Bird Photography

[gleaming tree]

I need help with ID I was told it could be a Prothonotary Warbler but it looks too orange?

[grizzled nebula]

idk?

idk where u live

[green canyon]

unlikely

[tough hull]

Where do you live?

[undone slate]

why

[undone slate]

spain

galicia

[gleaming tree]

Location Tennessee

[spring vault]

I think they get extra orange sometimes

[undone slate]

this part of spain

[green canyon]

wait are you talking about long tailed tits

[tough hull]

Idk then

[undone slate]

no no

epupa epops

[grizzled nebula]

you should be able to

[green canyon]

oh
idk sorry

[undone slate]

but where do i search?

[spring vault]

I love warblers

[grizzled nebula]

there's loads of long tailed tits in spain too..

[naive fiber]

Kinda?

You still have a different colour

[green canyon]

yes but i dont think theyre going to hang around in gardens
atleast that has been my experience

[tough hull]

Gn everyone

[grizzled nebula]

well according to ebird they're everywhere

[grizzled nebula]

gn

[gleaming tree]

Lifer northern mocking bird

[naive fiber]

I love these things

Probably the cutest bird here

[naive fiber]

I see them more in forests and golf courses

[naive fiber]

Ebird/Merlin bird id

[grizzled nebula]

https://ebird.org/map/hoopoe?neg=true&env.minX=-8.45907671935451&env.minY=43.310267489909585&env.maxX=-8.362517194818377&env.maxY=43.34451423181837&zh=true&gp=false&ev=Z&excludeExX=false&excludeExAll=false&mr=1-12&bmo=1&emo=12&yr=all&byr=1900&eyr=2026

[naive fiber]

Has anyone got a nice azure kingfisher photo?

They seem so cool

[grizzled nebula]

i wish i lived in australia

[green canyon]

i would love to go to australia, they have so many cool and unique species
sometimes too many (spiders)

[naive fiber]

I would as well

Living not so much

[grizzled nebula]

i am terrified of spiders

[naive fiber]

Azure tit seems like a cool bird as well

[grizzled nebula]

knowing there's a spider season scares me even more

[undone slate]

i've never seen one before.

[undone slate]

?

[green canyon]

i think id rather go to new zealand

[naive fiber]

The people will look different

[shut hazel]

same

i remember my friend once caught like a wolf spider

[naive fiber]

How do you take photos of super long tailed birds whilst still looking good

[shut hazel]

but he was terrified to kill it

so dawg deadahh just blew it up

[green canyon]

same thing but way less spiders and no real dangerous ones

[naive fiber]

Like the African paradise flycatcher

Catchy name I know

[grizzled nebula]

this is what bokeh can do

you can barely see the flamingos behind

[green canyon]

i forgot to give feedback, this one is really beautiful

[green canyon]

https://klipy.com/gifs/pukekolawg

[undone slate]

yep, i know

[undone slate]

💀

[green canyon]

jule has arrived

[magic crown]

let me cook now

[naive fiber]

It's a pretty colour as well bokeh wise

[magic crown]

holy stare

[green canyon]

damn

how do i go about finding owls?

any really

[naive fiber]

Visit a barn

Or something

Do owls just like disappear where do they go

[magic crown]

and have an holy luck

[green canyon]

what are some common ones in central europe

[magic crown]

tawny owl

one of the hardest to see btw

but maybe you also have barn owls and little owls too

[naive fiber]

Barn yeah they have

[magic crown]

Hibiki is such a cute Barn owl in the falconry

[green canyon]

seems like there are a bunch of tawny owls in my area

barn owls rather little but they exist

[magic crown]

tawny owl in eu is really common the hardest part is to see them

they are very scared to humans (except for city ones)

[green canyon]

probably also less active during the day right

[magic crown]

yeah they are mostly night and sunset birds

[glossy sage]

How did u get it in box

[shut hazel]

Deftones bird

[naive fiber]

Aw

[magic crown]

it's it nest

[glossy sage]

You shoved its nest in a box

[magic crown]

it's a conservation natural reserve

so they put some of them in the reserve to help them

[naive fiber]

Why on earth is there a bird at my feeder at midnight

[tacit gazelle]

When you're hungry you're hungry

[hidden wyvern]

regular duck and a sphere

[half yacht]

Wah

I can see yoyr house in the eye reflection

[green canyon]

Im actually getting trolled

Every single morning until afternoon its sunny, which is when i dont have time
And right when im done it starts to rain

[tough hull]

lol

[green canyon]

This has been happening for the past week

[tough hull]

Btw

Is it just me or is the Ca stronger the more resolution you get?

Like on apsc it’s already zoomed in and I feel like on apsc shots with the 200-600 there’s more Ca than on full frame

[naive fiber]

You can indeed

I did some nr on the eye so it won’t look as crisp as the raw

[grizzled nebula]

Un edited

[grizzled nebula]

Cant wait to edit them

[tender galleon]

what kinda swan is that

[tough hull]

Black

Black swan

[tender galleon]

very cool

[tough hull]

That’s the name

[tough hull]

Ye

They originated from Australia I think

[tender galleon]

i dont think we have those here in finland 😭

[tough hull]

They don’t live in Europe naturally

So they are pretty rare

[tender galleon]

ohh

[tough hull]

I have never seen one

What I did see though was a flamingo at the Danube 💀

It’s been a couple of years but that was still crazy

[grizzled nebula]

This one was in france

But yh theyre mostly escapees

[tough hull]

I know

[grizzled nebula]

So theres probs less than a hundred in france

[tough hull]

On the illegal property?

[grizzled nebula]

No this is in a natural reserve

[tough hull]

Ok

[grizzled nebula]

Well i saw it in the lake next to it

[tough hull]

Or private idk

[tough hull]

K

[grizzled nebula]

Not private

Got really close

[tough hull]

You did talk about a swan at a property where you couldn’t get easily

[tough hull]

Bro

Lmao

[grizzled nebula]

Yh thats another place

Just a slight difference between the phone and cam pics

[tender galleon]

cute birdi

[charred holly]

In nomine avis, amen

[magic crown]

The holy dove

[tough hull]

Yeah because you use your phones camera app

This is with Lightroom cam

On phone

Light was shit and the duck was running around

[green canyon]

yeah you see the finer imperfections of the lens

[tough hull]

K

[tender galleon]

pigeon 👍 👍

[tough hull]

Cuz I saw a lot of blue fringing in your duck shot

Thank god I’m full frame

[charred holly]

Went hiking here yesterday, expecting tons of birds

Pretty much the only noteworthy bird I saw was this dove

[tough hull]

Sad

[charred holly]

Yup

Looked like a prime spot

[grizzled nebula]

Have u seen the black swan pics 👀

Put the lens as close to the water as possible like you do for ur duck photos

[magic crown]

Yeah it can be frustrating

[magic crown]

Yeah i saw nice pic but the light is kinda strong

[fluid onyx]

https://tenor.com/view/doctor-pigeon-walk-doctor-pigeon-pigeon-walk-gif-18363920270242659686

[grizzled nebula]

Easy to fix when edited

I just got home rn

Got some dark background shots too so hopefully gonna get some nice portraits

[tender galleon]

🔥

[green canyon]

where

[undone slate]

where was that?

[grizzled nebula]

etangs de villepey in frejus

france

[undone slate]

Is it just me, or were you really, really close?

[undone slate]

How far away was it?

[undone slate]

Why didn't the goose attack you?

that's pretty close

[grizzled nebula]

some photos were 5m away some 0.8-0.9m away

[grizzled nebula]

it's a swan and it's probably used to humans

[magic crown]

Crazy i have starlings nesting in my garden tree

[grizzled nebula]

"three"

[magic crown]

[tough hull]

@grizzled nebula

Gonna take pics of some geese chicks

Or whatever to call the babies

[green canyon]

oh i didnt notice that

[tough hull]

I did lol

[green canyon]

ill remove it

[grizzled nebula]

nice

[tough hull]

I’m a pixel peep

Lmao

[green canyon]

the ducks were in really harsh sunlight

[tough hull]

I just looked to my left and there were ostriches

Lmao

[green canyon]

very nice

[grizzled nebula]

ngl i need to brighten the body a bit more

[green canyon]

i would put more emphasis on the reflection

especially the head

[undone slate]

Well, if it's a swan, I don't know, I've never been that close to one, but with geese it's usually worse. One almost attacked me, and I was in an area meant for watching them; there were other people there.

[grizzled nebula]

geese are a lot more agressive

[undone slate]

yep

And one question: does eBird usually work well for you?

for tracking birds

[green canyon]

yes

[grizzled nebula]

yes

re edit

[tough hull]

Saw my first terns of the year and bc I started birding only this year it means a new lifer

[tough hull]

Holy geez

[undone slate]

So, if you search for a bird on eBird and you go to that place, do you usually find it?

[green canyon]

depends on the bird

[undone slate]

idk, hoopoe

[green canyon]

which bird do you want to see

[undone slate]

hoopoe

[green canyon]

oh ok

right that was the name

[magic crown]

got the belly

it's nesting in the tree that so cool

[undone slate]

yes

[naive fiber]

Those last 3

[tough hull]

Bruh

I accidentally walked into I think a nude beach with my telephoto

Bruh

There are no signs anywhere

[charred holly]

Duck pictures with one letter off...

[tough hull]

It’s nude beach not sex beach

[tender galleon]

birdie and squirrel

[tough hull]

I tried it out today

My conclusion was that birds infront of an even (so not trees, more like still water, th sky or pavement) background wide focus area is best, but for everything in like forest between sticks center is the best

[dusty fog]

these photos aren't great just because of the pose and stuff, but wow
blue jays have such insane feathers man

[glossy sage]

Swans are scary. Mean as hell

[tough hull]

lol

[glossy sage]

They hiss like cats at u before pecking ur eyes out 💀

[tough hull]

Did they attack you lmao

[glossy sage]

I usually leave if they hiss at me before it gets to that point

[tough hull]

I went like right next to their babies because they were on the street and they hissed at me but nothing else

[stable mantle]

my dog got bitten by one the other day. didn't stop him trying to be friends with it 🤣

[glossy sage]

I took a couple swan photo yesterday

I have over 6,000 photos to cull right now though so I probably won't even touch them for like a year

if I even end up deciding to keep any

[shut hazel]

were you just holding the shutter lol

[grizzled nebula]

saw my first back swan today

[shut hazel]

may aswell make a stop motion film with these lol

[grizzled nebula]

i don't count the real fist time cause it was so far away

[grizzled nebula]

i suggest trying to hold the camera literally as close to the water as possible cause it gives these kinds of results

[glossy sage]

The ledge of the lake wasn't very flush with the water

this is probably the closest to the water I got

[glossy sage]

do you not

[shut hazel]

not that much

[glossy sage]

Unfortunate

Can get some pretty cool shots taking some photos of moving birbs

[grizzled nebula]

this is an example of waves making something nice

[glossy sage]

They are really common near me so much so I prefer seeing the white ones

[grizzled nebula]

if u get really close to the water even with waves it'll look nice

i had my 600 touching the water pretty much today

[glossy sage]

It just wasn't happening with the lake's edge

or rather I wasn't dressed for being in mud and potentially going in

[grizzled nebula]

don't need to go in

[glossy sage]

I agree it looks better

[grizzled nebula]

i hang the lens over the bank

[glossy sage]

But the drop off from the ledge of the lake -> water was about 1 meter on soft mud

[grizzled nebula]

1m is big

[glossy sage]

quite large

[grizzled nebula]

👀

[glossy sage]

I do not have 1m arm reach either I'm not basketball player tall unfortunately

I don't really have a better photo for representation except in the bokeh of this photo you can see the distance between lake ledge and water

[grizzled nebula]

that's nothing

that's basically the same as what i had to deal with today

[glossy sage]

its about 1 meter, or 3ft in my units. I'm good I do not regret trying to hang over it its all soft mud

[grizzled nebula]

(couldn't shoot from there cause of the log)

had to go on a small bridge to get the pics

rate /10

[glossy sage]

The swan stole ur camera and took a selfie

[grizzled nebula]

it did try to steal it btw 😭

[glossy sage]

Swan r mean

[grizzled nebula]

eh this one was cute tbf

[glossy sage]

If I had pre-capture I wouldn't take so many then I wouldn't have to plan for missing moments

But my pre-capture, "raw burst" is awful

[stable mantle]

Just shoot in bursts when you feel something interesting is going to happen 😁

[glossy sage]

Thats what I do now

Proactive shooting > pre-capture

Man I hate the pre capture system

[dark ermine]

gnatcatcher from today - love that angry eyebrow of theirs

[unborn frost]

Anyone tried pods for getting low to the ground?

[fast knoll]

have u heard of the frying pan method

[left brook]

how tf u hold a 600/4 like that

[tender galleon]

there been a lot of different birbs on feeder in the past week

a crow, a blackbird, great tits, bluetits, little sparrows, yellowhammers, a squirrel and now 2 bunnies

kinda crazy because the feeder is like 3m from the house window

[undone slate]

Wouldn't it be better if they put the names of the animals on #🦀・creatures ?

[undone slate]

But then how do you see the camera screen?

What if your camera gets wet or you drop it?

[undone slate]

I think it's not focused correctly.

[dreamy tinsel]

skill issue

no pain no gain

[dreamy tinsel]

in me local park there is a little bump down to water level (idk how to explain it) so i cant really get a water level shot unless i put the cam really down but then i cant see anything

[grizzled nebula]

By the lens foot

[grizzled nebula]

I use the tilting screen and Ik how to hold my camera so it won’t get wet Dw

[grizzled nebula]

No tilt screen 🤣 🫵

[green canyon]

how low to the water did you go here

[dreamy tinsel]

even if i had a tilt screen the af is so bad it wouldn’t be usable

[grizzled nebula]

i basically had the lens on the water

maybe 5mm above

[green canyon]

damn

[tough hull]

Need still water for that

[tender galleon]

those who know

[grizzled nebula]

not really

[tough hull]

If you got 5cm waves it’s shit

No reflection at all

[grizzled nebula]

eh

waves can be nice

[tender galleon]

if they coming straight at you they block the subject

if you are low

[dreamy tinsel]

do i drag half my family out of bed early just so i can catch the sunrise and bird before school?

[undone slate]

ohh ok

[tender galleon]

yes 100%

[tough hull]

Yes

I almost went out at 3am to photograph a comet

But then I was like no thanks weather is actually bad

[dreamy tinsel]

supposed to be sunny the whole day and no wind in the morning

[tough hull]

Nice

[tender galleon]

W

[grizzled nebula]

went out for nothing

[tender galleon]

finally unlocked galleries

[magic crown]

I'm setting my bike for a 4-day road trip.
I hope i'll see some good birds

[grizzled nebula]

https://tenor.com/view/français-french-france-euh-chuis-français-le-petit-journal-gif-11235038

[magic crown]

bro stop that's just annoying now

[grizzled nebula]

[magic crown]

ik i have a bad english sometimes but it's not that easy

[grizzled nebula]

ik it's not easy i'm just being silly

sorry

[magic crown]

especially when you are dys

[grizzled nebula]

didn't mean to be rude

[magic crown]

it's okay one time or two but multiple times it's okay i get it

[magic crown]

ik you don't want to but it's fustrating getting those types of comments multiples times

[tough hull]

multiples times 🥖 🥖🥖💀

Ok jk

I make so many mistakes lmao

Worst is when my German accent slips out

[dreamy tinsel]

Brot und Käse ahh

[tough hull]

Nah that’s not my problem

It’s just when I’m talking to fast my th becomes ze sometimes

Ze birds are very beautiful type shi

[dreamy tinsel]

my problem is not knowing german (i have it as a 3rd language in school)

[tough hull]

Wait what’s your native language?

[dreamy tinsel]

czech

[tough hull]

Ohh

We have friends in Czech lol

So is Czech included in the three?

[dreamy tinsel]

ye

czech english and german

[tough hull]

K then I also have three

Latin 💀

[dreamy tinsel]

fuh nah

😭

[tough hull]

I was 4th grade switching to secondary school next year and was like: oh damn Latin sounds good, let’s have it as my first language because I can already speak English

[tough hull]

🔥

[grizzled nebula]

mid pics

i over exposed

[dreamy tinsel]

at least you saw an owl ig 😭

[grizzled nebula]

don't even know why i sent them

[grizzled nebula]

not wild

[dreamy tinsel]

better than nothing

[tough hull]

True

Kinda makes it look cool though

[grizzled nebula]

meh

tbh i don't like most of my pics

[tough hull]

Same

[grizzled nebula]

and until i get my licence (soon hopefully) i won't really be able to get anything good

cause i have nothing close to me that's really good or accessible by bus/bike

[tough hull]

At least you’re not where I am lmao

[grizzled nebula]

hmm i'd probably rather be where u are

[tough hull]

You literally have more birds than I have

[grizzled nebula]

i have to drive 3h or take the bus/train on a 7h journey to see all these birds

[tough hull]

Still

For me it’s way longer

[grizzled nebula]

i don't even have a lake anywhere near me

[tough hull]

I have a river but it kinda sucks

[grizzled nebula]

i have a river that i've never seen a bird on

[tough hull]

It’s big but not accessible

Here in my forest there’s nothing to see at all lmao

Just things like robins and jays

Woodpeckers yeah

[grizzled nebula]

the only little lake i have near me i'm not even allowed to access

[tough hull]

Bruh

But how far away is it

The river with lots of birds is 23-40km away

[grizzled nebula]

2 mins away by bike

[tough hull]

The two best spots are either 23km or 40km

[tough hull]

Nothing lmao

[grizzled nebula]

but since i'm not allowed in the proprety it's useless

[tough hull]

Yeah

And the other river?

[grizzled nebula]

in that lake btw

[grizzled nebula]

15 mins by car, about an 1h by bike

[tough hull]

Same

[tough hull]

But why aren’t you allowed to acces?

[grizzled nebula]

cause it's a private domain

[tough hull]

Then why the heck does it have a google?

[grizzled nebula]

i'd need to get a room in one of the hotels there

[tough hull]

Oh

K

Understood

[grizzled nebula]

mid river

[tough hull]

This shit is my closest kingfisher spot and has exactly one kingfisher at a time

[tough hull]

I waited 4h last year to get the kingfisher only slightly close

[grizzled nebula]

i had a spot where i could see a kingfisher super easily

but not it's gone

[tough hull]

Not enough for my 300mm

[grizzled nebula]

(the kingfisher)

[tough hull]

Why

[grizzled nebula]

idk

i just haven't seen him in 3 months

[tough hull]

Here idk I can only find my crappy edit rn, don’t know where my other one went

[tough hull]

Mine was fully gone in winter because all the water was blocked by ducks

All the open water

Because 80% of the lake was frozen

[grizzled nebula]

when i saw mine was in the winter lol

[tough hull]

Why the red markings btw?

[tough hull]

Was the river frozen?

[grizzled nebula]

cause it's 2 mins from my house

so i don't want anyone to find it

[tough hull]

I found it lmao

[grizzled nebula]

[grizzled nebula]

nope

[tough hull]

lol

This the lake you go to?

The big one?

[grizzled nebula]

no

[grizzled nebula]

that's a dam

[tough hull]

My river is full of dams lol

K

Brother this is scary

You could find my exact home so fast with eBird lmao

[grizzled nebula]

wait ik where i need to go for ducks

there's insane potential there with the ducks

Last time i went there

this was a few years ago

and this was taken with my phone

[tough hull]

What are these

They look like coot

[grizzled nebula]

can't remember but probs that

but there's little greebes there too

[dreamy tinsel]

fire debut bro

[tender galleon]

tysm

[dark ermine]

i'm thinking about renting the Nikon Z 600mm f/6.3 VR S to test it out but worried a prime will be too restrictive for locating birbs in the forest

but if not that then think the only non-prime step up from sigma 150-600mm c would be the 180-600mm, though maybe only marginally

if anyone has any thoughts, otherwise may take it to the gear discussion room

[naive fiber]

locating?

I would probably use a dot scope

or like seeing birds you cant see with your eye

[dark ermine]

yeah locating, I have trouble with it now tbh lol. see it fine with my naked eye but finding / lining up the lens for smaller warblers and such through the viewfinder is tricky.

[naive fiber]

yeah I see

dot scope probably would be good for this maybe

[dark ermine]

I hadn't even considered that, i will check it out ty

[naive fiber]

red dot sight sorry

[dark ermine]

like this guy?
https://www.nikonusa.com/p/df-m1-dot-sight/25953?srsltid=AfmBOookMn-Xjb6Lwg0hmJQG9ZXLDN4PLjYbHoRXiot5eDz6dg8QFrEY

[naive fiber]

yeah

ttartisan do a good cheaper one apparently

[undone slate]

my second language is english

[undone slate]

idk how you find them so easily

[green canyon]

i think i got a cool shot of some coots fighting today

[sharp ether]

I want to squish the white bulging part of their head one day

[tough hull]

I hate coots tbh

They look weird

Grebes are cooler

Still gotta edit this

Apple preview looks shit tbh

Red crested pochard

Lifer btw

[tacit gazelle]

Dude this birf is ugly

[tough hull]

I wish I could see those

It’s a heron idk some night crowned type shit or idk

They look like gay herons with a cut off neck

[dreamy tinsel]

what did he do to you 😭

[tacit gazelle]

Yup

[tacit gazelle]

It's a seagull larper wanna be

Dude I'm crying it's actually so ugly

[tough hull]

They look cool

[dusty fog]

that's a heron no?

[tough hull]

Read the chat

[dusty fog]

he can extend the neck tho right?

[tough hull]

I don’t think so

[tacit gazelle]

Disappointment of a heron

[tough hull]

Ok yeah a tiny bit

[tough hull]

I think normal herons look ugly

Like gray ones

The night crowned have such smooth looking feathers

[tacit gazelle]

Goddamn it zoomed too far in, but I also don't like how that thing flies

[sharp ether]

I wouldn't call any heron ugly

They all look good-looking to me

[tacit gazelle]

This looks like my uncle

Idk how to describe it

[sharp ether]

Black-crowned Night heron looks quite beautiful

It looks stylish

[grizzled nebula]

shit image but first purple heron i've seen

[glossy sage]

1/640 super low for birbs

[grizzled nebula]

depends on the bird tbh

but for herons you do usually want a bit more than that

this purple heron was shot at 1/1600 but it still has motion blur lol

[glossy sage]

Even wind ruffling a feather of a sitting birb at 1/640 can blur the feather

Just go as high as you can that doesn't destroy ur ISO

[grizzled nebula]

nahhhh i need to take the boat to that island RN

european roller there today

maybe tomorrow if i find the time

[fast knoll]

some in flights from today

[left brook]

dayummm

[shut hazel]

if anyone wants that lego kingfisher set as a shrine to attract kingfishers to you

get it before it retires this july

[tender galleon]

woah 18 upvotes on my first gallery image

[left brook]

deadass?

[shut hazel]

Yes

LEGO 10331 Kingfisher | BrickEconomy https://share.google/vQdESUQ5DkeYjXC01

[left brook]

ah whatever bro

[left brook]

what other birds does lego have

bigger models?

[shut hazel]

I dunno if lego has anything bigger

[naive fiber]

Deserved

[green canyon]

bluebrixx does

[gilded yarrow]

bluebrixx has like every single bird lmao

I wanna get their peregrine

[stable mantle]

BRANCHES! still cute though ❤️

[bitter trench]

A few brown eared bulbuls in the sakura

[dusty fog]

sick

[bitter trench]

Assorted others

[naive fiber]

Could be good with a nice edit

[bitter trench]

Yeah, I only did light editing to get the colours out but want to work on them again at some point

[naive fiber]

You also can send the raws in https://discord.com/channels/728905379274162177/1478202337804685372

[dark ermine]

when sky daddy calls you home

[green canyon]

when is the best time for kingfishers

[naive fiber]

I think sep-dec

[undone slate]

Apple is very good

[undone slate]

now

well no

in autumn-winter

[naive fiber]

Omg what is this lmao

[green canyon]

its a bit different where i live

they start getting more active around june already

[naive fiber]

I guess they migrate

[green canyon]

year round here

[naive fiber]

Maybe a temperature thing?

[green canyon]

probably

im a bit more south

[naive fiber]

Hmm

No that doesn't work

Oh they die from floods in the summer and they freeze to death in the winter

That's nice

[tough hull]

Mid. All phones are mid.

[tough hull]

Depends what your surroundings look like

[tough hull]

This is your specific chances

For me winter is shit since the lake where I have them in summer freezes 70-80% and then the roundabout 40-90 ducks that are there all get concentrated in the little free spot so no place for kingfishers. They go to a little creek and can be anywhere along the creek.

[green canyon]

theyre at a river where i live

i dont think it freezes

not many other animals either

[naive fiber]

They are at a birdwatching wetland park here

[undone slate]

That bird is beautiful

[undone slate]

How do you find so many varieties of birds, like the hoopoe?

[grizzled nebula]

it's a common birds in europe

i don't see much where i live

[tough hull]

Not much is crazy

Hold up how many tit species you got there?

[grizzled nebula]

but if i go to places like frejus (30 mins away by car) hyeres (50mins to 1h by car) or camargue (3 hours by car ) i get loads of species

camargue has over 450 species iirc

[grizzled nebula]

blue tit, long tailed tit, great tit and all the super common ones

in camargue there's probably a few more

[tough hull]

Well all I got here is long tailed tit, coal-, blue-, great-, and marsh tit

[grizzled nebula]

driving exam tomorrow

(not actual driving but theory)

i've never seen a coal tit or marsh tit

[tough hull]

K

Apparently there’s also crested and Willow but I have never knowingly seen them

I NEED TO GO TO RUSSIA

I just read about azure tit

[green canyon]

woah

[bitter trench]

There are so many cormorants and lesser egrets here

[bitter trench]

Thats cool ash

[tough hull]

(._.)

[bitter trench]

Rip, I'm not travelling anywhere near there :(

[naive fiber]

Oh yeah these things are in china right

Some have yellow bellies

There are lots of wrens near me

[bitter trench]

Oh I'm heading to china in August

May see if any are near me

[naive fiber]

I really want to take a photo of an African paradise flycatcher

I have been rambling on about them

But they are SO COOL

[bitter trench]

Im out here struggling to get a common kingfisher

[naive fiber]

SEE

[tough hull]

Barely

[tough hull]

I think males in breeding time

[naive fiber]

Cute bird though

[tough hull]

Not rn for me but in the future if no ww3

[naive fiber]

I was researching the azure kingfisher and found it

[tough hull]

Look where you are on the map

[bitter trench]

Nowhere near that lmao

Going to shanghai

[undone slate]

Yeah, but I've only seen it once.

[bitter trench]

Might try and get a day or 2 of bird photography in if I can. Only staying 5-7 days, havent decided

[undone slate]

And I just saw that there are about 10 sparrows next to my house where there's a small roof where they perch when it rains and normally...
Why don't they come to my house to the feeder if they know there's food there? (I think they already went to the feeder)

[magic crown]

https://tenor.com/view/ascension-sponge-bob-gif-15077046

[naive fiber]

What kind of bokeh is that lmfao

[bitter trench]

Heavily cropped

Thats the original zoom.

[naive fiber]

Oof that's a big crop

[tough hull]

Big? Nah

[naive fiber]

That looks like 200% no

[tough hull]

Alright mine is just a tiny bit more

That’s the closest I have ever gotten to a kingfisher

[tacit gazelle]

Privacy given

[bitter trench]

Your camera is a little better than mine

[tough hull]

I wouldn’t say better

Mine is also more expensive

[bitter trench]

I would hope its better if its about 4x the price for the body

[bitter trench]

I use the fuji xt30-iii

[tough hull]

Which you have 600mm, this was 300mm what I showed

[green canyon]

aarvs was also super lucky

[tough hull]

True

[grizzled nebula]

That was 500mm actually

[tough hull]

Still

Tiny difference

[grizzled nebula]

not much more expensive than his camera

[green canyon]

@magic crown what camo equipment would you recommend for birds in general but especially kingfishers

[grizzled nebula]

not that big tbh

small diff

[tough hull]

As I said tiny

[magic crown]

a net do the job at start but a tiny hide bag is mostly the best

[tough hull]

If I go on my 200-600 on 500 and zoom to 600 there’s like no difference

[tough hull]

Get a full ghillie suit from your cool uncle

[green canyon]

thats because the 200-600 doesnt actually zoom perfectly to 600mm

its something like 550

maybe a bit more

[tough hull]

True

[tough hull]

570

Apparently

[bitter trench]

If I'm using my 70-300, is it better to 200mm and crop or just go to 300

[grizzled nebula]

man i really wish i had the 600

when i got the pics

[tough hull]

300

wtf

[grizzled nebula]

probs would've been too close anyway

[bitter trench]

Ive heard some lenses go blurry if you go to the end. Im new to this idk

[tough hull]

Does yours?

[green canyon]

this is true but it doesnt make it worse than cropping

[bitter trench]

I haven't had a chance to check

[green canyon]

however, if you think the shot looks just as good at 200mm, you might want to consider it

[grizzled nebula]

if it was the 75-300 cropping from 200 would've probs been the better option

[bitter trench]

Ive been taking photos for 1 month and hit my limit. Time to buy the 150-600mm

[green canyon]

what is your limit?

[dark ermine]

was seeing a regular reflex sight for a rifle should work the same so giving that a go with a shoe mount converter. we'll see this weekend!

[fast knoll]

i got this insane burst today

idk what the hell they were doing

[tender galleon]

it looks bit like the finnish flag

[left brook]

thats trippy

[glossy sage]

Kung fu apparently

[dreamy tinsel]

sparring session

[remote remnant]

got a bird hell yeah

[astral lodge]

proud of this one that I took at 105mm

[dreamy tinsel]

105???! thats crazy

and the background

[astral lodge]

My tightest lens is a 105

Here are some of the other pictures I've taken at 105

I really need a telephoto

[astral lodge]

But yeah these are all of the bird photos that I'm really proud of because my lenses aren't great

these are also the only photos on my instagram atm

I'm working on some portraits but until then it's all birds

[naive fiber]

I would like to see this

[bitter trench]

I need to try one of those 1.6x things that screw into the lens

forget the name

teleconverter?

[dreamy tinsel]

get a sigma 100-400

[astral lodge]

Yeah I know but it's expensive and I need to save for college tuition

[dreamy tinsel]

good luck with college

school > lence

[stable mantle]

Bruh people will think you scoping to kill birds xD

[dark ermine]

it may be a very interesting day the next time I visit the wildlife refuge...

[undone slate]

One question: when you crop a photo, does the size decrease? Or does it remain the same size but with fewer pixels?

[undone slate]

does that bird exist?

[undone slate]

105mm?

[green canyon]

no

[tender galleon]

eurasian jay

[stable mantle]

Birb!

Going to hunt for birbs in a few hours! 😄

[tender galleon]

idk if that is gallery worthy

shot through window in hurry

[stable mantle]

the focus is not on the eye unfortunately 🙁 bit much grass to but other than that lovely birb! 😄

[tender galleon]

yeah

[naive fiber]

1.4x

[naive fiber]

Pretty damn good at 105 wow

Oh right 105 x 1.5

157

That's still great

Northern mockingbird???

[undone slate]

My new feeder

[dreamy tinsel]

i just put some peanuts on the ground and pray

[tender galleon]

some eurasian blackbirds are nesting near my home

and two common kestrels

the field just has so many ticks so i dont really wanna go there

[undone slate]

yea you can do that also

well that feeder has been made with a 3D PRINTER

[naive fiber]

this isnt the best design I dont think

[tough hull]

Nice

[tough hull]

It’s a tit bruh

[naive fiber]

yes I can id fine

this is a bluetit

also hence the question marks

[undone slate]

why

i mean it's not bad

[naive fiber]

photography wise I mean

[undone slate]

hmmm

idk

So, from what I searched, this was the best.

but if you have one better you can send me on DM

[naive fiber]

I saw this once

[tender galleon]

have yall seen the bird buffet on instagram

[undone slate]

wow

yea but i can't do that with my 3d Printer

[undone slate]

maybe i could try do that in the future but not in my main house

well

I have a dog, I think the dog could destroy that...

[tender galleon]

is 3d print feeders good for birds

like microplastic stuff idk

i prefer mine made of wood

[undone slate]

yep

It is special plastic for outdoor use.

[naive fiber]

https://makerworld.com/en/models/1066278-classic-bird-feeder#profileId-1055332

these types of designs are nice tbh

[tender galleon]

real

[glossy sage]

Plastic tends to dry rot in the sun over time. Need to be conscious of what type of plastic you use to see if you'll be replacing it every other month

[naive fiber]

I made mine of wood as well

[tender galleon]

i have 2 house shaped feeders

[naive fiber]

honestly looks better but you get the issue of warping in rain

[tender galleon]

one in the forest and one in a good photo spot

[glossy sage]

Use a sealant like Rustoleum and don't nail/glue boards together cross grain

[tender galleon]

yeah had to fix the other feedes roof because it had warped

and i have this for these kinda foods

some blue tit enjoying the meal atm lol

[undone slate]

That's the one I sent last week, and I'll print it too.

[undone slate]

PTEG

[glossy sage]

PETG?

[undone slate]

yes? i think

[dusty fog]

genius

[glossy sage]

Outside moisture and the sun will dry rot PETG causing it to become brittle and flake apart

PETG is porous and absorbs moisture like crazy

[undone slate]

But I did see that it's the best type for outdoor use.

[glossy sage]

Its probably fine for a few months to a year

If you're wanting something you'll never really need to replace use wood or a pre-made plastic feeder that uses an industrial sealed plastic

[undone slate]

This feeder will be for 1 year, I don't plan to use it forever.

[glossy sage]

PETG also grows bacteria really easy so make sure you're cleaning it probably weekly

Wood absorbs and eats bacteria so its not that big of an issue with wood stuff

[undone slate]

So why do they say it's the best type for outdoor use?

[glossy sage]

I don't know who they is or what you read

[undone slate]

Search on Google for the best type of filament for outdoor use.

[glossy sage]

And then read what link?

I used to repair cosmetics on boats with a 3D printer and used ASA plastic

[undone slate]

boats?

[glossy sage]

Yes

[undone slate]

PETG offers better resistance to chemicals, oils, and UV light compared to PLA. This makes it more suitable for outdoor use or applications involving exposure to solvents.

[glossy sage]

Compared to PLA sure. PLA is cheap bad plastic

[undone slate]

ASA is also good, but I think both are fine.

[undone slate]

well idk if it's cheap

[glossy sage]

1 - stop reading AI overviews
2 - do what you want to do. I can't stop you. I'm just telling you the down sides. If they didn't exist everybody would be doing it

[undone slate]

yes, i know

[undone slate]

well i don't read AI overviews

[glossy sage]

I don't really mess around with food related stuff and materials. For example like why you should not use plastic cutting boards and should use wood

[glossy sage]

So... what link are you reading?

[glossy sage]

That looks like an overview? Youve cropped out any important information

Anyways I wouldn't use any of those plastics for outdoor usage long-term. When it comes to food though I definitely would not personally use any of them. I do not enjoy having to clean extra stuff

[tender galleon]

wouldnt trust ai overview on that kinda stuff

[undone slate]

wdym by the food?

[glossy sage]

Aren't you asking about a bird feeder

[undone slate]

yes

oh okk

But I think it's an economical way to make a feeder, so you don't spend money.

[glossy sage]

I mean you are spending money. Plastic and energy costs aren't free

[undone slate]

yea i know

but I spend less money

Besides, that filament has many uses, not just as a feeder, and since I have it, I'll take advantage and make a new feeder.

[glossy sage]

Here I can get enough wood for a small hanging feeder tray and liquid nails for < $10 so meh

[undone slate]

yes but if you want to have 2 feeders

[dusty fog]

3d printing being economical is news 😂

[undone slate]

Besides the fact that I already had that filament, I think it was more worthwhile to make it myself, as I believe the birds would eventually come anyway.

[undone slate]

I already had a 3D printer

[glossy sage]

Sure, do what you want. Just be conscious that it may not last a year+ and that you really should be cleaning at as thats a bacteria farm

And you probably don't want your birds getting sick and having diarrhea all over your stuff and you

[tender galleon]

this better looking for photos imo (shitty pic)

[glossy sage]

I put some whole peanuts out the other day and they were gone before I could even get my camera out of the camera cube

[undone slate]

wow

[undone slate]

where's that?

[undone slate]

Okay then, what I'll do is wash the feeding trough every week with a sponge and soap and then dry it with a towel.

[glossy sage]

Ok

[dreamy tinsel]

aura farming birb

[tender galleon]

photo taken from my living room window

[undone slate]

oh ok

[tough hull]

Bro has better goldfinch shots than me 😭

(I have none)

[undone slate]

why?

[undone slate]

not bad 😭

[tough hull]

Cuz I have only seen them twice since I got into photography? Or more likely noticed. I have prolly seen them before but not noticed. Now I saw them one time out my school window and one time on a street next to a church

[tough hull]

The bird is in shadow and a branch is blocking it. Nothing I would post in galleries, more likely a keep because it’s my first shot

[undone slate]

but where are you from?

[undone slate]

But I don't think the photo is that bad either.

[glossy sage]

focus on prop blur not birds

[tough hull]

No

[undone slate]

?

[tough hull]

Birds: everywhere
Props: I see once a year

[glossy sage]

ur arms are too shaky for birds

go find big stik

[undone slate]

what's props?

[tough hull]

No. I just need to keep it in frame and 1/2000 or 1/3000 will do the job

[tough hull]

Plane

[undone slate]

plane?✈️

[undone slate]

no

[glossy sage]

Looks like you super cropped it in. The subject is extremely blurry and the photo has a ton of noise, and the leaves are brighter than the subject drawing all the eye's attention and it looks

[undone slate]

i didn't crop anything

[tough hull]

He ain’t

It’s just bridge cam

[glossy sage]

Rock what are you using to edit

[undone slate]

well, i'm learning how to use darktable but it's pretty difficult.

[undone slate]

yea but consider my camera

[glossy sage]

I've never used Darktable but looks like it has a decent denoise on it

[undone slate]

well, idk if my photo has a lott of noise

[glossy sage]

It has a lot of noise

[undone slate]

idk

But I'm still not sure if it's worth editing this photo.

[glossy sage]

See how this looks like its speckled? Thats noise. Its all throughout the photo

A major improvement would be denoise for you

[undone slate]

But will the photo still be bad?

[glossy sage]

It is a pretty bird and you can't make your camera amazing. I think a better aspect ratio, denoise, and fixed lighting and it wont be half bad

[naive fiber]

It'll look better

[undone slate]

well i have very good goose photos

idk if you have seem them

[glossy sage]

I like your goldfinch in that photo Rock

I think ya just need to improve the processing on the photo

[undone slate]

so that's the problem?

[tough hull]

That’s more likely just bad in can denoise cuz he can’t shoot raw and cam is just shit

[undone slate]

oh if that's the problem ok i will denoise it

[naive fiber]

Wait it doesn't shoot raw

[tough hull]

I thought no raw

[undone slate]

😭

[naive fiber]

No does it or does it not

[tough hull]

You can’t denoise jpeg

[undone slate]

?

[undone slate]

😭

[naive fiber]

Shoot raw

[undone slate]

my camera can't do it

[tough hull]

Then you can’t denoise it

[naive fiber]

I'm manifesting an upgrade for you

[undone slate]

NIKON Z6 III

But can I get a good photo with my camera?

[naive fiber]

You could

But it'll be harder

[undone slate]

why?

[undone slate]

why not?

[naive fiber]

Because you have a tiny sensor

[undone slate]

yes

[tough hull]

Because it’s already denoised

[naive fiber]

1/2.3 I assume

[undone slate]

how?

[tough hull]

The camera does it

[undone slate]

i think so

[naive fiber]

The camera denoises the jpg yeah

JPGs are usually processed

[undone slate]

yes but can't a program do it again?

[tough hull]

I thought always

[tough hull]

Not really

[naive fiber]

I think there are a few cases where they aren't

But I don't really know

[tough hull]

K

[naive fiber]

I just said usually not to be wrong tbh

[tough hull]

K

[naive fiber]

K

[tough hull]

Bro

There was no need for you to text a k

Both of you

[naive fiber]

Fair but there was no need to get annoyed over that

[glossy sage]

oh your camera doesn't have a raw format?

[undone slate]

no

[tough hull]

Cheap bridge yeah

[undone slate]

Do you think my camera is better or the P1100?

[naive fiber]

P1100

But neither is good

P1100 can shoot raw and has a better lens

[undone slate]

But does the P1100 at its maximum zoom have better quality than my camera?

[tough hull]

P1100 all the way

[naive fiber]

Max zoom p1100 is useless

[undone slate]

i know

[tough hull]

huh

Isn’t it like 3000mm optical?

[undone slate]

yes

[naive fiber]

Yeah

I haven't seen good results out of that focal length though

[tough hull]

Bad quality or lack of ibis

[undone slate]

But my camera and the P1100 have the same sensor, I think.

[naive fiber]

Same size

I doubt the same sensor

[undone slate]

then the quality would be similar

[naive fiber]

With the noise that your camera has I doubt it

[stable mantle]

So i went down the local pond and saw something i didn’t think would be there at this time of year yet 🤔

[naive fiber]

I think the p1100 will have less noise

[undone slate]

So a 3000mm camera has better quality than my camera?

[naive fiber]

Kingfisher?

[naive fiber]

Not at 3000mm

[undone slate]

oh ok

[stable mantle]

Gooselings😍

Spend like almost 2 hours just shooting dem gooselings 😍

Totaly forgot about any other birb

[undone slate]

wow

[grizzled nebula]

Dxo has some work to do

[undone slate]

Well then I can get good photos with my camera but it's simply more complicated.

[grizzled nebula]

10000 iso

[undone slate]

It doesn't look very bright for such high ISO.

[grizzled nebula]

Cause its almost night time

[undone slate]

oh, ok

[grizzled nebula]

This is bright than it actually is

[undone slate]

but where was the photo?

in a forest?

[naive fiber]

Dove

[undone slate]

no

[naive fiber]

Praying for this

[undone slate]

turtledove

[naive fiber]

Mourning dove

[undone slate]

yes

[naive fiber]

So it's a dove

[undone slate]

no

Streptopelia turtur vs Columba livia

[dreamy tinsel]

aarvs have you tried rapidraws denoise perchance?

[grizzled nebula]

Tf is rapidraw

[undone slate]

what's rapidraws?

[dreamy tinsel]

editing software for brokies

[undone slate]

The feeder doesn't look bad either.

[grizzled nebula]

well ofc not then

[undone slate]

I don't know when they'll eat those sunflower seeds, I don't know if they can smell them.

[dreamy tinsel]

ah forgor your rich, my apologies for even putting free stuff and you in the same thought king

[naive fiber]

It doesnt change wb im pretty sure

[grizzled nebula]

but like is the denoising actually good?

[dreamy tinsel]

the best that ive used but then again ive only used affinitys one which imo sucks (unless im doing something wrong) and darktables auto denoise

[grizzled nebula]

try denoising this and we'll compare results with dxo

[glossy sage]

@undone slate welp I didn't know you don't have RAW. I threw this together over a screenshot of your photo as a really quick rough example of what I'd start playing with if you did

[dreamy tinsel]

ill try with a few different settings, gimme a min lol

[undone slate]

How did you do that?

[glossy sage]

I opened photoshop and drew a gradiant in the top left thats white and a linear gradient at the bottom thats black and made the red on the head brighter

All things you can probably do easier in darktable

oh and I yeeted the top branch out of the photo