Bird Photography

[tough hull]

How many species do you have logged this year so far?

And how many total

[grizzled nebula]

i've seen a lot more but i cba putting them all there

[tough hull]

Well you can just tell me the number

[naive fiber]

That background dude 😭

You were probably just too far away

[tender galleon]

finally sd card reader arrived

got all the jpgs out of the card

[gilded yarrow]

jpeg shooting

[magic crown]

So excited today to go at the falconry and see Rosbeef flying

[grizzled nebula]

english very much

[magic crown]

Stfu it's morning

My brain is not really braining lmao

[grizzled nebula]

crazy fog this morning

all gone now unfortunately

[dreamy tinsel]

shush you dont see anything

[dreamy tinsel]

yeah and the background was really close to the subject

nah actually its because i dont have an 600 f4 trust

[tender galleon]

i shot jpg and raw

now only raw

[grizzled nebula]

get one

they're cheap

[gilded yarrow]

Ahh

[gilded yarrow]

Yeah good

[dreamy tinsel]

[grizzled nebula]

a crow here would have been perfect

[wide flint]

Just put on a costume and play the crow urself

[grizzled nebula]

Phone wildlife photography 🔥

[tough hull]

Send me the raw I can dxo it for you

If you poor and have no editing software

[tough hull]

Omg there like no noise it’s perfect

[tender galleon]

need help!! which one is better

[charred holly]

Not a fan of removals that change how a photo can be described

[dark ermine]

id say second if it were possible to remove all the darker birds save for the one right behind it, would be cool juxtaposition, but with that overlap of the one behind, it's not worth it imo

[charred holly]

But without context, 1 is better

[tender galleon]

yeah the birds in the back make a kind of cool "story" imo, everyone doing its own thing

but at the same time they are distracting to the eye

im just gonna duplicate it and keep 1 with them and 1 without

[tender galleon]

same swan was in the same spot today ❤️

[dark minnow]

Results from the quick birding outing from yesterday

[tough hull]

Whopper 🍔

[tough hull]

Well I personally would say number 1 because the swan is not really in focus and the geese make it more visible for me

[naive fiber]

Don't we all

[grizzled nebula]

don't we all what

[naive fiber]

Oh

[naive fiber]

Don't we all

No fuck

Ok I'm too tired for this

[grizzled nebula]

want this?

https://tenor.com/view/smug-funny-as-hell-gif-24661655

[naive fiber]

Stop teasing me

But yes

I'll take it with no regrets

[grizzled nebula]

they're decently priced on nikon

[naive fiber]

1000 ish for f mount

I believe

Ik 500mm is 1000

[grizzled nebula]

but even on nikon you ain't getting a good one/one of the level of mine for the price i got it for

[grizzled nebula]

yh but that's the old mid versions

[naive fiber]

Oh I see

[grizzled nebula]

they should still be usable

[naive fiber]

I wouldnt see why they wouldn't be

[grizzled nebula]

they will just have old coatings and outdated autofocus

but IQ should still be very good

this is the one killian has and it's actually very well priced

[naive fiber]

I see

[dreamy tinsel]

[magic crown]

Rosbeef being impatient

[naive fiber]

That reflection in the eye lmao

Nice shot

[magic crown]

yeah it's kinda funny x)

[shut hazel]

Why bite my rv

Theres some pretty plump lookin crows on my shed too

[grizzled nebula]

typical crow

[shut hazel]

real

[left brook]

more zoom means thinner DoF means more blur

its a square relationship too

[undone slate]

thanks

[shut hazel]

boop

[sharp ether]

I want to know this too, I don't have a good explanation

I have to ask gemini

[tough hull]

Northern pintail?

[glossy sage]

@unborn frost #🦀・creatures message

Thoughts?

[shut hazel]

Yes

[undone slate]

i would ask grok

[undone slate]

wow, awesome photo

[undone slate]

Are you editing it in Darktable?

[tough hull]

Background compression or idk

I had 2hours of sleep today I’m not doing good rn

[undone slate]

why? 😭

[shut hazel]

Yes

[undone slate]

Well, I have it installed but I find it impossible to make the masks correctly 😭

[shut hazel]

I have no idea how to use masks yet

[undone slate]

so what do you edit?

[shut hazel]

Stuff

Idk

I just mess around

[tough hull]

That’s classified information I cannot give you cough cough

[undone slate]

ok

[naive fiber]

Updated the feeder now it's lopsided

I seriously hope this doesn't fall

Also needing to swap the feed out for the summer as you aren't meant to use nuts and seeds

[dreamy tinsel]

thats nuts lol

(kill me)

[naive fiber]

I have to buy these now because apparently during the summer birds need protein

And you are spreading a desiese if you aren't

[undone slate]

I've had two bird feeders for a week and not a single bird has come yet. 😭 😭 😭

please help

[naive fiber]

Move the feeder

Birds probably don't see it

What feed are you using

[undone slate]

I can't move it 😭

I showed it in the chat but I'll send it again, just a moment.

This one is for goldfinches.

@naive fiber

[undone slate]

They have to see it, literally up on the building in front of me, at the very top on the roof tiles there are usually sparrows.

If you want, I can show you a picture so you can help me better.

[naive fiber]

Do you have a tree nearby?

[undone slate]

no...

[undone slate]

well yes

Not in my house, but I do have some around

@naive fiber

[grizzled nebula]

Swallows

Imma go look for them tomorrow

[naive fiber]

They probably can't see the food that well

Try put out bigger chunks

Or more in general

[undone slate]

wdym?

[undone slate]

more what?

[undone slate]

I don't know if it's a good idea, but maybe I could put an apple on the wooden base. But if it rains and it goes bad, does that matter?

[grizzled nebula]

@magic crown 👀

[undone slate]

how do you do that?

[grizzled nebula]

https://ebird.org/

[undone slate]

ok

[naive fiber]

They wont eat an apple

[undone slate]

so what do i do

[naive fiber]

Place things like seeds, nuts, mealworms on the floor/around the feeder

It should te them to realise that there is food there

[undone slate]

Should I put chicken feed in the wooden structure?

[naive fiber]

If it's unfortified sure

If it is you can cause kidney damage

[grizzled nebula]

this might be below 1mp

[undone slate]

wdym by unfortified?

[undone slate]

why

[grizzled nebula]

cause it's a huge crop

[naive fiber]

Is this like 200% 😭

[grizzled nebula]

more like 600%

jk yh probs 200%

[naive fiber]

Still looks pretty decent though

[undone slate]

?

[naive fiber]

It looks fine from a distance

[naive fiber]

No added minerals

[undone slate]

I don't think it has

[undone slate]

But is there any way to increase the quality of an image?

[grizzled nebula]

no

well actually there is but it usually gives crappy results

[undone slate]

maybe, yes

[naive fiber]

It doesn't work like

Jarvis enhance

It fills in detail with fake detail

Which usually looks quite bad

[charred holly]

That is still too much for instagram lmao

[tender galleon]

swan yesterday

[undone slate]

where

?

[shut hazel]

earth

[tender galleon]

finland like 2km from my home

[undone slate]

not bad

[tender galleon]

the swan has been at the same spot at the same time for 3 days

[undone slate]

wow

[tender galleon]

it is always so close to the road just posing

[tender galleon]

is the fake light too strong on the 1st pic

[undone slate]

hmm, no

i don't think so

[glossy sage]

Niiice

Swan swam

Swamming swan

[undone slate]

This server is filling up with swans

[naive fiber]

Woah it drank the water

[undone slate]

I'd say the area where I put the feeder is similar to yours. Do you recommend any specific food to attract them better?

[naive fiber]

I have a nest very close by

And bluetits learn very quickly and are also pretty adventurous

My food is less than optimal currently so not really

[undone slate]

Maybe I could put in black sunflower seeds

[glossy sage]

What is that thing coming out its butt

Is that its tail? why it funky

[fast knoll]

nah i think it's a snake

[grizzled nebula]

yh probs a snake

[glossy sage]

O snap

[unborn frost]

I think the composition is well done. The angle could have been better. The tangent with the horizon and the swans beak and neck is personally throwing me off. But thats a personal gripe

I assume the lighting is natural as in overcast with the sun peaking out which gives those nice warm spots. I would have faked some rays to sell it. It looks a bit too forced otherwise with the warm and cool tones on the subject. Idk it's hard to say. I do like the separation with the background, i think pulling it back and desaturating it works reall well. The contrast in the pops of colours on the swan and the dark forest is really nice.

If possible the crop can be adjusted to show more water than forest. The large mass could be reduced IMO.

Otherwise the picture looks great, all of this comes out if you nit-pick.

[astral saffron]

SOOC

[naive fiber]

I need to do some research on this back background stuff it looks great

[astral saffron]

Subject is in the light and the background is dark/hidden by shadows of trees and bushes

It’s was overcast so the light is soft

I think I used -2 on my exposure compensation because otherwise the camera will expose for the entire image rather than my subject

I’ll upload a few edits in #🦀・creatures shortly

This gives you an idea of the light that day

[dreamy tinsel]

no bird within 0,5km of me it seems

[astral saffron]

Why do you limit yourself to 500 meters

That sounds like a terrible excuse

[dreamy tinsel]

im sitting at my usual spot but no birds want to go near me

should i try to relocate?

[naive fiber]

Thanks

[grizzled nebula]

yes

back to camargue on tuesday

spoonbiils have arrived so i can't wait

bee eaters too

[dreamy tinsel]

i give up

i must be doing something wrong

[undone slate]

o

[grizzled nebula]

You aint gonna get loads of pics if you always stay at the same place

[grizzled nebula]

o

[undone slate]

I think I'll go photograph birds at the river today and see what I find...

[grizzled nebula]

Gl

[undone slate]

thx

I don't know if I'll be able to see any cormorants or herons up close.

[dreamy tinsel]

whenever i go somewhere the birds notice me, fly off and never come back

[grizzled nebula]

Smalls birds arent easy to take pics of

[dreamy tinsel]

i figured lol

better luck next time ig

[naive fiber]

I need to clean my window and set my tripod up again today

Some birds just aren't so photogenic though

This one was very vocal

[undone slate]

what do they eat?

[naive fiber]

Basically everything nut or protein related

[undone slate]

like what?

[naive fiber]

Currently I have pecans walnuts and deshelled sunflower seeds

[charred holly]

Fuck that shit, I am buying a 200-600

[undone slate]

nice

[tough hull]

Does Finland have many whopper swans?

I have never seen one in my life

[tough hull]

Wait what’s that

[tough hull]

True

[tough hull]

Don’t you already have one?

[undone slate]

Do you have any tips for photographing birds on the river?

[tough hull]

What kind of birds

[undone slate]

The Fragas do Eume Natural Park (Galicia) is home to more than 100 bird species, with forest birds and birds of prey being particularly prominent in its Atlantic canyon. The most notable species include the griffon vulture, goshawk, sparrowhawk, eagle owl, great grey shrike, green woodpecker, Eurasian nuthatch, and kingfisher, with early morning observation being the best.
Featured Birds in Fragas do Eume:
Raptors: Goshawk, sparrowhawk, peregrine falcon, griffon vulture (visible in summer), and the Eurasian eagle owl, which inhabits the rocky cliffs.
Forest Birds (Oak Groves/Woodland): Common crossbill, Eurasian nuthatch, Iberian chiffchaff, great grey shrike, woodlark, green woodpecker.
River Birds: European dipper and common kingfisher.
The Fragas do Eume are considered one of the best-preserved Atlantic riparian forests in Europe, providing a rich habitat for biodiversity.

@tough hull

[tough hull]

Well you wanna get them in the water or flying around there or sitting on branches

Because for flying idk how to get proper shots if it’s not when they are taking off or landing

[undone slate]

yes

[tough hull]

Which one

[undone slate]

both

[charred holly]

nope, 70-350

[tough hull]

What camera?

[charred holly]

a6700

[tough hull]

Ok

200-600 very good

I love it

[charred holly]

Yup and cheap too

[tough hull]

But now that I have it I am starting to want a 300-600 f4

Because damn the light

[charred holly]

Who doesn't lol

[tough hull]

Fair

Canon 1200mm f9

[charred holly]

To be fair, it weights and costs as much a truck

[tough hull]

Yeah

[tough hull]

Or f8 idk

Imagine pairing that lens with a crop sensor camera

1800mm

[grizzled nebula]

kestrel holding a snake i think

[charred holly]

At this point, atmospheric haze would just negate any advantage of the focal range

[tough hull]

Ok. Looked like it had a tail lmao

[tough hull]

Not if you get close enough

Oh yeah put a macro adapter on and you’ll see the cells of the bird

[charred holly]

Minimal focus distance has to be huge too

[grizzled nebula]

taken with 600 F/4 🙂

[grizzled nebula]

it's not too bad iirc

eh 2.4m

worse than i thought

100-500 is 0.8m at 100mm and 1.2m at 500mm

but like for wildlife 2.4m is nothing

[charred holly]

I was half considering the Sigma 500mm 5.6 some times ago, but more than 3m for minimal focus range is a show stopper

[tough hull]

4.3 at 1200mm f8 lens

[charred holly]

Very close birds are more common than I expected when I started this hobby

[grizzled nebula]

uncropped 4.3m min focus distance

[grizzled nebula]

i could've goten closer but there would've been stuff in the way

that was maybe 6-7m away

[undone slate]

I take a picture of any bird I see, no matter what condition it's in.

idk

[tough hull]

But it’s 600mm not 500mm

[charred holly]

Insane scenary

[grizzled nebula]

200-600 is 600mm..

[tough hull]

At water, you need a telephoto if you cat get close

[grizzled nebula]

i'm just showing that 2.4m is nothing for wildlife

[tough hull]

It was bout this

[grizzled nebula]

oh yh also

[charred holly]

I heard online it was actually 560mm, but it might be wrong

[grizzled nebula]

but like 3m is not bad either

[grizzled nebula]

it is at min focus distance

but it gets closer to 600mm the further you get from your subject

[charred holly]

right

[tough hull]

Huh

[grizzled nebula]

100-500 can do some sort of macro

[grizzled nebula]

it's weird but it's also true

[tough hull]

Wait I got a nice shot of an endangered flower recently

[grizzled nebula]

a 600mm F/4 will look more zoomed in than a 200-600

[tough hull]

K

[grizzled nebula]

here's an example

caused by focus breathing

iirc

[naive fiber]

That's a bigger difference than I expected

[grizzled nebula]

icl canon should've made the body longer for aesthetic reasons cause that long tube looks so weird

[undone slate]

?

[tough hull]

I need to get a prime

Holy tha explains why my 50mm doesn’t look much different than 70mm on 70-300

[undone slate]

wdym by that?

[grizzled nebula]

he's saying that when there's water and you can't get close u need a telephoto lens

[undone slate]

yeah but i have a compact camera

[grizzled nebula]

get a good one then 🙂

you have 720mm on ur cam but the quality is awful at that focal length

[undone slate]

yea but sometimes i get good photos

[tough hull]

Should I do “retro” bird photography with my camcorder?

[undone slate]

what's retro?

[tough hull]

Old aka low quality style whatever idk

Not low quality

But my cam is

[undone slate]

but your camera is good

[tough hull]

Not my camcorder

[grizzled nebula]

it's less visible on smaller lenses than telephoto

also primes have better light transmission

[tough hull]

It has 1200mm ff equivalent lens though

[grizzled nebula]

so a 500 F/4 prime at F/7.1 will be able to be at 1/1600s and get the same light as a 100-500 at F/7.1 at 1/1000s

[undone slate]

?

[grizzled nebula]

that's mostly to do with lens design but primes are made better for this

[grizzled nebula]

talking to eric

[undone slate]

ok

[tough hull]

Hell yeah I got wind from front and I can see a shelduck

That thing won’t see me coming

Broo

I was so close

About to take a photo

But a couple of hikers went by and the shelduck got scared

And I couldn’t get it

[grizzled nebula]

i really want to see one

seems like it wont be too hard

[naive fiber]

All my hotspots are ducks lmao

[tough hull]

Alright

In reach again

Just need to get through the grass without the duck noticing

It needs to look away from me

Because I can tell it’s on alert or whatever you say

Stupid grass go away

BRO WTF

SOMEONE IS SPYING ON ME WITH A DRONE

AND I am 100% sure they saw me because they circled me and then I gave hand signals so they move tf away and not scare the duck

[tender galleon]

they fly by my house and stay for a few weeks every fall and spring

[tough hull]

Nice

[acoustic hull]

Why do you call that spying xd just someone flying around a nice place

Annoying for sure but i doubt they target you big time. Or im wrong and they want to steal your camera

[tough hull]

I think they think I’m spying

Because the shelduck is in the middle of me and the village

So I point in direction of houses

My phone can see the duck

[dark ermine]

the RWBLs pose in the first photo is awesome

[tough hull]

No way

Shelducks came here where I was trying to get some kestrel

[undone slate]

nice photo!

[tough hull]

Af struggling a bit

But I got some nice pics

[tough hull]

Thx

[undone slate]

What kind of duck is it?

[tough hull]

Ruddy shelducks

I hate my life

[grizzled nebula]

out of focus?

[tough hull]

But I got something a lot better now

Yes

And I just found their nest

Some crows attacked them

[grizzled nebula]

average crow behaviour

[tough hull]

They only attacked one though

And then the kestrel struck and the crows left it alone

Never seen this color on a kestrel before

[grizzled nebula]

looks normal to me

just the lighting

[tough hull]

No it wasn’t brown

I didn’t only take pics

I also watched it

[unborn frost]

Eric, do you go out with any kind of camo. Either a camera sleeve or clothes etc. or do you think it doesn't really matter when shooting birds of prey?

[tough hull]

I think it does but it depends on your terrain

[grizzled nebula]

they are white under the wings

[tough hull]

Because on a flat meadow it doesn’t mstter

[tough hull]

Usually it’s not that extreme

At least here

Extreme white/bright

[grizzled nebula]

they're like this here for me

[tough hull]

For me they are very dark usually

[grizzled nebula]

i warmed it up a bit for some reason

but it's white

[tough hull]

Ok

[naive fiber]

Shutter speed ☹️

[grizzled nebula]

?

it looks fine

[naive fiber]

No I'll send the full Res in a sec

The wing is blurry

Aperture actually but still

[tough hull]

Ok now that I’m home I can do further explanation. I think if your camera had like colors that really don’t fit in the environment it may be a problem, but only if you are fitting in, otherwise it’s you that is too visible. I haven’t tried it out myself yet with camo though

[naive fiber]

When you don't pay attention to the settings

[tough hull]

Same

My shot could be sharp if aperture would be f11

[grizzled nebula]

unfortunate

[grizzled nebula]

my shots are razor sharp at F/4

i think u meant more in focus

[tough hull]

Yeah

[tough hull]

Btw you use a tripod or how the heck you holding that giant lens so steady

[grizzled nebula]

i almost never use a tripod

IS helps

i'm also always at 1/1000 or more

well pretty much always

[tough hull]

1/2000 is what I use for birds

[grizzled nebula]

i sometimes go up to 1/5000 for small birds

[tough hull]

What I mean is getting the bird in frame and holding it because usually they move hella unpredictable and go to the sides and stuff and handheld I’m struggling to counter that

[tough hull]

I usually go as high as situation allows except if I wanna get motion blurred background

And I mean I use 1/2000 and if I don’t have to push my iso up much I go up until my iso is at 1000 or something

Because yes I have had days where I was able to use 1/8000

[charred holly]

Eh... not my best bird in flight but could have been worse

[tough hull]

Why does it look so soft?

[charred holly]

Very high noise because of the bright sky

Noise reduction tries its best

[grizzled nebula]

In my garden so on a tripod

[tough hull]

I never use tripod lol

I just use monopod

[magic crown]

What about nothing ?

[gilded yarrow]

You can push iso to like 6400 or higher if the bird is big enough in the frame

[tough hull]

Yeah that’s the thing flying birds are too far away for 99% of the shots

And 1/2000 is usually enough

[grizzled nebula]

fr

[gilded yarrow]

Yeah, getting bif shots close up is hard

[gilded yarrow]

yea

[tough hull]

when I bring out newspaper before i cant bring anything but my cam which i did today

BUT MY DUMB AH FORGOT THAT CAP ON CAM WASNT ON AND TOUCHED THE SENSOR AND HAD NO CLEANING KIT WITH HIM

at least i can remove it

[glossy sage]

Dang your lens has some issues I can see. If you just send it to me I'll fix it for you

[grizzled nebula]

also u just made me notice this shit

[green canyon]

lol

what happened there

[grizzled nebula]

i just put the defringe slider to the max without adjusting properly cause i couldn't be arsed

[gilded yarrow]

Bruh why do you have your cam sitting around with nothing covering the sensor LMAO

[tough hull]

I cant fit my cam with lens in the bag and I was on a call while preparing my stuff,grabbed my lens put it in the bag after I put the back cap on and I forgot the cap on the camera and grabbed in it

[glossy sage]

Wrong order of operations

When taking cam off lens

1. Camera body immediately gets set facing down if the cap isn't in hand
2. Still facing down, raise up and cap it
3. Cap lens
   

[green canyon]

my lens is more important than my body

[glossy sage]

Your lens can be cleaned much easier

[fast knoll]

damn bruh if i touched the sensor my soul would leave my body

[grizzled nebula]

touching my 600 F/4's front element makes me wanna harm myself

it's not easy to clean either

[fast knoll]

yea it's scary

im afraid of dragging a dust particle on the lens when im using a microfiber cloth

prob harmless but im paranoid

[dreamy tinsel]

whats the command again?

!touch

[primal lake]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/728905379274162180/1205677588903764049/xpro2touch2.mov

[dreamy tinsel]

holy shit first try

[fast knoll]

oh my

[green canyon]

ced activities

[tough hull]

Guess what I do 99% of time

But as I said

I was in a call

[tough hull]

Same

If my body breaks I can get a cheaper one earlier than a new lens

[tough hull]

There is a reason why I put protection filters on my lenses

I am often walking through dust

I don’t want that on my lens

[grizzled nebula]

Find me a 150mm protection filter

[left brook]

any IDing?

need to go back with cam next time

[glossy sage]

I carry a spray bottle of distilled water

Rocket air blaster, distilled water, and a pack of micro fiber cleaning ezpz for lens

[fast knoll]

where do u live

looks like a yellow crowned night heron to me

[left brook]

Indiana

[left brook]

rare?

[fast knoll]

no idea

but quite certain about ycnh

here's one of mine

[left brook]

nice

how do you carry cam around

[fast knoll]

i have a sling

but my camera is super light anyway

lens too

[grizzled nebula]

100-500 is goated

this was a young heron i saw in the campsite at the bottom of my street

got chased by magpies 💔

[tough hull]

Damn right it’s f4

[fast knoll]

also no way im dropping 13k on a lens just to limit its peak sharpness by adding a filter

lens hood is good enough for me

[tough hull]

Who says sharpness gets affected

You gotta get a good filter

[fast knoll]

uhh like most photographers

[grizzled nebula]

i mean it wasn't 12K

[fast knoll]

lol

u get the idea

[finite flower]

i find 7.1 at 500mm is p slow

[grizzled nebula]

it's brighter than the tamron 150-500 and sigma 150-600 i believe

[grizzled nebula]

i have a protection filter stuck on my 100-500 :/

[finite flower]

150-500 for E is 6.7

[grizzled nebula]

yh but the T stop is worse

[finite flower]

fair

all these nonsense and still 600/4 clears

100-500 is a nice landsxape lens actually

24-105 + 100-500

[finite flower]

the 150-500 ngl is a pretty ass lens

[fast knoll]

damn what happened

[fast knoll]

i agree

that's a big con

but it's still quite usable

modern cameras and denoise

nice backgrounds too sometimes lol

[grizzled nebula]

The tamron 150-600 has a t-stop of 7.9

[remote remnant]

what the fuck lol

[grizzled nebula]

idk it just won't come off

[gilded yarrow]

Lmao Ive been using the same micro fiber cloth for months now

[gilded yarrow]

putting a uv filter on your tele is retarded

Its stupid even with small lenses unless you film dirt bikes in the desert or something, but with a tele itll fuck up your quality even more

[fast knoll]

Lmao

[glossy sage]

The sharpness is pretty mid past 550mm and the AF is rather slow

I wanna get rid of mine for the RF 100-500

[spring vault]

birds spotted

[dreamy tinsel]

do i take my uv filter off?

[undone slate]

@naive fiber When it rains, do you leave the bird food in your feeder or do you change it?

[glossy sage]

Birds be wild animals bro bro

They'll eat it wet if they are hungry

[grizzled nebula]

small birds like rain

well the ones in my garden do

[grizzled nebula]

yh

the 100-500 is brighter, sharper and has much better AF

[naive fiber]

I take the feeder down usually

Birds don't come when it rains

I don't want to deal with wasting food

[green canyon]

chaffinches have found my feeders

they kept coming in the last 2 weeks or so
never seen them before that

and now that spring is here birds are way more common

i get some like every 5-10 minutes

[naive fiber]

Aww

I need to work out when the fuck I'll start attracting other birds apart from bluetits and great tits

[green canyon]

I get blue tits, great tits, chaffinches, European robins, doves, crows, sparrows

[grizzled nebula]

Have a lot more

These are unedited

[undone slate]

I know that, but if I leave the seeds wet for too long they can get parasites and bacteria and become poison instead of food. 💀

[undone slate]

I've never taken pictures of birds in flight, but it seems difficult because you have to follow the bird with the camera very quickly.

[undone slate]

Howw?

Could you give me a list of the food you use?

[naive fiber]

yeah thats why you clean the feeder

[undone slate]

yes

At the moment, two sparrows are coming very close to the feeder because I spilled some feed on the ground, but so far they haven't eaten from the feeder, I don't know why; they're supposed to have a good sense of smell and all that.

I don't know if any birds other than sparrows will come to the feeder; it's possible that goldfinches will come in a month or so when I put the thistles in, but for now I doubt anything else will come.

[naive fiber]

few reasons

going to a feeder takes courage

[undone slate]

hmm maybe

[naive fiber]

it may be too close to a wall for their liking

or they dont feel safe there

[undone slate]

The feeder is among the ivy; they should like that.

I put out two feeders, one that looks good and has a water bowl that they haven't used yet, but I hope they'll end up coming next week.

[undone slate]

@green canyon

[green canyon]

Sunflower hearts, dried larvae and peanuts

crows prefer walnuts though

[undone slate]

So many birds in so few feeders, impressive.

[naive fiber]

opposite

they hate bushes

[undone slate]

Even if I do the same as you, they probably won't come to me. I think those birds are around here, but they've never been near my house or close by.

[undone slate]

really?

[naive fiber]

yes

predators hide in them

[undone slate]

I have no predators in the ivy

[naive fiber]

yes

but they dont know that

[undone slate]

But do you think they'll be able to get used to it?

I say this because those sparrows are the same ones that are always hidden among a pile of tall grass.

[naive fiber]

they probably wont come

if they do then maybe

[undone slate]

But the other feeder I have, I'm sure it will.

this one

If I put thistles on the ivy and the goldfinches go there, will they still go to the feeder?

[green canyon]

huh

no

[undone slate]

um

[green canyon]

birds here almost exclusively go into bushes

[undone slate]

yes

@green canyon do u have a photo of a bird in your feeder?

[naive fiber]

In my experience they dislike feeders near bushes

[green canyon]

i can try to take one but not right now

[green canyon]

i should maybe clarify i dont mean small bushes

like knee height

more like 2m bushes

[naive fiber]

oh yes thats fine yeah

[undone slate]

ok

[undone slate]

Well, my ivy must be about 2 meters tall or something like that.

[dark ermine]

also sparrows are primarily ground-feeding birds, they will go to feeders eventually if there's nothing else but they prefer the ground

all you should need to really do is once you have your feeders set up, just leave them in the same spot and be consistent with filling them

once they realize its a static spot for food, they will come. and once you attract a few, you attract many

[undone slate]

yep

[undone slate]

But I prefer not to fill it completely because if the seeds spoil, it's wasted food.

[dark ermine]

you can get no waste seed, hull-less. but also seed takes a long time to spoil, even with rain. as long as you don't see mold its ok

can always start with a little then increase as your population grows

[undone slate]

oh ok

[undone slate]

There are usually 10 or 20 sparrows in the grass next to my house. I don't know if they'll ever come; so far only 2 have come.

[dark ermine]

they will 🙂 just need to be consistent

[undone slate]

yep

There are goldfinches near my house, but not very close. If I put out some dried thistles, do you think they'll come soon?

[dark ermine]

yes they love thistle, but also do you have chickadees in your area? if you do, they will help. they call other birds when they find a food source

[tender galleon]

birb

also saw this fella

[grizzled nebula]

Swallows are so difficult to track

[dark ermine]

they so are. i found a bridge of them and i still don't want to look at the photos because im sure i got 0 / 500

[undone slate]

yes

[naive fiber]

took long enough to take this

shame that the background is a house

I will try to make that less colourful

[undone slate]

@analog rivet do u have any bird photo with your z6 III?

[green canyon]

if you make it more blurry and shift it towards yellow it might look like a sunset

[naive fiber]

I could try that

[dreamy tinsel]

bros on a movie set

[analog rivet]

its all i shoot birds with mainly

outside a few rare cases of dslr birding

[dreamy tinsel]

btw lens > body

[naive fiber]

Yeah you obsess over the body a lot, tbh body doesn't matter all too much

Obviously like a budget 15y old body is much worse than a current gen flagship

But say a 4y difference usually doesn't matter all to much body wise

[fast knoll]

also z6iii is good lol

[naive fiber]

It's a great body yeah

[dreamy tinsel]

yuh

[tough hull]

the way i photographed swallows was i looked for a point where they were landing and flying off of, and then waited until one got close and then took photos in burdt lol

[tough hull]

Z6III wont give good bird shots when you only got a wide angle

[fast knoll]

if youre getting a z6iii the equivalent lens in that price point is prob the 180-600

[undone slate]

?

wdym by wide angle?

[undone slate]

can you show some of them?

[tough hull]

everything up to like idk 50mm someting although 50mm is already zoomed in a lot

[undone slate]

But the Z6 III is one of the best cameras available for birds and astrophotography.

i think

[analog rivet]

randoms shots from my folder

but all z6iii and g1 150-600

[undone slate]

wow, pretty good quality

But are you still using the Z6 III or are you using the Z7 now?

[analog rivet]

z6iii still, z7 isnt here yet

and actually neither is the z6iii, had to send it for repairs

using the d7200 for the time being

[undone slate]

And you recommend I buy a used Z6 III? @analog rivet

[tacit gazelle]

Goose butt

[analog rivet]

id always argue for used unless you can find new for the same price

i paid $2k for mine brand new non grey market

[undone slate]

But could a used camera have a faulty sensor?

[analog rivet]

VERY low chance

chance so low that its not even worth worrying about

[undone slate]

nice

I found the body of the Z6 III for 719 euros/dollars

aah no

this is the z6 II

[naive fiber]

There are more worries than a faulty sensor

[undone slate]

yep

[tender galleon]

phone cam so ahh why didnt i take my camera with me

this like the perfect moment 2 crows kissing or idk

[undone slate]

💀

[green canyon]

could you not

[tacit gazelle]

Sorry Is it too explicit

Wait I didn't ask for consent from the geese

[undone slate]

😭

[grizzled nebula]

Heavy crop on phone

[hidden wyvern]

Demon goose (mini)

[green canyon]

thats nice

bokeh

[grizzled nebula]

gonna try to get some better ones tomorrow

[fast knoll]

Lesser goldfinch nest 😭😭

Baby is quite big ngl

[spring vault]

my gallery pic got gallery picked

[tacit gazelle]

W

It's such a crazy photo

[grizzled nebula]

"Bruh"

[grizzled nebula]

saw one get attacked by a pigeon but missed it

[shut hazel]

sad

it blurry

saw this thing for the first time too

[fast knoll]

spotted towhee!

theyre loud

hopefully u can't tell i missed focus

[grizzled nebula]

i can but still nice

[fast knoll]

NOOOO

here's an in focus one haha

[grizzled nebula]

sharp

2 more days until i get to take pics of bee eaters and spoonbills!

well 1 if you're already counting monday as today

[shut hazel]

i see

[unborn frost]

One more pop edit, and this shot I caught as these ducks moved from one pond to another. Thought it looked cute at the time c:
Feedback appreciated on the second one. Do you think the lighting is a bit much? I pushed things to make it seem more like a scene than a photograph, if that makes sense

[shut hazel]

todays birds

[tacit gazelle]

Second to last is my fav

[potent zealot]

insane amount of tree swallows today

[shut hazel]

oo

my tree swallow photos turned out bad today

i need a better spot

[shut hazel]

these birds always just hit such nice poses in the trees

great for photos

[narrow crag]

That's not that bad for a teleprime

600's are all >4m

[narrow crag]

Northeastern US?

I'm gonna guess New Jersey somewhere

[shut hazel]

nah

vancouver canada

[narrow crag]

Oh wow

Same birds as here lol

[shut hazel]

lol

[shut hazel]

it was kinda bad weather today ngl

atleast for some birds i wanted to see

[narrow crag]

Apparently a flock of Glossy Ibis flew in right after I left this morning

Maybe they'll still be around tomorrow morning....

[shut hazel]

pretty cloudy but better than rain

[shut hazel]

o

ive never seen an iris before

iibis

[narrow crag]

Only the 4th ever spring-time record of them in this state

💀

And I missed it by an hour

[shut hazel]

tragedy

youll get them someday

[narrow crag]

Maybe tomorrow 🤞

[undone slate]

One question: how do you photograph birds in flight that fly very fast? Do you put the camera on a tripod and follow it, but it's still difficult to keep track of it with the camera?

[undone slate]

I've never seen a hummingbird in my life. Are they as common in America as sparrows are here?

[fast knoll]

theyre quite common

if u go somewhere with a lot of flowers youll prob see some here

[undone slate]

wow

In Europe, I don't know if there are any birds that we only have here and not in America.

Perhaps the hoopoe?

[finite flower]

handheld is easier

handheld + dotsight

some people in this server absolutely hates on dotsights but once you use it, you cant go back

@spring vault you have a dotsight right

[narrow crag]

i just handhold even at 1200mm

up tp about 600mm it should be pretty easy with a few hours of total practice

practice keeping your eye on the subject and bringing the viewfinder straight up to your eye while still tracking the bird

[finite flower]

thats not why i use a dot sight tbh

its the fact that theres delay + fov is reduced at 600mm or wtv super tele

and tracking a bird with a dotsight is alot easier esp if the bird is fast

like if you are asking me to photograph big birds in flight like eagles or storks its not hard

try kingfisher dives or flycatchers, practically impossible

[narrow crag]

i mean yeah some are hard but i can get swifts/swallows with 600. not sure a dot sight would really help since i wouldnt be seeing where the AF is

[astral saffron]

It’s a fire photo. Normally sky photos are meh but the conditions are incredible

[grizzled nebula]

keeno!!

You got nice weather, nice sunet and very nice camera

tomorrow i'm going to camargue and i hope i'll finally be able to get some nice sunset photography

[grizzled nebula]

🙂

i need to re edit this

cause this edit is quite shit

[grizzled nebula]

oh well no swallows today

[grizzled nebula]

better edit

[green canyon]

guys

a6700 today

probably

ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

[green canyon]

we dont have any in europe
theyre so cute 😭

i just saw a dunnock in my garden

have seen that one before either

[dusty fog]

sorry bro 🙏

get well soon

[green canyon]

too poor for z6iii bro

[spring vault]

a7v when

[green canyon]

neva

a6700 + 200-600 -> z6iii + 180-600 / 400 4.5 2x tc

[dusty fog]

just get Z50ii now then

[spring vault]

get a cam with precap

[dusty fog]

raw precap or no shoot 🔥

[green canyon]

not worth switching then

180-600 is like 1800€

[dusty fog]

u alreayd have 200-600 i guess

180-600 not very great on apsc anyway, 100-400 better

[green canyon]

ill switch one day

but a6700 + 200-600 is still great

alright im getting it now

gotta drive all the way to cologne though

ugh

[fast knoll]

lmaoo

how much?

[green canyon]

1440 for it and the sigma 18-50

wait no

let me recalculate

1480

but thats without trading in my Zve10

and im selling old gear

[fast knoll]

viewfinder gonna be so nice

[dreamy tinsel]

that seems like a pretty nice deal

[green canyon]

yeah it really is

if i were to sell the sigma lens (which i wont because i need it to replace my kit lens lol), it'd be 1000

so cheap

[dreamy tinsel]

kit lence fahhh 💔

damn congrats tho (im jealous)

[green canyon]

it served me well

overhated ngl

[dreamy tinsel]

(im lwk running a kit lence)

[green canyon]

lence

@dreamy tinsel holy shit i found peak

#🛬・arrivals message

[dreamy tinsel]

thats the big og himself

[dark minnow]

Siggy 18-50 is great, I love it

[green canyon]

will definitely help me with milky way shots

less noisy sensor, less vignette, less distortion, better sharpness and f/2.8 thus lower iso

[naive fiber]

robin

they have the american robin but they are completely unrelated

they look nothing alike apart from colours

[grizzled nebula]

the swallows actually came back but a bit later than yesterday

should've brought the 600 cause i was at 8000 iso F/7.1 and that was still not correctly exposed

[sharp ether]

there are a lot of birds that are in Europe that are not in America

[dark minnow]

It’s really fun but on apsc it’s pretty tight

[green canyon]

its fine for me

a6700 secured

[grizzled nebula]

getting swallows in focus is so difficult

[green canyon]

first one is very nice

[grizzled nebula]

i need to run it through dxo later

i got 3 keepers out of 190 pics today

[dark ermine]

what were your settings for these? shutter speed

i biffed my swallow shots so im curious lol

[grizzled nebula]

1/3200 and 1/4000

Idk the exact shutter speed for those

[dark ermine]

okay yeah i forgot to change it and had it on 1600 lmao

[grizzled nebula]

3200 is the bare minimum

[dark ermine]

yeah makes sense, those bois are fast

[grizzled nebula]

I wish I had 45mp for these

[grizzled nebula]

got some pretty good results with DXO for these 2

[remote remnant]

r5

[grizzled nebula]

soon hopefully

R5II

[fast knoll]

yea i would jump straight to r5ii if u can

[dreamy tinsel]

ay thats pretty good

[fast knoll]

athat's pretty good

[grizzled nebula]

CAMARGUE TOMORROW!!

i can't wait to photograph the spoonbills

[undone slate]

These are not my photos, but it is the model I am going to print (3D PRINTER ) for the bird feeder that I will put in a tree.

[grizzled nebula]

rare black stork too

[tough hull]

@green canyon hi a6700

[tough hull]

Without zooming they look good, very good

[dark ermine]

this is really cool but can PLA withstand direct sunlight for long?

wondering if it would start to crumble after some time

looks like PETG is the answer

[undone slate]

i'm gonna use PTEG

[undone slate]

yep

[glossy sage]

You're convincing me to get one hah

But the GOAT Simon Dentremont doesn't seem to use one so hmm

[fast knoll]

interesting

some cameras have blackout free viewfinder

so youre actually seeing the scene in real time

but i bet it would be helpful for cameras without that feature

[glossy sage]

R5 II

I have high speed display on and the blackout is so short I hardly even notice, personally. I used to shoot without it, didnt know the option was there, and complained in gear chat about the blackout

[fast knoll]

i shoot electronic so there isn't a real blackout

but it's always one frame behind

[glossy sage]

R8 is electronic too, I definitely have a blackout. Very noticeable when high speed display is off

And with wildlife ur already shooting super fast so its not crazy long tho either way

[unborn frost]

I think this is an Eurasian Kestrel. Just taking this was a pain; there was a strong wind, so it was difficult to brace against it. I had to crank up the SS to 3000ish just to get a stable shot handheld. Failed to track it as it took off

Any tips for shooting in windy conditions? I assume standing towards the direction, but then you might not get the right angle.

[glossy sage]

3000 is good for birbs so I don't recommend much different

I start at 4000 and lower as ISO climbs if it climbs

Also thats really clear nice pic

[unborn frost]

Thanks, I've been seeing a range of opinions about shutter speed. In particular, when it comes to perched birds. So I start at the low end and get frustrated thinking going high is a mistake. cause the bird isn't moving.

Thinking about it after what you've said. It's all about exposure, so as long as the ISO isn't all out of whack, going high to get a steady/sharp shot is okay. Sounds basic, but after consuming a whole bunch of videos, etc., it does throw you off.

Also tried to change up with camera angles. May have to invest in a plate. Overall, quite awkward to operate the camera from the top not to mention trying to keep anything in frame!

[fast knoll]

do u have a flip screen?

[unborn frost]

yeah, I have the R7. I flipped the screen out for these and had the lens sitting on the shoe mount. The finicky part was operating the camera itself. pressing the focus/tracking buttons and the trigger button

[glossy sage]

You can enable touch and drag focus so you can tap the screen to focus instead

Also sounds like you're already using back button focus? Once you're locked on (blue) you can let go, it'll track the subject if you don't move it like crazy

[finite flower]

i dont care about what others use or dont use

if it benefits me, ill use it

[fast knoll]

which would you guys pick for a "bird behavior" contest?

carrying nesting material vs pooping

i feel like artistically the second one is amazing

[narrow crag]

Left

[spring vault]

lotta birds

[fast knoll]

damn seriously? everyone picking left

[tacit gazelle]

I would pick left because it displays more of a bird trait

Like everyone shits and pisses yo

Yk

[fast knoll]

damn u guys spitting

alright ima do left

[tough hull]

Left

[narrow crag]

This is a feature of stacked sensors

[narrow crag]

Good mentality ❤️

I'm not hating on it at all. Just saying I don't use one personally

[gilded yarrow]

Same

Apart from ai

fuck ai

[dusty fog]

fuck calculators, i do math the real way

[grizzled nebula]

6+7

[unborn frost]

Oh i see. I thought you had to hold it down while taking the picture. Does that work for eye focus too?

Or, do you need to have the subject tracking on for it to be continuous. When i release the tracking the blue disappears so i thought its stopped tracking

[grizzled nebula]

Wtf ive just seen over 100 glossy ibis

[dark minnow]

So apparently there’s a Crested caracara in my province

It’s 3 hrs away tho

[tough cipher]

new pokemon but it was too far away for any kind of decent photo

[magic crown]

the background omg there's something to do

[tough hull]

=11

[green canyon]

the a6700 af is amazing

[grizzled nebula]

Glossy ibis

[tender galleon]

lots of bird

[glossy sage]

I need a sun cover shirt thats not bright blue

Maybe thats why birds avoid me like the plague even if I crawl

Its been through some stuff its so stained but still bright

[tough hull]

Build a ghillie Suit

Or buy One

Or Go to my Friends House and steal it

[glossy sage]

Bet, address and are they armed?

[tough hull]

His suit cost 150€ or more

[tough hull]

Adress I give you for 50€

They always leave their door open, I can tell you when they ain’t Home

[glossy sage]

What if I sell him his traitorous friends name for 100 euro

[tough hull]

What if this is a plot twist and I’m telling him and he is gonna get robbed and demand 50€ from him and he will then demand 100€ from you or will call the police on you

Hahahaha

[glossy sage]

Wow cant believe I didnt see that coming

Gg

[tough hull]

Well sadly to late now

Now we all know

[charred holly]

Stilts are scary birds...

[glossy sage]

Sitting outside with a camera: no birds

Sitting outside without a camera:

[grizzled nebula]

Tomorrow im going propper birding

Got some sunset pics to edit

[tough hull]

Blue jays?

[glossy sage]

Yes

I want a good pic of them flying but these birds out here are way too smart man

Can't seem to get close

Gotta get a backyard bird blind

[magic crown]

i found the ultimate cheat code for owls
i ordered a thermal scope

https://tenor.com/view/ascension-sponge-bob-gif-15077046

[spring vault]

I find that in public parks the birds are a lot more used to people so ur able to be a lot closer without bothering them

[magic crown]

yeah for passerines it's better and sometimes with luck some raptors

[glossy sage]

Parks near here are super tree dense with little/no open areas

Not a great environment for birds to actually hang out in except little tiny common birds like warblers

[naive fiber]

Parks all have super high trees here

So also not easy