#Sharply Squad

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errant fox
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nothing proprietary about that

tepid nest
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This should be standard for all manufacturers at the very least.

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I’ll never understand why companies make things difficult

jolly quarry
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i love the datasheets

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theyre so good

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leica does them im pretty sure

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for the export thing ive done it at 2000x2000, 300ppi and png 🫩

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mb

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ill do some tonight

frosty plaza
jolly quarry
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@errant fox are other camera stores (e.g. park cameras) fine or no

errant fox
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no

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press release assets only

jolly quarry
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ok

errant fox
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many websites do use the press release assets though, so if you can no longer find the press release, you usually can find same images on product pages, or other websites using them

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but you have to be sure it's the same image

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its usually pretty clear since the manufacturers take all of their photos in similar ways

jolly quarry
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also uh how tf do you export something in .webp from PS

errant fox
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save as

jolly quarry
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ahh

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not export

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thats q3 mono

errant fox
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if ur not gonna crop and resize just don't bother exporign as webp lol

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either send how you found it or do the full process

jolly quarry
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sorry thats literally as wide as it is

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unless you want it some form of other aspect ratio??

errant fox
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huh

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did you read the thing lol

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Processing Images

  • Import into Photoshop
  • Remove background if there is one, make sure edges are clean, no white or black left. Do this before sizing the image down.
    • Select > Subject
    • Select > Modify > Contract > 1px (check "apply effect at image bounds")
    • Make sure to remove any holes for straps or in small details
  • If it's a lens and not facing left (front element toward left) rotate into that orientation
  • Crop tightly on all edges (aspect ratio does not matter)
  • If image is larger than 1000px wide, do Image > Image Size > Select "Pixels" for Width > Type 1000px for pixel value leaving resolution at 72 and resampling automatic
  • Export as .webp (File > Save As or Save a Copy > Format = webp)
    • Select 75% quality, do not include any metadata or extras
jolly quarry
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yes i did???

errant fox
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well either you didn't read it or you skipped the steps on purpose πŸ˜‚

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which is also fine

jolly quarry
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there u go

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happy now??

errant fox
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but don't bother importing to photoshop and exporting webp since someone else will just have to do it anyway

jolly quarry
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πŸ™„

errant fox
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guy no one is forcing you to do this

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im just trying to save you time

jolly quarry
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im aware

frosty plaza
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that's 1756 on the long edge

jolly quarry
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oh shit

frosty plaza
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If image is larger than 1000px wide, do Image > Image Size > Select "Pixels" for Width > Type 1000px for pixel value leaving resolution at 72 and resampling automatic

jolly quarry
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i did it 2000x2000

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πŸ’€

frosty plaza
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don't do that

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do 1000px long edge, after cropping to the edges of the camera

errant fox
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i already did it

frosty plaza
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either read the instructions for creating images, or just send the original

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don't bother to do half of it

errant fox
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just wasting your own time

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sending image with the name of the item is just as helpful

jolly quarry
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is that better

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wait that might not have saved

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or is that still wrong

errant fox
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yes cropped is correct

frosty plaza
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that's better yes

jolly quarry
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i left like

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a bit at the side but its negligble

errant fox
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nah gotta be exact

jolly quarry
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ah

errant fox
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it's important for size comparisons

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i mean if its like 1-2 pixels it doesnt matter

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because the strap things are already skewing the scale a bit

jolly quarry
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why 75% btw

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is that like just a server thing

jolly quarry
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should be that now

errant fox
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this was 75% quality?

jolly quarry
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yes

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this one

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(i took it from leicas own website if this is about IQ so)

errant fox
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from photoshop right?

jolly quarry
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yes

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same thing anyway

errant fox
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ok yeah it's same

jolly quarry
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hm ok

errant fox
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that's good then

jolly quarry
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does it matter what colour the actual camera is

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or is just black preferred

errant fox
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choose with your heart

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if there's a "default" then that one, otherwise it doesnt matter

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we will add color variations later

jolly quarry
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ah

frosty plaza
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where do accessories like FTZ fall on the roadmap?

jolly quarry
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x100vi maybe

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strap lug isnt perfectly cut but i could probably fix it

frosty plaza
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yeah fix that

jade knoll
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white border on top and bottom

jolly quarry
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now maybe or is it still

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THAT is an adobe skill issue

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whys it so ass quality (from the tamron website)

errant fox
jolly quarry
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yes

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should i do an extra 1px or

tepid nest
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I always do 2 just because

jolly quarry
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fair

tepid nest
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My workflow is just load it, auto select subject, contract 2, selection layer mask, crop to selection, resize, save copy

errant fox
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where did you find fuji images?

jolly quarry
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lets try again

jolly quarry
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then took it there

errant fox
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link to eshop?

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wait got it

jolly quarry
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could just be ass quality ig

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oh hello

errant fox
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advanced tip here

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if you inspect the page

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and find the image url

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you can usually find parameters in the URL like width = 700 height = 700

jolly quarry
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oh

jolly quarry
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wouldnt it be uploaded in 72dpi so it would look like shit even if it was small anyway

errant fox
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this was &fit=bounds&height=700&width=700&canvas=700:700 before

errant fox
jolly quarry
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right

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heres a g2 (i think its quite shit because whoever at tamron took the photo clearly didnt check focus, theres ones that are higher quality from amazon tho)

and an m11 mono (should be fine??)

jolly quarry
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eos Ra

jagged epoch
jagged epoch
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Or if you're as unemployed as me, go do the specs for the Canon bodies

tepid nest
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You’re not his boss

jolly quarry
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and did the ones i could that werent filled in already

errant fox
jolly quarry
proven glade
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how are you guys removing background

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@jolly quarry

jolly quarry
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literallt clicking the layer then remove background

proven glade
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oh

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im awetism

errant fox
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bro

jade knoll
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lol

proven glade
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brother

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tried to install a scripting language, accidentally installed a game for bass players

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nevermind, what is this shit

jagged epoch
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@errant fox are we allowed to use pics from the Internet Archive PepeLaugh PepeLaugh

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I haven't yet but just wanna know

errant fox
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u mean the wayback thing?

jagged epoch
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yeah

errant fox
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it's just the same rules

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if you find some manufacturer press asset in there it's fair game

jagged epoch
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yeah I'm looking for press releases

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for old stuff

proven glade
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just spent 15m learning fish script and making this work

jagged epoch
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brother just use photoshop or gimp or something 😭

proven glade
errant fox
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lmao bro

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impressive actually

proven glade
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my next bet would've been darktable-cli

jagged epoch
proven glade
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made this

jagged epoch
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bro was considering touching darktable

errant fox
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but wait does it resize them?

proven glade
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it trims them yeah

jagged epoch
proven glade
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color floodfill background removal,
edge blankspace trim

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for i in *.jpg; set f "$(basename $i .jpg)" ; magick $i -format jpg -bordercolor white -border 1x1 -alpha set -channel RGBA -fuzz 20% -fill none -draw "color 0,0 floodfill" -shave 1x1 -trim
 +repage -sharpen 0x1.0 -define webp:quality=75 $f.webp; end```
jagged epoch
proven glade
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that was the old version

errant fox
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it's 1084 pixels

proven glade
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that was using this

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diod -resize 1000x, now it's 1000 width

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unless you want 1000x1000?

errant fox
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and what does the output look like

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no, 1000 on long edge

proven glade
errant fox
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white border

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remove 2 px instead

proven glade
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no, just added more fuzz, and a little less sharpening

errant fox
jagged epoch
proven glade
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panasonic

jagged epoch
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I can't find a very high res one

proven glade
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here's no sharpening

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I like a little bit of sharpening

errant fox
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just take off 2 px bro

jagged epoch
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ONLY 13 CANON BODIES LEFT

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(specs)

errant fox
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square u know the whole point of the site is for the public to populate the specs

jagged epoch
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mhm hmm

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they can go do nikon and sony

errant fox
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square is like "i am the public"

jagged epoch
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people said I should be more outgoing

errant fox
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going out and filling sharply specs

jade knoll
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I would add every 85mm lens but im too employed

errant fox
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employment worst disease

jagged epoch
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the second I become employed sharply will become a barren desert

proven glade
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that's fine

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where do you live again?

jagged epoch
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bangkok

proven glade
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what do you want to do

jagged epoch
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engineering

proven glade
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what kind

jagged epoch
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mechanical or electrical

proven glade
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yeah gonna be jobless for a second

jade knoll
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mechanical is the cool one do that one

proven glade
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sharply will be fine

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add a product images catalog

errant fox
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yeah thinking of something like that

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also sample images

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and sample raws

proven glade
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yeah all very good ideas

jade knoll
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needs multiple pics if the camera/lens is sold in multiple colors

errant fox
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also that

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sample images probably highest prio, not sure how to source them though

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select people, public submissions with approvals, etc.

jagged epoch
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Loan every camera in existence

errant fox
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do we care about sample jpg for cameras?

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or just raws?

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sample jpg more important for lenses right?

jagged epoch
proven glade
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floh can we duplicate specs for s5ii and s5iix

proven glade
errant fox
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purley for purposes of downloading and viewing yourself

jagged epoch
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Oh hmm

errant fox
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like yesterday i was looking for raw files from X100VI or X-E5

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could not find them

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ended up finding 1 on some random forum because a guy dropped a google drive link

proven glade
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can you copy s5iix data and copy it to s5ii @errant fox

errant fox
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yeah

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anything should be not copied?

proven glade
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I'll mend what needs to be changed

errant fox
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this actually is not even easy for me

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give me a sec

proven glade
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also did you allow the video specs to exceed 200

errant fox
proven glade
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most of what changes between S5II and S5IIX are video related

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so actually so far with no video codecs added nothing is different

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but since the video mode manager does not differentiate between LongGOP and All-I or codecs per video modes, I don't think people would know how the S5II and S5IIX differ

jagged epoch
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S5ii looks better

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And is cheaper

proven glade
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s5iix is $200 cheaper

jagged epoch
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What is that s5ii pic bro πŸ’€

proven glade
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yeah that's what too much fuzz

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bro went bald for a sec

jade knoll
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heres a good idea

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add every camera bag to sharply

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with full specs

jagged epoch
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Stop fueling my unemployment...

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Like, around April/May or so, production will decline because I have to get my tests and uni apps ready

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But after that we ball πŸ”₯ πŸ”₯ πŸ”₯

errant fox
jolly quarry
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i did that for a camera cant remember which (prob a fuji)

errant fox
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@proven glade any chance you know roughly how many you needed over 200?

proven glade
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I guesstimate not more than 350

errant fox
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350-400 rows for one camera could really get out of hand fast πŸ˜‚

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hopefully there's very few cameras that need that many

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i'm raising limit to 500, at this point it's just a security thing to prevent data sabatoge

proven glade
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photo not coming through on the x hmm

errant fox
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i didnt add photo

proven glade
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no, it has a photo

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the thumbnail just isn't coming through

errant fox
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oh

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just ISR

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will be there soon

proven glade
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but the s5ii came instantly

errant fox
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cached

proven glade
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also did a cache reset

errant fox
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cached on server

proven glade
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sucks

errant fox
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skill issue

proven glade
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thumb works

errant fox
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i'll be pushing the video thing and panorama for instsagram builder in a sec

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dont start video specs yet lol

errant fox
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@proven glade video modes increased to 500, refresh and good to go

proven glade
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horizontal not vertical?

errant fox
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yes

proven glade
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so do I just flip it

errant fox
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horizontal is correct

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left image is what we want

proven glade
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mount facing what way

errant fox
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yes

proven glade
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is it supposed to be scaled like this

errant fox
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unforatunately yes

proven glade
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what do you mean unfortunately yes

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you're the guy who did it

errant fox
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there's just not really a simple way to make lens scaling make sense

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maybe will try one day

jade knoll
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floh doesnt wanna make everything to scale bcs this actually isnt the most comprehensive photography gear database

proven glade
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whats with the random.... you know what I'm talking about

errant fox
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uh...

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it's supposed to be in the box

proven glade
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now it is

errant fox
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we dont know how many pixels the mount is in the image

proven glade
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uh

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responsive web design ig

jagged epoch
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Nah but fr, maybe use the lens diameter values

errant fox
proven glade
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give @jagged epoch a GUI to manually scale every lens

errant fox
proven glade
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floh

jagged epoch
proven glade
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badges based on camera brands owned

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leica badge
canon badge

errant fox
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yeah i've had some ideas for brand allegiance stuff, want to plan it out fully

jagged epoch
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Bros planning cosmetics already

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Thinking far huh πŸ”₯ πŸ”₯ πŸ”₯

proven glade
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sharply tracking

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soldout

errant fox
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yeah deal with it

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mpb unfortunately uses fucking garbage affiliate service

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might just turn it off

jagged epoch
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I go sleep

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Canon bodies will be done tomorrow or Thursday

errant fox
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@proven glade panorama coming soon

proven glade
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nice

errant fox
jolly quarry
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@errant fox hi when you approve the Z 28mm f/2.8 can you copy over all the data to the SE variant except and the weight/size and the screenshot below

errant fox
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i really have no way of doing so

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just have to type everything

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just open in a new tab, that's what i did last time

jolly quarry
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ah right

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ill do it then

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dw

errant fox
errant fox
jolly quarry
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it was the one from the sony website so

errant fox
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hm

proven glade
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not being able to bash script is one pretty ass feature

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and in exchange you don't even get that good for a cli experience

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I used to be zsh all the way but people around me insisted on using fish so I had to adapt

shy solar
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right?

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wdym

errant fox
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Update coming soon

πŸ–ΌοΈ Instagram Post Builder Upgrades
The Instagram Post Builder now supports panorama / multi-slide posts.
You can create frames that span across multiple slides, making it much easier to design wide images that flow naturally when swiping on Instagram. Exporting now correctly slices and numbers slides so everything posts cleanly.

πŸ”₯ Trending & New Gear Badges
β€’ Gear items can now show a Trending badge across browse and brand pages
β€’ Newly released gear now displays a New badge, making fresh releases easier to spot

πŸ“… More Accurate Release Info
Gear pages now handle release date precision better, so dates are displayed more accurately when only a month or year is known.

πŸ‘€ Profile Page Improvements
Empty and personalized states on profile pages have been cleaned up, making profiles feel clearer and more intentional whether you’re just getting started or already have content.

πŸ› οΈ Small Improvements
β€’ Reordered MSRP fields for clearer spec layout
β€’ General cleanup and polish across related pages

shy solar
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sharply photo forum when

errant fox
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forum better?

shy solar
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whats the incentive to sign up?

errant fox
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/rant

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Right now just contributing specs and reviews, and collection is a big one as we have seen first hand. I’m not really super worried about sign ups, more just being the first place people go to look up specs and information on gear.

DPReview will be hard to beat, but hopefully eventually if we can pull off things like sample photos, lens charts, RAW samples, and a solid amount of editorial reviews, it could be a no-brainer. Their advantage is time and legacy, amount of handwritten reviews, lots of good samples. But I’m still maintaining that the value of hand-written reviews is highly, highly inflated in the photography community. I’ve read them maybe like 2–3 times ever; usually I’m just fishing around for a specific spec or answer to a specific question or samples on them, which is much more easily done with a structure like Sharply has.

At the end of the day, no one actually gives a fuck what Ken Rockwell or the DPReview writers have to say about the gear; they just want the specs and samples and easily available information about detailed specs and niche questions. It just so happens these sites are the only ones that have these things, but not in the best structure.

shy solar
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you should add something to profiles so we can upload bag layout pics

jade knoll
shy solar
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holy crap

jade knoll
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id like to see this implemented by 7am

shy solar
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goated idea ngl

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go claude code

errant fox
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That’s too much lol

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Bag support maybe

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Just as items on the site

shy solar
errant fox
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eh

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i dont see the vision

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mediocre bag pics not very sexy

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plus collection is already there

shy solar
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idk

narrow bloom
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@jagged epoch is this your doing

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clanker

jagged epoch
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Idk

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Is that mpb price

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Recheck it

narrow bloom
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ooooh it is

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such a bad boy

narrow bloom
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also collection page lookin a bit funky, i think someone mentioned it before me tho

errant fox
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oh that's a big collection

narrow bloom
jagged epoch
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Sold most of it

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πŸ”₯ πŸ”₯ πŸ”₯ πŸ«ƒ πŸ«ƒ πŸ«ƒ πŸ«ƒ

narrow bloom
jagged epoch
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Me when I lie

narrow bloom
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i took 70d off

jagged epoch
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Show current

narrow bloom
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and this isnt including my film shit borrysit

jagged epoch
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Do you still keep 17-35/2.8 πŸ«ƒ

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Sell that shit

narrow bloom
narrow bloom
jagged epoch
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FIRE

jagged epoch
narrow bloom
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sentimental value typa shit

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i still have 2 btw

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πŸ’€

jagged epoch
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I would sell my d5000 but it's not "mine"

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So

narrow bloom
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the old one has a scratch on focusing screen

jagged epoch
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No cuz you don't use either of them anyway πŸ”₯

narrow bloom
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true

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theyre both rotting in my school locker rn

jagged epoch
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So anyways

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All canon bodies have their specs done

proven glade
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for example, you can't export A=B, you set A B

small moat
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Wsp was just taking a look at sharply seems like a cool idea I'd love to help out if I can @errant fox

errant fox
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If you need an item added or have an idea just ping me

proven glade
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still trending lets goo

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has no one managed to get a picture of a PF 85 1.4?

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@errant fox what if image smaller than 1000 long edge

errant fox
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as long as its like 800 or more it's good

proven glade
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what about upscale?

errant fox
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no

proven glade
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no, like, bilinear upscaling

errant fox
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nah

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it will never be displayed at 1000

errant fox
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1000 is just a safety net

proven glade
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g90 found at 1000x1000

errant fox
proven glade
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now at 1000x669 (nice)

errant fox
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any way to fix this with ur script

proven glade
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but ok

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I'll add anti-aliasing

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bit better

jagged epoch
proven glade
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though I've noticed other things, like this

jagged epoch
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Tf g90 has strap lugs built in?

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No not lugs, those hanging things

versed fjord
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most cams do its just... weird to be in manu images

jagged epoch
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Lumix special in the head πŸ”₯

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I'll get started on canon body images when I get home

proven glade
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differential masking
feathering
floodfilling

left to right

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think I'll do a mix of differential masking and feathering

jagged epoch
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Differential πŸ’€

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Feathering looks the best

proven glade
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nah

jagged epoch
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...but not perfect

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Still white edge on the bottom

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Nah but seriously wtf is differential doing πŸ’€

proven glade
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this is about the cleanest I'll get it

errant fox
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looks good

proven glade
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logic by me
copilot wrote the fish script

errant fox
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"logic by me, code by AI"

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- everyone in 2026

proven glade
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I was the 24 karat golden comb sludging through slop

jagged epoch
proven glade
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I've hit a hard cap

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AI is hallucinating too much, gotta do it myself now DogeKek

jagged epoch
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The normal way

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πŸ”₯

errant fox
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AI is the normal way now πŸ₯€

errant fox
jagged epoch
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huh so canon makes dummy sharp pics sometimes

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(it's still very high res)

errant fox
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huh

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wym dummy, dummy

jagged epoch
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means "stupidly"

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this much res for the canon support site πŸ’€

jagged epoch
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oh, note to anyone doing canon pics:
if you search a discontinued item and add "canonusa" at the end there's a high chance you'll encounter "Canon Support for XXXXX", which will have decent quality pics

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fills the screen πŸ”₯

proven glade
errant fox
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yeah lol

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idk or maybe nowadays theyre doing a bit of post work to make everything more netural looking

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or maybe they had not the best lights with color casts or something

proven glade
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can we use pictures from bestbuy or amazon?

errant fox
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if you can confirm that they're the same as manufacturer images sure

jagged epoch
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I can't find a normal fucking picture for 1dx2 redacted

proven glade
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I mean, whereelse did they get them

errant fox
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🀷

proven glade
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they didn't coincidentally have the same lighting and room setup as the manu

errant fox
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there's a good chance it's those

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but yeah if it has same lighting then it's most likely them

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but some sites like B&H do their own photos

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so just have to be careful

proven glade
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need to find a way to clean up those corners

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drop shadow's a bitch

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might just change my approach to background removal, use machine learned or something

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experiment with parametric masking on darktable-cli

errant fox
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wait what is this

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i like the look of that

proven glade
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it's the S9 in plain silver

errant fox
proven glade
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i sysadmin

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my whole job is making sure i only have to do it once

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also making sure everything's opensource so I can make this a tool on a website

errant fox
tepid nest
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Meanwhile I can churn out a photo done properly in photoshop in 20 seconds with no fiddling

proven glade
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just to go back to your 2nd job on factorio?

tepid nest
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I play very little Factorio currently

proven glade
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look what you've done to the man @errant fox

tepid nest
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I haven’t played a lot of Factorio in over a year. I dabble for a day or two and then drop it for months.

errant fox
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thats how i play rimworld

proven glade
tepid nest
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lol

errant fox
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alr kinda cool

proven glade
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hey, pretty good

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@errant fox how exactly is the S9 (with no data) 200%

errant fox
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200% is actually the amount it matches your search query

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it's debugging

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i need to remove, just waiting until i rework that panel

proven glade
#

I don't think you quite understand math

errant fox
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yeah well tell that to my AI slave

proven glade
#

would be nice if the percentage meant completion of information

errant fox
#

maybe i will think

proven glade
#

my biggest dilemma are the pana bodies with multicolor

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silver is technically not the default color of the S9

errant fox
#

yeah same issue with fuji, just need to add multicolor later

proven glade
#

theres also the sick titanium colorway

errant fox
#

so hot

proven glade
#

fuck it I'm putting up the titanium colorway

errant fox
#

yeah honsetly

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feel free to put the best or most unique one

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makes it easier to identify camera at a glance

tepid nest
errant fox
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if only it had a fucking tilt screen

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does lumix have any good jpg profile stuff like fuji at all?

tepid nest
#

Shame about the rest of the camera

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But it looks good from the front at least

proven glade
#

the workspace atm

errant fox
#

ofc you use linux

tepid nest
#

Was immediately apparent when they wanted to do the hard way just because lol

errant fox
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adding hall of fame thing to the cards

proven glade
#

nice

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how's Hall of Fame given out?

errant fox
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just manually

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i added some to start, will be an ongoing discussion

tepid nest
errant fox
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nothing wrong with a little self hate once in a while

tepid nest
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Also if you have other purposes in mind like you said earlier I think

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Will still give me a chuckle though either way

errant fox
#
#

oops

tepid nest
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Ah yes localhost

errant fox
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wow no metadata

proven glade
#

"guys my website is not working"

tepid nest
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I think the first lens that included a built in switchable TC should be in the hall of fame

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Don’t ask me which it was though

errant fox
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lol

proven glade
#

I think you should have it work like passportindex

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I imagine a lot of things will be on the hall of fame

errant fox
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hmm

proven glade
#

also personally think lenses should be upright in thumbnail view

errant fox
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was it actually good thogh

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gimmicks aren't hall of fame worthy

tepid nest
#

I believe so

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I don’t think there has been a lens with a built in tc that was a dud yet

errant fox
#

more canon shitness with the lighting

proven glade
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I'd use darktable-cli to correct the white balance

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actually this one's not so bad

errant fox
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white balance fine

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its just lit from bottom somehow

tepid nest
#

Probably stuck on a light table

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Not sure why lol

proven glade
#

if you wanted to be unique and happen to have a subscription to Luminar, they've got a nice studio light correction tool

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might give it a try sometime/later, have it on my laptop

errant fox
proven glade
narrow bloom
proven glade
#

glorious thumb

narrow bloom
#

very cool

narrow bloom
#

i dont care how shit it is i dont care how slow the T stop is I WANT IT

errant fox
narrow bloom
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if i remember correctly it's like t1.4 kek

proven glade
#

idk how Panasonic came up with these

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black pink colorway

narrow bloom
#

honestly

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hell yeah

proven glade
#

crocodile mini camera

proven glade
#

all the silvertop color ways of GM

gusty yoke
proven glade
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the context is just that the S9 is a camera made in the time where everything's black and grey

gusty yoke
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Yup, crazy idea

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But hey, if you want to get a new, colored body, you have to buy that, because as you said no other brands makes colored bodies. Or you can buy a body skin

proven glade
#

weird how much a body can change association

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left is Pana while right looks like Nikon

proven glade
#

@errant fox add Four Thirds

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43 is the DSLR mount
M43 is Mirrorless

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I need to add this camera

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also instead of referring to the sensor as m4/3 refer to it as 4/3

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yes, this thing is a DSLR

errant fox
proven glade
#

also 4/3 and MFT are Olympus' inventions

errant fox
#

whats the actual difference?

proven glade
#

dslr and mirrorless mount

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different lenses

errant fox
#

oh sensor is same?

proven glade
#

different flanges obviously

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well, sensor size and crop are the same

proven glade
#

Olympus has a whole line of weird looking one offs in the Four Thirds mount

errant fox
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basically i'm asking do i need to add a sensor format entry also or just a mount type entry @proven glade

proven glade
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Mount

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And change name of sensor entry

errant fox
#

and it's commonly shown as 4/3 or Four-Thirds?

proven glade
#

Go with 4/3

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The dslr mount was commonly Four Thirds but M43 matters more

errant fox
#

so right now in mounts i have:
m43-panasonic
i should add 43-panasonic

in sensor formats i have
Micro 4/3
i should change to just 4/3

errant fox
#

@proven glade whyy

jagged epoch
#

Panasonic and Olympus doing their thing again

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I'm getting award at Ministry of Education rn so I can't do pics sadge

proven glade
#

and add 43-panasonic

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really it should be 43-olympus

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and m43-panasonic

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the first 4/3 camera was the Olympus E1 in 2003
and the first m4/3 camera was the Panasonic G1 in 2008

versed fjord
#

very good lens

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( i have met a few 200-400 glazers on canon πŸ™ )

jolly quarry
proven glade
jolly quarry
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from the back

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idk might just be me

proven glade
#

leica copycat...

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you mean the camera leica based their digilux 3 off of?

jolly quarry
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wair what

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they copycated lumix instead??

proven glade
#

leica and lumix have always had a thing between them

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lots of leica designs are based on lumix

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leica's the biggest copycat in the industry

errant fox
jolly quarry
#

imma do some leica data now

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as im bored

jolly quarry
#

holy shit

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this is literally a tat shop camera.

errant fox
#

yikes

proven glade
#

tiring doing a whole brand by yourself isn't it @jagged epoch

jagged epoch
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Nah

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I'll get it done

proven glade
#

the fun cameras surrounded by the cameras no one uses or knows about

versed fjord
#

still no sonypillen people sweating sony 😭

proven glade
#

no one cares about sony fr

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leica and pana will be done before sony even gets touched

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I'm probably moving to all of Olympus's cameras next, digital and film

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if you're bored you can help with Panasonic happ @jagged epoch

jagged epoch
#

Maybe

proven glade
#

actually having to open gimp

versed fjord
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slanted strap lug

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cursed

jade knoll
#

gets it more out of the way of ur hand prolly idk

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I like how canon does strap lugs the most

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doesnt stick out at all

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nikon does it too on some cams others they go out of their way to have the lugs stick out straight idk

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z8 at launch had the lugs falling off

proven glade
#

tucked, strong, secure

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a little pokey on the left

jolly quarry
#

for shits and giggles

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once leica is done

narrow bloom
#

it's cool

errant fox
#

Canon lugs definitely best

proven glade
#

chop chop sharply boys

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@errant fox have a top-down camera view submit button

proven glade
narrow bloom
#

idea for camera size

shy solar
#

@errant fox bug

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unless its not

versed fjord
shy solar
versed fjord
#

oh :P

frosty plaza
#

it's trending extra

shy solar
errant fox
errant fox
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fixed in staging

frosty plaza
#

trying to add a lens for someone - but panasonic/lumix/leica naming is so confusing. It seems to go as Panasonic Leica DG Elmarit 200mm f/2.8 POWER O.I.S. Lens most places, but on shop.panasonic.com it's listed as LUMIX G Series LEICA 200mm F2.8 Lens. I think I'm going to add it as the Panasonic Leica DG... one, we can change it later

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1367105-REG/panasonic_h_es200_leica_dg_elmarit_200mm.html/specs

https://shop.panasonic.com/products/g-series-200mm-f2-8-asph-leica-1-4x-teleconverter

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also @errant fox the Create Gear page only has manufacturer/amazon/mpb links, not bhphoto/etc

frosty plaza
#

very

frosty plaza
tepid nest
#

personally I'd use what Panasonic says

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but that's just me

errant fox
#

its both panasonic tho

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oh nvm

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yeah use whatever they did

frosty plaza
#

is this picture too angled?

errant fox
#

yes

frosty plaza
#

figured

tepid nest
#

good luck the best I could find was from BH which resembles the official Panasonic stuff. But there's no press release/announcement with press photos either

frosty plaza
#

i really don't know how much i care to dig for a picture

tepid nest
#

yes but what does the manufacturer do

frosty plaza
#

aren't panasonic/lumix related, and referred to differently depending on market?

#

i'm guessing that it's a panasonic lens internationally, and a lumix lens in the US or something?

tepid nest
#

Lumix is just the branding for Panasonic cameras

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I don't think it's regional

frosty plaza
#

hmm

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so why does everyone refer to it as panasonic leica and not lumix

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well, i'll rename it then

tepid nest
#

dunno, maybe Leica paid them to be more prevalent elsewhere. Who can say

frosty plaza
#

panasonic/leica stuff is too complicated for me

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i give up

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(also probably not the greatest thing to be doing while i'm sick and not 100% in the head)

jolly quarry
#

@errant fox could you add a 1/5" sensor size for the sofort 2

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i have no idea why it uses such a specific sensor but whatever

errant fox
#

1/5"

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?

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no way it's that small

tepid nest
#

Image Sensor
1/5"-Type

jolly quarry
errant fox
#

5 times smaller than a 1" sensor

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even the iphone 4 has a 1/3" sensor πŸ₯€

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that's horrid

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i'll add it later

jolly quarry
jolly quarry
#

leica sl3s

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sl3 looks so stylish

errant fox
#

like 10x

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lmao

jolly quarry
#

(28mm in 35)

errant fox
#

huh

#

what's that in -.-x

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like 1.5x?

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5x?

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oh

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28/2.4?

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11.6x crop?

errant fox
#

@jolly quarry all those changes going in now

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refresh in like 10 minutes

jolly quarry
#

alr

jolly quarry
#

like

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2.4mm/2.8

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turns into a 28/2.8

errant fox
#

i set it to 11.5x

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there's no chance this is uniform across other niche cameras with this type of sensor

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but

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🀷

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that's a problem for later

jagged epoch
#

I go to military camp for 3 days starting tomorrow

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No gimp sadge

errant fox
#

guys

#

πŸ’€

frosty plaza
#

πŸ’€

#

good work gents

jade knoll
#

I got one of those for $10 including shipping on aliexpress

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used it once ever!

errant fox
#

yeah i used it for the first day i had it, then never touched it since

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but i'm sure i will one day again

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it's mostly just a collector item

proven glade
#

so it would be Panasonic Leica Summilux DG 25mm f/1.4 or Panasonic Lumix G 25mm f/1.7

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instead of writing Lumix, you write Leica

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I'm not a historian on the topic but I think how Panasonic names their products, Lumix is the brand, and Leica is also the brand, and Panasonic is the manufacturer/producer, the same way you don't refer to Eneloop batteries as Panasonic, but Eneloop

#

if you need further reference, m43lenses.com calls them by the names they should go, add G or DG depending on Lumix or Leica

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the full full name of this lens

proven glade
#

@errant fox works well

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also really have to like, edit this photo, looks like it was taken with a camera from 2004

errant fox
#

True

frosty plaza
proven glade
#

some lenses Nikon, some lenses Nikkor, some lenses Leica, some lenses Leitz

#

brands, subbrands, branding

tepid nest
#

now I'm going to go and look because it's just been Nikkor forever though

frosty plaza
#

yeah I thought (without paying attention) that nikon lenses were pretty much all Nikkor

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but i don't know for sure

tepid nest
#

yeah

#

almost every lens for like the last three decades at least have just been Nikkor

proven glade
#

actually I might be wrong on Nikon and Nikkor, Nikkor might just be how they brand all their lenses, but I do see some people refer to certain lenses by the Nikkor branding

frosty plaza
#

i'm sure there are exceptions, being a 60+ year old system, but for the most part

proven glade
#

but Leitz and Leica are different in that Leitz is the cinema-focused side of the company, also history and stuff

frosty plaza
#

but Lumix vs Leica?

#

and on the same product?

tepid nest
#

wiki but yeah

proven glade
#

some lenses branded Pana Lumix
some lenses branded Pana Leica, based on who helps design and coat the optics

frosty plaza
#

and some lenses seemingly branded both?

proven glade
#

no, never branded both

#

people who don't know that just brand them both

errant fox
#

so really we should have Nikon Nikkor Tamron Z 28-75 f/2.8

frosty plaza
#

i see

proven glade
tepid nest
errant fox
#

uncommon nikon L

tepid nest
#

no it's a W

proven glade
#

is the Tamron design or the Nikkor design cheaper?

tepid nest
#

Presumably they couldn't come up with a better design for the money

#

so they license the design and then control the manufacturing and qc and slap their name on it

#

they can utilize that money and time and put it towards other useful R&D projects

#

everybody wins

proven glade
# tepid nest wiki but yeah

but yeah, technically, Nikkor, also a branding, technically the analogy is correct but Nikon's not called a lens just Nikon for a while

#

I think their film pns lenses aren't referred to as Nikkor

#

the Z mounts are all AF-S right?

errant fox
#

AF-S is specific to F mount

#

AF-S just means "uses silent wave motor and has A/M switch"

proven glade
#

are all the Z mounts one focusing technology?

errant fox
#

no

#

silent wave and stepping combo i believe

proven glade
#

I see they no longer differentiate, at least not in the name

errant fox
#

yeah they don't

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only thing in name is S identifier and VR

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and DX

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and TC for the fancy shit

proven glade
#

trying to keep the branding lowkey

tepid nest
#

thankfully they started to simplify the names with Z

errant fox
#

yeah they realized their mistake with f-mount πŸ’€

#

i'm sure it will get really ugly again over time though

proven glade
#

I see the Pana Leica 200mm has 3 USM motors but no way to find that out in the name

#

but then Panasonic just slaps the branding in the face by putting "POWER O.I.S" at the end

tepid nest
#

if only they would do that with their actual focus system names. Silky Swift Voice Coil Motor really slides off the tongue

narrow bloom
#

@errant fox can we get an "external build material" category πŸ™

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or something like that

tepid nest
#

Did internal storage (and size) ever get added as an option? I know it's only useful for maybe a few things right now but I think in the future it will be needed as well anyway

errant fox
#

sometimes metal for vintage stuff?

errant fox
narrow bloom
errant fox
#

i dont think so?

#

aren't most modern lenses mostly plastic on outside?

narrow bloom
#

my 100-400, 70-200 are both metal and 100 f2 is partially metal too

versed fjord
#

its mostly coated metal no?

errant fox
#

i thought plastic was prefered since it doesnt expand/contract with temperature as much

tepid nest
#

or maybe preemptively do the common sizes like 256, 512, 1TB

tepid nest
#

oh the block thing?

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looks like 230

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The SD card slot is replaced by 230GB of internal memory, capable of storing more than 14 000 JPEG files, 4 300 Lossless compression RAW images or 2.5 hours of video at the highest-quality setting, with the USB-C port offering fast charging and data-transfer speeds.```
errant fox
#

Yeah that

#

Ok I’ll add it

tepid nest
#

I mean if you're in there may as well do the common sizes too may save you time later

#

πŸ˜›

errant fox
#

Yeah will

tepid nest
#

easy for the one not doing it to say

errant fox
#

I’ll just make it number input

tepid nest
#

hell yeah

errant fox
#

No need for predefined options

errant fox
#

@tepid nest added

tepid nest
#

sick

jagged epoch
#

Not to be confused with modern "E" lenses, which represent electronic aperture

#

Those are Nikkor

tepid nest
shy solar
#

@errant fox add a page or some script to check percentages of each field filled out for each item

#

would be cool

proven glade
#

@errant fox put image submitter as contributor

#

for being such an elegant product it was not an elegant process finding a good photo for this

#

a few more cameras from Leica, DJI, and Sigma and L mount's complete I think

proven glade
#

who did R8 photo why is this so pixelated

#

R6 photo for reference

narrow bloom
#

i think we can blame square for anything canon

proven glade
#

@jagged epoch wake up slave

#

@tepid nest the Z 24-70 2.8 S II has VR?

#

sources I find tells me lenses for Z generally don't have VR including this one

#

also, Aperture Ring yes/no if it's technically a Control Ring?

#

cause that would make a lot of Canons' and Nikons' lenses not have Aperture Rings cause they're either 1x control ring or 2x control ring

narrow bloom
proven glade
jagged epoch
proven glade
#

why are you gambling

jagged epoch
#

...what?

jagged epoch
#

Cuz there's already a separate control ring input

errant fox
errant fox
jagged epoch
#

And 35 1.8 redacted

errant fox
jagged epoch
#

10mm ff is also way too much for like 99% of people kek

tepid nest
errant fox
#

should we add top down images?

#

seems like nikon at least provides them

#

idk about others

proven glade
#

add more angles, whether you can find it is another question

errant fox
#

i guess no reason not to really

#

i was worried about storage at first but it seems that's not really an isuse

proven glade
#

I know with Sigma and Panasonic they give you jsut about every angle you want

#

there should be a graphic background-less view, and marketing material view @errant fox

#

for example, the image I sent earlier, is Sigma's official marketing material for their 200 f2

errant fox
#

ahh interesting idea

proven glade
#

also have like, a banner

errant fox
#

but i think that kind of image is much more likely to be caught for copyright issues

#

that's artistic

proven glade
#

hold on let me cook up what I mean

errant fox
#

we could come up with our own thing like that thogh

proven glade
#

something artistic like

#

parametric generation could work

#

wouldn't be every product, but having a slot to submit something like this would be cool

errant fox
#

yeah could do something like this

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or just mke our deafult look cooler

#

idk

#

cant use their actual content though because it belongs to them

#

would have to make our own graphic

proven glade
errant fox
tepid nest
gusty yoke
gusty yoke
errant fox
gusty yoke
#

Oh, okay

errant fox
#

canon never heard of white balance

narrow bloom
#

fire

#

blue lenses πŸ”₯

versed fjord
#

common nikon W

errant fox
#

making some nice changes to the spec table display logic

#

hiding a lot of obvious things like

  • if the lens is a prime lens, force hide internal zoom value
  • if the lens has no autofocus, force hide "has AF/MF switch"
#

and making some True/False values only show when true or certain other conditions are met

#

like "has10BitVideo" is only going to show "No" for mirrorless, action, and cinema cameras

#

for DSLR it will just hide the row entirely (will still show "Yes" on DSLR if it happens to have it)

#

D7200 before/after

#

(after = there's no more video section) lol

jade knoll
#

does it say if a lens is external focus

errant fox
#

yes we have internal focus as a true/false

jade knoll
#

what about focus breathing thats more subjective

errant fox
#

afaik there's no measurement of this that's standardized

#

just something we can include in notes or staff verdict in dramatic cases

errant fox
#

i wanna add a page with a bunch of things like this

#

this image has the actual images from different lenses overlayed on the same scene

#

then i want to add a "fit" mode where it actualy just changes between the images at full size

minor bough
#

You could atleast start with a base image, showing what different focal lengths look like on different sensors
The issue with that is we can't all have the exact same location to shoot at so you'd get a bunch of variety in the comparison photos and it makes it harder to compare

errant fox
#

I mean we just need someone with like 16-200mm covered with not too many gaps

#

I have that myself

#

13-30, 40, 50, 70-200, 400

#

I’ll just do a few myself and others can do some

#

We can do multiple subjects

#

And could add APSC vs full frame to this as well

versed fjord
#

this reminds me i entirely forgot to do this a while ago

#

i have 15-560

#

only gap is 30-35

errant fox
#

Get on it πŸ”₯

#

We have to choose focal lengths though

#

16, 24, 35, 50, 85, 105, 135, 200, 400

minor bough
versed fjord
#

youll have to remind me later once i get my tripod back

minor bough
versed fjord
#

but yeah i can cover all of those

errant fox
#

Oh gotcha yeah I’m not worried about that,

That image is comparing effective focal lengths of different lenses of same aperture, I just want to do the focal lengths overlayed

narrow bloom
versed fjord
#

big difference smh

narrow bloom
#

if caters doing it tho i would appreciate it

#

im lazy as fuck