Bird Photography

[grizzled nebula]

on your camera it won't be easy

[undone slate]

what do you call expensive?

I don't know whether to spend time editing the photos or just wait until I get the Z6 III when I buy it.

[left brook]

i think ive asked before but this wasnt a hide or anything right

[left brook]

id honestly wait, but hang around here and ask lots of questions and learn in the meantime

[grizzled nebula]

well i use 2 lenses for wildlife, one normally costs 7K euros but i got it for 3.9K and the other over costs 2K but even if you have gear like this it won't instantly improve your photos

[grizzled nebula]

nope

[left brook]

damn

[undone slate]

7k???

[left brook]

aarvs im gonna get the 600/4 tc to 1-up you someday

[undone slate]

Is your lens better, or the Nikon Nikkor Z 180-600mm f/5.6-6.3 VR?

[left brook]

his is a 600mm f4, so it doesnt zoom from 180mm-599mm, but its much sharper (IS II version), and wider aperture at f4

[naive fiber]

Yes

[undone slate]

how

[naive fiber]

Uhh I can't remember

It'll be possible

[undone slate]

someone

[grizzled nebula]

it's much better but the 180-600 has the advantage of being able to zoom

[left brook]

probably i guess

just leave the feeder they'll find it

and dont have the dog near the feeder lol

[undone slate]

I have a feeder where my dog ​​is, but it's high up, and the plants are too.

[left brook]

yeah but birds arent gonna go to a feeder with a dog nearby

[grizzled nebula]

I was this close to it

[undone slate]

when they get used to it if

[wide flint]

Depends on the kind of contest and the level in there, but I'd say probably not

[grizzled nebula]

i actually managed to get closer than i was in that image

[undone slate]

wow

[undone slate]

In what way is it better?

[grizzled nebula]

it's much sharper and i don't need to stop down the aperture to get it to max sharpness, lets more light in and has better background separation

[tender galleon]

its the finnish nature photo of the year, i submit those into the teens category

[undone slate]

What is the best Nikon Z-mount lens?

[grizzled nebula]

no sharpness improvement between F/4 and F/8

[grizzled nebula]

in the teen category you could do pretty decent, in the adult category i don't think those would do too well cause those categories are just absolutely insane

[spring vault]

lotta lenses act diff near min focus distance and farther away

[grizzled nebula]

this is at min focus distance that i took these pictures

[undone slate]

But is the difference in quality noticeable?

@grizzled nebula

[grizzled nebula]

Yes

[wide flint]

600 f4 with built in tc

Could also argue for the 400 f2.8 with built in tc

[grizzled nebula]

how the fuck do you compete with this

[undone slate]

then my photos won't be of excellent quality

with the z6 III + 180-600mm

[grizzled nebula]

https://tenor.com/view/bunny-huh-gif-5026055331259108593

yes they will be

[undone slate]

But they'll be worse than yours in quality.

[grizzled nebula]

well that's expected really

not the same caliber of lens

[undone slate]

But is your lens zoom or fixed?

[grizzled nebula]

fixed

it doesn't zoom

that's why i also have a 100-500 lens

[green canyon]

its also not the weight of a car

[grizzled nebula]

my 600 is almost double the weight of the 180-600

[naive fiber]

You don't bro 😭

How on earth was this even taken

[undone slate]

The problem with that is that you have to be at a good distance from the bird because if it's too close and you want to take a good picture, you can't.

[naive fiber]

Yeah let me put my lens in this corpse

[undone slate]

I think.

[grizzled nebula]

you're making my head hurt

[undone slate]

🙁

[naive fiber]

I do want me a 500 f4

[undone slate]

idk

[naive fiber]

They aren't too much anymore for f mounts

[grizzled nebula]

this is the difference between a 600 F/4 prime and a 180-600

the difference will not be as noticable on birds but it will still be there

[left brook]

corner or center?

[naive fiber]

Are these cropped?

[left brook]

500/4E probably my next lens

[grizzled nebula]

(mine is sharper than that nikon wide open )

this is center frame

[grizzled nebula]

no, just zoomed into

and that's killian's test

600 is II is razor sharp at F/4 from corner to corner

extremely small improvement between F/4 and F/8 at the corner

you won't notice it in normal shooting

[left brook]

aarvs do i get 500/4E or a 600/4

[grizzled nebula]

i mean depends if you want a lighter lens or more reach

[left brook]

i can just like

tc tho

[naive fiber]

Oh right

[grizzled nebula]

icl i'd just ask some nikon users

[naive fiber]

I thought it was centre and cropped

[grizzled nebula]

i believe the 600 IS II is the sharpest 600 IS II with the nikon 600 FL ED VR

600 IS II has slightly better sharpness with TC but FL ED VR better CA Control

[left brook]

hmm

500/4 E has even crazier mtf charts tho

idk how much i trust

[spring vault]

get 600 f4

for the clout

[grizzled nebula]

i would've gotten 500 F/4 ngl if it wasn't over 2K more expensive than the 600 F/4

[glossy sage]

The 600 f/4 I want is $13k

I'd have to uhh sell my car

[green canyon]

yippie

no i cant

[grizzled nebula]

It does it for me sometimes but not always lmao

[grizzled nebula]

Thats nice

[green canyon]

im trying right now but it doesnt work

oh well

[grizzled nebula]

Nice colors

[green canyon]

birds almost always sit in this tree in my garden, finally it has some leaves on it

[grizzled nebula]

Do u think my phones cam is dead?

[green canyon]

this guy let me within like 2m

[green canyon]

https://klipy.com/gifs/sorry-bro-hand-on-shoulder

brother

[fast knoll]

me neither i have to add it

[grizzled nebula]

Only pic ive managed to get today 🙁

We go again tomorrow

[undone slate]

@tacit gazelle here

I'm going to try using darktable, but it's still confusing for me.

[tacit gazelle]

Ah ok

There are lots of tutorials on YouTube to help

If you want something simple to start I'd recommend snapseed/Lightroom mobile

[undone slate]

i was using GIMP but it's not good

But what should I edit in the photo?

[undone slate]

what phone do u have

[grizzled nebula]

S21 ultra

[undone slate]

well idk, i don't use phone to take photos

[grizzled nebula]

But it’s been waterdamaged multiple times, cameras badly replaced by repair shop aswell

[grizzled nebula]

I don’t either

[tacit gazelle]

Make the bird eye/head stand out more

[undone slate]

how?

If I increase the saturation it will increase the saturation of the entire photo

[tacit gazelle]

You have to make a mask

[undone slate]

wdym by that?

[tacit gazelle]

It's like a selected layer

Just start with snapseed and learn that first

[undone slate]

can i do that on darktable?

[tacit gazelle]

Yes

Look up a YouTube tutorial

[undone slate]

ok, i will

[hidden wyvern]

rainy birds

[tacit gazelle]

That third one is nice

[undone slate]

Thanks!

[tacit gazelle]

The other ones would be awesome too if you learned masking

[undone slate]

mmm yes, i would learn masking

The photos may be okay, but the camera and the quality are bad.

[tacit gazelle]

It's actually kinda impressive for a point and shoot without any editing

Like

[undone slate]

yep

Although when I buy the Z6 III the difference will be enormous

and 180-600mm

[tacit gazelle]

You have money saved up?

[undone slate]

yes

[tacit gazelle]

Nice

[grizzled nebula]

used my 100-500 properly for the first time in ages

[undone slate]

I already made the mask, but I don't know how to select it to edit it. 😭

[tacit gazelle]

Have you tried looking up a YouTube video?

[undone slate]

not yet

[gilded yarrow]

Lmao whats happening there

[fast knoll]

dude what is that

[charred holly]

Ah yes, the Talking Head masking technique...

[glossy sage]

For the feeder people here

Yall store feed in the bags or a bin? Trying to eyeball what size bin I want

I'm thinking 20gal (75 liter)

[green canyon]

i dont burn through food quick enough for that

[glossy sage]

I see. I wanna start mixing my own seed mix to prioritize not parking lot birbs (crows and grackles) that come with pre-mixed bags so I'd have to get bags of seeds and nuts at once and mix em all together

[green canyon]

i like tits and robins the most so i have a big bag of deshelled sunflower hearts, some peanuts and a little bucket of dried larvae

[scarlet tulip]

Oh lord is this what Darktable makes you do for masks

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That’s actually ass

[gilded yarrow]

I mean doesnt everyone like tits

[green canyon]

not everyone

[unborn frost]

Thoughts on these? lighting was all over the place on the day. tried to get eye level or just below but it ended up being quite difficult to edit. didnt know which way to go or how to frame things

[green canyon]

bit high contrast overall

some are too saturated, especially in the blues and yellows

[fast knoll]

the first one kinda has a weird crop but it has potential

[green canyon]

i think i like the second one the most

raise shadows a bit

[naive fiber]

Probably water

[naive fiber]

Condensation in the lens or between the back glass and lens

[remote remnant]

guess the focal length

[tacit gazelle]

11mm

[remote remnant]

24

[tacit gazelle]

Darn

[fast knoll]

how's the 1dx mark ii

isnt that the flagship dslr

[remote remnant]

yup

it's insane

[fast knoll]

how does the autofocus work is there auto tracking like the mirrorless subject detection?

[remote remnant]

i love it, only thing stopping me from carrying it around everywhere is its size and weight i still prefer it over my r8 for sports, genuinely works better in every way in the thing it's meant to do

[remote remnant]

there technically is, but it's not too good

[fast knoll]

this is sick im always scared to shoot into the sun lol

[remote remnant]

full area auto af point works great though

i'm usually on single point

[fast knoll]

makes sense

[tacit gazelle]

Same

[fast knoll]

i only attempt it during sunset

[tacit gazelle]

I don’t even do that

I’m scared

[shut hazel]

is ts the darktable experience

[scarlet tulip]

appears to be

Ow

[grizzled nebula]

glue

[naive fiber]

Oh very botched then

[naive fiber]

Did you hurt yourself or something

[grizzled nebula]

Ik its dead rn but its repairable

Idk if its worth it tho

[finite flower]

the bittern is still under editing works

but js a snapshot

[undone slate]

I've already seen tutorials on how to use the Darktable mask, but in this photo the detail of the face is beyond repair, I think.

[undone slate]

What is the bird in the first photo?

[naive fiber]

Is it all lenses

[finite flower]

von schenck's bittern

[grizzled nebula]

pretty much yh

the 108mp one works ok but it's still not as good as before

[tough hull]

@grizzled nebula

Where did you see all the vultures

Because I’m also going to the Pyrenees this year

In August

[grizzled nebula]

gorges du verdon

not in the pyrenees

[tough hull]

Oh bruh

Thx though

[grizzled nebula]

but you'll see a lot more birds in the pyrenees anyway

[tough hull]

Ok

[grizzled nebula]

there's griffon, bearded, egyptian, Cinereous vultures, golden, bonelli's, booted, short toed eagles, peregrine falcons and a lot more in the pyrenees

and they're all pretty common there

[tough hull]

Crazy, thanks a lot

[grizzled nebula]

i really want to go there in the near future

annyoing thing is that most of the best places are 9h from where i live

[grizzled nebula]

time for me to go out

ik where i'm going to go today and tomorrow already

[unborn frost]

Had another go at these; need to not make things pop too much or end up making them look unnatural. I noticed most of it came from knowing how much to lift shadows and contrast. The original images were quite dark so it was difficult judge how much brighter i can go while still making it seem like the subject are in shadow

[naive fiber]

Hmm is the image leading a tad pink?

Maybe a tad cold

Can't tell too much right now

[unborn frost]

I adjusted the temp to be a bit cold to balance some of the colours, making it warmer was saturating the image and making it harder to manage. I think ill have to revisit some videos on how to deal with colour cast and adjusting temperature sliders. Atm i just do it by eye and what feels right

[naive fiber]

What are you using for it?

[unborn frost]

The images? Nothing. Just getting into photography as a hobby. Dont plan on posting to any socials. Its just nice to know good techniques to edit as i have the tools for it

[naive fiber]

Oh I meant for editing sorry

[unborn frost]

Ah my bad. I use lightroom classic

[grizzled nebula]

gonna try going there tomorrow

either that or a birding hotspot

depends

likely to see a kingfisher or something

[naive fiber]

Oh it can do it for you

[naive fiber]

Dont jinx it

[grizzled nebula]

i've seen them on that river before

well i saw the 2 only ones i've ever seen there

[naive fiber]

Yet to see a kingfisher

[naive fiber]

How many times have you been lmao

[grizzled nebula]

well i saw them pretty much every day for 3 months

[naive fiber]

Oh wow

[charred holly]

giga crop but I kinda like it

[naive fiber]

Great tit?

I can't tell here

[charred holly]

yup

[naive fiber]

Cute birds

Shame it's so cropped though the detail is a bit bleh

[charred holly]

Also, not a bird but I spotted this dude too

[naive fiber]

Damn thats shitting cool lmao

[charred holly]

Yeah, this place has more boars than birds lol

[naive fiber]

Maybe they were all scared off lmao

[charred holly]

There has been a massive forest fire last summer, so wildlife got very sparse

[naive fiber]

Where abouts is this?

[charred holly]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2025_Corbières_Massif_wildfire

So bad it has its own Wikipedia page

[naive fiber]

Oh yeah that's pretty shit

[charred holly]

It was bound to happen, three years of uninterruped drought...

[undone slate]

One question: would you recommend going to a place where there are ducks to take pictures of them? I'm asking because of the camera I have.

[astral saffron]

Yes you have to go to where ducks live to photograph them

[undone slate]

Yes, but I'm asking if you recommend going there to take pictures because the camera I have isn't that great.

?

[shut hazel]

hmm im free today and the ebird thing says theres actually swallows here

last time i went it said like 14% frequency

now its nearing 80

im free today so i might have to go

[undone slate]

ebird shows that?

[shut hazel]

idk i was sscrolling around and i clicked on this local spot and it shows the species that are there and some kind of bar carts

charts

i would assume theres atleast one swallow there if its 78% frequency

[undone slate]

nice

[fast knoll]

😭

[undone slate]

Yes, but I'm asking if you recommend going there to take pictures because the camera I have isn't that great.

[fast knoll]

u can get nice photos with a bridge camera

it's more about the photographer's ability

[undone slate]

with my camera?

[fast knoll]

sure why not

get a nice angle

[undone slate]

yap

[fast knoll]

u dont have to have the highest quality photo

if u get a nice angle and nice lighting it will still look good

it's not all about the camera

[undone slate]

yes

[fast knoll]

if i gave u my setup rn im not sure u would be able to get much better photos than what u have rn

[undone slate]

Which image quality is better, and which has a P1100 at maximum zoom 3000mm and my camera at maximum zoom 720mm?

[astral saffron]

You don’t need the latest and greatest gear to capture a mood and create art

[undone slate]

probably i could get better phtots

[fast knoll]

slightly better in terms of image quality maybe

but if ur angle is wrong and ur background is ugly that's not gonna change

[undone slate]

I know, but there's a reason why almost everyone who can afford it buys a good camera.

[fast knoll]

instead of typing here complaining about your camera how bout u go outside and practice getting good compositions

[undone slate]

it's night right now 😭

[shut hazel]

idk if this is a good example but i kinda got limited by zoom and i think the shot turned out fine in the end?

idk tho

[fast knoll]

i like it

also 720mm is no joke

i only have 500

[undone slate]

For example, if I had taken this photo with my camera, the sensor probably wouldn't have captured the details and focus as well; the difference is actually immense.

[fast knoll]

720 shouldnt limit u at all

[shut hazel]

i have 400 zoom

[fast knoll]

yea im talking to the other guy cause he asking about his 720mm

[shut hazel]

ah

720 is really good

[undone slate]

For those who own a fixed lens for birds, for example a 600mm, is there a significant difference in quality between a 180-600mm lens and a 180-600mm lens? Is it worth it?

[fast knoll]

i assume u mean zoom vs prime?

[shut hazel]

huh

[undone slate]

yes

[fast knoll]

it depends on which lenses youre comparing

[shut hazel]

oh

[fast knoll]

for example 180-600 is definitely softer compared to a prime

but the price diff is also like 12k

canon's 100-500 which is what i have is almost as sharp as a prime lens

the downside is the aperture is a lot slower

[wide flint]

Wait this guy is still complaining about his gear and coping? He's been here for like 2 days

[fast knoll]

indeed

[undone slate]

But I saw photos taken with a Z6 III and a 180-600mm lens, and the quality is very good; it's difficult to see any flaws.

[undone slate]

umm, yes?

[shut hazel]

the 180-600 isnt a bad lens

[undone slate]

i know

[fast knoll]

yea but compared to a prime you can tell

it's still a great setup

[shut hazel]

its good but if you want those very crispy details then a prime comes in handy

[fast knoll]

just not top of the line

[undone slate]

I don't know if it's worth spending so much for better quality; I don't think there's that much difference anyway.

[fast knoll]

well to each their own

[shut hazel]

it all depends on the person

[fast knoll]

some ppl want to print their photos

[shut hazel]

ye

[fast knoll]

some ppl use their gear for a living

[undone slate]

yes

[undone slate]

yes

[wide flint]

Yeah, quality of the camera really isn't THAT important. Good photographers can still take AMAZING pictures with shit gear, 95% is just skill and knowledge. Gear just makes your hitrate a bit higher and sometimes easier to hit shots in certain situations

[fast knoll]

this is the power of the 100-500

[undone slate]

wow

I think I already asked you, but what lens and camera did you use?

[fast knoll]

r5 100-500

[undone slate]

oh ok

But if a lens is fixed at 600mm for example, if you have a bird nearby you can't take a picture of it.

[shut hazel]

yum

[undone slate]

what

[shut hazel]

that is quite te birb

[fast knoll]

yea but that rarely happens

usually the birds are far

there r certain situations where zoom does come in handy

but usually youre at the long end of ur lens anyway

[undone slate]

yes

[fast knoll]

i have a few examples of when zoom was actually handy

these were at 300mm

basically uncropped

[shut hazel]

37

[fast knoll]

these birds have 10 foot wingspan

[shut hazel]

thats a pretty big bird

[charred holly]

Birds in flight without a zoom

[fast knoll]

largest bird in north america

[undone slate]

what's that?

[fast knoll]

it's a tag

there's only 600 left

they were brought back by a conservation program

from a population of 22

[undone slate]

colossal biosciences

[astral saffron]

You don’t need crazy zooms, getting close it more important. Your 720mm is more than enough
Taken at 20mm: #🦀・creatures message
Taken at 40mm: #🦀・creatures message

[undone slate]

Was the first one a camera trap?

[astral saffron]

No I only shoot handheld

[undone slate]

wow

[charred holly]

50mm bird (it hit its head on a window and got stunned for a bit)

[shut hazel]

you also dont always need the closeups imo

[shut hazel]

o

[undone slate]

😭

But how did you take that picture? From a window or did it just happen?

[charred holly]

We heard a bang at the window and a friend put it on a table

[astral saffron]

The best wildlife photographs are photos of landscapes with animals in them

[shut hazel]

i really wana try that someday

[undone slate]

I can see the reflection of the house in the bird's eye

o

[charred holly]

Yup, some of the photos were so close I had to cull them because it would dox me

[glossy sage]

Do what u wanna do

[glossy sage]

I could, so lend me your setup pls

I got mega scrolled up by discord nice

[scarlet tulip]

always nice to see great black-backs

[glossy sage]

I want a good flying photo but my AF aint havin it

[remote remnant]

r8 af is great idk what ur on about

[scarlet tulip]

big fuckers

wish i could get one next to a ring-bill for a nice size comparison

[fast knoll]

is it the same AF as the r6ii?

if it is then it's better than the r5 lol

[remote remnant]

yeah

[scarlet tulip]

these guys showed up as well

[fast knoll]

pretty decent then

[charred holly]

My latest bird in flight

Ugly APSC bokeh hit again

[glossy sage]

The body is fine @fast knoll

[remote remnant]

do u just have an ahh lens

[glossy sage]

Its just an old EF lens

[remote remnant]

which one lol

[glossy sage]

https://www.tamron.com/global/consumer/lenses/a022/

[remote remnant]

oh cooked

mi bombo

[glossy sage]

Its a pretty good lens, just doesn't have that native RF autofocus speed + I have to adapt to it

Going from stationary birb -> flying it doesn't refocus fast enough

[fast knoll]

i had 100-400 ii

it's pretty nice

[shut hazel]

Yooo

Theres so many swallows

Lfg

I kinda suck ass at tracking them tho

[remote remnant]

just shoot at 24mm

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[shut hazel]

Real

Ig not bad

Very cropped tho

[shut hazel]

I made a new friend here and he told me some nice violet green swallow spots

gonna have to check em out

gonna have to check em out

Duck

[shut hazel]

lowk not the worst?

[hidden wyvern]

They’re like little bullets

[shut hazel]

yeah it was wild

i never tried getting photos before

today was interesting

im happy with the shot above though atleast i didnt come out with nothing

[hidden wyvern]

Think it’s an ideal shot for them too, getting closer is like impossible to track

Shows the colours too

[shut hazel]

yeah

there we go

[grizzled nebula]

this place look good

even an egret at the bottom

can cycle there easily

[grizzled nebula]

damn that's nice

[shut hazel]

thanks

[grizzled nebula]

Can't wait to go check out this part of the river

alpine swift

wish it was facing the other direction

[fast knoll]

swifts r so annoying lol

[grizzled nebula]

there were loads there but they were just too fast i couldn't find them in the evf

one almost hit me at full speed

[fast knoll]

yea tracking these guys is a skill

[grizzled nebula]

ew jpg artefacts

[shut hazel]

Zamn bru

[fast knoll]

is he banded

[grizzled nebula]

yh

wait

actually idk

[fast knoll]

def wasn't born with that haha

what shutter speed did u use also

[grizzled nebula]

he's ringed

[grizzled nebula]

1/4000

[shut hazel]

handsome fella

[naive fiber]

Such cuteness

[tender galleon]

fluffy

[naive fiber]

Chickadee

[undone slate]

😭

I don't know if it's a coincidence many times or if it's something normal.

[undone slate]

I still don't understand how birds of prey get so close to you.

[tender galleon]

its a willow tit i think

[tender galleon]

patience

[undone slate]

yep

[undone slate]

But even with patience, in my area it is very, very rare for kites and buzzards to come near me.

But for photographing birds on a clear day, I think it's best during sunrise and sunset.

otherwise the sun creates very harsh shadows

bad photo

[naive fiber]

I can't tell I believe it's a black cap chickadee

Actually I have no clue

[tender galleon]

i from that angle it might look like a chickadee but i think theres no chickadees in my area

[grizzled nebula]

looks like a marsh tit

[naive fiber]

They look pretty similar though

So yeah probably yours

God we are useless at this

Merlin bird id we go

[grizzled nebula]

they're too similar lol

[naive fiber]

They are a bit skinnier than this I believe

It came up with all 3 of our answers

[grizzled nebula]

well it's either marsh or willow

imo

[naive fiber]

Probably willow

It's a bit fluffy

[grizzled nebula]

are you ok with me sending the picture in another server to try and get the it identified?

actually i could invite u directly

if u want

[naive fiber]

Yes willow most likely

Very sad I don't have anything like this in England

[grizzled nebula]

do u want me to invite u to this birding server so u can get it identified or want me to send it there myself?

or do u not care lol

[naive fiber]

This isn't my photo lmao

I would like an invite sure

But ask @tender galleon not me

[grizzled nebula]

oh yh lol

@tender galleon want me to get it identified in a birding server?

[grizzled nebula]

sent u friend request so i can send it to u

[naive fiber]

Oh yh thanks

Are my DMS not open lmao

[grizzled nebula]

apparently not

(before i sent friend request)

[tender galleon]

sure

[tender galleon]

yeah willow more fluffy

[naive fiber]

I'll open them up

Dunno why they aren't

[grizzled nebula]

where did u take the picture

[tender galleon]

in my backyard

[grizzled nebula]

i meant which country 😅

[tender galleon]

ohh

finland

[grizzled nebula]

oh yh that's most likely a willow then

[grizzled nebula]

cause i know antti takes quite a few willow tit pictures too (he's also finnish)

and they're also very common there

i should've asked that directly, would've saved a lot of time

[naive fiber]

The closest thing we have in the UK I believe is to be a long tailed tit looks wise

Never seen one though

I think birds like those would look the best if it were to snow photography wise

[grizzled nebula]

❤️

[naive fiber]

Extremely nice bird

[grizzled nebula]

i love them

[naive fiber]

Wow Asian koels are loud

[undone slate]

i want to be there

[magic crown]

Blorbedededede

[naive fiber]

@grizzled nebula my phone cameras went to the pearly gates today to meet yours for some reason

[finite flower]

patience and trying alot

today i waited 1.5h for a 30s appearance

[undone slate]

wow

[finite flower]

other days you can wait 2h js for the bird to not even show

so like

[undone slate]

[undone slate]

But do you take the photos in the morning and afternoon, or also at midday? I ask because the sun doesn't create much contrast at midday.?

[finite flower]

usually sunrise till late morning

after like 11am heatwaves sucks

[undone slate]

depends where are you from

[finite flower]

yeah i live at the equator

[undone slate]

what country?

[finite flower]

singapore

[undone slate]

wow

[finite flower]

mid day sun can be ok if its cloudy

mornings/evenings are better for colour

[undone slate]

I'm in Spain, you're on the other side of the world

[undone slate]

yes

[undone slate]

But if you want to take a picture of a bird flying, the sky looks bad.

[finite flower]

i generally dislike sky backgrounds unless its clear skies

then you can maybe save the background

[undone slate]

Do you have any pictures of a cassowary?

[finite flower]

#🦀・creatures message

sample is this

[finite flower]

no

i want one too

[undone slate]

I'm going to a zoo this year where there's a cassowary, but do you think you can take good photos at a zoo?

[finite flower]

zoo to me isnt that 'real'

i go to zoos for fun i never posts the shots there

[undone slate]

i know

[finite flower]

but you can def get good shots in a zoo dpeneidng on the environment the animal is in

singapore has the mandai bird paradise

[undone slate]

I know, but you can take close-up photos with good detail, even if the fence isn't very noticeable.

[finite flower]

which is an open uncaged bird area

which holds birds that can freely roam

[undone slate]

Is it a birds of paradise zoo or what?

[finite flower]

thats what i dislike tbh, the cage

[finite flower]

its like a bird park

you can google it

[undone slate]

Have you ever seen a bird of paradise at the zoo?

[grizzled nebula]

there's some in a zoo very close to me

[undone slate]

And have you ever been there?

I went to the largest bird zoo in Spain last year, but I didn't have a camera back then.

and there was a cassowary

[finite flower]

i dont get whats a bird of paradise

but theres paradise flycatcher

[grizzled nebula]

not yet

[finite flower]

i dont stay australia

[undone slate]

this

[undone slate]

wdym

[finite flower]

singapore is not australia

[finite flower]

oh you meant that

but no, idts

i dont recall seeing that

https://www.mandai.com/en/bird-paradise/animals-and-zones.html?gclsrc=aw.ds&gad_source=1&gad_campaignid=22342387360&gbraid=0AAAAADkF49cndUnpld64ERkkXo3jOYnQ2

[grizzled nebula]

i need motivation to go out to the river rn

cause i need to cycle there

[undone slate]

why

[undone slate]

I searched on Google and it does have Raggiana bird of paradise

[grizzled nebula]

basically my 2 options to go to the river are take a long fast dangerous road or take a small fast dangerous road but longer distance

[finite flower]

idts

[undone slate]

Why is it dangerous?

[undone slate]

well, if both are fast

probably it's better to go with a bike

[grizzled nebula]

Need to go on 90kmph roads

[undone slate]

Well, I don't know if it's that dangerous; on the highways I go at 120 km/h

[naive fiber]

You can go to a bird national park

[undone slate]

How is that?

@naive fiber

[naive fiber]

Good

I wouldn't suggest it if it wasn't

[undone slate]

But what do you mean by national bird park? I don't know if there are any like that; there are national parks, but I don't know if they are specifically for birds.

[grizzled nebula]

Shitty ass river

Theres nothing there

[undone slate]

maybe there are fishes?

[grizzled nebula]

If i had taken my gopro i couldve recorded the fishes but thats not what im interested in rn

[naive fiber]

Search them up

[dreamy tinsel]

is your gear not weather sealed?

[undone slate]

I'm going to photograph ducks, any recommendations?

[dusty fog]

https://tenor.com/view/balls-party-shake-shake-it-gif-14236194674638054130

https://tenor.com/view/dance-dance-moves-skeleton-get-low-drop-it-down-gif-18832451

[undone slate]

yap

@dusty fog wait, do you have the Z6 III?

[dusty fog]

yus

[undone slate]

wow

and do you have the 180-600mm?

for birds

[dusty fog]

negative

400 4.5

[undone slate]

?

what's that

[grizzled nebula]

Green woodpecker super close to me

[dusty fog]

Z 400 4.5 VR S

[undone slate]

wow

Take a picture of it

[undone slate]

?

what's that

[dusty fog]

bro

[tough hull]

Nice

[undone slate]

lens

[grizzled nebula]

Not even the f/2.8 tc vr

[tough hull]

Yes Bro

[undone slate]

ok ok

[tough hull]

What Else

[dusty fog]

https://letmegooglethat.com/?q=Nikon+Z+400mm+f%2F4.5+VR+S

[tough hull]

Could it be

[undone slate]

I got confused

[grizzled nebula]

I cant see the woodpecker yet

[undone slate]

@dusty fog do you have any astro-photo or bird photo with your z6 III?

i really want to buy that camera

[undone slate]

why

[dusty fog]

it's a great camera, my examples won't change anything

(i have none)

[undone slate]

why

[tough hull]

Gawdamn

[dusty fog]

i'm lazy

[undone slate]

why

But you take pictures with the camera, right?

[dusty fog]

https://tenor.com/view/squints-fry-futurama-meme-gif-16667231

[undone slate]

um

[dusty fog]

r u trolling me

[undone slate]

no

i'm not

[grizzled nebula]

Bruh the woodpecker sounded like it was going away and now it sounds like its next to me again

[undone slate]

How are you able to write here and at the same time have the bird get so close to you?

[grizzled nebula]

Can you smell what the rock is cooking

[grizzled nebula]

Because i aint making noise?

[undone slate]

But how close is it?

But I think you used a fixed lens, or do you have more?

[grizzled nebula]

I only took the prime today

didn't see the woodpecker but it was probably under 40m away

[green canyon]

nice

[naive fiber]

Holy big

[grizzled nebula]

have more to edit$

and i also need 45mp cause these are all Under 8mp crops lol

[naive fiber]

Lmao why so squashed

Cute pics

Like the 2nd

[grizzled nebula]

5.9mp and still very usable

uhhh

wide

fixed the highlights a little

[glossy sage]

Good photo you just needed to get closer

For something closer to this

[naive fiber]

Do you have the uncropped

[glossy sage]

Crouch walking towards birds last day or 2 has seemed to have been helping me get closer

[glossy sage]

Was something in front of the lens?

[grizzled nebula]

just a leaf probably

[glossy sage]

Maybe its the lighting but compared to your other photos this one has some haziness to it

[grizzled nebula]

dehazed it a little bit more

[tacit gazelle]

This is a gem

[magic crown]

all of that to have a insanely bad luck btw

[grizzled nebula]

i'm ngl i ain't got a car so i get people to take me

but everytime i go somewhere that's meant to be good i can't find shit 😭

before wildlife photography i didn't think i'd really need a car so i haven't done my license yet but i've just passed the code de la route

[magic crown]

same but with everything near it's pretty easy with bike/bus

[grizzled nebula]

https://tenor.com/view/scream-loud-scream-girl-kid-hispanic-girl-gif-3761151244536557927

first thing i do when i get my license is drive to camargue

imma be sleeping in my car

[tender galleon]

thats gonna look fire when edited if its sharp

[undone slate]

nice shot!

[undone slate]

woww

My photos

[grizzled nebula]

this is by far your best photo

[undone slate]

thanks ☺️

[undone slate]

I'm really impressed by the quality of the photo, honestly.

It's a really bad photo, I only took it to identify the bird. What is it?

[undone slate]

I'll send more photos tomorrow; there are many I took, I still have to select them.

[grizzled nebula]

gray wagtail i think

[undone slate]

yep, thanks.

[undone slate]

Why isn't the background so blurred?

[green canyon]

fstop

[grizzled nebula]

cause it's a shitty pns camera

you will need to get super close to the subject to get any kind of blur

[undone slate]

😭

I already managed to get photos of birds with the background perfectly blurred, the problem is that the background was somewhat close.

[undone slate]

what's that

[tacit gazelle]

Yeah basically you hit the point, the further away the object is the easier it is for the camera to blur the background when you're zoomed in

[tough hull]

How old are you if I may ask

[tough hull]

Yes

I got a nice photo just a few days ago

I saw them for the first time ever in this area, (first time ever in general was 20km away in school) and then sat with my boots sunken in the mud, on a breaking branch in a swamp so I can get pictures of it landing on a branch in the water

But unfortunately after 30mins of waiting I realized there k was too much grass so the images where unsharp so I threw a stick sideways to knock the 4 grass things down and then I had to wait another 30mins for a wagtail to land

My spot is pretty horrible though because you can easily just sink in the mud as if it were ice that you’re breaking through

It’s always a bit scary but I’m getting used to it luckily

[left brook]

19 iirc

[tacit gazelle]

Do you know the exposure triangle yet?

[undone slate]

hmm maybe

can you explain me?

[tacit gazelle]

https://share.google/images/dP2MWnMVEeXXKaw1U

[undone slate]

Well, I have to go to sleep, I'll read that tomorrow.

[tacit gazelle]

The higher the f stop (1.8), the more light it allows in and also allows for the background to have more bokeh (blurry)

[tough hull]

Idk the triangle lol

Like I’ve seen it

But idrc

[tacit gazelle]

Wat

Do you shoot manual?

[tough hull]

Fully yeah

I hate auto

Messes everything

[tacit gazelle]

Then you basically already know exposure triangle

[tough hull]

Ok

I don’t really like all this basic stuff though since the things like bad iso aren’t shown

There are always plot twists

Little

But they do something

[undone slate]

I think this photo is flawless, but if anyone can point it out, please do.
(And can you rate it?)

except the quality

[grizzled nebula]

19

[tough hull]

Bro spent his money on cameras and lenses instead of driving license 💀

[grizzled nebula]

i'm doing it rn

[tough hull]

Bruh still

[grizzled nebula]

was not necessary until i started wildlife photography

[tough hull]

In Germany I can start at 17

[tough hull]

I can go to all my wildlife spots with my bike

[grizzled nebula]

https://tenor.com/view/stfu-hang-up-talking-snoop-dogg-gif-18748055

[tough hull]

Car is actually worse

[grizzled nebula]

i can't go nowhere without a car

[tough hull]

I can’t reach most spots with car

Because no roads for cars

[tough hull]

Brother

Your wildlife spots

Are crazy

[grizzled nebula]

hmm i live far away from them

3h by car from camargue

6h if i take the train + bus

i have a mini camargue but there's basically nothing other than 1 black swan

that's 30 mins away by car and 1h by bus

gorges du verdon is also about 1h20-2h away

mercantour 3h

[tough hull]

You have kingfisher spots

[grizzled nebula]

they're gone 🙁

[tough hull]

?

[grizzled nebula]

i haven't seen then in 2 months

[tough hull]

Crazy

[grizzled nebula]

atleast i managed to get an incredible photo before they left ig

[tough hull]

I couldn’t see my kingfishers for 5 months but yesterday I saw them for the first time since then

[tough hull]

Yeah

[grizzled nebula]

man look at the photo potential at the mercantour

[tough hull]

But listen

I have no good spots really

The better spots are 21km away

So 42a day

If I go there

[tough hull]

And it’s literally just a fan

How far do you live from the ocean?

[grizzled nebula]

the closest to me is 17km away

[grizzled nebula]

1 min walk

[tough hull]

Then you’ve already got good spots

Ocean is a big variety

Stop complaining

[tacit gazelle]

This guy

Lucky lil boy

[tough hull]

You leaked your location I just realized

[grizzled nebula]

ocean is overrated

there's fuck all the photograph

[grizzled nebula]

eh who cares

not like ur gonna come

[tacit gazelle]

👀

[tough hull]

Uh

I’m going to France soon

[tacit gazelle]

Idk I already booked my flight

[tough hull]

I’m not lying

[tacit gazelle]

Isn't that place tourisy

[tough hull]

True

[grizzled nebula]

well i'll welcome you (with a taser)

[grizzled nebula]

yes

too many tourists

[tough hull]

Lmao

[tacit gazelle]

Then boom

[grizzled nebula]

it's fucking awful

[tacit gazelle]

Ykw

[tough hull]

I still don’t know your house

[grizzled nebula]

unlivable

[tacit gazelle]

Sit there on the beach with a sign saying 5 dollar photographs

[tough hull]

Bro talking bout tourists

[grizzled nebula]

i got shushed by some tourists at the gorges du verdon because she was filming a video 💀

she was literally screaming

dumbass biatch

this is about 40 mins by car from where i live

[tough hull]

We have a mountain that’s like the most touristy place in the area and like every year I see like two helicopters landing there because someone was too stupid to climb again and got himself in a near death encounter

Like bro

I take the longer way with my 2.5kg camera setup

[grizzled nebula]

this is quite cool too

[tough hull]

If you can’t climb with gear take the easy path

[tough hull]

Imagine diving there

[grizzled nebula]

you could

water is nice and clear

[tough hull]

Yeah

[grizzled nebula]

cool until some great white shark arrives

[tough hull]

Only problem I have no underwater housing for my camera and no underwater cam

[tough hull]

Idc

I would shoot him with my 14mm

[dark minnow]

man i wish i had those place, only thing i have is bipolar weather

[grizzled nebula]

i've been there before and you can walk on all the light blue area

[grizzled nebula]

winter was horrible

[dark minnow]

brother winter still aint over here

[grizzled nebula]

we had 80% rain and 10% cloudy and 10% sunny

[dark minnow]

spring is just not coming

[tough hull]

At least you don’t live in Germany

[dark minnow]

-7 tomorrow

in april

[tough hull]

You get snow in April

[tough hull]

German?

[grizzled nebula]

[dark minnow]

Quebec

[tough hull]

Oh

Bruh

[grizzled nebula]

there's some birds in this area

[tough hull]

Ok

[grizzled nebula]

i'd love snow, i've only seen it once in my life here

[tough hull]

I know I nice birding spot but unfortunately I wasn’t into birding when I went there plus I had only 300mm back then

[tough hull]

lol

I also love it

Except if it snows and melts again

[dark minnow]

its very fun for when you have it, its not when it melts

[grizzled nebula]

[dark minnow]

This was last week

[grizzled nebula]

lucky

[tough hull]

Like 5 days ago we had sunshine and 15 degrees then it started to rain as strong as never in this year yet and then it snowed for 1h it was all white and 30mins later all snow was gone and sunny again

[grizzled nebula]

google street/satelite map hasn't been updated in about 10 years here

[dark minnow]

This was last week a year ago

[tough hull]

And it looks cool but is actually shit that our snow here is just like mushy and not powdery so it’s always melting

And it melts on your cam when it snows

[dark minnow]

in my experience thats fine

[tough hull]

On your shoes everywhere

[grizzled nebula]

Je
Choisis
Ie
Quebec

[dark minnow]

OUIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII

[tough hull]

Literally when I was in the mountains with like -10 in the snow it was more comfortable than 0 degrees in Germany

[dark minnow]

yo -10 is hoodie weather

[tough hull]

Because the powder snow doesn’t stick to my shoes

[grizzled nebula]

being able to drive anywhere when i want is gonna be life changing

[tough hull]

Last time I got -10 at home was when I still went to primary school

So over 6 years ago

[dark minnow]

march 22nd this year

[tough hull]

I remember our thermometer we had outside was almost down to -20

But only at night

[grizzled nebula]

coldest i've ever experienced here is probably -3°c at night

[tough hull]

Same day we got +5

[dark minnow]

-1 to +1 weather that day

[grizzled nebula]

don't remember the temp when we got snow here cause iirc that was over 11 years ago

[tough hull]

You literally have no gulf stream and are far up north that’s obvious you get weather like this

[grizzled nebula]

in the day the coldest i remember experiencing is 3°C

[dark minnow]

yeah

[grizzled nebula]

when i went to the ski it went down to -15°C

[tough hull]

We would get similar weather if we had no gulf stream

[dark minnow]

coldest ive experience in the day is -30, night -55

[tough hull]

Which will soon be the case

[grizzled nebula]

that's farenheit tho no?

[tough hull]

No

[dark minnow]

no celcius

[grizzled nebula]

oh yh ur in canada lol

normal then

[dark minnow]

bah oui

[tough hull]

Also F and C meet like at 30 degrees I think

Or 40 idk

[grizzled nebula]

my brain is starting to break down

[tough hull]

So it’s very similar

[tough hull]

We shall go to bed

[grizzled nebula]

no i'm gonna watch a TV show i missed

[tough hull]

I sound like Shakespeare

In my head

[tough hull]

Watch Artemis II

[dark minnow]

🇨🇦

[tough hull]

They look so dead rn

[grizzled nebula]

what u duin blud start waking up yute type shit

[tough hull]

Reid wiseman or what was his name

Ik they are practicing emergency drill rn

[grizzled nebula]

i've been brainrotted by these harry potter drip videos

[dark minnow]

Jeremy Hansen

[dark minnow]

wiseman is american

[grizzled nebula]

"wise"man

[tough hull]

Oh

[tough hull]

He’s commander

[dark minnow]

brother

[grizzled nebula]

wassup bro

[dark minnow]

i liked the joke thats all

[tough hull]

Next time I want them to send me as the first student ever and the first German to the moon

[grizzled nebula]

yh imma go watch this tv show to relax my brain 😭

[dark minnow]

brother's manifesting

looking forward to this this summer

[tough hull]

I’m gonna take a picture of the earth and then I will start a checklist on eBird and check every bird existing and as proof I will send them a photo of the earth

[dark minnow]

checklisting the dodo

[tough hull]

Because I took a picture of almost all humans and all animals

[grizzled nebula]

damn that's nice

[green canyon]

Hello birds

[grizzled nebula]

ok cya now, show started

[tough hull]

Bye

[dark minnow]

see ya!!

[tough hull]

Hi

Why up so late

[green canyon]

bye

[dark minnow]

Hola!!

[green canyon]

sleep schedule is fucked

[tough hull]

Same

[green canyon]

and i need to wake up at 5 to catch the plane 🔥

[tough hull]

Where you goin

[dark minnow]

plane to where?

[green canyon]

London

[dark minnow]

ooooh

[tough hull]

@visual wadi

[green canyon]

this was my last message yesterday 😭 #985234355486085174 message

look at the time

[tough hull]

Ah hell nah

[green canyon]

folk

[tough hull]

You can go meet @visual wadi

[tough hull]

No

[green canyon]

aha

[tough hull]

Pls don’t go

He lives like idk southwest of London

Where you landing? Gatwick or Heathrow?

[green canyon]

Heathrow i think

[tough hull]

Damn

[tough hull]

Wait nvm mb

Bro is in Bulgaria rn

[green canyon]

lol

[tough hull]

[green canyon]

I dont have my big lens with me 😔

[tough hull]

200-600 ain’t big

So

It’s with you

[green canyon]

i dont have the 200-600 with me 😔

[tough hull]

But why

Carry it as if it were a phone

[green canyon]

im there with my family to do stuff not primarily to take pictures

not trying to damage it on the way

[finite flower]

its time to upgrade the body

[green canyon]

also it would cost 55€ to carry a bigger bag