covfefe nerds

[sharp iris]

i cant seem to do them right

[thorny hare]

i cant do any right tbh

that was by pure coincidence

every time i watch a tutorial, i forget it, and i just wing it

i just pour whatever and however my hands feel like it lol

[sharp iris]

getting the right texture isnt very consistent for me

[thorny hare]

yeah that too, im still learning to steam milk

sometimes not enough foam, sometimes too much

and also the angles n stuff

[lapis mantle]

Drinking is what good coffee is for.

[thorny hare]

just made 4x carmel lattes in a row

what the hell

why has it taken me this long

[sharp iris]

removing the spoon ruined the side but this is mostly what my cofi looks like

[lapis mantle]

Trying out some locally roasted Indian coffee.

I'm going to have to clean out my hand grinder when I make the switch to the new beans though.

[thorny hare]

my cofi looks like that sometimes

im shit at latte art

[lapis mantle]

As long as it tastes good I really don't care for aesthetics.

[thorny hare]

yeah

it tastes good so pretty much i dont care as much

but i still want to be able to do some sort of art

like a heart consistently is all i want kek

[lapis mantle]

Use a stencil if you have to.

[thorny hare]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bB7Ymvywm4s

[rare acorn]

Coffee.

[sharp iris]

coffee

[rare acorn]

Sitting lonely in the speciality filter-only place

Cause the batistas don't care

There's only two chairs in this entire place, and I'm seated in one of em

[sharp iris]

i like the wall of cofi bags

[rare acorn]

They don't accept cash, card, or crypto

[sharp iris]

pay in beans

[rare acorn]

So I had enough of exact to buy one cup

[sharp iris]

wait how tf do you pay

[rare acorn]

They only take the local equicalent of venmo

[sharp iris]

ohhh

dont know why i didnt think of that at all

[rare acorn]

I would try paying them in coffee beans if they'd accept

Cause I've got a bag of coffee

[sharp iris]

i didnt at all think of moni transfer apps

my mind was going down the path that they accept trading items

[rare acorn]

Pokémon cards for coffee

[sharp iris]

imagine tho

list of items they will accept:

some get you the nicer menu items

[rare acorn]

I might start a cafe like that in the middle of a random hiking trail

[sharp iris]

make people really question reality

[rare acorn]

Your most treasured and sentimental family heirloom for a nice Yunnan Geisha

[sharp iris]

its the kind of shit i pull in dnd games

genuinely a thing on my idea list, random little store that doesnt accept currency

[rare acorn]

Sucks I can't pay anymore cause I don't have venmo

And I'm out of local currency

[sharp iris]

rip

[rare acorn]

So I'm basically cut off

Walked half an hour from the airport to get here lol

Omw home so I'm stopping by for a coffee layover

We've found a way, I can order from the UberEats equivalent and get it for pickup and charge my card from that

Worse for them cause platform fees, but it works

[rare acorn]

I have received more coffee

[sharp iris]

and kek

[rare acorn]

The heavens have heard my harrowing

Its actually a really interesting combo

A slightly green apple-y traditional iced espresso (Thai style iykyk) paired with a fudged up marshmello chocolate crumble

So the kek is really dark with pockets of chew and the espresso tastes like someone spilled coffee into a fruitshake

[sharp iris]

sounds really nice

[vital spoke]

I did not know i needed this

[thorny hare]

What do they accept lmfao

[thorny hare]

Oh

[rare acorn]

coffee was nice tho

one of the most confusingly good cold filters I've had

they appeared to just do a normal drip in super super ice cold coffee gear with no ice

then they put a little cube of ice into a cup and poured the drip over it

and it was perfect???

witchcraft, cold drip is one hell of a trial by fire to get right

[vital spoke]

Starbucks reserve got 3 new beans, will try them this week

[rare acorn]

how is starbucks reserve actually

I've never bought starbucks reserve cause of many reasons but I do know they've got a pretty decent collection of green beans

[vital spoke]

Here in Turkey i find it at least 2 times better than normal Starbucks

They have their own reserve* beans and reserve seasonal beans, better machines and some intellectual brewing techniques

They have reserve special products like madagascar vanilla latte here

Which i enjoy a lot

Also reserves baristas are FAR more better than normal ones

[rare acorn]

better machines?

you buy it preground?

or you mean the roasting machine

[rare acorn]

on this trip I kinda went all out

bought a box of competitive filters, a box of 50 for like, $7

came with a recipe on the box

15g, 240ml,

50ml --30s--> 50ml --30s--> 60 --30s--> 80

tastes pretty good on this Columbian

also looking into this, if anyone has experience

cafec deep 27, capable of microbrews (5-8g)

for when you get 20g of a panama geisha you sold your house and cat for, and want to drink it more than once/one way

i've also learned throughout the years how important preheating actually is

so today I almost burned my house down preheating the glass dripper,
my plastic kitchen kettle almost melted after I superheated water

https://buymeacoffee.com/wispcream if anyone wants to donate to the Fellow Stagg EKG fund

[vital spoke]

I was talking about just buying coffee not beans, and their coffee machines

But in every aspect it is better

[rare acorn]

Starbucks makes coffee machines? thought they just licensed them in stores

[vital spoke]

@rare acorn u ok

[rare acorn]

Yeah what's up

@vital spoke

[vital spoke]

I remember you being in Thailand?

There was an earthquake in myanmar, since you guys are next to each other

wanted to ask

[rare acorn]

yeah kinda

but I'm almost 1500km away from the affected area, I'm chill

thanks for asking tho

[lapis mantle]

I seriously doubt they make them, the most likely scenario is that they are just a rebrand from some other manufacturer.

This indian coffee I've been brewing with tastes great, but it is by far the messiest I have ever had to work with. Grinding it in my hand grinder is so messy even if I do spritz the beans with some water beforehand, I never had that issue with Brazillian or Columbian coffee.

[rare acorn]

https://youtu.be/8itWVd14VQI

[rare acorn]

kettle

I want a fellow stagg EKG but idk if I wanna pay fellow stagg EKG prices

[vital spoke]

Do i need to buy some good kettle or just normals do ok

[thorny hare]

Yeah the kettle he named is very good for pourover

He’s brought it up before

This isn’t the second time 😭

[vital spoke]

bro thats like VERY EXPENSIVE

[rare acorn]

You don't need anything

I've made the same coffee taste the same with two very very different grades of kettle

I'm just looking to make it more convenient to maintain the workflow

[rare acorn]

oh yeah

a local cafe in Phuket won Thailand's Barista cup

lol they got a picture of the guy infront of their main location

[sharp iris]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=20HxMMSqRyg

he did latte art video

[vital spoke]

Can i buy 3rd party portafilter for my old semi auto espresso machine

If so i will immediately

[rare acorn]

yeah, theyre basically standard

just make sure you get one that fits

[thorny hare]

yay

hoffman latte art

[rare acorn]

Man

I wanna buy kettle, but also wanna buy laptop

My face when a kettle is as expensive as a damn modern 11th gen intel core laptop

[sharp iris]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=epIgulaBryA

if you guys arent doing this you dont even like coffee

[rare acorn]

kopi hoffman

new channel banner

[sharp iris]

perfect

[vital spoke]

[sullen lotus]

@thorny hare

whats this

[thorny hare]

No idea

[sullen lotus]

looks to be some weird brewing method

[thorny hare]

Looks somewhat similar to Turkish coffee

If you’ve ever seen that

Cool video

[sullen lotus]

ye i have seen those

[thorny hare]

I haven’t made coffee in a week, been busy

Probably next week

[rare acorn]

siphoning

it's one of the old traditionally "fancy" coffee techniques

it's got the taste profile of like a french press, but much cleaner, and much more of a hassle to get right

[rare acorn]

it's the same method you see in this photo lol

only the most prestigious and soughtafter coffee bars have siphon,
cause it's such a time consuming process for something most people wouldn't notice in comparison to your typical filter/frenchpress coffee

[sullen lotus]

interesting, i was at a starbucks reserve at meguro river

shits cool

[sullen lotus]

they roast in house and all too

[rare acorn]

Starbucks is different tho

They do it cause they can

Just straight ballers

Literally have 0 reason to roast in-house other than for show

Cause roasted coffee smells like spoilt milk and burning sawdust

[rare acorn]

I used my coffee so precisely

that I had 10g left

so I came up with a new recipe

and I think I might just be a genius

wish more people here did filter/pourover so they actually understand anything I say

[vital spoke]

Gonna buy some beans today

[thorny hare]

@rare acorn you liked Yirgacheff?

There’s a lot of choice here

Apparently this is probably the best coffee spot

@rare acorn help me out whenever you’re online

What beans to get

Probably can’t see shit in the photos

It’s okay tho

I’ll try Yirgacheffe for a week

Every Sunday this cafe does one slice of pie and a batch drip coffee for £6.50

And apparently the line is out the door

[deft barn]

what the hell

well time to start posting beans™️

[ripe musk]

👋

just realized i did not drink coffee today and thats probably why I’m wiped at 5pm

[lapis mantle]

I've had the Colombian coffee before, intrigued to try their darker blended signature roast of multiple origins Brazil/Kenya/Colombia.

[rare acorn]

love yirga as a daily coffee for Americano and filter

probably not a go-to for Espresso and Milk-based

[thorny hare]

oh no

bought the wrong beans

fuck

[rare acorn]

I curse you with: infinite Americano

[rare acorn]

how is it

[thorny hare]

Yeah I tried an espresso shot and it’s

INSANELY

Fruity

So probably infinite Americanos yeah

😵‍💫

[rare acorn]

can't go wrong with a nice blueberry crumble and hot coffee, that slice looks immaculate

[thorny hare]

That was a raspberry cream pie

It was banger

I want to go next Sunday again

[rare acorn]

Right now im in a dangerous spot, I've got a pamphlet with me with the 28 locations of cafes in Phuket that are in this little group that do cool coffee events, and when I go to about 19 I get a shirt

I've gone and spent about $10-15 on coffee and cakes in 4 locations so far and I've only got the map for a week lol

[thorny hare]

that free t shirt and exploration

you must do it

its the experience that matters

if its a bad idea, it makes a great story

[ripe musk]

this sounds sick

vietnamese phin coffee for me and v60 for partner

[rare acorn]

very nice phin dripper

I'm decluttering my setup soon, and implementing a stagg

[deft barn]

Market lane enjoyer spotted

[ripe musk]

cannot deny

[thorny hare]

i make a few americanos with yirgacheffe

gosh its so sweet

heckity split

interesting

[rare acorn]

nice

that's why I like yirga, you could probably give it to a non-coffee drinker

[thorny hare]

yeah

[rare acorn]

very tea-like, sweet, nice on the palette

[thorny hare]

ill get yirgacheffe for my friend who doesnt like coffee

he likes tea yeah

[rare acorn]

subtle complexities of mandarin skin and pear

very Pu-er

[rare acorn]

I'm converting someone atm

took them to like, 3 cafes in a row

started off with the sweetest coffee drink you could get (sparkling orange Americano)

then somewhere along the lines went with an iced latte non-sweet

all tastes the same apparently, but very different to me lol

@thorny hare you should try a Laos Bolavan

[thorny hare]

sparkling orange americano?

the heck

[thorny hare]

i can get him to try an iced caramel latte with yirgacheffe

it would be very fruity and sweet

[rare acorn]

I know a place, very near me

death of the coffee hater type place

[thorny hare]

lmfao

what is this combo

oh no

[rare acorn]

look at this

lemon drop espressos

and elderflower Americanos

[thorny hare]

lemon drop

espresso

[thorny hare]

and garnished with coffee beans

fuck me

fuck

[rare acorn]

very nice menu items

oh yeah this is the stamping thing I was talking about

I'm on 4 stamps atm

[thorny hare]

they must be popular

i mean

very interesting

but

[rare acorn]

very fusion

what about you, how does your local cafe look @thorny hare

[thorny hare]

i dont have anything remotely to what that is

but if we had one

i think its an untapped market

[thorny hare]

you guys too fancy

[rare acorn]

it's a caramel macchiato I believe

[thorny hare]

i like peach iced tea

[rare acorn]

that's actually an Ethiopian

[rare acorn]

this is a tattoo parlour, the downstairs is a musical lounge and DJing center that they serve coffee in

I swear every time I go the shop is renovated, they move the furniture everyday

new place that just opened who do pretty good filter

[thorny hare]

why does it look like tea

[rare acorn]

this is like, a Guatamalean Geisha

[thorny hare]

seriously

the worse we got is

a cafe is downstairs to the church which owns it upstairs

[rare acorn]

it's light, and they grind it with an Maelkonig

[thorny hare]

the church upstairs is like the church's office

[rare acorn]

Maelkonig just makes tea-like brews, very sweet and succulent

[thorny hare]

right

[rare acorn]

that's pretty cool

[thorny hare]

they sell some okay beans

[sharp iris]

this looks real nice

could use that right about now

[rare acorn]

oh yeah dont know if I've showed this

Nana coffee roasters

[thorny hare]

what kind of cafe is that

woah

[rare acorn]

it's a roastery

[thorny hare]

stags

ohhhhhh

[rare acorn]

they've got like, 4 staggs

and 7 maelkonig ek43's

and 3 other grinders

[thorny hare]

i wish we had that

[rare acorn]

very very very rich

I wanna say they supply for half of the popular cafes in thailand

one of the biggest green coffee banks in Thailand, they've probably got kilos of geisha at the back

some other photos that I wasn't the taker of

[rare acorn]

nothing beats a nice fruity iced Americano with smoked salmon on a brioche butter croissant

[sharp iris]

jealous

oh did i tell you guys about my funny plan to do a coffee related physics project

vaguely coffee related

[rare acorn]

another location of theirs, they've got 3 locations I think in Bangkok

[sharp iris]

didn't happen but still fun idea imo and it would have been so good

[rare acorn]

what is it?

oh man

I should fly over and take pics

[sharp iris]

one of the options for our first year project was to make a thermometer with liquid crystals, i wanted to make one for my milk pitcher

then i find out that the break room in the uni area with physics labs has a coffee club

it would have been so good

[ripe musk]

i was here last year its such a cute cafe!!!!

[rare acorn]

nice

so many nice roasters to visit

[rare acorn]

you can still do it ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[ripe musk]

the japanese pour over coffee culture heading into the rest of SEA is so good

[thorny hare]

should i try get a geisha

is it good for espresso

[ripe musk]

vietnam is insane for coffee now too imo

[rare acorn]

another roaster

[rare acorn]

no

[sharp iris]

no not really lol i cant just fuck around in the labs for funsies, i would need to do some project that's at least using liquid crystals

[rare acorn]

infinite Americano, but mostly infinite filter

you can try an Ethiopian Galena Geisha

or a Gori Geisha

it's technically a Geisha, and probably the most produced

I only recommend it cause it's cheap in-comparison to what most people refer to as Geisha

about $15 for a 200g bag here, you could probably fetch one for that overthere

[thorny hare]

[rare acorn]

in comparison to like a Panama Geisha, which is closer to $1 per gram

oh man

that's such a gorgeous shot

so non-symmetric it's nauseating, but good nonetheless

[rare acorn]

don't think I've been to a cafe here that does filter and doesn't have a stagg

[rare acorn]

Batali, M. E., La Plante, D., Harwood, W. S., & Vinson, D. R. (2020).
Title: The Effect of Brewing Temperature on Coffee Characteristics

this is mindbreaking

research saying lower temperature actually has more definition than high temperature

low temperature in this case being 87 and high being 93

this is crazy? why is no one talking about this?

[ripe musk]

WHAT

i will try brewing in that range today

[trail lintel]

Hi fellow coffee nerds! I’m so excited to share my latte I bought, they ran out of lids

Happy Thursday

[ripe musk]

update: tastes just as good, i am not sure my palette is good enough to recognize taste differences brewed at 90*ish but its definitely a but more acidic and its brought out the nectarine a bit more

[rare acorn]

https://youtu.be/E5DEi3QTR3Q

[rare acorn]

immaculate foam

drinking like, a terrible failure of a drip of a 2 month old bean

yet it's still decent

still juicy, still got like, 65% of the characteristics of the coffee, tastes a little stale, a little old, a little funky, maybe a hint of post-process anaerobic-ness

[rare acorn]

its talking about differences from cups brewed at different temperatures
not necessarily of coffee at certain temperatures

youd have to make coffee with boiling water to achieve a final temperature of 90c lol

[ripe musk]

ohhh i get you now also skimmed through the paper instead of just the image lol

that tracks

[quiet fable]

hi ig

[rare acorn]

yeah

[rare acorn]

really tho it's an interesting topic

cause people brew with higher or lower temps to extract more coffee

but if you end up extracting the same amount as measured by strength of the PE test or the TDS test, then temperature basically made no difference

[quiet fable]

TMI for me

[rare acorn]

if you can brew faster and still extract the exact same coffee with hotter water, it should taste the same as a slower colder brew extracted to the same metrics

[rare acorn]

we're talking about this paper

Batali, M. E., La Plante, D., Harwood, W. S., & Vinson, D. R. (2020).
Title: The Effect of Brewing Temperature on Coffee Characteristics

[quiet fable]

how cold are we talkin?

[rare acorn]

about how coffee made at a lower-than-normal temperature tastes the same as a coffee made at a higher-than-normal temperature if all other variables are the same

[rare acorn]

cold relative to what "normal" is

[quiet fable]

10-20C?

[rare acorn]

"normal" would be about 90c?
"cold" would be 87c
"hot" would be 95c

[quiet fable]

or dew point at 20c?

im not ready for this conversation

[rare acorn]

but traditionally brewing coffee at anything lower than say 92c would make it taste really bad

[quiet fable]

then how is cold brew a thing?

[rare acorn]

people just call it cold brew

in reality it's just hot water put in a fridge for 12 hours

its cold once you drink it, which is why its cold brew

but really it doesnt matter if it was hot or cold to start with

[quiet fable]

for maximum caffeine, which brew should i get?

[rare acorn]

light roast

people think dark roast means more caffeine

but when you roast coffee, you also literally burn away the caffeine

maximum caffeine is green coffee, but we're not lemurs, so we can't really eat raw coffee

[quiet fable]

pour over or espresso or what?

[rare acorn]

in between

you want immersion brewing, like french press

that's maximum caffeine

or technically a lungo is maximum caffeine, but it's also the least drinkable form of coffee

[quiet fable]

how so?

[rare acorn]

a lungo is an espresso that you put too much water through

[quiet fable]

i wonder what would happen if you brew in a vaccum chamber and cycle it

[rare acorn]

so it extracts the undesirable things you dont normally get out of espresso

all from the same amount of raw coffee bean

I know a guy who drinks almost exclusively lungo because he drinks capsule coffee

and capsules have 9-10g of coffee to start with

and when you pull a lungo you can get upto 80ml or sometimes 120 if you go hard in the paint

so pulling 120ml of liquid from 10g of coffee

that's... about 100ml too much liquid

and within that 100ml, maybe 10ml is proper "coffee"

the rest of it, the 90ml, is just bean water that tastes of burnt and stale

there's beans that you can get that are actually made to brew lungo and they're great, I would say the best "machine" coffee I've had was a well-brewed lungo

but most do it poorly, and it tastes piss poor because of it

but anyways, welcome to the #1313935395502948352 lounge, where most of it is just me rambling for too long and the rest of the gang popping in to showcase the actually cool stuff @quiet fable

[quiet fable]

interesting

[rare acorn]

@ripe musk I have made coffee with like, 80c water

[ripe musk]

i love it here

[rare acorn]

and it's tasted absolutely bland

no dimension

I wonder if I have to do it again if using high TDS water and absolutely going ham in the agitation, if it'll help

cause sometimes when youre camping you cant really help it, hot water is hard to come by

lots of things are hard to come by in camping

like a level surface to drip on lol

had to drip on some crazy slants cause it was either that or the uneven forest floor

[ripe musk]

F

[rare acorn]

hard enough to drip with cold water as it is and an uneven pouring sprout that chokes your brew with fines

[ripe musk]

feels like a moka pot and gas mate would be my go to for camping or just brewing ahead of time and copping a progressively cold coffee as the days progress

[rare acorn]

absolutely unnecessary amounts of pain, but that's what makes the best coffee

a friend of mine swears the best coffee I ever made was made in total darkness at 2 in the morning on a mountain

[ripe musk]

huge the vibes would have been immaculate though hey

[rare acorn]

the vibes is half the flavor

recall that night very vividly

was about to sleep in the tent but couldn't cause the mountain had no wind, and I set up my tent on an ant hill

so ended up packing 6-7 in the morning and just going home restless

10/10, would do it again

[ripe musk]

that sounds chaotic and fun in equal measures

dont think ive genuinely gone camping outside of festivals and i just have like a vacuumed sealed thermos of coffee for the weekend or buy coffee from the cart

also mental noting to get the coffee mentioned above that tastes like pu-er

[rare acorn]

vacuum sealed thermos would not last with my group

[ripe musk]

tbh ive only been back on coffee recently mainly because of my trip to vietnam but i generally drink puer in the morning

[rare acorn]

we drink coffee at every oppotunity

I took like, 7 different beans on a trip once

brewed for a dozen people

[rare acorn]

I was in vietnam for a month

[ripe musk]

just for the love of the tame

game

based

[rare acorn]

even went to the vietnamese coffee capital

and experienced the yearly coffee festival lol

[ripe musk]

oh wild how recently ago and how’d you find it?

[rare acorn]

I left Vietnam basically 3 weeks ago

so the coffee festival is like, 5 weeks ago from this date

[ripe musk]

was it mainly vietnamese coffee or did you get a mix of like pour over and espresso based coffee too

[rare acorn]

idk honestly, I had every coffee I could get my hands on

but I took a liking to their coconut coffee

Vietnam loves their condensed milk tho, in their coffee

but it was in Thành phố Buôn Ma Thuột, the coffee festival

[ripe musk]

i was like why is it there and then saw trung nguyen coffee village in the pic and yeah makes sense

[ripe musk]

i love the salted version of their condensed milk coffee

but the coconut coffee also goes hard

[rare acorn]

yeah, where it all began

Lang Ca Phe Trang Nyugen

[ripe musk]

have you been to melbourne before

[rare acorn]

no

[ripe musk]

i think we’re supposed to be known from years ago as the coffee capital of the world and i feel like its nowhere near anymore

[rare acorn]

weird, why would it be Melbourne

[ripe musk]

no idea

[rare acorn]

I only know of a few things that Melbourne invented in coffee, like whatever the Double Ristretto Magic is

but otherwise most things people know as modern coffee nowadays was conceived elsewhere

[ripe musk]

every cafe is pretty enthusiastic about the beans they use and have pretty switched on baristas but i feel like its very espresso centric and it doesn’t do a whole lot outside of that

[rare acorn]

like South Korea's Dalgona coffee

[ripe musk]

there will be the odd pour over coffee spot and even then RARELY will they do something interesting, it just feels like we’re in a time capsule from a decade ago

[rare acorn]

or Japan's mastery of instant coffee

truly a gift to the world

[ripe musk]

honestly

[ripe musk]

the boss flash brew is fantastic

[rare acorn]

drip bags are a Japanese invention I think

[ripe musk]

not surprised

[rare acorn]

unless they're keeping it lowkey in Melbourne, I don't hear too much of what goes on there

[ripe musk]

so hard to find good drip bags a lot of the ones sold here like … fall into your brewing cup and you cant actually extract it properly unless you have like a tall drinking glass

i am not explaining well

[ripe musk]

yeah not a whole lot happening tbh

[rare acorn]

you can grab a bag of the ones you put your own coffee in

some you can like, prefill, or something

in Thailand drip bags are becoming pretty popular, even commercialized in convenience stores

[ripe musk]

sick

[rare acorn]

or real real speciality drip bags

$2 per bag for this

a very very very tasty local brew

roasted by a legend

[quiet fable]

ive been to melbourne before, i am not nerdy enough to tell the differance

[rare acorn]

one of the giftsets of all time

a Geisha, a Jamaican Blue mountain, a Chiang Mai Moonstone

very very cool

[ripe musk]

i think the best coffee experience ive had was in thailand actually, slowcoffee?? in ko samui

[rare acorn]

if a place has good coffee, a good vibe, and maybe good bakery, then its a good cafe

doesnt have to be objectively good

[ripe musk]

they did this pourover and before serving they threw it in this aerator into a whiskey glass

[rare acorn]

reminds me

[ripe musk]

and was unlike anything ive ever had before taste wise

[rare acorn]

had this today let me show you a pic

this is a Shaken Yuzu Coffee soda

real Yuzu lemons, cold brew, aerated like a cocktail

very very punchy

[ripe musk]

holy SHIT

yeah we’ll be lucky to get a slice of fruit anywhere here in our pourovers

meanwhile

[rare acorn]

missed focus the tip of this quesadilla, but also had a nice Laos-Thai-Ethiopian Americano houseblend

[ripe musk]

this country hates change to the status quo lol its so boring

[rare acorn]

better picture of the coffee

that's a solid solid aerated layer of foam

vibe of the place

[ripe musk]

looks so so good

[rare acorn]

lots going on in the filter department

very very lowkey place that I found because I have a map of places I have to go to lol

this nice shot I got

gotta clean it up then I can post it to all 10 of my social media followers

[ripe musk]

hate how much i love croffles

i would spend all day there if i had a day off

[rare acorn]

it's like, a diner-style place with a coffee bar, and they do Mexican and Fusion

interesting combo for a cafe lol, but there's no rules

check this custard cake tho

[ripe musk]

lyeah if you execute it well no one cares right

[rare acorn]

oh yeah, heres the interior of that coffee museum

array of phin drippers

[ripe musk]

we almost went on our trip last year but couldn’t fit it in!!

looks like a must go for next time

[quiet fable]

i just had the extreamly dumb idea for a "contemporary artwork" where a robot dispenses water from a 10Ul micropipette into a V60

i wonder how much i can launder money from it

[ripe musk]

i would genuinely go to an art gallery to see this piece

[quiet fable]

got a fanuc robot i could borrow?

[rare acorn]

ehhh, kinda overrated

[ripe musk]

no :<

[rare acorn]

but it's something cool to look at

300k VND entry fee tho

and the coffee inside is lesser than I expected

the 3 cafes at the entrance of the museum had good coffee tho lol

the cafes in the town are pretty good, some opening til like, midnight

[ripe musk]

its a shame its not in one of the major cities j think making a full trip out there for a museum is a hard ask

[rare acorn]

well, I did it on a bike

it was... something

[ripe musk]

sick

[rare acorn]

from Nha Trang

nha trang -> coffee museum, not so bad

[quiet fable]

road bike?

[rare acorn]

coffee museum -> dalat, nightmarish adventure

[rare acorn]

hahaha, no

[quiet fable]

awww

[rare acorn]

Asian scooters

[ripe musk]

ohhh

[rare acorn]

the bike I took

( dont take a scooter )

the roads are very mountaineous on the way to Da lat

and it's a 4-5 hour ride through unfinished roads

[ripe musk]

cant imagine rhey are very well lit either

[rare acorn]

I had to drive through a rainstorm for a hundred kilometers

in unlit roads and no moon

[ripe musk]

jfc

omg

[rare acorn]

all up the mountain with no people lol

very very extreme

did it solo too

[ripe musk]

thats so turbo

love it

[rare acorn]

would've been more chill if I was on a 350cc roadbike with 4 high beam LEDs in the front

but my scooter barely had a flourescent bulb to begin with

I actually have a timelapse of one part of the trip on an Insta360 which I had strapped on my backpack propped up by a selfie stick while I rode

but heres some instagram photos instead of the trip

gas station photo, for the road

[ripe musk]

love those gas station photos

[rare acorn]

fireworks they set off at the end of the coffee festival

mountains of Da Lat

[ripe musk]

rainstorm aside the weather looks so lovely you did well

[rare acorn]

rainstorm came out of nowhere

this was the calm before the storm

oh yeah while I'm still on my instagram

[ripe musk]

sounds about right

[rare acorn]

passionfruit soda coffee

$2.7 for this bad boy

[ripe musk]

looks so good

[rare acorn]

$2 cappuchino

[ripe musk]

i swear to god that thing costs $8usd if you could find it here

[rare acorn]

seahorse

this cafe won this year's Barista cup

[ripe musk]

CUTE

[rare acorn]

well deserved

[ripe musk]

i still get funny looks when i tell people that my fav coffees to order involve like a shot of espresso ice tonic water and some kind of fruit

actually vietnamese coffee is a better substitute for espresso i find because of the natural sweetness

but yeah asia seems the spot for it

[rare acorn]

hard to comprehend what this tastes like when youve had lattes and Americanos all your life

cant be drinking hot lattes all day when the weather's already hot

[ripe musk]

yeah no kidding

its summer suns out days beautiful have a bit of fun

like ???

[quiet fable]

i'd be down to try this

[rare acorn]

lol

Thailand's crazy

[ripe musk]

if you come down i will personally make you things like this

[ripe musk]

LOL

[rare acorn]

cannabis is legal, so fuck it, why not put it in coffee

[quiet fable]

come down where? down south? down under?

[ripe musk]

melbourne i will make u and lex coffee :))) (invite applies to all !!!)

[quiet fable]

rip wallet

[ripe musk]

just get super wired before u get high

[ripe musk]

reminds me of this place in cambodia where i thought weed was illegal but happy pizza have thc in their pizza and operates legally???

was also funny going to dispensaries and they wojld give you a free joint if you left a 5 star review

[quiet fable]

i'd rather keep with my meth tyvm

[ripe musk]

extremely northern territory voice:

[quiet fable]

not joking

[ripe musk]

i dont doubt that

[quiet fable]

methylphenadate ring a bell?

[ripe musk]

completely unrelated to coffee but my friend in darwin runs like an annual ayahuasca festival

[quiet fable]

i had to look that up lmao

[ripe musk]

also i want to go up one year for the laksa festival

but ill shut up and take it back to australian lounge

[vital spoke]

It is so strange for me to see people do drugs legal or illegal lul

Even coffee sometimes feel like i am an addict

which i am

[quiet fable]

ritalin does almost nothing to me, i need to talk to my doctor about it

[vital spoke]

Anyways i bought 3 different beans from tchibo today

[vital spoke]

Never had any smoking things or pill shaped things

[quiet fable]

not even panadol?

[vital spoke]

whats panadol

[quiet fable]

paracetamol

[vital spoke]

ah

i was talking about drugs not drugs

[quiet fable]

ritalin is both a drug and drug

[vital spoke]

I had a med student friend i know...

Starbucks here released lavender matcha latte

[quiet fable]

whats the command for itallics again?

ittalics

ah

[vital spoke]

Both i don't like...

these are the seasonal coffees at the moment of starbucks here

[quiet fable]

starbucks is only down south

[vital spoke]

Spanish is just condensed milk+latte

[quiet fable]

we got jack shit up here

[vital spoke]

[deft barn]

Whenever I'm in Melb I'm always picking up at least 2 bags from em

[ripe musk]

can’t go wrong

their brunswick store is behind a great bagel shop and i go wjth my partner when she needs new beans just to get a bagel too hehe

[rare acorn]

this reminds me

the BEST coffee that I ever had

competition Panama Geisha

hundreds of dollars a bag

my guy just had a bag, sold me a serving for $8, normally a serving would be $30 minimum?

real friend, still know him, works at a cafe near me now, that popup cafe in which he served me was shortlasting

he served me the coffee, tasted like the vivid imagination of Lavender and Wisteria

crazy day, super super experimental place

[vital spoke]

WHAT IN THE WORLD DEMON SLAYER IS THIS

[rare acorn]

man

good coffee just stays good idk man

I have a month old bean here that was basically grocery store, didnt last my impromptu trip abroad

but I just finished off my 2-3 month old bean that kept decently well

shows that even the most standard coffee pouch bag with CO2 valves keeps coffee good

[rare acorn]

I yearn for the coffee

but coffee is no 😦

[rare acorn]

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DINo6i2p6UU

danboermancomedy

Another victim to the Melbourne coffee scene #melbourne #comedy #melbournecomedy #fyp #fitzroy #melbournecomedyfestival

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[thorny hare]

what is this? tea?

[rare acorn]

iced americano

burger king sells an iced americano for 87cents here

[thorny hare]

its cheap but is it any good

[rare acorn]

you know what

it's pretty solid

the roast is a little rough, tastes like a medium-dark

but definitely not burnt, very little flavor of anything identifiable, but for a fast foot chain and $0.87, it's pretty decent

I could definitely see people liking this, it's definitely a traditional "coffee" taste

[thorny hare]

for 90c i think you cant argue right

i think if its coffee, and then it works

then you're good

so applause for bk

[rare acorn]

I mean

when I was chowing down on my whopper the coffee tasted pretty good

I'd argue bitterness is not a bad thing, you just have to balance it out

if that coffee was any sweeter and fruitier I wouldn't have noticed it was coffee, probably just water

so, a very circumstantial taste profile that works with it's parts

tasting it after the fact revealed the taste I described here, but in the moment, it was a pretty good coffee

context: I had it with this meal

[rare acorn]

I mean

you really cant

cause I tried to get something from McDonalds the other day

and they want like, $3 for a coffee

that's more than like, 80% of world class cafes in the area

[thorny hare]

like an asahi beer

with dinner

[rare acorn]

yeah, it's like an asahi

[thorny hare]

cool

[thorny hare]

New bean

Apparently this one is very fruity and sweet

[rare acorn]

Roast?

Its a Honduras, so likely also infinite Americano

@thorny hare

[thorny hare]

The barista told me this is good for espresso

[rare acorn]

What ethnicity and cultural background did the Barista have

More importantly have you tried it in a milk drink yet

I'm about to board my flight to China

Hoping to bring back a few good bags of Yunnan DF

[thorny hare]

White and white

[thorny hare]

No because it was roasted yesterday lol

Gonna have to wait a week and a half

[rare acorn]

You run out of the other bean yet?

[thorny hare]

nope

i still have a bit of square mile

and yirgacheffe

[rare acorn]

Red brick?

I should try ordering some coffee from abroad

Cause I went to a few cafes in the capital and they had all of these super cool Berlin roasters and British

So I can actually experience some of the same things others experience

[thorny hare]

yeah

[deft barn]

If y'all in the UK, would highly rec Scenery

[thorny hare]

UK has a lot of roasters and local beans

like just around me i have endless amounts of local beans to choose from

its nice

these guys are in London it seems

[deft barn]

They're my personal favourite I've tried out of the UK

I know the owner personally so, a bit of bias there but I genuinely think he sources good greens and roasts them well

[thorny hare]

hey, thats fair

[thorny hare]

i think i have somewhat learned how to steam milk consistently

10 seconds of bubbles

then down under

it looks too smooth but when you let it settle it thickens up

[deft barn]

Steaming milk is a whole lot of trial and error

tbh i'm glad I learnt it as a barista on the company's expenses rather than my own

once you get the gist of it, you should be able to steam milk on any half decent machine

[eager sun]

Tried to capture a pour of some milk in my cold brew a few weeks ago and learned it was really good at multitasking.

I was able to trigger the camera with the remote, miss my pour, and make a big mess down the side of the glass, all at the same time

[thorny hare]

Would be a nice one to spam the shutter

[eager sun]

I kinda did, but i was using a strobe, so I was dependent on recycle time. I think next time I'll just use black card to control reflections and use constant light

[thorny hare]

Sounds great

I wish I had enough room to do this

I’ve always wanted to do product photos

[eager sun]

You may be surprised how little room you need, this was done on a two foot section of my kitchen counter and my tripod was setup about 1 foot in front of the cabinets.

[quiet fable]

reminds me on the led on strobe that was so powerful you can hear it

[thorny hare]

me when i just went to the shop and forgot to buy milk

and ive been drinking americanos for 2 days straight

[rare acorn]

you're seeing the light

both metaphorically and physically... lots and lots of light roast

[thorny hare]

I mean

It’s pretty good actually

So I don’t mind

[rare acorn]

@thorny hare hows the new coffee

[thorny hare]

Haven’t tried it yet

It’s freshly roasted

So I’m gonna wait a week

[rare acorn]

ok

[thorny hare]

But probably infinite americanos

[rare acorn]

wdym

[thorny hare]

Didn’t you mention the beans were only good for filter or something

[thorny hare]

This one

[rare acorn]

well, they've got the desirable traits for an Americano or a filter

you don't usually buy a "grape" bean to have with straight milk, you might have it with milk AND jam/some other addition

but it might be good with milk, who knows

one of my favorite combinations on a latte is like, a green grape guava heavy bean

gives it like a sour yogurt kind of feel

but maybe that's just me and I'm being weird

[thorny hare]

Right

[thorny hare]

Okay I’ll give it a try anyways, probably like in 3-4 days time

[rare acorn]

cause I know a place that makes the best light roast lattes that they mix with different sodas

big thing in Asia

[thorny hare]

[thorny hare]

I could get into an untapped market bro

Start my own coffee soda business

[rare acorn]

👀

[deft barn]

coffee soda slaps

but you need to be very intentional with your coffee choice to turn it into soda

some coffees work, others are gonna have a violent and horrible reaction to it

[ripe musk]

i find it works much more effectively with tonic water than sparkling water when i make em

esp vietnamese beans and their natural sweetness and chocolate-y notes mixing super well with the tonic water sweetness

[thorny hare]

tonic water is bitter tho

[deft barn]

I've found the most success with washed central/south american coffees that are roasted dead medium

[lofty cairn]

Heilo

Anyone been drinkin standout la papayo from colombia? Smackin' stuff

[rare acorn]

no, but I have just picked up an Ethiopian Heirloom

also check this out

speciality coffee vending machine by a local cafe

[lofty cairn]

From standout?

[thorny hare]

must get milk today

[lofty cairn]

Its been a while since i got some bangin beans tbh. standout's def top 5 roasters ive tasted but prodigal and B&W are so much tastier its like some other league. But then again I haven't really tasted the expensive standout beans yet. I bet their geshas are great too

[rare acorn]

no, where's that from?

[lofty cairn]

They're a roaster from netherlands

What roaster are you talking about?

[rare acorn]

local roaster from Thailand

[lofty cairn]

Noice can you please give me roaster reccomendations? I have no idea about roasters in south east asia. I usually only drink filter coffee made in a v60 so light roasts pls :)

[rare acorn]

dont know if it would even be economical to order from so far away if youre in Europe lol

but I would probably start off with the stuff you are very unlikely to find outside of Thailand

these are all including Thai blends, which are rarely sent outside of Thailand

some of my the most reliable beans I've had

the daily is probably Sanchai's Estate between the 4

Moonstone Masterpiece is about $2 a serving, so maybe not an everyday cup

[lofty cairn]

Ah no I am in india, I try getting foreign coffee from friends who visit haha. So I'll put your reccs in a list and when someone ik visits thailand I'll ask them to bring me some

[lofty cairn]

Noice bag

Thanks for the recommendations!

[vital spoke]

SB here has something called spanish latte

which is just a latte with more foam and condensed milk in bottom

I love it tho lul

[rare acorn]

coffee lounge getting the premium POV footage

[thorny hare]

i made an americano from that bean @rare acorn

its sweeter than yirgacheffe

wtf

[rare acorn]

makes sense

yirga is sweet but definitely "coffee"-y

[thorny hare]

yeah

[rare acorn]

wonder if there's a coffee from honduras that ISNT sweet

this is a Honduras Catuai that they name the Whisky blend

basically the sweetest coffee I've ever had, tastes like vanilla bean and whisky

I was hoping this bean you got wasn't going to be sweet cause it's not a Catuai

[thorny hare]

whiskey blend

[rare acorn]

it's fine for a one off

[thorny hare]

its okay, i like americanos

[rare acorn]

I never got around to finishing the bag tho cause it wasn't really what I was after

[lofty cairn]

Maybe it's the cam angle but it looks like youre going up and down while pouring in a circle, if you pour from a fixed height while keeping the flow rate more or less the same you could get brighter tastier cups. Going up and down while going clockwise messes up flow rate and agitation across the bed potentially leading to weird extractions, just a suggestion.

[lofty cairn]

I have this archers honduras thats mangos, cherries and its so sweet. I love it!

[rare acorn]

yeah ik

hard to do anything while youre filming

the deal pour is a monotocous circle from a fixed height, the rest is flair

[lofty cairn]

Heh true that, that's why I don't film myself making coffee lol

[lofty cairn]

SW Lychee from a few months back. What an epic coffee ❤️

[deft barn]

SW roasts good stuff

[deft barn]

Beans™️

[rare acorn]

Like an angry bird with a heart shaped forehead

[thorny hare]

Lmfao

[rare acorn]

made me a nice matcha latte today

[rare acorn]

instagram coffee

it was called a pina colada, and it tastes NOTHING like it looks

it's actually a very nutty maybe half Brazilian half Laos/North Thai blend with a good dry yuzu juice base

so it LOOKS like a soda, but actually tastes like a milk-yogurt drink

shaken too, so nice froth, nice aeration on that nutty coffee

very low acidity low bitters, big body, definitely unexpected

paired with a nice half-rose half-lychee macaron that costed way too much

[thorny hare]

Sounds tasty

[thorny hare]

Where can try this

[rare acorn]

Make one I guess

Unless you wanna fly here

Try throwing a nutty coffee into a shaker with some ice and throwing it on pineapple juice, that should be close to it

[thorny hare]

Damn

Okay

Well

[thorny hare]

That sounds horrible, I’m not sure if I want to try it like that loool but maybe if I get pineapple juice

[thorny hare]

Milk texture is getting better

Just can’t pour for shit

[rare acorn]

everything sounds horrible Jordan

[thorny hare]

Yes

[rare acorn]

if I told everyone coffee was just old burnt brown bean juice no one would drink it

except for the clinically sociopathic

but really coffee's just old burnt brown bean juice, so really we're all clinically sociopathic

[thorny hare]

I’m a delulu like yourself

[thorny hare]

@rare acorn apparently a local coffee shop has a Geisha

Do you think it’s worth getting it

Or is it going to be infinite americanos

Which I don’t mind

[deft barn]

Got the bag details?

[thorny hare]

nope

[deft barn]

oh well

[rare acorn]

Geisha is infinite filter coffee

not even Americano

which I would say is a difference, filter coffee usually has more of those real subtle flavors, more tealike

if it's an Ethiopian Gelena Geisha, those are cheap enough to experiment with if you get like, a 200g bag

[rare acorn]

having a Rwanda right now

these guys gave me a Custom POSTCARD, with their little mascot on it riding a truck celebrating Thai new years with waterguns, and a really nice sticker

hearts out to the local roasters still pushing through

[thorny hare]

Righteo

Okay probably shouldn’t get a geisha then

Also there’s a marathon on today

So fkn annoying

I can’t drive into the city

To get my coffee beans

[rare acorn]

what Geisha was it?

[thorny hare]

I don’t know

Can’t drive in and check

[rare acorn]

how much was it do you know?

[thorny hare]

My friend just told me they exist

[thorny hare]

Nope

No idea

[rare acorn]

damn

[thorny hare]

All he said was it exists

[rare acorn]

yeah Geishas are usually on the upperend of $2-3 a shot

usually about $10-30 a shot for the good stuff

[thorny hare]

Right

[rare acorn]

I'm having this one next for an espresso drink

it's like, a fermented Brazilian and Columbian

maybe you should try something along those sorts next, something with "exotic" processes

[thorny hare]

Fermented beans?

[rare acorn]

anaerobic process

when they mash the coffee but leave the fruit on, and let the fruit juices mingle in a basin for 2 weeks

gives it a tang, often some sweet and complex sourness

[thorny hare]

https://www.pactcoffee.com/farms/cherry-processing-methods

This is a lovely webpage

[thorny hare]

Ooooooh

[rare acorn]

this page seems to only have natural, honey, and "washed"

which are the core traditional methods

honey and anaerobic are pretty similar, so maybe you can try a honey process coffee

[thorny hare]

Yeah I need to find the rest

[rare acorn]

google's gemini AI search engine thing has a decent summary

Anaerobic Fermentation:
A method where coffee cherries are fermented in an environment where oxygen is limited, often in bags or vats, to alter the fermentation process.
Carbonic Maceration:
A method where coffee cherries are placed in sealed tanks and filled with carbon dioxide, creating a unique fermentation environment.
Semi-Washed (Wet Hulled):
A process where the outer skin and some pulp are removed before drying, resulting in a coffee with a balance of sweetness and acidity.

wet hulled is found in a lot of indonesian coffees

carbonic is very rare, don't think I've had a cup myself but I have seen it around

there's also DF, double fermentation, which is really popular nowadays, which is just anaerobic, but make it double

[thorny hare]

Ooh

Thank you

Also I might need to walk 45 mins into the city lol

Instead of driving 10 minutes

This silly marathon

[rare acorn]

should've had a bike

[thorny hare]

I can drive and loop around apparently, 16 minutes instead of my usual 10

[deft barn]

Cafe Imports has really good videos showing off the main 3 processing methods for coffees

But the experimental process craze has gone into overdrive since 2021, so you might see some truly wild stuff being done with coffee nowadays

Including Koji, Wine Yeast, even sourdough ferments being done and many more

[thorny hare]

Damn wow

[deft barn]

My general advice for these advanced fermentation coffees is to only try em if you're looking to be slapped in the face

The flavours are very prominent and usually in your face, of course you'll probably encounter palette fatigue much sooner with these coffees compared to the traditionally processed coffees

That's if you're drinking it black, these coffees do pair quite nicely with milk

[rare acorn]

lol yeah some weird stuff definitely

I'm looking at a lactic process coffee rn

[thorny hare]

@rare acorn

[deft barn]

those are all gonna be some pretty heavy punchers

[rare acorn]

Anoxic water pillow process for 24 hours is crazy

What does that even MEAN

[deft barn]

Water without dissolved oxygen

[thorny hare]

I got this bean btw

Fuck me it’s so expensive

£20 for 250g

Let’s try Anoxic Water Pillow Process for 24 Hours

Do you even like coffee if you don’t do Anoxic Water Pillow Process for 24 Hours

Noob, you don’t know Anoxic Water Pillow Process for 24 Hours ????

[deft barn]

i don't

i just like classic washed coffees

[thorny hare]

Same, so I got a cheap £10 bag of washed beans for espresso

But Anoxic Water Pillow Process for 24 Hours gotta hit hard

It better be some sort of crazy flavours I swear

[lofty cairn]

So... washed

[rare acorn]

you know what

I'm going to say it

I think flatbottom filters are a little dull

v60 for life baby

(it's probably my technique)

[rare acorn]

what the fuck is H2O without the O

that's just straight Hydrogen

[deft barn]

Every body of water with life in it has dissolved oxygen

How do you think sea life even exists?

[rare acorn]

yes, that's why I'm asking, what is H2O without dissolved oxygen

[deft barn]

Anoxic water

[rare acorn]

I've never seen or heard of the affects of water without dissolved oxygen

[deft barn]

That is the term given to water that lacks dissolved oxygen

[rare acorn]

I know H2O inherently doesn't have dissolved oxygen, but I only know in theory

so anoxic is just a filler word for anaerobic

so anoxic water pillow is just anaerobic with even less oxygen

[deft barn]

Yeah, that's pretty much it

Which results in an even more intense and wilder cup

[rare acorn]

https://tenor.com/view/wynonna-earp-in-theory-hypothetically-abstract-thesis-gif-20322522

man I should be a barista

I work a 4-5 hour shift at a school next to a cafe, and at the end of the day I'm always helping the cafe in some way

usually in exchange for some softserve and a bagel

shit's pretty fun

[lofty cairn]

Dissolved oxygen is different from oxygen atoms being in a chemical bond

[lofty cairn]

I wanted to buy an origami because i thought the brews would be immensely better than my plastic v60 but a bit of digging around reveals the difference is very slight and not really worth the money to me rn

[rare acorn]

origami is cool cause origami is cool

changes the taste slightly, in a way I notice it if every variable was the same

[lofty cairn]

Yes exactly 😂

I cant afford aesthetics rn

Does china not grow coffee?

They have such good tea...

[thorny hare]

Exactly

Tea > Coffee in China

Wuyi Mountains is known for it’s tea