Bird Photography

[tough hull]

K

[deep vigil]

2017 i believe

[undone slate]

@tough hull but 20 fps are good in most of the scenes

[tough hull]

So almost a decade

[cobalt zenith]

Well, zoo does

[undone slate]

ohh ok

i thought they were yours

[tough hull]

Z6III is less than half the price of Z9 and for the price a damn lot better and I think it also manages 20 if not 30fps continuous shooting

[deep vigil]

i dont even really use continuous shooting much anymore

[undone slate]

yeah but now people is telling me that i should buy the r6 ii

so idk what to doo

[tough hull]

I always have it on just in case

[deep vigil]

that is valid

ive been focusing on staying calm and relaxed when doing photography

[tough hull]

#1497374316680052756 message

No calm here

Be ready to be fast

10fps yet fish is only in two frames

[deep vigil]

i still would use continuous drive for some things

but for the bunnies in my yard... im laying in the grass chillin with buns

[tough hull]

Not a precap thing either because here you gotta focus the fish while it’s jumping

[undone slate]

idk what to do honestly

[tough hull]

You don’t have the money anyway

[undone slate]

I have

[tough hull]

So just wait

[undone slate]

but i can't afford it right now

[undone slate]

yea but i want to know

what to buy

and what not buy

[tough hull]

That’s what I mean

[undone slate]

yea

[deep vigil]

buy one of everything

become a camera model guru

[undone slate]

is this a good photo

it's not mine

[tough hull]

I know someone who owns around 100+ different cameras

[deep vigil]

heh

i once had nearly 100 film cameras

[tough hull]

4 of them are here

[tough hull]

Oh yeah most of those are film cameras

I could go to him and just use one of his cameras any time lol

[deep vigil]

i had a sizeable collection of manual focus cameras

but then my vision got bad and i stopped using manual focus 😭

[tough hull]

Sad

I hope my vision won’t fade that fast

[broken mantle]

Do you guys have raincoats for your gear? Or just yolo in the rain?

[tough hull]

I am able to identify a kingfisher from 50 meters away without a camera

[grizzled nebula]

Yolo

[tough hull]

Yolo but never go in strong rain

[deep vigil]

i can't see the birds until they move heh

[tough hull]

Well me neither but when moving I was able to identify a kingfisher recently from 50meters away

[broken mantle]

Have been going yolo. But just ordered a custom made raincoat for my gear

[tough hull]

Like small birds

Buzzards and things like this from far away always lol

[deep vigil]

most of my bird pics are larger waterfowl

theyre easy to spot

[tough hull]

Try to find grebes in a swarm of 200 ducks and geese lol

[deep vigil]

the other day i spotted this guy and i didnt know until i imported the pic on my big screen that it had a worm

[tough hull]

Damn

[undone slate]

i'm gonna steal

right now

some sticks

[tough hull]

Do you have glasses?

[deep vigil]

yeah

[undone slate]

wdym by glasses?

camera glasses?

or human glasses?

[tough hull]

Do you use them while photographing?

[deep vigil]

no, i use the diopter on my camera viewfinder

[tough hull]

I mean you could use glasses so you can see the bird’s better

Without the camera

[undone slate]

nice

[tough hull]

Anyway I will learn physics now and mute discord

[broken mantle]

Do you guys also bring a binocular on your bird photo trips? I stopped using one after getting a telephoto lens

[undone slate]

OK

[tough hull]

Nah

[deep vigil]

i always go with my partner and he uses my binoculars while i use my camera

[tough hull]

For my siblings if they are with me

[broken mantle]

Some friends use both. Usually they have bird life lists and stuff

[sharp ether]

nice!

[sharp ether]

I do

Because I'm primarily a birder

[deep vigil]

im primarily a photographer... i dont know much about birds

[undone slate]

Someday

i'm gonna photograph this thing

[broken mantle]

Yeah. My ebird species list is 98% birders tagging me in the trip

[deep vigil]

i wish there was ebird for bunnies

[grizzled nebula]

good luck with that lmao

[undone slate]

It's not impossible either.

[broken mantle]

Inaturalist? Idk i use it mostly for insects and snakes

[grizzled nebula]

we lost too many cool animals

[grizzled nebula]

it is cause they don't exist anymore..

[undone slate]

colossal biosciences

[undone slate]

giant moa 😭

[deep vigil]

thanks

[undone slate]

dodo

[grizzled nebula]

it will never be a real mammoth

[undone slate]

What they do is commendable.

[grizzled nebula]

that's the big problem about de-extinction

we are transforming living animals

[undone slate]

yeah

[broken mantle]

Rocky will be the cameraman for ice age live action 😂

[undone slate]

But is there anything wrong with doing that? In the end, it will help the ecosystem someday.

[grizzled nebula]

well actually it will hurt it more than anything

they will compete with the species we have now

[undone slate]

Yeah

and that's good

[grizzled nebula]

they might also not live properly

[grizzled nebula]

how

[undone slate]

Just search it

It's the closest thing there is to Jurassic Park

[grizzled nebula]

bruh

[undone slate]

?

I really want to see a mammoth, a giant moa, a Tasmanian tiger, a dodo, who doesn't?

[grizzled nebula]

ayo

burnet getting surounded

[undone slate]

amazing photo

[deep vigil]

thats not a bird!

[grizzled nebula]

i could've gotten closer and got more detail if a stupid branch didn't crack

[sharp ether]

Maybe the ecosystems they lived in don't exist anymore. A lot has changed since they went extinct.

[undone slate]

The problem I have with bird photography is that I don't know if I should get closer or not

[deep vigil]

sometimes i get greedy and crawl too close and make the bnnuy hop away and i feel bad about it

[undone slate]

Yes, but in Siberia and similar areas, mammoths trampling the snow helps retain CO2.

[undone slate]

help

[sharp ether]

That shouldn't be the reason to bring back mammoths tho

I don’t know what the current scientific consensus is on bringing back mammoths but I think we should only bring them back if they fit into the existing ecosystem and if we are actually restoring the lost ecosystem by bringing them back

[undone slate]

yeah i think probably they fit in the actual ecosystem

[grizzled nebula]

Mammoths can't even be brought back

all we can do is make another elephant look like it

but if they start breeding with normal elephants it will be a disaster

[undone slate]

The goal isn't to make it 100% the same, but rather to imitate it and improve upon it for the current ecosystem.
If it were 100% the same, it would surely die.

same with dire wolves

[sharp ether]

I think, with advancements in genetics, it could be possible

[undone slate]

Probably

[undone slate]

Maybe someday they'll make something that looks like a dinosaur on the outside but isn't actually a dinosaur. In Jurassic Park, they weren't real dinosaurs; they were imitations, but they weren't the same.

[undone slate]

crazy

[naive fiber]

No

[undone slate]

i like it idk

[deep vigil]

i prefer if focus is on the eyeball personally

[grizzled nebula]

edited

this is my best insect photo lol

this is why i love the 100-500

this is basically uncropped

[daring imp]

Old image from 2019

[grizzled nebula]

crazy to think i almost didn't go to that spot

[glossy sage]

gasp

[grizzled nebula]

at that spot i've seen: Bee eaters, European rollers, golden orioles, honey buzzards, black kites, common buzzards, great spotted and green woodpeckers etc

sharpness

this screenshot doesn't do it justice lol

[deep vigil]

i found a funny looking bird

[grizzled nebula]

b rabbit

[deep vigil]

i want to learn to take better pics

[deep vigil]

sometimes i wonder if im held back by my old camera or if i would have the same or different problems with a new camera

[glossy sage]

@undone slate what cam u got

[deep vigil]

probably a sony hx60

[glossy sage]

Nahh

[deep vigil]

just nah lol

[glossy sage]

I just impulse bought DxO products. Rip bank

[deep vigil]

oh photolab?

i liked their stuff

my money situation is still recovering from splurging on a super tele in the first place

[tough hull]

I do lol

[tough hull]

I have one partly wait

I can’t find it rn but I have a bit of mammoth ivory in my room somewhere

[undone slate]

absolutely crazy

[undone slate]

really?

On the Mini Museum website, mammoth hair is for sale for only 20 euros.

[glossy sage]

why

[undone slate]

why why?

[glossy sage]

why

[undone slate]

but why why?

[grizzled nebula]

the gorges du verdon was one of my best birding experience

[undone slate]

why do you mean with why

[grizzled nebula]

this is one of my fav pics i've taken

[undone slate]

so cool

thoughts? 😭

i really like the background honestly

But...

[glossy sage]

why

[undone slate]

idk

[grizzled nebula]

bird isn't even in focus

[tough hull]

I got it when I was like 5

[undone slate]

stupid sony

[tough hull]

It’s so pissing I can’t find it

[undone slate]

it would be a great PHOTO

[undone slate]

where?

[grizzled nebula]

not really

[undone slate]

the background is epic

[grizzled nebula]

ur still too far away

[grizzled nebula]

meh

[undone slate]

i really like it

[tough hull]

Idk I was 5 but somewhere in the Lonetal I think in Baden Württemberg

[undone slate]

Maybe

[grizzled nebula]

this is an epic background

[undone slate]

But in my photo you can see the immensity of the forest

that's why i like it

[grizzled nebula]

crazy background

[tough hull]

Yeah I like that part too but it’s out of focus

[grizzled nebula]

the alps in the background looks really nice

[tough hull]

Ye

[undone slate]

also

[undone slate]

Stupid Sony

[fast knoll]

just too far away

even in focus that wouldn't look too appealing

[undone slate]

I'd like it, idk

[undone slate]

But how do I get closer?

[grizzled nebula]

you walk

[deep vigil]

walk forwards

[grizzled nebula]

crouch

[undone slate]

in the road

[deep vigil]

ninja crawl across the road

[grizzled nebula]

i got close to the european roller by going in tall grass

[undone slate]

It looks like a forest where I took it or something, but it's actually on the road.

[grizzled nebula]

didn't see me until that shitty ass branch cracked

[deep vigil]

i like to lay down in the grass

[undone slate]

Besides, if I walk hunched over on the sidewalk, people would look at me strangely.

[undone slate]

🐍

[deep vigil]

people might give you look when you do photography in general

[undone slate]

So true 😭

[grizzled nebula]

when i take the 100-500 most people don't really look

[naive fiber]

Im going to wait by my window for the next week in hope of parakeets

[grizzled nebula]

but when i take the 600 it's another story lol

[naive fiber]

But god that's hard to track

Especially with 200

[deep vigil]

i have had people stop me to ask about my camera

[tough hull]

Craziest thing I did once is for half an hour I crawled on all fours through high grass to get 30m closer to a ruddy shelduck

[undone slate]

but where do u photograph

[grizzled nebula]

same

[tough hull]

It only worked out partly

[undone slate]

that's kinda scary

[grizzled nebula]

i had a kid come up to me and ask how much my gear cost lol

[trim fox]

i need to get more camo clothes so i dont look like a fucking weirdo with a camera by a kids park

[tough hull]

Someone came with a drone and scared it just before I wanted to take the shot

[grizzled nebula]

everywhere

[undone slate]

Really 🤣

[deep vigil]

maybe if you have social anxiety

[tough hull]

Same

[grizzled nebula]

gorges du verdon, camargue, places around where i live etc

[broken mantle]

Camo doesnt help with being suspicious near a kids park

[tough hull]

What do you carry usually

[grizzled nebula]

if anyone has the opportunity to go there the gorges du verdon is a crazy experience

[undone slate]

same but with a truck

[deep vigil]

a camera

[tough hull]

Ah nah

[grizzled nebula]

griffon vultures flying at touching distance from you

[tough hull]

Obviously

[deep vigil]

:)

[tough hull]

What cam and lens

[undone slate]

are they used to people?

[tough hull]

And other possible accessories

[grizzled nebula]

i had a vulture come so close to me my lens couldn't even focus on it lol

[grizzled nebula]

yes

[deep vigil]

G9, 200mm, 1.4x

[trim fox]

fuck 😂 the pond is quite large and the only nice "camp for photos" area is right by the playground stuff

[broken mantle]

Wear i love birds clothes and stuff. Will help you more

[tough hull]

Nice

[grizzled nebula]

the feeding station for the vultures seems crazy but i've not been able to go there yet

[tough hull]

All the gear I usually carry would cost 3.650€ new

I of course got it cheaper lol

[deep vigil]

"nice"
by that you mean old and slow right?

[broken mantle]

Kids and their parents would approach us(photographers) and scare away the kingfishers were taking pics of

[grizzled nebula]

my gear is worth over 20K new but i got it for 8.9K

[tough hull]

Slow and old is what I call a D3100

[tough hull]

All my gear is def worth more

[undone slate]

@grizzled nebula How do you have so much time to take photos all week?

[deep vigil]

might have cleaner pics than the G9 since it has a bigger sensor

[grizzled nebula]

i don't take photos everyday

[tough hull]

So this I got for around 3.375€

[broken mantle]

My first birding cam is a d3200

[grizzled nebula]

i re edit old photos very often

[undone slate]

no, but i mean while the week

[grizzled nebula]

or i finish editing stuff i haven't had time to edit

[tough hull]

Ye but you can’t crop

[grizzled nebula]

?

[tough hull]

I love the look of the images though

[deep vigil]

why not

[undone slate]

during the week

[tough hull]

14MP

[deep vigil]

ah

you can crop a lil as a treat

[trim fox]

feel that, the kids here like to throw rocks and trash at the bigger birds here as well (blue herons, swans)

[naive fiber]

I should get a 1.4x

[tough hull]

Ye one is blurred

[trim fox]

cute

[grizzled nebula]

fr

ew

[tough hull]

This was in America

[broken mantle]

Yeah im dumb and got a red one

Was a pain to sell

[naive fiber]

200mm to 280mm

Fire

[grizzled nebula]

[trim fox]

red is fire

[naive fiber]

Not bad

[undone slate]

eric

the mammoth bone

[naive fiber]

At least Nikon f mount is stupidly cheap now

150-600 is 450

[undone slate]

How do you know if that's real, and how much did it cost you?

[deep vigil]

love squirrels

[naive fiber]

Like woah

[broken mantle]

Wearing all neutral camo clothes and stuff. Carrying the bright red camera

[undone slate]

180-600mm or 150-600mm?

[grizzled nebula]

gold vs dirt

[undone slate]

who's dirt

[grizzled nebula]

which crop

i think i like the 1st one more

[naive fiber]

I mean

[undone slate]

2
2

[naive fiber]

The 180-600 will be better

Obviously

[undone slate]

yea

[broken mantle]

The tammy g1, g2 and sigma c 150-600

[undone slate]

WAIT

wait

[broken mantle]

Yeah when the 180-600 arrived here the market got flooded with old f mount tele lens

[undone slate]

I'm going back to where I saw the goldfinches to take another horrible picture

[naive fiber]

But it's not like you can use the 180-600 on the f mount

[glossy sage]

why

[tough hull]

Me too. Last time I saw one in Europe though was like somewhen last year unfortunately

[undone slate]

why do u say why?

😭

[broken mantle]

Most people are holding on waiting for the z lens replacement. Knew a guy using a tammy g2 on a z8

[naive fiber]

Oh yeah makes sense

Stupid me

[naive fiber]

What a combo

[broken mantle]

Then sell it dirt cheap when the preorder arrives

I think thats a good thing. Now lots of biology students here owns a 150-600 and a 200-500 lens.

[naive fiber]

200-500 is apparently worse than the 150-600 c

[broken mantle]

Front heavy. But constant aperture.

[glossy sage]

the same reason you say why

[undone slate]

i'm getting so confused

i think i'm gonna

take goldfinch pictures

idk if i should say

pictures

photos

anyways

[naive fiber]

Apparently it's a bit softer

Also focus sticking

Someone told me this here

Small

Waiting for parakeets

[glossy sage]

no pixel peepers allowed

[naive fiber]

oof

What is that plant

Never worked it out

[deep vigil]

is that a red winged blackbird

[glossy sage]

oof?

[glossy sage]

Yes

[glossy sage]

Its a corndog, take a bite out of it 😄

It is called a pond reed

[deep vigil]

i want to pet him

[grizzled nebula]

ew so low quality

[deep vigil]

looks fine to my eyes 😆

[glossy sage]

ur low quality

send me ur lens

[grizzled nebula]

🙁

hope i get a really high quality pic of these rollers one day

[deep vigil]

what is that bird

[grizzled nebula]

this is the kind of bird u need a hide for

[grizzled nebula]

european roller

[deep vigil]

looks blue

[grizzled nebula]

they look insane when they open their wings

[glossy sage]

was it hot out?

Looks like heat haze

[grizzled nebula]

yes

heat haze was crazy

some of the worst i've experienced

actually probably the worst

[naive fiber]

Detail

[grizzled nebula]

golden oriole

not worth editing

[glossy sage]

wdym

[naive fiber]

Like the no pixel peeping part

So naturally I pixel peeped

[glossy sage]

I said don't do that

Photo has pretty good detail, the birds just not super sharp. It was 600mm away and thats like a massive crop

[naive fiber]

That's why I did it lmao

[naive fiber]

This is too hard

[grizzled nebula]

Parakeet!

real pain to photograph

[deep vigil]

yeah... bird photography isnt easymode

[naive fiber]

Yeah especially with parakeets

[naive fiber]

They don't land anywhere either

So it's only bif

[grizzled nebula]

so many birds of preys

[deep vigil]

🙏

i took a bird photo today but i haven't processed it yet

/blog

[tough hull]

Very Bad, I Can See the Ca so strong, very bad, shit photo

Jk

It actually looks very good if you don’t zoom

[undone slate]

Oh my god, they are the most adorable birds I've ever seen. I literally saw about 10 coal tits.

[naive fiber]

You are certain they are coal and not bluetits?

If so good job

[undone slate]

yeah they're coal tits

[undone slate]

I couldn't take a picture of them because they were in a tree that was difficult to photograph, with their backs to me, they were looking at me from behind in the sunlight and they were also escaping to other trees.

[glossy sage]

Wait you didn't zoom in far enough

zoom more it fixes it

Also the CA was very strong this shoot on the black birds. I think some heat haze got me good

[glossy sage]

What are you doing thats consistently providing clean backgrounds? Its really just sky back there?

[glossy sage]

DO NOT zoom into this one 😠
i have closer photos somewhere but I took like 5k photos and its a lot to scroll through

[grizzled nebula]

yes

[glossy sage]

also rolling shutter in this one ever so slightly warping wing edges. I was trying out pre-cap since Aarvs loves it

[tough hull]

Oof

[grizzled nebula]

holy heat haze

cute

[tender galleon]

gonna buy sigma 100-400 tmrw

[undone slate]

omg

[undone slate]

I'm not really sure if 400mm is enough for birds, I'm sure it's not enough for me.

[tender galleon]

crop sensor so 640mm

[undone slate]

I wish there was a really good lens that was 1-3000mm

[undone slate]

But how does that work?
Does it maintain the same quality, or what?

pls explain me

[tender galleon]

it crops the frame like in the camera so you get bigger reach, quality gets hit a bit i think, and full frame handles iso better because the bigger sensor gets more light in

[grizzled nebula]

i feel like this crop just loses too much quality

i wanted to get closer but also didn't want them to move away

made the wrong decision

got closer for this shot

[tough hull]

There is no 1mm

[tough hull]

Widest There is is like 3mm

[gilded yarrow]

widest on full frame is 10mm

or 9mm

[tough hull]

Was boutta say that

lol

[grizzled nebula]

4mm

[tender galleon]

havent birded in 1 and a half weeks

[naive fiber]

There's 50-1000 if that appeases

[tough hull]

Nah I think that’s apsc only

[gilded yarrow]

not on ff

1st test edit

[naive fiber]

It also does 1500 with a switch flick

Fire

Maybe drop background highlights

Also looks noisy

[grizzled nebula]

indeed but why tf call it RF is it's RF-s lol

[naive fiber]

Idk if that's discord

[grizzled nebula]

not noisy for me

[tough hull]

Damn good Job

[naive fiber]

probably discord then

[undone slate]

Ok, 100mm

[tough hull]

Go to Canon and get 200-800

[undone slate]

Yes, that's enough, are they good lenses?

sorry

i have my lovebird cage

[trim fox]

https://www.canon.ca/en/product?name=RF1200mm_F8_L_IS_USM

[undone slate]

i don't have the lovebird yet

[tough hull]

@undone slate do you want a 1700mm f4?

[undone slate]

Probably not

[naive fiber]

Yes

It's 30k

[tough hull]

Why

It’s very good

[undone slate]

💀

[undone slate]

yeah but most of the birds are close to me

And today, when I saw the coal tits for the first time, I can only say one thing.
Probably the most adorable bird I've ever seen. The sound too.

[naive fiber]

Is their sound cute?

[undone slate]

yeah

so cute

[tough hull]

You Can back up

Go back like 5-10m and you are still good

F4 btw

Only weighs 256kg too

Very light

[undone slate]

So, what's the best Canon lens for wildlife photography? The closest thing to Nikon's 180-600mm.

[naive fiber]

Ok no thats not the best Nikon lens for birding

But it's the 100-500

[tough hull]

There is no best

[naive fiber]

Best is subjective

[tough hull]

Best Can be in terms of longest fl per weight

Or highest f stop at a certain fl

[grizzled nebula]

Just saw a european roller pass over my house..

[undone slate]

idk how you find them

i've never seen them

[undone slate]

ok

they're not here

Cool

[gilded yarrow]

not even true, they're not in germany anymore

[undone slate]

that's from wikipedia

👀

Idk...

[undone slate]

why?

[gilded yarrow]

Idk why but they don't live in germany anymore

ah yeah that's also what the color means lmao

[tough hull]

Bro ngl I can’t wait until after the holidays too

I wanna shoot birds on medium format so bad

I really shouldn’t mess up though

Bro medium format film so expensive

[grizzled nebula]

I live in one of the green areas 😍

[deep vigil]

but why

[tough hull]

It’s amazing

[deep vigil]

it is?

[tough hull]

Like the medium format

Film is amazing

I love that grain

[deep vigil]

whats amazing about it

[tough hull]

.

[deep vigil]

so you like film because of the result you get?

[tough hull]

And idk film has just its own look

[tough hull]

Yeah

[deep vigil]

interesting

i grew up shooting film and weirdly prefer the clean digital look

i don't like the extra steps of digitizing the film and removing hairs/dust

and i honestly dont mind using film emulator like dehancer for people who want that look

[grizzled nebula]

Lol

[deep vigil]

dont get me wrong, i will happily shoot film on request, but its not my preference

[undone slate]

what's that

that red cirlce

i can't see anything

[grizzled nebula]

https://tenor.com/view/dog-dog-meme-breathing-gif-13820128381672978139

[grizzled nebula]

The red circle is what the 2nd image is zoomed in on

[undone slate]

AAAA OK

and what's thatt?

and what are u doing there

Are you spying?

[grizzled nebula]

no i'm flexing my focal length

[undone slate]

Why are flexing ur local length

[grizzled nebula]

because why not

[undone slate]

idk why u want to do that

🤷

[deep vigil]

nice focal length, bro

[naive fiber]

This with tc?

[grizzled nebula]

1344mm

[grizzled nebula]

1.4 + 1.6x crop mode

[naive fiber]

Is it useable for birds?

[grizzled nebula]

nope

well i'll have to try but don't think so

super sharp

[undone slate]

WOW

so cool

is that a coal tit?

[grizzled nebula]

great tit

coat tits are black and white

[naive fiber]

Young great tit

[naive fiber]

Not in the uk

[undone slate]

How do y ou know that

[naive fiber]

They often have a bit of yellow to them

[naive fiber]

Size mainly

[undone slate]

Well, honestly, it does have a similar appearance.

the colors

not gonna lie

[grizzled nebula]

yh there's different type of coal tits

[undone slate]

Are there different types?

[grizzled nebula]

i want to see the black crested coal tit

one of the coolest looking birds i've seen (not irl unfortunately)

[naive fiber]

India right

I should find them when I go visit family

[undone slate]

omg

i didn't knew that exist

wait wait

No

that's the same species

as the coal tit

[naive fiber]

Yes

Variation of it

It is a coal tit

[grizzled nebula]

yh

it's so cool

india has so many insane birds

[naive fiber]

I need to do an india trip

Considering I'm from there

[grizzled nebula]

like bro look at this

dream bird

i want to go to asia and south america so bad

so many insane species

[naive fiber]

This is insane

[undone slate]

is that real

[naive fiber]

My mum saw these when she went to kerala

I need to go dude

Going to Kenya which has cool as birds as well

[grizzled nebula]

yes

[undone slate]

omg

[grizzled nebula]

it's called the oriental dwarf kingfisher

[grizzled nebula]

[undone slate]

man that's absolutely crazy

is like a sci-fi bird

[grizzled nebula]

their colors change depending on the lighting too

[undone slate]

Yeah that's true

same with pigeons

[undone slate]

but that's a coal tit

idk that's kinda strange

[naive fiber]

They have these in Kenya

I really hope to see a few

[undone slate]

omg

[naive fiber]

My birding spot got flooded though

And washed away

So maybe not

[grizzled nebula]

liliac breasted rollers are insane too

[grizzled nebula]

like bro

i need

[naive fiber]

It's their national bird

[undone slate]

that's a normal bird

it's so cool

but it's more normal than others

I think

[grizzled nebula]

the pink robin is so damn cute

[naive fiber]

What a shot

[undone slate]

man is that real

[grizzled nebula]

yes

[undone slate]

i'm discovering

[grizzled nebula]

it's in australia

[undone slate]

a lot of new things

todya

[naive fiber]

Everything cool is

[undone slate]

Australia=crazy

[naive fiber]

Azure tit

[grizzled nebula]

toucans are insane too

[naive fiber]

That's not Australia but still

[undone slate]

Go to the amazon

[naive fiber]

Azure Kingfishers are cool

[naive fiber]

Yes because that's affordable

[trim fox]

how are these birds real wtf

[naive fiber]

I need to ask my dad if he has seen these

[grizzled nebula]

wadafuk

[gilded yarrow]

1/400th for more raindrop motion blur🔥🔥

[gilded yarrow]

[naive fiber]

Sick

[grizzled nebula]

yh i'm going to africa and asia idgaf

[naive fiber]

Ok this looks like a kite

Like a literal kite

[grizzled nebula]

himalayan monal

[naive fiber]

Superb starlings are very common

Cool bird

Along with a couple of the paradise flycatchers

Those are also cool

[trim fox]

how do you know the birds will perch there? do you just point your camera at that one spot and wait basically?

[grizzled nebula]

holy shit that tail

[grizzled nebula]

they always use the same perch

[gilded yarrow]

I was there on saturday already and saw one perch there, decided to sit infront of the spot and wait

[grizzled nebula]

well on the same day

[gilded yarrow]

Same for my kingfisher pic

[gilded yarrow]

Also on different days cuz theyre breeding there

Cant do the same with raptors or something tho

[grizzled nebula]

wtf

[trim fox]

noted, i gotta try looking for a better spot

wtf

[naive fiber]

Sick bird

[grizzled nebula]

the bee eaters i found are gone 🙁

[naive fiber]

This is a painting nvm

[trim fox]

still a sick bird

[gilded yarrow]

yea indian birds are fake istg

[grizzled nebula]

wtf

is this

[trim fox]

costa rica also has some really cool ones

wtf

[grizzled nebula]

king vulture

[naive fiber]

Plump

Yeah cool bird

This is where you may hate your prime lens

[naive fiber]

That's such a funny thing

[grizzled nebula]

damn

[naive fiber]

I saw an Asian koel

If that counts as a cool bird

[trim fox]

looks like a redwinged black bird almost

[naive fiber]

Eyes are cool

Rest is pretty boring

[grizzled nebula]

these tails are so cool

[trim fox]

heels and a skirt

😂

[naive fiber]

Yellow

[trim fox]

lizard in its mouth?

[naive fiber]

Imagine missing focus on this

[trim fox]

id just end it tbh

[grizzled nebula]

tail is 1.2m btw

[undone slate]

meh

[undone slate]

yeah i already knew that bird

Quetzal

[undone slate]

waht's that

Nah that's not real

[undone slate]

1 meter

they're like archeopteryx or smth like hta

@grizzled nebula

[daring imp]

Insane photo

[grizzled nebula]

it is

[undone slate]

what species is it

[undone slate]

🦎

[gilded yarrow]

the fuck

[undone slate]

what are my eyes seeing today

[naive fiber]

bird

[grizzled nebula]

lmao

[magic crown]

necky birb

[grizzled nebula]

cute couple

always there to give me a chance to get a good photo of them

the one i got today wouldn't have been too bad if the heat haze wasn't so crazy

[magic crown]

holy heat haze

[grizzled nebula]

dumbass hidden branch scared it away

i was withing 15m of it btw..

[magic crown]

that's why cloudy photo is the best no heat haze

[grizzled nebula]

atleast i got a very nice kite shot

[magic crown]

if i tell you for my shot you will cry

[undone slate]

the only issue is low quality 😭

[grizzled nebula]

bro i was hidden in the tall grass and everything was going perfect until that shitty branch

[magic crown]

that one branch know his assignment

[grizzled nebula]

i smashed it so next time it's not in the way anymore

if only super resolution was actually good

[grizzled nebula]

https://tenor.com/view/pedro-pascal-mandalorian-laugh-cry-gif-21495683

idk if i should laugh or cry

it was too high

this heat haze today bruh

[undone slate]

idk

[undone slate]

💀

[magic crown]

bro's luck need to be studied

[grizzled nebula]

well i'm decently lucky cause 3/4 of the area i found were not accessible 2 years ago

[grizzled nebula]

also saw a fox today

ran away before i could get a pic of it

[gilded yarrow]

25% keeper rate lmao

could sort through again tho, sometimes kept bursts

[left brook]

and still not sharing

[gilded yarrow]

lmaooo I spent the whole time sorting

[left brook]

editing stream when

[gilded yarrow]

There are a few nice ones

all unedited obv

[gilded yarrow]

Lool defo not today, 10:40pm and I need to get up pretty early

Also my pc not good enough for stream + editing LMAO

[left brook]

fire fire

this one wasnt denoised?

was it just slower ss

[gilded yarrow]

Ah ye I denoised some to see how good it works

1/2500 iso 3200

[left brook]

yea looks great

wheres the one with the wings out

this one

[fast knoll]

did u edit any yet

[gilded yarrow]

Nah

spent 1.5 hours sorting, did some other stuff, slept for an hour and then kept sorting on and off for 2 hours LMAO

[left brook]

how many did u take

[gilded yarrow]

around 2.1k in total

was very slow lmao

well I sorted through everything once in 1.5 hours, then another time to make sure I didnt miss anything

maybe its just my dxo settings but to me they look identical

[left brook]

they do

[gilded yarrow]

edited

gimme a sec bg wrong

this is better

fahhhh

[unborn frost]

big rolling shutter

[left brook]

damnnnnn

[fast knoll]

oh my

that's heat

good quality too

is that a heavy crop?

[gilded yarrow]

Not really

[tacit gazelle]

Is this tuff or too basic

[gilded yarrow]

16mp still

[fast knoll]

that's pretty good

[gilded yarrow]

Don't like pics with fences or cages in them

[fast knoll]

eh fence is pretty annoying still

[gilded yarrow]

tbh

[fast knoll]

this is the only fence pic i have that i kinda like lol

[tacit gazelle]

I want it to be intentional though

I wanna make it feel so that the bird is trapped yo

Yk

[fast knoll]

also the angle looks kinda odd

top down

[tacit gazelle]

Yea I could've gotten lower

[fast knoll]

i would get down to eye level

[tacit gazelle]

I was tryna go for like a trapped feeling in these photos

[fast knoll]

second one is pretty nice

[tacit gazelle]

It stood there like that for a good moment

[gilded yarrow]

I did that too the one time I was in a zoo

[tacit gazelle]

I was genuinely gonna die walking in 100 degrees weather

[naive fiber]

this is heat

[gilded yarrow]

Thanks

[trim fox]

bro... 🔥

[gilded yarrow]

I should do more video, super cool

video size aint that cool tho

[trim fox]

how large was that

it took a while to load on my pc so i assume huge lol

[gilded yarrow]

the edited one 270mb

original 1gb

for 40 secs

🙏💀

[trim fox]

🙏

gonna go out soon too hopefully can catch nearing the end of breeding season

too lazy to cull these warblers man

[gilded yarrow]

aight will continue tmr

12am

too late

need to get up at 6am

[unborn frost]

Todays dump. Was split between removing the greens or keeping them. Again open to any comments.

Also does anyone have any tips for handling such saturated backgrounds? Ive been leaning towards some 'moody' edits but idk I feel like changing things up to get a more muted/natural feel. YT vids etc would be helpfull c:

[gilded yarrow]

I personally like both, very dependant on the overall pic but usually I'll go with lighter/ more pastel colors

[gilded yarrow]

there's an example

fixed it right away lmao

[grizzled nebula]

gave it more natural colors

[tough hull]

Who said I will do that loop

[trim fox]

over 1k photos and not a single sharp swallow picture

fml

💀

[shut hazel]

swallow experience

[trim fox]

this coulda been good

[gilded yarrow]

Yeah thats too far away

Heat haze will fuck up anything at that distance

[trim fox]

yeah... these were at 161mm, i found it really impossible to track while at 200-300 though

they were flying kinda close

just zooming by

spray and pray

all g, i got a lifer today so im happy

[deep vigil]

no one... just talking about my preferences

[analog rivet]

Feel like you’d love this

I think it’s a white headed chilling chipping sparrow. Isn’t a real
Bird but a classification of abnormalities of sparrows

Someone posted this to Facebook and my gf asked if I knew what it was.

[grizzled nebula]

cute

[daring imp]

Lets go we have a nest here now! They keep flying back even tho we are here at the cottage. Not scared of us

[daring imp]

Takin lil bro out for a shoot today

[gilded yarrow]

slight size difference

[tough hull]

What I would be doing is make like a big “print” on actual photo paper, but like not printing more like developing or whatever it’s called

And ofc make one digital version but I want one nice photo to put in my room

That wasn’t digital

I think I should try to get a kingfisher with that

[grizzled nebula]

Long lens hood gang

[tough hull]

Ever had an extendable lens hood lol?

That 1000mm lens I held, had one

[grizzled nebula]

nope

[tough hull]

It’s kinda annoying actually

Idk if you can lock it, I did not try but if you hit anything it’s just goes back

That’s thing is all metal though

[grizzled nebula]

mirror or just some shit temu thing?

[tough hull]

The lens is like 400g of glass and 1600g metal

[tough hull]

Mirror

It’s older and it has pretty good quality only problem is that it’s made for black and white and has an insane orange tint if you shoot color

[grizzled nebula]

lol

u got any pics with it?

[tough hull]

No though I used on an slr and looked through viewfinder

But like actually all you saw is bright or less bright orange lol

The color of the glass is insane

I won’t be able to get to the lens for two weeks tjough

I have to study for my last physics exam today

And tomorrow I’m going on holiday

[tough hull]

It’s M42 so I will use it after the holidays on my Sony

It’s as heavy as my 200-600

[grizzled nebula]

good luck!

[tough hull]

Thank you

[tough hull]

No straps btw

[grizzled nebula]

crazy how heavy these shitty things are

i don't use a strap for my 600 anymore

well atm i don't

[tough hull]

Only because it is made100% out of metal

[grizzled nebula]

but when i go back to camargue soon i'll def use it cause i need to walk a lot

[tough hull]

Like except the optical elements

[grizzled nebula]

man idk why i want the R3 so bad now lol

[tough hull]

Crazy

You have a lot of grip on it though right?

Because it’s not just a tube but also has this tripod leg

Which you can hold it on

The 1000mm doesn’t

[grizzled nebula]

yh i hold it by the lens foot

[tough hull]

I meant that

I have to use the 1000mm on a tripod definitely

Otherwise I won’t be able to focus fast enough

What birds look good in black and white ?

I think a heron would be cool

I have to be around 5m away from it though

Not closer and max like 5-8m further away

[grizzled nebula]

Storks

[tough hull]

Hm good point

They aren’t in my village quite often though

Well haven’t been there since a month

Idk where they were from but in two nests 20km from me the babies have hatched

So maybe they only go to closer food sources now

If these were the ones I saw

[grizzled nebula]

quick edit

[tough hull]

Hm

Any smaller birds?

[grizzled nebula]

one of the coolest birds for B&W imo

[grizzled nebula]

anything that has a mostly white body tbh

[tough hull]

Idk I think a lot of colorful stuff can be good in black and white

The thing is Images look different if they are shot monochrome than if they are shot on color and converted monochrome

Wait no

With a color filter I mean

Which I already have with this orange color

Anyway I will get of discord in the next few mins and only open it tomorrow when I’m in the car to Sweden

So much stress incoming

[daring imp]

No but my 28-300 lens has extendedable barrel. Only extended camera tool I've used. The lens is really good. Can shoot anything with it

[undone slate]

Wao

[undone slate]

color version?

[undone slate]

that's cropped right?

[grizzled nebula]

yes

very heavy crop

[undone slate]

And yet it still has a lot of quality

[grizzled nebula]

mostly due to it being a big bird

on a smaller bird it won't look too good

[undone slate]

That's right

I really want to go to Africa. But with my camera, it's not worth it.

[grizzled nebula]

this is about the same level of crop

[undone slate]

a lot of noise

i mean

not a lot

but i can see it

[grizzled nebula]

meant to send this

[grizzled nebula]

i decided not to denoise cause it keeps more detail

[undone slate]

Nice

[undone slate]

yeah

[undone slate]

is that the max quality of the photo?

[analog rivet]

Never posted my most recent photos

Nearly all of these are pretty deep crops, only like 3 that aren’t

[grizzled nebula]

nah, this is basically the same amount of crop as the other black and white image i sent before

to show how it looks heavily cropped on a smaller bird

[grizzled nebula]

very nice!

[analog rivet]

Can’t wait for the 1.4x man, 300 gen isn’t enough reach for wild
Birds

[undone slate]

z6 iii or z7

[analog rivet]

Mix of both

[undone slate]

interesting

[analog rivet]

Idk which is which ngl 😭

[grizzled nebula]

oh so u did end up getting the 1.4x?

[undone slate]

Is Canon cheaper for lenses?

[grizzled nebula]

not really

[analog rivet]

Not yet, waiting until I make a few large purchases to see what’s left

The Nikon tc is like $120 ish so I’ll be mint as long as I’m not poor afterwards

[undone slate]

so why do u recommend me canon

[analog rivet]

Which I shouldn’t be, just can’t be too safe

[grizzled nebula]

i never recommended canon

i didn't recommend anything actually

[undone slate]

idk if it was u or eric

anyway

Why do eric recommend me canon

and not nikon

[grizzled nebula]

cause i think he doesn't like nikon

average sony user

[undone slate]

Therefore, his opinion is not objective.

[grizzled nebula]

but the R6II is a great camera

so is Z6III

[undone slate]

i'm getting confused
should I buy the r6 ii or the z6 iii

[grizzled nebula]

i mean for birding probably Z6III cause u can get the 180-600

it really depends tbh

[undone slate]

So why didn't you buy the Z6 III instead of the R6 II?

[undone slate]

yeah

[grizzled nebula]

because i prefer canon

[undone slate]

yeah but why?

i prefer nikon and MAYBE i'm getting the r6 ii

[grizzled nebula]

idk i'm more used to canon

super easy to get used to

[undone slate]

nikon is quite difficult maybe

i'm not sure

Were you using the 100-500 lens?

[grizzled nebula]

i mean all 3 brand aren't difficult to get used to, canon is just easier

[grizzled nebula]

you mean where?

or asking me if i was using it

[undone slate]

if u using it

[grizzled nebula]

yes i use it

[undone slate]

well maybe i'm getting the z6 iii i'm not sureee

[spring vault]

w birds

[left brook]

there's nothing thats hard to get used to

[left brook]

whichever is better value

or if you prefer certain lenses down the line if you get rich

[daring imp]

Anyone here use auto iso? 7d/r6 mark 2 has really good auto iso. Working well in daytime for birding. Started using it today