Bird Photography

[tough hull]

Fuck heat haze

[grizzled nebula]

Imma go home for an hour or 2 and come back out later

Cant hear anything anymore anyways cause theres some annoying fucking music

[magic crown]

Scops owls are really hard to get it's even harder than a tawny owl

[grizzled nebula]

Cuckoo next to me somewhere 👀

Cunts

Ffs

[grizzled nebula]

Been looking for them for the past hour lol

Can we ban cunts that put the music as loud as possible

Imma burn that house

Scops owl heard again

Hmm

Short toed snake eagle?

[tough hull]

Yes please

[grizzled nebula]

First time i see a short toed snake eagle

[tough hull]

K

[unborn frost]

@glossy sage did you have to do any edits before printing? Ive been looking into printing and ive tried at home but icc are a pain to deal with and sometimes the colours are washed. Do labs manage accurate color representation from digital to print or are there noticeable differences?

[grizzled nebula]

Back home rn

Gonna take a small rest and go back out

[tough hull]

Luck you, I gotta go to a birthday party by my dads cousin

[grizzled nebula]

Have fun ig

ik it's low quality but first short toed snake eagle

[tough hull]

I wish

I barely know that guy

Like yeah I have seen him but it’s just cuz it’s my dads family

There were so many animals at my spot today 😭

And I head to leav

Like this guy

I will bring a net next time, catch a baby frog and throw it to the snake and then take pics of this “rare wildlife moment”

[grizzled nebula]

dayum

[tough hull]

The snake isn’t rare though

[tough hull]

Do I see heat haze?

[grizzled nebula]

i tried to do super resolution so i could crop a bit more but heat haze is also indeed there

it was hundreds of meters away from me

[tough hull]

K

[grizzled nebula]

if only these were high quality 😢

[magic crown]

the heat haze

[grizzled nebula]

all my homies hate heat haze

[stable mantle]

And it’s not even summer yet

Oh boy

[gilded yarrow]

1st time getting actually good bif pics

[charred holly]

Got yelled at by a guard at a natural reserve because I was 15 minutes late for closure

Time flies too fast with a camera in front of my eyes...

[naive fiber]

Ugh I just spotted a couple of goldfinches perfectly

And I don't have my camera

That's what we are getting

[charred holly]

Gotta invest into the greatest lens known to mankind

[glossy sage]

https://youtu.be/j9J1RFgrgiI

Damn

[naive fiber]

I may get one of these

Idfk the reach of it

I'm just saving up for a 150-600

This was in my garden as well

[glossy sage]

Dont save for the 150-600, save for the 600 f/4

[naive fiber]

Only a measly 3k

[charred holly]

I would be surprised if that much magnification on such a tiny sensor would result in anything more than noise

To be fair

I used to have a Lumix TZ100

~400mm equivalent on a 1" sensor

It was suprisingly alright on sunny days

[gilded yarrow]

I've found the wing and tail of a blue tit

[naive fiber]

Big

[naive fiber]

Pretty cool tbh

[tender galleon]

pica pica funny name

[magic crown]

https://tenor.com/view/pikachu-angry-angry-pikachu-pikemon-pokemon-gif-16268096204573495797

[charred holly]

Here is my pica

[naive fiber]

Peak birding spot

[shut hazel]

The one time i dont have my camera

I just found an aw3some spot for swallows holy

Its so close

[gilded yarrow]

Too far away sadly, thought it worked better

[grizzled nebula]

maybe a bit too bright

[grizzled nebula]

i need to re edit this one

most of my swallow pics need re editing

[naive fiber]

Swallows are cool

They look like a pitchfork

Not a pitchfork

whatever this is

[undone slate]

Feedback?

[naive fiber]

You need to get lowww

[undone slate]

yea...

i think it wasn't possible in that ocasion 😭

it was a in a river

[naive fiber]

Fair but it isn't such an interesting picture

Photos when you at eye level with the bird are the most interesting

[naive fiber]

So your camera matches the bird eye

[undone slate]

So how do I take photos in a river?

[undone slate]

yep, i know

[naive fiber]

You can still get low

Ig

[undone slate]

i don't think so

[naive fiber]

I wouldn't say it's worth it to do that until the z6

Because it's probably going to be a lot of effort for a low quality pic

[undone slate]

yep

Well, I'll soon be going to a wetland that's great for bird photography, as the birds are usually close by and it's at eye level. I think I could get a good photo, plus it's an open area with more light.

[shut hazel]

They let me so close wtf

[grizzled nebula]

used to humans probably

and tbf swallows get really close to humans anyway

some literally fly 20cm away from my head

[fresh epoch]

Swans and common goldeneyes. Thoughts? Cc?

[undone slate]

where was that?

[naive fiber]

Very nice

Maybe a bit tilted?

Cold day lmao

[grizzled nebula]

too dark

i think

yh nvm

i need to mask

better?

[fast knoll]

head too close to corner imo

[grizzled nebula]

could stitch it

[fresh epoch]

Was a very cold day, was laying on my stomach on the edge of the ice. Lens almost touching the water. Laid there for like 20 - 30 mins 😂

[naive fiber]

Owch

Nice photo though

[naive fiber]

WHY DO THEY HAVE TO BE SO RARE THEY ARE SO CUTE

[grizzled nebula]

i keep looking for these but can't find them

forgot i used the wrong white balance

better a bit warmer or more blue?

[naive fiber]

Warmer

This is cold

[tough hull]

@undone slate I’m being honest with you, right now if you don’t get perfect lighting or close enough, you probably won’t get good pictures. But the more you practice, getting close to birds, the better and easier will it be to get amazing images once you get your camera. So right now I personally would focus on trying to get good approaching techniques more than actually getting images. Later this is gonna help so much.

[stable mantle]

Go hot!

[naive fiber]

I'm pretty sure these are really fucking rare here

[grizzled nebula]

we have them everywhere here

like there's 5 or 6 calling rn outside

and there's probably a lot lot more if i go out and explore into the forest

[naive fiber]

Wait no

Wait what breed is this?

[tough hull]

I have never heard or seen owls 😭

[naive fiber]

Eurasian scoops owl

[stable mantle]

I hear them almost every night!

[naive fiber]

We don't have them here

[stable mantle]

there are like 4 of them where i live xD

[grizzled nebula]

damn that's sad

i heard 3 call today in the afternoon

[naive fiber]

I have seen an owl but only in a conservation thing

Being held

Barely counts

[grizzled nebula]

i've only seen a captive one

well actually 2 captive ones

[stable mantle]

I can hear them at night when i open my window '-'

[grizzled nebula]

nvm 3 lol

[grizzled nebula]

i can hear them without opening my window sometimes

4 or 5 days ago i literally heard one through my headset with music on

it was in the car park that's just 10 steps away i think

[stable mantle]

damn

thats loud

[grizzled nebula]

tbh i never put volume too high

i'm at 40% volume most of the time

k time for me to go watch tv

[tough hull]

No

Go and edit

Or

[stable mantle]

I agree with @tough hull

go edit!

[tough hull]

Go to bed so you can bird tomorrow

[grizzled nebula]

i have nothing left to edit unfortunately

tomorrow bigger day hopefully

[stable mantle]

go reset some photos and re-edit but different style

[tough hull]

Yes

[grizzled nebula]

final episode of this show

[charred holly]

Some not-too-bad shots of today

[unborn frost]

the lighting is horrible but i thought this shot was okay to do a quick edit. went out trying to take a shot of what i think is a red kite that ive seen flying around my area. hoping to get a shot of it soon!

[grizzled nebula]

gl

[naive fiber]

Like this aspect ratio lol

Gl

[tough hull]

Sweden last year. Probably my first actual dedicated bird photo that I would still consider good. The edit maybe not but I can always go and try again

Same day btw 😭

[grizzled nebula]

wtf

[grizzled nebula]

this one's quite nice tho

[tough hull]

Yes

[tough hull]

Yeah

[stable mantle]

Look its the goose on a goose again! 😄

[tough hull]

Lmao

[naive fiber]

Aw it came back

[stable mantle]

xD

[naive fiber]

This would look nice if you fixed this exposure and masking

[tough hull]

Tbh all my woodpeckers from then are shit I have like 40 more I should go delete them

[naive fiber]

Oh god I thought they were killed

[grizzled nebula]

my only good woodpecker shots

[stable mantle]

woody woodpecker!

[naive fiber]

Woodpeckers are such unique birds

[grizzled nebula]

these were the first ones i got (complete garbage)

[naive fiber]

Blinding

[stable mantle]

the first one is funny. Like how he walks on that branch lol

[tough hull]

Nah not really possible

Lighting was shit

[naive fiber]

Oh I see

[tough hull]

Also the 40 pics where on another day

[naive fiber]

I was wondering if the massive bright light was masking or lighting

[grizzled nebula]

do u have the raw by any chance 👀

[tough hull]

I attempted an HDR before and forgot to reset ev and messed with exposure cuz image was so dark but didn’t realize lmao

[tough hull]

Not rn

It’s on the computer

Actually

Wait

[grizzled nebula]

old pic

cloudy skies can be nice sometimes but in this situation not really

[naive fiber]

Odd birds

So funny tbh

[grizzled nebula]

i like when they get fluffy like this

[tough hull]

at 300mmbtw

[grizzled nebula]

bruh dxo is down

[tough hull]

Gg

[grizzled nebula]

nvm

[tough hull]

I’m so lucky I denoised this before my trial ended lol

[grizzled nebula]

idk why it disconnected me

icl the sky is kinda cooked on ur woodpecker shot

[glossy sage]

2 back to back photos Eric and you posted with epic mask fails

We need a pinned masterclass on using masks

[tough hull]

yeah it was right after sunset i think

[glossy sage]

Photoshop + LR package is $20 monthly. Iirc it boils down to like $16 a month if you buy annual

I feel like I've gotten my moneys worth from it

[tough hull]

thats not only mask fail lmao

the whole image is shit

[eternal igloo]

saw a double crested cormorant for the first time today !!

[grizzled nebula]

i may or may not be not paying for photoshop and lightroom 👀

[eternal igloo]

absolutely horrid photo but it took off from beneath me on a pier

[tough hull]

either overexposed sky ormasking hell

[glossy sage]

You can clean up the sky without messing the mask up

[tough hull]

try with this raw and send results

then i will let you talk

[glossy sage]

let me talk

[grizzled nebula]

what a beautiful flower

wish a bird could land on it

[glossy sage]

We can go photo for photo right now

[grizzled nebula]

need to try to get it fully in the frame tomorrow

[glossy sage]

If I was a bird I'd land on it

That is a nice flower

[eternal igloo]

what

do u not believe in masking or something 😭

[tough hull]

When we got home from the trip where I saw the lesser whitethroat I took this on my phone, I’m so mad I didn’t try to get it with my camera

[tough hull]

Idk i never managed it

[eternal igloo]

just use object masking for birds in Lightroom

[tough hull]

brother

thats what i did

[eternal igloo]

subject detection never works but object is perfect

welp

idk then 😭

[tough hull]

also I used photolab for a month now because no money for Lr

but its also shit

worse than lr

[eternal igloo]

oh 🏴‍☠️lmao

[tough hull]

lr is good

[glossy sage]

Take a brush subtract with a high feather on it and brush out the extra space it added. Its fine if the brush feathers into the bird it shouldn't be noticeable

[tough hull]

i made that sound weird bruh

[glossy sage]

Alternatively if background select will also grab that area (sometimes it shares spaces) you can just scribble over it with a brush -> intersect -> background -> copy -> paste into subject as subtract

[tough hull]

I tried it i remember but i still failed smh with this shot. on other shots i did this and it worked but this one was just ruined

[grizzled nebula]

best i could get out of it

[tough hull]

Missing color lol

[glossy sage]

Add grain and its filmy

[grizzled nebula]

there was no choice really

[tough hull]

yeah

photo is shit

[grizzled nebula]

had to kill the color to get something useable lol

[glossy sage]

Add grain then AI fake water drops in the foreground like ur taking it through a spooky rainy window

[tough hull]

At this point let me just add some Ai prop blur lmao

[glossy sage]

I mean u can but I'll clown u for it. Not hard to lower ur shutter speed

[grizzled nebula]

meh

keep forgetting to remove the watermark

[tough hull]

Idc tbh

as long as its not on social media without asking lol

Thats actually a good try

But well this was my first month of lightroom lmao

I really need to find a good editing software i can stay with so I can really learn it

[stable mantle]

@grizzled nebula so whens the owl hunt? 😄

[grizzled nebula]

maybe tomorrow

i need to find one

[stable mantle]

Yea i need to go out there finding some too

been a year : (

[grizzled nebula]

i've never seen a wild owl

but it's a must

[stable mantle]

very satisfying once you capture one 😄

[tough hull]

alr gn imma go to bed

[stable mantle]

great idea!

[grizzled nebula]

same

it's 3am

and i need to wake up early tomorrow

[astral saffron]

Get a thermal camera and they are supposed to be easy to find

I’ve genuinely considered it

[tough hull]

Me too

Trust me thermals are amazing

I used them before

The forest will be filled with animals

[undone slate]

[undone slate]

And if I get the right lighting, get at eye level, and have the bird close, do you think that with some editing I can get a good photo with my current camera?

[tender galleon]

perfect conditions you can get a good photo with any camera basically

[tough hull]

Well everything needs to be perfect

[undone slate]

yep

I'm going to a wetland in a few weeks; I suppose I could take some good photos there.

[stable mantle]

B-B-B-Bird bird bird the bird is the word

[naive fiber]

I wonder what renting costs are there

Ik you can rent a body but idk how much for

Wetlands are pretty fun but you won't always get the birds

[grizzled nebula]

bad weather today

wanted to go back to the river but i'll go tomorrow instead

[undone slate]

free

[naive fiber]

Renting a body and a lens isnt free

I'm confused

[undone slate]

i'm gonna take the photos with my camera

[naive fiber]

Just wondering

What lens were you looking to get with the z6

[tender galleon]

omg omg

finlands biggest bird is near me rn

gotta put clothes on rq so i dont freeze

[undone slate]

180-600mm

[tough hull]

Crane?

[naive fiber]

Ok yeah makes sense

[naive fiber]

White tailed eagle

According to google

[tough hull]

Huh

I have seen cranes and white tailed

Cranes look a lot bigger

[naive fiber]

It was wingspan measurement sorry

[tough hull]

K

[tender galleon]

translator says sea eagle

idk

[tough hull]

I was fishing and there was a ton of tall grass and I heard something I
Thought it was a moose and suddenly a crane launches and It was like a flying dinosaur lmao

[naive fiber]

There's no definite way to measure size ig

[tough hull]

Ye

[tender galleon]

i meant wingspan biggest bird yes

[tough hull]

Send Latin name

Because German name of whit tailed is also sea eagle or some

[tender galleon]

halieetus albicilla

haliaeetus albicilla i mean

[tough hull]

Yeah a white tailed eagle

[tender galleon]

didnt see it again

[tough hull]

Sad

My pics of it were trash

At least I saw one

[naive fiber]

Bird id is so impressive yet so ass at the same time lmao

As in sound

[undone slate]

should i edit it on darktable?

[tender galleon]

but some eurasian curlews flew over me

[naive fiber]

You could try

Maybe fix the background though

[tender galleon]

i got a super far away pic of it with no detail

[undone slate]

Yea, the problem is that making masks for me is Impossible

[tough hull]

I can Id like at least 3species with a 100% chance here lol

Actually

More

[tender galleon]

doesnt darktable have masking

[undone slate]

yes

[tender galleon]

use it

[undone slate]

but it's pretty difficult to do

it's confusing

[naive fiber]

Some species is so well

[tender galleon]

learn

[naive fiber]

Some just

Idfk

[undone slate]

how

[tender galleon]

merlin?

[naive fiber]

Yeah

[tender galleon]

tutorial

[naive fiber]

It kept getting rock pigeons and collared doves mixed up

[tough hull]

I’d say I can identify Long tailed tit, Eurasian- magpie, jay and green woodpecker and then gray headed woodpecker

The rest are meh

[naive fiber]

Goldfiches, robins, bluetits, and a couple others have been pretty good

[tough hull]

I mean it gets hard if there are blackbirds and three different tits singing, that’s where it gets very hard

[tough hull]

Like I can distinguish blue and great tit but only if there’s not too many more

[eternal igloo]

I think this was a cormorant but I can’t rly tell

[tough hull]

Yes

Cormorants are pretty easy

The head loos a bit like mergansers but I don’t think you could mix those up because their colors are so different

[eternal igloo]

yeah but which cormorant 😭

[tough hull]

Where do you live? I just have great ones here

[eternal igloo]

Cleveland Ohio

im here on a trip rn

[tough hull]

K

[eternal igloo]

I think it’s mostly double crested

With a rare great cormorant

[tough hull]

I think only double crested

Cleveland life list does not have great cormorants

[eternal igloo]

prolly the double crested bc there’s only a matte black color

and orange beak

[tough hull]

Yah

But it’s worth looking at city life list

[tough hull]

Because there hasn’t been a single sighting of a great one in the last 30 days

[tough hull]

Yooooo amazing shot man

[eternal igloo]

got so lucky i almost dismissed it as a seagull just tweaking out in the water lmao

[tough hull]

Lmao same recently with great crested grebes here

[eternal igloo]

I don’t even know how they do this

[tough hull]

lol

So apparently the only cormorants in Ohio are double crested

[grizzled nebula]

He didn't say anything about renting a body?

[naive fiber]

No I asked what renting costs were like there

[grizzled nebula]

i fucking hate cramps

can barely walk rn

my leg is killing me

[tough hull]

Gg

[tender galleon]

hungy birb

stealing blue tits food

[undone slate]

[undone slate]

https://tenor.com/view/steal-it-back-gif-3806770763996174383

[tender galleon]

what

saw first robin of the year today

[grizzled nebula]

first??

[undone slate]

of the year?

[tender galleon]

yeah

not here in the winter

month names in finnish but yeah

its only here when breeding

according to merlin bird id

[naive fiber]

Thats such a shame lmao

Cute things

[tender galleon]

i need to start stalking the blackbirds they are nesting really really close to my house

[eternal igloo]

leave the poor blackbirds alone

don’t stalk them smh 😔

[grizzled nebula]

don't even think i'll be able to go out later

can barely walk rn

[tough hull]

sad

[undone slate]

why?

[naive fiber]

Cramp

[undone slate]

?

what's cramp

Edited

Unedited

I like the result

[grizzled nebula]

Muscle contraction

Very very painful

Excruciating

[undone slate]

But why did that happen to you?

[grizzled nebula]

Was stretching

And got a cramp

[undone slate]

I'm sorry to hear that, I hope you recover soon.

[grizzled nebula]

Oh it will be gone by tomorrow for sure but I hope it’ll be gone in the next 2h

[undone slate]

nice!

[undone slate]

One thing, since you sometimes write while in the forest, do you have Starlink or something like that?

[tacit gazelle]

Woah what app is this

It's time for me to download some birding apps

I have stellarium for space

[undone slate]

merlin bird id

idk if i can get it on pc

[grizzled nebula]

No

There’s a 5g antenna at the top of the mountain

[tacit gazelle]

Oh irs by cornell nice

I know someone who went to cornell

[undone slate]

Ohh ok

[undone slate]

what's cornell?

[grizzled nebula]

The company that made merlin

And Ebird

[undone slate]

ok

[grizzled nebula]

Kill autocorrect

[undone slate]

same

[undone slate]

Yes, now that I see it, there's a big difference after editing it.

[tacit gazelle]

A very prestigious uni in america

[tender galleon]

i dont see any diff

background still too bright and distracting

[tender galleon]

summer is coming

holy fringe

[tough hull]

W

[tough hull]

Get Merlin bird ID and EBird. Both are from Cornell, one is for Identification and one is for logging

[tacit gazelle]

I mostly use it just for the moon tho

[tough hull]

Huh

To plan when it rises or what

[tacit gazelle]

Yea

I don't have actual astrophotography gear

[tough hull]

I’m pretty sure there’s better things than Stellarium for that lol

[tough hull]

Me neither

[tacit gazelle]

It's ok I just like to see where everything else is too

[bitter trench]

I'm travelling to rural japan soon so I should hopefully get some good shots

[green canyon]

no good kingfisher pics 😔

[naive fiber]

Funny

[tough hull]

What are these

Weird ruddy shelduck or what lmao

[naive fiber]

No clue

I'll id them

[naive fiber]

Egyptian goose

[tough hull]

bruh

video quality is shi

[naive fiber]

Yeah data saver

[tough hull]

true

[naive fiber]

I get like 3gb a month so I have to

[green canyon]

dock

[naive fiber]

Geese

[tough hull]

yeah thst a better angle

[green canyon]

dock

[naive fiber]

And a couple more

I leave it running while I play golf

[tough hull]

wait you netherlands?

[naive fiber]

England

[tough hull]

oh right

i did not know you also have parakeet there lol

invasiva ah bird

[naive fiber]

They are like really common here

[tough hull]

in western germany too

like Heidelberg is where i first saw them

[naive fiber]

I find them on my outside walls a lot

Just chilling on a brick

[tough hull]

lol

[naive fiber]

Also really fast really annoying to track

[tough hull]

take pics of them

oh

[naive fiber]

Yeah when you see them they disappear really quickly

I have never got a photo because of it

I need to work on my tracking though

[tough hull]

I saw like 30 last time and managed to get one in a photo

[naive fiber]

Probably with a new lens as well

[naive fiber]

Cute though

I remember salt having a nice photo of one in a tree

[tough hull]

yeah pic was shit

against the sun

[naive fiber]

Ca?

[tough hull]

a bit

but a ton of noise

[tender galleon]

HOLY SHIT IT WAS CLOSE BUT I FUCKED UP AF AND ITS SO NOISY

its more in focus than on that but still not really

shot thru window

[naive fiber]

I see

[naive fiber]

Owl

[tender galleon]

yes

[tough hull]

still amazing

[tender galleon]

i saw a common kestrel chasing that owl but didnt get pic

[tender galleon]

at closest it was under 20m away from the window

[tough hull]

damn

[tender galleon]

i could try denoising tmrw

[tough hull]

I wanna go to finland tbh

[tender galleon]

beatiful nature and birds here

[tough hull]

last time i was there was 2019

def need to go back

once I get a job, after my first succesful year imma go to finland

if i dont decide to move there

[tacit gazelle]

Rip

[tough hull]

because i am tired of german politics and so I just wanna go to finland tbh

[hidden wyvern]

found sonic the hedgehog today

also got the best timed photo (got a few others luckily)

[tough hull]

Niceeee

[grizzled nebula]

saw my first falcon today

[hidden wyvern]

thanks, it was nice day out today in generalfor both birds & flowers

[grizzled nebula]

a eurasian hobby

didn't manage to get super close unfortunately

but i think i found the perfect habitat for them

gonna be tough trying to save it

1 branch in the way as always

[dark ermine]

fluffy butt

[grizzled nebula]

is this decent?

[naive fiber]

Honestly wouldn't keep it

It's decent

Actually I take that back its ok

[grizzled nebula]

i think the watermark saves it icl

[undone slate]

i don't like it

idk how to edit this properly 😭

What I really need to edit is the background saturation, but that's complicated... at least for me

[naive fiber]

Tad extreme with the exposure

[undone slate]

i know

idk how to edit this good

If anyone can help me, I would appreciate it.

[grizzled nebula]

gonna test some new settings tomorrow

hopefully they work

[remote remnant]

your camera will explode

[grizzled nebula]

https://tenor.com/view/oh-no-oh-no-anyway-gif-18887547

will give me an excuse to get R5II

[eternal igloo]

loudest roar ever

[gilded yarrow]

Think I got some nice pics today

[naive fiber]

Some of these crops are a tad extreme no

Or is this just for demonstrations

I like the blossom pic though

[gilded yarrow]

Yeah thats defo not how I'd crop them apart from the one with the chiffchaff

[gilded yarrow]

Ty

[naive fiber]

It would look nice with that bright edit style

If you know what I mean

Yet to get a blossom like that

So pretty

[gilded yarrow]

Yee itll make a good pic, esp since the bird was super close

[grizzled nebula]

damn 2nd is really nice

[naive fiber]

Look forward to seeing it

[eternal igloo]

what camouflage do u guys use

if any

[hidden wyvern]

Lenscoat lenshide

[grizzled nebula]

Lenscoat sucks

Rolanpro is much better

[eternal igloo]

they look the exact same

[grizzled nebula]

Rolanpro has better build quality

Lenscoat tends to fall appart

[eternal igloo]

ah

and what should I wear

like

rolanpro on my big ahh lens

and a decent camo jacket or somethin?

[grizzled nebula]

Just wear anything that blends with the environnement really

You can get a camo suit if u want to look cool

[eternal igloo]

I had a hunter tell me that flecktarn camo was the best for where we r

so

I might go with that

[eternal igloo]

ultimate larping

[grizzled nebula]

I want a 3d camo suit

[hidden wyvern]

They don’t have a photo blind and they’re both durable

Although I’d just go for whichever’s cheaper

The lenshide is like a ghillie suit, decent for sitting still

[grizzled nebula]

i'd rather buy tragopan tbh

[hidden wyvern]

Different application but they’re good too if sitting for awhile

[grizzled nebula]

holy shit i need this

nah this is actually genius

[spring vault]

I don't get the benefit

[hidden wyvern]

Idea is always masking movement with birds, can kinda just not use any “camo”

[grizzled nebula]

i don't really use camo tbh

i have one but eh

[hidden wyvern]

Can be kinda in a building, house, behind something, etc

[grizzled nebula]

i do need to get one of these tho for when it rains

[hidden wyvern]

Those can kind of help mask eyes^ but not sure if the military look does much lol

Birds just see different wave lengths anyway, but they don’t like rapid movement, or eye contact

[grizzled nebula]

it's a raincoat

not too sure about how the R6II deals with rain so i wanna get one to protect it

i wanna get stuff like this just for fun ngl

[hidden wyvern]

My r6 1 has been out in all kinds of weather but it’s best to avoid anyway

All it’d take is one broken seal

[grizzled nebula]

i want but don't need and can't use

[hidden wyvern]

Can barely see the giant moving foliage lol

I will say a boat would be handy though and that’d kind of block movement

[grizzled nebula]

must be so fun

[hidden wyvern]

Low to ground shots are pretty fun in general, but I can’t imagine it’d feel comfortable on a boat

I’d have to try it someday

[grizzled nebula]

having the camera literally on the water is so cool

sun is out tomorrow!

hopefully gonna get to see some big birds

[hidden wyvern]

nice photo, im hoping to get something like this of a swan one day

ive yet to see any swans here

[grizzled nebula]

i'm lucky to have a black swan not far away cause they're very rare in france

[grizzled nebula]

have u checked on ebird?

[hidden wyvern]

i have but no luck, i think the ones here are mute swans

theyre not common whatsoever it seems lol, but theres geese everywhere

[shut hazel]

my new swallow spot is great

[hidden wyvern]

there is a lot of these "fishing" type of birds, so im suprised ive seen no swans yet

maybe theyre more hidden

i live in a place with lots of beaches around just naturally, so pipers too

[shut hazel]

Ill transfer these in a bit but from my new swallow spot

[grizzled nebula]

the background in my swallow spot is too shit to get good pics of them

[shut hazel]

My spot is a dock

Theres trees water everything

[bitter trench]

I haven't managed to find a good spot yet, Tokyo doesnt have anything bigger than ponds most of the time

[tender galleon]

you cant park there its for the birds!

[shut hazel]

Ah

[grizzled nebula]

looks good?

nice?

[tough cipher]

blue sky shots are boring

[tough cipher]

weird centering and perspective too high

[finite flower]

thats based

[tough cipher]

what species is that first bird?

the brown one

is it the same as this?

[grizzled nebula]

no, mine is a black kite

yours is some harrier

not sure which one

wait nvm

[tough cipher]

someone in some wildlife group said it was a western marsh harrier

[grizzled nebula]

i'm really not sure what it is tbh

[wide flint]

yeah that's right

They make for great shots when hunting in areas with a lot of reed

[tough cipher]

this is an overgrown lake kind of or like a flooded grassy field that has reeds out the ass

its a really pretty place, but ive only been there 3 times so far all during like noon-ish hours

[tough hull]

Uh

Didn’t you see kestrels?

[grizzled nebula]

true

[tough hull]

They are falcons

[grizzled nebula]

ik

forgot i saw them

[tough hull]

Lmao

I just realized btw

One kestrel in my image was holding a lizards

BUT THE SHOT IS OUT OF FOCUS

[tough hull]

Yeah snake

[grizzled nebula]

rat..

[tough hull]

But my internet shit I can’t see pictures

[tough hull]

Oh

Mb

As I said I cat see pics rn

Bad internet

[grizzled nebula]

i'm still pissed off i didn't have the right lens on my cam

(sparrowhawk holding a hoopoe)

[tough hull]

I think I saw that before

[grizzled nebula]

yh

sent it 2 days ago

[tough hull]

Now it loaded, nice pic

[undone slate]

wow, even with cropping it has a lot of quality

[tough hull]

Yeah 32.9MP

[undone slate]

my camera has 20 mp and it has medium quality 😭

[tough hull]

Not bad

Some of my crops are 2MP

And don’t look bad

Although these are not birds or animals mostly

Astro ca have low resolution and you won’t see it if you don’t zoom

[gilded yarrow]

Yee but sometimes it looks 10x better through the vf than on a big screen, will see this evening when I get home

But yeah 33mp is great

[tough hull]

Lmao so true

[undone slate]

But why does the Z6 III have much higher quality than my camera if it has 24 MP and my camera has 20 MP?

[tough hull]

Because it can shoot raw

You can denoise yourself

[undone slate]

just for that?

[tough hull]

And you can use better lenses

Plus your pixel size is bigger

5.92 µm on Z6 III

Means more light per pixel

[undone slate]

yep

Someone?

[tough hull]

Means it needs less light so less noise so less denoise so more sharpness

[tough hull]

Yeah here again the camera is killing the sharpness because heavy denoise.

[undone slate]

But can I edit it and turn it into a good photo?

[tough hull]

For viewing it on screen yes, for printing idk maybe

I think you just need some more depth with masking

[undone slate]

But even after watching tutorials, I still can't figure out how to properly create the mask for editing the background...

[tough hull]

Well idk I don’t use darkroom or whatever it’s called yet

[undone slate]

Do you think I can do that with Pixlr?

[grizzled nebula]

It also has a much much bigger sensor

[tough hull]

I said that lol

I mentioned pixel pitch

[glossy sage]

You aren't shooting in RAW, you can't edit as well as the tutorials

[grizzled nebula]

Can barely see my screen rn tbh

[undone slate]

All I want is to select the background and lower the intensity and contrast, nothing more.

[grizzled nebula]

Sun is right behind me

[undone slate]

but i don't now how to do that 😭

[tough hull]

The size of the sensor does not matter actually it’s more the ratio of how many pixel are in tha size

[tough hull]

I have a damn headache rn

[tacit gazelle]

how do u figure does out does it tell u in lightroom?

[glossy sage]

Size matters

[grizzled nebula]

Sesor size does matter

[undone slate]

I thought the sun was at its zenith at this time of day?

[tough hull]

huh

Wdym

[tacit gazelle]

that the crop is 2mp

[tough hull]

I looked it up on my phone

[undone slate]

[tacit gazelle]

does the second mb tell you

[tough hull]

Sensor size doesn’t hehe

[glossy sage]

Crop sensor cope

[tough hull]

A 1000MP full frame is worse than my iPhone 13

[grizzled nebula]

Man i cant see shit

Imma go home anyway cause theres nothing out rn

[tough hull]

So the thing that’s important is pixel pitch

[grizzled nebula]

[glossy sage]

I can stuff more bigger pixels on a ff than a crop

And sensors loved being stuffed with big things

[tough hull]

Well for that yeah

But that’s basically pixel pitch

[glossy sage]

So the size of the sensor does matter

[tough hull]

If you want many MP with a lot of light you get a big sensor

[tough hull]

Depends if you want the resolution

[glossy sage]

More bigger pixels, more electrons, higher dynamic range

[dark ermine]

it sounds like whatever you're using to edit has a learning curve

[tough hull]

Uh

WRONG

ITS PHOTONS

LEARN PHYSICS

lmao

[dark ermine]

id just try a free trial of lightroom at this point

[glossy sage]

I dont make the math the math makes me

[tough hull]

Lmao

Fair point

I will remember that

[dark ermine]

it's not a great photo but if you're just trying to learn how to edit, use software that holds your hand more

[tough hull]

He don’t have money for expensive ah Lightroom

Like me

[dark ermine]

that's why I said free trial

[tough hull]

Where lol

[glossy sage]

Time to open some local lemonade stands

[dark ermine]

https://www.adobe.com/creativecloud/photography/compare-plans.html

[tough hull]

I gotta get perms and every shit for that

[tough hull]

Nah it’s more expensive in Germany

[undone slate]

maybe now?

[glossy sage]

Oh you're in Germany? Hah get wrecked

Everything is more expensive except bread

[tough hull]

Actually new camera gear is much cheaper than in any of Europe

[dark ermine]

free trial is more expensive in germany?

[tough hull]

No

Wait yes

It costs 1000% more

And what’s 1000% of 0€?

Free trial is short though

[dark ermine]

😂 I meant cancel before charged so rock can at least practice editing for a min using easy pz steps

[tough hull]

Yeah still it’s once

I need to get a star tracker man

And then I can finally afford Adobe

[glossy sage]

Its pretty cheap for hobbyists

If you're a teenager in the hobby though I guess its can be rather expensive. Also having a camera as a teen, living my old dream

[tacit gazelle]

YES ill spend over 700 on my camera

NO i will not pay 11 dollars for lightroom

[tough hull]

Well I mean I started saving at 11y and got the camera at 14 and got a minijob to afford that

[dark ermine]

I was just talking about this, my first camera was like age 19 with a nikon d90. love that people are getting started earlier with better gear

[glossy sage]

I uh started at 24 👴

[tacit gazelle]

i got a t5 in early feb

and then sold and bought m50 basically right after

[tough hull]

Nice

[tacit gazelle]

so im sitll relatively new

[tough hull]

I have like one of the most modern cameras in my photography club lol

And I’m one of two under 18 kids lmao

[dark ermine]

sounds like we are part of the bird elders club

[undone slate]

wdym by learning curve?

[tacit gazelle]

take time to learn

[undone slate]

oh, ok.

[glossy sage]

Maybe. Except 24 was only 2 years ago

[tough hull]

Bruh

I’m younger than you and been doing photography longer lmao

I only started to edit and actually use manual 2 years ago though

[glossy sage]

Nice! I wish I had a creative outlet when I was younger

[tough hull]

Before it was more of a yeah imma use my camera and take photos

[tacit gazelle]

luckily i researched before buying my cameras so i knew not to use auto

and learned exposure triangle instead

[glossy sage]

I just press buttons until things look nice

I am a button masher at heart

[tough hull]

I used my D3100 for like a year or two until I started to shoot more manual but I still don’t know how to set it on this camera so I mostly shoot aperture or shutter priority

[tacit gazelle]

[tough hull]

Nah that cam is weird

[glossy sage]

Both my custom shooting modes are set to manual one is preset for birbs and one I preset for panning. Works nicely

[tough hull]

Nice

[tacit gazelle]

youtube

[glossy sage]

I hardly go lower than 1/4000 for birds since sunlight is so strong here it doesn't matter

[tough hull]

Me always at 1/2000

[tacit gazelle]

lucky

[tough hull]

lol

[tacit gazelle]

i am at 1/400 or 1/500

heh

[glossy sage]

Thats extremely slow for birbs

Their feathers like to move a lot

[tacit gazelle]

yeah but they're mostly stationary

and my autofocus is too shit for flying birds

[tough hull]

I got away with Sgutter priority mostly

[glossy sage]

I feel that

[tacit gazelle]

[glossy sage]

R8 -> EF adapter -> Old tamron lens not really utilizing the full AF capability of the R8

[dark ermine]

yh like you don't want to be both learning how the software does editing AND learning the fundamentals of editing at the same time

i mean you can, but it will slow down your learning

[undone slate]

yep

[dark ermine]

atp i think im gonna do a hy gallery submission with birds refusing to face my direction

[undone slate]

idk if it's good now

[glossy sage]

Have u tried pspspsps like a cat call

[tender galleon]

weird glow on brrd

[tender galleon]

taking 3 years to denoise

"estimated time 1min" bullshit

[tender galleon]

they gonna leave

[tender galleon]

yeah it was shit

gonna go hunt the owl this evening

wish me luck

[tough hull]

Shoot them

Get close and shoot them with the 9mm

[tender galleon]

idk if 250mm enough

i wish i had mony for the 100-400mm L II

[dark ermine]

😂 No I will try that with the next catbird I see

[undone slate]

I know, but I don't know how to remove that.

[tender galleon]

just get another image atp

[undone slate]

?

[tender galleon]

take new pic

[naive fiber]

@gilded yarrow what lens do you use?

just wondering

[remote remnant]

200-600

[naive fiber]

oh ok

thanks

[gilded yarrow]

Exactly

[undone slate]

Should I then discard that photo?

[naive fiber]

Most likely

It isn't that interesting tbh

[naive fiber]

just make a new account every 7 days

perfect

[grizzled nebula]

Ffs just missed a woodpecker

[glossy sage]

Pecker? I hardly know her!

[grizzled nebula]

I think my adapter is faulty

Its really pissing me off

Missed it the second time cause the adaptor lost electronic connection with the lens

And it just did it again ffs

Really pissing me off now

Gonna ask to get it replaced

4 opportunities 3 missed cause of this shit

[undone slate]

How is it possible that almost everywhere you go you'll find "rare" birds or birds that aren't very common?

[glossy sage]

Take some isopropyl alcohol and a cotton pad and rub the connectors down first

I had this happen with a lens and it was luckily just some dirt on the connector

[tender galleon]

havent seen the owl

been out here for 1 hour

[glossy sage]

owl rare

[tender galleon]

i saw yesterday

and last week

but i got ass photos

i want better

[glossy sage]

Welcome to wildlife photography!

[tender galleon]

yeah

its a short-eared owl so it flies in the daytime too, i've mostly seen it when the sun is setting

prolly gonna go inside now im tired

[glossy sage]

Start bringing rats and offer them as a sacrifice

[grizzled nebula]

A woodpecker just got attacked by a pigeon bruh

[tender galleon]

where do i get rats

[grizzled nebula]

It did that from the first day..

[glossy sage]

Pet store

[tender galleon]

oh right

idk if it will find tho

[undone slate]

How is it possible that those birds come to a feeder? Do you think a woodpecker could come to me with black sunflower seeds?

[glossy sage]

My guess is they flew

[tender galleon]

my guess is that they saw the feeder and wanted food 🤔

[glossy sage]

Ah true that too

[undone slate]

But I live next to the forest and I've seen one once, but it doesn't come to my house often enough to go to a feeding station, which is something new.

[grizzled nebula]

well i'm pissed off but alteast ik i can get a woodpecker there pretty much everyday

[undone slate]

I'm getting confused

[grizzled nebula]

woodpeckers are very common

[undone slate]

[undone slate]

I've only seen it once.

😭

[grizzled nebula]

you haven't looked enough

i had never seen one until 2 or 3 months ago

now that i know their habitat i keep finding them

[undone slate]

But do you think black sunflower seeds could attract those birds?

[grizzled nebula]

idk

[undone slate]

but where do i search?

[grizzled nebula]

search in an area with dead trees

[grizzled nebula]

trees like this

[undone slate]

How is it possible that there are woodpeckers in the city?

[undone slate]

oh, ok

[grizzled nebula]

they'll usually not be in the open like this ofc but still this kind of tree

[undone slate]

I don't know if I have them nearby.

[grizzled nebula]

must have some dead trees

[grizzled nebula]

any dead tree will do bro

and i'm sure u have these

[grizzled nebula]

also look on ebird

[undone slate]

I mean, I saw one of them near my house, so there must be some, but I don't know if I could attract them.
Besides, I saw that they're in cities too, so I don't know.

[naive fiber]

they dont usually land without a virtical stick to land on

afaik

woodpeckers are common

but they are hard to see

you hear them a lot

[glossy sage]

ok

Do some research and figure out what works best for your area 🤷‍♂️
We really can't be holding your hand through the same questions every day. At some point you're going to have to learn how to research stuff

[tough hull]

They will block me from free trials

[undone slate]

I suppose black sunflower seeds will work well for me

[glossy sage]

!backshots

[undone slate]

I'm already investigating.

whatt

[naive fiber]

I got 2 free trials on the same acc for some reason

I mean

[tough hull]

!culo

[primal lake]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/728905379274162180/1334801341134143530/9k.png

[undone slate]

☠️

[tough hull]

Nah what I mean is doing it often

My friends whole area where he lives got blocked temporarily from requesting trials because he did it too much

[naive fiber]

virtual card or something

idek how the area thing works

how do they know is it from the card address

[tough hull]

Idk exactly what happened but apparently he cannot request it from his home anymore, not even with a different router and pc

[naive fiber]

even vpn?

like say set it to cuba or something

[tough hull]

Idk I haven’t asked him bout that

[naive fiber]

hmm

adobe is funny like that though

[tough hull]

Not only Adobe

Also pixinsight

[glossy sage]

what is this

[grizzled nebula]

The flamingo's leg

[naive fiber]

oh ok

[glossy sage]

I swear u must live in an aviary lol

[grizzled nebula]

nah, this was in camargue

these pics are over 2 weeks old now

so much to edit tho

[glossy sage]

I feel ya

[grizzled nebula]

bro is enjoying it a lot

[glossy sage]

freaky and waterboarding

[grizzled nebula]

literally drowning her lmao

[tough hull]

Brother when I was fishing two weeks ago two ducks got freaky and it looked more than drowning than getting freaked

He literally bit her feathers on the back of her head and put her head underwater

[glossy sage]

Thats my kinda style mhm

[tough hull]

I also got pics lol

Why did you delete message link lol

@glossy sage the duck is behind a plant as we can see and there’s a reflection which I don’t like, next time use a CPL

[glossy sage]

Didn't mean to send it

[tough hull]

lol

[glossy sage]

The duck isn't behind a plant, I'm sitting a foot in front of the duck? And reflections r epic cope

[tough hull]

Well technically it is lol

[glossy sage]

Thats a seed