Bird Photography

[daring imp]

Don't wanna spam my friend

[astral saffron]

Not a bird but you get the idea with centering, negative space for the subject to look into, and rule of thirds

I don’t have many bird photos lol

At least not as of late.

This is concert photography no?

[daring imp]

Yeah but he can edit anything

Just wanted to show his skills lol @astral saffron

[astral saffron]

I’m not familiar with concert photography so not sure how much of the editing process translates but you should really edit your own photos! It takes time and practice and it’s always better start sooner rather than later

For example I’ve developed a lot of my editing style from watching landscape edit YouTube videos and applying some of those techniques

[daring imp]

That's why im starting now! Wanted go get comfy with the camera first. That was my plan

[astral saffron]

YouTube is really your best teacher so try to take some time to sit down and follow a few tutorials

[fast knoll]

@grizzled nebula finally got that sharp shot ive been chasing

it's official my r5ii isn't broken

[astral saffron]

Find a creator’s style you like and then watching their process. Then go watch some videos on a different style. Then go watch some videos on how other types of photography is editing and see what you can apply

[daring imp]

Will do! Ive edited my recent images now. And gotten alot of upvotes here so im not half bad. I guess @astral saffron i always send my pictures here. If i get alot of upvotes here = Instagram worthy post. Since all are photographers here anyway

[astral saffron]

Just share whatever you like, even if it doesn’t get upvotes here 😁

Don’t base your style on other people’s opinions

Creative process is often disliked at first even if you like it, so don’t limit yourself to what other people like and try new things

[fast knoll]

sorry if im interrupting something lol

[daring imp]

Thanks alot bro @astral saffron will think differently ❤️🙏

[tender galleon]

we were going to my grandparents when my dad spotted it sitting on the side of the road, it let us get very close

[steady pasture]

Yo @fast knoll, is this just my device?

Or am I buggin

[trim fox]

moire

[fast knoll]

just urs

[steady pasture]

Ahh

It only does it when I click on it

[tough hull]

Meh

USA was chill
When I was there

[undone slate]

@grizzled nebula

The linnets are coming

[undone slate]

what's mimosa

use something that scares mosquitoes

[tough hull]

Tree

They are cool

[undone slate]

a plant also i think

[tough hull]

A TREE IS A PLANT

[undone slate]

I MEAN

there is a plant that when u touch it

it moves

and it's called mimosa in spanish at least

[tough hull]

Barely anymore burbs I need to find

I just need red crossbill, field flare and wood warbler as lifers

Bro I’m in a city and someone said like wohoo and it was so good Merlin said it’s tawny owl

@gilded yarrow

[grizzled nebula]

nice

samsung NX1000 can do BIF 😲

[tough hull]

Oohh

I saw the fight while the dragonfly was flying for its life

They moved so unexpectedly though

Luckily they landed right infront of my feet

I also made a video and got lower in more images

But AF struggled a bit

Focused the ground lol

Bird focused but dragonfly not

Bruh

Long eared owl in the city

This city is so beautiful

[naive fiber]

Get one of these

[grizzled nebula]

i wanted to but not worth it cause MF

[naive fiber]

Makes sense

There a 50-200 which is the longest lens?

[tough hull]

Warbler Magnet Lol

Two people came at me already because of my big ah lens

@grizzled nebula you gotta go to Sweden some day

[grizzled nebula]

"big"

[grizzled nebula]

i want to

[tough hull]

It’s big compared to most photography lenses

For a super telephoto it’s small

[grizzled nebula]

i want to go to Hornøya

[grizzled nebula]

100-500 the goat of small telephoto

[tough hull]

It’s shit though

F7.1

[grizzled nebula]

lol

[undone slate]

woww

[grizzled nebula]

stupid thing to say

it's an incredible lens

barely any darker than urs bro

[undone slate]

are u in a garden right now?

[grizzled nebula]

Hornøya just seems so insane

look at this bruh

there's puffins etc

[undone slate]

stupid guy

he's literally giving downvote for anything

[tough hull]

Nice

[grizzled nebula]

he literally only downvoted ur image 😭

[undone slate]

Idk why

[grizzled nebula]

ever thought he might just not like it?

[undone slate]

he's a strange person

[undone slate]

he's strange, he's just giving downvote because i'm called rock

😭

[grizzled nebula]

[undone slate]

https://tenor.com/view/viking-kratos-kratos-falling-gif-6333762479708829172

[grizzled nebula]

btw the 100-500 starts at F/4.5 and ends at 7.1 urs starts at 5.6 and ends at 6.3

[deep vigil]

whats the photo in question

[undone slate]

aarvs sell ur camera for 1 dolar pls

[tough hull]

A great tit, a greenfinch a whitethroat and a white wagtail where sitting at this lil pond all at the same time

I could not decide what to shoot first

[undone slate]

#1510219668059717642

[tough hull]

Just took one of all

[undone slate]

WHERE IS THAT 😭

[deep vigil]

its not very good to my eyes

[undone slate]

to my eyes is excelent

i really like that photo

[deep vigil]

ok

[tough hull]

Inside Katrineholm in Sweden

[grizzled nebula]

pied wagtails are cute

[undone slate]

where exactly

[grizzled nebula]

to yours

you're not other people

[undone slate]

who knows

[undone slate]

what's that

i can't remember the name in english 🙁

[tough hull]

Greenfinch

[undone slate]

what?

i thought they were like this

[tough hull]

Yeah but sometimes they get crazy yellow

[undone slate]

bridal plumage

[undone slate]

eric

where exactly

[grizzled nebula]

sweeden

[undone slate]

where exactly

The exact place

[undone slate]

what's that blue stuff

[deep vigil]

gps coordination

[grizzled nebula]

paris in sweeden

[undone slate]

https://tenor.com/view/viking-kratos-kratos-falling-gif-6333762479708829172

#1510219668059717642

[fast knoll]

it's a sign

[undone slate]

in a beach?

i have those signs in the beach idk

[fast knoll]

park

[undone slate]

Ohhh ok

Nice pic then

[grizzled nebula]

lmao

[naive fiber]

Did you just upvote react yourself 😭

[undone slate]

why not

[tough hull]

What exactly does pied even mean lol

Like black and white head or smth

[grizzled nebula]

yes

like magpie

[tough hull]

There are barely any wagtails that aren’t pied where I live and usually photograph

I rarely see non pied wagtails

[grizzled nebula]

pied wagtails are the most common

[undone slate]

how did u took that photo

is so difficult to take 😭

BUT WHERE'S THAT

[tough hull]

KATRINEHOLM

[undone slate]

😭

[tough hull]

Yes

Katrineholms Stadpark

[undone slate]

thanks

i'm gonna go there right now

No i'm not, i wish i could.... 😭 😭 😭 😭

[tender galleon]

going to a lake tmrw morning

i want to find water birds

[deep vigil]

i have great success with waterbirds and lakes

[grizzled nebula]

i wish i had a lake nearby

[tender galleon]

the lake im going to is 35km away

there are a few lakes closer but no birds

[undone slate]

can anyone go to #1510219668059717642

[deep vigil]

and then what

[naive fiber]

Have you got any shots with your new lence

[grizzled nebula]

closest lake that's not invaded by kayaks near me

the other has an incredible backdrop but as i said invaded by kayaks

[undone slate]

and?

wow

[undone slate]

How many minutes is this from your house?

[grizzled nebula]

50 mins

[undone slate]

Not bad

[grizzled nebula]

this is what it looks like in the summer

[undone slate]

😭

ugly

[grizzled nebula]

they use the lake as waterpark

and they also do kayak rentals

annoying cause it's a nice little lake

[undone slate]

🙁

what's ur best spot

What price will you sell your camera for?

10k?

[grizzled nebula]

what?

i'm not selling it for now

and if i sold it i'd sell it for 1.6k

[grizzled nebula]

this is the best birding spot near me

still 38 mins away

[undone slate]

that green area?

[grizzled nebula]

then i have all this which is about 1H away

[grizzled nebula]

it's a wetland...

has a few lakes etc

[undone slate]

photographing in a wetland is kinda difficult without a boat i think

[grizzled nebula]

no?

[tender galleon]

no good shots yet

[undone slate]

if birds get far away from u

like in the middle of the wetland

[naive fiber]

you are enjoying it I assume

[deep vigil]

fair it will happen eventually

[undone slate]

...

[tender galleon]

yess

im waiting for the squirrel to come

[deep vigil]

do we like video clips here

[undone slate]

in ur house

?

[tender galleon]

lowkey forgot the swallows yesterday

[tender galleon]

yes eating rn

the sun gave me a headache

[undone slate]

what are u eatgin

[tender galleon]

supermarket hamburger

[undone slate]

yummy

now i'm hungry

[tender galleon]

costs only 85 cents

[undone slate]

ONly?

omg so cheap

[naive fiber]

my printer is so ass lol

maybe I should get a canon one

[undone slate]

there are printers for only photos?

how do they work?

@naive fiber

[deep vigil]

i want a printer too but my people do not think that is a good idea

[undone slate]

what people

[deep vigil]

my irl circle

people i live with, friends, family

mostly people think that from a financial perspective i should keep ordering prints online

[naive fiber]

Depends on the type of printer

[grizzled nebula]

[deep vigil]

why the long face

[grizzled nebula]

how much do u pay for a print online

[deep vigil]

like $15 for a 12x16 inkjet

[naive fiber]

a3 printers arent cheap yeah

12x16 is close to a3 right

[grizzled nebula]

hmm

[grizzled nebula]

larger

[deep vigil]

i know about the 13 inch canon pixma 200 pro s or whatever

[grizzled nebula]

tbf it will probably be quite expensive

[naive fiber]

11.7x16.5 for a3

[deep vigil]

i only order these on occasion, and the initial cost to make them is hundreds

[naive fiber]

a4 printers arent too much

[deep vigil]

thats a bit small for me to be honest

i don't see great so i like a large paper

[naive fiber]

fair

[grizzled nebula]

it would probably be worth it to get a printer if you print loads of photos but if it's just occasionally then honnestly i don't think it is

[deep vigil]

yeah exactly

it just doesn't make sense as much as i want it

[tough hull]

A boat won’t help

The birds are not in the water if they aren’t waterfowl

And waterfowl is usually big

[deep vigil]

i love photographing waterfowl

so cute im super into this pic

[undone slate]

my best pic of a goldfinch, for now.

[naive fiber]

nice shot but bad background and the fence sucks

[undone slate]

?

Oh ok

could i remove that background?

[undone slate]

yeah 😭

[undone slate]

@naive fiber

[naive fiber]

no

[undone slate]

🙁

[naive fiber]

I have many wasted shots from annoying backgrounds

this is why I need 600 f4

[undone slate]

Yeah

[naive fiber]

500 pf is still mmm

[undone slate]

?

Oh yeah

pretty good lens

[undone slate]

is that the max quality?

[grizzled nebula]

Heard the PF lenses have mid bokeh

[tender galleon]

okay now finally swallow time

headache is gone

[naive fiber]

F5.6 so expected

I wasn't really planning on shooting at f4 much though

Want to see a 500 f4 @ f5.6 Vs the 500 pf

[grizzled nebula]

I Mean i get insane bokeh at 5.6 on my 600 F/4

5.6

[tender galleon]

do yall have wrist strap recommendations

[grizzled nebula]

iirc they had to compromise the bokeh for size and weight

[naive fiber]

I think the 600 f4 gets much better bokeh than the 500 f4 on Nikon anyway

Maybe not much

[naive fiber]

Yeah it's a really good size but I wouldn't mind something a bit bigger tbh

F4 is a hit extreme

[grizzled nebula]

That’s cause ur close to the subject compared to 500mm

More zoomed into*

[naive fiber]

True

But the 600 f4 was too much anyway

[naive fiber]

I don't think they matter too much

[grizzled nebula]

Sad

[naive fiber]

Apparently they look similar(?)

[grizzled nebula]

500 f/4 and 600 f/4?

[naive fiber]

But the 500 f4 renders out of focus highlights better

[naive fiber]

No 500 f4 at f5.6 and 500 pf wide open

[grizzled nebula]

Huh

Idk then

I’ll look after

[naive fiber]

I wanted to look into the 600 F4 though

See them a lot on game drives

[tender galleon]

okay i bought a smallrig one with quick release

[naive fiber]

Should be good

How heavy is the 100-400

[grizzled nebula]

1.1kg iirc

[tender galleon]

1.6

[grizzled nebula]

Wait which one u got ?

[tender galleon]

nvm 1.1

strap description said it can hold up to 5kg

so should be good

[naive fiber]

That's really light

I did kinda want an 80-400 for travel tbh but idk about small birds with that

[gilded yarrow]

LMAO

[tough hull]

Actually this could (even if very unlikely) been one

But this long eared owl I am 100% sure it’s mistake

I was looking for my sister at a playground and ther e was these tube phones or idk how to call it and another little girl yelled in there and it came out like this

[naive fiber]

that sounds like an owl so much though lmao

maybe dove esque

theres this bird that merlin refuses to identify and it comes every day

ill send a recording tmr but it cant

[tough hull]

No

[tough hull]

This sounds like one

[naive fiber]

I thought it was a tawny you were speaking about

I didnt read

yeah not long eared

[split path]

Mandarin duck

[tough hull]

They are sooo beautiful

There’s one around where I live but I have only seen it once at close range

The other times far away

[tough hull]

But unfortunately no camera on that day

[grizzled nebula]

i've never seen one 🙁

[split path]

I saw one with baby ducks but I didn't manage to photograph them.

I mean together.

But I don't know if these little ducks are her or not. But they follow her.

[grizzled nebula]

Black kite flew over my house

But too high unfortunately

I got told theres been some owls spotted in the campsite thats at the bottom of the road so ill go have a look soon

Maybe tomorrow actually

there's also a spot in that same capsite where i could possibly see some birds of prey but i'm not sure about that one

[naive fiber]

amazing bird

I may have some near me

[daring imp]

Driving slow on random forest roads are fun. I always get mega lucky

Going in for a hug

[charred holly]

It is always hard to swallow

[daring imp]

👀

[deep vigil]

whoa

[charred holly]

Here is the latest one I took

Missed precap so no flight there 🙁

[grizzled nebula]

Not found a perched one yet

Well one that was close

Some some perched ones that were too far away to get a usable image of

[charred holly]

There are one bazillon of them where I usually go

Trying to get one in flight is pretty much impossible

But some of them do settle sometimes

[gilded yarrow]

Also got a semi usable house martin shot today

And lots of duckling pics

[green canyon]

there are so many swallows at my house

they arent very careful while flying

2 have bumpes into my window already

[gilded yarrow]

put something onto the Windows then

[green canyon]

like what

oh my god the side of my window is covered in ants

what the fuck

[tender galleon]

yoo

[fast knoll]

sometimes the local park that's 3 mins away from me pulls through

[steady pasture]

Is that a dark-eyed Junco?

Also, I’m always amazed by the sharpness of your images

[fast knoll]

yes it is!

thank you! ive honestly been a bit disappointed by the image quality from my r5ii but yesterday i got a ton of very sharp pics so i think conditions just weren't as ideal previously

[grizzled nebula]

Dayum

Moon is beautiful tonight

[gilded yarrow]

Lool I just took pics of the moon too

[gilded yarrow]

Lol what is happening there

Phone pic or terrible denoise

Nah that has to be phone right

[grizzled nebula]

yh phone pic lol, this is from my camera

don't ask me why i was so unstable

was way too far and in wet sand unfortunately

[undone slate]

@naive fiber

@tough hull @grizzled nebula

[grizzled nebula]

bro

[undone slate]

wait!

I just got

my best

BEST

PHOTO

[undone slate]

is that ur cam photo or phone

[grizzled nebula]

cam

[undone slate]

Look

very bad photo 🙁

[grizzled nebula]

that's awful

[undone slate]

🙁

i know

wait a second

i just took

my best photo

[grizzled nebula]

so can u show us ur best?

[undone slate]

ok

[grizzled nebula]

yh u said that already..

[naive fiber]

yes

[undone slate]

unedited

[grizzled nebula]

the original crop is better..

[undone slate]

?¿?

that's a good photo

[grizzled nebula]

crop it something like that

[undone slate]

ohh ok

[undone slate]

and this one?

[grizzled nebula]

is that the original crop?

[undone slate]

yes

I quite like that photo honestly

[grizzled nebula]

the positioning of the bird in the frame is bad

it's too far to the front

[undone slate]

Nah

i mean

i like it

[grizzled nebula]

crop would've needed to be like this

[undone slate]

Ohh ok

[grizzled nebula]

ok

[undone slate]

yeah right

yea that's better

you're right

But is that a good photo

i need to know pls

[grizzled nebula]

other than the crop it's decent

[undone slate]

it would be an EXCELENT photo if it would be taken with the r6 ii

😭

[tough hull]

I can’t see the moon rn💔

I can’t fucking sleep

42 mosquito bites on my hands

[undone slate]

why u can't

[undone slate]

No

where are u

https://tenor.com/view/viking-kratos-kratos-falling-gif-6333762479708829172

[tough hull]

MF I SAID IT TEN MILLION TIMES

SWEDEN

[undone slate]

AT UR HOUSE?

[tough hull]

they hurt only after a bit longer

I got bit yesterday

While photographing

Deer

[undone slate]

WHAT BIRD IS THAT

[grizzled nebula]

image quality is too bad

what iso setting are u even on

[undone slate]

800

original

[grizzled nebula]

what about the shutter speed

[tough hull]

Mf idiots

[undone slate]

1/1600

[grizzled nebula]

this was taken on ur camera rock..

[undone slate]

No

is that rue

[grizzled nebula]

you clearly have a wrong setting

[grizzled nebula]

yes

[undone slate]

How do u know

[grizzled nebula]

not a great image but clearly a lot cleaner than what ur getting

[undone slate]

quality...

[grizzled nebula]

cause it's on the sony website review section...

[undone slate]

hmm

[grizzled nebula]

it's a compressed image from the website

can't get the full quality file

[undone slate]

What am i doing wrong?

I'm setting it all good I think

this photo is good for example but, what am i doing wrong

[deep vigil]

can your camera shoot raw

[undone slate]

no

[grizzled nebula]

don't shoot at 800 iso

[undone slate]

800

[grizzled nebula]

you need to be as close to 100 as possible

[undone slate]

100

[deep vigil]

oofles

[undone slate]

Probably impossible

[deep vigil]

if you and the bird and totally still it can be possible

[grizzled nebula]

u also apparently need to disable noise reduction

[undone slate]

?

Why?

[grizzled nebula]

because apparently it makes image quality significantly worse

[undone slate]

Oh really?

so if i disable that

i'm gonna get better photos

idk where to search on the camera

[grizzled nebula]

show camera settings

[undone slate]

wait a sec

My camera shows:
High Sensitivity Noise Reduction
Wind Noise Reduction (this would be for videos)
Multi-frame Noise Reduction

@grizzled nebula

but idk how is that called in spanish

because my camera is in spanish

[grizzled nebula]

can u just send a pic pls

[undone slate]

do u know spanish?

[grizzled nebula]

i'll just use google translate

send an image

[undone slate]

Ok

[undone slate]

my phone isn't working i think

i'm using my pc

right now

it doesn't have battery i think 🙁

[grizzled nebula]

breh

[undone slate]

How can i do then

There's an option that says noise reduction on high ISO, and I switched it to low because it was previously set to high. @grizzled nebula

[grizzled nebula]

try taking a random picture rn close to 100 iso

between 100-300 iso

[undone slate]

Ok

[daring imp]

might have missed focus fuck

[undone slate]

how many shutter speed?

[grizzled nebula]

500 or 600

[charred holly]

oof, shot looks incredible otherwise

[undone slate]

it's night right now

[grizzled nebula]

don't think so, just looks very cropped in

[grizzled nebula]

turn a light on and take a picture of something on a wall..

[daring imp]

could work in bw

[undone slate]

ok

[grizzled nebula]

Wish i could've gotten closer

it was cute

[daring imp]

trying to crop in as much as possible to see how it looks!

[undone slate]

done

[grizzled nebula]

send..

[undone slate]

ok

400 iso

pretty bad...

i should try

outside tomorrow

With more light

But for birds i need shutter speed at 1/1000 or /800

and with 400 iso i cant probably

i'm not sure

[tough hull]

I do woodcocks at 1/800

[grizzled nebula]

idk why ur camera's quality is so bad

for the sample images i've seen is 600x better

i'd need to see ur camera settings

[tough hull]

What is that lol

[grizzled nebula]

common nightdale

[tough hull]

Nightingale?

[grizzled nebula]

yes

[tough hull]

I’ve probably seen them before but didn’t know eehat it was 😭

[daring imp]

abit better maybe

[grizzled nebula]

tomorrow before sunset i'll go look for that scops owl

[magic crown]

next week 🔥

owls will soon be mine

[steady pasture]

Within a minute of arriving at this River-front restaurant

[daring imp]

this is pretty interesting, i wish the other bird was facing me

[tough hull]

Cool shot lol

[tough hull]

Everyone but me seeing ospreys💔

I think I saw one the other day

Too bad by the time I had my camera it was behind trees again

It’s so sad because I don’t have them at home

[grizzled nebula]

is this actually good?

[magic crown]

a thermal sensor is always good it's just the image quality the main problem

[undone slate]

Like what?

could u send me

the best setting

for birds

[fast knoll]

depends on the situation

[tough hull]

I Need your fstop

[undone slate]

?

fstop

Oh ok

um

usually f.6.3

[tough hull]

At longest focal length

?

If yeah then at brought daylight, use 1/3200 with auto iso

[fast knoll]

r u gonna upgrade @undone slate

[fast knoll]

for action sure

[tough hull]

Well he wants bif ig

[fast knoll]

is his af even fast enough

[undone slate]

Prob not this year 🙁

[undone slate]

yeah

is fine

[undone slate]

yeah f6.3

[undone slate]

maximum shutter speed at my camera is 1/1600

[tough hull]

Then use that

[undone slate]

1/1600?

too dark then

[tough hull]

Oh right tiny baby sensor

[undone slate]

yes 😭

[fast knoll]

u should buy a cheap dslr

[tough hull]

YES

[undone slate]

no, i prefer saving for a r6 ii

because if i buy a cheap dslr i'm gonna wait even more for the r6 ii

SO WHAT SETTING DO I USE

https://tenor.com/view/viking-kratos-kratos-falling-gif-6333762479708829172

[daring imp]

check tutorials for faster replies

[undone slate]

what do i search

[tough hull]

Camera settings wildlife Sony HX60

[undone slate]

i can't found anything

[green canyon]

fuckass video

[grizzled nebula]

just found a eurasian eagle owl hotspot

[green canyon]

the full version is so stupid

[undone slate]

?

[green canyon]

its funny

[undone slate]

So what do i use

what information

AI information or video

i'm asking this because

i'm not founding any video

[daring imp]

It cant be this hard... @undone slate

[deep vigil]

i strong recommend you get a camera with interchangeable lens and 1/4000th mechanical shutter

[tough hull]

@undone slate

Get a canon R10 or something

And a good lens

Lens matters more than camera

[fast knoll]

r10 rf 100-400

that lens is quite good for the price

[tough hull]

Then you can save for R6ii and don’t need to save for lenses

[undone slate]

It is

[undone slate]

Noooo

i'm saving for the r6 ii

not r10

[tough hull]

So

[fast knoll]

might as well save for the r5ii then

[tough hull]

How will you afford the lens

[undone slate]

i can afford them

just time

1 year maybe

[tough hull]

Listen

[undone slate]

But i'm asking this because

[daring imp]

no you cant..

[undone slate]

aarvs says that

[fast knoll]

do u work? do ur parents have money?

are they willing to fund your hobby?

[undone slate]

he founds photos of my camera with better quality than min

[fast knoll]

if i had to guess youre like 13

[undone slate]

No, more

[undone slate]

Yeah, they have money

[tough hull]

He is like 90

[undone slate]

Yes

[fast knoll]

i bought an r5ii and then used it to make money

[grizzled nebula]

what the fuck have i said now

[fast knoll]

made $2.2k doing grad photos so far

[undone slate]

yeah i'd like to to that

[undone slate]

he founds photos of my camera with better quality than min

[grizzled nebula]

i am aarvs don't need to say "he" when replying to my message

[potent zealot]

I've making decent money with my current gear

[green canyon]

you dont get to have a name

[daring imp]

spent 10k on my gear and made 5-7k from real estate in 1 summer, baisically paid off all my gear.

[fast knoll]

yea u can do portraits with basically anything

[fast knoll]

oooh nice

howd u get into that?

[tough hull]

@undone slate what lens you want for R6ii?

[fast knoll]

seems hard to get in without a connection

[grizzled nebula]

spend 8.9k on my gear and made 0 euros

lol

[undone slate]

aarvs's lens

[fast knoll]

LOL

[undone slate]

idk why

[fast knoll]

cmon man

[green canyon]

how many gigs is that?

[fast knoll]

be realistic

100-500 is more than enough for u

[daring imp]

My best month

[potent zealot]

100-500 or 600 f/4

[undone slate]

well umm

i'm not sure

600 f/4 maybe

NO

[grizzled nebula]

AHAHAHAHAHAH

[undone slate]

Too expensive

maybe 100-500

[fast knoll]

there's a lot to consider bud

[tough hull]

This will take you five years of saving

[fast knoll]

price, weight, versatility

[green canyon]

what happened to z6iii + 180-600? wasnt that the plan like a half a year ago

[undone slate]

nah

[tough hull]

Bye see you then

[grizzled nebula]

How much do u think that costs?

[undone slate]

2 months ago

[potent zealot]

Buy the r10 if you'll get ts 😭

[undone slate]

idk

[deep vigil]

rock anteater do you make enough money to afford full frame mirrorless birding?

[grizzled nebula]

it costs more than the R6II..

[undone slate]

Sure

[fast knoll]

bro is 14

[undone slate]

yeah i know

[fast knoll]

he doesnt have a job

[undone slate]

no i'm not

[fast knoll]

get an r7 brochacho

[grizzled nebula]

just get an R10 and RF or EF 100-400.. you'll get very similar results, even an R8 if you want even more similar

[undone slate]

AAAAA

[deep vigil]

r7 is a great birding body

[undone slate]

https://tenor.com/view/viking-kratos-kratos-falling-gif-6333762479708829172

i'm gonna do this

instead of getting a camera

[daring imp]

r7 is the best birding camera tbh, apsc and 30mp if i remember correctly, also mirrorless

[tough hull]

Even I had a job at 13 🥀 it was just a minijob but bro you gotta take what you can get

[grizzled nebula]

i got warned for sending gifs like that btw

[deep vigil]

no MY camera is the best birding camera because it is MINE

[green canyon]

tbf you gotta get really lucky to have a job at 13 or 14

[grizzled nebula]

biggest issue with it is the 3rd party lens extreme focus breathing

[fast knoll]

lmao how

[daring imp]

YES your OWN camera IS the BEST

[potent zealot]

Can confirm
It's crazy with a sigma 150-600

[tough hull]

It’s just newspaper

But it payed decently for what you did

[deep vigil]

jk r7 is really nice and i wish i had one

[grizzled nebula]

ok mine were worse on paper but the context in which he used it was not much better

[tough hull]

Now it’s shit though

[green canyon]

atleast where i live, delivering newspapers is a dead job

i dont even think it exists here anymore

[fast knoll]

yea does that even exist anymore

[undone slate]

HELP

I NEED

HELP

[fast knoll]

everything's online

[fast knoll]

no u dont bro

go outside and take some photos

[undone slate]

FOR GETTING BETTER QUALITY IN MY PHOTOS

[green canyon]

he kinda does

[potent zealot]

Sure
What could we possibly do.

[fast knoll]

ur export settings are prob fucked up too

[grizzled nebula]

GET A CAMERAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

[daring imp]

didnt you say u can do photography before? @undone slate

[grizzled nebula]

forget about the R6II ffs

[undone slate]

I CAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAN'T

[green canyon]

"back in my day son"

[undone slate]

RIGHT NOOOOW

[potent zealot]

Maybe buy a dslr??

[undone slate]

photography?

[grizzled nebula]

get something else that u can afford now instead of saving for something you won't even buy good glass for

[deep vigil]

80D is a good camera

[undone slate]

i don't want to do that

i just want to enjoy photography not working at it

like a hobby i mean

[grizzled nebula]

lens is more important than the camera bro

[undone slate]

i like birding so at the same time i gett photos

[potent zealot]

Why not?

[undone slate]

so buy a r10

[grizzled nebula]

yes

or R7

[daring imp]

100%, still run 7d mark 2

[potent zealot]

Dunning kruger effect is real

[undone slate]

ur not doing tha

[grizzled nebula]

and then get a RF 100-400

[fast knoll]

7dii is great

[grizzled nebula]

not doing what

[undone slate]

everyone upvote this 😠

[deep vigil]

i wish i had a 7D for birding i only had a 5D

[grizzled nebula]

no

[undone slate]

buying that

[undone slate]

yes

[grizzled nebula]

why would i

[undone slate]

Idk

[fast knoll]

i gotchu

[grizzled nebula]

i had the immediate money for better

you don't

[undone slate]

hey hey ehye

[tough hull]

It did until two months ago when they introduced Kaufland extra papers which I gotta lay in and they are all together heavier than the newspaper (so the weight doubled) and this got me an increase of TWO FUCKING EUROS per month

[green canyon]

no

[undone slate]

😠

stop it 😭

[green canyon]

lmao

[grizzled nebula]

i won't upvote until u buy an R10 and RF 100-400

[undone slate]

R6 ii

[grizzled nebula]

bro gonna buy a R6II and 75-300

[green canyon]

i got quite lucky with my minijob

[tough hull]

It’s not funny💔

[grizzled nebula]

bro it's gonna be worse for u on paper

[fast knoll]

lmao

[undone slate]

300mm no

600mm

[daring imp]

you dont need that, you havent done photography for atleast a year. i can tell

[undone slate]

😠

[grizzled nebula]

the R10 gives u more reach

[daring imp]

or r7

[green canyon]

did a mandatory internship at a tech company and i did so well that i got offered a minijob 🤑

[fast knoll]

nice

return offers r where its at

[tough hull]

What you doin there?

[undone slate]

https://tenor.com/view/rage-savage-scream-angry-intense-gif-14772564

[grizzled nebula]

like if u buy a 100-400 instead of having a max of 400mm on the R6II you'll get 640mm on R10

[green canyon]

data analysis

[undone slate]

https://tenor.com/view/throwing-things-throwing-a-fit-tantrum-angry-pissed-gif-18091201488917551893

[green canyon]

too many rocks

[undone slate]

https://tenor.com/view/rock-one-eyebrow-raised-rock-staring-the-rock-gif-22113367

[potent zealot]

Can yall confirm this? Maybe get some sense into rockanteater?

[undone slate]

what

[fast knoll]

lol

[daring imp]

or 7d mark 2/tamron 150-600mm g2. i ran that for a long time and wasnt expensive at all @grizzled nebula he could get that

[grizzled nebula]

the camera feels so much nicer in the hand with the grip when using the 600

[green canyon]

he doesnt pay rent though so hell be stuck at the realisation stage

[grizzled nebula]

trust me he'll never get a DSLR

[undone slate]

https://tenor.com/view/rock-everythingeverywhereallatonce-gif-25516405

[grizzled nebula]

bro can u listen to me

[daring imp]

he wont even get a mirrorless. since apparently he dosnt have money so.

[undone slate]

I'm trying to!

[deep vigil]

dslr are fun cameras

[undone slate]

now i'm angry

[grizzled nebula]

R10 gives you 1.6x more zoom than the R6II

[undone slate]

in fact no but idk

[potent zealot]

Yes

[undone slate]

so why did u got the r6 ii

Look

[green canyon]

https://klipy.com/gifs/sonion-1

[undone slate]

there is an easy way

[grizzled nebula]

because i could afford the lenses to go with it

you cannot

[undone slate]

aarvs sell his camera for 1 euro

problem solved

[potent zealot]

vf better than evf

[grizzled nebula]

i'd get an R7II if it ever came out for the APS-C crop

[green canyon]

debatable

[tough hull]

No, you are making us angry, spamming millions of useless gifs and messages

[undone slate]

...

i'm joking

[grizzled nebula]

evf my goat

[tough hull]

I’m not though

[undone slate]

Ok

[tough hull]

Yeahhhh

[grizzled nebula]

trust me ok get R10 and 100-400

[undone slate]

i never get angry actually

[grizzled nebula]

it's a better combo for birding

[deep vigil]

i wish i had a r10 and 100-400

[undone slate]

400mm? 😭

[deep vigil]

sounds lit

[tough hull]

600

[undone slate]

yes

[grizzled nebula]

it's 640mm on R10

[undone slate]

better

[tough hull]

Apsc

[grizzled nebula]

only 400mm on R6II..

see what i mean

[undone slate]

i prefer buying a 600mm to get a 800mm

[undone slate]

but on ur camera u have 600mm and u can get a 800mm or smth lik ehtat

I mean

u do massive crops

[grizzled nebula]

because i have a teleconverter

[undone slate]

i should buy that

But now i'm asking for RIGHT NOW

can i take better photos?

with my main camera

dont tell me buy a new camera

[grizzled nebula]

you'd have a 1344mm on R10

[undone slate]

less quality

i want QUALITY

[tough hull]

No the 100-400 (full frame lens) used on an R10 (apsc 1.5x crop) becomes a 100mmx1.5 to 400mmx1.5 lens so a 200-600

[grizzled nebula]

you won't, it's expensive and you can't afford lenses that can afford it properly

[grizzled nebula]

GET R10 and 100-400 then!!!!

you'll be closer and have the same MP as the R6II

[undone slate]

so why it has less quality?

[grizzled nebula]

who said it has less quality?

[undone slate]

so why did u bought the r6 ii

U should buy the r10 then

not the r6 ii

[potent zealot]

if you want quality, spend more on the lens ;-;

[grizzled nebula]

because i do more stuff than birding bro

[deep vigil]

[grizzled nebula]

R10 is more than good enough if u mostly birding, can also be good for macro

[undone slate]

really?

like what

[grizzled nebula]

they're different types of cameras

[undone slate]

well i also want astro 👀

[grizzled nebula]

R10 is for reach, the R6II is more hybrid

[undone slate]

so i could get similar quality photos as others on this server

[deep vigil]

i would love a full frame mirrorless camera but its not in my books rn

[undone slate]

Hmmm

Ok but i also want astrophotography

[potent zealot]

yes, even with a dslr

[deep vigil]

r10 would beat my camera in a fist fight

[undone slate]

ONLY astro and birding

That's all!

hmm

[potent zealot]

dslrs are quite nice for astro

[undone slate]

pretty cheap

[undone slate]

they make noise

[grizzled nebula]

just get an ultrawide that's manual focus and no IS

[undone slate]

Oh right

they make noise

that's not good for birds

I mean maybe

the goldfinch doesn't scare with that noise i think

[potent zealot]

if you shoot in clear daylight , the noise is 0 issue (from my experience)

[grizzled nebula]

yet people have been able to take pictures of birds with them for the past 20 or 30 years

[daring imp]

dont use high enough noise then and only shoot daytime...

[grizzled nebula]

this was taken with this camera and lens..

[undone slate]

not too much quality i thin

[green canyon]

the humble gitzo systematic and rrs bh55

[undone slate]

I mean, fine quality but not as much as others

[grizzled nebula]

the real image is better quality i imagine, this is just a low res internet image

[undone slate]

oh ok

so u bought the r6 ii because yes

but is the r10 good for astro

[potent zealot]

compare it to what you have

[grizzled nebula]

GET A DSLR if u want astro

[undone slate]

ur camera is better for astro

[undone slate]

yea

[grizzled nebula]

i give up

i'm serious

i cba anymore

[green canyon]

kinda depends on the type of astro

[grizzled nebula]

all he wants is the milky way

[green canyon]

then its enough

[undone slate]

yeah for now yes

[daring imp]

any camera works for that, the lens is what only matters then, 1,8 or even 2.8...

[undone slate]

True

[grizzled nebula]

as i said i'm not helping anymore

[undone slate]

ok so i'm gonna buy the r10

[grizzled nebula]

oh wait

[undone slate]

i don't want to be anoying or smth but

[grizzled nebula]

i bought the R6II cause i had the money

[undone slate]

Yeah i know that

[grizzled nebula]

if i didn't have the money i'd have bought an R10 or something like that

[daring imp]

Then why ask?

[undone slate]

because if the r10 is so similar

[grizzled nebula]

[tough hull]

Does it Even matter?

[potent zealot]

it's smaller

and lighter

[undone slate]

well

Ok then

but i'm gonna ask the last question today

What settings should i use to get more quality at my camera, because aarvs show me some photos of my camera with better quality than mine.

[daring imp]

google

practice

[undone slate]

... pleasestop

[undone slate]

i can't found anythign

[potent zealot]

expose properly, practice and experiment

[undone slate]

should i check other sony cameras videos?

[tough hull]

Your lens got hit by sunlight

So less contrast

Same happened to me today

Yesterday

[undone slate]

Really?

[tough hull]

Yes

[undone slate]

how do u know

🙁

[tough hull]

Because your image looks flat

That is either because of haze or sunlight

[undone slate]

flat?

i can't see anything of that

[undone slate]

haze probably

[tough hull]

You said no more questions for today

[undone slate]

but hit by sunlight u mean the lens?

my lens got damaged?

[daring imp]

Bro...

[undone slate]

wat

[potent zealot]

light entered your lens from a certain direction

no damage

[undone slate]

oh ok

u almost got me an heart attack

[grizzled nebula]

Camera is ass anyways

[fresh epoch]

Canon R50, RF 100-400 at 400, F.8, 1/400

[grizzled nebula]

What happened to the grass

[fresh epoch]

Denoise happened due to f8 and iso 4000

Looked ass with tons of noise, plus only a few strands were in focus originally around the bird

Happier with this, also taken at 400mm and f8

Sadly a bit slow shutterspeed. Didnt want to blow the iso too high

[naive fiber]

its that bad?

why not use 6400 and denoise

rather have a noisy image than a blurry one

[fresh epoch]

I kinda like the motion blur showing motion but im also curious how'd it look sharp

[naive fiber]

so do mirrorless

[fresh epoch]

This was taken at 6400

[naive fiber]

I dont think the r6ii has that much better noise performance as my d600 tbh

its better defo

[fresh epoch]

I usually shoot at auto iso capped at 6400

[naive fiber]

but whats noisy on my d600 will probably also look noisy on his r6

yeah I mean like

its not leaps and bounds better

[fast knoll]

was it that bad?

how cropped is this

what kind of denoise software r u using

[fresh epoch]

Not cropped

[fast knoll]

ive never seen it look that terrible before im confused

[naive fiber]

maybe manual

[grizzled nebula]

Not what he meant by noise

[naive fiber]

shoot wide open in that case tbh

[fresh epoch]

Darktable

[fast knoll]

hmm that could be why

[fresh epoch]

This is a reupload of a jpeg though. Ill upload the original in a bit

Jpeg shared then downloaded tanks the quality

[fast knoll]

this is 10k iso with dxo

[fresh epoch]

Im a newbie and have lots to learn honestly