the map on foot will be fucking aids
10 minutes to run through a cave because your slow as shit
If they remove the option to level movement speed then they should at least set it to be like 125 off rip
You, Someone tell me if they have a PvP server,I get bored waiting for the ascended
Trying to catch your breath n shit lmao
I really hope that gets bumped off.
Speed is a good thing
I understand a speed cap because of the changes to cave chokes so you can’t just run every wall but if it’s current base 100% it will be ass
ASA win10 will have an anti-cheat and will likely be the same as steam in regards to everything besides crossplay/updates on launch.
there are also going to be console only servers 
It has anticheat rn and doesn’t stop hackers
thats every game so 🤷 guess you can't play anything
There will be servers for Xbox and ps5 only
Refreshing I guess
I want all platforms on official for maximum players, but with better handling of cheaters. A better response to the problem
They could have it all, if they have a fast response time to the shit show that it's gonna be from hacking.
Will there be different game modes on launch or just 1x
Different, smalls will be available
Pocket chain bola
No counter to woolly rhino except grappling up to a high area
The only game that has it worse is Rust
Deutschhh?
By time pvp will be a thing on x1 at least there will be plat y
Because x1 will be pve till tranfers as you know each server will be locked down
Deutschh
Deutschhh
