Bird Photography

[magic crown]

Peregrine falcon

[tender galleon]

whats ur min focus distance?

[grizzled nebula]

i have a peregrine falcon spot very close to me

need to find a way to go tho

need someone to take me to hyeres and then i need to take a boat to porquerolles

[tender galleon]

what are those circles

[fast knoll]

banding

prorb a low quality version that he sent

[undone slate]

💸

for what do u want that?

[undone slate]

how

[tough hull]

It was actually annoying that shot

[spring vault]

3.2 meter 1:6 magnification

[undone slate]

why?

[spring vault]

zooms generally have better mfd than primes

[tough hull]

I was doing portraits at lower shutter so I could shoot base and then he moved so I was like let’s crank up the shutter and I aimed at him then the guy next to him flapped with his wings so I aimed at him but too late so I waited and missed the other one again. I decided to stay at one, only got this weird shot with the framing off so I waited for 10 mins and they didn’t do it again and just flew away

Heron eye

[fast knoll]

what lens?

that bokeh is crazy even like an inch in front of the perch

[spring vault]

sigma 500 5.6 on apsc

min focus dist

[tough hull]

Only saw 16 herons today along 40km of river

Use macro adapters

[tough hull]

Crazy thing though there were like no herons at all while I was going there where I went yesterday but then almost at the end I saw 5 herons at once on a meadow

[grizzled nebula]

gonna get an extension tube for my 600 F/4

[tough hull]

Huh

You mean for your R6 MKII?

[undone slate]

is this edited?

@grizzled nebula

Is there a big difference in quality between the original file and the one on Discord?

[grizzled nebula]

not much

this is cropped in

and yes edited

[glossy sage]

That is a drone for sure

[undone slate]

can u show the original

[grizzled nebula]

not rn

[undone slate]

And why does one look so much darker than the other?

[undone slate]

ok

[grizzled nebula]

different day and different conditions

[glossy sage]

Different day with the same piece of food standing in the same spot?

[grizzled nebula]

idk if it's the ES or PreCap on the R6II but ffs

this is really bad

[glossy sage]

Looks like shutter speed

Ur using pre-capture?

[grizzled nebula]

yes

[glossy sage]

Use EFCS and h+ mode IMO

[grizzled nebula]

i was at 1/3200

[grizzled nebula]

..

[glossy sage]

What

[undone slate]

that's strange

[grizzled nebula]

i use precap for a reason

[glossy sage]

What reason?

You can still use EFCS with pre-capture

[grizzled nebula]

so i can get the flight..

[grizzled nebula]

no

[glossy sage]

Yes

[grizzled nebula]

it's only ES

[glossy sage]

Mine works with efcs

[undone slate]

but it's standing in the same spot

[grizzled nebula]

well R8 is newer

[glossy sage]

Same sensor and firmware

[grizzled nebula]

well clearly i can't

cause it's greyed out

[undone slate]

what species is that? @spring vault

[grizzled nebula]

on es

[glossy sage]

on first curtain mode its grayed out?

[grizzled nebula]

it's greyed out on ES

can't change

[glossy sage]

So u r on first curtain mode?

[grizzled nebula]

BRO

[glossy sage]

Ur saying es is grayed out im confused

[grizzled nebula]

the setting is greyed out

can't change at all..

it's stuck on ES

[spring vault]

The precapture frames when in efcs are still eshutter

[glossy sage]

OoOh gotchya the whole screen on that page is grayed

[spring vault]

it's not using the shutter for the precap

[glossy sage]

Yeah but when u click the button fully down at least it uses shutter then

I dont like the pre-capture it takes so long for canon to write and clear that buffer

[glossy sage]

I personally use EFCS and H+ mode and just hold shutter down

[undone slate]

.

[grizzled nebula]

House martin

[glossy sage]

It doesn't bother you once the pre-capture is filled it takes like 2-3 minutes to write the raw burst file? Then having to use canon eos utility to deconstruct the file

[tough hull]

They are a pain to get

[grizzled nebula]

Takes me 4 or 5s to clear

I just extract them directly in camera

[tough hull]

I finally lock on to a swallow or Martin whatever and have perfect tracking and suddenly they turn to th sides

[glossy sage]

I wish LR could process them like this

[glossy sage]

After you press shutter fully down it only takes u a few seconds? For me pressing shutter maxes the bar like instantly and takes minutes to clear

[grizzled nebula]

i can hold it for 4 or 5 seconds i think

lemme try

ok i can press the button for 10s before it fills up and it takes about 15s to clear when full

[glossy sage]

[fast knoll]

minutes is crazy

what card r u using?

[grizzled nebula]

photo ruined 💔

[fast knoll]

yea v30 is slow for modern cameras

[grizzled nebula]

i use a V60

[fast knoll]

but still clearing buffer in minutes is pretty insane

i had a v60 and it worked pretty well

then i upgraded to a 512gb cfe

got it for $180 and now it's $340

[glossy sage]

I thought v30 for still photography was the standard

Thats what I read anyways

My friend was asking about precapture not to long ago and I actually made these videos

https://youtube.com/shorts/1KeWEmu8tkw?si=Apt-36jM5m3_aLlV

https://youtube.com/shorts/XEgw4bH_RBg?si=-5Ejun3xnN-q-nHj

[undone slate]

why?

My question is how did you photograph a great tit in the same place and eating on different days?

[grizzled nebula]

those are blue tits and they nest in the wall below

[undone slate]

Why did that happen?

[naive fiber]

Electronic shutter

[spring vault]

I was usin a1ii with half second precapture on a v60 card and almost never hit buffer and when I did fill the buffer it didn't stop shooting just slowed down the burst rate

[undone slate]

but that's better

it doesn't make noise

explain me

pls

[naive fiber]

What

[spring vault]

unfortunately I didn't get any epic precapture moments this time. The bushes were too dense so when birds took off they'd be immediately behind sticks

should've spent more time in the parking lot where it was just trees

[undone slate]

noise i mean

noise

not photo noise

i mean noise

@naive fiber

[naive fiber]

Ah

You can get banding with them

[stable mantle]

What?

[undone slate]

what's that

But why did Aarv's photo go bad because of that?

[undone slate]

What?

[glossy sage]

Govt spy birb mmmhm

[undone slate]

[glossy sage]

Birdbox vibes

[undone slate]

what's birdbox

[glossy sage]

A movie

[undone slate]

WHAT bird is that?

Where'd you get that?

@stable mantle

[stable mantle]

Blue birb

[undone slate]

species?

[grizzled nebula]

Came so close

[undone slate]

a bit dark

[grizzled nebula]

Sooc

[grizzled nebula]

Cause its not edited...

[undone slate]

idk why a processed image can't be edited well."

idk

[grizzled nebula]

¿?¿?¿?¿?

[undone slate]

¿?

[grizzled nebula]

wdym

[undone slate]

i mean that why a raw photo can be edited well

but not a jepg

[grizzled nebula]

cause a raw contains more data

[naive fiber]

https://johnplatt.com.au/electronic-shutters-banding-rolling-shutter-explained/

[grizzled nebula]

sharpness 🔥

[tough hull]

I should get CF Express man

V90 I want but it’s as expensive as CF express

[grizzled nebula]

if ur cam takes CF express there's no reason to get an sd card over it

[tough hull]

Yeah

[grizzled nebula]

not finished but check out this sharpness

[tough hull]

Holy scam

[grizzled nebula]

nah 100% rel

[tough hull]

Aarvs show me your most detailed heron portrait

[grizzled nebula]

wow

accidentally shot a F/7.1

[tough hull]

I think I was closer lol

[tough hull]

Nvm

[tender galleon]

no birding for tmrw

got sick af

as fuck, not autofocus

[undone slate]

why

[undone slate]

even cropped it has a lott of quality

@grizzled nebula Have you ever come in first place in a competition?

Are there any National Geographic competitions I can participate in? (when I get another camera)

what's that

[naive fiber]

your question makes no sense

[undone slate]

i mean the bird

sorry

[grizzled nebula]

yh cause it's an extremely good top of the range lens and a very very good camera

[undone slate]

yep

[grizzled nebula]

no

[undone slate]

why?

[grizzled nebula]

yes but gl getting into the top 1000

[grizzled nebula]

cause i haven't and i've never entered a real competition..

[undone slate]

💀

[undone slate]

you should

i think u could win

i mean

yeah maybe

[grizzled nebula]

The national geographic competitions are next level

[undone slate]

Wdym by next level?

[grizzled nebula]

there's thousands of extremely good pro wildlife photographers

so it's very difficult

[undone slate]

do they give you money if you get at the first/second/third place?

[tender galleon]

i have a fever

[undone slate]

why

[tender galleon]

wdym why

[grizzled nebula]

yes

[grizzled nebula]

he asks questions for literally everything

[undone slate]

why do you have fever

[grizzled nebula]

you could say i'm going to school and he'd say why

[undone slate]

I know

[undone slate]

🤣

[tender galleon]

how could i know

[undone slate]

but wdym by fever

fever by AF

🤯

i'm getting SO confused

[grizzled nebula]

https://tenor.com/view/kill-myself-seatbelt-im-just-gonna-gif-17369929

can't wait to get this gimbal

[tough hull]

@undone slate quality don’t matter for wildlife contests that much

[undone slate]

I know

the moment is more important

[grizzled nebula]

[tough hull]

The wildlife photographer of the year award was given to someone with a photo shot at like idk iso 20000

[grizzled nebula]

20000 iso doesn't mean bad quality

[undone slate]

but maybe that camera manages well that ISO

[grizzled nebula]

btw what was the pic

[tough hull]

It was not a shot I would print

[undone slate]

And who really decides who the winner is?

[tough hull]

Judges

[undone slate]

And they can't give you money if you finish in the top 40?

[undone slate]

Are you telling me that maybe they look at 100,000 photos?

I don't know if there's a limit on the number of photos in a contest.

[tough hull]

Wait holy shit I mixed something up my bad @grizzled nebula

[grizzled nebula]

?

[tough hull]

https://www.nhm.ac.uk/wpy/gallery/2025-ghost-town-visitor

Idk why but in my memory it was with a ton of noise

Or the print there was bad idk

[undone slate]

it doesn't have much noise

[grizzled nebula]

the quality is quite good

[tough hull]

Yeah idk I saw a printed version and in my memory it was noisy

[grizzled nebula]

can see the denoising here but other than that it's good

[undone slate]

idk if you have probably the best camera in the world for wildlife

and lens

[tough hull]

So either I mixed something up or it was actually a bad print

[grizzled nebula]

judges judge the what the photo is about and the quality, you need a mix of the 2

[undone slate]

AI denoise?

[tough hull]

Some youth price though I didn’t like it since it had that cheap flash look

[grizzled nebula]

you could send an insane pic of 2 eagles fighting but if the quality is shit it'll get rejected instantly

[tough hull]

And basically nothing in it

[undone slate]

Can you recommend any free AI denoise?

[grizzled nebula]

can u show me that one

oh wait

nvm

[tough hull]

Ah nvm

[naive fiber]

pureraw + ai backend

[grizzled nebula]

this one?

[tough hull]

Again wrong memory

[naive fiber]

no

[naive fiber]

oh wildlife photographer of the year

[grizzled nebula]

it is quite over edited tbh

[tough hull]

Well yeah but it was a different image that had the flash problem

[naive fiber]

I was just looking at this

[undone slate]

pureraw?

[naive fiber]

yes

[tough hull]

Yes

[undone slate]

i can't find anything

[tough hull]

This one is still boring

[grizzled nebula]

there's someone in another server that has better pictures..

[naive fiber]

it looked better printed tbh

but this was under 18

I think

[grizzled nebula]

he's young so he'd be in that comp

[tough hull]

Plus the bug is half outta focus

[undone slate]

I also can't find anything related to AI backend.

@naive fiber

help

[naive fiber]

this was better tbh

[grizzled nebula]

he's 15 or 16

[naive fiber]

the bear is a bit out of focus

[undone slate]

the person or the bear

[grizzled nebula]

yh this is quite sick

[grizzled nebula]

https://tenor.com/view/stfu-shut-up-stop-shut-your-mouth-shut-it-down-gif-20324546

[tough hull]

I loved the portfolio winners though

One guy with his lakes and landscapes from the drone

That was impressive

I wanna find it wait

[grizzled nebula]

this is nice

[undone slate]

nice moment

I don't know if he was in a car or just hiding.

[grizzled nebula]

oh damn wow

[undone slate]

wow

[tough hull]

This was funny though

Portable xray machine

[undone slate]

They look like they're in heaven

[undone slate]

yes

[grizzled nebula]

mf got a whole x ray machine 😭

i need to get one cause that looks cool asf

[grizzled nebula]

how are we supposed to know bro

[undone slate]

u want that to x-ray animals?

[tough hull]

These were amazing

[undone slate]

idk

[tough hull]

Yeah man

[undone slate]

that was from a helicopter or smth

[tough hull]

DRONE

[undone slate]

a drone with a good camera?

[naive fiber]

mavic 3 afaik

[tough hull]

There were pics from an airplane though

[undone slate]

@naive fiber help

[tough hull]

Yes

Hasselblad camera

[naive fiber]

I need to go back

[undone slate]

I can't find anything related to AI backend.

[grizzled nebula]

why not

[naive fiber]

ok look into it

[undone slate]

i already done that

[undone slate]

i would x-ray my dog

idk how but

[grizzled nebula]

this is really cool

[tough hull]

Oh damn

[undone slate]

bad photo

i don't like that photo

[naive fiber]

?????

[tough hull]

Not seen that one yet

[naive fiber]

this was from a while ago

[grizzled nebula]

how

[deep vigil]

Have you realized that it’s animals in the background yet

[grizzled nebula]

bruv

[undone slate]

But are those denoise programs you mentioned programs or websites?

[green canyon]

Guys morten hilmer posted again

[undone slate]

notversly

[tough hull]

One of my shots was already at an exhibition ^^

[green canyon]

which one?

and how

[tough hull]

Only on a small screen though

[tough hull]

One with northern lights

It was a small comp through

Bavarian only

[naive fiber]

I didnt understand the winner of 2026

it looked quite overedited

[naive fiber]

this person is the same age as me as well

shit has levels 😭

[grizzled nebula]

my stuff is packaged !

[naive fiber]

Actually this is sick I take it back

[undone slate]

your camera?

[naive fiber]

I just don't like the blue tint

[naive fiber]

Dude

His camera is not this long

[grizzled nebula]

lmao

[naive fiber]

Bazooka body

[grizzled nebula]

no that's the tripod and gimbal head i ordered

[tough hull]

That was actually the reason why I joined this server because I got a letter that said I got in The top 80 (total 3 age groups per category plus extra category awards that are all together and get a top 20 together) so basically I got in the top ten of my category and age group and I wanted to tell someone but the small photography server I was on was dead at the moment so I joined photography lounge lol

[undone slate]

it came to you soon

[tough hull]

Anyway I gotta go now

Cya and good night

[naive fiber]

A 10 year old took this????

I forgot about this photo

[grizzled nebula]

guy packaged it decently well

he still has to send it

[naive fiber]

Download pureraw

And you will see

Actually you can't ai denoise

Because your camera doesn't shoot raw

[undone slate]

really?

[naive fiber]

Yes

[undone slate]

hmm

[naive fiber]

She's incredibly gifted

Like this is something I would be overjoyed to get

[undone slate]

i like that photo

[grizzled nebula]

man if only i had an environment like that

instead i have private stuff all around me

[naive fiber]

All of these photos are taken 40 mins away from me

So I could try

[grizzled nebula]

and the only stuff that isn't private is scrub

[undone slate]

where

[naive fiber]

Richmond park

Maybe less than 40

https://eagleeyedgirl.co.uk/

Her portfolio

[undone slate]

Are there deer there?

[naive fiber]

An abundancy of them

[undone slate]

wow

so lucky

[naive fiber]

Nevermind it's 30 mins

I wish I had my camera in Japan

Let me pet him

[undone slate]

is that ur photo?

[naive fiber]

Yes

[undone slate]

wow

And couldn't it attack you?

What species of deer is it exactly?

[naive fiber]

No they are used to humans

[naive fiber]

Idk

[undone slate]

yep

[gilded yarrow]

sika I think

[naive fiber]

yeah just checked

it is

@undone slate what competitions did you want to enter

[grizzled nebula]

Nat geo

[undone slate]

heheh, with my main camera

my camera = 💀

other camera = 📈

[naive fiber]

thats some optimism

nat geo is like incredibly hard

[undone slate]

i know

[hidden wyvern]

mothers day geese (or well, the day prior)

[naive fiber]

aw

[charred holly]

Which is the better edit? Photolab and Lightroom colors are so different and I can't decide...

[tacit gazelle]

Prefer the first one

[grizzled nebula]

i can't decide either lol

i hate doing 2 different edits cause i just end up not knowing which one to chose

[charred holly]

Yeah

Sometimes it is fairly obvious, sometimes I just keep both

[grizzled nebula]

bottom one looks better right?

[dark ermine]

https://tenor.com/view/it-looks-the-same-tori-spring-heartstopper-it-hasn't-change-it-looks-just-like-before-gif-1661115263273858412

[grizzled nebula]

the bottom one is a brighter and has a bit more contrast

[magic crown]

it's the same

[grizzled nebula]

u guys are BLIND

[magic crown]

it's the same bro i can't tell the difference lmao

oversaturated feathers btw

[magic crown]

better now

[dusty fog]

bro is this a 800 f/1.8? where's the background???

[spring vault]

thats what min focus distance and a far away background looks like on any tele. Here's a pic with a 70-350mm f4.5-6.3 kit lens

[dusty fog]

best kit lens

[grizzled nebula]

f/7.1 bokeh

[dark minnow]

5.6 bokeh

[grizzled nebula]

5.6 bokeh aswell

[spring vault]

yellow warbs r my favorite

[narrow crag]

honestly learning to use my 100-500 made me realize that its so much more about technique than just having a fast lens

though that helps

this might be one of the best tree swallow pictures ive ever seen

[spring vault]

I almost deleted it cos it's rly boring but I figured I could post it

[narrow crag]

i think its great bro

[spring vault]

been trying to edit one pic a day

so I got a couple more similar swallow pics

[narrow crag]

I should do that too. Ive recently not been spending much time at all on editing and just basically mass-exporting whatever pics i took for ebird

so nothing has really been good

[spring vault]

I generally like the pics with more unique poses and backgrounds over the profile view of bird on solid color background pics

[narrow crag]

yeah its just hard to get one like that for a tree swallow

[spring vault]

the ones here r super chill

they just hang out on the boardwalk railings

focus stacked bird

[narrow crag]

yeah i was gonna say that DOF is crazy

looks like the area between them is out of focus

did you just composite the two images together?

[spring vault]

swallow spam

yea I focused on one and took a pic then focused on the other and took a pic while trying to not move the cam and then just combine in ps

[narrow crag]

cool

[fast knoll]

damn bro

swallow heaven

i still have so many unedited peregrine photos lol

r5ii af is insane

r5 would miss all of the takeoffs and landings

[dark minnow]

you upgraded?

[fast knoll]

yep

i was getting frustrated with the r5 lol

and there were too many good deals tempting me

[steady pasture]

Salt, do you have an addiction to buying camera gear?😭

[fast knoll]

i also am making the difference in cost between my r5 and r5ii by doing grad photos so it's a free upgrade in my mind

[fast knoll]

nah i have nothing else to upgrade to anymore

[steady pasture]

I’m kinda debating buying an older EF prime like the 400 5.6 bc they’re decently cheap for what they offer and I’ve heard good things

[fast knoll]

oh yea i heard that was like the goat lens back in the day

[steady pasture]

My dad had one😭

He did photography up until he moved here, he uses my d5100 when I shoot

[fast knoll]

yea i got into photography cause my dad had a 5dii

i still use his ef 24-70 ii for grad photos

his lens choices were elite

he also has a ef 70-20 2.8 ii

[steady pasture]

That’s sick

[tough hull]

This weekend imma edit these

[remote remnant]

had fucked settings, shot at 1/500 at 800mm 💀

dont zoom in, theres no detail

[tough hull]

?

In how many centuries will the image arrive?

[remote remnant]

250-300 years

[tough hull]

Dman

[tough hull]

Maybe just send a screenshot

Like me

[remote remnant]

boring ahh pic

bird is bird

[tough hull]

Yes

Yes

Bro try to get swallows

[remote remnant]

anti-bird countermeasures

[tough hull]

No

[remote remnant]

Yes

[tough hull]

Imma show you anti photography countermeasures wait

#1041487027255914566 message

These things are hella countermeasures

If you loose the swallow for one second where it’s not in frame your camera is starting to fall in love with this stuff

And it’s gonna focus this and nothing else

[remote remnant]

fire

[tough hull]

Yeah I should use that

That’s gonna burn up the countermeasures

[stable mantle]

I saw it! Bottom one betta

[gilded yarrow]

Lmao insane, the swallow in flight shot I posted was at 330mm

And its almost uncropped

[grizzled nebula]

Do i keep the dark style for this pic or do i make it brighter?

[stable mantle]

Do both! I do like this dark theme though. It looks to me like he's rethinking life 😄

[spring vault]

its so scrungly

https://www.kkinstagram.com/reel/DXfGDTSiAeg/?igsh=MWpmNnYyMWtvc2FqZA==

look 100-500 teardown

$$$$

[green canyon]

my local swan got babies

[stable mantle]

baby swan 😮

omg pics yet? 😄

[green canyon]

no, i knew it was breeding but had no idea when it'd be done

just saw it

shit weather though, maybe this weekend

[tough hull]

Mine also have

[stable mantle]

weather indeed sht

Why you guys have a local swan? xD

I have none what so ever here xD

[tough hull]

25km

[green canyon]

it lives at my local lake

[tough hull]

In the city where my school is

There are like 5 swan families in the city

[tough hull]

Though I could not get good photos so I got some somewhere else

[stable mantle]

Every pond / lake near my city I've seen no swans what so ever

[tough hull]

This weekend was my first time finding swans in actual nature

[stable mantle]

Nice

[tough hull]

I usually see them in cities

Nowhere else though

[stable mantle]

btw something else Eric

[tough hull]

If there’s no city or village that means no swans at my smaller waters

[stable mantle]

Have you ev en found that cuckoo though? xD

[tough hull]

Nah

I got a greater whitethroat that day though

First one

This is just a pic I have on my phone

I got a better one

[stable mantle]

nice

[tough hull]

One more species and I have 100

[gilded yarrow]

too dark imo, looks underexposed

[tough hull]

16 more species and I got 100 for this year

I got photos of 89-91 species

[tough hull]

That’s good

[magic crown]

hope this will never happen to us

[undone slate]

HOWW

[tough hull]

Good spots

If I had my camera I would have gotten some funny pics

Kestrels are ez

To get close to

Getting a good shot different story

[glossy sage]

Its the same

[grizzled nebula]

First of all no and ur late

i need to go look for terns

[magic crown]

bro really don't want to admit it crazy

[grizzled nebula]

admit what

[magic crown]

that's the same image

[grizzled nebula]

one's clearly got brighter whites

[magic crown]

there's no difference

[grizzled nebula]

and is overall a bit brighter

also had more contrast

[magic crown]

it's the same

[grizzled nebula]

blind

[magic crown]

let's play the 7 differences

[magic crown]

maybe on your screen you can tell the difference but on mine it's the same

and i'm not the only one who said it so

[grizzled nebula]

ok if u want

stop talking about it now

[spring vault]

I think aarvs needs his new monitor

[grizzled nebula]

it's been hours

[magic crown]

fr

[grizzled nebula]

who cares

[spring vault]

600f4 and editing on a broken crt smh

[magic crown]

all to camera

[magic crown]

holy screen

even a TV will be better

[grizzled nebula]

i have another mintor which i believe is oled

but iirc it's 1080P 60hz and i don't have the cable

[undone slate]

HELP

i need to denoise this

[tender galleon]

https://tenor.com/view/freedom-mountains-penguin-mountain-penguin-mountain-gif-17645682934259148439

(but why)

[undone slate]

idk

[tough hull]

I wanna see penguins

[dark ermine]

okay, after looking through my shots, i'm happy with the 180-600mm now

[grizzled nebula]

nvm the other monitor is VA aswell

[dark ermine]

I can see the bottom one is slightly darker but what I meant is it so insignificant that it might as well be the exact same

like i think you're trying to dial it in too much. i usually get like that if i've worked on an edit too long in one go

[grizzled nebula]

dick

tripod and gimbal head are on the way!

is this a joke

[naive fiber]

I have 4

[undone slate]

that's not a duck

I think

[grizzled nebula]

you're right actually

it's a coot

[green canyon]

thats not toooo bad

[grizzled nebula]

that's horrible

[green canyon]

slightly longer than usual

[grizzled nebula]

i didn't even have another delivery option

usually 1 or 2 days

this is mondial relay which are awfully slow

5-9 days could also be 15 days

of maybe they meant 59 days

[green canyon]

it could also be this friday or saturday

[grizzled nebula]

nah

not with them

i say monday minimum

if it's delivered on saturday or early i'll track the driver and tip him 500 euros

[green canyon]

god my work laptop has so many updates

just let me earn my money

[grizzled nebula]

my laptop is broken

doesn't charge when on and battery drains within 2 mins

might be closer to 1 min actually

[undone slate]

WOW

probably one of my best photos

idk

maybe

@grizzled nebula do u recommend me pirate lightroom

install a free version

[magic crown]

https://tenor.com/view/wait-that-thats-is-illegal-gif-18393263

[undone slate]

umm

idk

Someone from this server sent me a DM saying that

so idk

as long as it doesn't have a virus.

[dusty fog]

just say your eyes suck

[stable mantle]

Do whatever you must to be able to edit your photos! Not telling you what to do exactly just to do something. All up to you ‘-‘

[dusty fog]

we dont speak of such things here

if you want free try RapidRaw

[daring imp]

Its totally worth it. My tripod is 400$ full carbon fiber/gimbal is 300$. Holds my 5.3kg 600mm with ease. Handles wind well

[grizzled nebula]

what crop do i use

[grizzled nebula]

i found it with carbon tripod used for 240 euros

the head looks good, only normal weak

tripod also seems fine

more weak but eh

can't complain

now just waiting to recieve all of this

[undone slate]

i have rapidraw

[glossy sage]

I'm not European I had FOMO

[grizzled nebula]

sad for u

[undone slate]

does he have a pc?

[grizzled nebula]

i want him

[undone slate]

is that ur photo?

impossible

[grizzled nebula]

https://tenor.com/view/bruh-meme-gif-26978290

"i want him"

[undone slate]

yeah

[grizzled nebula]

'is it ur photo?"

[undone slate]

it make sense

[grizzled nebula]

ofc it's not mine if i want him

[undone slate]

hm

today is the perfect day for birding

[dark ermine]

why

[undone slate]

😭 😭 😭

⛈️

👎

Do you think birds go to feeders more in spring or summer?

[dark ermine]

rain is awesome for birding

[undone slate]

not with my camera

🙁

[naive fiber]

colder is more

warmer is less

I got the materials for my new feeder

[grizzled nebula]

big crops on the 100-500

[naive fiber]

spotted some wrens and long tailed tits flying around so I hope to attract them

[dark ermine]

this was taken with a nikon d90 and a tamron 70-300

[gilded yarrow]

Which

slightly different crop and tried getting rid of the haze a bit more

This is the raw 💀

[undone slate]

But I think if the birds know there's food there, they'll go almost every time because in summer they don't have chicks and granivorous birds eat more seeds.

[naive fiber]

ringing seems so cute but how do you get this many in a net to ring

[naive fiber]

like I said

colder is more visiting

warmer is less

[naive fiber]

1

better framing in general tbh

ignoring the editing difference

[dark ermine]

find nesting grounds, put net in tree, wait. need to be licensed for banding tho

[naive fiber]

also you should denoise that

[naive fiber]

I forget that they come in flocks of like 6

same when they come to feeders

[green canyon]

huh?

[grizzled nebula]

wankers

[gilded yarrow]

ty!

[gilded yarrow]

Already is denoised

[naive fiber]

ringing works by setting up a net and waiting for the birds to fly in

[gilded yarrow]

haze fucked with it big time

[green canyon]

and why do you do that

[naive fiber]

yeah they come in crazy big amounts

[naive fiber]

conservation

[dark ermine]

yeah same for cedar waxwings (not my pic). just learned that recently, along with the fact they can get drunk on fermented berries apparently. now i just picture them as like a drunk frat flying around

[naive fiber]

they ring them for identification

[grizzled nebula]

there's only 4h between where i live and where the package is btw

8 fucking days

[green canyon]

ohhh like those things on their feet

[naive fiber]

yeah

[undone slate]

yeah but they don't have chicks in summer

[naive fiber]

thats pretty funny lmao

[undone slate]

WOW

[naive fiber]

ok but you arent listening

ill explain this fully

[undone slate]

It really annoys me that I had to leave this morning because there was literally perfect light for sparrows.

[naive fiber]

they have less food in winter so they come to feeders more

[undone slate]

yeah

so true

[naive fiber]

in summer they have more food so they visit feeders less

I dropped from 70 to 20 visits a day

[undone slate]

But what about plants?

[undone slate]

wow

[naive fiber]

sorry?

[tender galleon]

obvious scammer

[undone slate]

i mean plants

teasels for the goldfinches

[naive fiber]

no clarify

[undone slate]

In my experience, they go more in summer than in spring.

[naive fiber]

They will eat what is closer

[tender galleon]

i'd put the feeder in a spot where the background is further away

[undone slate]

same, but the problem is

how

[tender galleon]

put it in a different spot

[undone slate]

i can't

[tender galleon]

and you can find birds in the forest too

[undone slate]

really

idk if i can do that

also the forest isn't a good spot for my camera

is pretty dark

[tender galleon]

find a spot with good light and wait for a few hours

[tender galleon]

wdym

[undone slate]

The downside to that is that it would be more difficult to take pictures of him as often.

[undone slate]

i don't have any place

[naive fiber]

set up a new feeder

[undone slate]

i have 2

[tender galleon]

him?

[undone slate]

bird

it's a male sparrow

and female

anyways

[daring imp]

RGB Bird

[undone slate]

what's rgb

ah ok

[daring imp]

its a very colorful bird here in finland, aka rgb xd

[undone slate]

i have them in spain

but they're difficult to cath

very difficult

[daring imp]

very! i saw one today and stopped traffic, had to finally get one xD it was next to the road, got slowmo video too

[undone slate]

yep

[daring imp]

@undone slate is it just me or is the eyes abit out of focus? or is it sharp for u aswell i cant really tell

sharp enough for social media right?

[undone slate]

hmmm

i think it's pretty good

[naive fiber]

it seems unsharp

[undone slate]

probably one of the best images that've seen of that bird

[undone slate]

maybe discord compression

[naive fiber]

maybe just noisy

it seems noisy

try denoise

[undone slate]

@daring imp what cam do u have

cam + lens

[daring imp]

r6 mark 2, 600mm f4 mark 1 IS L

[undone slate]

you have one of the best cameras in the world

[naive fiber]

same as aarvs?

[daring imp]

@naive fiber I tried denoise + a little sharpening on photoshop

[naive fiber]

I dont think the r6ii is one of the best in the world tbh

[naive fiber]

does ai denoise work?

seems better

[undone slate]

i think the z9

my wish is to get a z9

but it's not for now

maybe 10 years

or less

idk

[naive fiber]

z9 is defo not the best for bird photography

[undone slate]

thoughts?

[undone slate]

why

[naive fiber]

no raw precap

[undone slate]

but nat geo photographers use that

[naive fiber]

david yarrow?

yes he gets sent them for free

[undone slate]

wdym

[naive fiber]

also he doesnt do bird photography

[naive fiber]

nikon sends them to him

for free

[undone slate]

The Nikon Z9 It does have a pre-capture function (Pre-Release Capture). This feature was added via a firmware update (version 2.0 or higher).

[daring imp]

I dont like using ai if i dont have to. If its like a really insane image i want to save

[undone slate]

so lucky

[naive fiber]

BRO

[undone slate]

WHAT

[naive fiber]

I would argue that its fine because its not generative ai

and it doesnt distort the nature of the photo

but I understand

[naive fiber]

#1041487027255914566 message

cuh

do you have a memory

https://tenor.com/view/talking-to-a-wall-gif-9702424950693960694

[undone slate]

i have

but i don't understand

why google tells me that it does

[tough hull]

These are shit

[undone slate]

i'm getting so confused

pls

rate this photo

[tough hull]

Yo

I’m getting CFexpress

[undone slate]

what's tha

[tough hull]

Good memory card

[undone slate]

rate

[undone slate]

nice

price?

[tough hull]

219€ 240GB

[undone slate]

not bad

[tough hull]

Cheapest option

[undone slate]

yup

[tough hull]

Well I could get 480GB for 370€

[gilded yarrow]

Not worth it unless you do 4k filming or something

[charred holly]

I am still using a Micro SD in an adapter 🙃

[tough hull]

It was very annoying shooting the courtship of the grebes because my buffer got absolutely filled due to me only having 150MB/s write

[charred holly]

tbh, I only do photo and the only case where it limited me was in very fast bursts when the buffer is full

[tough hull]

Yeah

It’s annoying

[undone slate]

🐦

[tough hull]

Top bright in the top left

[undone slate]

yeah

[gilded yarrow]

my cards have 210mb/s and I never think I need more buffer

[tough hull]

Yeah 60MB more than me

[undone slate]

that's the 🌞

[charred holly]

But at the very least, Sony camera don't lock up when the buffer is filled so it isn't so bad

[undone slate]

how do i solve htat

that

[tough hull]

They just go down to 2fps or so

[naive fiber]

yeah my nikon just stops

20 or so raw photos at 5.5fps fills my card

and buffer

[tough hull]

BRUH

256MB sd or something what tf you got

[charred holly]

That is very low indeed

[tough hull]

Fills the card is crazy

[naive fiber]

not fills the card ugh

I cant word

[tough hull]

Fair

Just buffer?

Or what you meant

[charred holly]

That is about 3.5s of buffer, not so bad

[grizzled nebula]

No

[charred holly]

6 fps sounds quite slow for fast action though, don't you struggle for that kind of scenario?

[grizzled nebula]

It’s jpeg precap..

[tough hull]

Oh nvm

My card only has 140MB/s write

That is roundabout 3.5photos per second

And that’s why I wanted CFexpress

800MB/s at least depending on what I get and that’s good for everything I currently have and maybe get in the future

I wanna upgrade to a precap camera as soon as possible

Either a7 VI or a7 V when it’s cheaper

[naive fiber]

what 600mm do you have

[tough hull]

The EF 600 f4

[dark ermine]

i dont see myself ever using precap when auto cap exists with ai tracking

[naive fiber]

oh ok

[grizzled nebula]

i have the mark II

he has the mark 1

[dark ermine]

but maybe that's because i haven't tried it, since nikon is jpg precap only and I dont shoot jpg

[grizzled nebula]

well original

[charred holly]

Be prepared, 30 fps precap is hell for culling in post

[naive fiber]

he said r6 mark 2

unless he made a typo

[grizzled nebula]

R6 mark 2 is a camera..

[naive fiber]

OH WAIT

sorry

im such an idiot lmao

[tough hull]

If you want the whole process of taking off, good luck with that I bet it won’t work

[dark ermine]

yeah that's the other thing, i already want to pass away trying to cull burst 10

[naive fiber]

I thought you were talking about the body

[grizzled nebula]

fr

[tough hull]

Idc man

[grizzled nebula]

[tough hull]

It’s 1s

[charred holly]

It can be more with lossy raw

[tough hull]

So I will have roundabout 90photos depending on what I shoot

[grizzled nebula]

R6II precap might be op actually

[tender galleon]

is this worth it?
https://www.mpb.com/en-eu/product/tamron-100-400mm-f-4-5-6-3-di-vc-usd-canon-ef-fit/sku-3847977

[dark ermine]

#1041487027255914566 message

[grizzled nebula]

cause u get 1 big file, u can chose the ones u want in camera and then just delete the file so u keep only the ones u want

instead of having to delete each individual pic

[tough hull]

That is not one bird sitting there and waiting

That’s multiple that were moving all the time

[grizzled nebula]

actually might be the same on the newer precap stuff

[dark ermine]

it can do one just fine

[tough hull]

For example get a kingfisher that launches in the air and get the moment it’s getting down to jump upwards like when it’s collecting momentum

[dark ermine]

just point it at an expected branch and enable auto, walk away

[naive fiber]

same price as the 150-600 but I assume this is sharper?

[tough hull]

At that point is it even photography anymore? You just build up your camera, wait and let the camera do its thing and then edit like you are not taking the photo anymore

[tender galleon]

yes ive heard 150-600 is soft

[tough hull]

The camera is taking the photo

[naive fiber]

I dont think its soft

g2 or g1?

[charred holly]

Nikon cameras have an autocapture mode iirc

[tender galleon]

the contemp

[naive fiber]

I was reffering to the tammy

[tender galleon]

ohh

idk abt that

[naive fiber]

contemp is cheaper afaik

[dark ermine]

it becomes a philsophical topic at that point lol. for example I as the birder took time to build the environment out, prune trees, provide food, versus going into the forest to find birds

am i even a birder anymore?

[naive fiber]

apparently its a little soft at 600 so people try use it at 500mm

sigma

[tender galleon]

i would always just zoom all the way without realizing lmao

[naive fiber]

you can lock focal lengths though

[naive fiber]

if that counts

[tender galleon]

the 100-400 is like 180-640 on my cam

[naive fiber]

also at 600 shoot at f8 which makes sense

[naive fiber]

oh yeahhh

apsc

[tender galleon]

yes and canon is 1.6x

[tough hull]

I mean like wildlife photography, it has been a game of going out, waiting and experiencing the whole thing, getting close to the animals etc., but now just putting your camera somewhere and being lazy, waiting? No thanks because this is destroying what wildlife photography is for me. Also birders, the actual people don’t feed the birds always, that’s just them photographers. What you are trying to compare can’t be compared.

[tender galleon]

the main thing i was asking was that is the one i sent in good enough condition lol

[grizzled nebula]

not sure about using the 150-600 on aps-c

[grizzled nebula]

i'd suggest the 100-400 of this tbh

ik it's more expensive but worth it

[tough hull]

And like imagine that “steals” us sharing our hobby on insta, because every fatass rich kid will just buy a cam put it outside and let it take pictures then they let Ai edit and suddenly they get millions of views for a shot they didn’t really take.

[grizzled nebula]

The 100-400 is II can also take a 1.4x tc very well

the tamron can't

[naive fiber]

some of the best photos I have seen are on that

[tender galleon]

800€ more expensive usually

[naive fiber]

wha thats a lot

[tender galleon]

the lowest i can find is 1.2k so 500€ more expensive

[grizzled nebula]

It's usually around 1k euros

[tender galleon]

not here

[grizzled nebula]

well it's worth the extra 500 euros if u can afford it lol

sharper, faster and better AF

[tender galleon]

idk if i need that good gear yet imo

[grizzled nebula]

imo better to get a good one now than having to sell the other one and buying a better one later anyway

[dark ermine]

there's no right or wrong way to do things outside of personal opinion, as long as your methods serve you, that's all that matters 🙂

[tough hull]

Yeah well it will just destroy the photography contests in the future I’m guessing

Because then it will be like fully pay to be good

[naive fiber]

The feeder is being made now ❤️

[tough hull]

What stands is that I won’t use auto cap

[tough hull]

Nice

[grizzled nebula]

peasents are cool

[undone slate]

is that ur photo?

[undone slate]

nice

[grizzled nebula]

yes

[undone slate]

but are u gonna substitute that feeder? @naive fiber

[undone slate]

how

[grizzled nebula]

background sucks unfortunately

[undone slate]

no

it's good

[grizzled nebula]

wdym how..

[undone slate]

that are difficult to photograph

[grizzled nebula]

no

[undone slate]

why no

[grizzled nebula]

cause they're not difficult to photograph..

[undone slate]

idk

some people says

it's difficult

[naive fiber]

Nope

I'm setting it up in a different location

[undone slate]

in a window?

[grizzled nebula]

no they're really easy to photograph

found this one on a trail

[undone slate]

so lucky

[naive fiber]

Yep

[undone slate]

I don't know when I'll get lucky.

[undone slate]

how many windows do u have

[naive fiber]

Do you want me to count for you

14

[undone slate]

14?