Bird Photography

[shut hazel]

one time i went out to this place with my 180mm (beofre i got my 400) and i saw this thingy

so cropped lmao

[fast knoll]

osprey nest

sick

[shut hazel]

i should go back

[tender galleon]

my sister will help me get there

[half yacht]

Hey, @fast knoll about your red bird photos (vermillion flycatcher you said?) I think the fully red ones look a bit wierd on photos because the eye becomes a lot harder to see. The photos are amazing still! Very sharp and very close :)

[fast knoll]

i agree

[half yacht]

Mostly only in this one

[fast knoll]

their faces r super dark

oh yea that was the unedited jpg from my camera

[half yacht]

The fully red one here is lit up better

[half yacht]

Ohhh

Ok

[fast knoll]

yea those r the edited ones haha

i was too excited

[half yacht]

Makes sense lol

I need 1,586 dollars roughly

Nzd

For the lens I want

150-600mm

[grizzled nebula]

this one is great

[terse dust]

Well it looks like my lens will be delivered tomorrow but that wasn't expected so I didn't pay for express delivery on my ef to rf adapter so I may just end up with a wonderful paperweight for a day or two

[grizzled nebula]

what did u buy?

[terse dust]

Ef 300mm f2.8 L usm

[grizzled nebula]

nice

[magic crown]

Thank you santa !

Even better than my parents printer

And it's so silent

[dark ermine]

carolina chickadee and northern cardinal coming in for a landing

[grizzled nebula]

CANON 🔥

[magic crown]

yeah but photos from sony

[grizzled nebula]

printer better smh

[fast knoll]

ooh which printer is this

[magic crown]

Canon Pixma 6550i

it's a high end desktop printer

and medium end photo printer

[fast knoll]

super cool

[terse dust]

The dang focus motor on my nifty fifty sounds just like those old printers

[magic crown]

[magic crown]

damn i just learned that the PIXMA Print plan send me free ink for 3€/month

i get ink when the cartrige is low in ink

crazy move for photo print who cost a lot of ink

[dark minnow]

btw fun fact when it says low ink, you can still do a lot of prints on the cartridge

low ink warnings are just to force you to buy more ink

We have epson printers at my school that basically run the entire semester on low ink

[magic crown]

yeah but in my case i got free ink
insane trick

[dark minnow]

indeed

[dark minnow]

what paper do you use?

[magic crown]

and Canon is really precise in low ink
i printed an image with a first warning and it run out of ink just after

[magic crown]

Glossy ii a4

[dark minnow]

I hate glossy, too much glare

[magic crown]

i don't do smaller bc it's well...small

[magic crown]

this one is really soft but i will also buy matte paper for my clients

like that they will have choice

[dark minnow]

yeah, i have a few prints (about 50) in a4 and its not the best format for details

[magic crown]

i only use official paper and ink cartrige from Canon and the quality is so good

[dark minnow]

Ftm im forced to use a4 glossy but next semester i might get some luster

[dark minnow]

one nice paper in glossy a4 is Epson

https://www.amazon.ca/-/fr/S042175-Premium-Papier-brillant-feuilles/dp/B001441YFQ/ref=asc_df_B001441YFQ?mcid=f13abfe061613583b5b7da74d2ce7bf6&tag=cafrdeshadgo-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=724391170484&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=7134367090575893792&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9000369&hvtargid=pla-306218018805&psc=1&language=fr_CA&gad_source=1

[magic crown]

Here the image quality

[dark minnow]

Ooh nice actually

[magic crown]

https://www.amazon.fr/Canon-Glossy-papier-13x18cm-feuilles/dp/B00CCSVOE4/ref=sr_1_1?__mk_fr_FR=ÅMÅŽÕÑ&crid=25M2S7ZVSVSN1&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.sTQHC78cnV7TKtXkKFJby-cVZWlF_cKRUO1yMM4RdaIJJRXaufygCkRNN_AseGYLC9DCLGCieljjIjbB9AdcUe0u72xvhtO2jevbEjlrRWherTknFuziE5Qvw-KCrQn1d9kx6Dfz1HFI7nGpkDzUAlDU75NUsqTS_VsbzRiX9ymwbp2WSZdFAT4Yvk7C8A0Ef3Ad1eReafZz-CwSbMwvuzxCpZR_7o06ZzRuj4Epr5JNs4OnjvNUSbW2B0Z_MSEQzi9xQVLR5O1fIY8uXRbYCIwa46ILjlTHFZOwbTVsSoQ.EvkgQ8na57g3FdUCUTtYWKyHsUakbfKNWeVV4Pi46ng&dib_tag=se&keywords=papier%2Bphoto%2Bglossy%2Bcanon&qid=1767665321&sprefix=papier%2Bphoto%2Bglossy%2Bcano%2Caps%2C285&sr=8-1&th=1&language=en_GB

u use this one

[magic crown]

50€ is very excessive

[dark minnow]

The only print I have on hand is that one so can’t show off that Epson paper

[magic crown]

https://www.amazon.fr/Canon-2028048-Papier-dImpression/dp/B00FL1MQDC/ref=sr_1_2?__mk_fr_FR=ÅMÅŽÕÑ&crid=37X1RVKFEF0W&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.6WzhNjFnQhwf9xweidBg_RdKcGA7rVtiHAdFHp-1Dl__WVpEkeQaKpIfHyLexY64TOQcFPah8q0gRdB33VDmDPXrh6pCfHW02jQ3IUZbxa00kQHx-SB6qXcN_BVgPi8LK-iLiDixJa5umcxCaEjrC6ombh-_3lGzWB93pxoRtZ7KslV1AK7oG83qMJkeXhkmDXnKlEOTYQ9aawwUSph21sdq2qsOWi0kEljX61gSk87S2hizlNBo62QsIxWfyskXTSwueOrzJWN6h7IbWYDsgzgu0d2WfTUM2LfFJ8NUum0.y59hlgratJHqSXtSavu9sCmcmTBwqhZCSQ7Din3_oF0&dib_tag=se&keywords=papier%2Bmat%2Bcanon%2Ba4&qid=1767665428&sprefix=papier%2Bmat%2Bcanon%2Ba%2Caps%2C285&sr=8-2&th=1

and this one soon

[dark minnow]

I swear it’s way too expensive

[magic crown]

Canon is so good with their printers, ink and paper

damn my new ink cartrige are already shipped

[dark minnow]

Canon is also good with shipping then i guess

[magic crown]

cost 0€

[dark minnow]

even better then amazon prime

[magic crown]

arrive this friday

damn that's fast

[dark minnow]

thats indeed quite the speed

my mom got me a sweater for christmas, arrived yesterday

she ordered it on the 20th

[magic crown]

what a delay

[dark minnow]

came from NZ so im not surprised

[magic crown]

off topic but i'm so excited to go shot griffon vulture wednesday

[dark minnow]

ooooooh

[magic crown]

one of my objective of 2026

[dark minnow]

on the same topic im probably gonna try and find snowy owls this weekend

[magic crown]

both "rare" birds

one day i will go to Canada or Québec

[dark minnow]

I know a spot where one has been spotted repeatedly for the past 30 days

[dark minnow]

come over, i'll show you around

[magic crown]

with pleasure and maybe you will do the same in south france

[dark minnow]

i could, i have some family noth of marseille

[magic crown]

so much thing to see here

pretty common to me now but rare for the country

[dark minnow]

Over the last 30 days

[magic crown]

damn what a spot

i'm dying fiding and tawny owl

[dark minnow]

Last 3 days

[magic crown]

and you just found the cheat code

[dark minnow]

Yeah it’s THE spot in my area

Apparently some people are feeding them tho

[magic crown]

but Griffon Vulture is one of my dream shot those giant beast are so insane to see

one of the rarest bird then whe can hear the lift of the wing

[dark minnow]

I just realized I might have a hard time finding owls tho

Gonna be snowing a lot

[magic crown]

at least it can give an insane shot

[dark minnow]

It can yeah

That’s if my AF doesn’t fuck me up

[magic crown]

maybe this winter in the alps i will see a Royal Eagle

[dark minnow]

Ooooh

[magic crown]

use dmf

[dark minnow]

Dmf?

I saw a bald eagle while driving the other day

[magic crown]

the autofocus will stop where you said to focus and you can continue the focus manually

[magic crown]

here it's full of buzzard and kite

buzzard in winter and kite in summer

[dark minnow]

Damn lucky you

[magic crown]

but like a WHOLE flock around 30 in flight last time i did black kite and royal kite

[dark minnow]

Goddamn

One thing I saw a while back was how gulls fight bald eagles

[magic crown]

they love dried fields and my region is full of it

[dark minnow]

Pretty remarkable

[magic crown]

yeah they mobbing

like jay with owls

[dark minnow]

Bro there was a flock of like 60 gulls for a juvenile BE

[magic crown]

all in one ALL TO ONE

[magic crown]

we don't even call them eagle in french lmao

[dark minnow]

Yeah I know

[magic crown]

that so funny

it's like the beared vulture

[dark minnow]

Pygargue à tête blanche

[magic crown]

it's gypaète barbu

[dark minnow]

I did not know that and I’m now disturbed

[magic crown]

the name is even cooler

well time to sleep for me it's 3am here

gn

[dark minnow]

i hate the sound of herons

so creepy

sounds like someone is getting strangled

[dark minnow]

gn

[charred holly]

Meanwhile, cormorant be like

"O"

[shut hazel]

I just remembered lego made a Kingfisher set

I want it

[spice silo]

low quality but a nice scene i think

[dusty fog]

very cool

[gilded yarrow]

I have it

Its pretty cool

Also look guys

Will edit once I'm home

He was sitting in the middle of the road and its been snowing a lot the last few days

[spring vault]

vertical w tree is good

edit out the other background stuff and ur good

[spice silo]

Shot a kingfisher today everything is frozen tho so no fish

But yea the set looks really cool

[gilded yarrow]

Yee I mightve cooked with that one, we'll see

Hoping theres no heat haze from my car

[magic crown]

Starting to print things for the next exhibit

[gilded yarrow]

Overdone?

Tried adding some contrast & lighting to the bird

[wide flint]

Damn snowy owls are so sick

We had one in our backyard in the Netherlands im 2008 for like a month

It was so busy, everyone wanted to come watch

[charred holly]

Looks crazy good, all details seem to be there and sharpness is impressive

[gilded yarrow]

Thanks Yeah I got lucky haha, most pics werent as sharp

[charred holly]

I also have some herons in my area, this was the closest I was able to get

[gilded yarrow]

I've seen soooo many the last few days

[storm helm]

taken with the 70- 350?

[spice silo]

Yea but very high iso bc the sun wasnt fully out/it was a bit in shade and i used very fast ss

[storm helm]

yeah for that bird you need very fast ss

i can not see high iso there

iso is not a problem with ai denoise

[spice silo]

Yea but the high iso + denoise makes it a bit soft and the colors looked off, had to correct

It was iso 12800 at least if not higher

[storm helm]

iso 12800 is okay

[spice silo]

I think it was 25600 tho

I dont remember tho

20k or 25,6k probably

[storm helm]

you use ligthroom?

[spice silo]

Yea

[grizzled nebula]

i have a few birds i want to take pictures of in june

i need to go back to camargue tho

Common kingfisher, European bee-eater, European roller, Hoopoe, Cirl bunting are the birds i wanna get pictures of

well tbf i can get some kingfishers where i am but i can't get them with nice backgrounds

[terse dust]

Gotta build a perch then

[deep vigil]

Sometimes I hit the max iso on my camera 😔

Sometimes I panorama a swan

[charred holly]

ISO is not a problem until denoise turns a ball of feather into a smooth ball of uniform plastic

Which has happened too many time for me to admit lol

[deep vigil]

Yeah... Sometimes I don't know if a shot will denoise well or not 🤷‍♀️

[sharp ether]

same

when there's too little light and my shutter speed is too fast

I keep my shutter speed at 1/500 and my aperture at f6.3 for normal situations

Sometimes I forget to change my shutter speed when it's too dark

That's when ISO shoots up

[charred holly]

I use the "low shutter speed, burst and pray" technique

[terse dust]

The paperweight arrived

[deep vigil]

Nice

My birding lens

[terse dust]

She fits

[fast knoll]

dang i only go 1/500 when im in low light haha

usually i try to keep above 1/800 or 1/1000

but my camera handles higher iso super well

[sharp ether]

I usually start birding at dawn so light conditions change a lot and I found that 1/500 is good for both low light and bright light situations, it's kind of an all rounder imo
I usually go lower when it's too dark but my ideal setting is 1/800 or 1/1000 at f8 for stationary subjects in sunlight

[fast knoll]

i wish smaller birds would just sit still for a second lol

so jumpy

average small bird photo

i dont think the r5 autofocus is fast enough to react to these types of movement either

[sharp ether]

Yeah that's why I'm scared of keeping low shutter speed because a grainy photo is better than a blurry photo

[fast knoll]

yep i agree

only if theyre super tame will i go lower

[dusty fog]

imagine your heart rate was 5x as fast

😂

[terse dust]

Is that a pelican?

[wise trench]

Not quite lol

[terse dust]

Must be one of those fancy birds

[wise trench]

Sorry lol, it’s not a bird photo (I know this is the birb form) just saw we were sharing bgs and I thought this photo I took awhile back looked cool as one

[terse dust]

It's pretty cool

[magic crown]

Today is the big day !
Going to a spot for griffon vulture

[fair glade]

i love birds so much, i only use a 300mm lense though and ive only explored my neighbourhood

unfortunately the starling was edited a lot because it was really dark

[spice silo]

A bit late but i checked iso, it was shot with 20k

[storm helm]

Its normal

[spice silo]

20k backlit so the birds are kinda dark still thats just wjy the iq isnt that great

And also cropped a bit yea

20k isnt that high itself tho, right

[charred holly]

It depends on your sensor

An OM1 will get twice the noise of an A7V at 20k iso

[spice silo]

Yea, on a6700 its a bit high imo when you crop a bit and have to lift shadows like hete

[charred holly]

I know right lol

6400 iso already feels borderline useless if I want any fur or feather details on my a6700

[spice silo]

What lens are you using?

[charred holly]

70-350 too

Well it depends tbh

iso 6400 can look ok sometimes

[magic crown]

Vulture time !

[gilded yarrow]

Ohh you found them

Congrats

One of my fav birds, havent seen one yet tho

[magic crown]

Yeah there a whole flock actually

[spice silo]

If its brightly exposed sure. If you need to raise shadows diffrent story

Ai denoise helps a lot tho

[charred holly]

Yeah I guess that's the issue

Black birds are a nightmare in that regard

[dark minnow]

Decided I’m going to look for snowy owls today as well

[analog kindle]

Nice

[fast knoll]

So cool

Would u ever upgrade to 6700?

[magic crown]

Maybe for AI autofocus but otherwise maybe not

[dark minnow]

Still no luck finding one

[dark minnow]

Oooh

Feels like looking for a needle in a haystack

[magic crown]

Just finished this one (the angle was really hard to get at this range)

[dark minnow]

Really beautiful one

[analog kindle]

How typical

[dark minnow]

Got any tips?

[magic crown]

Thanks

[analog kindle]

Nothing other than driving every dirt road in sight
Poles and fields, poles and fields 😂
GL!

[dark minnow]

💀

I swear it’s a pain in the ass

[analog kindle]

Fr I lowkey hate snowy owl birding

And it's all to see a white dot a quarter mile away

Then you try to convince yourself it's worth it

Lol I'm sorry

However tho if you do get one cool moment with one it is the best feeling in the world

[dark minnow]

Bah its okay

[dark minnow]

Yeah I hope I see one for that tho

At least the roads are paved

[dark minnow]

Literally in the center of all these spots

[magic crown]

this one is so good the wingspan is HUGE

[dark minnow]

Just saw a bunch of snow buntings but a dude past by them like crazy and they all flew away 😭

[fast knoll]

Fire

[spice silo]

kingfisher

I also really like those nice lighting, wich one is the best in your opinion?

[fast knoll]

first or third

with a little editing u can get rid of that almost blown out spot and make it look super nice

[spice silo]

thanks, i thought its a somewhat nice highlight to keep in especially in the first one. Will try to reduce it especially with the third image

[charred holly]

Nice tits

Joke aside, I have yet to get a good shot of these birds. They are always the first to fly away when I approach them.

[shut hazel]

[spice silo]

i think they are more curious than some other birds tho

[magic crown]

Nice what

[grizzled nebula]

i want one in my hand

[spice silo]

Same

[wide flint]

No you don't

Tits are a pain in the ass to hold

They will bite the fuck out of ur fingers, especially where your nails meet your skin

[charred holly]

Really not as much as robins, those are absolutely fearless

[spice silo]

But cute

Worth it

[grizzled nebula]

Wear gloves

[wide flint]

Almost impossible to properly handle such small birds properly with gloves on

[magic crown]

Or just don't be weak

[gilded yarrow]

Befriending some crows lmao

[grizzled nebula]

I Need to go out today cause there's no hunters out for once

[magic crown]

You made me want to feed the pigeons at the park lmao

[gilded yarrow]

Lool yeah pigeons are funny too but crows are a lot smarter

[magic crown]

yeah but piegon fights like men

[gilded yarrow]

Saw some ravens in the snow on tuesday, wouldve made for some amazing photos but sadly they were way too far away

[storm helm]

@spice silo after few days with the 70 350, is it enough for birding?

[spice silo]

Imo yes. Especially at the spots where i am. Sure more would be more but i dont feel like it would make my images better at all tbh

For some spots i went to longer lens would have been nicer but its not a issue for me. But like i am coming from 55-210 and i'm still fairly new to wildlife

But i certainly dont think of regretting not getting a longer lens

[storm helm]

It's difficult. The size is definitely a factor. But I can get a Tamron 150 500 for only €150 more.

[storm helm]

However, the quality of the 55 210 is also extremely poor.

[spice silo]

Yea, its shit

[storm helm]

That's nothing compared to the 70 350.

[spice silo]

If it would be just for birding i would go for 150-500 then. But i love the 70-350 also for other genres of photography or take it with me when i travel

If its only like 150€

[storm helm]

I can get it for 650€

I can Not find a 70 350 for less then 500 here

[spice silo]

I mean as you know i bought it very cheaply in a bundle with a6700 but personally, just for birding i would definetly prefer the tamron because if i go birding its not that big anyway

Its just big for going on walks nearby, traveling or other genres imo

But thats just my opinion

[storm helm]

Its around 1kg more

Friend of mine is traveling with 200 600

Thats heavier and 10cm bigger

[spice silo]

Yea certainly can do it, i wouldnt want to

[spice silo]

Currently i go birding at one specific location most of the times, and i dont walk that much there. Wouldnt be much of an issue for me i think

[storm helm]

For travelling, I would only take two lenses with me anyway: the 17–70 and the telephoto zoom. Is it really so bad that I have an extra kilo in my hand luggage?

[spice silo]

Its not about the luggage imo

I just dont want to carry it around

Or i would take it out less, for travel this is a big downside for me

[storm helm]

The 200 600 is really too big for me. Simply because of its size. It's also a bit heavier. And it costs almost twice as much. So it's not interesting to me anyway.

[storm helm]

I would only have one problem when hiking, but I think I would leave the other one at home too.

[spice silo]

Have you been able to try the lenses in a store or smt?

Because 70-350 size and weight wise is somewhat similar to 17-70

[charred holly]

I wish Sony would release more APSC super teles, sadly FF has all the swag

Something like a 400 or 500 prime maybe?

[spice silo]

Just use the ff ones

[charred holly]

I bought APSC not to have a télescope sized lens lol

[spice silo]

Thats what mft is for, not a brand thats focused on ff and apsc is their budget lineup

Sigma 500mm f5.6 is cool ig

[storm helm]

In fact, the Tamron is three times as heavy:
625 g vs. 1750 g.

[storm helm]

Price not

[spice silo]

Yea

70-350 is the perfect tele for me currently tbh

[deep vigil]

MFT mentioned

[charred holly]

I mean, might as well by a bridge. P1100 anyone?

[storm helm]

You have 70 350 too?

[charred holly]

yup

[spice silo]

Mft is really nice if you want smallish wildlife setup

[deep vigil]

Like this?

[spice silo]

200mm f2.8 + tc?

[deep vigil]

Yes

560mm equivalent

[spice silo]

Cool

[charred holly]

Looking great

[spice silo]

But there are nicer lenses iirc if you really care abt size on mft

[deep vigil]

I used to have a smaller 100-300 II

But I sold it

[spice silo]

Olympus 100-400mm f5-6.3 also sounds really cool

But idk much abt mft tbh

iirc the newer om1's have great s/n or dynamic range for its sensor size

Also those are very fast cameras

[charred holly]

I also have a Sigma 16-300, not the sharpest but it is unmatched for its versatility

[fast knoll]

that looks decently sharp to me

[spice silo]

Yea always switching lenses is a bit annoying but i am still not sold on superzooms

The sigma is decently sharp tho especially fot a superzoom iirc

[deep vigil]

Pic with my setup

[spice silo]

Not 70-350 levels sure but decent

[spice silo]

Lovely

[fast knoll]

what setup is this

[deep vigil]

G9 + 200 2.8

[fast knoll]

ohh cool

[charred holly]

Yeah, I take it when I don't know if I will go for animals or landscape when hiking

[fast knoll]

how cropped is that photo?

[spice silo]

I just kinda bring 17-70 f2.8 and 70-350 everywhere xD

[deep vigil]

Lots on the top and bottom, little bit on the sides

[fast knoll]

export quality prob a tiny bit low then

[deep vigil]

Definitely

[charred holly]

lol, I also have the obligatory 18-50, but sometimes I don't want to bother other people with lens switching

[spice silo]

@storm helm one more thing, note that most people i know that bought 70-350 want or already have a longer lens for birding now

[spice silo]

Idc

Fair, its annoying sometimes

[fast knoll]

apsc + 200-600 is a dream combo for birding

[spice silo]

If they dont want to wait for me switching lenses they are not worth my time (jk ofc)

[fast knoll]

idk why canon wont just make a 200-600 lol

they have to be special and do 100-500

i guess the 200-800 is unique but

[storm helm]

But soo expensive

[fast knoll]

not an L lens

[fast knoll]

yea bird photography is pay to win

[spice silo]

Depends on region etc tbh but yea its expensive

[charred holly]

150-600 is a thing for Canon anyway

[spice silo]

Got 70-350 nearly for free

[storm helm]

150 500 650€
200 600 1200€
70 350 500€

[fast knoll]

yea idk how well it works on canon mirrorless tho

[spice silo]

70-350 a bit overpriced in your region imo

[fast knoll]

honestly this is less than what i thought

$1400 usd for 200-600 is a good deal

[storm helm]

Used prices

[fast knoll]

yea ik

if it's decent condition idc if it's used

[spice silo]

Its easily found for 450€ but you dont want shipping

[storm helm]

150 500 is 790€ new
70 350 is 600€ new
200 600 is 1450€ new

[fast knoll]

more affordable than canon lol

[spice silo]

My opinion is that 70-350 is enough range for birding but if you dont mind the size go 150-500, if you do just het 70-350

[charred holly]

just tape two 70-350 together for cheap 200-600

[spice silo]

I mean you can test it out and sell if you want smt smaller or with more reach

[fast knoll]

u already have like 525mm ff right

that's more than i have already

[spice silo]

Dont overthink it

[spice silo]

Yea

[fast knoll]

500 is pretty good already

[spice silo]

I think its plenty, more is cool but not neccesery

[storm helm]

350 is 525

[fast knoll]

yea i agree

u can get small birds but u have to be patient

also helps if u have more mp to crop in a little

[storm helm]

I loaned an 100 400 and it was difficult

[spice silo]

I kinda only shoot smaller birds with it for now

But its also diffrent depending on the bird and location

[spice silo]

Then get the tamron

[fast knoll]

r u currently looking for a birding lens?

[storm helm]

Wildlife

Not only Bird

[charred holly]

Increasing bird length is cheaper than increasing focal length

[fast knoll]

yea big subjects r nice and easy

thats why i like herons

i started to try to do smaller birds tho

[storm helm]

I Had the 100 400 one day and it was so much fun

[spice silo]

I really like to shoot small birds idk they are so fast and look cute xD

[storm helm]

But yeah ITS big and the Tamron is alot heavier (Not bigger)

[fast knoll]

yea theyre so fluffy

this is my best one so far

[charred holly]

Some small birds like robins are absolutely fearless

[fast knoll]

38 mp barely cropped

[charred holly]

I swear some of them actually posed for me

[fast knoll]

prob a very rare occassion where i get an uncropped small bird

[spice silo]

If the 400mm havent really been enough already why are you even thinking abt it tbh

[storm helm]

Because the size and weight of the Sony can be unbeatably useful

[spice silo]

Yea it can be a bit difficult especially to get a good bg etc

[spice silo]

Then get the sony and learn getting closer

[fast knoll]

yea theyre always hanging out in a billion different sticks and branches

[storm helm]

I will see If they sell me 150 500 for 650€ i will get that because price is way below average

If i do Not use ist enough because of size i should get the Money Back pretty easy

[spice silo]

Last shot, these are low res bc i am only on phone rn and i just send them trough whatsapp but for some i could get really close and get some detail

First image is a bit cooked editing wise tho ik

[magic crown]

at 200mm btw (300mm aps-c)

[storm helm]

Is that at nigth?

[spice silo]

No

[storm helm]

Awesome

[spice silo]

In shade tho with the sun shining trough clouds

[magic crown]

tele are mostly for pretty far subject and tiny ones

[spice silo]

Experimented a bit to much in editing

[magic crown]

for large one 400mm is already good enough

[charred holly]

That is a dynamic range stress test

[spice silo]

Dynamic range isnt a issue at all here tbh plenty detail

I just cooked it myself in editing lol

It was late

[spice silo]

But for the second and last one the bg is so great imo

I will probably send full res tomorrow

[deep vigil]

Bird spotted

[spice silo]

I want to shoot those so bad but i never get them to be at an good angle

[charred holly]

My bird knowledge is smol, what species is this?

[deep vigil]

It's tough

[deep vigil]

I think it's a woodpecker

[fast knoll]

bushtit

it's interesting how diff their eyes are compared to males

[spice silo]

Fluffy

[charred holly]

I think I posted this is another channel, taken from a kayak

[spice silo]

Me on phone looking at it vertically so black borders at top and bottom: where bird?

[charred holly]

Holding a 2000$ machine above water is a scary experience...

[spice silo]

Looks cool tho

[spice silo]

I am tired tho i should go to sleep

[charred holly]

Same, it is already tomorrow

Night

[spice silo]

Same here

[magic crown]

wich one you prefer ?

[fast knoll]

The third one

The widest crop

more centered than the first one and gives the wings more breathing room than the second

what a great shot

[magic crown]

This is a shot where you can see how big the wingspan is

[arctic siren]

i agree, widest. i want to feel how big the bird is. This image is best away from the minute details, and more on the wings, the altitude, the turn the bird is taking

[storm helm]

@spice silo He agreed 650€ for the 150 500

[light valley]

How big is that monster?

[left brook]

gotta find some friendly ones somewhere

[storm helm]

Smaler than the 200 600

[tender galleon]

blue tit eating first time trying video on this camera

(didnt edit that at all)

[magic crown]

All of that for like 3€ per frame

[wide flint]

Damn thats pretty nice

[magic crown]

Yeah it's for the next exhibit

[charred holly]

Cool, that's a magnificent pose

[fair glade]

those are yours?? i saw 3 of them on Pinterest i swear 😭

[fast knoll]

There r many good photos of birds online

And many look similar

[terse dust]

Too many BOAS nowadays

[fast knoll]

yea anyone with an expensive setup can take decent photos as long as they know the exposure triangle

not even exposure triangle these days tbh

if they know how shutter speed works just shoot wide open and auto iso

[charred holly]

And now with pre capture, you don't even need to have good reaction time

[magic crown]

Yes they are mine

[storm helm]

the sony 200 600 is huge

but its not getting bigger when zooming

its internal zoom

for transportation the tamron seems just ok

But if you're hiking all day, even the Tamron is probably too heavy.

[spice silo]

Yea

[astral saffron]

I hike with a lens about the same weight no problem

[deep vigil]

My birding setup is like 2kg

I guess I'm not counting the new tripod

But I need to put batteries in my scale

[storm helm]

so you say i should buy the 150 500 for 650€?

[astral saffron]

2.5kg camera and lens plus camping equipment

[deep vigil]

I fortunately don't need to bring camping equipment with me 😆

[gilded yarrow]

no birds

[deep vigil]

I should go look for birds tbh

[storm helm]

bad day here too

[astral saffron]

This was in Kazakhstan for an overnight trip but sometimes you need to venture out into the wilderness to get to certain species

[deep vigil]

It's dark and rainy here this morning, not too daunting for me, but I don't hear any birds either

[deep vigil]

Gotcha, I have never gone out of my way to get a specific species, I go for good pics of regular birds haha

Sparrows, catbirds, bluejays, cardinals, mockingbirds, grackles..

Lots of waterfowl :3

[storm helm]

Thats true

[gilded yarrow]

yee I feel like my part of germany is especially bad for birding

literally nothing

[storm helm]

Where are you?

[gilded yarrow]

next bigger city is Hannover

[storm helm]

Ah
I am 100km to munich

[deep vigil]

I want to do some wide angle birding and I have a plan but I'm afraid

I can set my camera to interval shooting, next to some bait, during the right time of day...

[storm helm]

nah

[deep vigil]

But I don't want the birds to

• claw up the top of my camera
• poop on it

[astral saffron]

Get a remote shutter

[storm helm]

You need a remote shutter release.

[deep vigil]

I use my phone as a remote shutter

[storm helm]

thats fine

but no interval shots

[deep vigil]

Ok lol

I just need to find a way to protect the camera from the birds 😔

[storm helm]

its not interesting for them

[gilded yarrow]

only bird I got to photograph smh

[storm helm]

but its nice

open mouth

[charred holly]

All my favorite birds go like this :V

[grizzled nebula]

firecrest

house sparrow

firecrests are a pain in the arse to get pictures of

[charred holly]

Yeah, they move a lot

[grizzled nebula]

they're also in the worst possible trees

[green meadow]

Blue tit made a surprise attack 😅

[grizzled nebula]

last one looks like he's holding a sword and ready to stab the other blue tit 😭

bird where i am are too peaceful

really nice photos btw

[deep vigil]

Byord

[green meadow]

These are mostly peaceful too, but some times they argue bit about who was first on a food line. 😅

[green meadow]

thanks 👋

[grizzled nebula]

wow

i wish we had these in france

[deep vigil]

🚬 this is probably my favorite, idk if I've posted it here

[grizzled nebula]

we have eurasian jays in france

they're nice but not as nice as bluejays

[deep vigil]

Bluejays aren't particularly rare here, I find them in my garden all the time 😁

[charred holly]

Yeah there are some nice blue birds in France (excuse the not so great photo)

[grizzled nebula]

i want to get a picture of a european bee eater so bad

european rollers are the closest we have to bluejays

[deep vigil]

I have a bluejay in the snow somewhere

[grizzled nebula]

not my photo but look at this

goddamn beautiful

[tender galleon]

what a cool scene 🔥

love your photos

[grizzled nebula]

i love tits

[fast knoll]

Same

The birds r cool too

[green meadow]

Thank you for your kind words 😊 👋

[terse dust]

Rain cover

[wide flint]

For what species did u go to Kazachstan

[astral saffron]

I went to Kazakhstan specifically to hike, not for wildlife photography

I had my lens with me in case I came across anything interesting

Did more landscapes than anything else

[fast knoll]

youre getting better

these r nice

[fair glade]

does the nikon d5100 have that

[left brook]

nope

no DSLRs have precap afaik

[charred holly]

Precap is a fairly recent feature yup

It allows you to go from bird on a stick to bird flying out of a stick lol

[grizzled nebula]

lil guy chilling in the grass

impossible to get closer to him unfortunately

but i'll try again tomorrow

[dark minnow]

Guys there’s a European Robin in Montreal

[fast knoll]

i saw that on ebird

didnt it come in on a boat or something

where is it now

[dark minnow]

idk sadly

[dark minnow]

i think so

[grizzled nebula]

TITS!

[grizzled nebula]

silly

[fair glade]

settings?

[fast knoll]

someone has an ef 600 f4 ii on facebook marketplace for 5k

[grizzled nebula]

seems to be a normal price

[fast knoll]

normal??

[grizzled nebula]

yh

[fast knoll]

where r u seeing other ones like that

[grizzled nebula]

ebay

[fast knoll]

hmm i see

[grizzled nebula]

it sells between 5000-7000 euros

[fast knoll]

5000 US dollars tho

im trying to get it down to 4500

then i might seriously consider

[grizzled nebula]

ok 5000 usd is insane

seems very very low

is it in bad condition?

[fast knoll]

no

apparently it's flawless

the guy said he's desperate for money

im kinda considering it but also idk when i would use this lens

seems like a pain in the ass to transport

[grizzled nebula]

Worth it

[fast knoll]

im trying to get it down to 4500

but if he also has an ef 1.4x iii maybe i'll ask him to throw that in too

[grizzled nebula]

5500 euros is 6422.62 USD

SMH

[magic crown]

i will never understand ppl putting +1 f-stop

the sharpness gain is so ridiculous

[grizzled nebula]

i'm ngl i might need to go to the US and get a lens there lmao

[grizzled nebula]

i never do it

[magic crown]

[grizzled nebula]

imagine going to F/8 lol

F/7.1 is already dark enough

[fast knoll]

this isnt normal lol

rare good price

[grizzled nebula]

the average price of lenses is a LOT cheaper than the average price in france

[magic crown]

i will necer understand #⚡・gallery-picks and #⚡・featured-photos

the choices are sometimes weird

[spring vault]

picks is the pics the mods think r good and featured is the pics the mods think r rly good

[magic crown]

i mean some shots are just ok but

a lot of them are really good

[spring vault]

dont need to agree with every decision its all subjective after all

[magic crown]

yeah real

[shut hazel]

telephoto prime lenses are funng

[deep vigil]

Indeed

[shut hazel]

i think its kinda odd to spend like 10k on a non zoomable lens with a set focal range thars very long

[fast knoll]

well it's a very specific use case

that happens to be required for most bird photography

but yea primes r super crazy

[deep vigil]

I love my prime

[dusty fog]

its the only way to get that kind of performance though, to get a lens that's 600 f/4 that zooms would be 2/3x the cost

[shut hazel]

yeah

I can see how u can use it but its kinda

Ehhhh

Yk

[shut hazel]

yeah thats true too

[fast knoll]

it also handles teleconverters super well

most zoom lenses shit the bed

so u can get up to 1200mm without a significant drop in IQ

of course heat haze and factors beyond reach will affect IQ at that point

plus the insane low light performance

[gilded yarrow]

working out so I can carry that 600 f/4 one day 🙏

[shut hazel]

Ooo

[grizzled nebula]

What prime u got

[deep vigil]

Leica DG 200mm f2.8 IS + 1.4X

[grizzled nebula]

Short

[deep vigil]

560mm equivalent

[terse dust]

Enter the sigma 300-600 f/4

But that thing weighs approximately one fuckton

[silent coral]

which orientation?

unedited picture

[tender galleon]

first one 100%

good pic ❤️

[wide flint]

On Madeira for a week, only have my 24-70 with me but the birds here are so tame that I actually managed to get some decent shots

70mm birding go bbbrrrrr

[shut hazel]

backlit but i still like it

[deep vigil]

bird :)

[dark minnow]

That European robin is getting some attention I’d say

[terse dust]

Holy moly

[terse dust]

Bokeh got me feeling dizzy

[magic crown]

and here it's so common

[dark minnow]

yup id guess the same would happen if an american bird would end up in europe

[gilded yarrow]

Yup it was exactly the same when the mockingbird was in germany like a year ago

People flew here from England etc to see it

I saw it too since it was not even 2km away from where my dad lives

[dark minnow]

yeah typical rich retired birders behaviour

[gilded yarrow]

Lmao yep

iirc they came here the day it was spotted, insane behaviour ngl

[dark minnow]

thats insane

[charred holly]

There is enough money to solve world hunger here

[sharp ether]

lol

[fast knoll]

why dont they just go to europe on vacation at that point

[charred holly]

Literally flipping my bird for my American folks

[shut hazel]

Gah

[dusty fog]

euro robin much cuter than freedom robin

https://tenor.com/view/picture-taking-pictures-photography-photographing-flash-gif-5958521

[fast knoll]

i agree

[sharp ether]

https://tenor.com/view/yes-gif-24481844

[dark minnow]

Yeah freedom robin is lowkey scary looking

[shut hazel]

wtf is a freedom robin

like an american robin?

[sharp ether]

yes

[shut hazel]

lmao

[spring vault]

here's a freedom robin attempting to build a nest on my aunt's patio ceiling fan

[dark minnow]

I say from now we, as the members of this forum, must refer to the American robin (Turdus migratorius) as the “Freedom Robin”

[half yacht]

Missed an opportunity to get some shots of a hawk like thing maybe a harrier (something of thag nature) that wad flying around today 😢

[silent coral]

my bad haha

[silent coral]

okay, thanks

[magic crown]

Well ready to see if someone live inside soon

[grizzled nebula]

wish i had a garden like this

[magic crown]

It's a private area who i'm allowed to put the nest

It's not my garden

[grizzled nebula]

ah

[shut hazel]

private domicile

[terse dust]

And I will not be harassed

[wide flint]

With the spectacled Eider we have in the Netherlands it was even more insane, people came from Bulgaria and even India. Since normally u need to go to Alaska or Russia to even get a slight chance of seeing it

[wide flint]

Madeiran Finch, on the 24-70, nearly touched this guy with my lens lol

[fast knoll]

dang theyre so chill

[half yacht]

How tf did you get that close, how did you get this with a 24-70

Teach me your ways 🙏 🙏 🙏

[charred holly]

That looks incredible, that kind of shot with a standard zoom is kinda insane lol

[wide flint]

Find some very tame birds lmao. These guys were at a tourist parking spot, so very used to humans. In the end he was about 5cm from my lens lol

[shut hazel]

holy

what focal length were u at ?

[wide flint]

70mm

[wide flint]

HOLY FUCK, had a red legged partridge come within a meter of me today

Saw 2 of them walking next to the trail, went ahead and down to cut them off and they just walked right by me

[analog kindle]

-# also rip discord compression

500mm, f/4, ISO 8000, 2"

Eastern Screech Owl

[terse dust]

Beautiful

[deep vigil]

Two seconds?

[grizzled nebula]

owl!

lucky

[grizzled nebula]

it's a night shot

[analog kindle]

yepper, you can tell how dark it was by how dilated his eyes are

[analog kindle]

haha yeah only took 2 years and dozens of failed outings

[grizzled nebula]

i have owls around here usually but i haven't heard them in a few months

I do know a place where they are more common but it’s not very safe to go to at night

[analog kindle]

thats exactly how I feel about this place lol
Always sus people around

[magic crown]

i'm actually trying to got a shot of an owl
it's not that easy

[charred holly]

I am still stuck at the "find an owl" step lol

The only one I have ever seen has at the side of the road and flew away as soon as I noticed it

[magic crown]

i heard them but never seen one yet (but soon i go to a park where owls nests)

[scarlet tulip]

Summer archive shot, I forgot about this one

[wide flint]

Wait praetor is back

I was getting worried, saw you left the server a few days ago

[scarlet tulip]

I decided it’s better to just mute half the server and enjoy the bird/gallery channels

[shut hazel]

wo

[echo rain]

Took this one about a yr ago

[gilded yarrow]

Same

saw two wild ones, got good photos of one

Know where a 3rd one lives but havent been there in a few months

[charred holly]

Well... actually I have seen an owl from very close

It was a captive one during a trip to rural Japan

Poor thing 🙁

[fast knoll]

staring off into the sunset

[shut hazel]

holy sharp

[scarlet tulip]

hooray for 18k

[magic crown]

If guys you are interested to see the nest during the whole mating season i can give you an access to see it

[echo rain]

which bird is the nesting box for ?

[gilded yarrow]

Whichever one gets it first

hole is about tit sized

[echo rain]

@gilded yarrow I captured a pretty close up picture of a tufted titmouse recently

You want to see ?

[gilded yarrow]

Ohhh thats pretty cool

I wish we'd have such tame birds here where I live

Never seen that before

[grizzled nebula]

bald!

lucky

i wish i could have a small bird on my hand

[echo rain]

I had a few land on my hand that day I went to this park

[magic crown]

Yeah it's great tit sized

[grizzled nebula]

😏

[deep vigil]

Omfg

[magic crown]

[deep vigil]

Happy to show off a tit

[gilded yarrow]

See, I know my tits

[magic crown]

[charred holly]

There are two certainty in life, taxes and tit jokes

[deep vigil]

I have tit pics, now I need booby pics

[gilded yarrow]

your Name is Anna

Sounds like that should be an easy task

assuming youre not a male anna

[deep vigil]

Very funni

on the contrary, I don't need to take those pics

This chat is now about birds

[magic crown]

https://tenor.com/view/neuron-activation-neuron-gif-1455356329209493514

[shut hazel]

!!!!

[shut hazel]

yum

[magic crown]

My baby

[gilded yarrow]

Sick

I still havent printed my kingfisher photo

No money

[magic crown]

Sad

[charred holly]

Crazy shot, this was the closest I was able to get with my 70 350. They fly way too high...

[magic crown]

You need to go at morning you will see them take altitude fast and take shots like this one

(This is the shot)

[shut hazel]

Sadly the branches that were in front of the bird kinda made the photo look odd but otherwise am happy

[scarlet tulip]

Nice to get close to a hummingbird like that

[shut hazel]

a bunch of em just perch up in trees in my backyard or my neighbors

my neighbors all know my shenanigans so they dont really care if im in their yard

[fast knoll]

what lens?

[gilded yarrow]

Could be even sharper 100%

Its perfect for sharpening

[shut hazel]

50-400 tamron

[shut hazel]

O

i make sharper in editor?

[fast knoll]

also denoise it

i denoise even at super low iso

[gilded yarrow]

what do you use for editing?

[shut hazel]

lr mobile and darktable

[fast knoll]

how cropped is this btw u might wanna leave a little bit more around the edges

[gilded yarrow]

Yep same, somehow always helps a bit

[shut hazel]

although im not too good at darktable yet

[shut hazel]

and lr mobile free version

[gilded yarrow]

If you dont mind sending me the raw I could show you

[shut hazel]

once im.home sure

[shut hazel]

thats very nice

[fast knoll]

yea your photo reminds me of this

i would say crop a bit less tight

denoise it

and it'll look very nice

[shut hazel]

ive never gotten great hummingbird photos until this

[shut hazel]

I see

thanks

there was this shiny one i saw too

Idk if its a rufous cuz those are super orange

[fast knoll]

this is another one i saw

its head is completely not shiny bruh

it

[shut hazel]

oooo

[fast knoll]

it's an anna's

[deep vigil]

You rang

[fast knoll]

😂

[deep vigil]

[shut hazel]

ill probably go into my backyard more for hummingbird

I generally stayed on our deck and didnt try going down into the grass

but my feeder is also gone now so its a different story

what is the pink throat hummingbird called ahain?

ruby throated ?

[wide flint]

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DTdbq6ZjbDL/

jabaddams

Stop feeding the birds.

It's something I struggle to find myself saying, as I've done it almost all of my life. But over the last couple of years, as I've read more into it, I've become increasingly concerned about the whole thing.

One of the main arguments for feeding birds is that "we've taken away their natural food so we need to replace it...

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Interesting perspective, def think he makes a good point

[magic crown]

good point but not everyone have a garden

[scarlet tulip]

Birds are far from reliant on feeders

They will gladly visit if the seed at a given feeder is worth having, but they have plenty of natural food sources

The best argument against feeders is that they contribute to the spread of disease, which is why it’s good practice to clean them regularly and watch for sick birds so you can take them down if needed

Absolutely nothing wrong with planting native things, of course, but acting like feeders are some unholy blight on the landscape gives the birds too little credit

[sharp ether]

yes, this is what research tells us

[scarlet tulip]

There are still people who think you should take your hummingbird feeders in during migration season to keep the hummingbirds from sticking around

Like guys, these birds are literally hard-coded to migrate

They will do what their genes tell them to, and your plastic flower isn’t going to stop them

[wide flint]

No ofc not, but that wasnt the point

But I also think the fact that certain birds benefit way more from feeders, thus disrupting population numbers and possibly leading to outcompetion of birds who don't benefit from feeders is a problem

[half yacht]

This is so good whay

[split path]

Thanks

[half yacht]

I like the fish

[spring vault]

if you keep chickens cornell recommends taking down bird feeders to slow spread of bird flu to song birds

should also be regularly cleaning any bird feeder there's several other diseases that can b spread

supposed to clean hummingbird feeders twice a week

since that's a big pot of sugar water and will quickly grow nasty stuff

[echo rain]

@split path Is the lighting of this photo the original or did you do some post editing for the brightness ?

Took this one Dec of 2024

for this one would it be best to minimize the background and crop that out a bit ?

[split path]

I did some masks in Lightroom.

[echo rain]

Is lightroom a paid service ?

[terse dust]

Yes, there is a free version on mobile however u won't be able to edit RAW files

[echo rain]

oh okay but is it only for adjusting brightness on photos ?

[terse dust]

There are many different things u can do, so much so that I can't type out all of it. I'd recommend watching a quick guide or tutorial on Lightroom to see if it's right for u

[charred holly]

Mandarin ducks look so good, too bad they are so rare where I live

[grizzled nebula]

mid (0 jealousy)

i'm gonna go to scotland soon

hopefully gonna see some Atlantic puffins

and eagles ofc

[magic crown]

[magic crown]

[deep vigil]

it snode

[magic crown]

the fence in the background

otherwise that will be a really good shot

[deep vigil]

I would prefer some action but didn't get any rn

[terse dust]

Yeah the bokeh just ain't hitting right

[deep vigil]

I would go to the lake for snowy waterfowl again but honestly it's not a good day for that

[fast knoll]

u should export ur photos in higher res

will look a lot nicer

[deep vigil]

What resolution do you recommend?

[fast knoll]

idk i usually do like 60% on lightroom

i just say that because the pixels are very noticeable

[magic crown]

And for print 100%

[fast knoll]

yep for print maximum quality

this is just 60%

[scarlet tulip]

I have mine set to like 85 for internet exports

[fast knoll]

if u zoom in i dont think u can see any lack of quality

[magic crown]

still have good quality

[scarlet tulip]

Slight annoyance that I’ll only see one of these in a zoo, but they’re still fun to shoot

[deep vigil]

I have some bird prints

[magic crown]

100% quality for all images i share (most of them are for sales)

[gilded yarrow]

Huhhh

I always have it set to 100

[fast knoll]

Too much space lol

U don’t even notice a quality difference on any platform either

Only if u print u might notice something

For example this file is 818kb only

U might see the background noise but that’s from the iso12800

Not due to export settings

[fast knoll]

https://digital-photography-school.com/bird-photography-camera-setting/

what a terrible article 😭

points 1 and 3 are just not right

i'll cut him some slack i guess since it was posted at least 6 years ago

maybe he was using a dslr and high iso was unfixable in post for him

[scarlet tulip]

ISO used to be more of a factor

[fast knoll]

yea

but even 6 years ago in 2019 i feel like it wasnt the biggest issue

when did mirrorless come out?

[gilded yarrow]

thats a7iii times

so iso already wasnt really a problem

well, there was no ai denoise I guess

[fast knoll]

yea true

modern denoise is a miracle

[gilded yarrow]

100%

[deep vigil]

i decided to increase my quality

[fast knoll]

nice! looks a lot better

[deep vigil]

Cool

[magic crown]

Reading this got me cancer

[grizzled nebula]

https://tenor.com/view/eric-abidal-eric-abidal-gif-2514665552912894248

[fast knoll]

Can’t wait to edit this

Unedited

[scarlet tulip]

Puffman

[terse dust]

Is that full res?

[fast knoll]

Nah cropped to 13 MP

I just exported it from the camera ima edit it when I get home

[terse dust]

Should be nice

[fast knoll]

Yea I’ve never gotten a pic of an Anna’s with the pink head

Light was never in my side

[fast knoll]

it's kinda cool that u can see right through his beak lol

dang the head is so colorful

i only put saturation to 8 but it looks kinda oversatruated lol

last one

[magic crown]

The light

[left brook]

woahhhh