Bird Photography

[glossy sage]

And its awesome its caught in its feathers

[tough hull]

Seed is a plant

[glossy sage]

Not yet it aint

[tough hull]

How come it green then?

[glossy sage]

why r ur eyes green

Anyways this is what I was originally typing before I said nvm I don't care enough:

#🦀・creatures message
I tried bright and up-beat instead of cinematic and moody. Not sure how to feel about it, feels like my inner nature of wanting to make everything dark and depresso is screaming inside.

[tough hull]

It’s a good image actually

I was just goofing around

lol

[glossy sage]

I'm standing up for the seed's rights

Don't make em grow up too fast

[tough hull]

Lmao

[stable mantle]

Best channel on the server ❤️

[glossy sage]

Here, a moody one because I know we r all depresso

[tough hull]

I like the other one more actually

[glossy sage]

The duck is too hapy looking for moody

[tough hull]

This looks like you used a flash

I don’t like that flash look

[glossy sage]

good idea

ima start flash photography on ducks

:)

[tough hull]

Ok

Just as a warning: I prolly won’t like it

[river sandal]

Birb

[naive fiber]

Crow

[tough hull]

This cropped?

Because if no I recommend doing a different crop

[naive fiber]

That's pretty damn close

[river sandal]

Yeah. It’s cropped. I don’t remember how much, but probably a decent bit

[woeful python]

I wanna do a dad joke:
I it crowped

[tough hull]

Usually you do crops for birds that there’s like 2/3 free infront of the bird so it has room to move there

[glossy sage]

I've cleaned up the light a bit in the OG. First is what I posted, second is the cleanup

[tough hull]

At least that’s what j do

[tough hull]

Both are nice

[glossy sage]

First one I feel like I need those bubbly fairy tale esque sparkle bokeh

Which I just don't have

[tough hull]

No

You need star bokeh

[glossy sage]

star bokeh you say

[tough hull]

This is the best analog lens you can buy trust me

INDUSTAR 50mm f2.8 WHICH MY FUCKING AUTOCORRECT ALWAYS PUTS IN CAPS sorry for the crashout

I think if you put a 2x tc on that you could do some bird photography

Of course 100mm won’t be much but for ducks that’s alright

[tough hull]

Ducks that are used to humans

[glossy sage]

-# I hate ducks but yall post em so dang often I snapped photos of that one

[tough hull]

Ducks are boring I agree

[stable mantle]

I want to see owls! Who has awesome owls?

[tough hull]

Mallard or tufted can be nice if done correctly

[glossy sage]

Only duck I've recently found pretty cool

[stable mantle]

Ducks are practise birbs ‘-‘

[river sandal]

I’ll send uncropped later if I remember. I just liked how the beach went to the corner. It’s all more clutter branches to the right anyway

[tough hull]

Nah I think you can still make something nice with that

[charred holly]

I agree, handhold this one at 500mm and 1/80s

[river sandal]

This guy has more room to move

Same day, different crow

[glossy sage]

The only owl I've ever seen in my life and there couldn't have been worse photo conditions

[tough hull]

I would say maybe a bit less contrast

[stable mantle]

Yet it is an owl ❤️ lovely creatures

[tough hull]

There was a stick infront of your lens?

Still nice image

[glossy sage]

A fence

[tough hull]

Ok

[glossy sage]

Did my best to focus past it but it was quite thick

[tough hull]

Cuz of bokeh

[glossy sage]

Thats a crazy eye you spotted it from bokeh, I thought the faint white lines over the owl's feathers was obvious

also stormy out so this was 1/250 just for enough light for 12.8k ISO to not look black so its all blurry

this bird is my pride and joy <delete photo bc its a tiger not an actual birb>

[river sandal]

What about this guy

[river sandal]

That’s a big bird

[glossy sage]

I'd say its about average

Maybe even a little small

[stable mantle]

Tiney winey birb

[glossy sage]

Hey hey some would not consider is tiny alright

Its more about how it makes you feel anyway than just the look

[glossy sage]

I like the composition but it does not seem like focus is on the swan

[tough hull]

Well idk it was first thing I noticed lol

[tough hull]

Very saturated

Add some grain and then it looks like film

[glossy sage]

migrate blue to teal ^

[charred holly]

Ken Rockwell type swan

(it is quite saturated indeed)

[glossy sage]

Samsung phone moment

[tough hull]

?

[river sandal]

Like the camera didn’t focus on it? Or the swan doesn’t read as the subject?

[river sandal]

I get that. I was trying to go for like an oil paint vibe when I was editing

Still pretty new to all this

[tough hull]

Yeah and it’s good just needs some grain so it looks actually like that. If you do that this picture is gonna be really good

[river sandal]

Sick. Thanks

[glossy sage]

Camera didn't focus on it? Or its super cropped in or something. Very blurry

[tough hull]

I think it’s just exported in lower quality

[river sandal]

I did send what I have saved on my phone

Might have quality dropped it

Pc version might be cleaner

It is cropped though

I already feel like I need a longer lens

[charred holly]

This feeling will never fade

[tough hull]

I can’t wait to get a 1200mm lens

“Once I get a good paying job”…

[charred holly]

Pardon me father, I considered a P1100 for starting wildlife photography

[tough hull]

Lmao

[charred holly]

3000mm of trash range

[tough hull]

You’re not the only one

I could try bringing my 1200mm camcorder

Actually no

Now that I have 600mm my Sony is better

[charred holly]

To be fair, bridge cameras aren't that bad

But starting with that much range would have poisoned my mind forever

[tough hull]

Frfr

Hear me out

1200mm lens with 1.4x and 2x teleconverter

And boom P1100 but better

Uh wait

F22

Lmao

[grizzled nebula]

fr

[grizzled nebula]

this is really nice (needs a better edit)

[charred holly]

Pretty good for moon shots, not much else

[spring vault]

p1000 is only 3000mm ffeq because the sensor is small. The actual lens is only 550mm or so. You could get a 600mm lens and crop

[grizzled nebula]

I WANNA SEE A WILD OWLLLL

[stable mantle]

I have seen them!

[tough hull]

Nah if you got light birds are gonna be good

Sitting birds

[charred holly]

If birds produced their own light, life would be so much easier

[grizzled nebula]

i technically have one

just need the 2x tc now

or i can get over 1200mm by using crop mode

[tough hull]

Nah gn I headache I can barely see I have to rest

Btw

Bye

[grizzled nebula]

gn bruv

[spring vault]

Google says some birds are bioluminescent

[charred holly]

good night

[stable mantle]

I only got 500 mm 🙁

[charred holly]

huh?

[grizzled nebula]

sadge

[stable mantle]

Nuke them

Radiation will lit them up!

[spring vault]

https://www.nhm.ac.uk/discover/news/2025/february/birds-of-paradise-glow-with-their-skin-feathers.html

[stable mantle]

Few more months and i’m going to buy new lens. Still looking

[glossy sage]

What editing could save it?

[charred holly]

Well I learned something today

[grizzled nebula]

which one u got rn

[grizzled nebula]

needs better lighting

send raw

pls

[stable mantle]

150-500 tamron

[grizzled nebula]

i wanna try editing it

[grizzled nebula]

it's an alright lens tbf

[glossy sage]

good luck

[grizzled nebula]

i'd probably get a 200-600 if u wanna upgrade

unless u got more to spend

[stable mantle]

Well some said get the sony prime 600 4.0. Then i looked and said ehh 14k? 😂

Problably going for 200-600 sony lens.

[grizzled nebula]

that's insane for 12.8K

it's so clean*

R6II/R8 sensor goated

[glossy sage]

Yeah 12.8k is easy cleanups

on the sensor

[gilded yarrow]

smh, no light

[charred holly]

Same reaction, details are so good I wouldn't even bother denoising

[glossy sage]

I would not forgo denoising at 12.8k on most shots

modern denoising is so good

[naive fiber]

What a bokeh

[naive fiber]

Oh nice!

Is it a bit green or is it just the bird

I would love you to drop the raw

[grizzled nebula]

so hmm, i started an edit and didn't like so i went fun mode 😭

feck wait i forgot to change something

noooo

[gilded yarrow]

Might be a bit green, also from the leaves reflecting on the bright bird

[naive fiber]

I see

Nice shot

[gilded yarrow]

Thanks

[glossy sage]

I like it but since I know what it looked like IRL I wouldn't personally think to edit it like this

[grizzled nebula]

when the original lighting is quite crappy i like to completely edit it and make something nice instead of just keeping it crappy lol

but sometimes i may go a bit too far

slightly less over saturated

maybe idk

[glossy sage]

I just threw it in the scrap bin because of the fences in it anyways. Kinda random I found the cr3 still

[grizzled nebula]

i mean u can barely see the fence

[glossy sage]

always most critical of your own stuff I suppose

[glossy sage]

yOU'VE GIVEN ME AN IDAE

sorry caps its my PTT key

[grizzled nebula]

IDAE

completely removed the fence

[glossy sage]

idea*

How did you remove fence?

[grizzled nebula]

masked the background and lowered texture and sharpness completely

[glossy sage]

ah

[grizzled nebula]

makes the bokeh nicer too

[glossy sage]

the mask hates this feathers right here

[grizzled nebula]

it's like this in the original

[glossy sage]

probably fence messing with it

[grizzled nebula]

i think that's just how it's feathers are tbh

[glossy sage]

What is your tech for the color shift of the leaves to that autumn yellow? WB, HSL sliders or something else?

[grizzled nebula]

idk, i used a preset and then made changed to that preset and made it my own preset

[glossy sage]

oh

[grizzled nebula]

but the leaves colors were basically like that so that's why i used it

it looks really nice for some pictures

[stable mantle]

ima give it a shot '-'

[glossy sage]

I've never used a preset

[grizzled nebula]

this is when i first used/edited the preset

[glossy sage]

is that 16:9?

[grizzled nebula]

it's good to give u a starting base which u can then adjust

[grizzled nebula]

can't remember

[glossy sage]

Just makes me feel like I'm not learning

[grizzled nebula]

i usually don't really use presets i don't make tho

this was the rare occasion on which i did

[charred holly]

On my phone right now, this us what I came up with by tinkering a bit

[grizzled nebula]

i use it on other stuff too cause i really like it

(no i don't edit all my landscape like this)

[grizzled nebula]

looks very hazy and low contrast

also very low saturation

[charred holly]

Scene has already tons of contrast, didn't want to add much

[glossy sage]

I'll play with my owl photo later see if my idea works at all

[grizzled nebula]

my screen is not particularily good either so i can't judge edits perfectly

[glossy sage]

I like the gold shift. I wouldn't have thought of that since there was no original yellows

[charred holly]

To be fair, I am editing that on a 3" surface at minimum brightness lol

[grizzled nebula]

my screen's brightness is fake

if i make it bright the black become grey, if i make it dark everything just become too dark

the white become overexposed

even the windows menus lmao

[charred holly]

Oh yeah, I just bumped brightness to maximum, edit indeed lack contrast

[grizzled nebula]

i need 32gb more

why did i not just buy 64gb when ram was still affordable

[remote remnant]

me chilling with 16gb

[charred holly]

64gb ? Do you edit raw video?

[glossy sage]

I have a fancy color accurate monitor with TRUEBLACK 5000 rating

[remote remnant]

i have a macbook 🔥

already color accurate frfr

[grizzled nebula]

no but lightroom + chrome uses about 24gb

Then you have all the other windows processes etc

lightroom can also use the entire 32gb when doing photo stitching

[charred holly]

I also have 32Gb and never have been bothered by it

[remote remnant]

ram doesnt matter too much in my experience

just have enough and its fine

[grizzled nebula]

my gpu is also dying

[remote remnant]

like, i'm running multiple apps just fine on 16gb, faster than my other computer that has 72gb of ram

at this point it's a matter of cpu/gpu, not ram

[charred holly]

And also Lightroom being slow overall

Although Adobe is working on it

[remote remnant]

lightroom is fast for me

im on apple m5

[charred holly]

Latest update improved things a bit for sliders

Yeah, you are set for the years to come

[grizzled nebula]

my GPU and especially CPU are more than powerful enough

[charred holly]

I had to chance of being a gamer before having an interest in photography

[grizzled nebula]

RTX 3080TI with Ryzen 7 9800X3D

[remote remnant]

idk pc stuff lmao

oh yea, apple uses unified memory so it's 16gb shared for both ram and gpu's vram

pretty cool

[charred holly]

RTX3080 and Ryzen 7 3700X3D here

10G VRAM is kinda tough nowadays

[remote remnant]

i dont even know how much vram i have 🔥

[grizzled nebula]

Almost bought a 5090 before buying the R6II

[charred holly]

You have a modern Mac

So basically as much as you want

[grizzled nebula]

i have 0 regrets getting my camera gear over a gpu

[remote remnant]

bro i closed my browser to just "restart" it and it played a vine boom 😭

wtf

[charred holly]

Because your RAM is also your VRAM

[grizzled nebula]

bet ur mcdonalds can't run doom

[remote remnant]

think i had some youtube video running

[remote remnant]

i downloaded a game on my camera

smh

[grizzled nebula]

was it doom tho?

[remote remnant]

single player pong

🔥

[grizzled nebula]

cold

[stable mantle]

almost done 😄

[naive fiber]

Ill test this in a couple days

Try a new editing style

[naive fiber]

I think a bit less sat and a bit more orange?

Sunset style

That my cook the photo I fear

Deep fry style

[stable mantle]

okay done

my take 😄

[grizzled nebula]

looks quite nice but there's lots of green on the head

[stable mantle]

;D

Now try this one!

[grizzled nebula]

too tired to do a proper edit ngl

i really don't like this edit

ykw i'll try it tomorrow

[stable mantle]

hehe

[grizzled nebula]

try this (not an owl)

[stable mantle]

ooh i double clicked now lightroom opens x2 AAH PC crashing...

oooh thato ne

Bro your lens is 😍

[naive fiber]

Ikr

Hot

[charred holly]

Photo is already so good I barely edited it

[stable mantle]

ooh I like this one

[charred holly]

Not much going except some exposure/wb corrections, very light linear mask and a bit of vignetting

[dark ermine]

oh i opened LR once and now I get to wait for 5 minutes

[stable mantle]

[charred holly]

Ministry of silly aspect ratios gave me a call

(I need sleep, it is 00:15 here)

[stable mantle]

exporting exporting.. xD

Something like this @grizzled nebula

If it was my own shot I would problably go over it for a few days to make it bettar

[stable mantle]

sometimes simple is amazing ❤️

I like to see you using somewhat the same crop I did 😄

[charred holly]

Yup, once you get rid of the folliage and the log it will pretty much leave you with that

[grizzled nebula]

not the exact same shot as the one i sent but this was my edit

i should've probably showed the whole branch

[stable mantle]

the vertical going up yea

[grizzled nebula]

that's maybe a bit too crop in imo

when i say too cropped in i mean i don't have enough mp for these kinds of crops

imma try getting a little closer tomorrow

[stable mantle]

would be nice to have more MP though

[grizzled nebula]

yh, i wanna get the R5II

[dark ermine]

I feel like getting more height on it would be a bigger pay off than getting closer

like closer to eye level

[grizzled nebula]

i mean with woodpeckers it's basically impossible

they never go low

except if it's in a park

and i don't have one near me

[stable mantle]

You got high ground?

[grizzled nebula]

no

[stable mantle]

rip

[grizzled nebula]

every place that has a high ground has no woodpeckers

[stable mantle]

made this one simply because i was on the highground and the tree began lower 😄

[grizzled nebula]

where i live

[grizzled nebula]

looks nice

i have a black woodpecker not far away from where i live

still haven't been able to see it

[stable mantle]

ooh really?

[grizzled nebula]

only heard it

[stable mantle]

these are rare

well at least where i live

[grizzled nebula]

yh they're not super common and are incredibly difficult to photograph

[stable mantle]

Tell me about it

[dark ermine]

I go out hunting for the pileated woodpecker near my house often, always out of sight. meanwhile my family member sends me this, "this thing is in my yard, what is it. im mowing the lawn and it's not even worried about me"

[grizzled nebula]

imma try to go look for that black woodpecker again

i have golden eagles not super far away from me too

a possibly breeding pair was seen and reported on ebird

[stable mantle]

Nice!

[stable mantle]

well one more birb before sleep

Birb

night guys ❤️

[naive fiber]

Night

[stable mantle]

meanwhile an owl os oohoooing 🤣

[glossy sage]

Driving me nuts yall aren't using a standard aspect ratio

[stable mantle]

Haha

[glossy sage]

@grizzled nebula This is my shot at editing my pic

@stable mantle too

[grizzled nebula]

gotta increase clarity on the eye

weird texture here aswell

[glossy sage]

Same weird texture I was trying to say in the version you posted

I think its part of the fence I'm focused past

[grizzled nebula]

this is not the same area you told me earlier

[glossy sage]

I was talking about this area earlier

or at least was trying to

[grizzled nebula]

it also doesn't have that weird look here

[glossy sage]

oh I see further up

[grizzled nebula]

like the colors on the one u posted are weird

[glossy sage]

No idea, I didn't use remove tool or anything AI like that. I guess its foilage since I didn't modify the leaves besides saturation

[grizzled nebula]

i'd also raise texture on the owl

[glossy sage]

Its maxed

[grizzled nebula]

cause it looks kinda soft rn

[grizzled nebula]

texture???

[glossy sage]

Yes

[grizzled nebula]

dafuk

[glossy sage]

I'm pretty happy with this version. No crazy colors or saturation wildness

I still don't like the photo because of the fence

[grizzled nebula]

what did u use to denoise

[glossy sage]

LightRoom

[grizzled nebula]

hmm

12.8k is probs too much for lightroom tbh

[glossy sage]

Shouldn't be, its not very noisy at all anymore

[grizzled nebula]

denoised with dxo if u wanna transfer the edits over to it

[glossy sage]

I think it did pretty well

[grizzled nebula]

it looks kinda soft

[grizzled nebula]

yh the edit is solid

nothing u can do about lightroom denoise tbh

but as i said try to put more clarity in the eye so it gets rid of that haze

[glossy sage]

I can lower its aggression but I left it at its defaults I don't really mess with it

[spring vault]

culling bif so boring I should stream

[glossy sage]

Photo 1 - Lightroom Denoise
Photo 2 - Whatever u used denoise

[spring vault]

ok im streaming watch me cull

[grizzled nebula]

yh u gotta lower texture now

[glossy sage]

LR didn't copy all my settings over perfectly. Looks like it missing a mask in the bottom and the texture remove on the head

[grizzled nebula]

and if u added sharpness remove it completely

[glossy sage]

The DxO version doesn't have the weird texture above the head actually. That is interesting

[stable mantle]

Me belike laying in bed listening to the owls making noice ‘-‘

[glossy sage]

o, why?

[grizzled nebula]

cause dxo already does it

even less saturated version of my edit

oh yh don't remember to mask the background and lower texture and sharpness

[glossy sage]

I don't vibe with the orange leaves in the blue/white sky personally

[grizzled nebula]

then remove the mask with a very small brush on the edges of the bird

that removes the fence

[glossy sage]

backgrounds already lowered texture

dxo might be a lil crazy. 40 texture looks like my 100 texture on the LightRoom version

[grizzled nebula]

yh lower it down to +6

[glossy sage]

I've noticed something odd about the dxo denoiser

While I think it did better with subject detection, it added a decent bit of lens distortion

[grizzled nebula]

Might be slightly shitty masking but too tired to perfect it rn

[grizzled nebula]

oh i forgot u also need to disable distortion corrections in lightroom cause dxo does it

[glossy sage]

oh

[grizzled nebula]

so lightroom just adds another correction over what's already been corrected lol

[glossy sage]

How about CA and Vignetting correction

DXO did that?

[grizzled nebula]

u can keep that

[glossy sage]

ok

[grizzled nebula]

but dxo already did it

i'd keep CA correction tho cause it doesn't do anything bad

can actually help sometimes when u combine both

with that distortion fixed

nah i'm too tired to edit now ngl

[glossy sage]

Beak isn't yellow btw

[grizzled nebula]

cba making it yellow

[glossy sage]

? u did make it yellow like eagle

eagle owl hybrid

same kinda owl

[glossy sage]

Is this DXO a LightRoom replacement or you use them together?

[grizzled nebula]

depends

when the iso is under 1K i usually just use lightroom

but for higher iso i use dxo

[glossy sage]

Whew, $140 for PureRaw

Actually not that bad if you're a professional or only upgrading the version once every few versions

[grizzled nebula]

their noses are yellow..

[glossy sage]

Today I learned. It was like a ivoryish gray in person. I wonder how much lighting affects that color or if they age and lose/gain pigmentation something to research

Thanks for ya help

[grizzled nebula]

goodnight

i'm half asleep rn

[glossy sage]

3am enjoy sleep

[sharp ether]

I can only dream of getting photos like this

[spring vault]

yall missed a fire culling stream hitrate 110%

[bitter trench]

Deserved for using chrome

[sharp ether]

I got my pc when I still didn't get into photography

I would get 64gb now

but 32gb isn't too bad

[tough hull]

Yeah best bokeh you can gat

[undone slate]

@grizzled nebula where did you find flamingos?

[stable mantle]

O-m-g

PUFFINS ❤️😍❤️😍

Stil on my bucket list to go to the faeröer islands to photograph these amazing birbs😍

[molten moon]

I was in sunny Scotland, took a £40 boat trip out to the Isle of May with my girlfriend and everywhere you looked there were puffins

Not even peak season yet

[stable mantle]

Yea they come in masses

Can’t wait for my trip

[gilded yarrow]

german spotted

[stable mantle]

German? Xd

[gilded yarrow]

Not german? lmao because of the ö

[stable mantle]

Nope

Dutch xD

We use them too

[gilded yarrow]

Ahh

[stable mantle]

well

you made me feel german again

[grizzled nebula]

Dont think imma be able to go out

My neck hurts when i turn it

[stable mantle]

turn it a bit further, be an owl!

[river sandal]

https://tenor.com/view/stewie-stewie-griffin-stewie-head-turn-head-turn-sus-gif-26627265

[grizzled nebula]

ykw imma try anyway

[broken mantle]

Tried something while on a boat yesterday. Failed to position the sunset perfectly behind the birds

[grizzled nebula]

the 2nd one is beautiful

1st one has masking issues

[broken mantle]

Yeah managed to align it with the sunset, but its perching on a caged spotlight thingy

[grizzled nebula]

gonna try seeing these golden eagles this week

really hope i get lucky

[broken mantle]

sadly nope. sunlight on its oily skin burned the highlights

[grizzled nebula]

ah damn

still a nice photo anyway

[broken mantle]

idk i hate their texture lol

on good light it still looks too smooth oily like someone goes 100% on the denoise slider and makes it look cartoony

[broken mantle]

here. its on top of a caged spotlight thing

failed to align it lol

[tender galleon]

https://tenor.com/view/kiopioke-birds-angry-goose-seagull-gif-11516437225694133378

[broken mantle]

my dumb a** opened my other eye and looked directly at the setting sun 😂

[tender galleon]

beautiful light

[grizzled nebula]

DUST SPOT NOOO

[grizzled nebula]

i edited it but still

[tender galleon]

show before 😈

[grizzled nebula]

helps with the blown highlights

this was near sunset tbf

[tender galleon]

still nice light

[grizzled nebula]

dust spot fixed

[tender galleon]

is a blow thing necessary

i dont wanna buy

[grizzled nebula]

?

[tender galleon]

the air

[grizzled nebula]

oh a dust blower

[tender galleon]

yes

[grizzled nebula]

well it's recommended but tbh i just use my mouth to blow it away

a blower will be far more effective tho

[tender galleon]

my dad has this thing for his ear shouldnt this do the job

[broken mantle]

then ear wax to the sensor

[tender galleon]

there shouldnt be any inside

[broken mantle]

i once got one of those cheap pre-wet sensor swabs

turns out they are too wet

end up drying tons of liquid on my sensor glass

[tender galleon]

rip

[broken mantle]

[glossy sage]

What is the circular bokeh?

I like it a lot

[grizzled nebula]

out of focus light

[broken mantle]

anyone here tried birding with those donut bokeh lens?

[grizzled nebula]

don't think it'd be possible tbh

[broken mantle]

yeah. probably only static subjects. no chromatic abberation, but soft image.

[broken mantle]

nice pic on the right

[grizzled nebula]

yh i like that one a lot

[stable mantle]

bruh

[tough hull]

I bet I can understand you when you talk slow

[stable mantle]

Dan zal ik heel langzaam voor je praten zodat je mij kunt verstaan! < 3

[tough hull]

Dann doll ich halt langsam zu dir sprechen so dass du mich verstehen kannst something like that

[stable mantle]

[tough hull]

German and dutch do similar

[stable mantle]

Ich kan auch deutch sprechen!

[tough hull]

Nice

[stable mantle]

Live near the german border

[tough hull]

Nice

[stable mantle]

my mothers side german so

[tough hull]

I don’t think my parents have ever been to the Netherlands

lol

Me neither

But my great grandfather was there

As soldier

In ww2

Bruh

[stable mantle]

My mothers grandfather was supposed to as well

[tough hull]

K

[stable mantle]

But he died during the polish invasion

[tough hull]

Sad

My great grandfathers dad didn’t want him to fight but they forced them

[stable mantle]

yeap that's what happens during war unfortunately 🙁

People up top fighting like children and sending common people to the meatgrinder.

[tough hull]

Yeah…

Anyway it’s so sad I was so you when my other great grandpa died

He was also into birding when he was younger

[grizzled nebula]

Tbh i was talking for lenses

Waiting for woody

[tough hull]

F

I leaked a secret

[tough hull]

Yeah go and give home some close up headshots

[undone slate]

HOOOW?

[molten moon]

They were.. everywhere lmao

[undone slate]

everywhere...

but where?

[molten moon]

Isle of May

[green canyon]

youre dutch?

[stable mantle]

Yes

[green canyon]

je hebt zeer leuke foto's

[molten moon]

Honestly I should learn Dutch with the amount of time I spend in The Netherlands

[green canyon]

im learning it in school right now

[stable mantle]

Danku danku 😁

[molten moon]

If they'd run Ongezellig for a few more seasons I'd have probably picked it up sooner

[tender galleon]

lens hood is like half of the size

[limber birch]

Hey, looking to get into some birding, but hiking out in the woods doesnt seem fun to carry a full-sized backpack. What do you all use? Do you just go outside with a camera in your hands/on strap with batteries in your pocket? Or do you use a small sling bag or bring a full backpack?

[green canyon]

i do bring a full backpack

i think most people do

but to be fair most of that backpack will be occupied by the lens

[molten moon]

Unless you fancy sitting in a hide by the roadside with your car within arms reach, which is perfectly valid, I think lugging your kit and making a full day of it with a hike is part of the experience?

[limber birch]

Yeah I tried that. Unfortunately, im a bit worried of gear flopping around in it when i lie down and crawl around

[molten moon]

I usually carry my camera (200-600 attached) in my hand as i walk in a comfortable position, but there's space for me to put it in my pack. I also carry my 70-200 and 24-70 with me for opportunistic landscape shots. With the addition of lunch, a good book and a power-bank, it all gets quite heavy if you're not used to it

That being said, my school bag used to be heavier and I'm under no illusion that I am more used to heavily weighted hikes than most others, so no expectation for my feelings to be "normal" here

[limber birch]

yeah right now in my bag I have my birding kit (Z8 and 400 4.5) and my backup DSLR, with Dad's 70-200 and 24-70. since the 400 4.5 is so small, i was considering downsizing to a sling or something

[green canyon]

what kind of backpack do you use?

[limber birch]

I had a lowepro, moved to nanuk

[green canyon]

i personally wouldnt see any use in the 70-200 and a backup

makes it heavy

[molten moon]

So my carrying of the 200-600 is to rest the body on my shoulder and hold the camera by the hood - I find that to be very comfortable.

[green canyon]

are there no dividers?

[limber birch]

there are, but the bag is so deep, things can wobble a bit

[molten moon]

Depends, I usually end up using it for random landscapes or such likes while I walk. I usually travel with others too, so it's good for on-the-trail candids

[limber birch]

I was actually looking at smaller sling bags. to see if I can fit the z8 and 400, and then also maybe like a 24-120 on my DSLR as well, for walkarounds

i liked the look of the new Think Tank photocross 14L

but that looks to be VERY snug for 2 setups

[molten moon]

The 70-200 is definitely non essential, though - although if you're going on a long hike I'd always recommend a 24-70

[green canyon]

do you use a strap for your 200-600? the regular one is so uncomfortable around my neck, im looking for a replacement

[molten moon]

If you find out, please let me know, I'm in the same situation

I really need to stop letting it hang from the body

I don't walk with it dangling, but I catch myself letting it hang momentarily too often

[limber birch]

i dont reccomend the peak design strap if you use a backpack. the strap has to slide around your body, and in my experience it gets pinched between your back and the bag, so its hard to bring camera up to my face

[green canyon]

i have it attached to my lens but it really sucks

[green canyon]

Good to know

but what else is there

ive seen ones you can attach to the backpack, that just seems annoying though

[limber birch]

blackrapid is better imo, camera slides along the strap instead of strap slinging around you

only thing is you screw it in, so kinda cumbersome for quick attach/detach

[green canyon]

leofoto has this

[spring vault]

pro strat to make 200-600 feel lighter is rent a 600f4 and use it for a couple days

[green canyon]

but itd end up in a regular strap aswell i guess

[green canyon]

the weight would be no problem if i could carry it with something other than my neck all the time

[molten moon]

I can't decide whether I want bro facing right, or left

[green canyon]

id do right

looks more curious

[molten moon]

I like it, Picasso

[spring vault]

damn that's an ugly duck

looks bald lol

[limber birch]

this one

35L, and I like it

just a bit unsure about the mobility

[green canyon]

seems alright

[limber birch]

heres what I mean by room for gear to flop around

[green canyon]

i like smaller backpacks but 35 is not thaaaaat big

[limber birch]

ye but it fits the 400 4.5 pretty dang well

[green canyon]

maybe just get a bit more packing material?

[river sandal]

Easy fix would be little foam blocks that you pack in

[limber birch]

under the lens?

[river sandal]

Yeah. Or where ever there’s extra space that causes movement

[limber birch]

i would do under. Otherwise might be bothersome when getting gear out?

[river sandal]

If anything they would just come out with the gear

Small inconvience for cheap quick fix to protect gear

[naive fiber]

I need to go to an isle

[tough hull]

I usually go to my birding spot with a backpack, then when I’m there (I go there by bike) I put my bike and my backpack in the woods so no one sees it and I walk around just with my camera and a strap

[limber birch]

how big of a lens?

[tough hull]

Sony 200-600

[limber birch]

thats like abit longer than 70-200 right

[tough hull]

Yes but if it’s f2.8 idk

[green canyon]

its 33cm

[tough hull]

Your 70-200

[limber birch]

oh dang. mine's 31.5 on a body

[tough hull]

lol

[limber birch]

i guess you get 200mm more though

600 would be nice

[molten moon]

Yeah the 200-600 is quite large, physically

It's all internal zoom

Not as large as a prime of course, and it's light - but she's chonki

Exhibit A: of my girlfriend taking a phone grab of me getting the puffin shots

[dusty fog]

careful bro dont fall

[limber birch]

What do you all think of the new think tank sling? I was seriously considering it for outdoors stuff

[molten moon]

She got very annoyed at me “standing by the edge” so I proved a point

This was the “cliff” she was worried about

[limber birch]

careful. you'd need a new lens if you fell

[molten moon]

It’s fantastic for wildlife

[molten moon]

It’s a Guillemot

[limber birch]

unfortunately the areas i go to usually have a few others, and no good places to hide the bag on a beach so i kinda have to carry my backpack

was seriously considering this though; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=orS6vvn5q3k seems to be a decent bag that would fit my 400

[tough hull]

If it fits in there it’s all alright. I personally would decide whether I want a backpack based on the terrain. sometimes I go on a lil mountain that has kestrels so I get a backpack so that I can walk and climb that thing up since my camera would just swing around and hit a rock or block me when there’s closer stones. Or if there’s a spot where it’s slippery a backpack may be the best thing.

@molten moon that shot was nice, why delete?

[tough hull]

Ok nice shot

[molten moon]

Only realised when I posted it that it was a tad dark

[limber birch]

what are your thoughts on lenscoat/rolanpro covers? should I get one?

[tough hull]

Idk how much they help about like scratch protection, I would definitely get one if I had the money but rn I’m saving up for a star tracker though I think for camouflage they are useless if you’re not in a hide or wearing camouflage yourself since the lens is generally smaller and less visible

[spring vault]

I think theyre ugly but they do protect a little

[green canyon]

i would like one aswell but i cant justify the price

[limber birch]

yeah im just worried about putting my lens down and getting scratches lol

[tough hull]

Idk this is very valid point, I have not gotten any scratches yet but I have gotten like marks from softer stones which I could rub off. I will get a lens cover as soon as I have the tracker.

[tough hull]

WAGTAIL

They are funny

[molten moon]

We had our very own personal Wagtail friend while we walked around the Island

[tough hull]

But they get boring since there’s so many of them

[tough hull]

Nice

Yellow wagtails are so much cooler

[grizzled nebula]

well fuck all today

[tender galleon]

i was waiting for some fieldfares in my backyard and a robin came so close ❤️

but its like super dark so i didnt get the best shots of any

[stable mantle]

At this point you are my new favourite person in this discord<3

Please keep them puffins coming!!

[grizzled nebula]

my neck hurts so bad now

maybe i shouldn't have gone out

[stable mantle]

@limber birch I walk arround with camera + big lens + smaller lens.

How i carry? Cotton carrier camera harness. Got like a pouch attached to it that carries the not in use lens 😁

If i need extra gear and stuff with me i got my lowepro backpack with

[dark ermine]

thoughts?

[stable mantle]

Love the light!

[stable mantle]

No go again! Be one with the owl and the owl will be you!

[dark ermine]

thanks, been staring at it too long so wasn't sure if i overcooked it

[stable mantle]

I mean i love it. But Puffins?

[glossy sage]

the yellow/green in the left too bright

and probably increase birb texture

[glossy sage]

So what is the process of kidnapping a hawk and then making it sit pretty for you in your softbox?

[stable mantle]

😍😍😍

[molten moon]

I discarded all of these shots initially and then stumbled on them during a harddrive clearout too

Bro was in an enclosure that had a small hole at the top for light

But the bars of the enclosure absolutely washed out the image

I used a lifetime supply of dehaze on these

[tender galleon]

no way

i hear long-eared owl cubs

[tender galleon]

same

[magic crown]

did anyone see bee eater ? the season is starting

[grizzled nebula]

Not yet personally

[dusty fog]

great conditions and edit

give tutorial?

[grizzled nebula]

Ik there’s some at porquerolles and I want to go there in the few days

[magic crown]

idk if they are back i will check it at Marais du vigueirat to see if they are back normally they are

[stable mantle]

Can I count my dog? He eats bees xD

[glossy sage]

Only if you dye his fur multiple colors

[stable mantle]

That would be funny xD

[magic crown]

https://tenor.com/view/smg4-mario-laughing-gif-23988493

[grizzled nebula]

according to ebird there are some there

[naive fiber]

bee eaters came to the uk recently

[naive fiber]

Previous nest sites have been all over – from the Isle of White to Cumbria to County Durham.

[gilded yarrow]

Waaaay too far away tho

I'm extremely unlucky again lmao, nothing is close enough

[grizzled nebula]

idk if i saved it

Closest I’ve gotten to a woodpecker but the body is oof

[naive fiber]

WHAT LENS

[stable mantle]

sharp birb

[naive fiber]

Ok there's some vingetting ig

Hummingbird as well

How close was this dude

[stable mantle]

very

[tough hull]

Pixabay?

[tough hull]

Yes

[spring vault]

tried doin a tineye search and the original website is offline but the photo was taken in 2015

[glossy sage]

600m f/4 puttin monei on it

A pro who hits 10mil+ views wouldn't use worse

[remote remnant]

could be an 800 5.6 smh

[spring vault]

so called pro stopped paying to host their website smh

[remote remnant]

what a bum

[spring vault]

trying to load it on the wayback machine but it looks like their website was only up for 2 years 2017-2018

[glossy sage]

maybe they have a new one!

or died

[naive fiber]

unsplash

only gave the body name

[tough hull]

Bever heard of that

[naive fiber]

its like pixabay but basically all photography thats pretty

or most of it

pixabay is a bit broader methinks

[tough hull]

Poxabay has a lot of weird images

We used it in school and that’s how I got to know it

And my friend had to do a presentation about pear trees so he searched pear on pixabay and it recommended a blocked image with the description “woman, naked, dark”

Idk he was probably at fault

He’s a witch anyway because he has red hair

[tough hull]

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DXpRxYPDUoY/?igsh=MWppNnU3ZWJ3bWZkcg==

You know this guy?

I’ve been watching this for quite a while it’s really nice

[tough hull]

You can’t see the face

[grizzled nebula]

too bright

my head already hurts but now it's exploaded

[tough hull]

That’s nice

[unborn frost]

still trying to get a decent in flight shot, my positioning is whack :c practicing some moody edits cause the shots were eh

[tough hull]

Ducks are hard to get a nice picture of tbh

Because it’s like always the same

[unborn frost]

theres probably a better way to go but my edits swing towards whatever ive seen recently

[tough hull]

K

I personally only do ducks very close now

Like mallard

Not ducks in general

[unborn frost]

yeah duck portraits can come out really nice with some decent lighting. they're not the most active

[tough hull]

Tbh mallards are the only duck species I want to get in flight, Tufted and mandarin ducks are my favorite examples of why so many ducks are shit to get in flight

Because those beautiful feathers are less visible then

[indigo radish]

Took this photo with my Sony Alpha A230 DSLR and Tamron 75-300mm Di LD Telephoto Macro Lens

It's a nesting Swan

[grizzled nebula]

re edited some griffon vultre pics

wish this one was higher quality

this is quality 🔥

[gilded yarrow]

Uhoh I took a video

Am I banned from photography lounge now

[grizzled nebula]

this mf has an air duct lmao

[glossy sage]

Never do cool birds show up when I have my camera

Gray created flycatcher. Dude looks like its got a mohawk

[grizzled nebula]

idk if i like this one

[glossy sage]

I hate vultures

[grizzled nebula]

why lol

[glossy sage]

Ugly as fuck

[grizzled nebula]

the griffon vulture is so cool

[glossy sage]

Big territorial ugly birbs

[indigo radish]

Swans are pretty tho right?

[glossy sage]

Some swan

[grizzled nebula]

indeed

[grizzled nebula]

griffons are cool and not ugly

[glossy sage]

I'll yield on that bc I havent seen a griffon vulture

[indigo radish]

Did you see the photo of the nesting Swan I posted?

[stable mantle]

Owls are the prettiest

[grizzled nebula]

no

[indigo radish]

This one

[naive fiber]

So damn coll

Cool

I can’t type

[gilded yarrow]

Fixed the colors on the pic from yesterday

Slightly pink now but I like it

Was like WAYYY to green

[naive fiber]

I like this more

[gilded yarrow]

Yeah not sure what I did there yesterday lmao ngl

[naive fiber]

I need to get lr again and take a shot at this

I dont usually edit photos that arent mine well tbh

I think its also having that dedication towards your own photo ig

[grizzled nebula]

leaves

didn't really bother editing it

[naive fiber]

Guys

Wren or goldcrest

[stable mantle]

Goldcrest

[naive fiber]

Nature for you

[stable mantle]

mohawk birbs!

[naive fiber]

6g grumpy mohawk birds

I would be grumpy if i was that small too

[grizzled nebula]

ykw he just kinda too cute

worth going through the small effort of doing proper denoising?

[naive fiber]

God these must be so hard to spot how do people do it

[naive fiber]

You could try but youll probably get rid of the pic anyway

[grizzled nebula]

they're not super difficult to spot but are extremely difficult to get a good pic of cause of the trees and bushes they're usually in

[naive fiber]

Yeah I would assume they would be

[grizzled nebula]

best pic i have of one

[naive fiber]

Something that small would probably be too dangered in the open

[grizzled nebula]

i have a better edit

[naive fiber]

Along with most other teeny birds

[grizzled nebula]

lemme find it

holy fuck it took me a long time lol

idk wtf i did with the crop

[naive fiber]

It looks a bit off centre

But like

Ik its meant to be but its a funny crop

[grizzled nebula]

no it was meant to be centered

idk why i didn't center it in the re edit

[naive fiber]

Oh lmao

[grizzled nebula]

jock dowe

[wide flint]

Al die Nederlanders hier ook

[stable mantle]

verschrikkelijk

[grizzled nebula]

best i could get out of it

[bitter trench]

Running lightroom off my 8gb ram laptop in this heat is gonna be the end of me

[bitter trench]

I just missed a shot of a hawk and crow fighting

[magic crown]

Going somewhere today

[shut hazel]

if u mean a mirror lens

then yes i have

tamro 500mm f8 + d3400

very hard to do but i got some crow shots

[shut hazel]

i caught a barn swallow :>

[charred holly]

At this point, I would just use the mobile version on my phone

[grizzled nebula]

man i need to get a kick stand

welp i think i'll be resting my neck today

going out on the bike yesterday made it worse

well on the electric bike

should've taken the other one

[grizzled nebula]

i might go out later even tho i can barely turn my neck

[magic crown]

Yeah finally

[dark ermine]

8 lifers this year so far
eastern kingbird, scarlet tanager, blue grosbeak, Yellow-throated Warbler, Orchard Oriole, Green Heron, Yellow-breasted Chat, Spotted Sandpiper

[glossy sage]

Is this post processing?

I can't tell you what about this one is off but its not registering right to me

I think it's the cubic compression pattern over the bokeh messing with me. I'm guessing this is a screenshot of the image?

[magic crown]

Nope it's the original (low res preview)

[glossy sage]

Ahhhh ok makes sense

I need more painted buntings in my life

Pretty rare though. Elusive AF

[magic crown]

Hell yeah my first roller shot

[grizzled nebula]

i still haven't seen one 😢

[magic crown]

Tbh that was pure luck i was going back home and i saw one i hide behind a tree and take my camera out of the bag so fast lmao

[tender galleon]

been waiting for fieldfares for so long

i aint giving up

just when i put my phone down one came

got fire shots

[undone slate]

what's that?

[magic crown]

An European Roller

[undone slate]

i've never seen one before

they're not from northern spain

😭

[grizzled nebula]

spain has a lot more than france

like a huge amount more

[undone slate]

i'm not sure

I am from the north of Spain

[grizzled nebula]

u don't have any in the north unfortunately for u

but spain as a whole as a lot more than france

[undone slate]

yes

idk if i have any exclusive bird in my area

[grizzled nebula]

tried waiting for a bird to go infront of it but didn't happen 😢

[green canyon]

sad

[tough hull]

I started birding this year so 90 species this year so far 🔥

Actually only like 60

Because the other ones I have noticed before

Alright I counted and actually for the first time I noticed 33 species

The others I have seen before/ logged based on images

[dark ermine]

@tough hull i started a (north america) pokedex of sorts for my birding, the link is in my profile

so 70 now after I upload these most recent ones

[tough hull]

Nice

[dark ermine]

idk gives me an existential crisis knowing i'll def never see 2k birds lol but hey i can try

[glossy sage]

@grizzled nebula and you actually have 600 f/4?

[grizzled nebula]

yes

[glossy sage]

Is that a 1.4x and a 2x too??

[grizzled nebula]

No only got a 1.4X

[grizzled nebula]

i wanna see one

[glossy sage]

I want a 1.4x but some website someone sent me a SS of in shopping help showed it'd make my photos pretty soft

[grizzled nebula]

i was meant to go to a place where one was reported but i decided not too cause of my neck

i regret it tho

[grizzled nebula]

for what lens

[glossy sage]

Tamron SP G2 150-600

[grizzled nebula]

yh

nah

don't get a tc for it

[glossy sage]

I was planning an upgrade to the RF 100-500 but my job has become not as secure as it was

[tender galleon]

raw

[glossy sage]

I can tell

[grizzled nebula]

not the sharpest lens to begin with but awful with tc

[glossy sage]

Gotchya

For an older lens I dont really mind its sharpness. 550mm at f/8 is pretty sharp if you're not a pixel peeper

At 600mm it falls off a lot more

[grizzled nebula]

i mean it could possibly be useable on 24mp tbf but it's still not great

[glossy sage]

A TC?

[grizzled nebula]

yh

at F/10 there's a significant sharpness increase

[glossy sage]

I'll just have to wait and see if I can get a new job and probably check it out if I ever get the 100-500

[grizzled nebula]

don't expect it to be super sharp tho

[glossy sage]

The bird looks outside of the depth of field

[glossy sage]

The rf 100-500?

[grizzled nebula]

no the 150-600

[glossy sage]

Oh, yeah its not but it works

[grizzled nebula]

btw with a TC on the 100-500 you're only at 100mm more than the 150-600 at F/10

but it stays sharp atleast

[glossy sage]

Hey 100mm more is 100mm more

And the AF is much faster ^

[undone slate]

@grizzled nebula How is it possible that you find birds (common and rare) everywhere you go?

[grizzled nebula]

2x tc at F/16 is semi usable

[grizzled nebula]

tru

[grizzled nebula]

i barely find any birds

[glossy sage]

The answer: camargue

[grizzled nebula]

i re edit old images a lot

[grizzled nebula]

i wish i was close to it

3h is quite a lot

[glossy sage]

My friend lives in Nice. Been begging him to go for me he refuses

[grizzled nebula]

juletek is much closer and can take the bus there easily

[grizzled nebula]

was a fraud (it's 5h away from nice iirc)

[undone slate]

what's camargue?

[undone slate]

hoopoe, flamingos...

this thing

[glossy sage]

This was 600mm at f/6.3 (before I knew this lens had sharpness issue wide open). Photos like this make me wish I had the 100-500

[grizzled nebula]

that's just a gull lmao

[grizzled nebula]

hoopoes are common here and flamingos i saw in camargue which is a huge flamingo hotspot

[undone slate]

yes but it seems like you always find the perfect moment

[grizzled nebula]

looks kinda over processed

[grizzled nebula]

not reall

[undone slate]

what's camargue?

[grizzled nebula]

a natural reserve

[undone slate]

Where did you take that photo from?

[glossy sage]

The woods

[grizzled nebula]

that is not centered is it

[glossy sage]

• Warmed it up
• drew a gradient over the natural light and turned it up
• Duplicated & inverted that and increased contrast/blacks
• increased birb texture
• and birb was dirty AF so I desaturated some of the bright yellow clay stuck to it

Ran it through dxo for denoise

[grizzled nebula]

the denoising is what looks overprocessed

have raw file to send by anything just to check

[glossy sage]

Not at desk rn

I used DxO DG3 I think it was called in PureRaw6

[undone slate]

yes it is

[glossy sage]

Its doing a michael jackson lean

[naive fiber]

No it's slightly right

Centering birds gotta be the biggest trial and error thing

[undone slate]

WOW

[grizzled nebula]

still haven't seen a squacco heron

[glossy sage]

Why

[undone slate]

where are u from?

[grizzled nebula]

cause i haven't

[glossy sage]

Florida

You've asked me this 3-4 times

[grizzled nebula]

i wanna go to floodrida for hurricane season

storm chasing

[glossy sage]

Heres an eastern cattle egret. They look similar

[grizzled nebula]

not really

[undone slate]

i've forgotten it

[glossy sage]

They r both white with brown

Must be the same birds tbh

[undone slate]

bu they're from europe

[grizzled nebula]

grumpy egret

[glossy sage]

Oh yeah its pissed

[grizzled nebula]

squacco heron has hair

[glossy sage]

Ok

[glossy sage]

🤷 i can't say I have ever had anyone say that to me. 210-250km/h winds with 2 meter high flooding in some zones there isn't much you can do but sit inside and play cards

[undone slate]

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