Bird Photography

[naive fiber]

Everything but robins stay pretty high

[grizzled nebula]

Beautiful birds

[glossy sage]

I like the orange of the orange

Maybe more orange needed

[glossy sage]

"Why are all my shots blurry???"

Accidentally reset 1/4000 to 1/320 screw me

[tacit gazelle]

It's ok. Today I accidently shot sports at 120

[fast knoll]

dude some random dude on facebook drove over an hour to get a bcnh out of a tree

it was stuck on a ton of fishing line

i spotted this guy 2 days ago

[sharp ether]

That's brave

[tender galleon]

W dude

[sharp ether]

He'slucky that nothing happened to his eyes

[fast knoll]

yea ik

good thing bcnh has a short neck

he shouldve grabbed the beak

but in the moment i think we just wanted to save it

im glad the outcome was good for both of them lol

[glossy sage]

literal seconds before this bird just messed his nose up

[tough hull]

Let’s go

I swear thermals are amazing what you see with them

Like you go at night through a forest won’t see shit but the second you turn thermals on everything is full of animals

I saw elk for the first time in Germany through thermals

Also raccoons

[undone slate]

@analog rivet Are there any significant changes from the Z6 III to the Z7?

[dreamy tinsel]

ive seen ppl having binoculars in their birding kit, does anyone here use them?

and how helpful are they?

[acoustic hull]

i have binoculars but i dont use them while photographing anything

[narrow crag]

I use binoculars all the time

not usually with my camera but they're much more convenient to carry around

[analog rivet]

Not even comparable ngl

Z6iii is vastly better

Haven’t really gave it a proper run yet

[tough hull]

If they got more range than your camera with lens then they are useful for birds further away than your camera can reach

Mostly what I heard from birders, they use like scopes for birding like binoculars but like mono so just one thing and you get crazy ranges on these and can attach cameras

Depends on which one you get though

Keep in mind this is just what someone else told me who is a birder

So don’t really know much it’s just what I heard

[gilded yarrow]

I have some but just for fun, they wont help your photography or anything

[magic crown]

yeah i'm excited to get it this look insane

[naive fiber]

you can see my house in the eye this is scary

[green canyon]

@magic crown where the hell did you find the alpha symbol in your name

[magic crown]

someone typed it one day and i take it x)

[green canyon]

i cant copy it 😭

[magic crown]

𝛼6400

now you can

[naive fiber]

alt+244

[green canyon]

i can copy it on pc

not on my phone though

[naive fiber]

https://wumbo.net/symbols/alpha/

[charred holly]

𝛼

I'm on a phone

[green canyon]

unfair

[charred holly]

Just copy the whole message

[green canyon]

wait now i can

wtf

[naive fiber]

𝛼6700

yeah

[charred holly]

or just switch to canon or nikon, R and Z are real letters lmao

[tender galleon]

i have the same with this one

should i use auto ISO instead of the one where it chooses shutter speed

it just becomes so noisy so fast with my camera

and it always chooses like iso 6400

[charred holly]

I never switch off auto iso for wildlife

I just pick shutter speed, aperture, and prey that there is enough light

[green canyon]

same

[analog rivet]

Someone posted a pic yesterday in #🦀・creatures where you could see them in the Birds Eye

Kinda insane

[charred holly]

I had a pretty cool photo of a bird taken at 50mm

Couldn't post it since it would dox a friend lol

[naive fiber]

Oh wow thats detailed

[analog rivet]

Said the same thing

That’s so sharp

[naive fiber]

those bubbles wtf

[tender galleon]

weird looking bird tho

[tender galleon]

ill try next time i go bird

[analog rivet]

Kinda swan I think no?

Something like that

[charred holly]

To be fair, I lied a bit

[analog rivet]

Water birds all have a bit of character to them

[charred holly]

I do kinda tweak auto iso

Sometimes I switch to slowest when I know the subject wont move and there isn't enough light

[tender galleon]

the ball thing on the beak

[charred holly]

Wait, that changes shutter speed not iso, I'm stupid lol

[glossy sage]

I always auto ISO everything else manual unless my background is super high contrast and it gets the iso wrong

[tough hull]

Thx

[fast knoll]

swan goose

domestic

[grizzled nebula]

Not edited

[glossy sage]

The lighting in this photo is a bit awkward not sure where to start edits at, if I even should

The light is directly hitting the side of my subject you see pretty flat. So everything being evenly brightly lit is well rather correct

and no sharp angles for any shadow play

[naive fiber]

I think the composition is a bit awkward mainly

it's a tad too far to the left

[glossy sage]

You think so? Its rule of thirds'd

this is the full size I do have room to move it around

[naive fiber]

Oh yeah that's better

[glossy sage]

I guess I mess with color grading to try and create the visual separation between foreground and background?

[naive fiber]

You can use the rule of thirds but try push it more to the right

[glossy sage]

What do u think about this? Its a crazy crop but still seems sharp

But I also liked the color in the trees hm

I'll play with it, thanks for the feedback

[naive fiber]

brown eye wow

[magic crown]

my order got canceled due to a stock error it's out of stock actually

so i need to wait to get refund

[grizzled nebula]

Cant denoise properly cause im on mobile

[glossy sage]

What noise silly

[naive fiber]

What next idk if I'm done

[glossy sage]

I like this bird

I have swallow tailed kites that fly overhead but I can never capture em they fly so high up

[magic crown]

careful on bright area they are overexposed on most

[fast knoll]

yea it's frying my eyes just a tiny bit

[grizzled nebula]

Ill have to edit on my pc

[left brook]

very sharp

[remote remnant]

caught the exact moment i got this pic

@fast knoll 1dx2 locked focus real quick

you can see how fast i raised the camera up to my face 💀

[fast knoll]

Wow that’s pretty quick

How does the af work again? Do u mostly use spot

[remote remnant]

for this one i probably used full area

auto point

but single pt is the most reliable

[tough hull]

Nooo

[glossy sage]

Are u still dying

[remote remnant]

nope

[tough hull]

Holy noise bruh

[remote remnant]

i added grain i think

idk

i dont usually 🤷‍♂️

[undone slate]

So why did you buy the Z7?

[undone slate]

I was searching on Google and I saw that the Z6 III is better in almost every aspect.

[grizzled nebula]

Higher mp for product photography is my guess

[acoustic hull]

I like thinking about climbing iso as camera telling me "you are starving me of light dummy, rethink your life choices and settings."

[left brook]

except raw detail from DR and megapixels

over a stop better at the low end

[dreamy tinsel]

he has both, z6iii as a main and z7 as a second body, mainly for portraits and products im assuming

[grizzled nebula]

Z8 seems kinda cool

Saw a few yesterday

[left brook]

u should switch ecosystems

[grizzled nebula]

No

Ill see when the next cams come out

But rn idk why id switch

[grizzled nebula]

One thing thats nice about nikon and sony is the camera doesnt stop shooting when u fill the buffer

[analog rivet]

Mainly portraits and product photos

I don’t only shoot wildlife

It’s just one of the few genres I shoot often

[acoustic hull]

Rookie mistake

[dreamy tinsel]

bring your cam to school with you

[tender galleon]

my cameras this chart goes like 📉

but doesnt go that much up

[grizzled nebula]

maybe i should make it warmer

[tough hull]

Damn my bad I meant it to be in plane

[tough hull]

Nah imagine a student kicking my backpack

[grizzled nebula]

i still need to fix this last one

idk if this one is better or the other one

[tender galleon]

try deleting the branch over the bird

[tender galleon]

this ones better

[dreamy tinsel]

dawg what kind of school are you in 😭

[tough hull]

Well it’s not really my school, rather the students of the school next to us, the type of school that’s way easier and usually the people who fought a lot in primary are the ones that didn’t learn and so they went there. And those are the danger for my camera

Mostly in the bus though

[green canyon]

realschule?

[tender galleon]

wait is there a mode for auto iso or do i just put manual and iso to auto

[fast knoll]

u could prob use shutter priority too

it does the exact same thing

[tender galleon]

is it av on canon

[fast knoll]

nah that's aperture

should be tv

wait no

wait yea

it's Tv lol final answer

i personally just use Fv mode and set aperture to wide open, ISO to auto, then i have the dial to adjust ss

[tender galleon]

is this shutter priority?

[grizzled nebula]

no

Shutter priority is TV

[tender galleon]

on my camera tv doesnt let set aperture

[fast knoll]

really? u can't jst set it to wide open?

then use Fv mode

[tender galleon]

i dont have fv lmao

[fast knoll]

can u just use M and set auto ISO?

i honestly dont know the diff between Fv and M

i could use my Fv mode exactly like manual if i wanted to

[tender galleon]

thats what i asked in the first place lol

ill try M and auto iso

gotta set auto iso range so it doesnt always put 12800

[fast knoll]

my range goes up to 25600

but the photo is pretty shit if i have to get that high anyway so i try to drop shutter speed as much as possible

[tender galleon]

my camera cant handle iso that well

[grizzled nebula]

i can use 102000 iso

but it's shit

well depends how big the subject it

and how close u are to it

[dreamy tinsel]

goofy ahh graph

[grizzled nebula]

[naive fiber]

mines pretty flat

[grizzled nebula]

not too bad

[naive fiber]

its pretty usable until around 5000 ish I find

[tender galleon]

wow thats very flat

[naive fiber]

I suppose thats a good thing though

[tender galleon]

yeah i think

some cameras have it go like this 📉 (it goes slightly upwards in the middle)

[dreamy tinsel]

show da d7200

[tender galleon]

wow there was easter bunny so close

[naive fiber]

too cluttered?

also wtf is the d5

[grizzled nebula]

R6II my goat

[green canyon]

have you heard anything about artemis II

[naive fiber]

no I meant the 50 to 3200 range

[green canyon]

nvm then

[naive fiber]

d5 is obviously great lmao

[green canyon]

yeah that looks really odd

[naive fiber]

d6 same pattern

same sensor though makes sense

weird

[tough hull]

Mittelschule ist neben meinem Gymnasium bruh

[green canyon]

ist mittelschule so ein bayern ding
noch nie davon gehört

[tough hull]

Mittelschule/Hauptschule ist dasselbe

Frag mich nicht warum aber die Schule heißt Halt Mittelschule … aber ist eine Hauptschule offiziell glaub ich weil man da halt hauptschulabschluss macht

[green canyon]

ah

Hauptschulen gibts hier kaum noch

[tough hull]

Krass, hier geht so 1/3 auf Mittelschule/Hauptschule

[dreamy tinsel]

[tender galleon]

geese in the background

[tough hull]

Lol

[naive fiber]

Its only worse than the rest because apsc

[tough hull]

🥀

[tough hull]

Mb

[undone slate]

I thought it was for wildlife photography.

[naive fiber]

Confused but apology accepted

[undone slate]

very bad photo

[left brook]

nope

wildlife he uses the z6iii and does on the side

[undone slate]

oh ok

[tough hull]

Z6 III is very good for wildlife

Only problem it lacks raw precap

[undone slate]

what's precap?

[tough hull]

Precapture

Your camera constantly takes photos until you press the shutter and then it saves the last 1 sec before you pressed

So you don’t miss a shot

[charred holly]

JPEG isn't that bad for editing anyway

As long as you don't tweak a stupid amount of exposure

[tough hull]

Depends

That bird that suddenly flies infront of the sun/is in the direction of the sun with one half

[charred holly]

Yeah, birds in front of bright sky is always tough

[tough hull]

Raw all the way. JPEG only if you can 100% plan the shot or have enough tries lol

[charred holly]

I wouldn't ever pick JPEG over raw lmao

But JPEG got a bad rap from online snobs

I wish cameras could output AVIF or JPEG XL...

[tough hull]

lol when I was with my friends back in January I shot jpeg because I wasn’t gonna edit silly photos of us

And I shot JPEG back when I did not have Lightroom because I wasn’t gonna edit like man this don’t matter…

[charred holly]

This was a JPEG capture from the time I didn't know any better

White balanced it, it still looks fine

[tough hull]

Yeah it had good lighting

But it’s not always like that

[glossy sage]

Rip focus 🙁

[grizzled nebula]

just my dumb ass using F/4 while being so close to the bird

but it's in focus

[glossy sage]

F/8-F/11 or bust and 3200 shutter speed or higher for small birbs 😎

Its actually just the R6 II's inferior sensor to the R8s /s

[sharp ether]

being too close to a bird has never been a problem for me because they're never close

[grizzled nebula]

R8 stealing the superior R6II's sensor

[glossy sage]

This is true

I did steal it

[grizzled nebula]

uncropped

[sharp ether]

bruh how is it letting you get so close lol

[glossy sage]

Great herons aren't very scared birbs

[naive fiber]

I really need to get a 150-600 but right now I'm able to get somewhat nice photos out of my 70-200

Being too close is always an issue

[glossy sage]

Now how aarvs and others gets so close to small birbs is beyond me

Im maxing 600mm every time and still getting wide shots

[grizzled nebula]

saw some purple herons yesterday

[grizzled nebula]

i only get close to those who are used to humans

[naive fiber]

Oh yes I saw a long tailed tit at the golf course

Very cute

[glossy sage]

I've been sitting outside at my bird feeder lately trying to get them used to me

So far a blue jay has accepted me. Outside of that my feeder becomes a ghost town

[naive fiber]

They get scared at the sound of a shutter

I hide behind my window

[grizzled nebula]

i was pretty close to this one too

this was high ISO

[glossy sage]

How high?

[naive fiber]

I liked this one

Its just standing there

[grizzled nebula]

6400

[naive fiber]

Denoised or no?

[glossy sage]

Oh thats not that bad

Brighter than golden hour

[grizzled nebula]

i mean it's quite high on a small subject

[naive fiber]

Yeah my camera could not do that I top out at 5000 before shittery

[grizzled nebula]

i'm at 1-2k iso at golden hour

[glossy sage]

Golden hour has me sit usually around 8-10k

I shoot with sun behind me though based on where the trees and stuff are at my house

[grizzled nebula]

sun doesn't set where i can see it

[naive fiber]

Golden hour makes me sit at 1k ish yeah

Unless there's a cloud

[glossy sage]

This was 8k ISO (and LR denoised)

[naive fiber]

That's pretty good for 8k

[grizzled nebula]

can tell

[naive fiber]

Updated the feeder yet again

[grizzled nebula]

r6II clear

[glossy sage]

Yeah if only I had the R6 II sensor amiright

[grizzled nebula]

i need to make a perch above my feeder

[glossy sage]

Eventually ima add a peanut tray to my feeder but right now I only have 2x4 wood and its too thicc for this stuff

[naive fiber]

My feeder is working nicely for photography currently

[magic crown]

it's spring so feeders will soon end (in north hemisphere)

[glossy sage]

Im in the Northern hemisphere and its almost peak season for birbs here

[shut hazel]

Cap

[glossy sage]

no cap

They don't have much to naturally be scared about

[fast knoll]

it depends

on if theyre used to ppl or not

i went to a protected area once that u need permission to enter

and even the gbh would flush so far away

but u can def get close to most of them

[shut hazel]

I was walking past one while it was on the other side of a river

Ts bird flew away

I go in its general direction

Flies away again

Took me forever to iust get this damn photo

[undone slate]

ohh ok, yes, i do with my camera. The downside is that you then have a lot of photos to delete and it takes a lot of time, but oh well.

[dreamy tinsel]

naur that different

(i think)

[left brook]

600/4 so stupid sharp

[grizzled nebula]

imagine on 45mp

[left brook]

whats next upgrade for u

[grizzled nebula]

R5II

[left brook]

is r3/1 only gripped bodies

[grizzled nebula]

yh for mirrorless

but they're 24mp

r5ii is 45 mp

[left brook]

yea

wish they had a 45mp gripped body like some other brands

[grizzled nebula]

atleast they have the best wildlife AF

[tough hull]

No. It only saves one second before

[undone slate]

can you explain?

[undone slate]

wdym?

[tough hull]

I’m 90% sure you don’t have precapture

[grizzled nebula]

nikon has jpg pre cap

and he has a sony pns

[dreamy tinsel]

put some peanuts near a bush, now we pray

fahh the bird didnt land on a nice spot

[tender galleon]

magpie was so close when i was biking home

[undone slate]

but wdym by precapture?

[tough hull]

It takes pictures all the time but deletes them after one second and if you press the shutter button it takes pictures normally and saves 1 sec before you pressed the button

[undone slate]

But why delete them? What's the point of that?

[tough hull]

Listen: you sit there and watch a bird, your camera points at it and you sit there for five minutes waiting for the bird to take off and fly away and during that time your camera takes like over 5k photos of the same thing over and over again but it deletes them after one second and if you press the shutter it saves this one second so you have the moment where it starts flying even if you are a little late. And the deleting happens so you don’t have a shit ton of photos

[dreamy tinsel]

well fuck me place got raided by about 10 pigeons

[undone slate]

But does the camera take photos without pressing the shutter button?

[tough hull]

Yes

[undone slate]

why?

[tough hull]

Ok

[undone slate]

That doesn't happen on my camera

[tough hull]

Because it doesn’t have precapture

[undone slate]

I understand that, but I don't understand why the camera is constantly taking photos if they're not to be saved...

[tough hull]

Nikon Z6 II and III have it but only jpeg

[undone slate]

yep

[tough hull]

The last around 30photos get saved after you pressed th shutter button

[undone slate]

Ohh ok

But pre-capture is activated manually, right?

[tough hull]

Yes

[undone slate]

That's useful if you're constantly pointing at the bird, but if you're not, you'd be taking pictures of the ground.

[tough hull]

YEAH, that’s what I have been telling you in my last 20 messages

[undone slate]

i know

[undone slate]

I have a question: could someone explain how to use exposure compensation? And how does it physically work on the camera? What does it do?

[naive fiber]

when you change exposure compensation you override the camera’s automatic metering to make photos brighter or darker

[tender galleon]

some of the last geese

gonna go to hunt ducks to the city tmrw

[undone slate]

I put them out 2 hours ago... I don't know when the goldfinches will come.

[grizzled nebula]

2 woodpecker 2 cuckoos and 2 hoopoes heard today but 0 photos

[green canyon]

today was pretty mid for me aswell

i think i got a nice duck photo

but thats kinda it

[glossy sage]

What kind of wall are they attached to?

Birds like areas they can see all around and have places they can escape to. They are hesitant to take from feeders attached to human structures

[grizzled nebula]

i'm gonna go look for hoopoes again tomorrow

[undone slate]

where?

[grizzled nebula]

around where i live

[undone slate]

In the urbanization or in the forest?

I only saw it once, but I never saw it again. 😭

[grizzled nebula]

i heard one today in someone's garden

it was less than 20m away from me

[undone slate]

It's an open area and there are usually some near my house. By "near" I mean they sometimes pass by my house, but they're usually about 10 meters away or something like that.

[undone slate]

wow

I don't know how you see them there, here they are rare to see.

I live right in the white zone of the Iberian Peninsula, where there are the fewest.

[sharp ether]

its scientific name is always fun to say

[undone slate]

upopa epops

[naive fiber]

I'm probably going to get a new feeder because this only attracting bluetit thing is slightly annoying

[undone slate]

maybe you can try getting a photo with ur camera

of the bluetit

[grizzled nebula]

they're quite common here when they migrate

[undone slate]

And have you ever seen an Estrilda astrild?

It's a bad photo, but I don't know how to take better pictures of them because they're usually in the grass and in a hard-to-reach place.

[sharp ether]

that's a beautiful bird

[grizzled nebula]

we don't have them in france

[sharp ether]

Africa has some insane birds

[undone slate]

It's bad because you can't take pictures of it, but good for the ecosystem.

[undone slate]

yep

idk how to get a good photo of it

[naive fiber]

I have many others I do not care much for

probably one of these feeders as I can't mount my feeder on my other window

[undone slate]

if you have a 3d printer you can do it

[undone slate]

wow

[undone slate]

but that was on the feeder?

[naive fiber]

Yes

[glossy sage]

Today's image on my brave browser goes hard

[glossy sage]

Is that by the same person?

[naive fiber]

Yep

[glossy sage]

Epic

[undone slate]

anyone

[glossy sage]

It can take weeks for birds to find feeders

[undone slate]

but that's not a feeder

[glossy sage]

It can take weeks for birds to find and adapt to new things*

[undone slate]

It's the goldfinches' favorite plant.

[undone slate]

idk because they're used to that plant

[glossy sage]

They arent used to it being there

[undone slate]

No, but if they're flying and they find that maybe they will eat it

[glossy sage]

Most birds have garbage eyesight. It'll take time for them to recognize it, then check it out here and there and gauge how safe it is. Then if they like it start becoming regulars

Nature takes time its not stuff that happens in a few hours

Its also wild animals. Sometimes you can do everything right and still get no results

[undone slate]

but they have a pretty good vision

[glossy sage]

Not the same way humans do

[undone slate]

Birds possess vastly superior vision compared to humans, with raptors (eagles, hawks) having 4–8 times higher visual acuity and the ability to see ultraviolet (UV) light. Birds have four types of color cones (tetrachromatic) vs. humans' three (trichromatic), allowing them to see a wider spectrum, faster motion, and more vivid colors

[glossy sage]

Majority of birds are really good at seeing contrast. Like a dark rat in bright colored grass the dark in the light they see the difference very well

Not individual shapes and details

[glossy sage]

There are birds with crazy vision like the ones listed, that is not the type of birds you're trying to attract to your home

[undone slate]

oh ok

[glossy sage]

Unless you're trying to attract hawks. In that case fill ur backyard with rodents

[undone slate]

but have you ever tried to attract goldfinchs to your house?

[undone slate]

🦅

but where are u from?

[glossy sage]

Not on purpose. I've seen a couple during winter

[undone slate]

they're only from europe

[undone slate]

you could try do it

do u have any bird feeder?

[glossy sage]

I'm in Florida in the USA, we get goldfinches during winter

[undone slate]

hmm

i think they're not the same as here

not my photo

[glossy sage]

We have the American Goldfinch, people mistake them for yellow cardinals

[undone slate]

Spinus tristis- american goldfinch
Carduelis carduelis- european goldfinch

they're not even related

[undone slate]

wow, i've never seen a cardinal before

[naive fiber]

Yes the Europeans named them similarly because they look similar

Same with the robin

[glossy sage]

Sure you have, I've posted cardinals several times 😉

[undone slate]

And maybe to you it's as common as seeing sparrows here.

[undone slate]

i mean with my eyes

in person

[naive fiber]

I did see a long tailed tit for the first time yesterday at the golf course

[undone slate]

yep

[naive fiber]

I brought this up but I have never seen one before somehow

[undone slate]

idk if i have those in spain

[undone slate]

?

[naive fiber]

You do in most of Spain

[naive fiber]

Long tailed tit

[undone slate]

For me, seeing this would be super strange, but for people who live in America it's normal...

[undone slate]

i've never seen one

[naive fiber]

I have seen these a lot in kenya

Nice bird

[sharp ether]

lol that's not true at all

They all have excellent vision

As already mentioned, many birds have vastly superior vision compared to humans

[naive fiber]

They also have pretty good spatial awareness

[undone slate]

Why were you in Kenya?

[naive fiber]

From there

[undone slate]

wdym

[naive fiber]

I'm from kenya

[undone slate]

oh, really?

[naive fiber]

Yeah

[undone slate]

I thought you were from the UK

idk why

[naive fiber]

I am

[undone slate]

what

[naive fiber]

I can live in the UK but be from kenya

[glossy sage]

Sure, but not the backyard birds he is trying to attract. They excel in contrast not shapes

[undone slate]

yes yes

[undone slate]

carduelis carduelis

In fact, the name of the teasel in Spanish is similar to the scientific name of the goldfinch.

carduelis carduelis

With luck, I could have the first goldfinches tomorrow or next week.

[sharp ether]

All birds can see just as well as humans and in more colours. Idk where you read that they can't see shapes as well, that's not true

[glossy sage]

I was reading on camouflaging for birding and it was saying wear low contrast colors to the environments and move low and still. Birds have a hard time detecting unique shapes and details and instead excel in contrast and movement

If you're dark green in a dark green forest it'd be very hard for them to recognize a human figure is what it was sayin

[naive fiber]

They just don't realise that there is a difference

The reason we can do that is because we are well smarter than birds

To slay the least

[glossy sage]

Vision is the combined process though

Potato potato either way gonna take them a while to recognize a new space

[green canyon]

breaking up your silhouette can still help a lot

[undone slate]

And do you think birds with a brown feeder can see it well?

[green canyon]

@magic crown do you use a neoprene lens cover?

[magic crown]

yeah

[undone slate]

But goldfinches are specialized in "detecting" thistles.

[green canyon]

which one?

[undone slate]

what's neoprene?

oh ok

i know

[magic crown]

a rolan pro

and the camo is leaves variant

[green canyon]

im debating between this and a lenscoat one

but rolanpro is much more affordable

[magic crown]

i have it 6 month now and it's still good

and it cover the rain/heat really well

[green canyon]

i also found a person in germany who makes them
https://www.ebay.de/itm/168299084285

[magic crown]

yeah but no

[green canyon]

why not?

[magic crown]

not the same level of waterproofing

https://amzn.eu/d/07sRnYwq

i have this one

[green canyon]

rolanpro also ships via aliexpress
its only 70€ there but i dont know how much shipping will be

[magic crown]

sometimes it says it cost less but they covering back on shipping

[green canyon]

yeah

[magic crown]

and on amazon you are sure it's not a fake one

[green canyon]

apparently it is waterproof

[magic crown]

and also prevents the lens from overheating and therefore from thermal deformation

[green canyon]

I think i will go with this one, its half the price
the rest i will use to buy a camo blanket

[grizzled nebula]

Rolanpro is better in every way

[green canyon]

than the ebay listing or lenscoat?

[grizzled nebula]

Lenscoat

Rolanpro has better build quality etc

[green canyon]

good to know

ill still go with the ebay listing though, its just so much cheaper

[magic crown]

for that kind of stuff don't really mess with the price it's a cost for a reason

[grizzled nebula]

You do you but I’d rather get the best quality

If you want more camo stuff tragopan is good

[magic crown]

yeah

[grizzled nebula]

1.4x tc arrives next week

Next purchase will be a lens coat

For the 600

[glossy sage]

Who was having issues with great blue herons being scared the other day

I guess I am the heron whisperer

[grizzled nebula]

Lol

[glossy sage]

Some off cam previews

[magic crown]

what a strong direct light

https://tenor.com/view/suffer-depression-no-noo-crying-gif-950269110864679378

[grizzled nebula]

purple heron

[magic crown]

did you added blur ?

the bokeh is kinda weird

[dark minnow]

So I sold my first print today

[magic crown]

nice what pic you sold ?

[grizzled nebula]

yh i wanted to make it smooth but failed so this image is not gonna be edited

for the bin

well actually i'll keep it just cause it's a purple heron but i'll never upload it anywhere

[magic crown]

the artificial bokeh is too strong on this one

purple heron is hard to get so it's still a good job

[grizzled nebula]

i saw 5 come out of a tree

[magic crown]

yeah it's the season actually

btw tomorrow little hide in the Crau to get maybe an owl

[grizzled nebula]

some dumb cunt stopped me from getting an owl pic

his stupid old ass scooter scared it away

[grizzled nebula]

what kinds of owls are there in the crau

[magic crown]

tawny owl (forest part) and some little owl

[glossy sage]

I need to go back to a park a few hrs away for roseated spoonbill babies

[grizzled nebula]

only 1h from away from me

we have so many scops owls here yet i can't seem to see one

[magic crown]

you want to laugh ? i've got a couple of tawny owl only 10 minutes away

i just wait to get the thermal monocular

[grizzled nebula]

how much does that cost

[magic crown]

400€ for a good cheap one

i'm saving up to get it bc they canceled the previous order

https://tenor.com/view/suffer-depression-no-noo-crying-gif-950269110864679378

[grizzled nebula]

https://tenor.com/view/bruh-gif-22596911

wtf

[magic crown]

otherwise it's 1000€ or 2000€

for a decent one

[grizzled nebula]

yh fuck that

[glossy sage]

How r u gonna get a good photo tho?

Or is it just for bird watching

[glossy sage]

Good NOD Goggles are 5x this and only buyable through private routes too. Night vision stuff is craazy

[magic crown]

it's just to see thermal signature

not to take photos like a camera

[fast knoll]

@green canyon have u gotten any photos with ur new setup yet

[green canyon]

still need to edit

[shut hazel]

FUUUCO

I was so close

To getting 2 hummingbirds flying together

[green canyon]

also havent had time to properly test it yet

[shut hazel]

They were in some trees too close to focus well

[fast knoll]

oh wow

[shut hazel]

Wtf are they even doing zawg

Lmao

[finite flower]

google and youtube

[fast knoll]

perhaps mating

[shut hazel]

I think so

There was a male and female

🙏

[shut hazel]

Oo

@fast knoll

Im gonna tweak

Ts twig zawg

Atleast i got something new today

Thatll be interesting to check in post

[dark minnow]

It didn’t upload the photo but here it is

[magic crown]

Worth it

[glossy sage]

Nice Anhinga! I saw one today but bro wouldn't stop plucking feathers and give me a good shot 😂

[dark minnow]

Yeah, 13x19 on Epson luster

[dark minnow]

Yeah, i shot this one from like 3 feet away

[magic crown]

Oh that's tiny

Most print i selled was around 20x30 and 30x45

[finite flower]

i need to print my own photos

and sell them to myself

[magic crown]

Go print a 60x40 with a printer

[finite flower]

i wanna print these 3

but the third one is too gory i think

gorey

[magic crown]

Holy massacre

The bird made an absolute mess

[dark minnow]

Its the only type of paper I had sadly

And for the price of it I’m fine with that

[shut hazel]

its not that great ig

whatever

i like this one tho

mating pic aint that good

but i love the other 2

[glossy sage]

Use Bayphoto Labs if you're in the US

I used EasyCanvasPrint my first time and it was a not good print for the cost. I emailed them about it and they claimed my photo was too small. But I did the math and ran it through several sites that said my photo wasn't even maxing the canvas size out that I could go to

[undone slate]

ok

[tough hull]

I love these

[tough hull]

Fishing rn

Brought my cam

[grizzled nebula]

Same

Wish i couldve gotten close

maybe i can get more quality from it by cropping on pc

going back here tomorrow

hopefully more kestrels and more luck

hoopoes reported there a few days ago

[tender galleon]

as soon as i got low he said im out 😭

yeah i wanted a pic of the cig not the bird 🙄

bro city birds are a cheatcode

they come so close

pigeon was so close i couldnt focus

sadly i dont get to visit the city often

[tough hull]

Well guess where I got these

In the city

[tender galleon]

cute ❤️

[tough hull]

Yeah thx

I’m still here fishing

After fishing I might just go and take some more pictures

[tough hull]

All of theses are out of focus btw

[tender galleon]

im gonna quickly edit some pigeons on my phone and see if i got anything

[tough hull]

Because my dumb ahh didn’t want to go f9

I shot at 6.3

[tender galleon]

rip

well its good when you show it quickly to someone

they wont notice

[tough hull]

I got sharp ones though

[tender galleon]

show full

[tender galleon]

so cutee

[tough hull]

Yeah

It’s my first time having this combo in the city and it’s already worth it

[grizzled nebula]

pic is kinda ass tbh

[tender galleon]

woah the first one

[tough hull]

I never see theses

I think I got them while mating

Looked more like drowning tbh

[grizzled nebula]

i saw hundreds

maybe 300

[tough hull]

Goddamn

That’s crazy

[tender galleon]

i once almost stepped over a curlews nest (there was 3 eggs) 😭

[tough hull]

I need to go there

[tender galleon]

it was like 3 yrs ago and i was playing pokemon while walking so i only got pic with my buddy pokemon in the pic 😂

[tough hull]

2.5m away from me

I could literally catch them rn with my bare hands

Meanwhile where I usually go I need like a super realistic ghillie suit to get in range for a 1200mm lens

[glossy sage]

Man I was being trolled by laughing gulls yesterday. They would not move to a spot where I had a clear background

[grizzled nebula]

sometimes a little bit of noise looks good and here i think it does tbh

idk why

[dusty fog]

i mean yeah personally i hate ultra clean images

just looks fake

if its not above like 4000 iso i'm not even touching it

when it's this low it basically looks like nice grain

[grizzled nebula]

i denoise basically all my pics except for when i want to do something that looks grainy

also i'd love to see bluejays

don't have them in france unfortunately

[undone slate]

Photographing a pigeon in the street is, I'd say, somewhat complicated because if you want to avoid people appearing in the background...

[grizzled nebula]

that's quite easy

[undone slate]

how?

@grizzled nebula have you seen the upopa epops?

hoopoe

[grizzled nebula]

not yet

[grizzled nebula]

just wait to have no one behind or get a decent camera + lens for the bokeh to make them dissapear

[naive fiber]

Greenfinches honestly look like fed up old men

[magic crown]

Holy pose

(Low res preview)

[dusty fog]

30 fps is cheating

[tacit gazelle]

Back when I had the 75-300

Not bad

[tough hull]

Ass photo

[tacit gazelle]

I think the shingles is my mistake a couple months ago I probably didn't raise shadows

But for holding a camera for like a week it's not that bad

[tough hull]

Still an ass photo

Not a bad photo

But ass photo

[tacit gazelle]

Ye

[tough hull]

Photo of ass

[tacit gazelle]

I take bird ass photo a lot

[tough hull]

Me too

[tacit gazelle]

The right one is shit

Quality wise

[tough hull]

Holy noise lol

[tacit gazelle]

That one was shot on iso 100

The camera focused on the branch instead the bird

And the light meter focused on the skyish so the butt was too dark

[magic crown]

Little owl !

Now i pray to have it on a perch

[grizzled nebula]

La garde?

[magic crown]

La Crau

[naive fiber]

What shutter speed was this as well

[grizzled nebula]

finally got one

and it's a decent pic too

[green canyon]

looks great

[grizzled nebula]

30 fps

https://tenor.com/view/smoke-duck-gif-13236181837901593958

pathetic

imagine not having 40 fps

[grizzled nebula]

thanks ❤️

[dusty fog]

https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-anakin-i-want-more-and-i-know-i-shouldnt-anakin-skywalker-gif-23940512

[green canyon]

11 fps

[grizzled nebula]

https://tenor.com/view/nelson-haha-bully-laugh-sarcastic-gif-13381063

[tough hull]

I saw one guy shoot these with a pellet gun 🥀

[grizzled nebula]

imma shoot him with a TAC-50

[tough hull]

He just be shooting birds not even knowing what they are

I have never seen those

I wanna see them

[grizzled nebula]

what server

[tough hull]

Fishing and hunting server

[grizzled nebula]

poor hoopoe

state of that pfp btw

[tough hull]

This guy is from turkey

[grizzled nebula]

turkey (bird) brain

[grizzled nebula]

may i have the link

[tough hull]

Don’t tell them I got you there

[grizzled nebula]

dw

idk why i'd mention it anyway tbh

[tough hull]

I sent you in DMs

[grizzled nebula]

seeing his message he seems mentally disabled

idk if we can say the word i wanna say here

[tough hull]

Lmao

[grizzled nebula]

he literally kills birds for no reason

what's the hoopoes or house sparrow done to him

[tough hull]

Idk he feeds them to his cat at least

Still stupid

But at least not fully wasted, just 99%

[sharp ether]

you can't say that word

[grizzled nebula]

actually

[tough hull]

Also this is no crop top it’s my phone as a comparison

Out of focus

But in the city you can really get hella close

Some guy was hand feeding a swan

[grizzled nebula]

uncropped

i could've touched it if i wanted to

this pigeon was quite close

[sharp ether]

Interesting, it isn't allowed in other servers I'm in

[grizzled nebula]

this server is slightly special

[tough hull]

Bro

Where can you get that close

[grizzled nebula]

camargue

parc ornithologique du pont de gau

they're very used to humans

[tough hull]

Like closest I got was in the same city as today and it was on the other side of a 2-3m wide pond

[grizzled nebula]

i was just above 1.2m away

i was basically at the min focus distance of the 100-500 at 500mm

[tough hull]

Damn

Min focus for my 200-600 is 2.1m or so

[grizzled nebula]

100-500 goated

can do semi macro

[sharp ether]

I wish I could get any bird at that distance, let alone a heron

[tough hull]

I actually slap on macro adapters on my 200-600 sometimes

But for some reasons I can’t get close to birds then

[tender galleon]

lil bro posing

[tender galleon]

crazy

[tough hull]

In summer they steal your food if you sit and look away

[tender galleon]

wouldnt expect that from the pic you sent looks so innocent

[tough hull]

Because so many people feed them, when they see a hand close enough they just take the food out of it

[tough hull]

Yeah not yet

[tender galleon]

in my city its not allowed to feed them

[grizzled nebula]

Warra phone photography

[tender galleon]

still saw and old man feeding them today

[tough hull]

As soon as the pool on the other side opens there will be bored kids throwing away chips and bread and everything which they will eat

[tough hull]

Is it a lake or a river?

[tender galleon]

a pond or a little river i think

[tough hull]

Makes sense

There if there’s too much like idk either the ducks poop or the bread whatever algae starts blooming

That’s why it’s illegal

[tender galleon]

yeah

they are pretty chill in my city

just chilling

[tough hull]

In my city it’s a river though it wouldn’t hurt if they made it illegal

[tender galleon]

minding their own business

[grizzled nebula]

in france i don't think it's illegal to feed them

if it is i can tell u rn it's not changing anything

[magic crown]

So happy i now have my spot for little owl

[grizzled nebula]

i see people feeding every bird

[grizzled nebula]

i might go too

cause if there's little owls there i wanna get pics

[tender galleon]

saw first common kestrel today

[grizzled nebula]

where is it exactly in la crau

[magic crown]

I'll let you search like i did it's part of the game

[grizzled nebula]

[magic crown]

But i can give you something
You can found the spot on Ebird

[grizzled nebula]

?

[magic crown]

Nope

It's in the main plateau

In this area

[tough hull]

Bruh

I’m going to the Ebro delta this year

And I thought man there’s gonna be a lotta birds

But hell no

That’s nothing

My closest single hotspot has 200

[grizzled nebula]

a tu parle de la crau pres de arles 😭

y'a la crau pres de hyeres aussi mdr

fuck that then

[magic crown]

[tough hull]

Aussie,

Australia?

Weird French

[grizzled nebula]

??

[tough hull]

I don’t like French

[grizzled nebula]

[tough hull]

Language so complicated

[grizzled nebula]

y'en a un pres de hyeres aussi 😎

[tough hull]

You write something lik idk car and pronounce it cow

[grizzled nebula]

i pronounce it car cause i'm bilingual

[tough hull]

I hope you got what I meant

Ofc not with the word car

But you pronounce everything differently from what you write

That’s why I love German (except counting system)

Lmao since I started to speak English I lost my ability to count in German

[grizzled nebula]

why is camargue such a fucking cheat code

wtf

it's literally less than 30 mins away from me

[tough hull]

By car or bike?

[grizzled nebula]

car

[tough hull]

K

[grizzled nebula]

wish it was by bike

[tough hull]

How long by bike?

[grizzled nebula]

probably 5h cause it's uphill and i'm not made for that

[tough hull]

lol

Ask the mighty Google Maps

[magic crown]

I spawn in the best place

[tough hull]

My bird hotspot at the Danube is like 25km, I do that in an hour lol

[grizzled nebula]

i am going to cavaliere soon to try and find that eagle owl

[tough hull]

I have never seen an owl lol

[grizzled nebula]

i have but not wild

[tough hull]

Ok true same

I saw them at a zoo a couple of years ago

[tough hull]

I don’t take pics of locked up animals 🙂

Hell yeah imma he at least 20lifers in Spain this year

And I’m going to Stockholm in a month

A bunch new lifers there

[grizzled nebula]

That owl is handicapped so it can’t be released

Well there’s 2 that are handicapped

You’re not allowed to get too close but luckily there’s a place where you can get some nice pics like these

[naive fiber]

Bright day

[dusty fog]

the sun was out if that's what you mean

[naive fiber]

Yeah I just wanted to word differently for some reason

[tough hull]

Ok

[undone slate]

Can a good bokeh effect completely make people disappear?

[dusty fog]

european robins are so much cuter than american ones man

unfair

[tough hull]

American ones have more color though, I like that

[spring vault]

only called robins bcs europeans came here and saw a red bird and was like omg robin

usa has cardinals too those r way cooler

their songs sound like laser weapons

[green canyon]

black birds do too

[green canyon]

jokes on you we get the original kingfisher

[spring vault]

usa has belted kingfisher and those r cool

theyre not colorful but theyre big and a cool shape

[green canyon]

theyre not blue and orange though

[spring vault]

they are

just less vibrant

[green canyon]

im really excited to see what kind of pictures i can get of kingfishers with the a6700

i just need a camo blanket

[grizzled nebula]

😭

(not my pic)

[spring vault]

belted kingfisher calls sound like theyre laughing at you as they fly away

[grizzled nebula]

i love american kingfishers

i'd like to see one

[green canyon]

laughing because you cant get a picture

[spring vault]

yes

they taunt me so

[spring vault]

doesn't have a cool hairdo

[dusty fog]

does europe have barn swallows

[grizzled nebula]

yes

loads

[dusty fog]

top bird

[tough hull]

You mean you came there as Europeans or are you Native American?

[spring vault]

all swallows r peak

[green canyon]

i was about to say aarvs has tons of pictures of them

[tough hull]

Yo @green canyon you got anything with your a6700 yet?

[green canyon]

I sadly dont have a lot of time to go out at the moment

[spring vault]

pipitshi is a good name

[tough hull]

Bro you still got a crazy good pic of a long tailed tit

[spring vault]

I love tits

[green canyon]

theyre super chill in my local forest

[grizzled nebula]

Long tailed tits 🐐

[tough hull]

For me they are rare as heck, I see more woodpeckers than them

I got them once close with my 600mm and that was directly above

[green canyon]

i have a bunch

[tough hull]

So I didn’t get a frontal shot

[tough hull]

I got like barely their beak

[grizzled nebula]

silly birds

[green canyon]

really silly

[tough hull]

And 70% of the bird was just belly

Visible

[green canyon]

the one in this picture kept on hovering in the air like a humming bird

[undone slate]

@grizzled nebula do u think i can see them near my house?

[green canyon]

never seen that