Sharply Squad

[versed fjord]

ahhh

it means body

[tepid nest]

I mean it makes sense once you know but it's still blah

[versed fjord]

yeah its not gonna be fun adding all of these

[tepid nest]

ILC is the interchangeable lens camera, E is the mount, 9 is the series m2b is the version/generation

[versed fjord]

ilmefx2b
or ilmefx2 no b for the xlr kit

lel

[snow yarrow]

[versed fjord]

i wonder what ilm is for the cine stuff they do

instead of ilc

[snow yarrow]

M for Movie?

[tepid nest]

yeah basically

seems fairly straight forward cater :x

[versed fjord]

ohh

[errant fox]

so is this right

[versed fjord]

i wouldve assumed c for cine or something but already taken so makes sense yeah

[versed fjord]

spaces inbetween a7 iii

or a7 ii

etc

[errant fox]

ok should be fixed

[snow yarrow]

yeah id make it a bit more consistent, currently its "a9" "A9" or "a7"

small a for alpha

and the I should be capital

[errant fox]

yeah im fixing the I

but the a is supposed to be lowercase?

or no

[snow yarrow]

in a7 a9 yeah

[errant fox]

wait a sec

it's not "Alpha A9"

it's either Alpha 9 or a9

[versed fjord]

yeah

[errant fox]

ok ok

[versed fjord]

its a shitshow on the website

[snow yarrow]

i would just do "a9"

the a stands for Alpha

[versed fjord]

alpha 1 or a1ii shit

we just need to stick to one yeah

[tepid nest]

The Alpha Alpha9

[errant fox]

whoever is adding sony sutff please put a space between the camera and the mark numerals

[snow yarrow]

sony shitshow once again

[tepid nest]

I only added the a9 II before I saw cater shitting up all the others ;P

[versed fjord]

yep sorry had realised it cant be edited after so assumed delv would be able to add the proper nomenclature

but uhh

i guess not

so are we just gonna stick to a9 III like that for all?

[errant fox]

ok final answer

[versed fjord]

then fx line is all full caps anyway it seems

looks good

[limber delta]

how do i add like a verdict and also an image

[errant fox]

images we're waiting

gotta figure out best way

verdicts also just wait for now

[limber delta]

i added a review but ill delete it when verdicts are a thing

id say the same thijg

[errant fox]

just leave both if anything

good for the Ai review summary

i mean you can add the verdict if you feel up to it

just make sure it's well written, and be prepared for others to want adjustments to it

should be as objective as possible

[limber delta]

ill actually think about what im writing if i do the verdict

i will most likely only leave reviews on cameras i own/owned

which will just be a7iv, a9ii, a6400 and soon a9iii

[errant fox]

yeah that would be nice haha

[limber delta]

i would say only do your own cameras generally

do all of them really need a verdict

[versed fjord]

not urgently

[errant fox]

for context:
we have user reviews which are just left by anyone (ideally someone who owns it lol)
then we have editorial reviews (will be written later by selected people who are good at writing) (will be an article format)

[versed fjord]

like whos gonna give a serious verdict on the d1

[errant fox]

staff verdict i'm still deciding if we even need it

[limber delta]

x-m5 is the goat camera i loev fuji i love fuji

fuji is the best

[tepid nest]

gfx >

[versed fjord]

i feel the verdict will be good on newer stuff

[limber delta]

a9ii verdict is pretty clear for me

[versed fjord]

but this also kinda requires people buying that stuff

and having experience with similar cameras id think

[limber delta]

i think you can speak on your experiences

[errant fox]

yeah staff verdict is an important point for newer cameras about like "where this launch seems to have landed in the market"

[limber delta]

like the a9ii is obviously mogged by a lot of cameras now, but it keeps up with me af and burst wise

[errant fox]

meant to hold over until an editorial review can be written

[versed fjord]

i just feel his would need a lot of input from multiple people as to not be biased at all

[errant fox]

yeah ideally it should be a concensus discussed here then added

it's more of a thing for when site is launched and a hot new item gets added

but feel free to write for obvious things like Z6iii or things like that where everyone kinda knows what's up

[versed fjord]

just for a brief explanation of its strengths and weaknesses i presume?

and if its actually a worthwhile cam

[errant fox]

• how it landed in the market compared to compeition
• strengths
• weaknesses
• who it's for
• who it's not for

[limber delta]

how it landed in the market? or how it sits now

because a9ii mogged a ton of shit in 2019, but its far from special anymore

[errant fox]

now i guess

can be updated periodically as needed

[versed fjord]

makes sense if a camera stays relevant for that long

[errant fox]

yeah like, d5300, D3200, D7200, D750, D810
these are all commonly recommended despite age

best in price range type stuff should always have verdict and most attention

[versed fjord]

along with the still pretty high end stuff like 1dx2 and whatnot which is still quite good

but yeah thatd be nice for recs

just dropping a link to the d7200 and having it all explained there and then for the buyer

[errant fox]

yup

[versed fjord]

way better than them going off and looking at cameradecision or versus or whatever

[errant fox]

or /rec d7200
command 🔥

[versed fjord]

fully automated recs by 2027 😭

[errant fox]

sooner

big project though

i tried it before but no matter how many instructions a normal AI agent cant do good recs

probably would have to train a model

or blend with regular code logic

[versed fjord]

i think always itll need a human

[errant fox]

there's so many nuances though it might hjust require humans

[snow yarrow]

frankenstein's monster my brain

[versed fjord]

as most people cant outline what they want in a camera well

welp he volunteered

go for it

[limber delta]

i know exactly what i want from a camera

fuji

fuji goodness

[errant fox]

i already downloaded the entirety of #💸・shopping-help before and tried to train a model off of it
did not work

[versed fjord]

fuji global shutter with 100ms readout

as fuji would do

[limber delta]

i want sony i want sony

[versed fjord]

the shopping help bias would fuck everything

[limber delta]

i want a6700 and i have 20 dollar lens budget

[versed fjord]

not even as individuals being biased but just the sheer amount of people wanting low end shit

[limber delta]

localized global shutter

in little lines

call that rolling shutter

[snow yarrow]

"With a budget of 3000 USD we can recommend Nikon D3200 with AF-S DX 18-70mm f3.5-4.5 G. This keeps your options open for a wild range of photography but also future preferences with lenses and genres!"

[versed fjord]

patent that right now

sounds like gear lounge

[limber delta]

next project is horizontally stacked sensors

for faster burst

two sensors two lens mounts

[versed fjord]

what if he readout started in the center

and then went outwards to the edges

[limber delta]

the rolling shutter would be so crazy

[errant fox]

genius actually

[versed fjord]

i cant even fathom how thatd look

[limber delta]

every pixel should have its own rolling shutter

and they all roll at the same time

so it all happens at once

[versed fjord]

it would like minimize rolling shutter in the center and then the edges just get fucked

[limber delta]

orb shutter

with glass ball surrounding it

[versed fjord]

wait

we make the sensor a circle to use the full image circle

[snow yarrow]

just make rectangle lenses

[wispy slate]

real

[narrow bloom]

first video: viewfinder "silent" shooting (not really silent )
second video: live view silent shooting (quieter but still not 100% silent)

in each video the first couple shots are the normal modes, then i switch it to silent

[errant fox]

ok so both useless

lmao

[narrow bloom]

the live view silent mode is actually noticeable quieter in person

[errant fox]

idk i think we just keep the switch to say it has the mode avaialble

anyone who needs actual silent shooting will know i think

[narrow bloom]

there's also this mode where it's extremely quiet if you hold down the shutter and when you release the shutter button it releases the shutter to its original position

[narrow bloom]

yea i agree

[minor bough]

Yeah that's what I meant lol

@errant fox do you mind giving me access to add new gear to the Canon stuff?
Between me Shawn and square we should be able to pump out most of the DSLR cameras within a day or so

[dawn bison]

down to help with this btw

only in the sony department obviously but yea

[snow yarrow]

mav is down to bang

[dawn bison]

jordan you should write something

[snow yarrow]

something

[dawn bison]

you typed that

I said write

scammer

[minor bough]

Mav if you add all the specs to the a9iii and it gets approved you can write the review

It won't let you before the data is complete tho

[minor bough]

https://www.sharplyphoto.com/gear/sony-a9-iii

[dawn bison]

thank you

[narrow bloom]

ill write 1dx2 review ong

[tepid nest]

@errant fox need global shutter as an option

[dawn bison]

I just put 0ms readout lol

[dawn bison]

done

[errant fox]

hes insane

759 focus points is crazy

wtf sony doing

[dawn bison]

I had to look that up

never even seen it mentioned as a relevant spec

also this is a solid

get america'd

[minor bough]

Approved feel free to write the review now

Oh nvm you already did one

[tepid nest]

I approved it right after he posted the screenshot :x

[minor bough]

Ah

It was delv that wrote a review not mav

You can write a staff verdict tbh Mav I don't think there's anyone better to write it

[dawn bison]

I don't think I have the time to write something not rushed lol

it's best for someone else to write and I help edit

[errant fox]

the staff verdict is quick

just like 3 sentences and some prompts to answer

[dawn bison]

oh

sure then

[errant fox]

have to visit the page and scroll down to it to edit

https://www.sharplyphoto.com/gear/sony-a9-iii#staff-verdict

[tepid nest]

I don't see that

[errant fox]

o

[dawn bison]

site is awesome btw the discord account integration and all that

very nice

[errant fox]

that's the easy part haha

maybe its admin only

that whole feature is WIP

just skip for now if you want

[tepid nest]

also need a way to manage the Lens Mount field when it's a fixed lens

[errant fox]

yeah that's going to have to be a whole different item type i think

actually you're a genius

later though

[narrow bloom]

just have it as N/A or have it as "Fixed" or "Non-Removable" no?

[tepid nest]

I just chose G for the 100RF and L for Q3 for now

[errant fox]

then we can just add a free text field for the specs of the lens maybe, or a couple basics

todo tomorrow:

• shutter speed > decimal
• fixed lens option for mount + text field for fixed lens details

[versed fjord]

minor nitpick but in the spec sheet readout is just listed as a number with no form of time measurement

so no MS on the end

and Zfc and Zf do have spaces technically if that really matters
nikon is a bit stupid with it like sony
Z6III Z5II Z50II dont have spaces
but Z 8, Z 9, Z fc, Z f, etc all do for some reason

doubt it really matters unless model number shit

[tepid nest]

shhhhhhhhhhhh was trying to not draw attention to that

[versed fjord]

[tepid nest]

Z 9 just looks fucking stupid

[versed fjord]

its not worth the hassle

especially when they dont even know which ones need it

Z6III but Z 6II is stupid

[tepid nest]

I don't mind the spaces on the sub models or whatever

[versed fjord]

i just thought Zfc looked a little silly for some reason so checked

[tepid nest]

Z6 III looks better than Z6IIII imo

[versed fjord]

yeah but spacing the Z and model is funny

[tepid nest]

but a space after the Z sucks

[versed fjord]

i was mostly just checking the Zfc wasnt ZFC instead

and noticed it

lets see if canon does it

nope they keep it normal :/

EOS Rxxx Mark II

[versed fjord]

@errant fox i accidentally solved the xqd cf card cams problem lol

there actually is a model number significance

[errant fox]

Interesting

But unfortunately dats doesn’t allow for identical names

Still better as a note I think

[versed fjord]

at least theres something to differentiate them whatsoever

[tepid nest]

there is, the card slot 😮

/s

[errant fox]

this also doesn't match the model number format in the manuals though

[versed fjord]

really?

[errant fox]

i mean we could make different items D5-a and D5-b if we want

[tepid nest]

I really think just a note or something is sufficient

just my opinion of course

[versed fjord]

yeah would be simplest
just something on there saying "This camera can be purchased in two variants, one being two XQD or CFexpress Type B slots and the other being two CFast slots"

[errant fox]

also btw mpb has a space for all the nikon z ones before the roam numerals

not sure why

i wonder if there's a reason or they just got it wrong

[versed fjord]

looks nicer probably

also probably what people search most

i doubt anyone searches Z 6III

[errant fox]

and ken rockwell

it's all over the place lol

[tepid nest]

yup it sucks

too bad I can't make a poll 😄

wait can I

nope I cannot

[versed fjord]

we just gotta choose one and stick to it

[errant fox]

we're gonna go with nikons

[versed fjord]

really?

Z 6III?

[tepid nest]

oh god

[versed fjord]

and Z50II

Z5II

but Z6 II

[errant fox]

where u seeing this space?

[tepid nest]

ok as long as there is no space after the Z

[versed fjord]

ill sc rq

[errant fox]

nah that's fucking dumb

😂

[versed fjord]

yeah its stupid lmao

[errant fox]

see if you can find them reference it in a news post or something

see how it is there

[versed fjord]

especially with this contradicting it

[tepid nest]

but then

[errant fox]

ok yes

that's the one

[jagged epoch]

I got a ton of free time today so canon dslr spec sheet will continue

[minor bough]

I'm about to get home, you can directly add them to the website if you'd like
I'm just adding all the Canon mirrorless first and then I'm going to go through your sheet and add all of the dslrs that are there

[minor bough]

the text is not visible in dark mode fyi

[narrow bloom]

@errant fox can you give my account admin? i'm going to start adding ef lenses if possible

[jagged epoch]

@errant fox can you also give me admin? I'll start adding anything that isn't there

[minor bough]

me when i add 100 items and its still not enough for square and shawn

[narrow bloom]

@errant fox lens magnification shows up as 0

i typed in the correct magnification in the text box, but when i submitted the edit it changed to 0

i think floh is sleeping

[jagged epoch]

well yes you haven't added the 1987 lenses

[minor bough]

how about you finish the 50 things i added before you complain

[jagged epoch]

[crystal coyote]

Are editing suggestions already being reviewed by you guys or does it only make sense to edit as a mod currently?

[narrow bloom]

they're actively being reviewed right now

you can contribute

i wanna write 1dx2 review

[narrow bloom]

is iso native or expanded?

max selectable is 102400, 1dx2 native is 51200, expanded max is 409600

also not sure if this has been mentioned or not, but what do we do about variable max fps values

[versed fjord]

native

afaik

[versed fjord]

variable?

[narrow bloom]

cameras like d5 or 1dx 1/2/3

different fps in vf and live view

[versed fjord]

ah

hmm

id probably go max in vf

as thats the most relevant

but id ask floh

[narrow bloom]

max vf most relevant imo too yea

i also feel like it would be nice if it said cfast 1.0/1.1 and 2.0 instead of sata ii and iii because those are more widely used

and what about older compatible batteries that limit functionality (continuous shooting speed)

[minor bough]

I'm actively reviewing them for a few more hours but there's basically always someone up

[minor bough]

I've also being doing battery life off ovf and evf so yeah

Ignore I think

I think I'm wrong

[errant fox]

has anyone found how to easily search the CIPA battery life data on a camera?

[minor bough]

not really, but chat gpt can get it right 99 percent of the time

otherwiose camera compare does it when comparing cameras

[jagged epoch]

@errant fox could I have admin some time? I feel like a lot is still missing and it would go faster with more people

if you need any info i’ll get it to you in like 8 hours i’m going sneeps

[errant fox]

im not giving it to everyone guys

only like 2 people have admin rn

it's just not needed

same for editor

if you need things created just send list

once site is really launched need for editors and admins will be much less

so don't want to add to many rn

maybe i can make a private page for creating items for people in this chat

[snow yarrow]

was this brought up before

but i cant actually type the year

[errant fox]

i feel like i woulda noticed this

let me check it out

[snow yarrow]

i can use the calender fine

just cant type the year

[errant fox]

oh whacky

ok ill fix

[snow yarrow]

all good

[narrow bloom]

yeah, when i type "2012" it goes to "1912"

[errant fox]

the app is just an old soul

[narrow bloom]

and when i try to edit something after i submit a suggestion, the whole site bugs out and doesnt open up the edit menu

had to refresh

[errant fox]

ill check, you're not supposed to be able to do that though

either way

it should show "you already have a change request pendign for this item" or similar

[narrow bloom]

it happened when i tried to suggest an edit for something that was already approved

and suddenly it works now that i tried it just now

[errant fox]

maybe it's if you try before refreshing

[narrow bloom]

interesting

[snow yarrow]

this is also a bit difficult

because readout changes depending on photo to video usage

and also depends on the resolution, crop or frame rate

[narrow bloom]

i think we're just doing photo rn, check with floh tho

photo readout

[snow yarrow]

also ISO min and max is native right?

no expanded.

[narrow bloom]

yes native

[narrow bloom]

also @errant fox for batteries, do we only include the battery that provides full compatability? For example LP-E19 is the only battery that provides all the features, the older version for the 1dx 1 do work but they restrict some features since they're lower power or something

same with some canon mirrorless and older LP-E6 variants

lpe6, lpe6n, lpe6nh, lpe6p

[errant fox]

any battery you can plug in and the camera can shoot

but also don't feel the need to be super exhaustive lol

[narrow bloom]

but how do we differentiate which one is the one that supports all functions?

if you use an older battery sometimes some video options arent avilable, as well as reduced continuous shooting speed

[errant fox]

canon is wild

just put them in best to worst order for now

the one it ships with on top

we can enhance somehow later maybe

[narrow bloom]

lmao ok

[snow yarrow]

a7iv only has focus bracketing on firmware 4.0

[narrow bloom]

[errant fox]

so yes

can be added to notes later

i should get notes going

[snow yarrow]

also fastest shutter speed is mech shutter or is this including e-shutter

[errant fox]

yeah i was debating seperating that

just do max total for now

what's the fastest mechanical shutter out there rn?

[narrow bloom]

i know some old 1D CCD cameras have 1/16k mechanical

dont think theres anything higher

[snow yarrow]

1/8000 is most common mech shutter

[narrow bloom]

yea

[snow yarrow]

and how to add images?

not possible yet ?

breh

i cant add more

[narrow bloom]

iirc we still havent gotten responses from the manufacturers for permission

[snow yarrow]

time to add my a7iv review

[narrow bloom]

cool

ima write my 1dx2 review, whether it gets added in here or not 🤷‍♂️

[errant fox]

i limited to 3 for now, maybe not a good idea

[snow yarrow]

all good

[errant fox]

like flagships just excel at everything

but i guess Z9 still best would be Sports Wildlife Weddings

no ones bringing Z9 on travel or product

just try to choose 3 best

[narrow bloom]

1dx2 was great for portrait, wildlife, landscape, events, street, macro, sports, travel

prolly just pick the ones that it's the best at

[errant fox]

yeah, like what you would buy it for if that's all you were shooting

[narrow bloom]

ya

[errant fox]

this will just be for internala use later

not user facing

[narrow bloom]

ah

[snow yarrow]

for the user reviews it could be nice to have like accents

like bold, italics, etc

[errant fox]

true

well

those are meant to be relatively short

i need to add a character limit

if you want to write full reviews, there will also be "editorial" reviews which are posted as articles by vetted writers

those are just meant to be like short user experience reviews from the general publc

[narrow bloom]

how hard would it be to add italics and **bolding **like discord with asterisks?

[errant fox]

that's called markdown, very easy

[narrow bloom]

cool

[errant fox]

well harder now that i already made it without

but still possible lol

[tepid nest]

“How hard can it be” is my favorite dev comment

[snow yarrow]

okay ill make this shorter then

i submitted a review but i dont see it

found it

hurhurhur

[errant fox]

yeah that's way too long haha

the ai summarizer only accepts like 600 characters per review i think

[narrow bloom]

color depth is 24.5 bits? doesn't sound right

i cant find any other info on it either somehow, will continue searching

[errant fox]

color depth?

[narrow bloom]

yeah

[errant fox]

is it not 10/12/14 bit?

[narrow bloom]

pretty sure yeah, i think even the hasselblads have only 14/16

[errant fox]

this looks like AI replaced color depth with megapixels

[narrow bloom]

24.5 doesnt sound right

im checking dpreview rn

hmm it doesnt say

also what's the difference between single point and 1 point af lol

[errant fox]

i forget

just pick what the camera calls it if possible

i think 1 point is canon version of pinpoint?

[narrow bloom]

does this sound okay for the r8? it has spot af (small point), single point (bigger than spot), then 3 customizable af zones, and full auto point

spot af is canon's small point

[errant fox]

oh

probably just on other cameras then, or a mistke by me

[errant fox]

im not sure i dont know canon well

[narrow bloom]

hmm ok i'll leave it like that for now then

[errant fox]

yup just send it

if it's wrong someone can correct later

[narrow bloom]

also is electronic VR for photo and video or just one of them

r8 has electronic vr in video mode only

is that a yes or no?

[snow yarrow]

Yes

[narrow bloom]

ok

why are cipa ratings all over the place

is there an official website?

[errant fox]

there is but i couldnt find how to look up specific gear

[narrow bloom]

send pls

ill figure it out

[errant fox]

https://www.cipa.jp/e/index.html

you know it's gonna be bad when they have index.html 💀

[narrow bloom]

aw hell nah

i cant even find it

the battery life list

what the fart

[errant fox]

works for me

skill issue i guess

[narrow bloom]

lmao what

[errant fox]

Some fixes rolling out

• fixed lens option added to mounts ( @tepid nest )
• changed fps to support decimals (ie. 6.5 fps @minor bough )
• labeled ISO inputs to indicate Native ISO
• fixed year on date input ( @snow yarrow )
• fixed dark mode display of tooltips on user profile badges ( #1420462464121831517 message)

killing it guys

[narrow bloom]

why's the focal length 377mm

99.5% sure i typed in 400mm

also, no field for expanded iso?

[errant fox]

will add

but the problem is they have non-standard names

rather than just being numbers

or we coudl jsut show the underlying numbers

i need to understand what expanded ISO really means

like do we care

it sounds kinda useless from what i just learned

it's just digital exposure

it's like only useful for JPG maybe

[narrow bloom]

i know it's just digital boosting/pulling, but i feel like it might be nice to know what bodies can go to 50 or 64 iso, i dont think the higher expanded isos matter too much but it'll be nice to have

[errant fox]

lower is also just digital underexposing

doesn't help image quality at all

same noise as ISO 100

[narrow bloom]

hmm

[errant fox]

we can add it either way i guess

i wish manufactuerers would just stop

[narrow bloom]

same lol

[minor bough]

lol I added like 70 canon lenses

[narrow bloom]

im filling them out

only the good ones first cuz u can have the 75-300 and 28-90 and that shit

[minor bough]

oh hell nah

[narrow bloom]

yw

finally done with the fuckass rp

[narrow bloom]

@errant fox still broken lmao

[errant fox]

which item

[narrow bloom]

ef 85 1.2 ii

https://www.sharplyphoto.com/gear/canon-ef-85mm-f-1-2l-ii-usm

it's 0.11x

[errant fox]

ok it didn't get applied right

ill look

[errant fox]

fix for magnification not saving is deploying + fixed that field on the 85

[narrow bloom]

fix for weird dates also up yet or nah?

[errant fox]

yes

[narrow bloom]

fire

[tepid nest]

Four more work days and this contract is done then I’ll have time to contribute

[snow yarrow]

are we adding all lenses

or only good lenses?

@errant fox

[errant fox]

all everything

ever

forever

[snow yarrow]

okay no problem

[errant fox]

"Does sharply have ..."

https://tenor.com/view/sentinel-prime-transformers-one-transformers-homelander-shut-up-gif-9304908454969286189

[snow yarrow]

understoodf

[snow yarrow]

teleconverters?

[errant fox]

Eventually

Need to decide how

[snow yarrow]

who's added all the canon gear

[wispy slate]

ok so it’s not just me 😭

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-wipe-gif-16574265568803907770

I thought I was just having a major skill issue 😭😭

[versed fjord]

does sharply have a tesla parking camera

will it go this deep

[snow yarrow]

iphone 6s camera

man i fucking love zeiss lenses

[errant fox]

is it actually the iPhone lens lmao

That’s kinda goated no way other sites have that

[snow yarrow]

oh no

thats just a lens for sony

[errant fox]

Oh I see

That was about Tesla

[errant fox]

But yes if we could do that that would be so funny

[snow yarrow]

if you imagine these rectangles separate

[errant fox]

Because they definitely have names internally

So just need a spy

Tesla camera lens and iPhone lenses lmao

[narrow bloom]

me, lexi, square

[snow yarrow]

cool

[narrow bloom]

i've added a lot of the actual specs themselves

[snow yarrow]

yeah i realised you have to click into each lens

and add more details

💀

this is so much work lol

[narrow bloom]

also i cant find the exact release date for 1dx2 no matter how hard i try

[snow yarrow]

also do the links here actually matter

[narrow bloom]

i think it was like april 2014 but i cant seem to find a day

[snow yarrow]

because it doesnt appear when you click the link

or i mean click onto the lens

[narrow bloom]

i would assume so

[narrow bloom]

yes it does?

[snow yarrow]

oh but you have to fill out the info before it appears right

[narrow bloom]

yup

https://www.sharplyphoto.com/gear/canon-ef-85mm-f-1-2l-ii-usm 85 1.2 ii is completed, fully functional

[snow yarrow]

ah i see

[narrow bloom]

sub 900 on ebay, $1999 on amazon

[errant fox]

I wanted to add eBay link as well but eBay doesn’t really work like that sadly

Unless im missing something

[narrow bloom]

??

pretty sure it's possible

[errant fox]

Lmk

[narrow bloom]

https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_nkw=canon+ef+85mm+f1.2+ii

[snow yarrow]

it just looks goofy tbf

[narrow bloom]

that front element

[errant fox]

That’s just a prefilled search

But j guess it could be fine

[narrow bloom]

is that not what you wanted?

[errant fox]

No like mpb has actual item ids

Page for the item itself

[narrow bloom]

oh yeah

[errant fox]

eBay is just ss if you want on the site and typed it in the search

Maybe it’s fine

[narrow bloom]

well the prefilled search is basically that for ebay lol

[snow yarrow]

the thing is, i dont like amazon either

because the lenses can be sold by 3rd parties

and half of sony is sold by third party

or like adorama

it would mean constantly updating links

[errant fox]

I think like Nikon and canon are pretty safe for that

The rest just exclude maybe

Maybe no good

[snow yarrow]

im just adding the first links i see anyways for amazon

some of them sold by amazon, some by third party, some renewed.

[errant fox]

Hm

[minor bough]

Me lmao

[errant fox]

If it’s not sold by Amazon I would just do a search link or leave blank

[snow yarrow]

also

floh you would probably want to apply for like amazon affiliate.

[minor bough]

I'm just gonna keep adding all the Canon lenses on EF mount ever, then slowly we can fill them out

[snow yarrow]

these lenses could benefit from affiliate purchases if someone clicks it lol

if thats the point of the links

if the point is just to show the end-user it exists.... just do the manufacturer link

[errant fox]

Yes doing Amazon and mpb

Gotta pay for server somehow

[narrow bloom]

u focus on adding everything first

ill keep adding the specs and after ur done adding, u work on the specs too

[snow yarrow]

thats every sony lens added

ill do tamron and sigma some time idfk

added a few tamron, will finish later.

[narrow bloom]

yum

[errant fox]

Every or every one you added to your sheets?

[snow yarrow]

Every Sony branded lens

Yes

[errant fox]

Btw, we should make like a badge “staff recommended (good value)” for lenses on your sheets

[snow yarrow]

Including the shit ones

[errant fox]

Lmao

[snow yarrow]

Yeah sounds good

I’m sleep

Sleep mode

[minor bough]

Easy

Only got like 25 years left

[narrow bloom]

well ur only doing the names for now so shouldnt take long

[dawn bison]

if you want this to be a curated library I wouldn't include it tbh

truly useless spec

[errant fox]

me when no 35-150

[snow yarrow]

Oop

[snow yarrow]

https://www.sharplyphoto.com/gear/tamron-28-300mm-f-4-7-1

can you delete this one for me

i messed up

[errant fox]

What’s messed up

[snow yarrow]

i forgot to put the lens bits after the title

"Di III VC VXD"

[errant fox]

I’ll add it

[snow yarrow]

and you cant edit the title afterwards

thank you

[errant fox]

yeah i have to do it because it requires a couple different technical changes

later i can make a tool for it

lots of work for small thing hto

[snow yarrow]

ah oke

[errant fox]

so what's the full naem?

in order?

Tamron 28-300mm f/4-7.1 Di III VC VXD

[snow yarrow]

Tamron 28-300mm f/4-7.1 Di III VC VXD

yeah

[errant fox]

lowercase Di right

[snow yarrow]

"Di"

Di

[errant fox]

fixed

[snow yarrow]

thank you pookie

[errant fox]

link won't work anymore

new slug tamron-28-300mm-f-4-7-1-di-iii-vc-vxd

https://sharplyphoto.com/gear/tamron-28-300mm-f-4-7-1-di-iii-vc-vxd

[snow yarrow]

thank you

ill make sure to double check next time

[errant fox]

all good

also i just realized we don't support lenses that are on multiple mounts

[narrow bloom]

hmm

[snow yarrow]

so like tamron 35-150 for example

cant be added twice

[errant fox]

ill find a solution

[errant fox]

rename button will be added soon

working on multiple mount snow

[snow yarrow]

Bro is flying

[errant fox]

• Gear rename button added to gear page (pencil next to name) and to the admin/gear table
• Added support for multiple mounts on lenses

[snow yarrow]

was this fixed?

[errant fox]

Yes

Should be

[snow yarrow]

not for me

[errant fox]

Bruhhh

[snow yarrow]

ah i see

its fixed but you have to type it differently

like if i start typing from "DD"

it is broke

[errant fox]

Can you record

[snow yarrow]

uhhh

[errant fox]

I’ll take another look at it either way

[errant fox]

Weird

What date are you trying to type

[snow yarrow]

10/06/2021

this is a bit odd for telephoto lenses

[errant fox]

Oh btw it’s MM DD YYYY

[snow yarrow]

wtf

why

are you sure?

[errant fox]

Oh

[snow yarrow]

please dont do MM DD YY

[errant fox]

Well anyway, I’m gonna change to YYYY MM DD so its universal

[snow yarrow]

okay sure

thats fine

[errant fox]

Focus distance not focal length

[snow yarrow]

thats is MFD

of Tamron 150-500mm

see

this is a silly measurement

tamron 150-500mm can focus 0.6m at mfd

[errant fox]

Change unit?

[snow yarrow]

yes

[errant fox]

Ok

[snow yarrow]

not even change unit, just make it variable

like you can select your own units

but in metric

mm/cm/m

maybe just mm/cm

[errant fox]

Yeah that’s a huge pain

Remember this is just the input

[snow yarrow]

[errant fox]

Display on the page can be converted to whatever

So whatever is most common we should use for input

[snow yarrow]

probably in cm then?

[errant fox]

This is how we’re displaying now

[errant fox]

2500mm lol

[snow yarrow]

oh i see

[errant fox]

It’s kinda annoying no matter which way

But if cm is best

[snow yarrow]

could be an odd one

[crystal coyote]

I'm guessing only mods can write staff verdicts?

[errant fox]

Admin only atm

It’s meant to be discussed in advance

Only for important/relevant/new items as needed

New releases, hall of fame

[crystal coyote]

Oh I thought it would be useful for even old lenses to pick out the best in its class

idk like Nikon af-s 17-55mm F2.8 as the best F2.8 standard zoom on F mount aps-c

or Tamron G2 24-70mm F2.8 as the best F2.8 standard zoom on F mount FF

etc

[errant fox]

yes exactly

"hall of fame"

consistently recommendable despite age and compeitition counts

[crystal coyote]

ah ok

[errant fox]

@snow yarrow date fixed for real, same with the focus distance is now cm and shows a preview of the display

[errant fox]

• Improved search/filter on the admin/gear page (won't only include the current page if anyoen noticed that bug)

[wispy slate]

even though it sucks balls

[snow yarrow]

thank you :)

[narrow bloom]

ef 24-70 f4 better

[minor bough]

Real

[tepid nest]

Who are the admins? Just you?

[errant fox]

And Seth and Mav

Seth hasn’t even seen the invite

Basically just chose randomly lmao

Admins not needed right now really

[snow yarrow]

Do I have the editor role?

[limber delta]

is the admin dashboard not really admin

[minor bough]

guess not lol

maybe like jordan said we're some form of editors just there to approve stuff

[tepid nest]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-crazy-cat-keyboard-cat-fast-gif-5753018

[narrow bloom]

video of lexi inputting every single fucking ef lens in existence

[errant fox]

Yes

[errant fox]

Admins have extea pages on the dashboard but right now basically the same as editors

[narrow bloom]

floh this auto-conversion preview is very nice, appreciate it

[errant fox]

thanks to @snow yarrow for sparking the idea

[snow yarrow]

[narrow bloom]

also lenses and cameras will eventually be separated right?

having them all just mixed on one page feels a bit funky

maybe have them on one page, but separate them and have cameras organized at the top and lenses at the bottom or something?

[errant fox]

yeah i'm trying to think of how these pages could actually be useful

like what is even the goal of someone who is on this page?

[narrow bloom]

looking to compare cameras?

[errant fox]

90% of the time people will just search the gear theyre looking for

[narrow bloom]

or comparing lenses and stuff in general

[narrow bloom]

true but it would be weird not to have a page with everything on it

[errant fox]

well yeah we have a compare tool, but again you can just add things with the search bar

[narrow bloom]

just make it a catalog of items lowk

for people to see

maybe ordered in chronological order?

[errant fox]

well yeah but that's what it is now

[narrow bloom]

at least organize it somewhat

[errant fox]

currently it's ordered by added time rather than release date which would be a good change

[narrow bloom]

yeah that sounds great

maybe add a search function that sorts by category too?

[errant fox]

we already have a global search tho

[narrow bloom]

no like, searching by category like wide angle, standard, tele, prime, zoom etc

[errant fox]

do you mean filtering

like seeing a list of all wide angle zooms

[narrow bloom]

yes that lol

[narrow bloom]

what do we do about this

[errant fox]

Hmmm

Do you have announced date?

If you can only find one of the two just use it for both, if neither then… look harder

Like I’m sure they had press releases in 2001

Worst case just leave it blank

Or maybe we use December 1 2001?

[narrow bloom]

thos good enough?

dpreview

[errant fox]

Nah that’s just prototype

[narrow bloom]

hmm

still talks about just the prototype

[errant fox]

I could make an “exact date unknown” checkbox or something

[narrow bloom]

yeah that sounds good

[errant fox]

You can’t enter 00 for day right

[narrow bloom]

lemme try

yeah i cant

[errant fox]

Okay yea I have a good idea for handling this

Will make a way to specify the precision of the date, so we if we dont know day but we know month and year precision would be month

Then we can just enter 01 for the day or anything and just hide it from UI

[narrow bloom]

oh yeah

[errant fox]

Or can it just be a checkbox to hide the date? I think we should like 99.9% be able to choose a year and month lol

[narrow bloom]

have a checkbox to hide the day lowk

since i feel like we can at least get year and month for everything

[narrow bloom]

@minor bough i thought you added all the old lenses so far where tf is the 17-35 smh my head

[minor bough]

Later

There's zero chance you've caught up

[errant fox]

@narrow bloom done

will be merged in soon

input looks like this

[narrow bloom]

oh very cool

[narrow bloom]

how frequently are we updating the prices on these

[jagged epoch]

We should schedule periodic data checks for all items

[minor bough]

maybe 4 times a year, gives us every 3 months

they shouldnt need updating too often

[narrow bloom]

sí

[errant fox]

Don’t really need to schedule it, if someone notices it’s wrong we change it

[errant fox]

With used gear the worst case scenario is pretty much that the actual prices are lower than what we said

since they almost always decrease over time

[errant fox]

The more I'm thinking about how to structure the editorial reviews the more I wonder if people even give a shit

Like i never actually read the reviews, I just use them to find niche little features or issues mentioned, or look at them for the specs included

What do people actually want from reviews if we already have all the specs laid out?

Like if we had specs + sample images?

[snow yarrow]

Nobody really reads reviews

I think just a blatant “recommended or not” but based on nuances

Maybe like a genre slider with rating

Like z6iii:
landscapes: 5/10
sports: 8/10
video: 8/10

[errant fox]

yeah that's a good idea

maybe they should justt be short and sweet

• summary
• what are some good things you learned while testing
• what are some bad things you learned while testing
• your experience + do you recommend this and to who
• sliders for each use case (combined into an overall star review)

[snow yarrow]

D7100:
landscape: 3.5/10
sports: 5.5/10
video: 0.5/10

Etc

[versed fjord]

would be weird updating over time though

[narrow bloom]

true, it's not like cameras actively get worse over time

it's just our expectations and standards increasing

[versed fjord]

yeah like something being a 9/10 on release in a year or two probably wont uphold that

also just kinda makes 10/10s unobtainable

[errant fox]

we would not update it over time

these reviews would just be linked on the gear page

so you would go to

sharplyphoto.com/gear/nikon-z-6-iii

then it would be
[reviews for the item as cards (shows a summary, click to read the full article)]
[specs table]
[ratings for each genre (based on the reviews)]
[staff verdict]
[user reviews]

[errant fox]

Guys they literally have a download button in the Zr press release for the images

there's just no way they would care

[tepid nest]

That’s what they are for

[errant fox]

bit of a leaderboard here

[wispy slate]

gah damn lexi cooking

[crystal coyote]

Leo > Delv 💪💪💪

[narrow bloom]

damn i gotta lock the fuck in

[crystal coyote]

We should all be more like Stuart C

[tepid nest]

quality over quantity

[versed fjord]

delv must be a master craftsman

[tepid nest]

Is there a field for LCD and EVF resolutions?

or even size

[errant fox]

no will add

[tepid nest]

I also still see UHS-Ii instead of UHS-II

[errant fox]

oh yeah

[tepid nest]

I can't seem to change the GFX100RF mount from G to Fixed

I will shut up now

Overall it's looking reall nice. The website is great and everyone has been killing it with the data.

[errant fox]

keep exposing the 🐛

[errant fox]

what happens or doesn't happen?

[versed fjord]

lmao this is how i felt after my first hour dropping about 10 different bugs 😭

[tepid nest]

I go into edit and select Fixed in the drop down menu and the drop down list goes away but the mount field never changes even after hitting save/continue.

[errant fox]

working on this UI for review ratings

Z6II btw looool

[narrow bloom]

very cool

[woeful python]

I think staff verdict should be placed above specs, it's probably the most important part if you quickly want info about the product

[errant fox]

hmmm

maybe

can reconsider another time

once things are developed

currently i have the written review at the top, then specs, then staff verdict, thne user reviews

maybe can switch the editorial review and the staff verdict

[woeful python]

what's the written review

can't find any product with it 😅

[errant fox]

only Z6ii has one right now

just filler content

[woeful python]

I would just love to have this info being the first thing you see

good sum up of the camera

[errant fox]

yeah that's probably a good idea honestly

ill come back to that, need to redesign that section too

[woeful python]

btw awesome work on the site, just found this thread

[errant fox]

ty!

[errant fox]

damn yo that's crazy that a $5k camera is fixed lens

oh this one lmao

fucking whack

fix for the mount issue going in right now

[tepid nest]

lol

[tepid nest]

The lens mount change isn't reflected on the main gear page. It is when I click edit though.

Also need ISO 80 in the drop down or allow typed in numbers maybe

[errant fox]

i'll add it

[errant fox]

this one is wild, not sure about that will look

[tepid nest]

Maybe in the edit page you can tint or give a subtle highlight to fields that don't have anything in them yet just for ease of browsing for the editor?

[minor bough]

thanks

[errant fox]

This is fixed for real now sorry

Mounts are unreasonably complex

[tepid nest]

no reason to be sorry you're kicking ass

[errant fox]

That broke when I had to add ability for lenses to have multiple mounts

[tepid nest]

how about filter thread sizes 😄

[errant fox]

Yes I need to redesign that whole flow

Thinking of giving an option to just show missing fields on the chart so you can just edit individual fields.

And going to add categories and highlighting to the edit form

[errant fox]

Available

Might need to choose what type of filter it accepts first

[tepid nest]

oh maybe it's not available because body was selected technically

[errant fox]

Oh…

Yeah

[tepid nest]

fixed lens shit throws a wrench in stuff

[errant fox]

Should we add a matching lens entry? Or just add fixedLensThreadSize to cameras

[tepid nest]

I kinda think we should be able to add all the lens stuff to them since we have the data

[errant fox]

Just need to decide if I want lens specs in camera table or deal with linking separate fixed camera and lens items lmao

[tepid nest]

yeah

[errant fox]

Both are shit

The one doesn’t really have a name though, so it would be pretty hard to make a separate entry

[tepid nest]

If you select fixed lens in the mount field it should give you lens fields.

I don't know how to manage it on your end in backend though

https://tenor.com/view/sympathy-sad-condolencde-deepest-symapthy-deepest-symapthy-and-prayers-gif-11953933

[errant fox]

What is the extent of the specs for the fixed lens just focal length and apertures and the thread size? not gonna put every single lens feature

[tepid nest]

- **lensType**: prime
- **focalLengthMm**: 35.00
- **apertureMin**: 22.0
- **apertureMax**: 4.0
- **angleOfViewDegrees**: 63.00
- **minimumFocusDistanceMm**: 200.00
- **maximumMagnification**: 0.10
- **lensElements**: 10
- **lensGroups**: 8
- **specialElements**: ["aspherical", "aspherical"]
- **coatingType**: nano_gi
- **hasAutofocus**: true
- **focusMotorType**: linear
- **hasManualFocusOverride**: true
- **hasFocusLimiter**: false
- **hasImageStabilization**: false
- **stabilizationStops**: 0.0
- **apertureBlades**: 9
- **apertureShape**: circular
- **hasManualApertureRing**: false
- **hasBuiltInNdFilter**: true
- **ndFilterStops**: 4
- **filterThreadDiameterMm**: 49.0
- **hasWeatherSealing**: true
- **hasTripodCollar**: false
- **hasLensHood**: true
- **hasLensCase**: false```

This is all that I've gathered we probably just need focal length, min/max aperture, mfd, ndfilter(maybe not), thread diameter, weathersealing(?)

[minor bough]

ND filter is such a minor thing, would be better for notes imo
Same with like built in TCS

Majority of lenses don't have it so it's just easier to not add it

[errant fox]

Shouldn’t fixed lens always be weather sealed

[tepid nest]

yeah I don't disagree but they are pretty major features to hide also

nah

shit this one isn't even weather sealed unless you put on the filter

[errant fox]

Things that 1/500 gear items have can just be notes on those items

[tepid nest]

like the TCs on the Nikon teles is one of the major selling points even

[errant fox]

Yeah that i included

Rare but not because obscure, because expensive

[errant fox]

@tepid nest

should be good to go

pushing shortly

[tepid nest]

nice that'll work

[errant fox]

is pushed

[tepid nest]

filled it out 🙂

[errant fox]

just added notes field as well

[minor bough]

must stay on top of leaderboard

[errant fox]

about to add "camera type"
not sure how i forgot this lol

[minor bough]

lmao

google is throttling me because it thinks im a robot lmao

[errant fox]

what lol

[minor bough]

cause im opening links and copy pasting the names of the lenses

from the canon museum cause its quickest way to add them

also means i dont make spelling errors

[errant fox]

updated to value specs over creation

[minor bough]

im still winning ill take it

[jagged epoch]

peeps z6iii pic should be fixed

[errant fox]

ya

[shy solar]

where are images sourced from?

[minor bough]

i think nikons website

[errant fox]

im just grabbing from nikon press release

they include them with a download button sooooo

[minor bough]

i was thinking it was fine if the canon ones are the same style as the z6iii for example as long as theyre the same for all the cameras

[errant fox]

yeah also easiest for people to take on their own

dont have to worry about getting angle correct

just the correct focal length and lighting

[minor bough]

one setup in one guys house and we all send gear to them

[jagged epoch]

i need someone to check on zr

we need to add the option for microsd too

[errant fox]

ah rip

[jagged epoch]

also what is the cfeb bus lel

[errant fox]

just added deploying now

[errant fox]

wym

[jagged epoch]

do you have to pick the media bus or is it optional

[errant fox]

optional

[jagged epoch]

alr approve my edit and i’ll add it

[minor bough]

approved

[jagged epoch]

Alr battery added

Card******

minor, but readout speed should be followed by ms in the page

[narrow bloom]

@errant fox "weight with battery" in lens input field

should be just weight i think

and i couldnt find mpb value but i found this

[jagged epoch]

50 stm submitted

[jagged epoch]

There's probably not enough of them to be in mpb lol

55-250 stm submitted

70-200/2.8 iii submitted

I'll do more later gotta go to class

[jagged epoch]

70-200/4 submitted

[narrow bloom]

good boy

[narrow bloom]

why does this change? it's supposed to be 1200

[errant fox]

what kind of fuck ass units is this nikon

why not just 2.1 million dots?

[errant fox]

when does it change?

[narrow bloom]

after i submit it

[errant fox]

ok i look

which item

[errant fox]

it worked for me idk

[narrow bloom]

the fuck lmao