ark-2

[brave trail]

they must have left out hardcore with the rates changes lol, its till 1x for me

[blissful perch]

1x is 4 times what it used to be

So it’ll say 1x…but that’s not what the original rates were 😅. And I see that as a good thing, because original official rates were pure pain

[mint swan]

Real (i did not play back then)

[worldly garden]

So many people don't understand that 1.0 doesn't mean it is 1x since the start. It has caused a lot of confusion over the years.

[brave trail]

i mean ive been playing this game for atleast 8 years and its always been the same harvest so do yall care to explain how its 4 times what it used to be? are we talking dino harvest? xp? cuz it all feels the same

[brave trail]

i actually did play back in the ascendant rocker launcher days but ok

[mint swan]

Im talking about me, arent i?

[brave trail]

i thought u were talking about me not"understanding the the rates" thing

[ionic meteor]

How is playing a game considered a full-time job? Cryos are very OP and are easy to get in ARK 1, if they do add it to ARK 2 then I think your fine with someone dropping a fully-mutated giga on top of your base (Yes it happened to me.. many times).

Still doesn't make sense.

[split dove]

cryos shouldn't be in ark 2, have a structure do what it does and restrict where it can be placed and how fast you can get something out, that way it's actually more balanced than the 0.5 weight instant pokeball bullshit. end of discussion 😂

[ionic meteor]

it even makes growing a dino army pointless if you could just use one dino because you cant really deploy more than 5 without having to wait 15 minutes.

[split dove]

no cd on pve, on pvp every cyro being used has a 5 min cryosick timer cooldown

bc they're either on console or mentally weird on pc

Insert emoji_21 from our hangout

[blissful perch]

All harvest rates. I think exp got a 2x rate across the board too

[worldly garden]

Just not stone picking. But people will repeatedly deny rates have ever changed. 🤷🏻 Can't convince them otherwise.

[winged dome]

Why are you pinging me?

Hype for release isn't clink worthy

This is though ...

🍻

[past wind]

Trivial resources should be found all around the map, but special resources should take “5 hours” to collect.

It’s better than going to the asteroids and farming 2000 elements in minutes and teleporting back to the base.

Nah, I think traveling to get the resources is the best way to not trivialize everything.

It’s so easy now that’s boring

[split dove]

or just from world events as well maybe

[past wind]

Do both

But seriously, what would you suggest for the new farming system

If you don’t want to move around the map

I mean, it’s already 99% confirmed you will need to explore. Just not sure how hard it will be to collect everything we will need

I think they should do both ways. World events + exploring the map to collect stuff

But you would need to explore and travel to reach those

What I would do is:
It would be really easy to collect resources and craft a sword. But if you the best sword possible, you would need to spend more time on it, collecting everything needed for it.

But for element veins, to farm them, is smacking on a rock 🤣

The only difference is you need to fight the minions first

Yeah, I would use the osd concept for savaged tek on Ark 2

Like pieces of the genesis ship falling in Arat with special goods

[split dove]

not again

as long as it's not hitscan i'll allow it

[past wind]

TBF I would be disappointed if Ark 2 has no firearms

[split dove]

i'm down for it if they're hard to get and are more projectile based

[past wind]

It doesn’t need to be an assault rifle or tek guns, but primitive ones

[past wind]

It would be ok to me

That I believe it won’t happen

Not for a while at least

[split dove]

idc what guns it will be, just don't make it fully hitscan so you can still dodge and have potential to outplay

[past wind]

They seem to be focused on keeping it as primitive as possible

[primal girder]

[past wind]

I just want ranged weapons better than crossbows actually

[split dove]

no

[past wind]

Also, sieging units would be nice, like catapults

For Ark 1 yes

Ark 2 is a new beast

I would be ok with it

But as Flobs said, it shouldn’t be easy to craft the weapons and bullets

It should be a special weapon

Something like that would ok to me

[split dove]

as long as it isn't as piss easy to get like Ark 1 and locked behind rare resources or world events i'm fine with it

[past wind]

They weren’t. Pumps and longnecks were used a lot.

Just when tek bow became a thing and they were partially replaced

[split dove]

in conclusion: blame tek

the plot of ark 2 so far

[icy storm]

any news when it comes out ?

[split dove]

atm no, we might know more with the roadmap being shared this month. it could contain dates/time windows for stuff like extra reveals, gameplay and release

[blissful perch]

Five hours to get any single material is a nonsense requirement. Travel times should never be that long for anything routine. If you want OSD/bosses to have loot, or events, or a specific dangerous spot that you can get a haul from, sure…but time gating is just not good

[split dove]

''puts on reading glasses'' let's see the list: mutation breeding, bp requirements and rng drops

[winged dome]

🍻

[tropic forge]

🍿

[blissful perch]

When do we pop a dark morkite

[blissful perch]

The list is so true lol. Tbh to an extent even basic mat gathering is a time gate…waiting for god knows how many things to craft and smelt to get the 50k needed for one BP 😅

Just require less shit

Do you NEED 300-400 wood to make a 1x1 wooden box? 🤷‍♂️

Do you NEED 20k metal for a saddle? 🤷‍♂️

[tropic forge]

yes and 100k ingots to make a mosa platf

how else you gonna prolong the gameplay???

[lime flicker]

Zen didn’t beer me 😔😞

[rare heart]

If there is a skill tree id love faster harvesting, or better harvesting for specific things

[winged dome]

Clinks are only gotten for asking supid, repeated questions. Not for Ark2 hype

[blissful perch]

I assumed it had to be both stupid and repeated. Is just stupid ok @winged dome 😂

[rare heart]

Id also want dinosaurs to have skill trees…. As much as i love pumping levels to make the craziest shit imaginable

[blissful perch]

Remove stat leveling -> skill tree only

🙏 would be fantastic to actually have reigned in stats

[split dove]

my take on how dino skill trees could replace breeding

[ripe cedar]

Leave breeding as just a way to get new dinos without needing to go to far away from base or just make them level faster

And some sort of imprint buff but i dont think it should be straight stat increase

[blissful perch]

I’m ok with a small 10% stat buff or some other form of value that comes from imprinting…but I agree the 30% across the board is kinda nutty

[south lance]

need to make taming relevant

[prime sandal]

need to make xbox small tribes separate to windows small tribes

[blissful perch]

Doubt that’s happening

I wonder if ark 2 will even launch with small tribes. It may just be PvP and PvE at launch

Dollie did confirm officials lol

When she told me sotf wasn’t going to be an ark 2 gamemode

Simply don’t play official and you won’t play official 😂

Mods on consoles makes me wonder if unofficial crossplay could happen

[split dove]

it potentially could

ip ban him from our server then

that man is insane and you know it

[south lance]

needs to happen

and will use it with a primitive bow

[rare heart]

Scrap guns seem like something thats possible but it at the same time sounds super powerful and super expensive lol

[past wind]

I’ve put “five hours” because I meant a relevant amount of time to get op stuff.

Remember when the only source for elements were the bosses? How many hours we had to spend to do the bosses? I mean, just collecting trophies, artifacts etc would take more than 5 hours.

Im not implying people should take hours to grind enough metal to craft a pick. But it should take longer to craft more OP stuff. Like this “savaged tek rex saddle” that leaked.

[blissful perch]

I’m fine with 5 hours total for something like a tek BP…but I’m kinda a fan of not needing that sort of time to harvest materials used for fuels or “common” purposes ya know? I’m fine with super rare mats used in low quantity being like that tho

[past wind]

For sure. I’m not talking about common stuff, but op stuff.

I mean, common sword should be easy to craft. But let’s say you can use the composite system to improve it. The more a resource improves the item, more rare it should be.

[blissful perch]

Yea the issue is element was the OP stuff and you needed tons of it for fuel and ammo

[marsh void]

So is ark 2 being pushed back to 2026……

[past wind]

And it should have stayed that way, unfortunately

Things went south after the veins from extinction

Extinction brought the meks and easy elements

[hazy elm]

I'm pretty sure this game isn't coming out this year. My proof: Wildcard

[astral token]

Yeah it was confirmed a few weeks ago

Go to obscurewildcardinfo.com to find out more

[tropic forge]

pretty sure it will have official server like before

[astral token]

Yeah the devs dropped a veiled hint in one of their retweets on the 29th of February this year

It read like ARK II random text 2025

There was a lot of random text but it’s irrelevant

[hazy elm]

Probably not coming until 2030 when we all have 6090tis

and 30 core pcs at 50 ghz

[tropic forge]

in common sense in official servers of ark the more rare material is the more ppl will be there to farm it even when dosent need so they can monopolize it to sell it for huge amounts of other materials

why not? if you dont wanna get stuck on a official there's always other ways to play it 🤣

[past wind]

Ark is an online game, they can’t rely only on unnofficials

To each their own. We better have both and let people choose what they want

[tropic forge]

no lifes want official others that have jobs, families so on want unofficial and single

i got no life so i want official 🤣

[past wind]

Minecraft players are messed up

[tropic forge]

dont like the graphics plus story sucks

it depends

[verbal wind]

the constant grind is a pain in the ass

[blissful perch]

Imo they should have split the boss only element from a separate ammunition resource that could be harvested

[blissful perch]

1.) issue not identified 2.) rare is comparative. If there are 10,000 stone nodes on the map, a resource can have 1,000 and be “rare” 3.) bosses and other such “challenge” scenarios or events should be accessible across the map so they can’t be monopolized on PvE or PvP…which should manage the issue of capping off resources

[untold ingot]

I don't know, I still think pvp should have significant competition for endgame resources

Like that's the issue with ark1 rn, no one gets normal pvp out in the open because everyone has everything they need (or can get it while avoiding everyone) so the only pvp is raids. If endgame items are rare in number and stuck in repeatable locations it turns into a lava golem pvp spot which imo is the best pvp in the game

[past wind]

Yeah, I remember back in the days there was a lot of pvp (griefers) when people were just doing their daily stuff. Now people just stay inside their caves.

And for pve, things get boring fast because you can get everything so easily. I remember when players had to choose where to spend their elements because there wasn’t much.

[untold ingot]

That type of pvp only happens on unofficials now, and you wonder why people like unofficials lol

[tropic forge]

why you think will be anything on this cc? they might just post another dino pic and thats it

right around the corner last week can mean 1min 1h 1d 1 week 1month in wildcard terms, how many times they have done it before??? 🤣 my guess last day of the month (maybe they will read this and post before to prove me wrong 🤣)

[slim zodiac]

Or it won’t be released this month at all?

[tropic forge]

theres always that chance even for a roadmap 🤣 too much complex

[slim zodiac]

The corner could mean next march?

[stray elm]

They confirmed 'this' month, but like Fox said. It could be delayed.

Don't worry honey, I'll take care of the children while you rest.

[ionic meteor]

I hope we won't fight more after that lol

[split dove]

you know how the average ark chatter functions mentally right? we will always have to fight

[ionic meteor]

Yeah I'm starting to get used to it at this point.

[untold ingot]

There will be arguments about ark2 stuff until ark3 comes out lol

[past wind]

It’s impossible to keep like that indefinitely

[covert tapir]

maybe end of ark 2 they decide to go back to earth and then they go back to arat and so we will get an infinite numbers of ark sequels

[split dove]

we don't need 15 different versions of Ark 2 lotus

[covert tapir]

just a back and forth

[stray elm]

Yeah, kind of same.
But there's a time that even GTA5 will die, and that's kind of soon-ish from what it seems. (with all of the lack of updates, and the GTA6 leaks)

[past wind]

If it sells, of course they will find a way to keep it going

[split dove]

Gta 5 had so many different versions lol

[past wind]

No… what do you mean?

[stray elm]

Though to be fair, ARK-1 kind of did it.
7 years worth of content and DLC's before ARK-1 stopped with major content updates.
I can see ARK-2 being the same, if not around 10-ish years.

[covert tapir]

well maybe the end of the story will be humans accepting they are destroying yet another planet, so they have to think of somewhere else to go, a dead planet or smth

[stray elm]

GTA5 only has like 3 versions compared to Skyrim's literal 7

[split dove]

i think i'm mixing things up..... again 😅

[past wind]

It will be 8 years by the time Ark 2 is out

[past wind]

Probably 🤣

[stray elm]

I meant for content, not for the game being alive

[split dove]

that's what job hunting and looking at these chats will do to you i guess

[stray elm]

Fjordur was arguably the last major content update to ARK-1.

[past wind]

New Dinos and ue5 implementation is kinda new content I guess

I believe new Dinos are coming, right?

[stray elm]

Yeah, but I wouldn't call one creature an update a 'major' update.

[split dove]

just one so far

[covert tapir]

a big bug is coming yes

[past wind]

That poll they’ve made

[stray elm]

I specifically meant 'major' updates

[past wind]

I mean both, new creature and new engine. Also, probably other updates will be done by that time

[stray elm]

I have doubts the creature will be part of the engine update.
But the engine update alone, yeah, is a major update.

[past wind]

It’s hard to tell anything… they are communicating through memes 🤣

[stray elm]

But you got what I meant.

[past wind]

Yeah, I’m just joking because they aren’t informing us about what’s to expect

Actually I’m already out. I’m not playing Ark since last year.

I’m still opening it here and there, but not actually playing it, if you know what I mean

Yeah

[blissful perch]

I want to clear the king titan with flobs before ark 2

but that's the final thing I want to do with the game...otherwise I'm done

[split dove]

the mutation breeding is killing me

[blissful perch]

I tried to make it easier :/

[split dove]

🔴 🔫 them if it fails 😂

i'm pretty sure we could at least do manticore

[tropic forge]

no need for mutation line infact you dont need dinos at all to do king titan only the titans and mech for alpha

[desert abyss]

I'm seeing more games include Twitch integrations, where viewers can affect the game. I'd be curious if Ark 2 did something like that (would obviously have to be a private server or even just single player).

[covert tapir]

ark 2 developers better have more importanz things to work on than twich viewer integration!

[past wind]

Right? A discord integration is way more important for all the player base.

[split dove]

considering ark players already use discord for trading and other stuff it would be used more than a twitch integration ever would

[untold ingot]

Yeah, a discord connection would be 10x better than a twitch thing

[left carbon]

Nooblets knows whats up

[untold ingot]

Getting clickbait views? Sure lol

[split dove]

the guy doesn't even try to research, he'd know that the concepts they shared would already be done in-game, as was said with the carno one.

[untold ingot]

He (like most you tubers talking about ark2) are a bit out of the loop lol

[tropic crag]

I've never once seen Nooblets talk here, that's evidence enough lmao

[untold ingot]

I mean, he could be getting sources from other places, but his rant doesn't even have the most recent conversation stuff in it

[lime flicker]

I’m a bob 🙂😋

[split dove]

he's not even in here, just like the other clickbait ones

[tropic crag]

I love it when people contribute nothing to the conversation

[split dove]

the man and his fanbase represent the whole -31 iq portion of the community

[past wind]

TBF, this channel is more productive than the animated series one

[split dove]

we're not devolving to bob spam

if it ever happens it probably would be Santiago vs orc spam

🧌 🪓

[tropic crag]

But at least everyone there is contributing to the meme at hand, "Boogeyman" just spouts nonsense every once in awhile, and then reacts with the clink like it's the right time to use it

[split dove]

the man didn't even mention the fact that the concept arts shown are already done in-game and that there is a roadmap being shared this month, wich is something talked about a lot in this chat

[short fulcrum]

🧌🪓

[lime flicker]

😔

I’m just here for fun cuz I can’t wait for ark 2!!!! 🙂

[rare heart]

They should add

Giant wildebeest

[rare heart]

What he do

[river canyon]

bros being honest

i dont think years but i also dont think 2023 unless its january

still no roadmap

no gameplay

no updates from them

probably going to be delayed until 2024

[lime flicker]

I’ve been really hoping that’s not the case, I don’t have much input tho because I don’t know how WC does their releases, just reading this chat I’ve learned WC likes to delay, but I e heard they like to surprise as well, I havent seen many advertisements either and I believe that’s something there going to do, slowly build hype with snippets and the gameplay will get massive views

[haughty ore]

is that confirmed?

[potent hull]

the rodmap will be one of the 3 Friday left is ether this Friday or next one or the one after that

[lime flicker]

They did say a while back that gameplay will be the next thing to come, so I’m guessing it is 90% made and they are adding finishing touches, otherwise idk why they said it e

I’m ngl I check this discord every day lol

Hoping for gameplay

😞

[lime forge]

We all do

[thick violet]

Suiiii

@drowsy ibex

where is my release date

[untold ingot]

Honestly same

[tropic forge]

ping devs!!! make a riot for what as being promise

[covert tapir]

they didnt break or made any promises

your lucky you get to play the game once it comes out

[winged dome]

🍻

And Ced is a community manager 😂

[rare heart]

Only if its a good game will it ever be considered lucky we can even play it

[rancid harness]

It'll be good. Not much they can do to screw this concept up.

[rare heart]

Mm

I want it to be good

They could def screw it up

No game has guranteed success

[rancid harness]

Literal worst case is the modding community has to step in and make the game good. It'll be good whether wildcard makes it or we do.

[rare heart]

I guess

Id prefer wc just do it right the first time

[rancid harness]

That's even the whole point of ark 2, accessible mods for all consoles.

[untold ingot]

I mean, if it takes mods to make it good, wildcard has an excellent track record at taking the good out of good mods and making it official

[rare heart]

I dont think modding is the main point but more of a major qol

[rancid harness]

Unofficial ark is still ark, and that's where most players are rn anyway ye?

[untold ingot]

No lol

At least not for pvp

[rare heart]

If a game doesnt have to rely on mods to be good then its not a good game

Skyrim for example, doesnt need mods to be good when it was first made. Mods just helped prolong that game, keeping it a good game.

Id assume thats the goal with this game because the modding is the same concept

[rancid harness]

Doing research and most people seem to be playing either single player or unofficial. Obviously pvp is primarily official, but that seems to be the minority of players tbh

[untold ingot]

40% roughly

But where are you getting the numbers from lol

As far as I know there is no public access numbers that have the statistics like that

[tropic forge]

you know you can make a research on your on mind and come up whit the exact result right 😉

[rancid harness]

Use battlemetrics and sort by players, check uptime

[south lance]

that seems really tedious

[thick violet]

Suiii

[south lance]

but the data is available technically on battlemetrics iirc

[rancid harness]

Top servers are predominantly unofficial and beginner servers. But do beginner servers really count lol

[south lance]

so fair enough

[thick violet]

what yall talking about

[south lance]

highly concentrated playerbase

how many beginner servers are there even

[rancid harness]

Few afaik

[south lance]

10?

[tropic forge]

wait wait, you mention single play, so how you know then?

[rancid harness]

Less per region afaik

[untold ingot]

That doesn't give you an accurate count though

[rancid harness]

Where you getting your data?

[tropic forge]

damn it why raq why, that was a secret

[rancid harness]

That was the best I could find

[south lance]

?

innacurate in what sense

[untold ingot]

I am using old percentages thst a dev told me like a year ago lol

[rancid harness]

Weird

[untold ingot]

It doesn't do overall counts, only popular servers

It's not a good metrjx

[south lance]

for unofficials?

or wait

i misread

[tropic forge]

i lost count how many times i was waiting for server to come back from crash and dint show up on battlemetrics after 30min if not longer plus numbers on the server was incorrect as hell

[rancid harness]

I don't have any measurable metrics for single player, but it's possible to total up the highest player count servers on unofficial/official, then subtract that from the current player count on steam to get a VERY rough estimate

If you wanted one

[south lance]

i never really had this issue with official

battlemetrics usually has a short delay but only a few minutes ime

it might break if like 30 players come online suddenly tho

[rancid harness]

He's saying it shows the big communities, but not the billions of servers with 1 player in them

[south lance]

ya

i mean

[untold ingot]

That doesn't work because a lot of unofficials aren't registered on battlemetrics

[south lance]

you could theoretically find all the players on a server in a given week on every server maybe

idk if you could search through every unofficial server

[rancid harness]

I'm referring to the actual server list ingame

[south lance]

and it doesnt show dedis or sp

[rancid harness]

This obviously only works per platform

[untold ingot]

It's a very iffy way to do it, and it's inaccurate

[rancid harness]

Correct.

Ballpark, my friend

Kind of like a dev telling you a year ago

[untold ingot]

Fair

[rancid harness]

Regardless, your 40% pvp official statement plus what I've found through battlemetrics presents a compelling argument for "people like unofficial ark better"

[south lance]

they do

[rancid harness]

I'd think that's what the original point of this long "talk" was

Tbh don't remember already

[south lance]

plus more people also play modded dedis with friends that arent counted in unofficial lists

which function almost identically to unofficials besides needing to be paid

[rancid harness]

Free is a pretty good price.

[south lance]

ya

[rancid harness]

Also ark 2 because staying on topic xD

[south lance]

works really well with these new cracked rigs too so tether isnt that big an issue

in terms of ark2 its just more support that devs need to get community content more integrated

its the most important thing arguably

[rancid harness]

I'm glad they're working with a company that has experience doing this sort of cross platform mod integration

They could certainly use some of the work to be deferred to studios that have more experience and lighten the load.

[south lance]

grove street?

[rancid harness]

I mean that too. But no, I'm talking about the Ark 2 cross platform mod integration.

[south lance]

i dunno which companies are working on ark2

[rancid harness]

I don't remember the company name, would have to sort through interviews to get it

[south lance]

i just know grove street is there to port to mobile

[rancid harness]

And it's bedtime

[south lance]

gn

[rancid harness]

Nighty

[tropic crag]

Mod.io I think is the one he was thinking of

Which, from what I've heard, are kinda ok-ish

Heard of issues though as well so maybe not the most tippy top of mod platforms to deal with, but then again neither are Mod.db or the other popular ones

[prisma pike]

Using mod.io on Xbox is extremely annoying.

[tropic crag]

What game uses it? Never seen it

[prisma pike]

Space engineers

[tropic crag]

Ah, never did play that much on console

[prisma pike]

Yeah console version is cheeks

[tropic crag]

Didn't know it had mod support, but that's cool I guess

[prisma pike]

Using mod.io makes you open tabs on Microsoft edge, subscribe to stuff on steam and then usually reset the game.

But navigating the tabs on Xbox is horrible

[tropic crag]

I mean, at least there's mods 😅

[prisma pike]

Yeah ig. Most mods you have to use an mnk for tho cause there's usually no controller support or if there is it's really bad controls.

If it's a mod that adds new functions that is

[tropic crag]

Sadge

Maybe they'll be implementing a new form of interface, as the store page somewhat hints at

[prisma pike]

Hopefully it's built into the game

Something like syrims mod section maybe. But actually shows results for what you search lol.

[tropic crag]

That's the goal imo

[mortal siren]

Grove Street is co-developing Ark 2 with WC, not working to port it to mobile

They have talked about porting it to mobile but they said that it won’t be soon

[south lance]

man

[verbal wind]

because mobile porting is real important. /s

[tropic crag]

Who honestly likes mobile gaming? That shit is so boring tbh, and is easily the worst form of gaming to ever exist

[mortal siren]

Sorry to disappoint you.
But I see that you got Ark 1 on PC so you could play Ark 2 on PC as well and there’s always the PC Gamepass to not buy the game full price.

And for performance, most new games that have came out recently have FSR 2.0 which made these games run well on low-end GPUs so if Ark 2 gets FSR 2.0 as well, it should run well on most computers.

[south lance]

i dont have an issue around the mobile port being late

i have an issue with grove street having a bigger impact on gave dev

[verbal wind]

i don't have an issue with mobile port being never

[south lance]

ive played ark mobile

they trashed the game when they tried to go away from the original games design

i want them to have as little influence on the design of ark2 as possible

[south lance]

ark mobile wasnt actually that bad until they implemented a transfer system that cost 5 dollars or ~2-100 days worth of ads (the ads for currency didnt work for months in my case)

then a couple major bugs and design decisions later it basically became a meme and within 1.5 years most of the players who werent on youtuber pve servers got to pc

even some major youtubers transitioned to pc because mobile kept getting worse

the only cool design decision was dungeons in hindsight

there was likely a lot of limitations with the platform that caused these issues tbf but still

like half the island dinos were only available in temporary dungeons that you might have to wait weeks to get back again.

but its not like they couldnt get new creature spawns on the map since they added griffins

and everything was rgb

[tropic crag]

There were youtubers that played specifically mobile? That's a new one lmao

Grove Street themselves aren't terrible, they actually made some pretty cool features and did a lot of good work on the Switch port, so I would worry more about the fact that mobile games even exist than about Grove Street "ruining" the game or anything even remotely in that vein

Also, we both know that a fringe case shouldn't be considered as the rule, shame on you

[astral token]

Used to be, most moved to PC long back

[untold totem]

GTA "The Definitive Edition"

[tropic crag]

Look into it a little more than what the headlines reported, lol

Wasn't their fault at all

[blissful perch]

The issue is mobile gaming and ark should never have been in the same sentence

Unless ark 3 is an xcom style tactics game. Which I’d play 100x more than any other form of ark 👀

It’s ark if there’s taming 🧠

Xcom is turn based tactical squad combat usually on some sort of soft grid system yes

[robust dew]

Let's face it ark 2 isnt ready for realise if you look at the signs u will see new dino coming rumors of a new map ark 1 being updated to ue5 eather they now its gonna fail or its at least 2 to 3 years till ready

[blissful perch]

You’re not wrong. Ark 2 is not ready for release, or else they’d have released it. 🧠

[robust dew]

We were mentnto get gameplay during the dame awards nothing we have had no in game screenshots only concept art gonna say it wild card you need to give people their money back for the preorder and tell us the truth

Other wise you will loose alot of players

[blissful perch]

Pre orders were never made available

You can’t have spent any money on ark 2, as no such opportunity was made. WC has no fiscal transactions to customers for ark 2

[robust dew]

I'm sure I seen it on steam

[blissful perch]

But you can’t buy anything. It’s just a steam coming soon

I got this Flobs, you can rest

[split dove]

don't even bother, he's playing ark for 3 days straight atm. it tells a lot what kind of ark chatter he is

[terse moth]

im exited for ark 2

[split dove]

source? dude just trust me bro
if you even did any basic research (unlike nooblets) you'd know that the concept arts they shared were already done in-game. it's the most basic version of saying ''it's gonna be in Ark 2 and this is what it's gonna be/look like'' before they're ready to share the gameplay.
Speaking of the gameplay it might have a time window for when it's shown with the roadmap coming this month wich is right around the corner. Wildcard also never said if/when anything would be shown, anybody thinking that is just wildly speculating.
Wildcard is also not forced to give you anything before release lol, anything they share before release is just a bonus for the community, gameplay being shown closer to launch instead of like 1 year before can indicate it's closer to the final version instead of something that might be changed in the year between it's showcase and release.

if you managed to buy Ark 2 somewhere already you might've been scammed lol, steam has many other games with just ''2023'' dates moved to ''coming soon'' bc the devs of those games haven't given a specific date yet.

The upcoming roadmap will likely cover a lot to do with Ark 2, Ark 1 in UE5 and the animated series, as it's a roadmap for the ark franchise, so quit whining ''no info yet, must be delayed'' until it's shown please 😅

[worldly garden]

Sorry but no we were never meant to get gameplay during game awards. Everything around gameplay expectations has been speculation.

[pseudo garden]

Does anyone know if ark 2 will be released as early access or complete?

[astral token]

Me trying to find your brain:

I’m looking bro gimme some time

I’m sure we’ll find something

[astral token]

exited or excited ☠️

[split dove]

it's confirmed as early access launch on PC and Xbox series x/s

[astral token]

[pseudo garden]

Okay, at least that means that we get to play it earlier than if it were fully released 🙃

[winged dome]

Actual clown take 😂

[ripe cedar]

Early access

We dont know how far to 1.0 it will be though

Probably further than ark 1 was because its been in development longer than ark 1 but then again the core systems may have taken way longer as well so its hard to tell

[mortal siren]

Xbox will have a Game Showcase stream on June 11th
If WC was waiting for a big game event to reveal the Ark 2 gameplay trailer then that’s the best time.

[split dove]

they might also be held back by their deal with Xbox, as they may want to save ark 2 for their showcase and it's pretty obvious some devs want to share more stuff while being unable to via 99% likely NDA's

the last one was 2 weeks ago, let's hope it's something new this friday

the ''average'' part shown above us wich you fall in is, the normal portion isn't

[winged dome]

Meanwhile, the experienced are fully expecting a delay on the road map with our clinks prepped

[worldly garden]

They weaklings.

[split dove]

if it ain't delayed it will be a welcome surprise

[rare heart]

Is it tied to this month?

[split dove]

they said it's right around the corner, could mean this week, next one or the one afters crunch. and yes it's tied to this month

[blissful perch]

It’s March WC time. Don’t catch me clinking to your msgs lotus

[split dove]

We're excited to announce that we'll reveal a development roadmap across all iterations of the ARK Franchise next month. From the crunch on february 11th

at most i think next week, ain't no way they're leaving it till the last day of the month

[rare heart]

I doubt it

[past wind]

Do you know Wildcard?

[rare heart]

Im hoping dilo is more accurate

doesn’t necessarily have to be the big one though

and that its actually scary when tamed

[past wind]

Accurate dilo is boring. No poison, no collar…

[rare heart]

Overdone, unoriginal, bland, cheap….

[past wind]

It’s a game

[rare heart]

Above all is practically useless

[past wind]

Gameplay > accuracy

[rare heart]

I just said that

Its barely helpful for beginners other than providing food

[past wind]

I’d rather see other dino than accurate dilo.

[rare heart]

what does that even mean

[past wind]

The ark dilo but larger would be fine

[rare heart]

No dumb frill, then im fine

Thats not even an ark thing that it has one

[past wind]

It’s cooler this way

[rare heart]

Not really

[past wind]

Your opinion, my opinion yada yada

[rare heart]

just embedded itself in popculture for 30 years so its the normal

[past wind]

In the end they will choose what’s more popular

[rare heart]

Most afraid to try anything new

duh

poison is fine, useless rat dilo is not

[ripe marsh]

still praying for size variety of same creatures🤞

[past wind]

Me neither. I would be happy with a larger one. With more features.

[rare heart]

ill accept rat dilo this time around if it provides SOMETHING of use early game

[past wind]

Would be nice. I remember there were mods that did that

[blissful perch]

A shoulder pet dilo would be great

[rare heart]

xd

[blissful perch]

A poison spitting shoulder pet would be a good addition…maybe get a fire one so paddy can be happy

[rare heart]

Just add an actual venomous snake as a shoulder pet to deal poison damage to things that grab you, ez

[ripe marsh]

sizes don't necessarily have to better than the smaller ones, could be a pros and cons

[split dove]

i'm only nailing it down to the latest possible times this month

[ripe cedar]

I mean we have been getting stuff every 2 weeks so it makes sense for this friday

[split dove]

be patient and not send them death threats bc you're impatient (don't be like the lower lifeforms)

[ripe cedar]

If they have to ‘delay’ the roadmap then that would mean they have no idea what they are doing i guess

[split dove]

honestly i'm also thinking it's every 2 weeks since the carno one, wich was every 4 weeks inbetween that one and the brachi/stego one

tweak out and bully the dumber chatters

[lime flicker]

lol

[split dove]

if they're going with something every 2 weeks they could

[ripe cedar]

They will release 1/10 of the roadmap

[lethal vault]

They are releasing ark 1 with unreal engine 5?

[flint palm]

Ark 2 update?

[split dove]

they're doing a engine update for Ark 1 going to UE5 wich will be free

[split dove]

atm none, we might have a big update regarding ark 2 with the roadmap coming this month. this could include time windows/dates for gameplay and release along with dates for more reveals

[lethal vault]

So it's mainly performance update? bcz I dont think they will update textures and models.

[split dove]

it could either make performance better or worse as it depends on how they implement it, but the textures, lighting and particle effects are definitely gonna be better.

[untold ingot]

It's an engine update, not performance or models

You can read what Ue5 does to get a better idea of what the changes will most likely be

[lethal vault]

I think they will put some time and improve textures and stuff bcz why bother switching to Unreal 5 when u are releasing ark 2.

They will probably delay ark 2 by another year or 2.

[tropic forge]

🍿

[split dove]

yh, just bc the Ark 1 team is doing something definitely means the Ark 2 team needs more time. definitely couldn't be bc they wanted to do it for players on old gen and playstation that will still play Ark 1. we will know if ark 2 is delayed or not with the roadmap this month.

[untold ingot]

That doesn't make any sense lol. They are making the switch because ark1 isn't dead yet, and most of the groundwork was done with the switch edition

[lethal vault]

Ark 1 and Ark 2 have same team right? why studio will hire 2 teams?

[split dove]

same studio, just split in teams with different projects

[lethal vault]

Okay cool

[winged dome]

🍻

[brittle coyote]

Having multiple teams for multiple projects happens all the time. Wildcard was starting to lean heavily into having two separate teams for Ark I and Ark II when they started hiring more members of the community and posting job positions. Even these teams will more than likely have other teams to work on individual projects since implementing an old game into a new generation engine can take loads of time and designing a game from the ground up can take even longer.

Especially with Ark II going in a different direction in gameplay from what we are use to in Ark I.

[past wind]

So far, we just saw a meme. No further info about this engine update.

That’s the biggest issue with Wildcard lately

Instead of keeping quiet, they think it’s a good idea to publish huge news through memes and short tweets

The ue5 meme raised more concerns than a sentiment of good news

People said it was a sign Ark 2 would be delayed or canceled. That all resources would me moved to ark 1 etc.

Whenever they can’t share more, just keep it quiet

Well, it’s not like Wc isn’t helping them

[lethal vault]

Yeah maybe they want to keep updating Ark 1 even after releasing Ark 2.

Ark 1 has a good player base.

[brittle coyote]

Which is all purely based on speculation and assumptions sparking from frustration. Even if Wildcard revealed a release date, these same players would still not be satisfied.

[past wind]

My point is, WC shouldn’t communicate through memes. Or they officially announce the update with all the details, or just keep it quiet until they can do it.

[lime flicker]

I literally looked up the production phases of game development (can take 1-4 or more years) and tried guessing which one ark 2 is in 🤪

[prisma pike]

Wow that's crazy

[past wind]

Ark 1 released in early access 6 months after the start of the project

[lime flicker]

Omg really 😳

[past wind]

Yeah, it’s up to the developer/publisher to release it or not. It’s not really about the time itself

[lime flicker]

True, on the milestone list before beta, alpha and pre alpha… was first playable and vertical slice (fully playable sample sent to studios or investors) I think that’s where we’re at 🙂 next would be pre alpha if they even do a pre alpha, did ark 1 have a beta ?

Oh early access

[brittle coyote]

I think the developers are allowed to have fun while interacting with their community, my friend. Sometimes that means teasing us to show that they are still actively working on improving the game or delivering something new. Just because you aren't getting the details you want when you want it in the way that you want it, doesn't mean what you are getting isn't good enough nor should it mean the developers aren't allowed to release information in a way that they feel is appropriate.

[winged dome]

Ark1 does have a beta, we're all still playing it 😂

[past wind]

Of course they can, but they will have to deal with the results of it. And IMO it wasn’t good. But whatever. If people here are ok with the way they are communicating, that’s fine.

Nah, I don’t believe WC follows the industry timming. 😂

[split dove]

it's gonna decide if you're gonna tweak out again for having to wait just a little longer

[past wind]

Im from the future, you will be disappointed

[prisma pike]

I'm from the futurer he's lying

[past wind]

Your disappointment is around the corner ™️

[past wind]

What are the tidbits for this week?

In my parallel world, we had community’s corner and boosted rates 🦾

[prisma pike]

An undetailed roadmap and no evo

[past wind]

No evo, there will be riot

[prisma pike]

Ark dead no evo

I miss my weekly 2x evo for years straight back in 2016

[untold ingot]

Yes, ark2 being out in 2016 had Evo events 😜

[split dove]

i'm also guessing the animated series will be out very soon and the rest might be here sooner than we think

[winged dome]

I think S1 has been done for a while

[ripe cedar]

it has been

[covert tapir]

well since s2 is supposed to drop this year aswell i think s1 will be around the corner

[potent hull]

i am still her hoping to see the rd map names after flobs in the rd map it will tell us what flobs will do in ark 2 lol

[tropic forge]

🍿

[tropic crag]

I mean, I was just asking an honest question, but aight I guess

[slim zodiac]

What kinda biomes y’all Wana see in ark 2? I wana see a very extensive bog biome, like the one in genesis 1. A big sinkhole that leads into an underground swamp biome with waterfalls and how aberration has the skylights, like that. That would be really cool.

The underground swamp would be underground below the bog, I imagine it would be like the ceiling on aberration with roots and skylights

[desert swallow]

A sewer level

[slim zodiac]

Yes

Would have all the carcasses like the crystal isles swamp

[desert swallow]

or just green slime, platforms and ladders

[slim zodiac]

Mario biome

I want a biome that gives a aberration vibe, a giant ravine that goes down at an angle that first is like a jungle, then the bioluminescent zone and then leads to lava rivers. Should give aberration vibes

Aberration is such an amazing environment, would be cool to see something similar is ark 2, RTX aberration

Hopefully the lava wouldnt deathly blinding like the molten element if it were in ark 2

I hope you get to explore the ruined rings of the colony ship

Sorry ring ^ not plural

[mint swan]

I hope for a good mesa desert or mountain biome

[untold ingot]

I want an ocean, a giant canyon like the grand canyon for fliers, an extensive cave system like ab, a full scale mountain snow biome, a giant tree biome, and a grasslands with really tall grass

[slim zodiac]

Omg yes

[lime flicker]

lol

[untold ingot]

I don't expect to really see much of that in game, but I really want to lol

[lime flicker]

Based on the trailer I saw some carnivorous plants in there

🫣

[untold ingot]

Those would be noce

[lime flicker]

Y’all want the swamp sickness back?

I remember one time some guy fed me narco berries and got me infected

[untold ingot]

I'm not super picky either way

Most of ark gameplay makes the illnesses in it negligible, so i don't really anticipate seeing them

[lime forge]

Swamp fever is meta not negligible

[prisma pike]

Yeah in 2016 maybe

Speed is irrelevant and has been for years

[winged dome]

Meshing and Ratholes are all the rage now

[lime forge]

Maybe for you stinky 1x bois

[prisma pike]

Ur stinky

[lime forge]

Nuh uh. I shower with Caress Daily Silk Bodywash.

[slim zodiac]

Sexy

[mint swan]

Imaging being hyped for ARK 2 😂 😂 😂 😂 They aren't even able to fix ARK 1. Tons of players quitting everyday bcoz wildcar is not able to fix cheaters.

[jaunty fable]

Imagine hating ARK/Wildcard so much that you join their discord to write this kind of stuff 😂

[stray elm]

They're a new server member.
Their criticism is invalid until they at least have a week here.

[mint swan]

I don’t think Ark 2 will fix every problem Ark 1 had, but I am still very hyped for it. I hope they fix the lighting and remove inis. One of the biggest problems I have with pvp is the game is too dark to be enjoyable, and people give themselves a drastically unfair advantage by modifying the game. There needs to be a balance

[stray elm]

They already have removed INI's

[mint swan]

Preview mode shouldn’t be allowed on servers

[tropic crag]

What's preview mode?

[stray elm]

A mode to preview stuff, I'd assume

[lime forge]

Certain times and places are supposed to be dark. But ini has already been removed.

[prisma pike]

A command that you do in single player to make the game display different previews of the games textures so that there's no darkness or brightness from the environment.

[tropic crag]

Ah, so something that doesn't apply to multiplayer servers? Huh... ok, I guess 😅

Maybe I'm missing something, idk

[lime forge]

It can be enabled on multiplayer servers. Not sure if it is on official though.

[fallen spear]

the whole debate on brightness is redundant. games like dayz and tark have the darkness set like that so people can use it as an advantage. if you cant fight in the dark and be aware, then maybe pvp isn't for you. adapt and learn or simply stop.

every monitor has settings to turn the brightness up

its not others having an unfair advantage, just them having a regular monitor with basic settings.

[lime flicker]

I have a feeling about tomorrow bois 👀🫣

[astral token]

hmm

A bad feeling?

[lime flicker]

I went to a gypsy to get my fortune told and asked when is ark 2 coming out

[tropic forge]

🍿

[lime forge]

I got a feelin!

[tropic crag]

My point stands, then (barring the case where it does work on official, which is a whole other can of worms at that point.) Why would this be considered an issue? If the person in question plays on an unofficial with it on and doesn't like it, can't they just find a different one?

[lime forge]

That tonight’s gonna be a good night!

[drowsy hamlet]

Ay this coming this year still or in 3 years?

[tropic crag]

Ding ding ding, we got another one!

[drowsy hamlet]

The never been on time before so why should the be on time now the closest to on time was Abb that only had 1 hour delay

[split dove]

''this coming this year or is it delayed again'' the roadmap that's coming this month should hopefully have release dates/time windows for gameplay and launch.

[split dove]

funny how they always cry it's delayed, but when it's on time and unplayable they will cry. almost like they delay the game to make it better for launch instead of a broken mess at original launch

[tropic crag]

You're completely wrong. Scorched was released on time, as was every map since Lost Island, as well as the Cacharo. Check your facts and try harder next time

[split dove]

oh boohoo, i had to wait 1 hour extra for aberration to come out

[tropic crag]

For real though 😂

And you know damn well they played the shit out of it too, even though it was an hour later 🤣

[split dove]

i'd be down for more new players to join Ark 2 and slowly replace some of the current ones

[tropic forge]

you know very well old ones will comeback for sure 🤣 unless ark 2 pulls a really good pc that alone will cut ppl from pc leaving xbox as only alternative 🤣

[split dove]

unless ark 2 pulls a really good pc that alone will cut ppl from pc leaving xbox as only alternative

[tropic forge]

what? i got a really good pc and still was getting like 30 fps on final rockwell fight, even in general i could't pass 70 fps 🤣

[untold ingot]

Tbh, most dlc maps have been released on time

[split dove]

could've worded it more clearly like ''it requires a really good pc''

[tropic forge]

ho right sorry only sleep like 1h maybe 1h30min

[unborn galleon]

So when is the information for "all iterations of the ark franchise" 😒 wasn't it this month?

I cant believe this people gonna wait till the last week of this month

I just cant Lol

[tropic forge]

maybe today, maybe tomorrow maybe end of the month who knows

[split dove]

yh i forgot a month is apparently only 15 days

[unborn galleon]

Wild card as its best

I read somewhere is going to be on the last crunch of the month prob the ending week

😶

[split dove]

everything you read is speculation

[tropic forge]

you read or youre saying 🤣

[tropic crag]

Whoever wrote that isn't Wildcard, and therefore does not matter

[unborn galleon]

Wild Card huu

[tropic crag]

Don't be so gullible/follow the herd/etc

[unborn galleon]

I got something for them

[tropic forge]

maybe its on the latest nooblet clip 🤣

[split dove]

those videos are filled with the ark brainlets group

[tropic crag]

You're better than that (or maybe you aren't, idfk lol)

[unborn galleon]

I got a special place for wild card in the botton

My botton

😂😂😂

[tropic crag]

Mans has a case of the Ark chatter IQ plague

You hate to see it

Get well soon

[split dove]

• 531 compared to average -321 iq

he also has a case of nograsstoucheditis along with nopatiencetus like the average ark chatter

[unborn galleon]

I just cant wait to see

[tropic forge]

but you hate wildcard

thats contradiction

[tropic crag]

They all do, those typical chatters

[unborn galleon]

"All iteration of the Ark Franchise info" Lol. Look we have the animated series and a slap on unreal engine 5 to the already 30 fps laggy game ark 1, we forgot to mention Ark 2 yea it is going to be Delayed till 2030. Brought to you by Wildcard 😆😆😆😆

[tropic crag]

That's their secret cap, they all hate WC

But they're going to play it anyways, and we all know it

[tropic forge]

hell yeh, its a hate/love relationship

[unborn galleon]

For sure. I love ark am going to play it. Do I love Wild card? Big NOPE

[tropic crag]

Anywho, before I lose more braincells, goodbye

[unborn galleon]

Wildcards are the masters. They have a made a great love/hate relationship just like my Ex and me

😆😆😆

[split dove]

''Wildcard shouldn't delay stuff and release it at the date they said. why tf is it so buggy and unoptimized Wildcard, you should've worked on it more'' you idiots always cry if it's delayed, but then you cry when it's released on time but it needed more time to be better optimized. Delays happen for a reason to give the devs more time to release the game in a better form. but i forget the average ark chatter can't have the slightest bit of patience as they never leave their house or do anything of importance in their lives.

[unique thorn]

It's very true

[split dove]

and people wonder why i wouldn't be mad if new players joining from Ark 2 would replace some of the average ark chatters, we need more normal people with functioning brains.

[wintry urchin]

Imo don't announce a release date unless you're certain you can have a good product by that date

Just my take

[split dove]

same, imo it's a smart move to just have the release date be ''2023'' until they can announce a release window/date they're sure they can hit

[wintry urchin]

Exactly

If they came out the gate with just 2023 then it would be like "ok it could be a month or a year"

[split dove]

but for the average impatient ark chatter waiting for a better not rushed version of the game is bad.

[wintry urchin]

I used to care then I just forgot about it

No point in coming here to fume or speculate about nothing when we haven't been given anything, easier to just play other games and forget ark2 exists

[split dove]

better to wait until the roadmap wich might have info about the release

[wintry urchin]

I'm guessing mid 2024 for ark2

Since we still haven't seen gameplay and only seen 2 trailers

[winged dome]

🍻

[wintry urchin]

As well as some concept art ig

[verbal wind]

it'll be sometime this decade

[wintry urchin]

If we're lucky

[split dove]

but they've already mentioned the concept arts show are already done in-game

[winged dome]

🍻

[verbal wind]

ok it doesn't count if you're going back an hour

[winged dome]

Sure does

[split dove]

a clink's a clink

🍻

[winged dome]

Thems the rules

[ripe cedar]

Maybe everyone saying it will release 2025 is talking about 1.0 full release and we are just too stupid to realize, they obviously dont mean early access

[split dove]

or playstation release

[past wind]

Ps release may never happen

The last Friday this month will be the 31. The day after is April fools.

[astral token]

Average is -35

There’s a few good ones out there

But yes in this particular instance I’d say you’re close to the mark

[winged dome]

• has a chance to decide the fate

So what happens if we don't get anything tomorrow?

[rare heart]

Hopefully megaloceros is cool in this one

One of the biggest let downs is looking at the megaloceros dossier and then looking at it in game

A deer can be cool

It just suffered from outdated syndrome

Prey animals as long as they offer something fun just help the overall feel of the game

Why i said can

makes no sense but ok

When you remake the game and can literally make anything anyway you want it there isnt anything can be considered worth it/not worth it

Plus i wouldnt be surprised if it was in the game anyways because it is one of arks default creatures

Ur opinion

Id consider megaloceros a secondary need dino which is most of arks island dinos/actual dinos.

Behind like obvious ones that need to be in the game

Erm ok

i dont think they will do that initially

[blissful perch]

giant deer would be cool

female megaloceros in ark 1 was pure buns tho...in ark 2 please let them both do something lol

[rare heart]

better dinos makes them aids though…

Giving you hyper bleeed or something

[blissful perch]

the issue is that like any small/medium mount it's ass in ark 1 unless it's one of 3 cave tames that have absurdly high base stats or bleed/etc

[rare heart]

but i dont think simple status effects dont make the creature fin necessarily

[blissful perch]

it suffered from "oops there are higher statted creatures that do the same thing" syndrome

[rare heart]

thats because dinosaurs were just stats thats what the previous game suffers from the most

levels and all that we know

Kinda why i want a skill tree

With “levels” just being tied to more dynamic breeding

For megaloceros though, you could do a lot with it. As with any dino

But ppl just gripe about designs/viablility because theyre only references/what comes to mind is a shitty, or stereotypical view of said creature

I mean sure, obvious take

[potent marten]

are u kidding?

really?

[winged dome]

In a world of dinosaurs and fantasy creatures, why would I ever want to use a Horse, or a Megaloceros Thicc Deer

[split dove]

if i wanted horses or deer i wouldn't be playing a dinosaur survival game 🚬

[winged dome]

Exactly. Kinda niche, but that's why I hate when some Unofficial (RP) servers restrict dinos in favor of horses and shit. If I wanted that, I'd play Red Dead

[split dove]

you could always just play medieval games if you wanted horses and the likes to be important

[winged dome]

And so many servers try to do this, it's actually irritating

[rare heart]

Horse is cool

If it wasnt slightly inconvenient to tame itd be fire

I agree their mid but then again its just poor game design (they hate when i hate on the best shit game ever made)

Horse if it were up to me would be the 2nd fastest in the entire game by base running speed

And tame it by just bonding because relying on the map to provide carrots is dumb af

Horse should be like an easy reliable early game mount. Which it kind of is in ark 1 except no one cares when they have to get carrots

[desert swallow]

less time to get a ptera and you level up fast enough to get one if you know what you are doing.

you could go to rag and get a horse fairly easily but it's more efficient to just note run

[rare heart]

Ye

its stamina doesnt matter either cause i could just get an iggy of all things and run forever

Just a meh creature

It would make a fine addition, granted with a horse you cant think too much outside of the box….. probably would just have really good stats inorder to carry noobs to mid game possibly

[desert swallow]

imo, in most survival games flyers should be an end game mount.

[rare heart]

Not necessarily

Rlly just need to be more realistic to make them more fair

Like flyers should have basically no good flyer vs land matchups except obvious ones

[rancid harness]

People used it for the swamp cave for a long while

[desert swallow]

flyers aren't about fighting, their big benefit is getting from point A to point B with zero resistance

that's what makes ark easiest once you are in the air.

[rancid harness]

And that's why no flyers ark is peak

[rare heart]

Idk about that

Ark 1 sure

[desert swallow]

what else are we talking about?

[rancid harness]

Personal take lol, ik lots of people like flyers

[desert swallow]

for sure, people would complain if they nerfed flyers through stats or making them 90+

making them "end game"

[rancid harness]

That's what they should beeeeeeeeeeeee

[desert swallow]

but they have a chance to make things "balanced" with ark 2

and I say "balanced" in quotes because that's going to mean something diff to a lot of different people

[rare heart]

Idk about end game but they shouldnt be good for direct combat 90% of the time

Shouldnt be early game tho

Unless its with other flyers

[rancid harness]

I like the pick up/drop tactic, but the rest is a little unrealistic in terms of survivability and general combat viability

Those wings get tapped even a little and it's done

[drowsy hamlet]

Nobody cares about scorched tho that map might as well not exist its shit

[serene onyx]

I care about it lol

[drowsy hamlet]

How can a human play that map

[desert swallow]

Only if developers don't close the loop holes to make it possible, the key is making these end game things have requirements that can only be met through progression. Could you speed run to end game after a while, probably. But then you are at "end game"

[drowsy hamlet]

🤨

[serene onyx]

It aint hard

[drowsy hamlet]

[rancid harness]

SE introduced wyverns. Without it we wouldn't have ragnarok, or Crystal wyverns

[serene onyx]

True

[drowsy hamlet]

Okay fair but that's the only good thing tho

[desert swallow]

Right but we're talking theoretical for ark 2

[rancid harness]

It's also a very fun challenge, possibly one of the hardest maps to play on

[serene onyx]

Yeah

[drowsy hamlet]

I played it I just find it not having a lot of challenges it's just sand nothing else

[rancid harness]

I mean yeah if you play boosted it's easy and boring

Just like the rest of ark

[drowsy hamlet]

Boosted? That's way to easy I mean breeding I do put up as I am. Not breeding gigas for 2 weeks but everything else I keep basic most of the time :)

[winged dome]

Scorched is fun and I enjoy it as a map but I won't deny it is the least fleshed out in terms of content. Plus half the storms restricting so much gameplay until they're over is pretty meh

[rare heart]

I hope desert returns but with more diversity in its regions/life

Scorched was only good for dragons and i guess mantises thats about it

Desert life is diverse irl…. Its not that hard

Also adding other biomes like savannah and mesas, etc

• alien planet

Ok?

There is plenty of arid regions that work fine

Desert is a loose term

Like id say as diverse as a jungle, or woodland area

Having an entirely solid map of 2 whole biomes is boring i agree (scorched earth)

[ionic meteor]

Gen 2

[rare heart]

Ye that too

Gen two was like, immersive to me for a week after release

good creature design though mostly

In short you could do a lot with a map that has one designated theme

[thick lintel]

Was the rumors about some news???

And yeah, even tho I liked the "all you can eat buffets" maps like Rag and Fjördur, the themed maps (for example Abb) are the ones that really pushed ark forward and built atmosphere and possibilites for the more general maps too

[split dove]

only speculation, theres a ark franchise roadmap coming this month, wich could include release dates/release windows for the gameplay trailer, release and more teasers. but besides Ark 2 it will likely also include info about the animated series and Ark 1 on UE5. last community crunch also said it's around the corner, so it could be this week, next one or the one after.

if it rehabilitates the average ark chatters it would be a good addition

[untold ingot]

Scorched had several biomes though. At least 4. The fact that it is still a desert just means it kept to theme lol.

The only thing scorched needed to be better was creatures fighting over water

Imo I hope ark2 picks a theme of terrain and sticks with it. The smashing together of unrelated biomes in the concept of diversity is what made rag, ci bad lol

[winged dome]

I hated Rag's murder snow literally bordering the desert 😂

But WC didn't make that map

[rare heart]

Scorched had one solid oasis esc biome with mountains

And then a dune sea

And i guess the wyvern trench

[untold ingot]

If you look at the maps wildcard did make(excluding the island) they were mostly themed with minimal biome differences

And that's what makes them good. It's not just a moshpit of different things, it's a map lol

[desert swallow]

it could be that the ark that rag was on was tidally locked to the star

but I guess it would always have to be night in the snow area

[untold ingot]

It's an ark orbiting earth, no its not tidally locked lol

[rare heart]

Not what i meant by moshpit

Im just saying those regions have way more diverse biomes to make it way more interesting

Abberation did that the best i believe

[split dove]

hmm let's have the worst snow biome ever next to a dessert. perfect logic lol

[untold ingot]

Ab had 4 biomes, and one of those was impossible to build lol

[desert swallow]

the rad zone in abberation felt not finished

[untold ingot]

Ab also had good geological boundaries between biomes

[rare heart]

yes

[untold ingot]

Scorched had more biomes than ab

[rare heart]

To me i couldnt tell

[desert swallow]

No, same biome it was contained in

[untold ingot]

I am guessing you never played it to theme with a new character then?

[rare heart]

Wdym

[untold ingot]

It has 2 canyon types, a 3 different varieties of desert (not including the deep desert) as well as mountains.

The only thing it was missing would be more natural Spawn points and better ai

[rare heart]

My least played map, just thought it was the most boring one because it looked bland in a pve sense

[untold ingot]

It doesn't force you to play to theme as much as ab does. That is the reason ab was better

[rare heart]

Yiss

I thought it wouldve been better to be tied down to just an arid theme than generic desert map

[untold ingot]

...

Bruh, go play scorched and actually look at the map lol

[rare heart]

I could, i dont think my views will change

[untold ingot]

If there were 3 maps that have the best biome design, it would start with scorched, go to gen2 and end with ab lol

[rare heart]

? I did play it

[untold ingot]

The reason it all feels the same is because you spend all your time flying around and ignoring the map

[rare heart]

I dont think you can make that assumption but sure

[untold ingot]

People liked ab because it felt like a challenge and because they couldn't just fly around and ignore the map

[rare heart]

yes

Ive spent plenty of time looking at maps because when you play pve. At least for me, you spend hours looks for base spots and finding tames + progressing through the game if u want to

[untold ingot]

If fliers aren't a thing, you actually have to play the map

[rare heart]

Tbf dont even think ark 2 will be safe from that

balanced fliers would still be the same way

[astral token]

What’s cooking?

Do tell if its meths

[untold ingot]

I mean, not if I balanced them.

[rare heart]

Idk like

Nerfing land matchups. Yata yata

Still can fly everywhere

except caves maybe who knows in ark 2

[untold ingot]

Lol, I could change that easily

Fliers that can't fly in bad weather or bad wind, fliers that take damage from collisions with trees and rocks, fliers with low weight capacity so thst to use them you are forces to carry light weaponry and armor. Without cryos. Fliers taking realistic wing damage that grounds them. It would make flying more dangerous, skill based, and less reliable. Kind of what it is irl lol

[rare heart]

Sure

Most/some days would have to be neutral weather though

[untold ingot]

And you fly at the expense of progressing.

[rare heart]

hopefully

[untold ingot]

People immediately go for fliers because they catapult you into end game. If they are incapable of that by low weight (on All fliers) then using a flier is just supplementary to playing the game

[split dove]

compared to current flyers yes

[untold ingot]

No, I want them to not be more useful than every ground creature ever lol

Fliers should be limited to scouting

The extra mobility should come at a cost to keep things balanced

[split dove]

it's already super easy once you get a flyer atm, let's not forget you could zoom around the map even faster before the flyer nerfs

[rare heart]

Bombing/ranged/dogfights

[untold ingot]

When you talked about bombs in ark before I thought you were joking lol

Still kind of hope you are

[split dove]

flyers aren't bad enough already, let's make them drop bombs like tropeos bc what's balance

[untold ingot]

As far as dogfights go, in ark people ignore the dogfighting dinos in favor of the more simple to use one's like bat's, because picking is so infinitly more overpowered than dogfighting

Spoken like a true 1x player lil

[rare heart]

Bombing….

[untold ingot]

Lol

[rare heart]

Having fliers be used like actual flying vehicles? Crazy

bomber quetz

instead of that stupid ass platform saddle

[untold ingot]

I seriously hope you are joking lol. At best that could be a meme

[rare heart]

either way

Nothing stopping me from throwing explosives off of the back of a flier

[untold ingot]

We aren't talking irl

[untold ingot]

Other than the fake that that would totally ruin pvp if it was effective in any shape or form

[rare heart]

bro its a bird

Itd only be good at bombing stationary targets

[untold ingot]

People went to the cave meta because of stupid fliers and platform saddles lol, add bombing and it'll never leave the cave meta

[untold ingot]

Yes, because bases have a tendency to move around 🙄

[split dove]

and how exactly do you plan on it being counterd by base defence if we won't have turrets? highly doubt plants can shoot it down

[rare heart]

but say, quetz had a bombing saddle?

Quetz is also big as hell too

Yes

[untold ingot]

Used to be you could build in other places too

At best there could be catapults. Fliers dropping bombs would be a terrible decision if it was in any shape or form effective

[winged dome]

Only bombs fliers should be able to drop are the player accidentally dismounting midair, and the one you drop when you press Z

[untold ingot]

Magmasuar are already over effective, and they can't even fly

[thick lintel]

I have to add to the conversation that many deserts on earth are like that. For example the Patagonian desert is next to the Andies and the temperature can vary by tens of degrees from the desert to the mountain!

[split dove]

the more you know i suppose

[untold ingot]

Because they got nerfed. They are still good at raiding if you can get positioning

[thick lintel]

But how fun that is gameplaywise is a story of it's own

[untold ingot]

But it doesn't go redwoods + jungle into short mountain, into square flat desert

Rags biome have no rhyme or reason, they just are smushed together to have everything

Ci is the same

[astral token]

CI 👎🏽

[thick lintel]

Yeah, CI is the worst offender. Real wordl and minecraft has these "transitory biomes" called ecotenes between biological communities or biomes. I think ARK could use them too.

[winged dome]

Deserts also aren't necessarily hot, just lack rain. Antarctica is a desert

[thick lintel]

Indeed! It's even the largest one

[untold ingot]

I think that it does, if you exclude the island, rag, ci and whatever ext is lol

[thick lintel]

Fair. I think mountains work well and for more softer transition like general shift from forest to fields etc

[untold ingot]

Having larger biomes would allow for better transition stages

[mint swan]

I want bigger biomes so that way there is more to explore and do

I want the game to feel massive like it’s an actual planet we are on not an island or isolated area

[winged dome]

Ext looked at transitional biomes and laughed with the Biodomes, then laughed again with the other biomes actually being really well transitioned

[past wind]

Do you remember when cluster bombs were released? What a mess. People raided bases jumping from a quetzal and destroying all turrets easily

[untold ingot]

I mean, I really don't like ext, but it's not teeeeerrrible I suppose

[winged dome]

Not a fan of some of the mechanics, but as an overall map I like Ext

[past wind]

Only thing I found interesting on extinction is it was on actual earth

But it made elements so common it destroyed the economy/balance of the game

[untold ingot]

I don't like ext personally, but that's just because when it came out it kind of ruined the game for me lol

[winged dome]

If OSD/Veins were less buggy with invisible spawns, and corrupted creatures didn't seek out structures to destroy then I'd like it more

[past wind]

Also meks… what can I say…

Oh… and manas on release…

[untold ingot]

Release velos too

[ripe cedar]

Everything in extinction on release…..

[split dove]

it made some of our brains extinct

[winged dome]

Meteors on release 👀
Nowhere is safe, not even underground

[ripe cedar]

Everyone loves getting insta killed

[past wind]

First time I opened an osd without realizing it would destroy any structures I had on my quetzal 🤗

[ripe cedar]

I think all damage in ark 2 should insta kill

[split dove]

my skiff was made extinct by a meteor shower once

[past wind]

Gameplay wise, would be bad

[rancid harness]

Before I knew there were meteors I flew straight into one wondering what it was xD

Rip my Griff at the time

[past wind]

Whoever didn’t get a meteor base wipe, didn’t play it right

[winged dome]

So that's why they call it Extinction

[past wind]

Wow! It’s so beautiful… 💥

Oh… what about this fucking barrier…

[winged dome]

Lol what's this beeping noise?
Aaaand I'm on the respawn screen 🤷

[split dove]

wait a minute, why is my screen turning red?

[rare heart]

Oh wait shit this is the wrong ass chat

[astral token]

What about the sudden lag spike

As I’m driven to the respawn menu

[winged dome]

Nah, it's the right chat until a moderator tells us it's the wrong chat

[astral token]

And the lingering 50,000 damage number until I relog

This is what makes average ARK moments

[astral token]

Well actually we’re reminiscing ARK I in preparation for ARK II

[blissful perch]

I nearly crapped myself because I was coming hot out of the forbidden zone as a meteor shower started. After I watched a meteor ping off the ice dome an inch above my head I was never the same

May ark 2 never have instant kills

[split dove]

if it leaves you on 50 hp it's not a instant kill, i may have just given wildcard ideas

[rustic dagger]

Wildcard pls don’t

That would suck very extremely badly

[blissful perch]

Pls don’t…what?

Release an objective improvement to their first game? Or something more specific

[mint swan]

I think you are pshyco

[rustic dagger]

That took me for ev

U like it?

[prisma pike]

What if I fall off a cliff

[split dove]

just grab onto a vine

[rustic dagger]

Make it to where you die every ten seconds

[stark moth]

Prolly the easiest way to make flyers less broken would be to make it so they are always moving forward while in the air. Player can control turning and to some extent speed, but the only way to stop is to land. Keep the stamina burn in flight and that alone would make things more interesting.

[untold ingot]

That wouldnt in an of itself make them less broken. Just slightly harder to use

[blissful perch]

Leaves are very good cushions 😂

Forced grounding like on SE is just annoying unless weather is local and can be skirted around

[tropic forge]

that would be stupid as hell

[stark moth]

See? It would make them annoying and stupid, thus encouraging the use of other options

[tropic forge]

naa just stupid really thats how someone comes up whit empty idea, if you cant think of better solution dont expect ppl to say its brilliant idea 🤣

either way its not like anything here will be done on the game thanks for that, it would be shit show

[stark moth]

I neither expected anyone to think it was brilliant, nor did I even think it was a brilliant idea. It was simply a thought related to the earlier discussion. But thanks for trying to insult me. 👍

[mint swan]

We think tomorrow?

[untold ingot]

I mean, it's a good idea and something that could be implemented (it even is on Astros when in space jet form). But it doesn't inherently make fliers less broken, only slightly more challenging

Calling it stupid was a bit over the top, considering that it's already in ark1

[winged dome]

Why tomorrow?

[mint swan]

Mayhapes roadmap

[winged dome]

Gottem 🍻

[winged dome]

T-
trains?

Why...?

[blissful perch]

I think it’s the right direction. Requiring a powered flight into gliding style to keep momentum rather than hold W for example may be along the same lines you’re thinking but a bit less irksome

[untold ingot]

I just read an article that talked about scientists recently recovering the voice box of an anky. And it's a lot like a birds

[desert swallow]

They recovered a fossilized larynx and hypothesis is it would have bird like noises, albeit much deeper and probably louder because of the size of it

but it's an interesting find. It's quite obvious that birds are just modern dinosaurs

[untold ingot]

Yeah, it's a really interesting find

I was under the impression that the larynx was too fragile

[desert swallow]

it's very rare

Probably preserved in tar or something

[untold ingot]

Could be

[hybrid crest]

will thyla be in ark 2

[rancid harness]

Will people ever ask questions that actually have answers?

[potent hull]

soon Friday will be her we will no more then we do on ark 2 i hop or we will no nothing at all on it

[desert swallow]

I'd bet money on it

[astral token]

Probably but we can't be 100% sure

But considering it's a fan favourite in some shape or form I believe we'll see the Thyla

[astral token]

🚋

[unreal rover]

Dark souls pvp makes me think it’s gonna be like atlas melee fights 😕

[potent hull]

you men sound sow weird

[lime forge]

I mean, even that’s an improvement compared to Ark 1 melee.

[astral token]

English isn’t even my 1st language yet I speak it better

[lime forge]

English is for sure your first language. You were born and raised in Ohio and your mothers name Cathy

[astral token]

Events based on real life experiences

[left carbon]

Your character ages so the longer you play your character will become feeble and must go in an Ark rest home

Maybe we start as a child

[lime forge]

Yeah I’m not looking for a real life simulator. Fuck that nonsense.

[tropic crag]

Lmao, yeah that sounds like trash

[unborn galleon]

hello

ladies and gentleman's how is that ark 2 gameplay trailer going

[astral token]

😐😐😐😐

[tropic crag]

If you aren't going to contribute anything interesting or of use, just... don't say anything at all

It's not even getting old or anything, it's already gotten old, you just keep beating the dead horse, like

Get a new joke, find a new hobby, ANYTHING

[tropic crag]

And only seconds away from something else dropping

The collective IQ of this chat

Yes, as I predicted

You did type in here, after all

[astral token]

💀💀💀

[tropic crag]

Yes, roughly the first half of the year, but rough is an understatement as we only have this guesstimate via the very offhand and not at all binding statement from the Xbox and Bethesda Showcase from last year, saying that all games shown should come out by June this year @steep shoal

[mortal siren]

I don’t think we can trust this statement anymore

Bethesda themselves are releasing Starfield in September

Stalker 2 is coming in December

And games like HW: Silksong and Ark 2 have been quiet since last time we heard anything from them

Xbox is doing a game showcase in June

It should include all these games

But it is very, very unlikely that any of them release in H1 2023

[tropic crag]

As stated, it was already shaky information at best to begin with, but for the record Starfield was planned to be shown and was not as they knew it would be delayed, being the parent company. Stalker 2 is roughly the same case, as soon as the war started, they more than likely told them it would be a good while longer and iirc it also was not shown at the aforementioned showcase

And aside from all that, I'm sure that Microsoft has them each under an NDA, preventing any info from being shown until absolutely necessary, as we've seen

[lime forge]

Dang. You guys are so fuckin cool

[lime flicker]

Thank you 🤓

[elfin pumice]

Today is the day

[worldly garden]

Thanks!

[tropic crag]

No, YOU'RE breathtaking cool!

[blissful perch]

My bet is two weeks for the roadmap

[split dove]

my bet is either today or next week

[tropic forge]

my bet is tomorrow, the losers have to change their names??? 🤣

[lime forge]

Don’t take any bets with Fox. From experience he will flake out on payment. His word is about as valuable as the scum on the bottom of a dumpster.

[fast isle]

Guys

I’m predicting ark 2 release 2025

[winged dome]

For playstation, probably

[velvet leaf]

Some ark 2 please

[winged dome]

🍻

Close enough

[velvet leaf]

Yes

[desert swallow]

I don't think it ever gets released. All those people that claim to be from the future, not one of them has mentioned ark 2.

[lime flicker]

It’s coming today bois mark my words

Remember to ping this comment when it’s released

[ripe cedar]

Ok 😎

[worldly garden]

That comment will be long buried by that time.

[split dove]

today or next week, take it or leave it 🚬