#Bird Photography
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apsc to ff
yeah it is
and my point was it still has raw pre capture lol
still glad i got the r7 over the r6 or r8
why r6?
the extra reach for free is nice
because ff is more expensive
yeah but you still will get better iq with ff
which is honestly more important
yeah it is
not necessarily once i have to keep in mind the fact i have to crop down the photos anyways
and i do less cropping on my r7 bc my lenses reach farther
@grizzled nebula I got a better lens than you now
dense pixels as well so i have a lot of detail to work with
mirror lens??
1000mm f10
Yes
fire
why is that?
Yes
REALLY
I donāt own it
I could ask the owner if I could use it
and why do u have that
yes it is cheap
Itās old
How much does it cost?
yeah mirror lenses arent made too much anymore afaik
so makes sense
Sea eagle
Lucky
how is it lucky
Photography is purely luck based now apparently
strange eye
And skill
and good lens/ camera
@cobalt zenith
Is that a picture of a wild rainbow lorikeet or a cage?
idk if i prefer the green or more yellow leaves
i can't see the difference
green imo
feels more sinister
I was being sarcastic
Green tbh
lead color?
LEAD
pls help
me
i'm getting
SO
SO
CONFUSED
ohh yeah
The difference is so subtle that I doubt most people would honestly notice it.
it's literally not subtle
It's pretty fucking obvious
go green
#šøć»shopping-help #šć»gear-discussion
Are seagulls obnoxiously big where you guys live
This one looks sharp as heck
R1 is better in certain situations
Low light, super fast birds that fly close to you
But r5ii overall is prob better cause of the megapixels
I didnāt shoot on it actually yet I just looked through it through viewfinder
Mildly unrelated but you use 200-600 right
I will take it after the holidays
Itās for the exhibition anyway right now
I will have to shoot black and white btw
The glass elements are orange and so is the image
I think it's a soviet one
From a thumbnail I saw
how do u know that
why because of the super fast birds?
Never really seen bird film photography
because r1 autofocus is the best
I will try
I have a problem. How do I track a bird as it takes off, or how do I properly track a bird in flight?
r5ii is still great
of all cameras?
r6iii is actually a bit better
of canon
Maybe the z8 is the best cam idk
u aim your camera and get good at keeping it in the viewfinder
first of all z9 is nikon's flagship
second of all it's probably the sony a1ii
I mean the medium format I will try to get a Kingfisher on because I can use color film
z9 doesnt even have fucking raw precap
It has to sit though
what's flagship
This makes no sense even in a closed bubble where only Nikon exists
wdym?
why r u larping as a camera gear knower
I need time to focus and only got like 5 shots on a roll
yes
idk how to track theem
practice
i'm not an expert
If we had to choose the best camera and lens for wildlife photography, which would it be?
again it kinda depends on what your goal is
I also don't know which lens to get for the R6 II.
wildlife
what kind of wildlife?
right now i'm talking about wildlife
if you want to shoot owls at sunset then 400 2.8 is ur best bet
because mammals are more difficult so yeah
Great lens
And very versatile with the 1.4
man why r we even discussing this
Now I have to spend 1000 euros or more for each situation. š
can u even afford any of this gear?
Nah
In 1 year yes
In a year
the r6ii is already like $1400
Apparently
R6iii af is slightly better than the r5II but not the r1
cheaper that r6 ii
theyre all great tho
im not complaining about r5ii
it barely fails me
except for swallows sometimes lol
swallows are impossible
Man I want the r1 so bad
Shush
Nah
It's an apsc obviously not
A1ii having shit subject detection for birds in the winder areas make it meh
When are you not confused
best for action tho
taht's good
r7 autofocus is shit
how old r u brochacho
Idk
lmao
š
youre funny in a special way
Can't the autofocus be fixed by software updates?
Kinda?
Yh but you wonāt be shooting action all the time and the a1ii struggles with perched birds if they have something closer than them even if fully visible and not actually hidden behind the bush or tree
Birds on this setup
we always circle back to this discussion lol
Tasty
talking about gear we can't afford
What is this
So why doesn't that camera have the autofocus of another camera like the R1?
where is that?
Because the R1 is the flagship camera
A medium format Pentax and a Pentacon 500mm f5.6
idk what flagship is
Technically I can afford it with the 200-600 and a normal lens if I sell all my gear but thereās literally no way thatās worth it
wait
At an exhibition of my photography club
refers to the most prominent, important, or highest-quality item, location, or product in an organization's lineup
cool
Oh this is what you were talking about
Cool
My brain just disconnected
All the gear there I can technically just ask to get for a few days
Bro
I fucked up yesterday
I got killed by automod
I asked a moderator to remove my mod
Go on what š
what mod
It's not for the MP craving normies like us
It's for professionals
Stop asking questions everytime someone says something
Live and let be
Google is your friend
Asking is fine to an extent
i don't like google
?????
Bro
Ok go use Firefox idc
Whatās iguess
You will find plenty of experienced people on google
i guess
Some apple app? š
It's not like we don't use google
But in my unluck I didnāt turn my phone off and in the pocket I sent him an invite to a warthunder discord server š. I now still got the automod mute
Have you dmed the owner
Wtf do you do in that situation
Ugh idk
Awkward enough
Anyway
I did not bring my cam today
wow
"ich hab keine kamera" haha real
Wait did I say it in the vid?
yeah
but professionals look the mp too
Es ist immer so 
Does that mean something like I donāt have my camera
These professionals dont look at an R1 then
yes
hi
Hi
Internet, Individual, Instruct, Inform and Inspire phone
Oui
hello
aaaaa les francais sont ici
Oh oui oui baguette
je'mappelle cubingturtle
how is that heat haze treating you
Oui
aah
Some do
Anyway good night Iām home now and still gotta apologize to moderator
Gn
this bird has a worm š like the saying
Itās been alright
j'aime les photographie
french is to difficult
Was it early
same
yes actually
its a bunch of stupid exceptions instead of rules, otherwise its not too bad
like 7am
idk i just study english
Wdym, whole language is fucked

so what do wildlife professionals have?
i really wanna know
z9 for example
why arent you a wildlife photographer
r5ii
R1
i'm not a professional
Z8
Well i like birds! Big metal birds 
raw precapture
me neither
Ok
raw precap is for noobs
so why is people telling me
?
Cope??
yes
Your profile says you're a novice
What?
No
z9 is still one of the best cameras on the market
u should
I hate having pets
I mean that
"No non o"
and you have to take into account that it released in 2021
they're cool
imagine the z9ii
Well i am, i have my cam since 4 months now
Im excited to see what the z9ii will be like
yes but kittyyyyyyy
No thanks
J'adore la photographie parfois
i want to take more pics of birds but i keep getting distracted by two particular baby bunnies that keep showing up
im excited to see what z9 and z8 prices will be like
Some people say the Z9 is worse than other cameras because it doesn't have RAW format pre-capture.
Still better than the other Nikons
prob ably the best nikon
moi francais est merde, je vis a Canada
so there are better cameras
Rock might be an actual rock
š
i'm the rock?
Ye
no LMFAO
I do french because the government makes me do it
You are THE rock
lol
isnt it something like "shit"
Yes
close enough
Bunnies are w
mrd is the short form right
The word is almost the same as a swear word in Spanish.
I guess
had to do it until like grade 9 and then never touched it again tbh
Merde means shit
I have to do it until grade 10
Grade 11
i see people writing it all the time
Idfk how grades work
condolences
In 5 weeks I got time again
Gsces
Under rock sleeper 
They suck ass
canadien aussi??
For using gear from my photography club
No
Yo, either a fucking turkey just flew through my yard REALLY LOW TO THE GROUND, or a big ass hawk was hunting
mrd
English
Im not that deep into french that i know a lot of shortcuts
Can't use that in a french writing exam
aarvs prob cursing tf out of us irl rn
Fvg
lmfao
Doesnt look into chat
Yes
I met this old dude down the road from me, he has 100+ acres of land here and a huge pond in the middle (heās a birder and wildlife photographer aswell) and heās letting me use it to take photos of birds since I help him and clean up the ditches on our road
nice pic
See, you killed the chat
they didnt like my oiseau joke
I should go out with my new lens and try it on birds ig
what lens is that
what'd you get?
Ooh, what is it
EF 100-400 mkii
good enough
you can take good bird pics with that
Iād do allot of things to get an EF 100-400 mkii
the 100-400 ii is good enough
might as well try it
Shawn made me addicted
sent the wrong one this is the actual image (the mask were having problems os separation)
You mean alone and then crop or in combinition with the tc?
with tc
Also, my best friends older sister asked me to take her grad photos, I dislike taking photos of people with a passion
People are so boring to take photos of
Hmmm, might try it out
it should be sharp enough to handle it
just do it
no harm
But Iām ass even at the photography genres I do like
it turns into what, f5.6 to f8? at 400
F8 yeah
Should I just offer to do it for free one afternoon but ask her to have a backup plan if she doesnāt heavily enjoy them?
I have a wildlife and nature Reservoir next by so i def could catch some birds there
Ik
But in more concerned about sharpness
no i mean with a 1.4x tc
OH
On the tight apsc
sometimes i wonder about upgrading but my camera and lens work just fine so im always on the fence about it
it really should be able to handle it
Wouldnāt it be 1.6x
what do you have
Bc canon crop
That automatically
lumix dc-g9 and 200 2.8 with 1.4x
Oh
280 on mft is like 560 which is pretty long
On your r7?
Yeah
Ahhh
i think a lot of people use this on 24mp, 32 might be sus but give it a shot
i dont think youll notice without pixel peeping like a mf tho
I love my r50, if r7 mkii comes out within the next two years Iāll probably buy it
AFTER I upgrade this lens
San said the tc takes some sharpness and idk if it would be very good on the apsc but ig his demands are different from an avg boogie like me
Yeah maybe
I love my RF 100-400, the f/8 is kinda painful tho
morten is so peak
teleconverters on a telephoto lens usually dont perform the best. but also you already have 640mm ffeq from ur r7
Well the 100-500 was over my budget bc i bought a 70-200 f2.8 too so i have more flexebility
if u can't get a good shot at 600mm it just wasnt meant to be tbh
Iām probably going to buy an older prime (300 or 400) or the 100-400 mkii
idk if id drop another $400 on a tc
Yeah thats what im concerned about
the canon tcs are 400??
yea the rf ones
i get curious about RF full frame cameras for birding because the sensor is like incredibly larger than what i use and there are sweet birding lenses for it
holy fuck lol
The tc was 200, got it cheap and took it when i buy a dslr for messing around
Well mine is a ef
Mark iii
i got a refurb 100-400 ii from canon store for $1100
then i sold it for like $1350 lol
idk why they were doing such a massive sale
maybe it was a shitty copy ngl cause i wasn't impressed with the sharpness
Mine was 1.1k too, but its one of the First production models
lowkey facts
I really found out that I love photographing large mammals like cows and bison bc theyāre so much easier to get closer to
If you use a full frame TC on an apsc what's the crop then
at that point the enemy is heat haze

youll never be the rock
if u have it might as well try it
I hope I wont
do the rings on the metal bars scratch off the black paint at all
Nah
goldy boi
i actually don't always use a teleconverter on my 200
They dont get used a lot tho
Might replace them by peak Design quick releases later
I wanna redo this shot so bad one morning when itās not foggy and my camera lens isnāt fogged up
But i havnt used a camere strip for a while
i can feel the birb aura from here

Man I need to find some cool birds. Every bird I find is just a super common finch
Bc i use the arca plate as extender for the collar to carry the camera on the lens
Go out and sound id
At 5am
And look
Tis a king-birb, ruling over the cypress knee kingdom
listen too
the more you do it the more you recognize what sounds arent "regular traffic"
We have Guinea fowls here

the food will soon be mine so kneel stupid pigeons
like robins and red wing black birds are just background noise to me now
Early morning is tough for me because I'm suburbs tokyo and no trains until like 5
Also, the farming store in my county had a sale on bird seed
i think i have nothing more to change
So I bought another bag of sunflower seeds
corporate id photo shoot fr
studio portrait
Whats his linkedin
Nice shot
b2b sales (bread to bread)
I just noticed the eyss
just found out i got this nice shot lol
eh it's too low quality
it is a big crop
photographing birds is going to be interesting
Oh no
I'm taking portraits in 90 degrees far
Am I gonna get heat haze
the worst enemy
lol yep I want winter back
at least autumn
Theres a letter missing there
autuumn
haha
fall.
if only the migratory birds weren't migratory 
I dont think you have the focal length lmao
I need to go owl hunting
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man you really bird like all the time
whats your end goal
these are old pics
become a bird obviously
grow some wings
make people shoot photos of you instead of shooting photos yourself
my god
I wonder what this would look like on 50mp of the a1ii
not even edited yet apart from some sharpening an already looks so good
shot one the other day
really cool yeah
wish I didnt get a shadow on the face but ill take it
ive been trying to shoot one for a bit but most of them are pretty skiddish
damnnn
soft ahh lens
what duck is this
eh pretty much the same
but a9 has global shutter thats pretty sick
Yee I dont like the 24mp lol
and 3.8ms readout is pretty much nothing
A9III has shit noise performance too
domestic x mallard
eh I mean its gotta be better than the 50mp sensor of the a1ii lol
The A1II really is quite sexy
Ikr
The 2nd dial for burst speed and af mode is so sick
I genuinely need it
no I dont but gas is big on this one
8k video also sick
nope
Most avg sony brick 
mallards are pretty sick we dont really get em here
Huh interesting
teals and mottled mostly
sexy brick
global shutter is the reason for the shit noise performance
Yee makes sense, I've read stacked already fucks it up a bit earlier
keeps getting compared to APS-C DSLR noise level
apsc guy talking lol

Ofc Sony guy goes directly for the specs again

sharp
very
Love my 200-600
I noticed that I see some changing vignetting from ibis/oss tho, not quite sure if thats normal lmao
Like I can see the sensor or lens stabilizer working on the lcd
barely noticeable in the pics tho
coots look weird asf
These are also sick af
nope but babies are cute
eeeeeh
where are my ducks
ugly bird
how close were u
american coot
very close
pretty close to minimum focus distance
supposed to rain tomorrow, tent time 
testing my setup lmao
a7iv and the 200-600?
Not a lot of space but its chill
Yup
nice
gonna be fire
insane
the heck is that!
huge setup lmao
peak for long waiting sessions tho
gonna photograph the bee eaters tomorrow
hope it wont rain too much
Can look cool with the rain
yee hoping for something similar to my kingfisher pic but from closer
Or sun
Oh shit it changed
hell yeah
Hope noone else is gonna be there lmao
But I gotta sleep now, almost 1 am and my mom wants to drive to work with our car so I need to come with her and then drive to the bee eater spot
She leaves at 5:50am
ffs
got this guy a while ago, first time seeing an osprey with my camera
nice spray
Dump from a recent day out. Open to any comments, still trying to figure out edits. I think some of these might be pushed a little too far? hard to tell where to draw the line or when to let go of personal tastes. idk if that makes sense c:
Not birds but caught these little dudes while I was in one of the hides
i love your editing
Instead of the vignette slider use a radial gradient around ur subject, invert it, lower exposure
Its a bit nicer of an effect than the way vignette slider darkens
hah bottom left I love when ducks do that run across the water. I wanna photograph it but I'm never ready
Hey! That was made inside a cage
What kind of tent is that?
uhh not sure about the Name anymore
some kind of cheap tragopan Clone
around 100ā¬
ah this, not available anymore tho
did it guys
Ngl. Hardcore jealous. I'm gonna have to get out more.
let us know how it goes
Hier nur bisschen
Yup will do
Ok now itās less luckily
peak wildlife photography right here
Well that didnt take long
ignore quality please its just an ID photo lmao
i should buy some cheap hide
I wonder if theyre actually allowed to work here
stalkin em
Lmao yee, not gonna let them destroy the breeding walls
Just moved my tent a bit closer
Not by a lot, but enough for a cleaner background and a bit more magnification
Hard to move the tent with everything in it LMAO
Light is absolutely terrible rn but hell yeah
damn 1/800 and still 3200 iso
looks pretty great
Bro you were so right
so worth it getting up at 5 30 after only 4 hours of sleep lmao
why does everyone get nice background except for me
very thankful for my mom to tell me to come with her lmao
fook flat terrain
Eh what I'm doing rn isn't 100% allowed, I'm not allowed to walk where I walked but I know the birds aren't even noticing me so idgaf
wouldn't get pics half as nice if I wouldn't have put my tent up here
ykw imma wait for the weekend cause i have an idea
one of the places in the bee eater spot can give me some nice backgrounds but i'm not allowed to go in it
but since there's no cameras and there's no one on the weekend i'll go in
there's people that work there on week days unfortunately
ahh damn
Yeah there was that one guy who came here, filled his truck with soil and then left lmao
came back once so far around 2 hours later
did he even see you with the hide lol
if i have the time i'll go check them out again later
to see if they've moved or not
Nope lmao
slowly getting really cold
Also starting to rain again
might leave soon, been here for around 5 hours now and got 1300 pics and some videos too
i don't really like the bee eaters pics i have
I want one more pic where one is landing and has its wings spread, no luck with that one shot so far tho
but atleast i can say i've seen and photographed them too
only one i somewhat like but it's so low quality
that just needs different editing trust
Lmao
also people working there now actually make the place safe for me
this was before
now it's almost only fields
there's european rollers on that exact piece of land
EXACTLY LIKE THIS HOLY SHIT
That's good
Ohhh sick
I wanna photograph those too
wrap it up come home and send raws now
howd you find out about them
dude that I met
asked him if he knows a spot
hides might be goated
he didn't, a few days later he texted me and told me someone told him about this spot
Oh 100%
esp since I'm not wet lmao
been raining almost the whole time
welp 1st sd card full lmao
nahhh I don't wanna leave
sad it's low quality
he's just chilling there
u shoulda got closer
why the fuck are aliexpress hides like $300
cheapest i can find
eh don't wanna get too close
mine was around 100
y not
will a basic tent work
this is what i need
no idea tbh
idk if i want a hide
i like being able to move when i want
theyre breeding here, even if they don't notice me once I'm in the tent they will notice me setting everything up
And I'm only 15m away, not a lot
Plus I'm not even allowed to be here, if it would be some random place I mightve gone to like 8m or so
it's great if you know a good spot
eh depends
if the birds can see your movements because light shines through it'll still scare them
alright this is a sick last shot
gonna leave now
what time is it in france now
the bee eaters i go see aren't scared luckily
why u asking a german that lol
also it's 11:54
I'm german but yeah what he said
that perch was just sittin there?
what the fuck man
i ain't got trees that tall
not a perch that low
Yup
LMAO
well i'm going back later
imma check if they're still in that area or not
tallest trees in that area btw
wait wait wait
i think i can actually go into the place i thought i couldn't on weekdays
interesting
Ohh hell yeah
Man I dont wanna leave LMAO
Just sitting in my car rn
oh i also forgot there's a golden oriole there
it's so annoying tho
still haven't been able to get a pic of it
crazy that i have european bee eaters, european rollers and golden orioles in the same spot
that prolly feels like an oven in the summer
nothing to be jealous about lol
can't even get a nice background
so far all my shots just have the sky as a background unfortunately
Amazing
āI donāt get a nice backgroundā mf I donāt even get the bee eaters
Yeah at my spot too
Thanks!
At least 2 or 3 actually, but also havent seen one yet
They sound so amazing
this is gonna take a while lmao
Holy fast transfer speeds
Try to do 300GB with 80MB/s
Lmao
Max I can get is around 100MB/S
Just destroyed my left ankle and right knee
curse is back
Sadly doesnt stay like that for some reason lmao
wonky ahh
my v60 SD cards transfer at 260mb/s
gotta use a good reader and the correct USB port
Honey buzzard seems to be nesting here
These drops go down to 4MB/s for me
Yep
I bought a cf express reader but my pc motherboard only has one 20 gigabit USB c port and it's completely blocked so I'm not gonna be able to transfer files at maximum speed 
Cant find any bee eaters rn
The honey buzzard ate them
Trust
No way
I think I just saw a hooded crow
Gope they're not gone
Honey buzzard spit them out again
everyone's out for the bees
Just saw 2 golden orioles
not fair
Found them!
Fss the bee eaters flew off
Just qaw a fox!!
Black kite perched in front of me but i cant get close enough cause the guy is here
Lmao
oof
Thats sick tho
Welp i cant find any bee eaters rn
Found some european rollers tho
Saw some orioles but couldnt even get a shitty pic
Shite pic but finally!
Really! u have those?
@naive fiber so i can take good photos inside a cage
@grizzled nebula so the only issue with the z9 is that it doesn't have raw precap?
common buzzard??
nah
tail is wrong
actually
Yeah it is
common buzzard
I'm just stupid
I just sorted through almost 2.1k photos with no break
1.5 hours
wow
burst mode
Thanks
Was so worth it tho
Also didnt feel like 6 hours, more like 1
Super chill just sitting in the tent waiting for birds to land infront of me lmao
Fr
I go out for three hours and half an hour goes by and suddenly the three hours have passed
so
If the Z9 had RAW pre-capture, it would be better than the best camera for nature photography today.
Not fully
Depends on the lenses you have
And what is the best lens available, regardless of price?
No
Crazy heat haze rn
Ok
600mm f4
imo
If you want resolution, Z9, if 24MP is enough go for a9 iii, a lot better. Raw precap and 120fps continuous raw shooting. The slow Z9 only manages 20fps 
What does 20fps mean?
It can shoot 20 frames per second
with frames you mean photos?
Yes
Thatās nothing
š
Thatās slower than a7 V
20 pics per second is pretty fun tho
Nah
Ye
i use around 8 fps when i burst because that is my cameras sweet spot between speed and focus
My max is 10fps and was a huge step from my previous 1fps though when I get my next cam I wonāt go below 30
my camera is like a decade old or something
8fps with full autofocus is decent for the time period
Need to go home now
it can do up to 60fps raw but only with fixed focus
Dehydrated asf
i have had people tell me i need to upgrade but im not convinced because im getting pics i like as it is
my 5D is from 2005
60fps is crazy
(i dont bird with the 5D)
lumix G9
