Motorsports/Car Chat

[tiny venture]

I'll see what I can do with some of the RAWS

I assume they'll react the same way as my RAWS given its the exact same sensor

[crimson bison]

What's the difference between c raw and raw

[tiny venture]

Just file size

[crimson bison]

@tiny venture the raw pics are super grainy

@tiny venture

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1205473267763253329/1414388683704111194/leading.JPG?ex=68bf639c&is=68be121c&hm=faf36041c557745058a9827b24d837e12afe09b910b455eb420fed7aaf776e1d&

[tiny venture]

Don't use windows file explorer bro

Open them in lightroom

can you send the raw files I'll play with them later

[crimson bison]

yeah

[crimson bison]

yeah i put all the raws in a zip file

and that zip file is 9gb

😭

[tiny venture]

Odd

[crimson bison]

it's like 300 pictures

its gonna be alittle bit of a wait

[fickle scaffold]

VALKKKKKK

[crimson bison]

@tiny venture i am now installing photoshop express

this shit is ass

[crimson bison]

what a suprising outcome

peugeot in 3rd and 4th

[tiny venture]

#50 robbed ✊

[tiny venture]

oh god

I assume it's not done yet

[earnest lark]

yeah i defo agree

its just way out of budget

well i dont do motorsport tho

no tracks even near me

[tiny venture]

either way its better

[earnest lark]

yes

agreed

gonna think if i can pull a couple extra hundreds from somewhere

[earnest lark]

@tiny venture i found out i can get the sigma 18-50 2.8 for only 100€ more than the 30mm 1.8

[tiny venture]

DO IT

[earnest lark]

YES

I WILL

Ima wait till march tho cuz rn i dont have even near enough money but by march i will i think

[tiny venture]

Fair

[earnest lark]

Just realized how dang good it looks on the a6k as well

found the pic from google but yeah

[tiny venture]

It's a nice lens overall

[earnest lark]

ye

thats what ive heard

[fickle scaffold]

go buy that lens

would rec from my photojourn contact

[rich dagger]

Daily I am reminded I shoulda bout apsc

[earnest lark]

as soon as i got the money

[tiny venture]

Yeah stupid bloke bought a 61mp camera and has no lenses

Buying F1 tickets tommorow

That sets the budget for the next few weeks lol

[rich dagger]

Well i’m not that bad, i got a 70-200 gmii

[tiny venture]

That's it tho lol

[crimson bison]

new ferrari testarossa

it looks like a gallardo 296 and cheese wedge had a misformed baby

it is replacing the sf90

[tiny venture]

i like it

i want to see it in person ofc

[crimson bison]

@tiny venture 8 min

i got a photo editor for my raws as well now

[tiny venture]

lightroom my beloved

[crimson bison]

not lightroom

canon digital photo professional

4

[tiny venture]

I GOT F1 TICKETS

WOO HOO

[crimson bison]

Congrats

[crimson bison]

@tiny venture have u played with any of the raws yet

i dont like how all of my pics are either not sharp or grainy

[tiny venture]

I'll see what I can do about that

Just have to drop my partner off at an appointment and pick her up so I'll bd like an hour

[rich dagger]

It’s not the worst

[tiny venture]

went through a few of the nicer ones

[tiny venture]

some of these were damn near unrecoverable

some interesting photos

im keen to see where you can take this if you have an idea of what you want to shoot next time you go out

ok im done for the night

if you go out with an idea in mind, with a plan of what you what to achieve, youll take more good photos and less of the same old

but genuinely just go take more motorsport photos these are interesting, youll learn how to be more unique and take more keepers with practise bro

[rich dagger]

No pans?

Oh

Not your pics

[lean cliff]

https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/verstappen-to-make-long-awaited-nordschleife-race-debut-this-weekend-/10757959/

[cold mason]

NICE

[thorny sun]

Man v8 thunder cars are so cool

[tiny venture]

Yeah was editing qirtus

I don't have a race lined up until the end of the year 😔💔

Final exams type shitb

[crimson bison]

is this a compliment or a insult

[tiny venture]

Compliment
Some of them were a bit noisy but relatively recoverable
If it wasn't raining the noise would be fine but the ai denoise interacts with rain a bit weird l9l

[earnest lark]

same

[earnest lark]

i hate their grilles

looks so ugly

[thorny sun]

I think its a sticker

The lights are stickers too

[earnest lark]

yh

thats why i hate them

[thorny sun]

They are still cool

[thorny sun]

@scenic canyon yo you ever been to motikon in uppsala?

[scenic canyon]

naw i was gonna go to their event but it was like at 10am and i live in stockholm so its very painful for me

[thorny sun]

I meant their dealership

Or hq

Im going there in october i think

They have the bugatti veyron 1/1

[scenic canyon]

naw, i meant to go some time but haven’t yet

[thorny sun]

They got the sl65 amg mercedes recently

[scenic canyon]

not too interested in going seeing dealerships, they have very cool stuff tho

[thorny sun]

I want to see their veyron and sl65 amg

My uncle visits there daily

He lives 10 minutes away

[scenic canyon]

the white one?

[thorny sun]

Yes

Its a 1 of 1

Also the owner of motikon recognized me and my dad at the aurora

Which was nice since we went there once in february

[thorny sun]

Its really cool

My uncles pics

[scenic canyon]

1/1 spec only, still cool tho

[thorny sun]

Yeah my uncle talks with the owner when hes there

[scenic canyon]

1/58 grand sport veyrons

saw it at motikon a yearly event last year

[thorny sun]

He told my uncle to go inside and take a look

But my uncle didnt have time

So he might go tomorrow and take pictures of the veyron

[thorny sun]

Hopefully the sl65 amg is in the main hall

[scenic canyon]

and this year at the aurora concours

[thorny sun]

Oh nice I like the veyron more at the aurora

Its 1/1

In that color grey

[scenic canyon]

it also came to our last carmeet that we had, or the one before that, dunno which

i didn’t go tho

[scenic canyon]

a lot nicer

[thorny sun]

First ever grand sport

Ronnies ccxr is 1 of 2 i think

Its cool

[thorny sun]

I wish I got pictures of the rear

But its fine since ill see another veyron at motikon

Hopefully the owner lets us go to the back and see their "hidden" cars

They had the veyron at the back in february

[scenic canyon]

dope

if u wanna talk im barely here fyi

[thorny sun]

Yeah i want to see the sl65 amg so badly

[scenic canyon]

u can find me in the car community discord tho

[thorny sun]

Its like 1 of 350

[scenic canyon]

they’re dope

[thorny sun]

Hm?

Can you send a link in dms

[scenic canyon]

sure

[thorny sun]

VERY i wish I had vip at the aurora

[scenic canyon]

it was just like 1-2 nice cars for 150 sek not worth but sad that j missed it still

[thorny sun]

I didnt even know how to buy vip💔

[scenic canyon]

lol

[cold mason]

https://youtube.com/shorts/RCtV89D0ARQ?si=V85y4LtNI8lySfoW

[vagrant dew]

I am borrowing a 70-300 for a race but I am only getting it for those few days, and I've had no practice using a zoom lens or panning shots (I only have a 35mm). I am confident that at high shutter speeds I can get decent photos but I'm having a lot of trouble trying to take panning shots even with the 35mm for practice. How can I maximize my time at the race that weekend?

[tiny venture]

Start with high shutter speeds and work your way down

[crimson bison]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9e0py32kaKw

[earnest lark]

Gonna send these here instead of #🖼・photo-sharing since the pictures arent that great but its still an rly cool car

[earnest lark]

also you probably cant tell from many pics but these were shot at like 8pm so it was pretty dark

[tiny venture]

i can tell

[tiny venture]

found some more interesting photos

[crimson bison]

My alternator is going out

[tiny venture]

broke the all times point record with like 5 races to go lol

[crimson bison]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/710083151485206619/1418056594104520796/Moments-clip-from-Sep-17-2025.mp4?ex=68ccbb9e&is=68cb6a1e&hm=2306cabaaeb72d3a9a580e6ff6f93cdab2ecddf15fb887c65aa6e550f2c476e9&

[vagrant dew]

what are the best things to try to get signed at races? I'm thinking of bringing a few hot wheels, although theyre not the actual race cars... any ideas?

[fickle scaffold]

🐐

[earnest lark]

The racing teams cap id sat

say

[earnest lark]

how we feeling. Which one is a better place for a photoshoot

this is the first place with greenery

[tiny venture]

Second place

[earnest lark]

i mean they are like 20 meters apart so if i get a shoot with someone there i might as well ask to move the car to the two different places

[tiny venture]

fair enough

[tiny venture]

CARLOS MY KING BRO

I'm so sad for Oscar tho

I literally walked out of the room and left

[earnest lark]

ye

[crimson bison]

Ferrari is ruining hamilton

He sold his entire car collection for art n shit

[tiny venture]

He's always been like that tho

[rich dagger]

He’s always been a little weird for an f1 driver

[tiny venture]

The guy who designed the Miata died last night... 🫡🫡

[earnest lark]

Yh

i saw

sad stuff

[hushed siren]

he's been that since like 2018 lmao dw not Ferrari's fault

[tiny venture]

OI

FORZA 6

IN JAPAN

LETS GOO

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DPBcGHUDOhZ/?igsh=bXd0bGUwa2dncWd0

forzahorizonofficial

It’s Japan. #ForzaHorizon6

Likes

10071

Instagram

[crimson bison]

LETS FUCKING GOOO

ITS HAPPENING BRO

AAAAH

https://youtu.be/lwlw0ChiSR0?si=VCxnN8fASbefCyi-

[thorny sun]

Sad that it will release on ps5 post launch

Fh5 is like 35 bucks now

But idk if i should get it

[crimson bison]

https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTMNwnr6f/

🙏🙏🙏

[rich dagger]

LFG

[rich dagger]

It’s good

Something weird about it though

There’s like a delay in reactions from the wheel on ps5

[crimson bison]

forza is best with controller

[vagrant dew]

for races yes for experience i prefer wheel and manual h shifter

its so fun

but they need better maps, fh5 was terrible

fh4 was good

[crimson bison]

Fh6 gonna be game of the decade

[vagrant dew]

its a lot of hype right now like every game, it may get worse and worse closer to release

[rich dagger]

Fh4 made lockdown awesome

Lmao i was in class ripping the rs200 in the quarry

[tiny venture]

Fh3 was the best Forza map by far

Not biased at all tho frfr

UnIronically it had the most variety by a long shot

[rich dagger]

Hundred percent

[rich dagger]

Funnily enough the only one i haven’t played before lol

[tiny venture]

Is the one set in Australia bro

Also has like the most goated music

[rich dagger]

Ik

[thorny sun]

Hm

I mean its like tc motorfest

[crimson bison]

I love fh3 bro

Ive played 3 4 and 5

The fh5 map is ass because it was made for the eliminator

Which no one plays

[vagrant dew]

it is better in fh4 anyways in my opinion

[thorny sun]

Im thinking about buying fh5

(On ps5)

[rich dagger]

It’s ok

[lean cliff]

lol Max winning in a Ferrari before Lewis

Hope to see him in an endurance race with a full field of pros soon.

[thorny sun]

Its a hard choice...

Fh6 dont even got a release date

[crimson bison]

2026

[thorny sun]

Month i need the month....

Its a long time sooo

Might get fh5

[rich dagger]

Uh

Fh6 won’t be on ps5 on release

[tiny venture]

Finishing 20 odd seconds ahead in his first race was pretty crazy tho
Mans a machine

[crimson bison]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5MrBvNBpkbU i love haters garage

[tiny venture]

Race day for wec

6 hours of fooj

Ferrari haven't been doing well all weekend, hopefully race pace is good

[rich dagger]

it's ferrari who are we kidding

[tiny venture]

Our wec team is good tho

[rich dagger]

although their wec division knows how to properly run a team

[rich dagger]

i give it a 50/50

on the one hand

aight

on the other hand

[tiny venture]

Bop sorta fucked us

[rich dagger]

they're ferrari

[tiny venture]

Cause we've been so dominant this year

[rich dagger]

eh either way fuji's a fun track

[vagrant dew]

i was about to comment but i got fuji mixed up with suzuka

no me gusta suzuka

[tiny venture]

007 DNF 😔💔

They were doing so damn good

[crimson bison]

i forgot today was wec

[tiny venture]

Still got just over 2 hours left if you wanna join in

[lean cliff]

https://youtube.com/shorts/UeNrtsby8I0?si=Qzu3-8Q0DP0kLCIQ

[earnest lark]

fooj?

[tiny venture]

FUJI

[earnest lark]

Ah

[thorny sun]

I think i bought forza horizon 5

[thorny sun]

I need to see a porsche 962 c

[fickle scaffold]

https://youtu.be/oB7kuN5vDbI?si=_kcPVGOIz-luB--0

[fickle scaffold]

The fucking comeback is real

He is me real

[thorny sun]

Roscoe died😪

[rich dagger]

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DPANjk_Eewd/?igsh=MXZ2dTV6MXNiOTVobA==

Instagram

Uuhhhhhhh

[thorny sun]

He doesnt look 11 to me

Look at his pfp

[lean cliff]

Poor Roscoe rip

[rich dagger]

Yeah he’s 16 it’s engagement bait

[tiny venture]

Will miss Roscoe

[lean cliff]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9GaMD3FhTIQ

[crimson bison]

I saw that the race was jann mardenborough or however you say his names first race back at the nurburgring

And he wouldve placed first if it wasnt for max

[lean cliff]

Yup good race to do it in if max wasn’t there because the pro field at the class was really slim. Good for him glad he was able to return

[tiny venture]

Damn good driver too

The Sim to real world transition is great

[crimson bison]

@tiny venture new toyota lemans hypercar coming soon

[tiny venture]

Yeah saw the post yesterday

Should be fuckig quick

[vagrant dew]

anyone gotten things signed from drivers before? are they willing to sign whatever or no

im thinking of bringing hot wheels or something i dont want to buy so much merch ill never wear or use

[rich dagger]

Buy racing gloves

Actually useful merch

[vagrant dew]

do they sign those? i feel like it would be a lot more than hot wheels or collectable cars

[rich dagger]

Eh

Idj

[tiny venture]

i find they tend to sign merch easier, but if you go up to a driver when theyre just chilling chances are theyll sign anyway

ive got my hat signed by 4 v8 supercars drivers

[earnest lark]

Thats firr

fire

arent v8 supercars those engines with a paperbox on top of them basically

[tiny venture]

nah those are the aussie racing cars

this is an aussie racing car

these are the v8 supercars

[earnest lark]

Oh yeah

[earnest lark]

Oohhhh

those are cool as frick ngl

[tiny venture]

theyre cool ass cars

[earnest lark]

yh

also @tiny venture im pretty sure if you shoot at a wide open aperture through a fence you can kinda get the fence to dissappear idk

thats what ive seen on insta etc

[tiny venture]

Correct

My widest lens is only f4 tho lol

I don't have to shoot through fences most of the time

[earnest lark]

thats cool

[earnest lark]

mine is 1.8

[tiny venture]

50?

[earnest lark]

50mm?

[tiny venture]

Ye

[earnest lark]

its some random lens, im borrowing my moms friends olympus epl8 rn. And i jus use the lens's with it. I have the Sony role cuz im getting a sony so soon and stuff

i hate using the epl8 so much but it is what it is

at least i have a camera to shoot with for now

[tiny venture]

Why don't

Somy

Sony

[earnest lark]

mostly because i know a lot more about the sony line than Canon or nikon for example

[tiny venture]

Dead call

Sony lenses are way more expensive thdn canon and Nikon counterparts

And the bodies are worse value too lol

[earnest lark]

yeah thats true

Wait what the heck

im walking to school rn and a Continental gt azure just went by

[rich dagger]

1.2

I have to shoot at 1/3200 minimum during the day time

[crimson bison]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/940755388243017778/1423438814424072332/Nicholas_Latifi_VS_Lewis_Hamilton__Overtaking_The_Safety_Car.mp4?ex=68e05033&is=68defeb3&hm=f90d622583c0db529fa21988b8bd7e8f0c119a8f3ac384958f641d3295482776&

[crimson bison]

@tiny venture

[tiny venture]

what the fuck am i watching

[crimson bison]

Ollie bird

[rich dagger]

tubg tung thng

[crimson bison]

@tiny venture williams totally disqualified

both cars failed checks on their rear wings

[tiny venture]

Oof

[rich dagger]

Yeah

I saw first thing today

Brutal

[amber vapor]

Wwhat the hell

[lean cliff]

man I can't believe Marc broke his collarbone

one race after winning the championship

[earnest lark]

marc?

[tiny venture]

marquez

[earnest lark]

Ooh

im lowkey annoyed at mclaren

cuz they treat piastri badly and make horrible decision constantly

[rich dagger]

“We will review after the race”

Mmhmm

Dafuq use is that

[earnest lark]

ikr

[earnest lark]

@tiny venture you have any reccomendations of like canon cameras if i decide to get a canon instead of a Sony

like something in the same price range and quality as the a7 Mark 2 basically

[tiny venture]

The a7ii fucking stinks

Get an r10 or so instead

Sony FF didn't get decent until the a7iii and the a7iv and both options are smashed out of the park by the Canon and Nikon counterparts

[crimson bison]

@tiny venture

[rich dagger]

bro

[tiny venture]

I do see these yk lmao

It's just cause it's so expensive

[rich dagger]

You’d really think charging 300 thousand dollars for a normal 911 would cover this

322 thousand aud for a base no options carrera

Like fuck me

[earnest lark]

How the heck

[tiny venture]

It's a horrid camera

It's well behind the competition from canon and Nikon at the time

[earnest lark]

I want reasoning tho

cuz like arguing without knowing what the point of the guy even is is just stupid yk

[tiny venture]

The a7ii was one of the first mirrorless cameras ever, autofocus is stinky, which is super duper vital for motorsport
On top of that, the readout is horrible, leading to the background being slanted. Almost all of the technology in the camera is out of date

Also 117 focus points 😭

That's genuinely nothing

Even the r100 has more

It has almost nothing going for it compared to canon alternatives

Also ask @rich dagger, Sony lenses are ridiculously expensive, and any other brand has way cheaper lenses

[rich dagger]

Tes

[tiny venture]

Half the Sony products you're paying for marketing and overpaying as a result

[rich dagger]

Yes yes tes

The equivalent canon anything is better value

[tiny venture]

For the same price you're getting a used r10

And the r10 is an amazing camera

[earnest lark]

i mean autofocus isnt vital for motorsport tbf because you can just set your focus point on the racing line and thats it

[rich dagger]

@coarse osprey owns one iirc

[rich dagger]

Eh

But how about panning

[tiny venture]

Exactly

It's a bad decision

Don't fall for Sony marketing

[rich dagger]

More accurately

Don’t velieve every camera with a sony logo on it is good

[earnest lark]

yeah

[earnest lark]

yeah

its not like im purely stupid

[tiny venture]

also vehicle autofocus 🤩🤩🤩

[rich dagger]

Ofc if you’re a baller like me the ai autofocus chip on the a7rv also does vehicle af

But in all seriousness

The a7ii is ancient

[coarse osprey]

yes

goofy

[earnest lark]

i mean kinda true since the camera is ten years old but its not like the camera is bad for something

or*

[rich dagger]

Compared to the r10

It is

[earnest lark]

im talking overral

also, what camera you have?

[coarse osprey]

absolutely ass

[rich dagger]

Sony a7rv

[coarse osprey]

sensors ass

color tint because they fuvked shit up

expensive lenses, esp for motorsports

hear the sony bias man

[earnest lark]

aside from the argument i just found something insanely stupid and funny

[earnest lark]

its not even bias im just not getting crap proven to me rn

[tiny venture]

We explained the facts

Also burst rates, pretty vital to motorsport
Take my word as a motorsport photographer it's more useful than you think

[earnest lark]

no but like yall are the first people out of like hundreds ive heard who ever said smth about the camera being bad yk

[rich dagger]

If the people you’ve heard from are influencers

Then disregard lol

Also

[earnest lark]

nah

[rich dagger]

Might not be relating to motorsports photography

[earnest lark]

i was never talking about motorsport in the first place

[tiny venture]

Ok what are you using it for then

[rich dagger]

Yeah what are you shooting then lol

[earnest lark]

car photography

[rich dagger]

Cuz this happens to be motorsport chat

[earnest lark]

i mean its motorsports/car chat

[rich dagger]

huh

[tiny venture]

So the same thing..

[rich dagger]

Well

You mean car shows i assume

Most cameras can do that

[tiny venture]

Canons colour science is way nicer than Sony's

[rich dagger]

It’s not very demanding

[tiny venture]

I've edited both

[earnest lark]

mostly photoshoots of cars

[rich dagger]

Unless the car is in motion

Pretty simple job

[coarse osprey]

tbf

my $60 camera could do it too

[rich dagger]

Yeah

[coarse osprey]

so what else are you using it for

[rich dagger]

Whatever you own rn can handle car photoshoots

[tiny venture]

That's more the lens then, which comes back to the Sony lenses being way worse value

[earnest lark]

Yeah but im borrowing some random camera rn for saving for a camera thats actually my own etc

[tiny venture]

Get an r10/R50 and invest more into lenses, will make a way bigger difference +better cameras in all but like 2 ways

[earnest lark]

so stuff like this

[coarse osprey]

shit could even do a dslr too if the r10 isn't in budget

[tiny venture]

5dsr frfr

[coarse osprey]

Dutch?

[earnest lark]

finnish

[coarse osprey]

Lmao was the same price as the r10 for me

I could have gotten it

[coarse osprey]

Oh

[earnest lark]

dont mind that white bar my insta is actually tweaking out😭

[tiny venture]

I mean it's nice but r10 low-key better

[coarse osprey]

yeah

k don't do studio stuff

Or dedicated landscapes

[rich dagger]

Two different things ig

[tiny venture]

I think you'd be better off with an r10/R50 and better lenses

[earnest lark]

Im planning on shooting motorsport as well but more rarely

[coarse osprey]

Hm

[rich dagger]

Hey i use a 60mp monster for motorsports lol

Pray for my storage

[coarse osprey]

you'd be looking at $600-$700 minimum on sony

[coarse osprey]

💀

[earnest lark]

what lens's you suggest tho

[coarse osprey]

I tried this recently

69mb files dawg

[rich dagger]

I want that lens so bad

[coarse osprey]

Dude the aperture click is so so satisfying

[tiny venture]

24-70 f4 for general use, you don't need the bokeh for car photoshoots
You could pick up a prime like a 35mm prime and get that for bokeh if needed
Bokeh isn't really needed on a car shot

[rich dagger]

Been there done that for really bright primes and cars

Ain’t all that

[tiny venture]

Then a 70-200 for the motorsport side of things, and just general use

[earnest lark]

wait brb

[rich dagger]

Yeah

Part of the reason why i chose the 70-200mk2

[earnest lark]

im bacl

back

[earnest lark]

mostly gonna shoot rally tho so even 50mm is enough

[coarse osprey]

Lol nice

I got a 70 200 cuz it was white long barrel 😋

[tiny venture]

Trust me, 70-200 and 24-70 for rally

You need versatility

[earnest lark]

ill see about trackdays etc since theres a track near me but im not sure do they let ppl just go there with kameras etc

[rich dagger]

The car will only be in range for a 50mm for about 3 milliseconds lol

[earnest lark]

the closest track that has races is 200km from me

[earnest lark]

cameras

[rich dagger]

Shawn lee successor ah

[earnest lark]

give like the full name of the lens so i dont have to guess what u mean

[coarse osprey]

Ehe

[rich dagger]

Like any of them

They really do not make that many lol

[coarse osprey]

24 70 F4 IS

[tiny venture]

Canon EF 24-70 F4 L IS USM

[coarse osprey]

70 200 F4 IS
Budget options

These are for sunny, daylight stuff

[tiny venture]

DONT get the first gen 24-70 f2.8, it's horrid

[tiny venture]

This works but Canon EF 70-200 is ii or Tamron 70-200 G2 if you can afford it

[coarse osprey]

the price dif here is insanity

kinda

f4 IS goes for $400 (how much I bought)

isii is like a grand aaaaa

Spend like $100-$200 more and I can already get a isiii

[tiny venture]

I'm torn if I save up for 2.8 or go for f4

[rich dagger]

2.8 supremacy

[tiny venture]

I'm prolly gonna go G2

[rich dagger]

Don’t fall for the brokie propaganda

But there isn’t really all that much difference

And remember

The f4 is much lighter

[coarse osprey]

Do you even need 2.8

Like the only reason I went for the 2.8 was cuz of the girth

[tiny venture]

Canon R50/R10 + Canon EF 24-70 F4L IS USM + Canon EF 70-200 F4

[tiny venture]

I low-key want to invest once

[coarse osprey]

yeah what I thought too

but fk I missed a couple shots

while trying to save up and save up for the 2.8

[tiny venture]

It's either f4 and just resell it for 2.8 down the line

[earnest lark]

@tiny venture this is the first gen rigy

right

[rich dagger]

Ef lenses have already met the end of their depreciation curve

[coarse osprey]

My 17 55 2.8 is like 50g ish lighter than my 70 200 f4 lmfao

[rich dagger]

So reselling for a 2.8 isn’t a half vad idea

[tiny venture]

Yeah it's not great

The f4 version is way better and just as cheap if not cheaper

You do not need the extra stop trust me, especially if you're shooting in the day

[earnest lark]

ye

[coarse osprey]

F4 has a macro mode too

[earnest lark]

how do i tell what is the first gen and what the newer gen tho

[tiny venture]

If it has II in the name

Also doesn't have that weird thingy at the top

This

it looks alot different

Save money and go for the EF 24-70 F4L IS USM

This beautiful thing

I should take it apart rn

[earnest lark]

alr

I actually cant find anything rn

[tiny venture]

Oof

[earnest lark]

this looks good enough runko means body and thats the r50

?

[tiny venture]

The lens is pretty mid, id just resell it, but if that's around market value for the R50, pretty good deal

Keep in mind for all these EF lenses you need the Canon Adaptor

[earnest lark]

im actually gonna lose it soon atp

[tiny venture]

Just a big hole fr

[earnest lark]

aside from that i somehow noticed we have the same gaming headset😭

[tiny venture]

It's falling apart bro

It's been like 3 years

[earnest lark]

Ah

[tiny venture]

Almost time for a new one

[earnest lark]

im probs gonna look at nikons as well

[tiny venture]

I'm not sure what the Nikon equivalent to the R50/r10 is

[coarse osprey]

Z50

N z50ii

[earnest lark]

@tiny venture @coarse osprey im actually so lost but is the eos rp any good

[coarse osprey]

No

[tiny venture]

Not realllyyy

[coarse osprey]

Slow as fuck

[tiny venture]

Like it works but its old and the readout sucks

[earnest lark]

ooh alr

[coarse osprey]

AF was genuinely on par with my old dslr

it do be a 6dii but still

[tiny venture]

Bro I didn't even realise it's already Bathurst 1000 race week

The driving is already starting like what

[fickle scaffold]

Holy shit

[tiny venture]

what

:(

[earnest lark]

Noooooooooooo

one of my dreams was to get some pics of him in wrc

or well the car

whatever u wanna say

[rich dagger]

Damn

[earnest lark]

It was like even possible because i live in Finland so going to a rally wouldnt even have been that hard but now that he will race in super formula etc i cant do that anymore

[tiny venture]

super formula is so fun

ill go photograph it in a year or so hopefully

[crimson bison]

@tiny venture alonso set a record for most f bombs in a single radio message in history

[rich dagger]

Who owns first then

[rich dagger]

Japan only series that’s rough

Rally to formula is pretty crazy though lol

[thorny sun]

@hushed siren yo you know ring knutstorp?

Doesnt koenigsegg use that track for tests or something

[hushed siren]

Dont think so

They use their own

[thorny sun]

I saw a post with the sadairs spear on the track

A few days ago

They maybe use it sometimes I think

Only thing i know is exotic cars are sometimes there and these newsraces

[hushed siren]

idk man, maybe

[lean cliff]

oh man THOR P2 first podium for Valk

inject it into my fucking veins

[crimson bison]

amazing

[tiny venture]

Plus lambo p4, in their last race

[sweet fjord]

honda is making their own 370z

[crimson bison]

the new prelude sucks

[sweet fjord]

why does that mean it sucks

[crimson bison]

u make a enthusiast car and put in the most soulless drivetrain

fwd hybrid cvt thing

with fake gear shifts

[sweet fjord]

i see

[glad wharf]

Aw hell nah

[crimson bison]

You get it

My minivan makes more hp💔💔💔

[rich dagger]

Uhh

Look, the rest of your complaints are completely warranted

But the prelude was an fwd

This isn’t a departure from form

[crimson bison]

F1 driver news

George and kimi are staying with mercedes for 2026

[crimson bison]

True but with everything else it seems bad

Like

Fwd manual 4 banger😄
Fwd hybrid cvt 😭

[tiny venture]

Red Bull hadjar and Verstappen for sure

I hope linblad gets his promo and they get rid of tsunoda

Lawson needs more time

[rich dagger]

i literally just said ts broooo

[vagrant dew]

has anyone been to the Indy road track? What are the best corners for pictures

[tiny venture]

No clue but try at the end of a straight with a heavy breaking zone so you get overtaking and a straight for panning

[crimson bison]

Yo I don't think you should word it that way man

[tiny venture]

its polmat bro he doesnt care

[rich dagger]

Um

[crimson bison]

@tiny venture im gonna try this

[crimson bison]

It was pretty good

[vagrant dew]

Got some super cool pictures at the Indy 8hr today I’ll share them soon!

[vagrant dew]

Photos from on track coming soon, @tiny venture I used your tips for moving shots and I’m pleased with the results for a first time

[crimson bison]

that c8 shot is amazing

[vagrant dew]

Thanks, I really like how it came out

[tiny venture]

Not too shabby

[vagrant dew]

wait till you see the panning shots 😎

[crimson bison]

I did some panning shots at cota but only like 2 of them were good

@tiny venture I wish I could go to tx2k again but it doesn't line up with my spring break this year like how it did last year

[tiny venture]

Fair

[tiny venture]

Panning is like my thing it's so fun

[crimson bison]

It's crazy how when the track is wet lance stroll gets possessed by senna himself

[earnest lark]

I love that c8 shot

[vagrant dew]

thanks mate

[tiny venture]

where panning photos

If you want me to edit them I'm happy to

[vagrant dew]

I’m busy haha still in school

Plus I have like 300+ 😭

[tiny venture]

Light work that'll take me like 45 minutes lol

[spice sundial]

man i really missed moto season huh

i live an hour away

[vagrant dew]

dang, wasnt much to see to be honest. was a very clean race and got lightning'd out so we had about 3 hours of no racing then FCY to finish unfortunately

[spice sundial]

that sucks

[vagrant dew]

yea but it was my first time to any in person motorsport event so it was quite an experience

[spice sundial]

you live in indiana?

[vagrant dew]

no michigan, drove 4 hours haha

[spice sundial]

nice

was thinking to go for the msu game

decided against it tho

[tiny venture]

Its like that

Wait until you're even closer to the cars

It's so different

[vagrant dew]

i did get to get pretty close on the back straight

[spice sundial]

does shooting motorsports mean buying protective filter

lol

[tiny venture]

I rawdogged the lens there

[spice sundial]

Oh Monkey

[tiny venture]

I didn't even have my NDs on that day cause I forgot them at home

[spice sundial]

the humble stray rock

[tiny venture]

I've done drift lol

Smashed a filter in the front of my dad's lens

[crimson bison]

UUUUUUUULKENBERG

IN THE TRACTOR

[tiny venture]

Antonelli is having a great weekend lol

[crimson bison]

i love this podium lineup

i hate the max piastri lando

[glad wharf]

someone say tractor?

[crimson bison]

Ferrari what are you doing💔💔💔

[rich dagger]

bruh

I went to see the 849 testarossa at ferrari Sydney

It looks fine but it just looks like itms trying too hard

[rich dagger]

Tehn you’ll love the wuali results

FERRARI 2-3

oh yeah lando p1

[vagrant dew]

it looks like a copyright free car from a 2016 mobile racing game

[rich dagger]

Yeah

[glad wharf]

ew wtf

[rich dagger]

It’s fugly huh

[rich dagger]

The green 296 there was a whole lot prettier

[glad wharf]

oh hell yeah

give me that

[rich dagger]

My dad’s been swooning over this one since he saw it last year lol

It’s damn sexy

The 296 looks just alright in a flat colour

But the metallics are way better on it

[crimson bison]

this is how a professional drives

[crimson bison]

holy shit

4 wide into turn 1

a mclaren both ferraris and verstappen going 4 wide into t1

[crimson bison]

Boooooooo

Lmaooooo people hate it

closest ferrari has ever been to a p1 finish and ollie p4

@tiny venture

[tiny venture]

I knowww

[vagrant dew]

Max can still win

I do not want McLaren to win

[tiny venture]

I want Oscar to win

Cause Australian blood

But not lando I hate the brits

[tiny venture]

Scroll back and look at the last like 4 races everyone someone else wins it's all love hearts but lando wins and people hate it

[crimson bison]

same

fuck mclaren

i dont like mclaren

i want max to win

make this another 2007

[rich dagger]

As a ferrari fan, i have no words

Every damn tkme

[crimson bison]

Ollie in a haas placed higher than hamilton😭😭😭

[tiny venture]

https://tenor.com/view/fishwood-kevin-magnussen-nico-hulkenberg-haas-f1-team-double-dnf-gif-7340352581217907572

[crimson bison]

The classic haas disasterclass

[thorny sun]

I need a new camera

Like i denoised this to the max

I need a camera thats GREAT at high iso

Because the 1000d isnt great at 1600 ISO

[spice sundial]

Looks fine if you're not printing lol

[thorny sun]

I was gonna print

But i denoised it enough

Now

Not sure if this enough of denoising

Could you tell me if its enough?

[vagrant dew]

@tiny venture how’s my first attempt?

[tiny venture]

A bit too much Dutch angle but the photos are sharp so they're good

Personal thing I like to do is give more space when I shoot, and not have the car fill up all the frame, but just a small amount so you have room to crop and frame etc

[rich dagger]

It’s just straight underexposed man

[thorny sun]

Yea i forgot how to fix the settings because i didnt do this since like june

Oh ALSO the shutter speed was at 90 and ISO at 1600

And the image still looked dark like why

I need a new camera with higher iso and that can handle high iso without getting noise and grain

[tiny venture]

thats not exactly how it works

next time use a tripod and just keep slowing down

[rich dagger]

that's not particularly bright either way

[thorny sun]

I gotta buy one

[thorny sun]

Yea i guess

[tiny venture]

What's the aperture

[thorny sun]

Im disappointed in the pictures

[thorny sun]

5.6

[rich dagger]

aperture has to be the issue

[thorny sun]

I think

[rich dagger]

yup

bingo

[tiny venture]

Well there's the issueb

[thorny sun]

I cant go lower

[tiny venture]

Just get a better lens lol

[rich dagger]

^

[thorny sun]

Yea i got some options

[rich dagger]

camera ain't your issue

[tiny venture]

Nothing wrong with a mid camera

[thorny sun]

Ah

[tiny venture]

I literally use one

[thorny sun]

Would be better if it had higher ISO

[rich dagger]

i don't but it's ok

[thorny sun]

I could get the 50mm stm

[rich dagger]

(it is kinda mid for sports tho)

[thorny sun]

Or something better

[tiny venture]

Great lens

[thorny sun]

Like 400€ budget maybe

[rich dagger]

any nifty 50 is pretty nice

[tiny venture]

90 percent of your issue is the lens

[thorny sun]

Yea but the screen doesnt show me the true picture

The screen isn't great

[tiny venture]

Irrelevant

[rich dagger]

skill issue

[tiny venture]

Use the light meter

[thorny sun]

Oh that yea

I have it sometimes

[tiny venture]

I don't use the exposure preview on camera

[thorny sun]

What's the thing called on your screen to see if youre underexposed?

Like hologram something

[tiny venture]

The light meter

[thorny sun]

Yeah that

[rich dagger]

histogram maybe?

[thorny sun]

I dont really have it often because it blocks the whole picture

[rich dagger]

light meter with more info

[thorny sun]

I wish I used it but I didn't

Since its pretty hard to get the right settings in the room

Turn up the shutter once and you are looking at the darkest image

[tiny venture]

Useless and overrated

[thorny sun]

I dont like it on the screen

[rich dagger]

Yeah i don’t know how to use one lol

[thorny sun]

Since the screen is so small

[tiny venture]

It's so annoying to read

[rich dagger]

Cbf

[tiny venture]

It's in the viewfinder?

Not on the screen

[rich dagger]

Mother of god don’t tell me you’re using live view

[thorny sun]

Not on the 1000d

[tiny venture]

Yes it is

[thorny sun]

Sometimes yea

[tiny venture]

It's in the same spot on every single DSLR from any brand ever

[rich dagger]

[tiny venture]

They just name it differently

[rich dagger]

And most slrs

[tiny venture]

bottom middle of your viewfinder

[thorny sun]

Oh yea its there then

But i focus everything and the settings then use live view to check conditions

[tiny venture]

if you cant use that properly upgrading the camera isnt going to do anything

the light meter would've told you that in half a second

its the same thing as exposure preview, just in a graph

[thorny sun]

Yea

[thorny sun]

Mostly I just need a flipscreen to get those lower angles

[tiny venture]

also overrated

[thorny sun]

Because you cant use a viewfinder that low nor the screen

[tiny venture]

just hold the camera down and take a few photos and see what you get

its a lucky dip

[thorny sun]

Well i got so much noise in the image

That i denoised it and now the wheels look so weird

[tiny venture]

again, new lens will fix that

[thorny sun]

Yea i need a new lens

[tiny venture]

keep in mind you can take your ef lenses over to RF when you upgrade in a few years time

[thorny sun]

Yup

Ill look at some lenses

[tiny venture]

a new camera is not gonna solve your skill issue

[rich dagger]

Learned that the hard way lol

Although

Skill issue still not solved

[thorny sun]

Does this picture look unrealistic?

The wheels look unrealistic for me

[spice sundial]

auto iso lol

[rich dagger]

Wdym

It’s not unrealistic it’s nust horridly underexposed

[thorny sun]

They look slick

Lile f1 tires

On the side

[rich dagger]

No

There’s literally just nothing there

[thorny sun]

Oh

Well its just me then i guess

[rich dagger]

They look slick because there is no information for the camera to pick ip

[thorny sun]

But i do of course regret that its underexposed like that

[rich dagger]

Either the tyres just look like that

Or it’s very underexposed

[thorny sun]

Tires have Michelin markings

But in black

Sooo yea

There

But i dont think you can see it from the other angle then

[rich dagger]

Then it’s in a shadow…

[thorny sun]

Probably

[vagrant dew]

What’s that?

[vagrant dew]

I thought I gave it good space

[tiny venture]

the tilt on the photos

[tiny venture]

its mostly the first one the rest are fine

[spice sundial]

its all in post right?

[tiny venture]

not always

[spice sundial]

seems like itd be hard to pan tilted like that

[rich dagger]

Hold your camera on an angle and pan?

[spice sundial]

big stupid

[vagrant dew]

I did it on purpose but I did end up changing it in post bc it was a bit much

[vagrant dew]

I rlly liked the first one 🥲

[tiny venture]

It's not bad my preference for my photos is just a bit wider so I can crop in

You'll develop your own style as you practise more

[thorny sun]

Does it look realistic?

The tires

[sweet fjord]

[thorny sun]

They dont look realistic right

[sweet fjord]

clean new tires can look like that

also tire polish

[thorny sun]

Thats how the tires look

From a distance they look slick like 100% worn out

[sweet fjord]

ya those are new

[thorny sun]

Is it normal for the picture?

Because i denoised it

[sweet fjord]

ye

ai denoise just smooths things even more

[thorny sun]

I used free LR denoise

I mean

I will print it out

On a 2018 printer

@sweet fjord

Heres the normal picture

Zoom in

See the grain

I need the nifty fifty

[sweet fjord]

ya this is fine

[thorny sun]

For printing its not

Is the denoised picture fine for printing

Its on A4 paper

[tiny venture]

if its on a4 its fine

[crimson bison]

@tiny venture at cota for their christmas thing

you can drive your own car around the track

i have to do it.

i will rip my hair out if its not the full grand prix layout

[tiny venture]

do it

they claim its the world famous f1 track, therefore full grand prix layout

sue them otherwise

[crimson bison]

Idk now man

I watched a video of it

And they have a pace car and it goes super slow

[thorny sun]

Why does it look-

I cant explain

It looks somewhat weird

[bronze tundra]

no cpl for cars is crazy

[earnest lark]

only at night its justifieable

[bronze tundra]

cpl makes it darker by a stop right

idek

[earnest lark]

Yeah

[bronze tundra]

mm

js bought one for dirt cheap

ah fuck i just remembered

[earnest lark]

also at night suprise suprise there isnt much light so u dont need a cpl cuz u barely have reflections anyways

[earnest lark]

ooh

[bronze tundra]

my dumbass left it downstairs at the package collection thingy

[earnest lark]

ooohhh

[bronze tundra]

our brains are shrinking

[earnest lark]

https://tenor.com/view/our-brains-our-brains-are-our-brains-are-stinking-stinking-gif-1141374799563591806

[bronze tundra]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1334539255082389537/1346592645400625192/cat-cat-pat.gif

[earnest lark]

Hey hey hey

[bronze tundra]

man car photography is so boring

[earnest lark]

depends

[bronze tundra]

like 6 months ago it was all i wanted to do lmao

now its meh

if it aint on the track idw it 🔥

[earnest lark]

i like it

only photoshoot are neccesarily like exciting tho

[bronze tundra]

yeah that too

cant be bothered to ask tho w my lazy ass

someday ill try it

[earnest lark]

well i havent had a shoot yet cuz im waiting to save up for the camera im getting

rn im shooting on a borrowed Olympus, the sone role is cuz i thought why not put it now since im getting a one remotively soon

[bronze tundra]

a6xxx im guessing

[earnest lark]

na

[bronze tundra]

oh damn

which one then

a1ii

[earnest lark]

Wish

[earnest lark]

a7 II

[bronze tundra]

zamn

heard abt the shutter dying on em a lot

[earnest lark]

oh

im not probs gonna have it for sm time that i get to a point where the sc is enough for that to happen i think

[bronze tundra]

mm alr alr

[earnest lark]

im just gonna use it until i get major issues and then uppgrade

[bronze tundra]

yeaa understandable

idrk much bout sony

[earnest lark]

ah

[tiny venture]

Well duh they're not gonna let you just send it around a track in a car that isn't designed for itb

[tiny venture]

Why...

The a7ii is a absolutely horrendous camera

For the price of one used you can get a much better camera

Don't fall for the Sony propaganda you see on social media

[crimson bison]

I know lmao

Its just that the pace car goes REALLY slow