Bird Photography

[grizzled nebula]

What?

[glossy sage]

In my pants

[green canyon]

@tough hull would you say the 200-600 is too heavy for a hike

[undone slate]

wdym by rf?

[grizzled nebula]

Thats the canon mount...

[grizzled nebula]

Surely not

[undone slate]

If you're climbing the mountain with that and the camera falls off

🤣

[undone slate]

ok

How much did it cost you?

[green canyon]

if i were to carry all my gear it'd be like 8kg (bag included)

[tough hull]

I think it’s alright but not if you have it around your neck all the time

[undone slate]

and what astro lens do u have?

[tough hull]

Before Spain I will get a backpack holder

[grizzled nebula]

I went "hiking" with the 100-500, 600, r6ii with grip, tripod and head for hours today

And the 24-105

[glossy sage]

Light work

[green canyon]

i think id opt for monopod and/or cheap tripod though, that would bring it down to 6-7kg

[green canyon]

to be fair i didnt take anything else into account

stuff you would actually need to hike 🙂

[glossy sage]

My gear is around 10kg but I use an actual Osprey hiking backpack with Osprey camera cube which distributes the weight better than any bag ive ever had

[undone slate]

10KG

💀

[naive fiber]

Nonono

[undone slate]

@grizzled nebula this?

[naive fiber]

I'm saying if the branch is too long and it has already fallen off

Then just cut it to size then

[tough hull]

Oh yeah

That’s alr

[glossy sage]

I highly recommend my setup if ur into hikes

[undone slate]

It seems very small to me.

[green canyon]

im not looking to buy new stuff sadly

no money

[undone slate]

comparing it with the 180-600mm

[glossy sage]

Feel that Goose

[naive fiber]

Yes it's a small lens

I don't know what black magic it is

[tough hull]

Get like these holders that hold the camera here on a backpack

[naive fiber]

It's the same size and weight as my 70-200

[undone slate]

And is it better than Nikon's 180-600mm lens?

[tough hull]

Idk what they are called

[glossy sage]

Yes

[undone slate]

and smaller

curious...

[naive fiber]

Neither is better

[glossy sage]

The RF 100-500 is a fantastic lens. New, small, light, top of the line glass and coatings

[naive fiber]

They are both very similar

Optically

But put weight into account the 100-500 is better

[green canyon]

100-500 is sharper im pretty sure

[glossy sage]

Not extending further out with its zoom is nice too

[naive fiber]

Apparently it's sharper wide open and the 180-600 is sharper at closed down at f8

[undone slate]

?

so nikon's 180-600mm is better

[green canyon]

no

both are good

and they have their advantages and disadvantages

[naive fiber]

No where have you got this from

[undone slate]

And what is the best lens available for wildlife photography, regardless of price?

[undone slate]

Why is the 180-600mm lens bigger?

[glossy sage]

You lose 100mm of range but the 100-500 is lighter and isn't a telescopic zoom. for me, thats the winner personally

[naive fiber]

Wildlife is such a broad category there is no best

[glossy sage]

I've been trying to snag a fantastic deal on one but haven't seen them drop below $2600

[tough hull]

Exactly

[green canyon]

more focal length and internal zoom

[tough hull]

Internal zoom 😍

[green canyon]

internal zoom is so nice to have

[undone slate]

I could do a lot of things if I had the R6 II Mark, was it the R6 II or the R6 III?

[tough hull]

wtf

[naive fiber]

This is why I wanted the 200-500

Then apparently it's ass

[undone slate]

YUMMY

[glossy sage]

Is great if the lens is small. However on a wildlife lens, at least for me, really annoying to have a lengthy boy hitting me as i walk since i attach to my backpack clip

[undone slate]

ISO 5000?

that's a lot

[glossy sage]

Google them?

[green canyon]

meh

not on any modern camera

[undone slate]

And one question, the R6 II runs on batteries, right?

[tough hull]

Nah

[glossy sage]

AI remove on the sky or sensor/lens dirt?

[green canyon]

like every camera, yes

[undone slate]

my camera at 1600

☠️

[wide flint]

no, solar panels

[undone slate]

that'd great

[glossy sage]

Japan is turning footsteps into electricity to power Canon cameras

[green canyon]

my a67 runs on fusion energy

[wide flint]

F14 is weirder than the iso here

[tender galleon]

no you need to feed it grass

[wide flint]

It would seem rather impractical and non-sensical to me

[undone slate]

idk

[tender galleon]

same that my dog does, out n in

[undone slate]

maybe a small solar panel will be good

[undone slate]

My chickens also

[wide flint]

Good for what exactly?

[undone slate]

charging while i'm taking photos

[tender galleon]

you dont want extra weight

thats useless too

[undone slate]

idk

[glossy sage]

Panel would be 2smol

[wide flint]

The size of a solar panel you can realistically fit on a camera will probably get you around 1% extra charge per hour or something

[undone slate]

i really want to have THAT CAMERA

I could take some great photos

[green canyon]

weren't you going to get the z6iii

[wide flint]

Your camera really isn't holding you back from taking great photo's, it's your skill

[tender galleon]

i wouldnt jinx it too much tbh

[green canyon]

the r6ii is good but id rather have the z6iii

[undone slate]

They told me the R6 II was better

[glossy sage]

Get a SonyHX80

Good upgrade for you

[undone slate]

💀

[green canyon]

tbh it somewhat is but there are different things he should improve on yes

[undone slate]

i have skill

I've also been doing photography since January

so yeah

[green canyon]

yeah thats pretty short

[undone slate]

I improved a lot and in a short time

If I had a good camera...

[wide flint]

In some ways yeah, but judging from their pictures I've seen so far the camera isn't the main issue by a long shot

[tender galleon]

lowkey i would recommend something like canon 5d II and 100-400mm L II

[green canyon]

yeah, especially stuff like backgrounds

[glossy sage]

Their lack of RAW files makes their editing dang near impossible and cropping is not really viable at all for them either. I can't wait for them to get a camera though and ask us what every button in DarkTable does

[green canyon]

mhm

[undone slate]

But i get good photos sometime

[green canyon]

i guess entry level mirrorless would be fine too

[tender galleon]

yeah if he wants to hop to mirrorless

[glossy sage]

Cheap DSLR and a sigma art 600mm zoom lens

[naive fiber]

No its nuclear

[green canyon]

this one was pretty decent but its still somewhat boring, the goose isnt doing anything, there's no scenery that would make it more interesting

[undone slate]

It would be great for photographing birds at a feeder or birds that are next to me.

[wide flint]

Yeah it surely doesn't help indeed. But most of their pictures suffer more from a lack of knowledge, skill and creativity than a bad crop or edit

[glossy sage]

Thats like 90% of #🦀・creatures .. me included

[green canyon]

its 150-600 contemporary or sport

[naive fiber]

That's not long lol

[green canyon]

or 60-600

[glossy sage]

Contemporary*

[undone slate]

i know

[green canyon]

?

[glossy sage]

I meant contemporary

[green canyon]

ah

[undone slate]

That's why I say I progressed in a short time.

[green canyon]

you have more to learn

[undone slate]

what

[naive fiber]

I mean like

[undone slate]

things

[glossy sage]

If u have the money just learn with a better camera

[naive fiber]

I took the bluetit photo in 2 and a half weeks of bird photography

[green canyon]

true

[glossy sage]

-# I don't think they make money though

[green canyon]

but iirc he doesn't rn

[naive fiber]

G2 is better than contemporary right

Unrelated but just asking

[tender galleon]

yeah if you want to impress viewers and make the photo have a meaning you need to focus on the moment more. get good angles, make the subject 3d and give the photo a story. its not just snapping a pic tbh

[green canyon]

i dont think so

[undone slate]

When did you start with photography?

[naive fiber]

When I was 6

[wide flint]

You're still very new to this hobby, there's so much to learn, especially in bird photography that it's not really transferable in a single message. But your knowledge on how to approach birds, what spots to spend your time at seems to be the biggest problem rn.

[magic crown]

Okay guys i found my next cam for wildlife
Totally lightweight

[naive fiber]

BBC has a couple of these

[wide flint]

ayo what esports event is that?>

[naive fiber]

It's 30k a lens

[magic crown]

ZLAN

[undone slate]

yeah

[green canyon]

get hired by a nature channel

[tough hull]

Damn I wouldn’t lol

[tender galleon]

i started last fall and using a 10 year old dslr

[grizzled nebula]

Something in my phone's lens

[tough hull]

Yeah teeny tiny sensor. Mine way better. My highest iso is 104.000 or something

[glossy sage]

Is this an esports thing

[naive fiber]

3 SWALLOWS JUST FLEW PAST MY WINDOW WTF???

[magic crown]

Yeah for the ZLAN event

[tough hull]

Yes and?

lol

[naive fiber]

Lmao I have never seen one here

Like 5cm away from my window

[glossy sage]

Swallows are winter birds here

[grizzled nebula]

Yes

[naive fiber]

Up north yeah but not south

[tough hull]

I photographed a house Martin in a nest today

Should have used slower shutter tbh

[naive fiber]

Swallow season ended a short while ago

[tough hull]

What

That’s crazy

They arrived here like a few weeks ago

lol

[naive fiber]

Yeah peak was april

[tough hull]

Crazy

You in London should have a lot of peregrine falcons right?

[naive fiber]

yeah we do

Don't see them though

They mainly live in central London

There's a nest in an art gallery near me

[tough hull]

David Attenborough helped to introduce them there after they got extinct there

[tough hull]

Nice

[naive fiber]

pretty awful for photography though

Middle of the built up city

[naive fiber]

Yeah he did

[undone slate]

and this photo

what's bad

about it

[naive fiber]

Red kites I don't see much off which down south

[undone slate]

if there's smth bad

[naive fiber]

Mainly in Scotland area

Ect

[tender galleon]

ugly bird imo

[undone slate]

they're so cute

[naive fiber]

Dude everything is cute to you

[undone slate]

also spiders

man

this is

so cute

little dinosaur

[tough hull]

It’s too much zoomed in plus sharp background

[grizzled nebula]

I have black kites, short toed snake eagles and kestrels in the area where i live

[tough hull]

I see so many red kites

[undone slate]

Isn't that a good photo?

i quite like it

[naive fiber]

Black kites mainly for me

[tender galleon]

he just said

[tough hull]

It would be but too zoomed in

[undone slate]

but why?

[naive fiber]

I went to a sanctuary a bit ago which is 8h away from me

[tough hull]

Hella rare here

[tender galleon]

if you like it its good

[tough hull]

I have seen one so far

[undone slate]

Yep

[tough hull]

And red kites I have seen like 30 or more

[naive fiber]

Wow holy shot

[tough hull]

Nice

[undone slate]

english birds names are quite strange

[tough hull]

Yeah

[glossy sage]

It'll start for me in October/November. I saw one the other week flying around, not sure why its still here

[tender galleon]

yeah coal tit in finnish is kuusitiainen which means spruce tit

[tough hull]

In German a peregrine falcon is called wanderfalke which is if you translate the individual words a hiking falcon or like migrating falcon

Kestrels are turmfalken which means towerfalcon

[undone slate]

In Spanish, names tend to have more meaning, I think.

[naive fiber]

Tit means small

Afaik

[tough hull]

Because they nisted in towers, but now mostly houses

[undone slate]

For example, the black kite has the name of a tool that has a dovetail (the tool is called MILANO in Spanish).

[naive fiber]

Dovetail tool I haven't heard of

[tough hull]

Tits are meisen. Kohlmeise=great tit, Langschwanzmeise is long tailed tit, Tannenmeise is Coal tit, Blaumeise is blue tit

[naive fiber]

Joint yes

[naive fiber]

God why is everything so long

[undone slate]

idk if it's called like that

probably not

anyways

[tough hull]

Oh interesting in German the red kite is a Rotmilan

[undone slate]

i'm gonna go birding

[undone slate]

Nice

[tough hull]

It isn’t

You know what’s long?

Rinderetikettierungsüberwachungsschutzgesetz

[undone slate]

I don't think I'll find any birds, but oh well, I'll go see if I can find a log (I won't find one).

[undone slate]

WHAT'S THAT

[tough hull]

Some law about monitoring bull etiquette thing idk

[undone slate]

i wish i could take this photo

[naive fiber]

I made up my mind

[undone slate]

but it's impossible

[naive fiber]

I'm never learning this language

[tough hull]

Hahaha

[undone slate]

same 💀

i'm only learning english

i like english

and it's probably the best language

[tough hull]

The harder a language is the easier it is for the people who speak it to learn new languages

[tough hull]

No

It’s easy

So it’s not good

[undone slate]

it's good

[tough hull]

Languages must be hard

[undone slate]

it sounds better than spanish to me

[naive fiber]

Isn't English one of the hardest languages to learn because of the bullshit grammar

[undone slate]

and i'm spanish

[tough hull]

English has so much irregular shit

[undone slate]

yes

[tough hull]

Not hard

[undone slate]

but english sounds better to me

AND I'M SPANISH

[green canyon]

german bias

[tough hull]

Like you just gotta memorize which is irregular

[undone slate]

i wish english would be my native language

honestly...

[green canyon]

not at all

[undone slate]

well

[tough hull]

And not 30 laws which have to be applied to every word

[undone slate]

bye

[naive fiber]

From Germanic and romantic languages it's easy

[undone slate]

bye

[green canyon]

and it very much depends on which language is your native language

[naive fiber]

If I was a mandarin speaker I would be like

这简直是胡扯

Apparently mandarin and Hindi speakers don't know their "the" in English

Which makes sense

[tough hull]

Like The has a ton of different translations in German: Der, die, das, dieser, diese, dieses…

[green canyon]

Atleast german is uniform for the most part

unlike french

just with a butt ton of rules

[tough hull]

Idk French luckily

I wanna learn Finnish

[green canyon]

im thinking about learning Norwegian
might go there when i study for a semester

[naive fiber]

I hate french

Can I drop this fuckass subject

[green canyon]

sorry aarvs

[tough hull]

Yes

[grizzled nebula]

I hate u

[green canyon]

I speak German and English fluent, French and Dutch well enough to communicate in most situations

[tough hull]

I speak English so fluent, people ask me if I’m British sometimes 💀

I hate that

[green canyon]

lmao

[tough hull]

I wanna sound American

But I can’t

[green canyon]

english is just easy like that

[green canyon]

nahhhh

british better

[tough hull]

I speak a mix of it ngl

[green canyon]

i try to lean British

[tough hull]

I spent 12 weeks in the US so far

[green canyon]

but im kind of used to American English

[green canyon]

damn

[tough hull]

I can unde Brit’s worse than Americans

[green canyon]

doesnt really matter to me

[tough hull]

Man I felt so tuff in kindergarten because I knew like five English words

Lmao

[green canyon]

I still wrote sch as "s"

[tough hull]

I still remember which my two fav words were : five & snake

[green canyon]

no differentiation

[green canyon]

five is a good word

[tough hull]

Ye

[naive fiber]

bro this language sucks to learn

[tough hull]

I had English as my second language at school so I had it first in 6th grade and in 6th grade was the preparation for the bilingual geography classes which you needed to have had English classes in fith grade before which I hadn’t but I was good enough that they allowed me in the course lmao

[naive fiber]

france is a cool place and all though

[tough hull]

Definitely

[naive fiber]

pretty cheap flights too!

[tough hull]

France and Germany probably are the top countries for technology

And britian

We have airbus all together and the coolest cars

France has Bugatti, Britain Rolls Royce (very tuff) and Germany has Mercedes, BMW, Audi etc.

But in general my favorite in Europe is Finland

[gilded yarrow]

huh

By being low to the ground

[tough hull]

Damn that’s a lot of reflection

I have been trying a long time but the lighting is so shit always

[tender galleon]

finland mentioned

https://tenor.com/view/scream-if-you-love-finland-finland-i-love-finland-scream-finland-finland-scream-gif-496655312649171179

[tough hull]

Yes

I love Finland

So cool birds

So cool animals

[gilded yarrow]

Yee perfect conditions

[unborn frost]

When capturing birds in flight do increase f stop ti get a deeper focal plane? I tried taking some pics of a raptor but i cant tell what's wrong. Idk if its haze or just bad straight up bad settings

Ill send pics later

[spring vault]

id shoot wide open otherwise at 1/4000 u'll be a trillion iso

[tough hull]

That’s gonna be important

[tough hull]

Nah

I personally for swallows go 1/2500-1/3200 at f9-11

[spring vault]

insane

[tough hull]

If light allows it

Otherwise just wide open

[gilded yarrow]

I always shoot wide open too

no need to stop down for sharpness with the 200-600, and focal plane is usually big enough

mmmmm sharpness

and that bokeh

• the reflection in the eye

perfect

[spring vault]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1198333040448000104/1505048288112676905/DSC06156-Enhanced-NR.png?ex=6a0b2f32&is=6a09ddb2&hm=96a8c27f8a7c90c3c92e4f0d2865fc26cebb700a51edbd2966b0d183b5c0f9a3&

this would be 6400 iso if I was f11 and it was daylight n sunny

cameras also generally af slower when stopped down that much

[tough hull]

Depends lol. When I shot the ducklings I used f9 because they moved so fast and up close it was hard nailing the focus since too often the camera focused on the body and not on the head.

[tough hull]

How much is this cropped?

[spring vault]

from 50mp to 20mp

so about apsc crop

[tough hull]

Yeah well 50MP you can crop a lot so more is in focus at starting point already if you focus further away

I just go f9 if I want the whole subject in focus and that’s when they are up close

[spring vault]

I don't find the need to stop down for more dof unless I'm basically at min focus dist and gl doin mfd bif

I need 400 2.8

[tough hull]

I was mfd for ducklings lol

I had sharp eyes and slightly out of focus beaks

So annoying

F9

[undone slate]

Could I take a good picture of a Fischer's lovebird in a cage?

[spring vault]

we were talking about bif tho

[tough hull]

Oh bird in flight

My bad

[undone slate]

what's bif?

[tough hull]

I just said it bro

[naive fiber]

no

probably not

[undone slate]

ahh yes

[undone slate]

why

[naive fiber]

because its in a cage

[tough hull]

What about big birds like swans in flight? I mean you can get focused body and out of focus head very easily lol

The other way round it’s nice yeah

[undone slate]

and

[tough hull]

But sometimes you want the full bird in focus

[undone slate]

is this a good photo

[tough hull]

No

[undone slate]

why

[tough hull]

Cage

[undone slate]

yes

so it's impossible to take a good photo 😭

[naive fiber]

😭

yes basically

[tough hull]

Yes

[undone slate]

🙁

😭

[naive fiber]

unless you have a very specific aim about like conservationism

and know what you are doing

[tough hull]

Not allowed in a lot of contests too since they don’t allow pets or zoo animals

[naive fiber]

thats like the only option here

[tough hull]

At least the contests I know about

[undone slate]

why

[undone slate]

wdym

[tough hull]

Because they aren’t native there obviously and it’s not in its natural habitat?

[barren yoke]

Lol 🤷‍♀️ do whatever yall want

[tough hull]

Lmao

So you actually get online

Did you do any bird photography in the previous months?

[barren yoke]

Yup! I saw a northern parula!

Let me go find some pictures to share

Here's a few from the past weeks

[naive fiber]

The americas have some of the best birds lol

Great pics

[barren yoke]

Thank you

I was really excited about the northern parula

[barren yoke]

I did indeed

Do yall just randomly @ me to see if I'm still alive lmaooo

[tough hull]

idk i just thought ill do it

if you look it up this is the only time i tagged you

[barren yoke]

Well I mean overall I get a few tags

I dont mind i forget this exists

[trim fox]

it is in an obscure place

[naive fiber]

Sadly

We need to bring the birding wonders to the masses

Along with the immense debt in the wallet

[barren yoke]

Lmao

[barren yoke]

Well I dont really use discord anymore

[undone slate]

what's that?

[pure belfry]

Eastern Rosella

[undone slate]

nice

[undone slate]

Your first message here in 2 years

[naive fiber]

never seen this before but beautiful shots

what lens is this?

[pure belfry]

A couple in that old batch. Sigma 150-600 C, Tamron 150-600 G2, Sigma 120-300/2.8 and Sony 200-600.

[naive fiber]

I see

Was just astounded by that bokeh

[naive fiber]

Looks so clueless

[grizzled nebula]

ik the eye is out of focus but still like it

[naive fiber]

the sea is nice with the colour

[hidden wyvern]

chirping nearby

[grizzled nebula]

they were too far away to get good pics

[undone slate]

what's that

baby purple swamphen?

man

i really want to photograph this thing

[grizzled nebula]

wait wtf never noticed these baby gulls!!

[glossy sage]

Just got photos of a red wing blackbird in flight. Hoping no rolling shutter

[naive fiber]

sick

cool bird

[undone slate]

why

oh ok

[undone slate]

🐦‍⬛

[undone slate]

blacbird

[undone slate]

wait

that's not a blackbird

[grizzled nebula]

no

[undone slate]

OHh ok

red wing

[undone slate]

i can't see the red

[grizzled nebula]

?

who said it was a redwing?????????????????????????

It's a jackdaw..

[grizzled nebula]

https://tenor.com/view/an-iq-too-low-raven-crow-real-science-low-i-q-gif-17338607635233300977

[undone slate]

It looks too much like a robin

[naive fiber]

thats not aarvs is it

[undone slate]

no

mango

[grizzled nebula]

what the fuck does that have to do with the image i sent

[undone slate]

no no no

i was answering mango

wait

replying

[grizzled nebula]

he didn't send an image so..

[undone slate]

wait

v

Instead of reading aarvs I read mango

[glossy sage]

Epic background

Roseated spoonbill

[grizzled nebula]

i wanna see a spoonbill

[undone slate]

SAME

[grizzled nebula]

i went to camargue last month to try and see them but didn't manage to find them unfortunately

[wide flint]

Damn you don't have like 5 different breeding colonies around your house?

L

[tough hull]

what in gods name is trhat? black bvaby swan

[tough hull]

bro i should go to bed i cant type on computer no more lmao

[wide flint]

Juvenile eurasian coot

They look funky as hell with their red heads

[tough hull]

https://discord.com/channels/728905379274162177/1497374316680052756

[grizzled nebula]

baby moorhen

[tough hull]

never seen those babies lol#

[tough hull]

ah

makles more sense

wtf

[grizzled nebula]

not around my house lol

[tough hull]

I just packed most of my stuff for sweden

[grizzled nebula]

everything is a few hours away

[tough hull]

in 5 days im going

cant wait

[wide flint]

wait really?

[tough hull]

ye

[grizzled nebula]

yep

[wide flint]

man i'm fucking tired 😭

[tough hull]

they look cool

[tough hull]

not only you

[grizzled nebula]

baby coots have a fully red head i believe

red yellow

and there were only moorhens lol

[tough hull]

@wide flint send the image in fish photography

[grizzled nebula]

i saw 1 greebe but couldn't get a picture

[tough hull]

what kind

[grizzled nebula]

mf kept diving

[grizzled nebula]

little grebe

[tough hull]

little?

k

they are little idiots

[grizzled nebula]

they're cute

[tough hull]

if they see you and its a bigger body of water, they are gone man

they swimm like fish anbd very fast

first time i saw one up close i was 1m away and the moment i took the shot it heard my D3100s mirror, dove down and i did not see it again

there are around 8 of them at my birding spot

[grizzled nebula]

it was a little pond but everytime it turned my camera towards it it would just dive again instantly

annoying that there was a fence

[tough hull]

you gotta hide and cant move

they key thing is when you see it, wait till it dives for food (not because you scare it) then you get your cam ready in the direction where it dove down so when it comes up you can take the shot

worked for me like that

well kinda

anyway imma go to bed now so gn

[grizzled nebula]

gn

[naive fiber]

Little owl

Nightmare noises

[glossy sage]

I have photos of baby coots, gallinules, and a sand piper somewhere on my pc

[spring vault]

hit em with the 3:1 aspect ratio

[glossy sage]

I want swallow

Always flying too high and while im driving

[spring vault]

they like to fly low over water catching bugs

[naive fiber]

Ok so were do I find red kites

[glossy sage]

My AF with this lens is very frustrating. Ive seen peoples results with my camera and a newer lens so ik its me. Its always too far forward with this lens pain

[spring vault]

idk the sky

[naive fiber]

Pretty broad

That’s pretty helpful

Who else is from the uk here?

@dark ermine I may be hallucinating here but you are right?

I can’t remember lmao

[glossy sage]

This snake feedin on a baby European sterling nest

Watched it slither straight in the youngins hole

Pause that sounds wrong

[naive fiber]

Ok I actually couldnt work out what this means in context

[glossy sage]

We watched the snake slither into the young European Sterling's nest, which is a hole in this palm

[hidden wyvern]

two versions but happy with either

also seen another jay picking up nesting material

[naive fiber]

Right that make sense lol

[fast knoll]

vermilion flycatchers from today

[hidden wyvern]

different birds than usual, need to find them again

[glossy sage]

i like the wider crop better

[glossy sage]

Breedin season. Gettin them nests nice and plush

[grizzled nebula]

Mc Wren

[unborn frost]

So here's a few, it looks like I've straight up missed focus, but while taking the pictures it was locked on to the face/eye and I'm at 1600/2500 for most of these with ISO 250/500. I've cranked up the shadows cause the RAW is way too dark. I don't know if it is an AF issue or haze or something else. I took a picture of a stray cat that popped up, and AF tracking, etc., was working perfectly fine.

Also these are heavily cropped/screenshots

[hidden wyvern]

yeah, got sunburned myself so can tell in two ways lol. didnt think of it as it was cloudy earlier, but it is springtime

[fast knoll]

combo of backlit and heavy crop is giving u that poor quality

u gotta ettr for that

[hidden wyvern]

all the new warblers as well going around

[fast knoll]

this was shot with a cloudy background similar to yours

i darkened it in post and added tint to make a fake sky lol

[unborn frost]

that is one clean picture of a baby coot. Whenever ive tried the fuzz just throws the camera off

[unborn frost]

sorry, whats ettr?

[fast knoll]

expose to the right

[unborn frost]

ahhh

[fast knoll]

shooting against a cloudy sky is always pretty annoying

[unborn frost]

fair enough, I think i was excited to get a shot of the kite. Was annoyed things didnt work out but its nested near my house so ill try again some other time

[finite flower]

nice pf

[fast knoll]

thanks

i have a lot more now after i went to one of their nesting sites

[grizzled nebula]

moorhen*

quality is quite horrible lol

[unborn frost]

ah i thought coots and moorhens were the same

[grizzled nebula]

moorhen's have a red beak and coots have a white beak

[unborn frost]

for the subject its decent imo. even if ive steadied myself theres something about the fuzz on the chicks that just fks with my camera. I got some adolescent pictures which ill post later on. (I think theyre of moorhens)

[grizzled nebula]

the landscape was beautiful

and the gulls were cool

pheasents literally everywhere on this island

[dark ermine]

birmingham....Alabama 😄

[dark ermine]

this shot is beautiful

[fast knoll]

thank you!

[unborn frost]

quick and dirty edit on this one. just wanted to get something out c: hopfully will get some better shots soon

[grizzled nebula]

gn

[fast knoll]

how many mp is this crop?

i think it's just too far away

[unborn frost]

How do you figure out cropped mp? Can you do it from LR or is it from the image properties? And yeah i guess its too far to get any thing worthwhile :I

[fast knoll]

both

if u go to lightroom and press "i" it'll show the dimensions

basically u multiply them then divide by 1 million but u can also just add a decimal after the first digit and multiply them same shit

so this photo is aobut 3.8 x 2.5 = 9.5 mp

[deep vigil]

im sorry but is this bird feeding that other bird??

[fast knoll]

yep

looks like starling parent and baby

[deep vigil]

i didnt know birds kept doing that outside of their nest phase

[shut hazel]

Boop

[remote remnant]

ducc

[tough hull]

THATS A GOOSE BRO

[tough hull]

Too much cropping and missed focus

[tender galleon]

my bus stop birds

[tough hull]

Curlew????

[tender galleon]

yea

lots of them here

[undone slate]

@tough hull So what are the main reasons why they recommend the R6 II instead of the Z6 III?

[naive fiber]

Oh

Nevermind then!

[bitter trench]

A few rough shots I managed to grab. Annoyed I couldn't get clearer shots but didn't have my gear set up for birds. I was walking down a major road with no tree cover or water nearby.

[unborn frost]

Ah okay. Ill let you know later today, im interested myself.

[bitter trench]

Damn, all my photos I took in Korea are super blurry. My 300mm just couldnt reach

[gilded yarrow]

someone wants to buy my pics for educational use

the fuck

[tough hull]

Raw precap I prefer. Plus it’s cheaper. There are also better high end lenses I would like to have.

[tough hull]

Who lol

I mean ain’t it good if they wanna buy it?

[gilded yarrow]

Ofc it is, would be super sick if that works

[tough hull]

Yeah lol

I am doing a paid photoshoot in a month lol not wildlife and I’m kinda worried imma fuck up lol

It’s a youth award ceremony or something idk and they wanted a young photographer lol

[grizzled nebula]

which crop?

[gilded yarrow]

1

100%

[green canyon]

1

[green canyon]

how much are they offering

and how many

[gilded yarrow]

Not sure yet

[gilded yarrow]

they want my kestrel pics and said I should tell them a price

[grizzled nebula]

maybe i need to raise the whites back a bit

[tough hull]

Yeah

[tough hull]

Well did they tell you what educational purpose

[grizzled nebula]

well rain has stopped for now

gonna go back to the birds

[tough hull]

Like in a textbook or something

[grizzled nebula]

omfg

almost just broke the 600

[green canyon]

you should probably consult some of the people who make money with their pictures here

[tough hull]

Nooooo

[grizzled nebula]

forgot it was right next to me and i hit it with my knee 💀

thank fuck i have good reflexes

[tough hull]

I didn’t last time

[gilded yarrow]

Yee a Website/App for learning for your hunting license

[gilded yarrow]

Lmao that happened to me on saturday

had my 200-600 on the floor next to me on its lens cap, knocked it over with my knee but caught it

lesson learned

[tough hull]

Fortunately it didn’t break

I will lay out carpet in my room though still this year

I do so much with my camera gear also in my room like packing, cleaning etc. I don’t wanna risk anything anymore

[grizzled nebula]

Won’t be staying out for much longer

Lightning is starting

[gilded yarrow]

I wanna go photograph the bee eaters again on wednesday, not sure yet tho because it might rain and I might not even have my car

[grizzled nebula]

I wanna go see them tomorrow maybe

[tough hull]

Take pics

[gilded yarrow]

I got no school on wednesday so would be perfect, rain would be kinda meh tho

Replicate my kingfisher pic but with bee eaters maybe lmao

take my tent with me

Just chill there the whole day

[grizzled nebula]

Cant see it for now

[tough hull]

What focal lengths you got?

[grizzled nebula]

No school on wednesdays????

[gilded yarrow]

only this wednesday lol

[grizzled nebula]

Oh wednesday

Warra autocorrect lmao

In my last year of school i had about 40 days off due to teachers being absent

[gilded yarrow]

Lool sick

[undone slate]

1- excelent
2- i like it
3- i don't like it

[green canyon]

i have a little baby bird sitting in my tree

he doesnt know how to be scared of humans yet

free pictures

[undone slate]

I only saw it once in the woods and it ran away. I don't know how you managed to take that picture. Is it cropped?

[undone slate]

But why does that camera have fewer megapixels?

[undone slate]

This is probably a silly question, but that's not your picture, is it?

[magic crown]

it's mine

[undone slate]

Oh really?

[magic crown]

on the exif data from the cam

[undone slate]

That was a crop, wasn't it?

It's a very close-up photo

[magic crown]

barely cropped

[undone slate]

Pretty nice

Was it a coincidence that the crow landed so close?
And how did you get that gray background?

[magic crown]

i always put my digital signature on the exif that's a proof that shot is mine

[undone slate]

yep

[magic crown]

not really it was curious about me they are very smart

and for the background it's just grayscaled it and played with the light on lightroom

[undone slate]

wdym

[undone slate]

Nice work!

and do u have a a6400?

It has impressive quality.

[magic crown]

They come in a group one creates a diversion and the other steals what I have in hand and at this moment it was a sandwich

(hopefully they didn't steal it)

[magic crown]

the lens did mostly the job

[undone slate]

wow

I mean, we don't really know that intelligence is

[magic crown]

they are really smart birds

[undone slate]

I call ability the way one does things or how one plans things

[tough hull]

No it doesn’t

[undone slate]

um

nikon z6 iii- 24,5
r6 ii- 24,1

[tough hull]

6048 x 4032
Vs
6000 x 4000

No difference

[undone slate]

i know

yeah

[tough hull]

If it’s about megapixels go Sony

[undone slate]

I only want quality

that's all probably

[tough hull]

a7 V has 32.9

[undone slate]

and good ISO levels

[tough hull]

That’s all modern cams

[magic crown]

corvids can use tools (even create tools), have complex social bonds (they mourn the loss of friends or loved ones for example), they feel joy and can play just for fun

[undone slate]

not all i think

Do you know where I can buy it second-hand and what the minimum price is?

[tough hull]

All newer ilcs from the bigger brands

[undone slate]

and why is nikon more expensive?

[undone slate]

what's ilcs

[tough hull]

Idk I gotta continue learning physics

[tough hull]

Interchangeable Lens Cameras

[undone slate]

why physics?

[undone slate]

Ok

[tough hull]

BECAUSE I have a test upcoming

[grizzled nebula]

So does the r6iii

[charred holly]

ye, both are pretty much the same camera

[grizzled nebula]

R6iii has opengate

[undone slate]

What do you think about me buying your camera instead of the Z6 III?

[tough hull]

Ye idk the price on it

[undone slate]

💀

[tough hull]

A7V has too? Iykyk

30fps

[grizzled nebula]

Idk bro

[grizzled nebula]

R6iii has 40 fps

[tough hull]

Ye

It’s better

[undone slate]

🤷

[charred holly]

But it block the camera when buffer is full

[tough hull]

Won’t be full

I’ve got CFexpress

If I had a7 V ofc

lol

[undone slate]

@grizzled nebula idk if i already ask u this

Do you have any landscape photos of the Milky Way?

[charred holly]

I have yet to find a situation where buffer size hold me back tbh

[tough hull]

How big is it lol

[undone slate]

I say this because I want to know how the R6 II performs.

[tough hull]

A 7 IV has like idk 14-15 images for buffer I think

[charred holly]

In the contrary, having to roam 30 images everytime I precap is quite cumbersome

[undone slate]

Isn't there a cheaper website?

[grizzled nebula]

No

[undone slate]

u should try

[grizzled nebula]

Its good

[undone slate]

i think

[undone slate]

I suppose

[tough hull]

Yeah good as any other camera

Only problem is that many programs don’t take CR3 files

[undone slate]

I wish this camera cost 900 euros

👀

[tough hull]

Meaning you gotta convert them properly

[undone slate]

But isn't it raw?

I haven't learned about astrophotography yet.

[tough hull]

CR3 is raw file

[undone slate]

astrophotography programs

[undone slate]

So what should I photograph with a camera for that?

if i could

wow

with the r6 ii

[grizzled nebula]

If u want easy astro with canon u need a dslr

[undone slate]

why a dslr?

[charred holly]

Holy shit https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-31711446

[undone slate]

But you mean easy, I don't care about the difficulty.

[undone slate]

omg

[grizzled nebula]

Cause they use cr2 which most softwares can take

[undone slate]

And why can't mirrorless cameras do that?

Do you think they could with an update or not?

[tough hull]

Wasn’t the guy that shot this on this server here?

[undone slate]

really?

[grizzled nebula]

Cause they use cr3 which 90% of astro softwares will not be able to use

[undone slate]

so, that's the only issue

[tough hull]

I’m not sure

I mean over discord we are almost all connected

[glossy sage]

Previews lookin like I mightve cooked

[tough hull]

I met the winner of the Sony youth photographer of the year on another server

[glossy sage]

These are tons of photos stacked on top of each other using a very wide lens like a Samyang

If you wanna do things like these (credit to @bright willow ) you need a whole telescope setup

[undone slate]

how do u prove that?

I would say that most photographers are not here

professionals or advanced ones idk

[undone slate]

telescope...

💸

🍚 💀

so expensive

maybe in a few years

but not for now

[glossy sage]

All of photography is expensive

[undone slate]

astrophotography a lot mroe

More

if u want only landscape photography i mean

[glossy sage]

Wildlife is somewhat on the cheaper side with landscapes because you don't really need extra gear for it besides body and lens
However, landscape if you get into filters 😄

[undone slate]

u only need camera and lens

[undone slate]

Yeah

[undone slate]

cameras should be cheaper

there's a lot of missed talent because of that probably

[glossy sage]

meh

[undone slate]

and

when can a person consider advanced

in photography

[glossy sage]

idk 🤷

[undone slate]

Same

@glossy sage is ur camera better or the r6 ii

[glossy sage]

I get out of the house to take photos because I enjoy it. I don't care what the pros are doin too much and who they are

[glossy sage]

Its the same autofocus and sensor. The R6 II has upgraded battery life, IBIS, and dual sim cards

[undone slate]

but u take really good photos

[undone slate]

only that

[glossy sage]

R8 is lighter I guess as well. If you can spend the couple hundred extra I'd go a R6 series

Canon usually R(lower number) -> higher quality series

You don't need to start at the best stuff

You can buy an old DSLR with an older telescopic sport lens and get great results

[grizzled nebula]

They have similarities but the r6ii is better

R8 is more than enough for what you want to do

[gilded yarrow]

canon r00 when

[glossy sage]

@magic crown #🦀・creatures message
This photo somehow has made me like a raven (I think they are ugly)
but the beak 🥲

[gilded yarrow]

120mp, 240fps burst

[grizzled nebula]

Canon r

[glossy sage]

Canon s

[glossy sage]

Yes "only" that stuff but the battery life upgrade is huge, IBIS is massive, and dual sim cards is a nice to have

Battery life + IBIS makes the R6 II way better than the R8 IMO. I have to bring spare batteries with me and have them full charged every trip

[grizzled nebula]

Ibis is nice but not super special

[gilded yarrow]

Not having ibis must suck so bad

[glossy sage]

If you ever wanna record something on the go I imagine its very very nice

[grizzled nebula]

Most video shooters i believe dont want ibis

[glossy sage]

A few times I wanna just get a quick video of something and then replay it and every micro stutter is painfully obvious

[tough hull]

Yeah well many people have discord nowadays and it’s not 100% obviously lol

[tough hull]

Not really

More like 100-200photos max

Or this guy sucks at editing

[glossy sage]

How is that "not really"

[tough hull]

That’s nothing

I did 5.7k

[glossy sage]

For a single landscape subject?

[tough hull]

That’s a lot

[tough hull]

Yes

No

For Ha it is not that much

[glossy sage]

ha?

[tough hull]

Hydrogen alpha

Aka infrared

If you have a modded camera you do 100-200 shots very often for these amounts

[glossy sage]

Thats the milkyway bro

[tough hull]

It has Ha

[glossy sage]

On a good night you can get the milkyway even with an iphone in nightmode

I digress, its still photos stacked together. I was talking about the technique not arguing on what "a ton" is interpreted as

[fast knoll]

davinci resolve

[magic crown]

https://youtu.be/LpfQjgo9b_0

damn this new lens is really strong on most point

[tough hull]

Yeah but normal Milky Way everyone can do

[fast knoll]

looks pretty sick

[tough hull]

The astrophotographers always do more

[fast knoll]

just a bit short

[tough hull]

100 shots is not a lot for them

[glossy sage]

I have it, no clue how to use it
Also I wanna borrow ur 100-500 ok, tired of this RF -> EF adapted AF

[magic crown]

yeah 500mm will be better

[fast knoll]

lol what lens do u have again

[glossy sage]

Tamron SP G2 150-600mm and firmware upgraded

[fast knoll]

honestly the takeoff precapture isn't perfect but it gets the job done sometimes

[glossy sage]

I really hate bugs. Why did I capture this, I don't wanna look in my library now

[undone slate]

so u could take a photo with the same quality as the r6 ii?

[undone slate]

They're so cool

[glossy sage]

This depends more on the lens and environment but yes? Its the same sensor

A cheap <$1000 DSLR can take a better photo than a r6 ii if it has better glass

[undone slate]

yeah but i think the price of lenses between r6 ii and a cheap dslr camera are similar

[spring vault]

I watched a buncha reviews and it seems the way to go is to have this + 400-800. Its not really worth putting TC on. With a 1.4x its about equal sharpness with 200-600.

[glossy sage]

Stupid dragonfly the bird is chasing stole my autofocus

[fast knoll]

looks like it focused on nothing lol

[magic crown]

i think the best combo is 200-600+aps-c body

that's make a 300-900mm wich is quite pretty good

[glossy sage]

Nothing is really in focus, but it didn't even attempt the right object . Unlucky

[spring vault]

[undone slate]

only 400mm

for me at least 500mm

[magic crown]

yeah 500mm will be better but still a good lens

[naive fiber]

1

[spring vault]

id like to see a 200-600 gen 2 with upgraded stab and sharpness I think that would be peak. 400-800 is a bit much a lot of the time

[naive fiber]

I like the pine

[undone slate]

yeah

[magic crown]

yeah maybe one day who knows

[undone slate]

what's pine?

[naive fiber]

400mm is still a decent amount

[undone slate]

But most of the time you'll be cropping

[glossy sage]

if ur in a zoo

[undone slate]

idk if nat geo photographers do that

[undone slate]

[naive fiber]

Only with small birds

Big birds you may not

You will most likely always crop with small birds

[glossy sage]

nat goe photographers have camera setups they didn't have to personally pay for

[undone slate]

lucky people 😭

[glossy sage]

So don't compare people here to them

[undone slate]

yeah

[naive fiber]

They earnt it

[undone slate]

idk if is there a big difference between 720mm vs 500mm

[undone slate]

Maybe

idk

[glossy sage]

Anyone here have good Osprey photos?

@magic crown Perchance?

[naive fiber]

Obviously they would

They get it for free because they get sponsored by the company

This is 400mm

[magic crown]

nope sorry

[naive fiber]

Alex may

Idk I think I remember seeing some

[glossy sage]

Love Ospreys but they never land anywhere near me this is at 600mm + huge crop and its flying away from me so high

They troll me, I want a good Osprey photo

[undone slate]

is that your photo?

[undone slate]

what's that

dirty sensor?

[glossy sage]

Could be dust on the lens, sensor, or in the air

[fast knoll]

might be sensor dust but need to look at another photo to be sure

[naive fiber]

No

I don't own a 400 f2.8

[undone slate]

yea

[glossy sage]

Looks like just something in the air, swapping between photos it disappears

[undone slate]

maybe an insect

[glossy sage]

Could be. Could be an insect, sand flying around, seeds, anything really

[undone slate]

Yeah

One question: do you think goldfinches will come to my teasel this summer?

[glossy sage]

If this photo was viable (it isn't) I'd just use remove tool and stamp it out anyway. Artifacts like that aren't an issue these days

[naive fiber]

Maybe

Idk

This is a pretty hard question

[undone slate]

yeah

[glossy sage]

I finally dun did it. Got a small bird launching into flight captured + a handful of extras these are just the first 3 I've looked at so far

[undone slate]

nice photo but pretty dark bird

[glossy sage]

Its a RAW file not a JPG like ya used to

Can raise/lower shadow data to show more/less. The blackbird is pretty black though 😄

[undone slate]

oh ok

[spring vault]

YAY

[undone slate]

nice photo then

@tough hull but i'm seeing that canon has more expensive lenses

[glossy sage]

Yes

All good lenses are expensive. Canon just happens to be a bit more expensive

[undone slate]

so why is people recommending me r6 ii now

[glossy sage]

Because you saw aarv's photos and said "I want the R6 ii instead of the z" one day

[undone slate]

nono

They recommended that camera to me when I wanted the Z6 III

[glossy sage]

Canon's AF is top tier. The price difference between proprietary brand lenses isn't that huge

If you wanna go the Z6 III, go the Z6 III. The cameras are similar

We can't make every choice and research for you

[undone slate]

yeah but i'm getting confused because people before were telling me- buy the z6 iii, and now the r6 ii

idk what to do

and the cheaper option

[grizzled nebula]

damn wtf, just found out my tripod + gimbal head new are worth 1.2K euros

[undone slate]

only?

WAIT

that's a lot