Sharply Squad

[errant fox]

It would change based on frame size obviously, but I would probably just put buffer at highest quality for the list

[minor bough]

It's weird, with auto iso it's different then with a set iso

Wed have to make some form of generic test and go from there

[versed fjord]

canon kinda struggles especially with the 40fps stuff iirc

they more care for the big number than the infinity

so stuff like r8 and r6ii are only 1 or 2s in 40fps iirc?

[narrow bloom]

bro still doesnt believe i get 5 secs

i take video rn

[versed fjord]

[versed fjord]

fair enough then

but also

is that the blackout you see in vf?

😭

[crystal coyote]

Unusable!!

[versed fjord]

bro its a 5-10 business day blackout

[crystal coyote]

Another Z5ii victory!!

[narrow bloom]

im on manual mode dumbass

room is dark and i needed higher ss

[versed fjord]

🤷

[narrow bloom]

:shrug

[versed fjord]

does buffer stay the same with higher iso?

[narrow bloom]

why would it

does yours?

[versed fjord]

just wondering

[narrow bloom]

file sizes are bigger as iso increases

[versed fjord]

i have not tested myself

[narrow bloom]

use your brain here

[versed fjord]

try it boy

[narrow bloom]

yes it gets smaller

i already know

[versed fjord]

chud

[narrow bloom]

clanker

[versed fjord]

is it a huge amount less or just like 1 image less here and there

[narrow bloom]

huge amount less i assume

since file sizes

[versed fjord]

decent amount ya

weird z9 quirk

[narrow bloom]

20fps 25600 z9 and r8 are pretty similar kek

[versed fjord]

yeah but z9 goat

[narrow bloom]

true

cater face reveal

[versed fjord]

not green enough

lmk when r8 be going perpendicular n shit

[narrow bloom]

dawg what the fuck

[versed fjord]

u know how it is

[narrow bloom]

fully articulating has never been a problem for me 🤷‍♂️

[narrow bloom]

i love shooting to the side while holding my camera above my head

this is definitely a situation i will be in

🔥

[versed fjord]

as you do

okay at 15fps z9 just becomes infinite

no inbetween tho

ig because 15 and 20 divide into 120?

[tepid nest]

https://youtu.be/RvXoZ928qB0?si=j2CaninV1MLx4vJS

[versed fjord]

what card ya got

i need better ones

[tepid nest]

That’s on slow ass old ones

I’d have to find one in my bag to find which exactly.

I should redo it with the faster 1TB ones

[versed fjord]

slow...?

i thought mine were good 😭

[tepid nest]

Not that the 1TB ones are super fast either https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1816134-REG

[versed fjord]

ah minimum 1200

mine are like 480mb

[tepid nest]

These might be the ones in the video I can’t remember. https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1551687-REG

[versed fjord]

upgrading to some 512gbs of the same spec that have 850 sustained

[tepid nest]

It’s always fun seeing this though

[versed fjord]

:(

[tepid nest]

I have slot 2 as overflow so like 50k photos lol. I should probably just do slot 2 as backup or something

[versed fjord]

bruh 😭

backup and then just format the 2nd one and switch to overflow if desperate

[versed fjord]

planning to just grab 2 of these in 512gb models and run backup

this is weird tho

lexar site

bnh says 1200

odd

[tepid nest]

I only got the two 1TB because that BH flash deal.

[versed fjord]

how much?

[tepid nest]

Think it was $180 a card

[versed fjord]

damn wtf

[tepid nest]

I think I took a photo let me check

[versed fjord]

the 512s are 170$ a card in the uk what the fuckkk

insane stuff

[versed fjord]

holy

insane

i pray for deals like this even on the 512 cards 😭

[tepid nest]

It was random i just happened to see someone mention it in one of the lounges.

[versed fjord]

okay yeah im just buying from america

this card is 140 here

i want to spring for the 1tb now but out of stock :/

[tepid nest]

Dang

[versed fjord]

man everywhere just says different stuff

[wispy slate]

lmfao

wtf

[versed fjord]

something something -9ev needs lots of processing power

[wispy slate]

goofy z9

[versed fjord]

room lit by just my monitor still grabbing eye af kinda crazy

[wispy slate]

sounds like its got variable fps

[versed fjord]

meh

never happens unless like sub -5ev

[wispy slate]

explain

[versed fjord]

dw

[wispy slate]

stay strapped or get clapped ig 😭

[versed fjord]

its a vr controller handle 😊

[wispy slate]

are u sure

[versed fjord]

uh huh

[wispy slate]

damn what

[versed fjord]

my z9 parts still not here

very sad

[wispy slate]

what u replacing

[versed fjord]

kensington lock

[wispy slate]

ah

[versed fjord]

was supposed to be here 3 days ago

[wispy slate]

L

Me when no big ass kensington lock cover

[versed fjord]

you when no gripped cam

[wispy slate]

z6 better in one way 🙏

[versed fjord]

sure

[wispy slate]

i gotta wake up at 4:30 tmr morning

[wispy slate]

its 11:35pm smh

im cooked

[versed fjord]

just sleep

[wispy slate]

i going to football game

handegg

the friend im going with, his dad does the flyover for the game

so we get to go to the air base before

[versed fjord]

L

[wispy slate]

High of 31f

basically -1c

[versed fjord]

31

warm

[wispy slate]

not 31f

💔

[errant fox]

Okay yeah if even small shit like this causes inconsistencies I’m gonna just skip it for now

More risk of giving wrong info or misleading info than actually useful info

[versed fjord]

just like
lowest base iso
1/1000 or fastest ss i guess
no lens but body cap off

should be fine?

[errant fox]

i mean none of that stuff should matter really right, i guess ISO if that happens to be a variable for some reason

only other thing that should matter is the image size

[versed fjord]

ss can limit fps if too low

and with body cap on or lens cap the file sizes drop a lot

[minor bough]

It's not a realistic measurement but it'll mean that we remove a variable that could give different people different results

[errant fox]

not trying to measure effective buffer during shooting though, just whatever it is before you start

idk this seems unrealistic to me right now

will come back to it later

[jagged epoch]

@errant fox we consider hdr pq as 10 bit video yes?

[errant fox]

what is HDR PQ?

[jagged epoch]

Canon's weird hdr recording mode for video

Idaea says it's technically 10 bit

[errant fox]

does not sound like 10-bit to me, probably seperate

i will look into it

[jagged epoch]

But like, no one uses it

Basically hlg

Either way, I set all r10 recording framerates to 10 bit for now and added a note to the gear page

[errant fox]

pretty sure that would be a separate setting from the codec

which codecs does it have?

[jagged epoch]

Probably h265? Cuz you dont see 10 bit h264 very often

It works for every framerate and resolution

[errant fox]

oh so i guess they call it hdr video in the menu? it doesn't actually tell you the codec right?

[jagged epoch]

Nope, just an hdr pq option

[jagged epoch]

Its supposedly designed to be "hdr sooc"

[jagged epoch]

Not really this, lemme show you rq

[errant fox]

i found it

[errant fox]

that is weird, but yeah i think it's unrelated to the video shooting modes

[jagged epoch]

It is technically 10 bit

[errant fox]

is there another way to choose 10-bit?

[jagged epoch]

Not on r10

[errant fox]

hm

[jagged epoch]

R50 and r100 should be the same

Actually idk about r100, that thing is really cut down

[errant fox]

i always thought R50 didn't have 10 bit though

[jagged epoch]

It depends if you call hdr pq "real" 10 bit

Actually I could take sample footage of both recording types and do exif digging

See if it flags as 10 or 8 bit

[errant fox]

ok after looking it seems like HDR PQ is color space

like instead of LOG they have that

its also available for photo which is confusing

[jagged epoch]

That is also true

[jagged epoch]

I'm checking this rn

[errant fox]

they have it listed as 10bit in the manual

[jagged epoch]

First is normal rec, second is hdr pq

Confirmed 10 bit

[errant fox]

what i'm getting its:
It's technically 10-bit rec2020 video, but there's no log color space to go with it
so you would still have to convert it from rec2020 to rec709
it would give some additional data to work with though

(there's no log on r10 right?)

[jagged epoch]

Nope

It's supposed to be like sooc but hdr

[errant fox]

interesting

[jagged epoch]

Iirc

[errant fox]

right, they marketed it really weirdly

is R50 same?

[jagged epoch]

I don't think anyone actually uses it

Probably

[errant fox]

ive been telling people R50 doesn't have 10-bit but R50v does

[jagged epoch]

@minor bough can you check if r50 has hdr pq video recording?

R50v has log

canon doing r10 racism

[errant fox]

ok yeah so confirmed, advantage of R50v is C-Log + 4k 60fps

[jagged epoch]

I have 4k60 too

But cropped

Pixel for pixel

[errant fox]

r50 still has 10-bit in the form of weird PQ color space

[jagged epoch]

ok so hdr pq is flagged as r2020

In the exif

[errant fox]

yup

really confusing for people who don't usually do video

because they will try to use it as is

[jagged epoch]

Yeah so like if we list this as 10 bit then everyone will assume low end bodies have 10 bit video (log)

actually I wonder if I could grade this like log

[errant fox]

it would be better than 8-bit that's for sure

not as much extra working room as C-Log though

[jagged epoch]

True there

I'll do some testing after my midterms to see how much advantage it provides

Compared to r709, I don't actually have log to test sadly

[errant fox]

plus i'm assumign no LUT exists to turn it into rec709 so you would have to use CSTs yourself

so yeah the note should be something like:

"10-bit video comes in the form of HDR PQ shooting mode which outputs Rec. 2020 video with "PQ" color curve. C-Log 3 is not available."

[jagged epoch]

did some test grading, grades in order are:

• sooc hdr pq
• cst from r2020 st2084 to r709
• cst from r2020 st2084 to clog3 cine gamut, then that to r709
  @errant fox

[errant fox]

not too bad honestly, the conditions are shit though so hard to tell haha

[jagged epoch]

sooc, cst to r709, cst to clog3 to r709

[jagged epoch]

i'll do some outdoor testing with clipping highlights to test later

it's dark rn

[errant fox]

@jagged epoch

[jagged epoch]

Oh neat

[errant fox]

made a trending page

[errant fox]

this hall of fame is definitely one of my favorite features

[wispy slate]

DX 35mm over r6iii 🗣️🗣️🗣️🔥🔥🔥

[errant fox]

with a grand total of 13 views

[cosmic dagger]

Early days

[errant fox]

working on comparison

[versed fjord]

are the images to scale?

[shy solar]

dimensions weird

[tepid nest]

It's a wip you forkwits

[minor bough]

it does look like it

[narrow bloom]

look at the sensors you clanker

makes zr look like medium format kek

[versed fjord]

this is why i made the joke

[tepid nest]

Is Clanker the hot new thing now

[versed fjord]

i guess so

new fake slur

[tepid nest]

Hot with the 12 year olds

[minor bough]

i miss when clankers were the droids from the prequels in star wars

[tepid nest]

https://tenor.com/view/droideka-droid-starwars-rollout-gif-12437511703377491057

[narrow bloom]

not anymore really im just addicted to it

[tepid nest]

Just call people cunt like a normal person

[narrow bloom]

TRUE

[minor bough]

cunt isnt even a slur down here

[jagged epoch]

Amazing

[errant fox]

yo so i don't really know what else needs to be done before this is ready to go

does anyone have any obvious shit i'm missing

biggest thing is just more content and gear images i think

[narrow bloom]

i think it's good tbh

[shy solar]

still havent done this

https://www.sharplyphoto.com/_next/image?url=https%3A%2F%2Futfs.io%2Ff%2FmJwI0W8NBfTnd8KiOPt0HF8TGqsvlIEWRPn6ywJp3XzgAYQ1&w=3840&q=75

is this open domain?

only thing lighthouse flags

some error

subjective, but i find it somewhat jarring to have such a gap between date and the title

put them just on top of each other i think would be better

woah insta post builder didnt even see that

wip i assume

do we really need to include cents

this just doesnt work?

how do i remove items from compare

or edit comparisons

[minor bough]

Some bloke out there might want to know cents

[shy solar]

make it consistent then

2,199.00

[errant fox]

What does this mean

[shy solar]

No credit or anything needed?

Public domain*

[errant fox]

Oh, it’s unsplash

Need to add credit some places

[shy solar]

Better yet center the entire column

[errant fox]

It does, which items were you comparing

[shy solar]

Two of the z6 variants. Idk

Also this UI is rather unintuitive. If I'm on the compare screen and it says "search for 2 items to add to comparison", my first instinct is just to click the item name, which then brings me to the single page for them. Also seems like the compare icons are not loading properly on mobile.

How do I remove items from comparison btw? You can see I've added two items already and nothing happens

But when I go back to the main page I can finally see this? Which leads to a page that doesn't show any comparison?

[shy solar]

If you wanna save some hassle too write a parser that automatically fills out focal length and aperture from the lens name into the fields, easily get more stuff that's over the line for completeness

Also probably get a few basic learning guides written before publicizing it

[jagged epoch]

If it's all automatic, I would be out of a job

[errant fox]

https://www.sharplyphoto.com/gear/sony-a7-v

[versed fjord]

cf-b?

[errant fox]

i just assumed

fix

if u like

also it has that combo thing which i wasn't aware of

need to add that somehow

[versed fjord]

yeah its very weird

cf-a + sd and then a 2nd slot with only sd?

so odd

[errant fox]

fixed

[versed fjord]

[narrow bloom]

oh of course there's always a quirk like this in modern cameras

why

[shy solar]

Just aperture and f stop, can't pull any other data out of the name

[shy solar]

Yo

Why it not padded properly 😭

[errant fox]

yeah idk its fucking annoying

when there's no PFP its correct

i gotta look at it agian

[shy solar]

Could be from gap?

[errant fox]

fixed

[shy solar]

nice

is it fixed on mobile?

[errant fox]

ya

[errant fox]

this is fixed whenever a post is edited now in the cms

[errant fox]

this was fixed

that whole group of messages i think was fixed

[errant fox]

just made it for my own use and figured might as well put it here lol
if you have ideas to improve it

[shy solar]

Really useful imo actually

Only thing is the padding % should be customizable, and there should be some way to place inages so they aren't cropped

I have a python script I use that takes the original image res, calculate which side will be hitting the 5% padding, then shrink it all down keeping aspect ratio to where that side is fitting perfectly

And making images able to span between slides, for wide stuff

[errant fox]

how would they not be cropped if post is 3:4 tho

or do you just mean it would fit within the frame rather than fill

[shy solar]

Wdym?

[shy solar]

Just a toggle to do that yeah

[errant fox]

personally i'm not interested in doing that stuff

ill open source it eventually maybe others can

lol

maybe the multiframe images

[shy solar]

Open source would be dope

[errant fox]

probably will do soon

just never done it before for like a real complex project

i'm not sure how to advise people on local development with DB and stuff

and gotta make sure everything is tidy, documented, e2e testing, and security

[lofty niche]

yea, i'll be interested in contributing also. this is super cool.

[shy solar]

Going to expose all of floh's vibecoding

[errant fox]

there was a lot of vibecoding

most of the trending system and the AI summaries for reviews was vibes lol

the new models are so good, and with enough rules and instructions the code is really good

its like 50/50 now on whether it's faster to prompt then review, or just do it yourself

[lofty niche]

yea vibe coding is great these days. it keeps on impressing me.

which model did you use?

[errant fox]

i was using GPT 5 high reasoning the most

but then it one day got like super dumb

then i switched to gpt 5 medium reasoning

been using gpt 5 codex for a bit but its a bit pricey

[lofty niche]

i haven't tried gpt. i've been mostly playing aroudn with claude and gemini. claude was amazing but gemini 3 blew it away when i tested it

https://antigravity.google/

try it out sometime. it impressed me (this is a personal opinion, and not professional).

[errant fox]

is this available in cursor?

[errant fox]

claude is incredible but so fucking expensive

it's not that much better than gpt, just A LOT faster

gpt used to be kinda shit for coding but gpt 5 is a big improvement

context window size is probably most important part for coding, the more reference and instructions you can fit into the prompts the better

[lofty niche]

i haven't used cursor, but yea, it seems like you can just switch themodel to gemini 3

[lofty niche]

this is an area i've started lightly looking into lately

[errant fox]

oh ok cool

yeah i think its just expensive compared to gpt

[lofty niche]

have you used context7? https://context7.com/

[errant fox]

looking

[lofty niche]

https://upstash.com/blog/context7-mcp

[errant fox]

i was under the impression this was for use during training or something

should i be copying those into cursor?

that's really cool though

500k tokens just for that doc tho

this project reached a point now where it's too big for me to just be lazy with prompts, it doesn't always find the right context and references

[lofty niche]

lol damn it, i got wrapped in the conversation here and missed the first 5 minutes of the meeting

[lofty niche]

i haven't tested it out yet (i learned about it yesterday), but from what i heard in the call, it sounded like you can just add an mcp endpoint to your editor

ah yea https://github.com/upstash/context7?tab=readme-ov-file#cursor-remote-server-connection

[lofty niche]

i've played around with only demo projects so i haven't experienced that yet.

these are all the pain points i am very interested in hearing about (it is a part of my job).

and yea, would love to jump into the open source for sharly so i can experience the pain points myself

[errant fox]

I can just invite you as collaborator so before I do all the open sourcing work just send me username

Or I guess there’s forking for private repos?

Or maybe I just say fuck it an open it up

Okay yeah send username I’ll figure something out

@shy solar you too

[lofty niche]

sent you a dm

[shy solar]

We should get a programmers channel

[shy solar]

You're a SWE right?

[lofty niche]

i was. i'm a developer advocate now. so i don't code as much.

[errant fox]

i have an empty sharply server rn for contributors and admins if needed later
for now should be fine

hopefully everything can just stay here

[shy solar]

Does the discord on sharply link here?

Forgot to check

[errant fox]

yes

[shy solar]

I need to up my level of vibe coding lol. I've just been opening Claude on web and tweaking my prompt whenever it veered from what I wanted it to do. Lots of issues with niche Rust libraries

[lofty niche]

i'm just ramping up on this now also. i just got put on this project only a couple of months ago, so i'm still ramping up on the ai space. as a developer advocate, i help developers. however, now the developers are not just humans anymore. an ai agent is also a developer, and i help ai now. and one of the areas i am looking at right now a little bit is how can we help ai agents use the latest library. this is a big issue. imagine you launch a big api, but its usage is low because people are coding with ai agents and your brand new shiny api is not in the model. it's a big go-to-market problem.

[shy solar]

Really on the edge about majoring in CS lol. At their core previously my impression was that SWEs and junior devs are there to produce code at the direction of some manager. If AI gets good enough to the point that the manager or technical lead can directly work with it, whats the need for the devs?

EE seems a bit further away from this future, and I already have quite some experience there, bit more appealing I think

[lofty niche]

If AI gets good enough to the point that the manager or technical lead can directly work with it, whats the need for the devs?
¯_(ツ)_/¯
no idea

[shy solar]

I think I've amassed enough college credits that I could just go to Purdue and dual major though, reevaluate everything in 3-4 years

[shy solar]

Is developer advocate like interfacing between different teams, writing docs and stuff, advising any roadblocks the younger devs get into?

[lofty niche]

it is a jack-of-all-trades role. someone who can talk tech and also talk to people. it's a really adaptable role and it's hard to describe everything i do. and yea, one of the things i do is talk between teams, talk to the ecosystem, talk to developers, and do something about whatever i find out. and creating content is part of the job, like writings docs, recording videos, and speaking at conferences.

[minor bough]

nah Fr
There's enough of us surely

[jagged epoch]

ok I do some sharply now

@errant fox @minor bough the admin gear page is acting up, can one of you change this to 600mm

cuz it fits in between the 1988 lenses, and that's 600 f4

[narrow bloom]

60 f4 🔥

[jagged epoch]

L too 🔥

[jagged epoch]

Nvm, admin page works now

[jagged epoch]

anyways, every mainstream canon EF, EF-M and RF lens has been added and specced out

mainstream as in no cinema fuckery

[errant fox]

ur cracked

thats crazy

[jagged epoch]

I'm unemployed

[errant fox]

site needs some nikon love now its all just canon

[jagged epoch]

And also on vacation

TRUE

I'll start doing nikon stuff when I finish canon bodies

[errant fox]

and images

[jagged epoch]

Also Floh why aren't we doing teleconverters yet?

[errant fox]

they just aren't lenses or cameras or fixed lens cameras

so there's no category for them

[jagged epoch]

Mhm

[errant fox]

ill make a simple way to add them later

[jagged epoch]

Delete the ef ones I already added while you're at it

[errant fox]

oof

do you have the slugs?

or exact names in the DB?

[jagged epoch]

I don't remember tbh, did them a while back

They're called EXTENDER

Then 1.4 or 2

[errant fox]

oh i think i did that already

[jagged epoch]

They're still in the contribute page idk

[errant fox]

damn yeah

ok

[jagged epoch]

Yep

[errant fox]

btw this is our not found page

yikes

[jagged epoch]

🔥 🔥 🔥 🔥 🔥 🔥

[jagged epoch]

That's a very blurry bird

[narrow bloom]

how am i still in 3rd place ive been fucking dead on this site for like a month 💀

[errant fox]

done

[shy solar]

Are we going to add accessories sometime

[errant fox]

Yes just not sure how yet

Or which

Might just create an “accessories” category and just let the specs be open-ended/user-defines structure

[jagged epoch]

For teleconverters I recommend a modified version of the lens structure

Cuz they are lenses without things like af motors and aperture blades

[errant fox]

they have like almost no specs to them though

[jagged epoch]

Still worth doing sometime

[errant fox]

yeah will

[cosmic dagger]

The problem with TCs is that the mirrorless systems haven’t gotten to gen-2 yet

So for the moment, the best anyone can do is show how much image degradation the sole converter on a given mount creates when applied to a certain lens

And on EF/F, you just buy the latest TC anyway

[tepid nest]

apparently now i have to have all my edits approved. What kind of horse shit is this

[errant fox]

this would be unexpected

[tepid nest]

https://tenor.com/view/work-screw-it-vacation-so-done-finished-gif-7733926

[errant fox]

what are you trying to edit?

[tepid nest]

X2D

[errant fox]

oh

yeah that has a bug rn

the changes are there to approve, just not approvable because of an issue

so once it's fixed they will go

[tepid nest]

worst dev

jk, I'm the one with a huge memory leak in a barebones app framework using default macos ui shit. I bad.

ahaha

[errant fox]

lmao

[jagged epoch]

I was wondering why I couldn't approve it

[shy solar]

i need a new side project

[jagged epoch]

Finish all the specs for all canon bodies

[crystal coyote]

Learn about psychiatric illnesses

It's fun!

[jagged epoch]

Can someone with a mental illness do the R1 video specs for me

I refuse to add all those weirdass codecs

Also @errant fox we need 180fps and 150fps, r8 has those

[errant fox]

not really

wait

you mean like as a photographer

or for sharply

im dumb

ill add those

[errant fox]

added, refresh

i lied actually

one sec

[errant fox]

@jagged epoch it's fixed for real now

[narrow bloom]

no tf it doesnt?

1080 120 is the max no?

nvm im autistic

wtf 180p

[jagged epoch]

Read the spec sheet bro

[jagged epoch]

@errant fox rn autofocus subject categories aren't being registered into the system

is this a known problem?

like when you submit an edit with af subject cat. in it, it won't update

[errant fox]

Hm I’ll look

[errant fox]

fix is deploying now

[errant fox]

@tepid nest the X2D was failing becuase it was trying to enter "100" as the viewfinder magnification, but it's supposed to be only 99.99 or less

do you remember what you entered?
do you remember what the actual value is?

[errant fox]

I also added hasselblad mounts

[narrow bloom]

yum

[tepid nest]

I was pretty sure they said 100 lol

I dunno it was a while ago I can’t remember

Oh maybe I mixed up magnification and coverage idfk

[errant fox]

working on adding proper scaling to compare page so items are acurately sized compared to each other

before on top and after on bottom

(it's still slightly off in this example because of issues with the images themselves)

[errant fox]

fuck this was a pain in the ass, but looks good to go

correct scales

I will be allowing people to upload image soon

Finding Images

If you are getting an image from a manufacturer press release asset, make sure to use the front facing image with no lens (sensor showing). If one is not available, choose the best available front-facing image. Prefer w body cap, then w/ lens if needed.

It is absolutely essential that you do not ever grab images from sites other than manufacturers sites. Images from sites like DP Review or other review sites are strictly off limits.

Processing Images

• Import into Photoshop
• Remove background if there is one, make sure edges are clean, no white or black left
  • Make sure to remove any holes for straps or in small details
  • Sometimes it helps to do (Select > Modify > Contract > 1px. Do this before sizing the image down.)
• Crop tightly on all edges (aspect ratio does not matter)
• If image is larger than 1000px wide, do Image > Image Size > Select "Pixels" for Width > Type 1000px for pixel value leaving resolution at 72 and resampling automatic
• Export as .webp (File > Save As or Save a Copy > Format = webp)
  • Select 75% quality, do not include any metadata or extras

Uploading Images

After processing the image properly and saving it as a webp, admins can visit the gear item's page and click "manage image" button on right side to upload the image

[jagged epoch]

Time to install photoshop

[jagged epoch]

@errant fox can we get PCMCIA Type I/II cards please

[errant fox]

What’s that

[jagged epoch]

Ancient storage medium

For the old canon bodies

Before CF

[narrow bloom]

never heard of it kek

oh pc cards

weird ass official name

[jagged epoch]

I'm going to start calling them Secure Digital cards

[errant fox]

so is it just PC?
PCMCIA is a propreitary name for it from canon?

or is PCMCIA the actual full naem

[narrow bloom]

PCMCIA is the official name

people just call em PC cards

they used to be expansion cards for laptops and computers

[errant fox]

working on per shutter-type fps

the display could use some work but functionality is there

[errant fox]

better maybe?

[narrow bloom]

looks great

[errant fox]

looking real nice with images getting filled in

[shy solar]

all this to get DMCA'd

[narrow bloom]

zlushie gonna report us

[errant fox]

It could happen no lie

Pretty confident though

[tepid nest]

If review websites get to use their release assets why wouldn't you

[errant fox]

Yeah

Maybe they have agreements though

Idk

I emailed both Nikon and canon and never heard back so

[narrow bloom]

it's ok i'll go knock on canon korea's front door next week

🔥🔥

[cosmic dagger]

i doubt camera-decision pays for all those image files

[jagged epoch]

Who can add pics rn?

Cuz I can't

[errant fox]

ill enable in a sec

[errant fox]

Capturing Images

https://github.com/Flohhhhh/sharply/blob/main/docs/gear-images/gear-image-processing-steps.md

Gear images for thumbnails should be front facing images captured at 50mm, deep apertures like f/8 or f/9, and with no lens on the camera.

Sensor will be digitally enhanced or replace in final result if needed.

Finding Images

To find images start by looking for a manufacturer press release. They often include images intended for news and press use available for download.
It is absolutely essential that you do not ever grab images from sites other than manufacturers sites. Images from sites like DP Review or other review sites are strictly off limits.

For Cameras

Make sure to use the front facing image with no lens (sensor showing). If one is not available, choose the best available front-facing image. Prefer w body cap, then w/ lens if needed.

For Lenses

Prefer a horizontal left facing (front element facing left, mount facing right) image with front element visible. If one is not available, look for a vertiaclly aligned image with front element visible that can be rotated to face left.

Processing Images

• Import into Photoshop
• Remove background if there is one, make sure edges are clean, no white or black left. Do this before sizing the image down.
  • Select > Subject
  • Select > Modify > Contract > 1px (check "apply effect at image bounds")
  • Make sure to remove any holes for straps or in small details
• If it's a lens and not facing left (front element toward left) rotate into that orientation
• Crop tightly on all edges (aspect ratio does not matter)
• If image is larger than 1000px wide, do Image > Image Size > Select "Pixels" for Width > Type 1000px for pixel value leaving resolution at 72 and resampling automatic
• Export as .webp (File > Save As or Save a Copy > Format = webp)
  • Select 75% quality, do not include any metadata or extras

Uploading Images

After processing the image properly and saving it as a webp, admins can visit the gear item's page and click "manage image" button on right side to upload the image

[jagged epoch]

👍

[jagged epoch]

@errant fox

[narrow bloom]

you must be an admin to upload images btw

[jagged epoch]

[jagged epoch]

I have all r bodies ready, excluding r6iii

[shy solar]

😭

square a demon

[narrow bloom]

full time unemployed

[jagged epoch]

photoshop big and clunky

gimp my beloved

[errant fox]

Rip will fix

You can’t press button at all right?

[errant fox]

@jagged epoch fixed

[errant fox]

why not R6iii it's right here https://www.usa.canon.com/newsroom/2025/20251106-consumer

ill do it tho

oh i already did it that's why

got it

[errant fox]

here's my rough outline of the beginner's educational content:

Intro Section: Photography Basics

1. How Interchangeable-Lens Cameras Work

   • What a camera actually does
   • Film vs digital overview
   • Sensor sizes
   • Lenses and how they shape the image
   • Autofocus basics
   • Aperture, shutter, ISO as building blocks

2. The Exposure Triangle

   • Aperture
   • Shutter speed
   • ISO
   • How they interact
   • Example decision situations
   • Common beginner misunderstandings

3. Photography Genres and Careers

   • Core genres and what they test
   • Why different gear exists
   • Career paths with short realistic summaries
   • How photographers specialize
   • Common misconceptions about going pro

4. How to Buy Your First Camera

   • Setting a budget
   • Choosing a brand ecosystem
   • How to think about lenses
   • What specs actually matter
   • Recommended starter kits
   • Upgrade roadmap

[narrow bloom]

i have some slideshows about exposure triangle that me and my friends made for my school's photo club if ya wanna steal it

[errant fox]

lmao bro

ill look at it

[errant fox]

this is fire tbh

[versed fjord]

the great #💸・shopping-help automation is coming

[errant fox]

i made an infinite scroll of all gear

so if you want to you can see a list of all gear ever (assuming it's on the site)

[narrow bloom]

hell yeah

[errant fox]

https://www.sharplyphoto.com/browse

[wispy slate]

bet

[narrow bloom]

fuck does that mean

what does bet mean in this context 😭

[errant fox]

I think “bet I’ll look at every single item”

[jagged epoch]

Bro will look at all the things I did and not help at all

I'll try to add the pics after breakfast

[jagged epoch]

dawg

@errant fox

[errant fox]

Doing what

[jagged epoch]

the site says 800px max on the long edge, I'll try that

[jagged epoch]

adding pic

[errant fox]

Nah that’s bs

I’ve been doing with 1000

[jagged epoch]

hmmmmmmmmmmm

lemme try different gear page

[errant fox]

I’ll check logs

[jagged epoch]

nope doesn't work on another page either

tried R and R1

[errant fox]

Unauthorized again

Man

[jagged epoch]

weird

[errant fox]

At which stage of the upload did it happen?

Did it let you open the window to upload?

[jagged epoch]

yeah, I uploaded the pic, it processed and then it just did the error

[jagged epoch]

oh fuck

anyways, you get it

[errant fox]

Gotta fix tomorrow sorry

[jagged epoch]

sure sure

[versed fjord]

my months of not helping and still being member #2

i finally have a long weekend so i might check back in on the site

clear out some nikon teles

[jagged epoch]

I agree

[versed fjord]

200-400 here i come

[errant fox]

@jagged epoch fixed again

[jagged epoch]

cool, I’ll try it

IT WORKS

ok someone do Ra, and then all R bodies will be done

might have to redo r7

later though, I have a meeting

[errant fox]

send an example so i can check

ill look at r7 too

[jagged epoch]

it’s all on the site now

[errant fox]

@jagged epoch there's a slight white outline on some of them

make sure to contract selection after making it

[errant fox]

Lot's of changes going in

• profile picture changing
• fixes for gear /browse page
• search enhancements
• docs for discord bot commands (/discord/bot-commands)

[wispy slate]

doom scroll all of sharply inventory

[errant fox]

https://www.sharplyphoto.com/learn/the-exposure-triangle
please rate my exposure triangle guide

still need to add some images and stuff

[narrow bloom]

not sure if it's just me but it loads in a weird format

[errant fox]

zoom out bro

[narrow bloom]

yeah ik, but it leaves a bunch of space on the left side and i have to scroll horizontally for some reason

and i like the idea of the analogy, iso as rocks making the water dirty is something i havent seen anywhere else

but it's a bit wordy imo

[errant fox]

i think this is a you problem

[narrow bloom]

cooked

[errant fox]

what browser is this

[narrow bloom]

opera gx

ill try on chrome and safari 1 sec

[errant fox]

skull

rest of the site works fine on same browser?

[narrow bloom]

yea

[narrow bloom]

yeah it works fine on safari and chrome, opera is just stupid

[errant fox]

lmao bro

redacted browser

[narrow bloom]

safari, chrome

opera stoobid

i just use opera cuz it looks cool

[errant fox]

use zen

sleeper browser

firefox fork

[errant fox]

https://sharplyphoto.com/learn/the-exposure-triangle
i shortened it a bit, hopefully some images will break up the wall of text

man it's been a long time since i wrote something myself

[narrow bloom]

yea looks better!

any reason you're not using any old pic from the internet for these comparison charts?

[errant fox]

because technically that belongs to someone

[narrow bloom]

i can make one

[errant fox]

That’s the spirit

[errant fox]

this is cool

i setup search shortcut on my browser
so i can type s - space and it automatically only searches on sharply

[tepid nest]

you should loop Seth into the bot stuff maybe it can be integrated with his bot or get yours invited or something

[errant fox]

i mentioned i was making and he said could be invited i think

will update once its actually ready

[tepid nest]

sweet

[jagged epoch]

@errant fox @minor bough do we account for inflation in prices

For old things

[errant fox]

no whatever you can buy it at right now

[tepid nest]

fuck the white edges on the camera photo

[jagged epoch]

I apologise

I will be away for a week though, if yall want to you can fix it

[tepid nest]

I was just talking about my Z9 image

[jagged epoch]

Oh.

I fucked up a few in the canon section

Feel free to fix

If not I'll do it when I get back

[errant fox]

i fear this well never happen again

[errant fox]

anyone have feelings about which one is easier to read and understand?

[narrow bloom]

second one imo

[errant fox]

fuck

i just abandoned that because it's too repetitive

[narrow bloom]

💀

is each rating gonna be a set value if it's in the second form?

like on the bar thing

[errant fox]

no, its just the 3 options that's why

there's no 1-10

[narrow bloom]

mmm

ig then first one works too

both are good tbh

[errant fox]

this is how it's staying for now

[cosmic dagger]

That’s nice and legible

[jagged epoch]

Where's "unacceptable"

[errant fox]

I think im almost prepared to stay this is ready for public

[errant fox]

cleaned up the links a bit

[tepid nest]

Nice

[errant fox]

I have officially opened the site to search engines

https://tenor.com/view/wedding-crasher-hro-gif-25636997

Feel free to start sharing gear pages in other channels if there is a desire/need to do so

Bot integration can hopefully be achieved soon

Sharply Squad

[minor bough]

Time to make some tags

[errant fox]

tags?

[minor bough]

!xxxx

[errant fox]

https://www.sharplyphoto.com/discord/bot-commands

i already made these things

and then i think idaea will eventually want to host his gear help thing on here somehow, which would then change the target of those existing !gh things

[minor bough]

yeah thats what i meant

[errant fox]

btw you can add the bott as user app if you so choose

https://discord.com/oauth2/authorize?client_id=1403728492914409633

[versed fjord]

will this sell my data to palantir yet

or is this upcoming

[errant fox]

that feature is in beta

u can try it if you sub to the premium plan

[narrow bloom]

sell your data to me

[tepid nest]

Pretty slick

[versed fjord]

no its too important

my shitposts must be secure

[narrow bloom]

i give u chicken nuggets and 4 cents

[versed fjord]

i just got 2kg of chicken drumsticks for free from work

ill pass

[errant fox]

https://www.sharplyphoto.com/gear/sigma-18-50mm-f2-8-dc-dn-contemporary

this is too popular to not have data

but i gtg rn

just noticed it was empty

[tepid nest]

Should make a page for admins/editors that show pages missing the most amount of fields etc

Then just have it auto email the unemployed bozos

[versed fjord]

so.... square and no one else

[tepid nest]

Hehe

[errant fox]

https://www.sharplyphoto.com/lists/under-construction

[tepid nest]

Fuckkkkk you

🙂

Of course you already thought of that

[jagged epoch]

Public launch 🔥

[minor bough]

we're no longer the sharply launch squad

just the sharply squad

[jagged epoch]

Sharpies

[wispy slate]

first

[jagged epoch]

Bro is late

Anyways, I'm busy the whole December so I'll probably be inactive on sharply for a while

In Jan I'll get back to it

[errant fox]

this is honestly pretty sick lol

[wispy slate]

Jan mentioned?

[jagged epoch]

Bro put !

[wispy slate]

Me when fat finger

[shy solar]

long ass meta

[errant fox]

yeah meta has to be re-done in some places, as the context of the site becomes more clear it will be easier

[jagged epoch]

I was gonna say what about using serial numbers in the url, but then most of the items don't have serials added

Floh, check out the items in the canon museum. Maybe you can take inspiration from there

For the urls

[errant fox]

he means the description

the slugs are most ideal way to do the url

[shy solar]

www also unnecessary

also consider removing nikon from lens slugs

as they'll always be nikkor

damn nice it shows lists

organic traffic will be hard, its not gonna beat out the current highest SEO sites

best bet is publish on all the media you can think of

and get people to share stuff

affiliate with PL and stubby n shi if they're willing

otherwise this will die in the 1 billionth page of google

i thinks

[errant fox]

It’s recommended to use it these days

[errant fox]

Brand is before every slug on the site rn regardless of if the item name has it

[errant fox]

Those other sites are mostly shit

Biggest challenge is just getting content

[shy solar]

yeah but how u gonna knock dxomark or cameracompare off the top links lol

[errant fox]

Just like how any new site eventually wins

Luck and being better

Or maybe it never will and it was a shit idea from the start

Only time will tell

Biggest disadvantages right now are the lack of ability to pump out written content and the lack of sample photos and technical charts

[shy solar]

steal em

something something redistribution is fine if not commercial and its public (i think?)

[errant fox]

Having modern UX and stuff like static generation for every gear page is already a huge seo advantage with the crowd sourcing, we probably already have a similar number of gear pages generated as some of the other review sites add using static html from 2002

[errant fox]

It is commercial though

[shy solar]

what

well

unlucky

[shy solar]

email the digital picture guy and hope hey'll chill w that

[errant fox]

lol doubt

Sample images is not that hard, just need people to want to do it

Test chart photos is harder because expensive setup

MTF is about the same difficulty as that

Also having a good internal search I think is a big advantage.

No one is really going to dpreview home page then searching themselves because it’s garbage

They just rely on search engines entirely

[minor bough]

Written content is something we can probably collaborate on given a list to work on

[shy solar]

i mean as i said

best bet is publish on all the media you can think of

get more people like square who like the idea and contribute

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[errant fox]

eh, writing does take some qualification, can't just have any high schooler writing stuff

[minor bough]

Best bet is just peer reviewing in multiple stages

[errant fox]

maybe

i think best bet is just paying someone who is good tho

second best would be peer review lol

[shy solar]

genuinely use claude to create a profile for your writing, then minddump whatever you want to say and have it rewrite in your voice

it is STUPID good at imitation of writing techniques

[errant fox]

nah not doing full AI for content

need to retain some trust

[shy solar]

[errant fox]

plus i've found it generally shit for writing

i can try the claude thing though for press release and other copy-pasta shit though

[jagged epoch]

@narrow bloom go do canon specs while I'm away

[errant fox]

workin on the collection to make it nicer

[tepid nest]

Mmm badges. Gotta collect em all

[errant fox]

I'm trying to make an analog camera table

but i don't really know what specs are relevant

Type
Single-Lens Reflex (SLR) Camera
Rangefinder Camera
Twin-Lens Reflex (TLR) Camera
Point-and-Shoot Camera
Large Format Camera
Instant Camera
Disposable Camera
Toy Camera
Stereo Camera
Panoramic Camera
Folding Camera
Box Camera
Pinhole Camera
Press Camera```

[crystal coyote]

Press Camer 🙏

[jagged epoch]

Can we finish digital first 😭

But anyways for analog, we care more about shit like FOCUSING METHOD (ground glass, rangefinder, etc.), SHUTTER TYPE (Copal, Leaf, focal plane, etc.), LIGHT METERING (ttl, non-ttl, extinction style, led or matchstick, etc.)

[errant fox]

The goal is not to finish just to do most popular stuff

[errant fox]

And as many images as possible

[gusty yoke]

Yo, amazon link in specs has to be from official store or could be from random seller?

[jolly quarry]

would a price trend chart be an option for each thing

like this

[shy solar]

just link to camelcamelcamel

some site should have an iframe for it too

[versed fjord]

pcpp moment

[jolly quarry]

yes

[minor bough]

@jade knoll maybe like a sentence more or something? or is that literally you need to talk about with it lol

like maybe some pro/cons kinda thing

squares for example

[jolly quarry]

(is this a review)

[jade knoll]

this is my review

write ur own reviews

[minor bough]

Alright lmao

[errant fox]

Those reviews are open to public

Short is fine

Same thing as Amazon reviews or any other reviews

It’s meant to be about your personal experience with the gear

[minor bough]

Ah

I thought it was like a staff review type of thing mb

[jolly quarry]

@errant fox i did one or two or three items' data

[jagged epoch]

Bro is not on my level

[jolly quarry]

i have not ever touched the website before that

so

dont talk

id put on more if i can be arsed

[jagged epoch]

You'll never achieve true power

[jolly quarry]

i will one day

[jagged epoch]

[frosty plaza]

uh

[versed fjord]

free labour

[frosty plaza]

got the login email to finally show in my photos inbox, it was coming through as spam and wouldn't show me for a while

any way to delete my other account with my main email?

need the moderators to approve my edits so i can get my gear in my collection 🗣️

i know it's christmas but i dont' care

[errant fox]

I’ll do it dm me the email you want deleted

[frosty plaza]

frq sent

[errant fox]

Done

[frosty plaza]

my hero

maybe i'm dumb, but i don't see a way to create a new lens

[frosty plaza]

i also don't see a way to add images to existing gear

[errant fox]

Yeah admins only

Slow progress on that

[errant fox]

If you have specific ones you want let me know

[frosty plaza]

Tamron 15-30 G2, Tamron 24-70 G2, Tamron 150-600 G2 for starters

i think that'll have all my gear covered

[versed fjord]

i was trying to add my own kit last night when i was drunk and the 135 1.8 wasn't there
was so sad but i didnt try self making it 😭

[errant fox]

Plena?

[versed fjord]

siggy

is there a way to rearrange collection also?

[versed fjord]

(gonna add it later dw)

[errant fox]

It’s sorted

• cameras (sorted release date descending)
• lenses (sorted by focal length ascending)

[versed fjord]

oh okay i guess i coincidentally picked them all in order 😭

[frosty plaza]

just put in a bunch of specs for the gear i own, i think i filled out just about every missing spec from what i own

probably won't spend much time filling in specs for gear i don't own though

you should add links to website/instagram/etc on people's profile

[errant fox]

True good idea

[versed fjord]

this is basically gonna be how we get anything

most of the niche kit too lel

people wanting to flex

[frosty plaza]

yeah

[versed fjord]

i added the basics on the majority of my kit for now

will go more in depth when i get time

fuck adding images tho thats effort i dont have sorry 😭

[frosty plaza]

you can't do that anyway

only mods can

[frosty plaza]

i'm the complete opposite, images are even more important to me than details like original msrp or element group count

[versed fjord]

im a mod c:

[frosty plaza]

o damn

where do i sign up

[versed fjord]

heh

[frosty plaza]

(mostly kidding, i'd love to be a mod but i don't have to be)

[frosty plaza]

defeatcry

[versed fjord]

#000002 is my life achievement

[frosty plaza]

i don't even get a number

😭

[versed fjord]

😭

did we forget how to count

[frosty plaza]

apparently

[tepid nest]

Member 2 wtf

[versed fjord]

i was the first person here lel

[errant fox]

Big flex

[frosty plaza]

@errant fox the qr codes on the profiles open https://www.sharplyphoto.com/qr, not a specific account id

[errant fox]

Yes that’s intended

[versed fjord]

i been believing in the cause 🙏

[errant fox]

But actually your idea might be better

Also that route is dead I didn’t know that lol

[frosty plaza]

/qr just gives me this, what are you intending to do?

[errant fox]

Idk tbh

I’ll switch to your idea

Wait that’s hard actually

Idk how to generate them with code

I’ll fix either way

[frosty plaza]

i assumed that the qr code (which is showing up on each user's card) would be a link to their profile, otherwise i don't see what the qr is for

[versed fjord]

yeah itd be cool to open their profile

and show of their kit

[errant fox]

Yeah that makes the most sense

[versed fjord]

quick thing you can copy(the card)
and post here to show people what you have

[frosty plaza]

otherwise you have to share your whole profile link

[versed fjord]

gets them to use the site in a interactive way and does as intended

[frosty plaza]

https://www.sharplyphoto.com/u/fc49e7a6-c513-43f0-99e2-fc491f4db197

nice, embeds

[versed fjord]

maybe editor number idk

[errant fox]

Nah it’s member number

AI fixing all of this for me while I celebrate Christmas 🎅

[versed fjord]

😭

"ai make my website"

[frosty plaza]

copying the collection image isn't working for me

could it be because some items are missing images?

nope nevermind, removed those items and it still fails

[versed fjord]

mine works

safari skill issue?

[frosty plaza]

odd

let me try another browser

ugh worked in Helium (chrome based)

[errant fox]

I’ll try to fix safari issues

[frosty plaza]

no rush at all btw

[versed fjord]

[frosty plaza]

oh yeah i saw 101% too

nice math

[errant fox]

It’s not just uploaded

It’s more than uploaded

[versed fjord]

and its only half way done

[tepid nest]

oh I'm member 3 guess that's not bad

[errant fox]

That’s only 2 more than 1

[jade knoll]

u should add nex 7

goated camera

I'll put the specs in

[tepid nest]

https://www.sharplyphoto.com/gear/sony-nex-7

[versed fjord]

the list of total gear is gonna be so funny for the first few months

random outliers in random series

(excluding canon cuz square is a fucking demon for some reason)

[frosty plaza]

as soon as someone adds those three G2 lenses, I can fill in all the details

[tepid nest]

I just added all the GFX cameras

Gonna go through in a bit and start adding specs one by one

Just need to annoy the wife for a bit first

@errant fox I need to update my AI script can you give me an updated #🍸・fancy-lounge message when you get a chance?

actually I can probably figure it out

[versed fjord]

on it 🫡

[frosty plaza]

my hero

[versed fjord]

15-30 24-70 and 150-600 right?

[frosty plaza]

yep

i can find pictures if you want me to

(i beg you to add product images)

[versed fjord]

i uhh

dont know how to 😭

[frosty plaza]

rip

[versed fjord]

@errant fox gonna leave it for now but model numbers on lenses?
stuff like A041 for tamron stuff

not sure if we're adding it like that or what

[frosty plaza]

imo add that to the title but the existing tamron lenses don't have that

[versed fjord]

ill leave it off as it says it can be added later

[errant fox]

Model numbers aren’t a huge deal, just a double check to prevent duplicates

But I made the duplication checks pretty strong already

[versed fjord]

go wild

gonna add the g1 variants rq cuz why not

[frosty plaza]

very cool

will edit them shortly

[versed fjord]

teehee

all done and i presume most specs are the same if you get bored lol

anyone lmk if you need something added im basically always on 😭

[frosty plaza]

i need product images

shakingfist

[versed fjord]

business hours are over man ask tomorrow

i dont have photoshop

cant do it

[frosty plaza]

once you figure out how to upload them i'll send you images

[errant fox]

https://github.com/Flohhhhh/sharply

Repo is now public

If you find any problems or have suggestions feel free to make issues

If you’re a nerd feel free to contribute

@shy solar

[versed fjord]

oh i can upload them its just i cant make them easily

[frosty plaza]

oh

i'll send you some soon then

[versed fjord]

simple :P

[errant fox]

https://github.com/Flohhhhh/sharply/blob/main/src/server/db/schema.ts
line 457 has camera specs