covfefe nerds

[rare acorn]

they do

they rarely export coffee, but the ones that do make it out are often highly praised

Yunnan is the only place that you can really grow coffee in China, also where most Pu'er is from, Pu'er, Yunnan

[lofty cairn]

@rare acorn have you ever bought chinese coffee? Given how close you are to them geographically compared to kenya/eth/colombia I'd expect you guys get easier access to chines coffee

[rare acorn]

well here's the thing

it doesn't matter where you are in the world if the roasters don't care for the origin

you could be in Costa Rica and have never had coffee from Nicaragua cause they make so little in comparison

on the matter of Chinese coffee, I've had a cup or two of Yunnan, but I am looking to acquire some beans

[lofty cairn]

Ja that makes sense tbh

[rare acorn]

most Yunnan coffee is either a Catimor/Caturra variant or a Geisha

[lofty cairn]

Tariffs are so high here I can't get my hands on imported coffee easily :(

[rare acorn]

where are you?

[lofty cairn]

India

[rare acorn]

have you ever had indian coffee?

[lofty cairn]

Oh of course!

[rare acorn]

since you're waterbound to Yemen, did you know Yemen even made coffee?

[lofty cairn]

[rare acorn]

in all my history of drinking coffee, I have never ever ever had Yemeni mocha

super rare

nothing related to import tariff, just wanted to put that out there

[lofty cairn]

Im also waterbound to peru

And panama 🤤

[rare acorn]

technically anyone who borders an ocean has access to everywhere

but I'm talkin in close proximity

[lofty cairn]

Wouldnt call yemen close proximity cmon

[rare acorn]

easier to get to Yemen than Yunnan

[lofty cairn]

Thats crazy but dayum

have you tasted indian coffee tho?

[rare acorn]

kind of

I've not tasted very good representations of the origin

[lofty cairn]

how so?

[rare acorn]

Indian coffee is relatively rare

at least overhere

Thailand despite having landbound trade routes to Indonesia, we rarely have Indonesian coffee

so yeah not really bound by tariff or distance, just purely taste

we probably import more Honduras and Kenyan coffee than Vietnamese or Laos coffee

[lofty cairn]

India is a pretty big exporter of kaffe

[rare acorn]

which is crazy cause Honduras is on the exact opposite side of the earth

and people don't even know Kenya grows coffee

[lofty cairn]

High tariffs on foreign coffee to protect the indian growers tbh

[rare acorn]

I've probably had robusta from India

[lofty cairn]

Kenya SL9/SL34 🤤

[rare acorn]

and Nepal's too busy growing weed I guess

[lofty cairn]

i tasted a honduras recently it was sooo good ❤️

[rare acorn]

which one

[lofty cairn]

Lmfao nepali weed certainly is highly regarded among stoners

[rare acorn]

so I've heard

[lofty cairn]

from Archers

[lofty cairn]

Finca mira flores lot 22

[rare acorn]

Fuyan estate Yunnan Anaerobic Natural

Catimor, of course

Yunnan Double Anaerobic washed of the Geisha variety sells for like

$40 a cup probably

[lofty cairn]

Man you should like send me yummers coffee 🥲

Its so rare to get myself non indian coffee

[rare acorn]

what coffee do you think you'd have that I don't?

maybe we can trade

[lofty cairn]

Shipping n customs go absolutely bonkers :((

[rare acorn]

you've probably never had Java or Laos coffee

[lofty cairn]

Oh trust me man you have wayy better coffee than i do

Even accesswise

[rare acorn]

well idk what is imported into India, maybe you've got some super local stuff

[lofty cairn]

Nothing i have is trade worthy since im still working thru a month old purchase of standout and archers coffee

[rare acorn]

most coffee that's known to be good in coffee producing regions is not exported

Yunnan Geishas are almost exclusively sold domestically

[lofty cairn]

Indian coffee is often plain bad

Sometimes tho

Blows you out of the world

[rare acorn]

I gotta get more coffee and a new coffee kettle

[lofty cairn]

I had this coffee that tasted like rose and cherry syrup

[rare acorn]

I've just refreshed my coffee setup

[lofty cairn]

Not cherry syrup

Uh berry-ish

It was top notch and quite cheap too

[rare acorn]

rose and cherry syrup?

[lofty cairn]

$7.09 for 200g

[rare acorn]

that's pretty cheap

[lofty cairn]

It was very prominently rose but there was also a lot of berry, like mix of cranberries blacberries typa smell

Sadly its not around rn

Uk what ill let you know if i come across something i love

[rare acorn]

honey geisha

[lofty cairn]

Buybuyvuy

[rare acorn]

$120/kg

[lofty cairn]

Cheap

(im joking)

[rare acorn]

this is pretty cool too

I like coffee that come in cool containers

[lofty cairn]

Some Nordic roaster sells in jars

Standout maybe

Say dev, how much do you typically pay for 250g of washed kenya from a good local roaster?

[rare acorn]

Kenya Mukunga for about $12 for 200g
KENYA Gichathani for about $10 for 150g

Kenya Adumu for about $15 for 200g

[lofty cairn]

Ooh sweet prices

[rare acorn]

all from Nyeri and all SL28/34 except for Mukunga which is somewhere else

Kirinyaga/Kiringaka Anaerobic washed for about $17 for 200g

all very good

[lofty cairn]

Man i wish i could get my hands on some 🥲

[rare acorn]

I'm drinking a Rwanda Kivi lake right now

that I got for about $7 for 200g

[lofty cairn]

Gotta emigrate to thailand for coffee

[rare acorn]

lol

yeah coffee culture is good here

I've already had like, 4 serves of this Rwanda coffee and I've had it for 2 days

gotta get more coffee

[lofty cairn]

🥲

Real

[thorny hare]

https://www.rawmaterial.coffee/news-insights/the-anoxic-water-pillow-technique

I googled the technique and the guy in the photo is the beans I bought

How cool

[deft barn]

I have one

[thorny hare]

“we saw the rise of anoxic fermentations, co-ferments, koji inoculation, thermal shock, saline washes, and flavour additives.”

[rare acorn]

a yemeni al mokha? real?

[deft barn]

Down to the farm

I have the exact coordinates

[quiet fable]

if this tastes like tiramisu id be dammed

[thorny hare]

This anoxic water pillow coffee literally smells like a sweeter durian kinda crazy

[lapis mantle]

Finally splurged on some quality bean storage, leaving the raw beans in those bags - no matter how well constructed they are, isn't a great storage solution.

I got the glass ones so I can see how much is left in there.

[thorny hare]

i wish i could spend for this

[lapis mantle]

The way Fellow built the vacuum pump into the lid is brilliant.

[rare acorn]

thats cool

thing with glass is u should keep it in the dark

but definitely looks cool

I would kinda hate organized storage tho cause idk what beans are what lol

and I have like 3-4 beans at one time

[lapis mantle]

Just label them with tape, aesthetically janky but effective.

[rare acorn]

tape residue is definitely not something you wanna see on glass

[vital spoke]

tchibo has 75th year roast here

bought some today, can taste the hazelnut in it. Awesome

[lofty cairn]

how did you brew it kinezier?

[vital spoke]

had them grinded in number 3

and pulled an espresso shot

[lofty cairn]

what grinder??

[vital spoke]

Idk what Tchibo uses

They use something like this

[lofty cairn]

ouu ic

very cool

[vital spoke]

But i want a manual grinder

[lofty cairn]

im not familiar myself though

[vital spoke]

Open for recommendations

[lofty cairn]

budget?

[vital spoke]

ahhh

lets say 100 usd

Not much

[lofty cairn]

try getting a kingrinder P2

you could get a 1zpresso Q as well but it might be slightly more

I am not sure if you can buy Kingdrinder K6 for $100 but look for it, its a nice grinder. has some issues with rusting if you do too much wdt so read up on that

you could also consider the timemore c3 but really I would advise buying the P2 or Q over it

I've also heard good things about the mischief M40 and well as some MFWH Bomber grinder?

all these grinders should be around $100

sorry its mhw 3 bomber

[vital spoke]

how about

molent g50

[lofty cairn]

no idea, never heard of them

if i had to give you one recc, I would say get the kingrinder k6 but never under any circumstances let even the tiniest drop of water in otherwise it will rust. I know people personally whose grinders have rusted because they did RDT to the beans before grinding

otherwise get a 1zpresso Q

[thorny hare]

@rare acorn bro

This coffee is crazy

The water pillow one

My first sacrificial one I did 18g and 36g out in 38 seconds, I fugged up but the coffee is incredible

Never tasted anything like it

Woeeeeew

[deft barn]

Told ya the stuff is powerful

[rare acorn]

the water pillow definitely works

[thorny hare]

oh yeah 100%

incredible americano

you should try it

200g for £20 tho

is brutal as fuck

[rare acorn]

definitely definitely

I'll see if someone stocks something similar

oh hell yeah

@thorny hare what about the coffee do you find the most attractive

the taste profile of it

[deft barn]

Probably not if you're in Thailand

[thorny hare]

idk kek

uhhh

its just exceptionally fruity and sweet

like tangy

[deft barn]

all the anoxic water pillow stuff seems to be sucked up by Western markets right now

[rare acorn]

you have no idea

how lucky I am

how blessed the coffee market is in Thailand

[deft barn]

Thailand has some pretty special domestically grown and processed lots I must admit

[rare acorn]

I've got Jim and coke right now tho

so definitely a different indulgence

[rare acorn]

not to be a nepo baby or anything, but some of the craziest coffees I've had were Thai in some way

[deft barn]

Bit of a rarity where I live though, cause the cost of them are already admittedly prohibitive

[rare acorn]

definitely

most of coffee I see in Thailand is grown for domestic

same with China, Indonesia, laos

Laos has a lot of export cause 80% of their territory is mountain and cold

check this out for example

minilot, not quite micro, from a very experimental estate

$25 for 200g for this stuff, extremely good

also had some of this stuff

$30 for 200g

[thorny hare]

gyatt

thats so expensive

[rare acorn]

its straight gas tho

but I'm happy you're come around on Americano

the next best thing to Filter coffee

[thorny hare]

yeah i like it

you really taste everything

[deft barn]

to be honest what I mostly focus on are coffees processed more simply that highlights varietal and terroir

[rare acorn]

check this otu

this roaster founded by Sasa Sestic who won the 2015 world's barista championship, now operating in Bangkok

meant to be a latte drink

[vital spoke]

Sb here does tiramisu latte now

Tried it

Better than their overall sugary coffees

[thorny hare]

Instead of doing 36g out in 30 seconds I’ve been doing it closer to around 25 seconds and I’ve found it to be much sweeter and delectable @rare acorn

This is okay for light roasts right?

Gonna assume that the bean is a light roast

The water pillow one

[deft barn]

This is very lovely

[rare acorn]

brother I tell you, if it tastes good, you're doing it right

[thorny hare]

i seen a thing and it was like

[rare acorn]

your instinct is right, some light roasts when you do espresso, is better with shorter brew

[thorny hare]

lighter roasts --> less time --> more sweet

yeah

thank you

[rare acorn]

[thorny hare]

sensei

[rare acorn]

I just got my mango moonstone and my lychee moonstone

got a mouthful of bean to chew on so now I'm full lychee in my mouth, amazing sensation

[thorny hare]

how much for 100g

[rare acorn]

$10

[thorny hare]

thats pretty expensive

[rare acorn]

for about 7 brews, 14 servings, that's decent

roughly 7 brews with a 15g dose, for $10, that's about $1.50 a serving

not an everyday coffee, but a great coffee you want to drink everyday

they updated the art tho, I love this roaster

gen1 bag, gen2 bag, gen3 current gen bag

great for my coffee wall, progressing everyday

I also got matcha stuff

got 50g of this stuff that I'm doing about a 3g dosage for on iced lattes, pretty good

also got a bamboo whisk

got one of these sets for $10

whisk, the holder, scoops, bowl

[thorny hare]

i guess for espresso its a bit overkill

i wish i had these fancy beans

im almost out of some beans

must get some soon

[rare acorn]

I've had it as espresso and made an Americano with it

loses some delicate flavors and the tea notes that come with filter extraction, but the punch is immaculate

nothing like drinking coffee and getting straight mango or lychee

fucks with people

the other day I served a friend who usually drinks hot Americano with 2 sugars, gave him an Ethiopian, he found it interesting

[rare acorn]

hope you can get some

sometimes even with good money you can't get ahold of this stuff

gotta find someone willing to ship it to you

[thorny hare]

i want to try it

but i have no idea how to get it here

[thorny hare]

you're making me want to drink it

sapp

probably wont be able to get it here

is there anything from china i could buy lol

i got a superbuy agent order atm

[rare acorn]

well, nothing's impossible

give me an address near you, I can see if I can ship stuff there

there's also the possibility of me just shipping you the stuff

[thorny hare]

Could work yeah

Uhhh

[thorny hare]

Queen’s University of Belfast
University Road
Belfast
County Antrim
BT7 1NN
Northern Ireland
United Kingdom

Something like that

[rare acorn]

had some of that coffee

just reporting in that I'm about to have some more

I am greedy.

[thorny hare]

hehe

[rare acorn]

wow thats a big blend

a caturra, bourbon and pache all in one bag

but Peruvian, quite rare as well, can't go wrong with Peruvian

[rare acorn]

@haughty jungle you're invited

[haughty jungle]

NO

NOOOO

NOOOOO NO NO NO

[rare acorn]

proof of purchase

[haughty jungle]

I had it for a while

[rare acorn]

yeah the older Sage Barista Express, not a bad machine

[haughty jungle]

I’d like something nicer but the impress is a compromise for the gf’s ease of use

[thorny hare]

is that a bad sign?

[rare acorn]

No, just means it's either masterfully crafted, or its very safe

Caturra is the most plentiful but can also be the most complex and tasty, I'd assume from the region that it's the most plentiful variety since Caturra is such a high yield high reward, bourbon is pretty complex, pache is just common to the area I'd presume

[thorny hare]

Thank you

[thorny hare]

@rare acorn a friend is going to Kenya

Any beans I could get

[haughty jungle]

Pœck

[deft barn]

Surely nothing could go wrong

[lofty cairn]

dormans AA washed is surprisingly good given the mad cheap price

[thorny hare]

These are crazy pucks

So dry

[haughty jungle]

Well, yeah, they’ve been sitting for a bit

[rare acorn]

nice, very even, delicious brownie

[haughty jungle]

Gotta add they’ve been sitting on the counter for a bit

[rare acorn]

I know what I can get that tastes good

but I'll never know what you can get IN kenya that is good

Kirinyaga and Nyeri are the regions I'm familiar with

so whatever you can get that ISN'T from those regions, that's where the experiments begin

most coffee you'll find is from Nyeri, Dorman is a producer in that region and they make a few different greens

Batian, Ruiru 11, SL 28, SL 34, those the only bean varieties I know of in Kenya

https://varieties.worldcoffeeresearch.org/varieties/sl28
https://varieties.worldcoffeeresearch.org/varieties/sl34
https://varieties.worldcoffeeresearch.org/varieties/ruiru-11
https://varieties.worldcoffeeresearch.org/varieties/batian

if you wanna learn a little bit more

if you ask me, SL 28 is the best bean you can get, aside from some obscure Bourbon that only one estate grows, or true Pana­man­ian Geisha

so the stuff you're looking for for the good stuff that you will not have to experiment with is an SL28/34 blend, they usually come in a blend cause SL28 is a much higher altitude bean and a lot of Kenyan hills are at the right altitude for the SL28/34 mix

https://www.seriouseats.com/kenyan-coffee-what-does-sl28-taste-like-coffee-varieties

read more here if you're interested

[thorny hare]

oh dang

im gonna need to sit down and have a good read

thank you for the in depth information

[merry arrow]

Hi

[thorny hare]

welcome to the coffee corner

[rare acorn]

Nice rig

[rare acorn]

I don't see a pourover setup tho

let's see it

you can't have a Stagg and a Zerno Z1 without doing filter

[sharp iris]

very very nice

[merry arrow]

I have an April brewer and ZP6 hand grinder for filter

[rare acorn]

nice

whats your coffee profile like

you into ultralight pre-crack roasts?
ultradark Japanese style low-agitation percs?

[merry arrow]

I drink light/medium roast

I had ultra light before. It wasn’t my cup of tea

Tasted too wheat grassy

[rare acorn]

ironically, it MIGHT be a cup of tea

[merry arrow]

My favorite beans are Ethiopian Yirga

[rare acorn]

ultralight is more tealike than coffee like

[rare acorn]

can't beat Yirgacheffe

[merry arrow]

My pour overs are typically El Praiso Beans, coferment

[rare acorn]

some of my favorite beans was a local roasters' overpriced G0 Yirga

[merry arrow]

What blew my mind was DAK’s Lychee

Omg

[rare acorn]

Dak?

Vietnamese?

[merry arrow]

Nah

Dutch roaster

[rare acorn]

ah

I'm from Thailand, whole different side of the world

[merry arrow]

Oic

[rare acorn]

drinking a local coffee right now

[merry arrow]

Vietnam is getting into arabica speciality coffee now I guess

[rare acorn]

a 72hr anaerobic ferment, tastes like Mangoes

[merry arrow]

Sounds delicious

[rare acorn]

they've always been into speciality, but Vietnam is very Vietnamese-first

they export Arabicas for manufacturers, but almost never export their good stuff, only keeping it to themselves

[merry arrow]

Ahhh

[rare acorn]

Asia's the same, Indonesia, Vietnam, Thailand, Yunnan China, Futian China

all VERY exotic coffees that you will never find anywhere unless you pay $30 a cup for it

[merry arrow]

I had some robusta from VN. Ember was the roaster

It was pretty good

The beans were not dark and oily

[rare acorn]

Vietnamese coffee is very interesting

they really like robustas and pulling sweet from them

[merry arrow]

Ya

[rare acorn]

extremely low perculation, could even call it immersion, the phin dripper

[merry arrow]

I just finished up my bag of SAKA

[rare acorn]

very interesting, sweet full body dark roast

Saka?

[merry arrow]

Blend from Naples Italy

[rare acorn]

ah

didn't know Italy actually exported beans

thought Illy had a chokehold on that market

[merry arrow]

Yeah there are some individuals who export it I guess

I ordered and had to wait like a month

[rare acorn]

did you order green? or roasted?

[merry arrow]

Roasted

What’s your setup

[rare acorn]

I've got a Hario switch for filter with a Comandante mk3

[merry arrow]

Nice

[rare acorn]

for shots I've got a flair

[merry arrow]

Flair 58?

[rare acorn]

but usually for espresso I go to the cafe I work next to, they let me have my way with their equipment lol

[rare acorn]

no, just classic

[merry arrow]

Too much faff

[rare acorn]

I think it's worth it

I like the texture of a flair shot, even if it takes 10minutes to make a shot

would take a flair shot over a machine shot most days, if I'm not the one making it that is

[merry arrow]

I’m pretty much set for my coffee. There’s an 80mm Zerno coming out this year but I don’t have as much fomo for that just yet

The Zerno I have now is good

I do kinda still want an LM Micra

[rare acorn]

I wanna get a Lelit going for espresso, that would be pretty nice

[merry arrow]

Bianca?

[rare acorn]

probably,

[merry arrow]

Very nice

[rare acorn]

I had the chance to get a one of it's cousins at an amazing price

[lofty cairn]

@rare acorn where can I get nice beans around suranaree university of technology?

[rare acorn]

I was sniped by some person who drove hours and hours to get infront of me

sucks

[merry arrow]

Dang

[rare acorn]

I know in Nakorn there's a few roasters

not sure that specific location

I'd order at that point

[rare acorn]

yeah it was an Eureka and a Lelit, all for like, $600

[lofty cairn]

Got a friend going there in end of july

I doubt i can have him order smthn to his hotel

[rare acorn]

whoever stole it from me, probably a reseller too, they've got a great deal

[lofty cairn]

So would prefer a physical store or roaster physical shop

[rare acorn]

I called first and was supposed to pick it up 2 days from the date I called
but someone picked it up before me, and they sold it thinking it was me

kinda sucks

[rare acorn]

why not?

you can order cash on delivery, give them the receptionist's phone

[lofty cairn]

Seems like a lot of hassle

Have to ask him if he'd be down, physical stores would be simpler to figure

[rare acorn]

if you insist

here's a place

$10 a night cafe, roastery, and hotel

[lofty cairn]

Nah hotels n stuffs predecided

[rare acorn]

or here

[lofty cairn]

Thanks

[merry arrow]

Hell of a steal

[thorny hare]

gonna make some cofi now

@merry arrow there's a cafe here which stocks dak

but they tend to be quite old beans for some reason

nobody buying them

[merry arrow]

Where is here

[thorny hare]

ireland

[merry arrow]

Try it out. I only had lychee

But people like Milky Cake

[thorny hare]

https://www.dakcoffeeroasters.com/shop

are we talking about the same people

[merry arrow]

Yep

That’s them

[thorny hare]

its out of stock it seems

[merry arrow]

I paid $40 shipped for Lychee a couple years ago lol

[thorny hare]

looks like they dont do it anymore

[merry arrow]

Yeah

[thorny hare]

im on these beans at the moment

[merry arrow]

The farmer Diego/El paiso does the beans seasonally

[deft barn]

if you ever need to satisfy that lychee craving you could try to source some Yunnan Dehong Triple ferment

it's the east asian equivalent

[merry arrow]

@rare acorn

[rare acorn]

Nice

This is what I've been raving about, have some down stairs

And the even more expensive mangapple version

[rare acorn]

Context: Lychee is $100/kg
Mango is $150/kg

[lofty cairn]

oh mannnnnn 😭

[lofty cairn]

i didnt. it tasted like mid roadside chai, which I get would def blow white people's minds but I'm from india and roadside chai is everywhere for 5 rs a cup! 😂

[haughty jungle]

I ordered "new" beans, my current ones are too sour

Previous ones were lovely

@rare acorn rate

If you need a translate let me know

[rare acorn]

Washed Honduras Catuai

Hmmm

Usually when I see Honduras I see honey, or anaerobic, don't know much about the origin, but $26/kg can't be bad

[haughty jungle]

Quite nice for cappucino

If anything i found it to be a nice all-rounder, espresso and cappucino with it were nice

Not really any outliers, not bitter, not sour

Quite thick texture

I liked it

[rare acorn]

Nice

[haughty jungle]

Nothing like.. Fancy..?

But just a smooth drink

Very strong coffee flavour though (kek)

[rare acorn]

Sometimes that's the best

The most expensive coffees aren't really expensive cause they taste like unicorn tears

But because they're consistent, reliable, smooth drinking

[lapis mantle]

Finally found out how to turn the auto off feature on my coffee scale, so now I can use the timer without the thing shutting itself off after 180 seconds.

So now I can also use it for brewing with my French press.

[thorny hare]

i buy all my coffee beans local

keeps it fresh

fresh roasted beans from a week ago is peak coffee

[haughty jungle]

Hm.. new dose for these beans and they’re.. okay

New beans on the way though, delivered tomorrow

.3 grams made the difference

18 vs 18.3 grams, made quite the difference in taste

[lofty cairn]

uhh not always the case

[thorny hare]

yeah yeah yeah

whatever

no need to yap to me about stuff i already know thank you

[haughty jungle]

[lofty cairn]

says something objectively wrong
"yeah yeah I know I know don't lecture me on that"

[haughty jungle]

I mean.. he’s not objectively wrong

Since in general he’s right, but occasionally wrong depending on the beans

[thorny hare]

im not objectively wrong at all

[haughty jungle]

More often than not freshly roasted is better after a few days because the beans still have to release co2 from roasting that can leave a sour taste

[thorny hare]

what are you yapping about

[haughty jungle]

Objectively he’s.. right in this case, with some exceptions

Depending on the bean/roast

[lofty cairn]

which is why i said "not always" 🤷🏻‍♂️

[thorny hare]

which is why i said "YEAH YEAH YEAH WHATEVER"

[haughty jungle]

Yeah but that doesn’t make it objectively wrong

[lofty cairn]

in fact most light roasts don't fully open up after just a week of resting

[thorny hare]

this guy is boring

[haughty jungle]

He’s objectively right, but there’s exceptions

[lofty cairn]

you do you 👍🏻

[thorny hare]

god forbid someone have a bit of fun

[haughty jungle]

That’s.. weird but okay

[thorny hare]

"buh ascksually"

[merry arrow]

I know I’m late but some light roasted beans takes over a month for it to develop taste.

(Hides)

[haughty jungle]

[rare acorn]

My cheap scale will run until its batteries give up

[lofty cairn]

Ive got a quote for a eureka precisa digital for $17.44 (converted), it's third hand but was purchased october of last year... I'm wondering if I should pull the plug on it or not...

Its def better than my 5 year old cheapie coffee scale but tbh I haven't run into massive issues with it yet

[rare acorn]

brave

[merry arrow]

It’s not unheard of 😉

[rare acorn]

I have had some light roast beans that have sat for months

that have still come out to be okay

quick to extract cause it's basically mush when you grind it, very little fines, very big gaps in coffee particles

so grind it finer and fingers crossed it's still drinkable

[lofty cairn]

Same, some coferment stuff is crazy lol

[haughty jungle]

Roasted on the 20th, should be good to use now no?

[thorny hare]

A lil early

I usually wait 10 days

[haughty jungle]

Kinda depends on the beans i guess, generally i just try it on the first day and go from there

If it's overly sour, i leave it for a few more days

[haughty jungle]

After stirring btw

[ripe musk]

whats that logo :0

[rare acorn]

a medium should be good in a week

[rare acorn]

wow the Sage has a lotta foam

[rare acorn]

but I don't condone sticking to rules, that's part of what makes a hobby fun; exploration

learn what makes things good, bad, ugly, pretty

light roast one day after roast? why not

[haughty jungle]

Definitely not, this espresso was great

Fuck the rules

[rare acorn]

some coffee is liquid gold

hint: it's called omni-roast

[rare acorn]

MANNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN

my friend has heart issues

guess I've gotta get decaf now

[vital spoke]

:(

Well made decaf is as good as normal as i had my decaf adventure months ago

[lapis mantle]

only problem is the beans go stale so much faster.

[rare acorn]

man

want coffee

but dont wanna go make 😦

[lofty cairn]

what's the time?

[rare acorn]

4am

just made coffee

life good

[lofty cairn]

why you up at 4 lmao

[rare acorn]

why not

just woke up quite late today, energetic, fueled by at least 2 coffees and 3 burger king single patties

[lofty cairn]

i mean im up at 3

so not exactly one to judge

[rare acorn]

do you have coffee?

[lofty cairn]

no

chronic stress seems to have permanently altered my sleep schedule

[rare acorn]

well

you've got an hour to get coffee to catch up with me

[lofty cairn]

hahaha i hope i fall asleep before an hour

[haughty jungle]

@rare acorn

[merry arrow]

Did this taste hella bitter

[haughty jungle]

No?

[merry arrow]

Looks over extracted

[haughty jungle]

Tasted fine

[quiet fable]

btw

i got myself a frénch press now

[rare acorn]

looks

time-wise it's a quick shot so it should be sour

10 second preinfusion and a 25second shot yielding 36

[haughty jungle]

8 second pre-infusion, the moment i let go off the button it stops preinfusing and instantly starts

Didn't taste sour

[rare acorn]

das cool

[haughty jungle]

Good beans i guess

[rare acorn]

I wanna get a new coffee scale

what scales you all got

[deft barn]

classic timemore black mirror

works perfectly fine for me and the in built timer is nice

would recommend you get it during one of the big sale periods from taobao

[rare acorn]

maybe

looking at the wacaco right now

my biggest beef with my current scale is the lack of rubber lol

it's just friction mounted, so doesn't stay on

[deft barn]

Honestly some of the MH3W scales have gotten quite good now

I was able to try them at WoC

the acaia lunar looklike might be your best bet then

[rare acorn]

who makes that?

[deft barn]

ehhhh i think it's the "bomber" company

[rare acorn]

mh3w bomber which model?

this wacaco rig is pretty cute ngl

the wacaco has a hardcase which is cool

man a $270 coffee scale is crazy

[thorny hare]

I got a MHW 3Bomber scale

[lapis mantle]

Anyone here have any experience with the ROK benchtop hand grinder? I intend to use it for pour over/french press.

I hate having to switch grind settings on my electric grinders, i'd like a grinder set aside for non-espresso drinks.

[rare acorn]

could always get another handgrinder

[lofty cairn]

YOLO get acaia

[rare acorn]

nah $200 for a coffee scale that works the same as a $10 one is crazy

rather get a $40 wacaco and a $160 geisha lot

[lapis mantle]

I have a few coffee scales - the one I use the most by far is the Rhino scale, the weirdest one I have is the subminimal cup scale - which has a pretty limited range of use IMO.

[deft barn]

i so fucking wish marketing coffee wasn't all concentrated on insta

[lapis mantle]

I have two accounts both get different marketing and follow recommendations sent to them. It's infuriating, I know.

[lapis mantle]

I have a Normcore V2 grinder I pack when travelling, It has the titanium nitride burrs. I'd like to have a bench top hand grinder I can muck about with different brewing methods.

[deft barn]

might as well get the fellow ode

[lapis mantle]

I'd rather have a manual grinder with a decent hopper capacity, the normcore can only grind 22g of beans at once for a single serve aeropress that's fine, but for a standard French press that isn't enough.

[rare acorn]

makes sense

[rare acorn]

the subminimal is definitely interesting, useful for everything

if it does what I think it does, it's kinda like an all-in-one cup which I appreciate

dose your bean, pull your shot, pour milk/water, great workflow for a latte/Americano/iced drip

drinking out of your scale

[deft barn]

even so ROK is not a very good brew grinder

produces quite a bit of fines, ironically suited better for espresso

[lapis mantle]

well that is unfortunate, I always thought manual grinders were better for pour overs and French press - with espresso being more physically more arduous for manual grinders.

[deft barn]

yes and the best manual grinders now are actually, hand held

if you want a hopper size big enough, well tough luck you're gonna need to move to electric

[lapis mantle]

I like the normcore V2 manual grinder - it comes with a very well laid out travel case. The other appeal of a manual grinder is the tactility and the scent of fresh coffee - you don't really get so much of that from electric grinders.

[lapis mantle]

The hopper on the ROK grinder seems to be a decent size, much bigger than the paltry 22g maximum my current manual grinder can handle.

[deft barn]

Doesn't really matter if the grinder focus is on espresso in the first place

[rare acorn]

what bottle do you guys use for rdt

trying to find one right now that will be a little more sophisticated than the $1 for 5 you can get

perfume bottle is my keyword rn

[thorny hare]

I don’t even have one

But perfume atomizer can sometimes be difficult to fill depending which ones you get

[rare acorn]

made sure to get a perfume atomizer that unscrews

[rare acorn]

rdt bottle search gone wrong

bought 2 perfumes

"Picnic with Strangers" and "Lonely in the Jazz Club"

[thorny hare]

never heard of these

but they sound like maison margiela clones

Jazz Club is a Maison Margiela fragrance

[rare acorn]

they're local artisanal

fortunate to live in a place where people arent too pretentious to wear non-designer

and materials arent too hard to source that building your own perfume is out of the question

the only designer I'd wear is like, Ysl, or Christian Dior, cause they're cool guys

[thorny hare]

Ah nice

Cool stuff

I wear niche usually

I have a big fragrance collection

[rare acorn]

"smells like mystery" is the note

blackrose and vanilla topnotes, earthy woody base notes,

and "picnic with strangers" is inspired from the artisan's trip to Seoul and the day picnic culture there, the smell of roses and grass lol

so fig and rose top notes, blackcurrant middle notes, cashmeran and musk base

[ripe musk]

does anyone know how to tell if their fragrances aren’t like just proctor and gamble chemical slop

that companies have just licensed their branding to

[vital spoke]

I got an invictus

with vanilla as alt note

mornings are woody and evenings are vanilla

[thorny hare]

https://www.fragrantica.com/member/2134839

my fragrantica profile

[haughty jungle]

Meh, i just have Dior Sauvage

[lapis mantle]

Interesting, in my corner of the world everyone who comes from money goes for bespoke products.

[lapis mantle]

you'd need to make friends with a chemist who has access to LCMS or NMR.

I was gifted a bottle of this in a sampler set a few years ago - I usually use it with a broad nib fountain pen for birthday cards.

[rare acorn]

scented ink is a whole new tier of old money

[vital spoke]

Anyone tried espresso martini

Is it goody

[ripe musk]

that’s a good shout

i think it’s immensely based that chanel no. 5 is still made using rose farmed petals in the same farms they’ve been using for decades and they have a full time nose on staff to make sure the scent is consistent

[lapis mantle]

I make mine in a nitro whipper, with a few drops of Angostura cocoa bitters added.

[lapis mantle]

I'd be tempted to try making an espresso martini affogato using James Hoffman's style coffee ice cream.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHPn77jpt2w

[haughty jungle]

[rare acorn]

nothing screams luxury like brushed aluminum

jokes aside, that's one of the best non-serious home setups you can get and one of the best I've seen

rocking full sage

[sharp iris]

i kinda almost did the thing

[haughty jungle]

It's a 'lil butt

[thorny hare]

I haven’t made lattes in about a month

Weathers been too warm and I’ve been doing a lot of americanos if I did do hot

[rare acorn]

funny cause in my case it's been too cold so I've been getting into lattes and capps instead

[thorny hare]

Cold in Thailand?

Does that even exist

I’ve been making iced lattes mostly

[rare acorn]

in the days of rain it does

but ya know, cold for me is 29c with a bit of rain and wind

and hot is more like, 40c with 100% humidity where you risk heatstrokes just being outside

[thorny hare]

Cold for me is 1-5c and hot is anything above 21c

[rare acorn]

I mean, I saw people in shorts in early winter Singapore and coastal China, and those only go down to about like, 15c

and I thought they were insane

[thorny hare]

15c is shorts here too

Shorts from like 10c

[rare acorn]

crazy

I wore shorts outside in Macau in about 13-18c and my legs were shivering, could barely walk

[thorny hare]

Not Irish enough

[merry arrow]

That’s all I drink

[rare acorn]

if all youve ever had was americano, a nice hot cappuchino hits like a mf

[merry arrow]

I had other coffees but the ones I make are americanos or pour overs

[rare acorn]

my critique of modern coffee culture is diluting everything with syrup and ice, people don't know the value of properly steamed milk foam and how sweet that can be naturally

[merry arrow]

I made a few lattes. But I do not prefer anything other than straight coffee

I drink coffees in the morning and fast so I just become attuned to it

[rare acorn]

@exotic token coffee

[exotic token]

did someone say COFFEE????????????????????????????????

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1196809669361008812.webp?size=128&animated=true

i drink like 4 coffees a day

a espresso in the morning

a cappucino at midday
a espresso machiatto at 4 o'clock
and a marochino in the evening

[rare acorn]

nice

didn't know the marocchino was a thing

overhere we would've just called it a macchiato or cappuchino

[thorny hare]

looks fancy

and a lot of chocolate

[merry arrow]

When do you sleep? 🤯

[rare acorn]

too busy drinking coffee, no time to sleep

[merry arrow]

I’m done after two coffees in the morning.

Espresso/americano then a pour over

I rarely drink one in the afternoon unless I’m tired asf

[exotic token]

im built different

i wake up at at 6 in the morning and go to bed at around 10-11 o'clock in the evenin

plenty of time for coffee

: )

[exotic token]

when i can

[rare acorn]

ive just made coldbrew

time to drink it in 18 hours

[exotic token]

wowwwww

what did you put in it?

just coffee and other stuff?

[ripe musk]

:0

[deft barn]

Awww that's cute

[exotic token]

WHERE IS THAT EVENT

i wanna go

no

i need to go

[ripe musk]

melbourne

[rare acorn]

drinking my almost 26hour coldbrew now

this is like, some of the lowest yield coffee I've ever done

900ml water 90g coffee
about 500-600ml out

I fucked up my grinder's dial so I also have a ton of fines, terribly hard to extract

[exotic token]

i had my fav coffee

my cold coffee

just an espresso, milk, cream and cocoa

and wow

in this heat its the best

[exotic token]

who had more than 4 coffees today?

[rare acorn]

with the concentration of cold brew I had, it's probably 6 coffees worth

[exotic token]

oooooooooooooooooooooooooooh

nice

i had 5 today, i had an athletics meeting

so i needed a boost : )

[merry arrow]

Only 2.

[exotic token]

I can't drink my coffees I'm in a music camp😭

[lapis mantle]

I soak my Oboe reeds in Kahlua - it gives my articulation a real zing to it.

[rare acorn]

excuses excuses excuses

[exotic token]

I know

SIKE @rare acorn

U underestimate me

[exotic token]

Damn nice instrument man!

[rare acorn]

can't knock the instant coffee

also that's a nicaraguan honduras mocha cappuchino freeze dried coffee

that's a pretty crazy combination

[thorny hare]

Descaled my gaggia just for safety

Will be able to make coffee finally

Haven’t made coffee in a while

[lapis mantle]

It's the famous Howarth bubblegum oboe, I have only played it a few times as it's an absolute eyesore.

[lapis mantle]

I prefer to play on French Oboes - like this Rigoutat Oboe I've had for the past 11 years.

[exotic token]

I play the cornet

My cornet is a besson prestige 2028 with a Denise wick heritage 4 mouthpiece

[lapis mantle]

Rotary or Piston valve?

[lapis mantle]

Ahh Piston. Rotaries are more popular in Europe as they have more overtones to them than pistons do, which leads to a mellower sound. But intonation can be a bit odd with rotaries.

[exotic token]

How much is it worth?

[lapis mantle]

If you include the price of the trip to France...it cost a lot, but I enjoyed visiting their Paris workshop and seeing how Rigoutat instruments were made.

[exotic token]

Nice

[thorny hare]

My mocha today

[exotic token]

Yummy

[sharp iris]

very neat i havent seen one in person before

at a cafe where they actually made a swan

nice message order discord

[thorny hare]

the cafe down the street from me does swans but only for their regular customers

ive only managed to see one so far though

my friends a regular and she always manages to get a swan

she edits in there, so thats probably why

[rare acorn]

respectable lines

.

the black cup's a mocha or something
and the green I think a capu

not too familiar on cupsizes

[lapis mantle]

Ask them if they can do a Canadian goose.

[rare acorn]

Usually they have Red Smirnoff for me

[lofty cairn]

Any nice german coffee roasters guys?

Specifically, for filter coffee

[thorny hare]

Bonanza Coffee Roaster is incredibly popular here

They’re German

https://shop.bonanzacoffee.de/collections/coffee

[lofty cairn]

Thanks

[deft barn]

The Barn was quite good last I tried them

[thorny hare]

Smol heart

Cafe mocha with a few squares of dark chocolate slaps so fucking hard

It’s unbelievable

[rare acorn]

I saw a nice heart today in the cafe next door, they went from not having any latte art to having a heart, great step, working towards greatness

[exotic token]

COFFEE

Reeeee

[rare acorn]

had some nice pourovers today

my church wants to start a cafe, they'll looking at Gemilail machines

[vital spoke]

I

Got draft cold brew today

Loved it

[rare acorn]

draft cold brew?

cold brew on the tap?

[vital spoke]

Yes

They also got draft americano

[rare acorn]

doesnt sound like something economical

stale coffee is really not pleasant, draft Americano probably holds for a day max

but in-and-out coffee for takeaway at record speeds is appreciable

[vital spoke]

This is a takeaway place

It runs out by noon

[rare acorn]

that's cool

[vital spoke]

They have around 150 products lul

Really big franchise here in Türkiye

[rare acorn]

grabbing a Peru Geisha and a Finca Santa Lucia

also trying a Yunnan "Red Wine" ferment

not sure if it's single anaerobic or anything special like DF or pillow

[rare acorn]

mmm red bourbon rwanda

[thorny hare]

Is it good

For espresso

Or mainly filter

[rare acorn]

it's good for espresso too

what roast?

[thorny hare]

No idea

They don’t say roast

[rare acorn]

that's interesting

that probably means omni-roast, a sort-of medium, good for both filter and espresso

[thorny hare]

they have all these special roasts, changes every few months etc, new beans come in

but they dont state what roast it is

[ripe musk]

they were so much harder to grind

and tasted terrible

absolutely zero redeeming qualities

[rare acorn]

what were

[ripe musk]

Oh first message didn't load

[ripe musk]

I made a coffee using the leftover/scrap beans from the last 4 bags

I knew it was going to taste awful, was not preparared for it to be the absolute pits though

[rare acorn]

lol

old leftover scraps coffee is almost never good

[thorny hare]

Mocha today

[deft barn]

hey anyone in amsterdam?

[thorny hare]

Looks like a nice bean

It’s fresh anyways

[rare acorn]

cafe by the pier

[rare acorn]

and this

imagine a mocha, nutella as the chocolate, and cappuchino head

and black tar heroine sprinkled on top

[rare acorn]

thread revive

[thorny hare]

Been trying to do dark soy + water soap latte art

But I don’t think it’s exactly 1:1 with milk

So it’s a bit hard still

[merry arrow]

I perfected the latte art, just drink black coffee

[ripe musk]

(it’s just a long black)

[thorny hare]

Lovely

[rare acorn]

very

[thorny hare]

Is it bad of me to say that my bathroom pee visits have become so much more pleasant after consuming coffee these past couple months

Instead of piss it’s just coffee smell

So much better

[rare acorn]

lol

definitely a weird observation

maybe not the best neural-connection

can't say my pee smells like coffee myself but if it makes the bathroom experience better then it's good

drinking the peru geisha right now

also just realized I fucked up the recipe but that's okay

mandarin, high jasmine notes, tealike

for a $11/100g geisha it's not bad

[thorny hare]

Your pee never smells like coffee after drinking it????

What

[rare acorn]

maybe ive never noticed it

[rare acorn]

but I do know my room smells like coffee 24/7 @thorny hare

[thorny hare]

My kitchen too

[thorny hare]

Latte today

[rare acorn]

i havent used my flair in so long

open it up today, find a puck from 6 months ago

but today I made an iced latte from a geisha

if youve ever made a light roast filter-coffee latte before, it's exactly like that, no character, just sour

[haughty jungle]

[thorny hare]

Latte today

[rare acorn]

https://tenor.com/view/hell-yeah-brother-bradley-hall-heck-yes-nice-one-bro-gif-10060336513604262578

[thorny hare]

Me sometimes when I forget to empty my portafilter

[rare acorn]

I might go a little crazy and pick up a 58mm flair

I'm actually really into the flair taste profile

very punchy with the kinds of coffees that I'm extracting

and being 58mm will really legitimize my coffee game, 12-14g baskets just isn't enough espresso

[merry arrow]

The new meta is 49mm baskets

[lapis mantle]

wow that's TINY too bad if you want to make a ristretto.

[rare acorn]

decent dof

nice columbian

great vibes in this cafe tho

[lapis mantle]

Anyone on here using a Ember heated mug?

[haughty jungle]

Thicc

[haughty jungle]

Not going to lie, the cup doesn't seem too appetizing

Bet it tasted great though

I got the same coffee dosing cup/tray :D

[lapis mantle]

Cups without handles can be pretty awkward if poorly designed.

[merry arrow]

It’s a kinto cup. Feels good to me

[haughty jungle]

Eh, i have some glass double-walled ones, are just fine without handles

Not much to poorly design in a cup to be fair, the human hand is quite neat

[merry arrow]

I think he’s knocking my Americano tho and not the glass

[lapis mantle]

I'm pretty happy with the dosing tray I got. Though I do spritz the beans with a bit of distilled water to reduce static adhesion and because of this sometimes the beans can stick to the tray.

[haughty jungle]

That's neat

[haughty jungle]

Yeah, not really knocking it but the foam on top is putting me off

[merry arrow]

Yeah I do a spritz to reduce retention

[lapis mantle]

Foam, no foam - as long as it tastes good.

[haughty jungle]

Agree

[merry arrow]

It’s called crema

[lapis mantle]

The only unforgivable sin with foamed milk is going overtemperature while making it.

[merry arrow]

It’s not foam

It’s natural crema

[haughty jungle]

I know what crema is, but mine doesn't look as white as that when i make an americano or a long black

[merry arrow]

Different coffees produce different crema.

And how fresh they are after roast.

[lapis mantle]

Correct me if i'm wrong, but isn't crema volume also related to brewing pressure?

[haughty jungle]

Yeah.. i know.. but i haven't seen it that white yet

[haughty jungle]

Particular bean, how it's roasted, grind size, temperature and pressure

[lapis mantle]

So brewing pressure is just another element in a complicated puzzle.

[haughty jungle]

Yup

[merry arrow]

And what kind of beans do you drink

[haughty jungle]

Although if you're just starting out, probably not something you should worry about at first

[merry arrow]

Crema doesn’t impact taste by the way

Not in a meaningful way

[haughty jungle]

I tend to switch it around, try different ones, usually i order from a roaster that sends them out freshly roasted. If i had to pick any i currently like these ones quite a lot

If their arbitrary score means anything to you:

[merry arrow]

This one is light roasted Ethiopian

[haughty jungle]

That roasted has an etheopian coffee too, i didn't like it that much but it could be the specific bean

Bit too acidic for my taste, even when dialed in

If anything i like a coffee with a bit of a body to it, bit thicker

(for espresso)

Where do you get yours?

[merry arrow]

Cool, everyone has different tastes

[lapis mantle]

I used to drink this, despite the roasters marking it's actully roasted a bit lighter so I find it hard to get decent extraction with a French press.

For espresso, it's great tasting coffee though.

[haughty jungle]

Looks nice

[rare acorn]

sexy setup

love the mug

[thorny hare]

with a cigarette

[rare acorn]

I need a hut in the mountains with a view

[rare acorn]

does anyone here have an ascaso machine?

eyeing this one

$550 used, market puts it at about $1700 new

I'm also simultaneously eyeing a flair 58 gen4.5

[lapis mantle]

yeah but you'll also need a power hookup/gas connection to heat the damn water!

[rare acorn]

methane powered water heater

by cowfarts and rotting veggies, probably

[haughty jungle]

Very nice

[thorny hare]

danke

[rare acorn]

all for $80

struck gold lets see if I can secure it

[thorny hare]

Is this a juicer

[rare acorn]

its a grinder

[thorny hare]

Oh okay

Well I guess it looks like a coffee juicer then

Hurhurhurhur

[rare acorn]

look at this guy

read 5 minutes ago no answer

is this man making coffee to wake up?

it is 7:43am