Bird Photography

[dusty fog]

love the tufted birbs

such nice color

well groomed

[spring vault]

Yeah these are by far the most common birds I see but i'm not quite sick of em yet

very cute

[dusty fog]

wow i wish there were more here

[spring vault]

beak is pretty mangled

[barren yoke]

wow

awesome closeup

[spring vault]

thx

280mm lol

theyre friendly

[barren yoke]

@fleet mica yo so what adapter would I get?

i want to see so I can plan things. I kinda wanna get a job

[ocean frigate]

this cant be the z9 is it?

oh i see its a large crop nvm

[fleet mica]

masks are a critical part of processing images imho

[fleet mica]

I presume breeding plumage?

[fleet mica]

I would get the official EF to RF adaptor. You just need the basic version, you don't need the version with the control ring. Some thoughts: R10 - good image quality and AF, but not so great above ISO 3200 imho. No IBIS. Video is inferior to the other Canon cameras in the range. R7 - better than the R10, better buffer too and better high ISO performance by around 1-1.5 stops. Better video. Both of these are crop cameras, so add a 1.6x to your lens focal length. Handy for smaller birds etc. Full frame - the original R6, which I recommended has excellent high ISO performance, AF a decent buffer and very good IQ, but is only 20mp, which will hurt if you need to crop and will overheat with 4k video for longer periods of time. Rolling shutter is an issue too with the slower sensor readout speed (this is even worse with the R10 and R7). The R6II, if you can get a well priced used 1 on the market (unlikely since it's a pretty new camera) is a big step up imho - 24mp, much better sensor readout speed, better EVF and LCD screen, no overheating, and improved AF performance and high ISO performance. The R5 is probably the best Canon camera for birds imho, simply cos of 45mp. The R3 is superb in all areas other than megapixel, being only 24mp. For larger birds, this is no issue. For smaller birds where you need to crop, it will hold you back some and you'll lose some resolution of detail vs the 45mp R5. In all other areas, it easily betters every other Canon camera in the R range.

Overheating - this really only applies to 4k video for longer periods of time and especially in warmer climates like Australia. In cooler climates, you'll be able to shoot for longer periods of time before the camera starts to overheat (R6/R5). If buying used, 1 question I would ask is if the camera(s) have been used for video, and if so, 1080p or 4k and shorter or longer videos. Take note of the location of the seller too, as this will give you an idea of the climate that they live in (hot/cold etc). Also ask them if they have used ES (Electronic Shutter) or MS (Mechanical Shutter) or EFCS (Electronic First Curtain Shutter). MS exposures should be noted, if a high number, then the shutter may be closer to failure. Most people today typically only shoot in ES mode btw.

[drifting silo]

Love the colors

I got a similar compo to urs, just flipped lol

And another flamingo shot

I love how theres a perfect ripple

[fleet mica]

you have flamingos in Germany?

[drifting silo]

Zoo

[drifting silo]

Hence why u can see some grey stripes in the out of focus area

[dusty fog]

you never heard of those german flamingos?

[barren yoke]

The one from Canon is 130$

I thought you said 70

And I won't shoot long videos, probably like 10 minutes at the most. Reviews said it overheats at 20-30

So do you think the r5 is better than the r6 then?

I saw an issue was with tracking focus. Have you experienced that?

I'm probably going to be looking at the r6 on mpb or some other place if it's cheaper.

Maybe I can get a job bc I really want an upgrade

[fleet mica]

oh wow! it's like AUD $150 here in Australia. Never expected it to be that high in the US given the currency exchange rate.

The R5 is better, but much more expensive used. 8k video, 45mp, better EVF and better sensor readout speed.

NO AF system is perfect. The R5 and R6 has excellent AF and will be a massive upgrade over your current camera.

Might I suggest finding a place where you can hire a R6 and the adaptor and try it out for a week. That way you can try it with your lens and get a feel for it.

BTW, do you use back button AF Libby?

[barren yoke]

Yes I do

I'm assuming I can remap it on r6 as well?

[fleet mica]

certainly can

I would really recommend you hire a R6 for a week. Follow a YouTube tutorial on setting it up for birding photography and go out and test it.

It may take some time to get used to the EVF, depending upon how sensitive you are to such things. My last experience with an EVF was way back in 2012 on a Sony RX100 II and I HATED the EVF with a passion, it was SHIT. I tried the EVF on the R6II and it was really nice. My R3's EVF is gorgeous. Took to that like a duck to water.

[barren yoke]

What is EVF?

Also I'll ask about renting it. There's one nearby I can go to. Idk how expensive it is

[barren yoke]

Ohhhh

Yeah I was worried about that. I feel like I'll like being able to know how to settings will work

But at the same time I kind of like being able to use the camera to see things, not having to do settings first

[fleet mica]

EVF = electronic viewfinder

[barren yoke]

Yeah ik

[fleet mica]

modern EVFs, at least the Canon ones are really good. I would never go back to an OVF (Optical viewfinder)

[barren yoke]

Mmmm

I'll ask my dad if we can go to the camera shop today. Idk if he's willing to let me even look at the camera tho lmao

[gilded yarrow]

Even the sony ones are better than optical viewfinder imo

[fleet mica]

job + save up = camera. What you do with your own money is your business, not your dads

[barren yoke]

Hm

[fleet mica]

yes. But my prior reference was to a 11 year old EVF that had more lag than a 12800 baudem modem LOL

[gilded yarrow]

[dusty fog]

damn thats a lot of lag

[barren yoke]

Lol

[fleet mica]

anyways, I need to go. Shower and then 1.5 hour drive to work. Long day, 8 hours, so won't be home for near 12 hours.

[barren yoke]

I dont want to work with food or people and that's kinda hard

I hate kids

[fleet mica]

kids are nice

[barren yoke]

Good luck!

[fleet mica]

they make especially nice pies

😛

[barren yoke]

Lol

Agreed

I don't even get paid that much and it's very inconsistent

[fleet mica]

ciao

[barren yoke]

But

[fleet mica]

PS my new website - www.davepastern.com. Been working on it for the past week and a bit. 🙂 now going, goodnight

[barren yoke]

Night

[fleet mica]

Dream run on the roads - 20 minutes early to my destination

[fleet mica]

Lovely!

[sharp valley]

Thank you

[bright oxide]

do a 1:1 crop or edit out the branch on the left

[sharp valley]

Ok thanks

[spring vault]

also save the pic out as srgb

[sharp valley]

What’s that

[spring vault]

so the colors are correct in the discord preview

[sharp valley]

Ok

How should I store all my photos btw?

[spring vault]

on your pc and one or two external backup drives depending how much you care

[sharp valley]

Ok

I will put them all on a hard drive or something

[barren yoke]

@fleet mica

:D I went to the camera shop

The EVF is awesome

[spring vault]

I refuse to go to camera shops to avoid gas

[barren yoke]

And I looked at other options and I still think r6 is the best compared to like r10 and r7

[barren yoke]

Gas?

[spring vault]

wanting to upgrade 🤢

[barren yoke]

Oh

Yeah at least my dad knows what it is now

[bright oxide]

gear acquisition syndrome, basically wanting more gear thinking it’ll make you a better photographer, but it’s never ending, hence GAS, always wanting more lmao

[fleet mica]

Remember the R10/7 are both APS-C crop cameras.

[fleet mica]

A good evf is amazing. You can see the exposure in real time, and a histogram too which is more convenient than older OVFs

[fleet mica]

Not always. Newer MLCs offer massive advantages over older entry level DSLRs from 10 years ago. That’s not GAS, but smart consumerism that enables a photographer

[bright oxide]

that’s GAS, if you don’t need it but you want it, it’s GAS 😭

especially as a hobbyist, if you’re earning money from it, it’s a different story

[barren yoke]

Yup

She told me that

Just was giving me options

I do need a newer camera

But my dad would say other wise. "It's just a hobby"

Anyway I made a spreadsheet and did some math

If we sold all our old stuff, it would be between 300-400$ maybe

And then I have some money

My dad would probably also pay for part of it

So if I get a job probably like 60-90 hours I need to work

Now I need to actually find a job lmao

[fleet mica]

You’ll be fine. Play to your strengths

If you need help with a CV/resume I am happy to help

[bright oxide]

remember she’s 14, jobs are very limited at this age 😭😭

[barren yoke]

yeah I know

ugghhhh maybe I can work at my school coffee shop

[fleet mica]

Really? In Australia they are common

[bright oxide]

mhm, in most states its 16 in america

[fleet mica]

Ahh America

[bright oxide]

well not even most

most is 18

but some are 16

[fleet mica]

Ridiculous really

America is a backwards country

[spring vault]

I think it's usually 16 in the usa

[bright oxide]

we know :(

[spring vault]

14-16 you can work but limited hours

varies by state ofc

[bright oxide]

yeah

[spring vault]

the children yearn for the mines

[fleet mica]

It’s really pocket money for the kid

Takes financial stress off the parents

And let’s kids get some money to save for a car for some freedom

Rather than stressing already financially stressed parents

America is really backwards in so many areas

Anyway…

[cursive linden]

Finally got some birds!

[drifting silo]

Nice, i would suggest cropping in more on the birds

[cursive linden]

Thanks for the feedback!

[cloud wharf]

https://www.instagram.com/p/C1uxUJoArdH/?igsh=MTlxMndpdTg0MW0wNA

Instagram

[cursive linden]

Great photos Bungins ! I’m going to follow your instagram page Kremit.

[spring vault]

going thru my editing backlog I think these two are funny

[cursive linden]

Awesome! I like the picture above.

[barren yoke]

lol

i might work at my school

they have a coffee shop

but hours are very limited

like not even an hour a day

[spring vault]

what's the pay per hour

and do you get free coffee

[barren yoke]

10$ and yes I do

Idk if it's taxed

[spring vault]

worth it

[barren yoke]

My friend won't tell me

[spring vault]

I don't see why it wouldn't be

[barren yoke]

Yeah I'm gonna check the schedule and see if they have openings that work for me

But they might shut down if they can't get a new fridge

[barren yoke]

anyway I probably will forget about the camera im pretty busy the next few days

I have an online school day on friday. I need to practice a bunch because I have honor band on saturday and then someones party.

just pretending I have a life for a few days lol

[barren yoke]

my teacher is kinda mean and its making me want to quit.

also honor band has really high notes and its in cut time. 2 of the things I hate the most

[barren yoke]

oooo

[waxen shard]

what instrument do you play?

[ocean frigate]

You can certainly get a job in america at 14

Especially if your parents are under a certain income

Actually u can get a job at 13 lmao

[nova steeple]

13? really?

i thought it was 14 and above

[ocean frigate]

And as tort said 14-16 is limited hours but like they should be in school bruh

[nova steeple]

i have friends that work over the max hours for minors

and ig no one reported it

[ocean frigate]

In some cases 13 you can get a job

[ocean frigate]

Of course its not reported

Not a big deal really

[nova steeple]

Illegal Child labor

[fleet mica]

How do aussie kids juggle school and then casual p/t hours after school then….

[fleet mica]

Illegal adult labour

[ocean frigate]

by limited hours i mean 14-16 year olds should not be allowed to work 40 hours a week

in most areas its 20

[fleet mica]

Wholly agreed

[ocean frigate]

which is fine

of course they work after school

i think its very similar to australia is what im saying

personally i started working at 16

[fleet mica]

A lot will be working 4-5 hours after school every day of the working week plus at least 1 day of the weekend

That’s 54 hours per fortnight

I mean adult workers are really slaves (let’s be realistic here). What’s the difference if we let kids work at 14 than holding them back until they are 18 so they can be slaves…

[ocean frigate]

just need to be more developed in school is my only gripe

year 2 of highschool they are men and women at that point

before that its iffy

[fleet mica]

What’s the minimum age to join the army?

Why do Americans have to wait until they are 21 to be able to legally drink alcohol when they can join the army at a much younger age and go fight a war and die…

A rather lack of consistency no?

[spring vault]

That's a common argument but id rather see the military age raised than the drinking age lowered. There's genuine health reasons to not drink before your brain is fully developed.

never gonna happen tho

[honest crystal]

any feedback would be appreciated

[drifting silo]

When photographing through glass in a zoo, use your lens hood and shove your lens right on the glass, to avoid reflections coming in.

or a cpl may help too

i know the struggle, i used to photograph in zoos all the time when i didnt have a super tele

[drifting silo]

*im referring to the 4th pic

[honest crystal]

thx ill try

[drifting silo]

round

[solar bay]

yes they are very round

[hidden wyvern]

they come from egg, they look like egg, then scream

[hidden wyvern]

i like the colours (or lack of) in this photo

matches the bird well

ill go through all of fall full of colour then winter comes and takes it away

always keeps it interesting

[fleet mica]

I call BS on that. No problems in every other country other than the US...so....

[barren yoke]

Euphonium

[spring vault]

alcohol isn't healthy!

[barren yoke]

Aka baritone

[waxen shard]

wait you can read bass clef

[barren yoke]

Yes I can

[waxen shard]

I'm learning

[barren yoke]

I also understand some amount of treble. I play a little piano

[waxen shard]

also its tricky

[barren yoke]

Eh

It's okay

I got a new phone guys

[waxen shard]

After treble for like forever its weird to think about it

[waxen shard]

noice

[barren yoke]

Yeah

Vice versa

Yep it is nice. All the little feature on my phone were bugging

Also uhhh the charging port sorta didn't work so I had to exclusively wireless charging

Yippee

It was a good deal

Now I get a customize a new phone

[barren yoke]

What are you learning

[waxen shard]

Well piano now in more of an official capacity

[barren yoke]

Ah

I hated the two hand thing so I kinda gave up

It messed with my brain

I have a legit phone now :D not just some old phone that was willingly hacked to make the Sim card work lmao

[barren yoke]

:O

Sickkk

Yup

Aww

[fleet mica]

In small and reasonable amounts it is fine. For example, Red wine has been shown to have benefits in fighting cholesterol and ultimately resulting in lower rates of coronary disease

[barren yoke]

Everything is good in moderation

But personally I have very bad experiences with alcohol. I can spare you the trauma dumping

[fleet mica]

Gorgeous!!!

[fleet mica]

Everyone is different. I’m a tea-totaller LOL

[barren yoke]

I mean I am under age. But I don't plan to be drinking it in the future

Communion was enough wine for me

I've seen what alcohol does to health and it scares me so uhh yeah I'm good.

[fleet mica]

Can do (if in excess). Do you drink Coca Cola and other soft drinks?

Cos they are far more insidious

[barren yoke]

Yeah I know shush

I don't really care about my own health

I try my best but like I can't cook

I would eat better but I don't see my dad making many homemade things

But soft drinks don't alter your state of mind

:p anyway what color phone case should I get

[fleet mica]

Cooking can be learnt

[fleet mica]

Purple!

[barren yoke]

Hmm I think green

[fleet mica]

They don’t, but the very high sugar content is responsible for the current high levels of obesity and diabetes

[barren yoke]

I'm so glad I don't have to go to school tomorrow

[barren yoke]

And I have exactly neither of those things

I don't drink it every day

Not even every week

[fleet mica]

Plus thousands of chemicals, none of which have been documented to be safe for human consumption

[barren yoke]

Well neither are many medicines and things

That doesn't mean they stop giving them out

[fleet mica]

I knew a woman who worked as a chemical engineer for Coca Cola. She refused to let her 2 daughters touch the stuff

She was adamant that the stuff was not safe for human consumption

[fleet mica]

Aqua

[barren yoke]

Sage

[fleet mica]

I am sage

[barren yoke]

My banner on my profile is my favorite color

[fleet mica]

😜

[barren yoke]

Wha?

[fleet mica]

You missed my comment

[barren yoke]

No I saw it

I don't know what that means

[fleet mica]

Sage = wise

[barren yoke]

Ah

I see

[fleet mica]

Also a colour and herb I believe

English is a very funny (bad) language

[drifting silo]

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Would be great if yall can drop a like, or even a follow
Ig algorithm has been a bitch to me lately

[barren yoke]

Why can't my body let me sleep innnnnn

I literally woke up earlier than I did yesterday. For school

[barren yoke]

Oh good I slept more

[broken mantle]

Trying my best to sleep

But cant 😂

Too excited for tomorrows birding trip to the seaaa

[barren yoke]

Yeah somehow I fell asleep earlier than I do normally

[broken mantle]

Gonna participate in the asian waterbird census 2024

[barren yoke]

Yippeee

Sweet

[broken mantle]

https://tenor.com/view/excited-yes-kermit-the-frog-gif-17837413828653214369

[barren yoke]

I have schoolwork today to do

[broken mantle]

Gotta wake up at 4

And im here struggling to sleep

[barren yoke]

Turn off your device, go read or something and then sleep

[broken mantle]

Lol yeah, should probly do that.

Hoping for another white bellied sea eagle pic tomorrow.

[solar bay]

i want to go birding so bad but i can't because it's -52 with the wind

[barren yoke]

Damn

It's -4 here and I have school work to do

[solar bay]

same i'm at school rn

[barren yoke]

Darn they didn't cancel school??

[solar bay]

nope

[barren yoke]

I probably would've stayed home anyway

I think I have pink eye lmao

But I have very important things this weekend that I've been waiting for forever

Eeee I hope I can like make it go away by the end of the day

Google says to go to the eye doctor.

Hmm no

[solar bay]

do what you think i hope you feel good soon

[barren yoke]

Yeah same

I have an event in less than 24 hours

[solar bay]

yikes

[barren yoke]

I know 😭

[solar bay]

i hope it's not that important

[barren yoke]

IT ISS

I've been waiting since November/October

It's a huge deal

Apparently you have to go to the doctor to get antibiotics

[solar bay]

that's not good

[barren yoke]

I know

I never miss things

😭

Pray for me

This is my new phones quality with a pet shop parrot

700$ little man

[solar bay]

700$ what

[barren yoke]

Parrot

[barren yoke]

Neat

[solar bay]

sorry for ping i thought you didn't see it

[barren yoke]

Dw

Idm pings

[solar bay]

same here

[barren yoke]

I better give get some ibuprofen atleast

Bro stupid phoneee

I'm typing with one hand

[solar bay]

i hate typing on a phone it sucks

[barren yoke]

aww and I was gonna go to the gym today

frick

[hard timber]

With a nikion d5100

[barren yoke]

Neat

[broken mantle]

https://tenor.com/view/excercise-cat-run-cute-love-gif-21813681

Still sad about the background 😂

[fleet mica]

Love the dramatic lighting

[barren yoke]

Could always mask and put a different background in

[fleet mica]

Yeah true but it usually looks fake imho

[barren yoke]

Not if you shade it right

[fleet mica]

Beyond my skills!

[barren yoke]

Same

Lol

[fleet mica]

At least I am getting slowly better at PP skills

Having a really shit day at work

[barren yoke]

I'm sorry I hope your day gets better

[fleet mica]

Yeah it will

[barren yoke]

:))

[fleet mica]

I work as a disability support worker looking after people with disabilities

[barren yoke]

Ahh yeah I would struggle with that personally

[fleet mica]

Twin brothers this morning. The support for the other twin didn’t fucking turn up

[broken mantle]

Not many options for background lol

[barren yoke]

Being with my mom for all those years showed me that. I'd die if I had to be a nurse.

Darn

[fleet mica]

So my boss tells me to take them both in my car to our respite house

[barren yoke]

I hate when people don't do their part

[fleet mica]

I only get paid to support my twin so the bastards were getting free support and not paying me

[barren yoke]

Damn

I just took a shower and I'm finishing my hair for honor band tomorrow.

[fleet mica]

The 2nd twin wouldn’t get out of the car at the respite house

[barren yoke]

My eye seems a little better

[fleet mica]

So the 2nd twin starts thumping my car whilst inside

[barren yoke]

I hate children

[fleet mica]

He’s ripped off the aircon console for the rear seats

[barren yoke]

Ooo how dare they. How old?

[fleet mica]

Work can fucking pay for the repairs

21

He’s very strong

[barren yoke]

Adults???

Ooh that doesn't seem right. They don't know how to not destroy people's property?

[fleet mica]

Yeah

[fleet mica]

No they don’t

ASD grade 3 non-verbal

[barren yoke]

That's sad

[fleet mica]

ASD requires set routine

If you change it they can escalate

The trick is to keep their routine

If you change, learn to spot an escalation before it happens

That’s where experience comes into play

I knew he would escalate but circumstances beyond my control made things worse and I was forced to just go along for the ride

Just fuckups from my bosses

And the cunts don’t take responsibility

Excuse the bad language

Very pissed off with them

Incompetent fuckers paid a lot of money to fuck shit up

You’ll learn this when you get a job

The higher up the ladder, the less work you do, the more you fuck up and the more money you get paid to do so

Whilst the workers at the bottom do all of the work

[barren yoke]

Hmm

Wait what time is it for you

[fleet mica]

Anyway I have no bird images to share

13.45

[barren yoke]

Am or pm?

I have no bird images either other than..

[fleet mica]

Pm

[barren yoke]

It's 21:43pm for me

[fleet mica]

Have just finished lunch at Grill’d with my client. I look like Indiana Jones lol

But Indy with a cool beard

[barren yoke]

Fun

[fleet mica]

Perhaps like Gandalf

[barren yoke]

We bought chicken Alfredo for dinner

[fleet mica]

I shall be known as “Indyalf”

[barren yoke]

But they didn't cook it

Lol

Better go change your user lmao

[broken mantle]

Sadly no wbse

[fleet mica]

I’ve had the holy trinity once - Osprey, Brahminy Kite and wbse all on the same day

3-4 km from each other

2 Brahminy kites together (mating in sky), wbse 100m away!!!!

Osprey 3-4 km away

[barren yoke]

Sweet

Any photos from it?

[cursive linden]

How you deal with white seagulls in a bright day? I took some pics and they came out too bright.

[barren yoke]

I would just turn down the exposure a bunch

[cursive linden]

What do you suggest? -3?

[barren yoke]

Hmm

Probably just mess around with it but yeah I'd say -2 to -3

[cursive linden]

I’ll try that next time! Thanks!

[barren yoke]

Mhm

[fleet mica]

I did, but they were shit - 1.5 stops underexposed, and AF was off (was using my 7DII which was new at the time). Didn't have the 500f4 either.

[barren yoke]

Aw

Well At least you got to see them

[fleet mica]

are you using a MLC with an EVF? If so, it should have a histogram in the EVF. Try and underexpose to the point where highlights are just under the clipping point on the histogram.

[fleet mica]

yes

[fleet mica]

here's some gulls for you (they're actually Silver Gulls - seagulls is actually not a correct term to be using)

the first image, the highlights on the back of the neck are blown. I did my best, but it was very strong early morning sunlight on the bird. 1 thing I hate about the R3's EVF is that it doesn't show blown highlights on the histogram very well - it's VERY hard to see when they are blown. And I don't see blinkies in the EVF either, only after I've taken the shot on the rear LCD screen. I'm suspecting that I haven't set up my EVF information correctly though

fuck lightroom's bugs really fucking pissing me off

same bug has been in the software for fucking 6 years and still not fixed

gonna have to look at this laptop, says I'm using 50% of RAM (laptop has 16GB) and there's no way I'm using 8GB ram...

at least, not looking at task manager

[spring vault]

simply underexpose by six stops

(this is a joke don't do this)

first ones pushing it a little

[cursive linden]

I’m using EVF

Yeah going out tomorrow to experiment with the exposure settings

[fleet mica]

watch the histogram. I don't know if the Sony EVF that you are using has blinkies etc...

something very weird is up with my laptop, I suspect a virus. 49% memory usage (16GB) with just Windows running...no other apps (other than Avast AV and CCleaner)

eject usb device hasn't been in the fast tray for 3 weeks now and no matter what I do I cannot get it to return

gonna be fun, fun fun backing shit up over the coming week or 2 and wiping everything and installing from fresh

I'd run GNU/Linux but Photoshop etc doesn't play nice with Linux, so that's a no go

[dusty fog]

could just be that half of your ram died

[drifting silo]

I unironically do that with my landscape shots

Too lazy to bracket + dont want to spend money on a GND

I trust in sony’s dynamic range

[frozen belfry]

i saw 2 wedge tailed eagles dog fighting a whistling kite that lives in my neighbours paddock, my goodness it was a sight. so bummed i didnt have my cam 😭

[broken mantle]

new desktop wallpaper

i don't like that its too centered lol. i usually compose the image while cropping, but can't really crop here for full resolution.

also saw this bird, their feets turns reddish on mating season, its not peak mating season yet, but this bird is almost all the way there lol(other birds are still yellow to light pink)

[cursive linden]

Did you figure it out? What’s using half your RAM?

[barren yoke]

:p I know I always glare at people when they say sea gulls

[bright oxide]

sony calls it zebras, it should have if its a newish camera

[bright oxide]

didnt know this before, pretty cool

[icy sparrow]

my a6000 from 2014 has zebras already
i think all sony mirrorless have that

[dusty fog]

My first birb with a real lens

[fleet mica]

have ran the microsoft ram checking software, found no problem. Microsoft's system information reports all RAM, but only half being used. But that is probably cos the system was live and running and using memory when I checked. I have downloaded memtest86 but need to create a boot disk etc

[fleet mica]

I need to get GND, but Nisi filterss aren't cheap 😦 (I have their v7 filter system but ND filters, not graduated).

[fleet mica]

Canon doesn't have zebras, only blinkies. Blinkies suck

[fleet mica]

No. But my system has been running like a dog for the past 2 months . I accidentally went to a dodgy site (was trying to go to maps.google.com.au and expected google to autocomplete but it didn't and I hit enter and voila, damage done. I had Avast running in the background and it alerted me to a virus on the site and said it blocked it, but maybe it fucked up)

After that, the BIOS did a few things on a few reboots to system updates that I had to make to Windows 11

so my concern is that the bios is fucked and even wiping the hard drives may not fix it

if it's installed a rootkit, that'll subvert any system software running live in memory, so I'd have to do a full virus scan from a live boot AV disk

I'm probably being paranoid though

[broken mantle]

Same here, just know rhat last trip. Since the javan pond herons are common here nonone is interested in them. Then the birb expert of the group explains to us the rare ones based on leg colour(to tell if the ayre local or migrant birds, or how well they are into the breeding season, etc).

Really learned a lot last trip, makes sense since they(the ones who invited me) are participating in the asian waterbird census 2024, and needs to make detailed observations(i think lol, or they might be just be very meticulous on birds AWC or not).

[cursive linden]

You should just do a fresh install of windows at this point

[fleet mica]

yes, that was my next step. I'll check RAM usage on a bare install, no 3rd party apps installing/running to see what the RAM does. if it's saying 50% memory used on a bare install, something is up, either faulty hardware or a rootkit

it's frustrating cos this new laptop is now slower than my old 1 (AMD 5600 vs 10 year old Intel i5)

new laptop also has a NVME root drive (PCIe v3 though) which will be faster than the SSD on the old laptop

in I/O performance that is

[broken mantle]

Last year i had frequent blue screens

Turns out hdd was dying lol

Lost all of my non backed up data

[cursive linden]

That’s definitely is not normal. The reinstall of windows shouldn’t take very long. I like to do a fresh install twice a year.

[bright oxide]

dont you have to redownload all your apps and stuff if you do that?

[cursive linden]

Yes but I don’t have a lot of apps/programs so it does not take a lot of time to redownload them

[cursive linden]

Could I get feedback please?

[dusty fog]

Get lower I think

[cursive linden]

Will do thank you

[ocean frigate]

like as low as possible btw

laying on the ground low

will get a better perspective of shorebirds that way

and also let you shoot an image with a shallow depth of field without having a 600 f4

[fleet mica]

yes, but it's only AV/chrome/pixinsight and lightroom/photoshop, so not much

I have Oblivion installed actually too, so that as well

[fleet mica]

no, it shouldn't, it's the bloody updates that kill you LOL...15 years in IT, and have played with more O/S than probably anyone on this server

[fleet mica]

some of them are a bit too tight in the frame, but nicely exposed and sharp, bonus reflections and poses. Looks like Whimbrels and Pied Stilts.

[fleet mica]

it's not always possible. I'm looking to make a home made groundpod over the coming 2 weeks as funds alllow so that I can get very low and use my Gimbal to get low shots.

[cursive linden]

How do you determine your lens sharpest aperture?

I see some people shoot in 5.6 others 8

[fleet mica]

download a test chart image (zeiss star chart may help). Print it to A3 and mount it on foamboard. Bluetak it to a wall. Step back and take images at various f stops and check the results.

[wheat hare]

I use Reikan FoCal but it was gifted to me so I didn't have to pay for it. I would have most likely purchased it anyway though tbf.

[plucky yacht]

check out these birds

[jovial rain]

First bird photo I took on a DSLR re edited

[cursive linden]

I like this one

[plucky yacht]

thanks!!

[jovial rain]

reflections

[gilded yarrow]

Man I really need to get that 200-600 so I can do wildlife again

[plucky yacht]

thats awesome man what

[plucky yacht]

goodness gracious

[broken mantle]

thanks

thats one fun trip for reflections

[broken mantle]

planning to do this too, diy groundpod

[fleet mica]

not uncommon, especially with some of these cameras that have high frame rates...

[broken mantle]

yeah was spamming since the wind was blowing, was hoping for an epic moment lol.

just like this bird, i thought it was gonna take off. it didnt.

[drifting silo]

Great shot! Where did you go for this trip? I need new spots to go birding

[drifting silo]

Also for the indecisive like me gotta get ALL of the possible compositions I can think of while the moment lasts

[broken mantle]

boating around muara angke.

[drifting silo]

[broken mantle]

the sky here motivates me to wake up earlier for birding

way better than plain blue/white sky.

[fleet mica]

pray and spray we call it here 😉

[wheat hare]

Snow tomorrow but I might go see if I can find more eagles

[fleet mica]

rescued a female faiywren this arvo, not sure if she'll make it or not. Was on the ground on the dirt track that I was on and covered in ~20 ants

picked her up, cleaned the ants off and had a brisk 700m walk back to the car, cuddling her and carrying my camera gear

have dropped her off at the RSPCA wildlife hospital (was a 30 minute drive)

[mint warren]

gl to the fairy wren

and good job to you

[fleet mica]

just doing what a decent person should do

[last terrace]

Heres an owl

[wheat hare]

snowing a bit too hard to go out I think. Damn

[swift walrus]

still in the process of getting a better lens so had to use an older nikon 70-300mm no VR :( but birb

[spring vault]

what a cutie

[swift walrus]

one flew into the back of my head

[fleet mica]

sadly the little Fairywren passed away (had to be euthanised). @mint warren

[mint warren]

F

[solar bay]

yeah a Woodpecker once landed on my head for a brief moment

[dusty fog]

So how do you guys actually find birds

I went out into the woods near me a bit before golden hour where i always hear tons of birds and saw a fleeting blue jay that promptly hid from me and nothing else

[mint warren]

Boomer birding pages

find one for your local area or state on FB where the boomers post their bird pics, you'll see what they're seeing and usually where

[fleet mica]

I find them to have feathers. And a beak. Wings too. 😛

[fleet mica]

In all seriousness, Facebook groups are great. ebird and merlin bird ID help too.

[wheat hare]

Rare bird alerts on twitter/facebook. There are regional discords as well

Some regional Audubons have mailing lists or bulletin boards

Once you get to know locals and they know you’re not a piece of shit out to harm anything they will share alerts and locations typically

[gilded yarrow]

Just found these pics from last summer, never edited the for some reason

(Open in browser for more detail)

[swift walrus]

pretty birds

[wise trench]

So sharp wow

I haven’t been able to find any small birds so far since Christmas. I’ve literally seen 1 and I took a out of focus picture of it

[gilded yarrow]

High Pass filter magic haha

Editing can make a crazy difference

[gilded yarrow]

Yeah theres way less of them in the Winter

[wise trench]

That makes me feel better definitely 😂

I sit by my open window and watch for anything

[gilded yarrow]

I really miss doing wildlife photography I absolutely need the 200-600 soon

[wise trench]

Dang. I got the sigma 150-600 c for Christmas

[gilded yarrow]

Sick!

My Mom paid part of my new cam for Christmas

Wouldnt have been able to get it otherwise

Now I just need a wildlife lens

[wise trench]

What happened to your old one?

[gilded yarrow]

I switched systems

[wise trench]

My dad is the one who helps me with photography stuff sometimes 🙃

[gilded yarrow]

Had a Canon 250d before

[wise trench]

Ah

I use a t7 😭 🤮

Combined with the sigma 150 isn’t the best for af

🫠

[gilded yarrow]

Still have that cam to be fair I could still go out but it wasnt that fun and now after using the a7iii it'll be even less fun lmao

[gilded yarrow]

Still a great lens tho

[wise trench]

Definitely it’s pulsing is just bad from what I heard and felt. Besides that it’s the best budget wildlife lens

[wise trench]

Yeah…my dream

[gilded yarrow]

Its amazing

A7iv would be even more amazing but I dont need it at all

[wise trench]

Going from the t7 with its dogshit autofocus to a better camera will be amazing istg

[wise trench]

Yeah…what’s the difference

[gilded yarrow]

Better af, better Video capabilities

But the a7iii's af is already crazy good

Especially when paired with a good lens

[wise trench]

Video??? Who cares

[wise trench]

Definitely

[gilded yarrow]

The only advantage I would actually profit from would probably be bird eye af

But imo the a7iv isnt worth 1k more

[wise trench]

crazy how expensive those get

[gilded yarrow]

I got my a7iii for 1.2k Brand new

Including a 50mm that I sold for 120€

So basically 1k

[wise trench]

How tf

[gilded yarrow]

Well actually 1.5k but theres that 300€ Sony cashback

so I effectively paid 1.2k

[wise trench]

THAT makes more sense lol

[gilded yarrow]

Oh and I also got a backpack for free because my order was over 500€

So a7iii + 50mm + backpack for effectively 1.2k

[wise trench]

wtf 😭😭

[gilded yarrow]

Crazy deal, couldnt pass on it

[wise trench]

Definitely not 😭

[gilded yarrow]

Shop discount + Sony cashback + gift because my order was over 500€ lmao

And then I got the tamron 28-75 for 600 instead of 800€

Already used all my luck for this year

[wise trench]

I think you’re using all of mine

😭😭

[drifting silo]

Oh do those really make a difference? I havent been able to get really good feather detail with the 200600. Ive gotten really crisp skin textures on primates but not feather detail on birds…

Maybe im just not close enough

Or distortion from the atmosphere

[gilded yarrow]

Being close enough is definitely very important

[gilded yarrow]

Those pics were cropped just a tiny bit and thats 450mm ffeq

Left one isnt cropped at all actually

[drifting silo]

Could def use that eye af on the high end models tho 😍

[drifting silo]

Ah i see

[gilded yarrow]

Yeah 100% its very good

[drifting silo]

I also use an a7iii and it gets kinda difficult at times to set focus on the eyes

Especially when the dof is so shallow

So far ive been using the lock on expandable spot

[gilded yarrow]

Yeah it can definitely be challenging but its possible

[drifting silo]

Sometimes changing to small spot for better accuracy

[gilded yarrow]

One of the main things that made me upgrade is low light performance

[drifting silo]

Dude i went to full frame from micro four thirds. Insane improvement

[gilded yarrow]

I can easily go up to iso 25600 in some situations without really worrying about noise while iso 800 was the highest I could go with my 250d

[drifting silo]

Yeah

I think i used to cap at iso6400 with lumix g9

Now my cap is set at 12800

Could go higher but usually thats enough for most cases

[gilded yarrow]

Yeah true

[hidden wyvern]

not sure if i shared this since idk if i was the happiest with this shot that day but 4 macaws in flight

and heres another 3 of them which were a bit closer

[gilded yarrow]

Yooo thats so cool

Where'd you take that?

[hidden wyvern]

this was at a wildlife park in florida

lots of other birds too (all freeflying, well, except for the emu)

[cursive linden]

What did you set your exposure composition setting to?

[hidden wyvern]

not really a thing i change, usually 0 or 1

[cursive linden]

Came out great!

[hidden wyvern]

Thanks

[broken mantle]

Birb landed in front of me

[cursive linden]

Lucky!

[cursive linden]

Does anyone use a gimbal head when doing bird photography?

[spring vault]

some do but most stick to handheld

[broken mantle]

I do, but only on some areas

If i will be waiting in a hide, or waiting for a bird near its nest, or early morning/late noon shots where its darker and i need more stability. Or if i want to record a video.

But 70-80% i go handheld.

[wheat hare]

I’m on a monopod with a monogimbal probably 60% of the time.

[spring vault]

-15c but it's sunny so I went outside to find birds and I only got pics of one but that's fine

gotta wait for the cam to defrost

[cursive linden]

It’s raining right now 😦

[spring vault]

cropped a lot

[cursive linden]

In my car right now waiting for the rain to calm

[bright oxide]

GUYS DID YOU SEE WE BASICALLT GOT OUR OWN NEW CHANNEL

#🦀・creatures

[spring vault]

theyre kicking us outta nature

[wheat hare]

nature sucks anyway

[bright oxide]

woah woah woah

without nature there would be no birbs

we love nature here

[merry cove]

nono without birds there'd be no nature

[bright oxide]

goes both ways

[hidden wyvern]

what if birb is in tree

[cursive linden]

What metering mode setting do you use for bird photography?

[drifting silo]

I just use the default multi metering

Works fine for pretty much everything for me

The important thing for me personally is to keep an eye on the zebra stripes. A little is ok, too much means its overexposed

Theres a setting for the zebra stripes on sony cameras to make it measure overexposure for RAW files instead of jpeg, cuz the default settings is for jpeg and that means it isnt considering the full dynamic range of a raw file

[cursive linden]

I’m going to look into that.

[drifting silo]

https://youtu.be/HPhC0xr8-IA?si=FYlQgVQuZX6xjb1j

@cursive linden

[cursive linden]

Ah perfect thank you so much

[drifting silo]

Mark galer has great vids on sony cameras

Lots of them

[plucky yacht]

@dark minnow what lens did you use for that picture in #🦀・creatures ??

[dark minnow]

which pic?

[dark minnow]

the chickadee one?

[plucky yacht]

yes

[dark minnow]

efs 55-250 stm

[plucky yacht]

wow

how close were u lol

[dark minnow]

mfd

[plucky yacht]

thats kinda wild, i use that lens

[dark minnow]

most of my pics from that are completely out of focus to to me being to close

[plucky yacht]

real

very nice picture

[dark minnow]

thanks

[wheat hare]

I love sitting in the freezing rain for two hours waiting for an owl to come back. Should have brought my pop up blind.

[wheat hare]

Found some hawks but they don't sit still very long and the light is terrible today 😦

[wheat hare]

Nothing worth keeping but to hell with these low level flying fucks.

[fleet mica]

check out Duade Paton's videos on this pulsing issues. It doesn't 100% get rid of it, but it does minimise it as much as possible.

[fleet mica]

a73? It doesn't have animal eye detect, just people...

[gilded yarrow]

I know that lol

Meant overall af not just eyes

and it does have dog/cat eye af

[fleet mica]

yes, but quality optics is even more important.

[gilded yarrow]

True

[fleet mica]

not much good for birds I'm afraid. I have a mate who has the a73...

[gilded yarrow]

Of course not thats why I said Dog/cat eye af

Because those are pretty much the only animals it focuses on

[fleet mica]

yeah but it's no help for wildlife imaging 😦

fuck it is hot

32.6c at 10am already. Meant to hit 39c today. That's 90f and 102f respectively. Humidity is at 65% so that 32.6c feels like 37.1c.

I've lived here since 2007 and December was easily the hottest that I can remember and January has been even hotter. Traditionally February is the hottest of the 3 months, so I'm dreading the coming month. It starts to taper off a bit in March, but it won't cool down to the start of May here.

Winter will be June/July and a part of August and then Summer starts up again. I hate this heat.

That 39c, with humidity adjusted will probably feel like 46c at a guess. We've had a near week of minimum nightly temperature 23c with high humidity, so even hotter feels like temps. My room was 30.1c last night at 70% RH at 1am. (I don't have aircon). By 8.30am it was already 30.1c...will probaby hit 33c today, which is the hottest I have ever seen my room in 17 years.

[cursive linden]

Could I get feedback on this please?

[last terrace]

I feel like you added way too much contrast

[cursive linden]

Too much?

[last terrace]

Yah

Way too much

Its so dark

And the whites are too white

What does the original look like?

[cursive linden]

Let me see if I can find the original one

It was super cloudy today too

[last terrace]

Look here

Its totally blown out

All the detail is just gone

[cursive linden]

I think I also didn’t have the proper exposure settings.

[last terrace]

Always make sure that you have your highlights exposed properly

[last terrace]

Then in processing you can bring back some of the shadows

[last terrace]

Send the other one

[cursive linden]

Could you give me an example on how you would edit it?

[last terrace]

I'll edit in rn

You've sent a jpg

Anyways whatever I'll give it a go

[cursive linden]

I’ll resend it

[bright oxide]

send raw file if you have

if you dont shoot raw, shoot raw, gives you the most flexibility when editing

[cursive linden]

I have the raw files

[last terrace]

Here

This is the edit from the jpg

[bright oxide]

vingette?

[last terrace]

slight one

[bright oxide]

hmm

[last terrace]

I cant bring back the detail on the bird because its already washed out

[bright oxide]

interesting choice, not the greatest fan of vingetting, thats just me

[bright oxide]

but yeah this is true

[last terrace]

Lol

[bright oxide]

he does have the raw file if you wanna try saving it

[last terrace]

Vignetting is good when your trying to highlight a subject in the middle

[last terrace]

Ill give it a go

[bright oxide]

but yeah i've learned that if you're shooting white birds, underexpose

[bright oxide]

@cursive linden

[last terrace]

Always underexpose

[bright oxide]

for dark birds too?

[last terrace]

No dark birds

[bright oxide]

yeah

[last terrace]

You need to get exposure right

But if the background is bright then underexpose

[cursive linden]

I agree it’s just that it was super cloudy and assumed that I didn’t need to adjust the exposure comp

[last terrace]

Because if you overexpose highlights then its gone forever

[bright oxide]

i'll give it a shot in my photos, but generally i stay away from vingette

[bright oxide]

only on digital :)

film is the opposite, which is interesting

[last terrace]

You can also add a linear vignette for a diff typeof vignette

As in if you have a subject in the middle you could darken the edges of the pic

But not vignette

So th effect is cooler

But then you have to mask and all that

I cba rn to do that

[last terrace]

Can you send the raw pls

[cursive linden]

I’m away from my computer and using the my phone. Let me see if I can do it.

[cursive linden]

Like this?

[last terrace]

Also @cursive linden if you're not sure when your over exposing. Use the histogram on the camera. If the lines touch the right hand side of the graph, then ur overexposing

[last terrace]

Yh but it doesnt look good there

[bright oxide]

well that just means you've blown out the highlights

its true white

[last terrace]

Ur subject is too squished

[bright oxide]

if its touching the right

[last terrace]

Ik

If its not

[bright oxide]

yeah i get what you mean tho

[last terrace]

Then we can bring back detail

[cursive linden]

Found it

[last terrace]

Wrong roundness, not enough feathering

Not the correct color

[last terrace]

Just not a nice effect with the vignetting here

[bright oxide]

these are not raws

raw file wouldnt come with a preview in discord

anythign that shows as an actual image in discord is a jpg

[cursive linden]

Darn I don’t know how I would send them via my phone

[bright oxide]

probably cant

[last terrace]

Thats 45 KB

[bright oxide]

most phones dont allow raw files to be saved in camera roll

[last terrace]

Anyways whatever its fine

Chill with it

But in this case, I upped the shadows and black a bit, and decresed highlights

Then color graded the green and orange

Anyways I gtg

Got an exam in around 3 hrs

Adios

[cursive linden]

Thanks for your help!

[cursive linden]

Do you generally want to under expose for most birds or just white birds?

[last terrace]

Its not about birds

Its about underexposing highlights

So that they're not just white

So that you can recover detail

In any kind of photography

[fleet mica]

get lower. Highlights are OK, but the rest of the image is underexposed by around half a stop I'd say. too much contrast and saturation. Noisy as well (did you run any NR?)

[mighty sand]

Hey Dave

[fleet mica]

no, only if highlights will be clipped. underexposed an image that has darker content in it, will clip the shadows which is equally as bad.

[fleet mica]

upload the RAW files to google drive...then share the file to everyone in google drive (anyone who has the link) and post the link here

[fleet mica]

hey mate

[mighty sand]

How’ve you been

[fleet mica]

just white birds where highlights will be clipped. if the highlights aren't being clipped, increase the exposure.

[fleet mica]

HOT...too damn hot

nearly 39c here today

[mighty sand]

Ohh jeez it’s different over here in NY lol

Ohh jeez that’s warm

It’s like 12°F over with a wind chill of -5°F

[fleet mica]

@cursive linden if you can send the RAW files, I'll have a crack at them and see what I can do.

[fleet mica]

yeah I can imagine. I much prefer the cold to the heat

you can add layers, but you can't remove them (unless you are Shrek, or an onion)

[mighty sand]

Yeah haha

[fleet mica]

just have a thunderstorm hitting here right now

hopefully it cools things down a bit

[mighty sand]

I always wanted to get a Timelapse of a storm without rain

[fleet mica]

would like to get some more lightning shots

[mighty sand]

Mhm

[fleet mica]

I guess I should work on some images haen't touched anything for like nearly 2 weeks lol

not htat I have anyting really good to process

had some wedgie in flight shots but they were a long way away and sadly, the images aren't great 😦

sky was shit too

[mighty sand]

I haven’t really been able to do some shoots lately since I’ve been at home and busy at work

[fleet mica]

as I said, crap

very heavy crop, lacks contrast but I CBF trying to fix it

it has zero potential to be a decent shot

still, my only wedgie in flight shot, so...

better than nothing

[frozen belfry]

better than mine

[wheat hare]

That’s how I felt about all the hawk shots. I culled them all anyway though.

[fleet mica]

to be fair to me, the sky was shit and it was a very long way away. If only they'd (there was a pair) had come closer

[fleet mica]

yeah. I'm at the point where I set really high standards for my images now and if an image doesn't meet those, it's crap

I'm probably way too harsh on myself

Oriental Dollarbird. Closest I've had 1 to me yet - a real pity about the sky (same day as the wedgie, same location). I could crop this, but i don't think it's worth doing so

got an olive backed oriole same day...same shitty blown background

a pity, cos it's a nice pose and eye contact :/

just 3 weeks of shit images and it's pissing me off

have had 2 outings, but nothing great from those and haven't even bothered to import those images from the card

pised at Canon too...their card naming system is crap

so my R3 has 2 card slots...1 for cfexpress and 1 for sd...cfexpress is typically named card 1 and sd card 2...

but, when I take the cfexpress card out to import images, it names sd card 1...and when I put the cfexpress card back in after importing, sd stays card 1 and cfexpress is now card 2, instead of going back to their original fucking slot numbers

ended up deleting some osprey video footage that was reasonably good cos of this

just inconsistent UI logic sometimes from them (UI is still better than Sony and Nikon combined imho)

[fleet mica]

Brown Falcon...kinda meh. Again, crappy background sky 😦

[drifting silo]

Sky replacement

[fleet mica]

CBF

[lusty kindle]

ew

[cursive linden]

No it was cloudy that day

[fleet mica]

so less light, hence higher ISO, hence more noise in the image. if you can provide a RAW file, I'm happy to have a go at processing it for you. I'm confident that I can produce a better result.

[cursive linden]

It’s ok I do appreciate your help Dave

Do you try to look at the histogram as much as you can during shooting?

[mint warren]

6 weeks till singapore

lots of bird there

[drifting silo]

Got some pretty good shots that im honestly proud of today

Finally got some crisp feather detail

Was able to get close enough and the light was great

[dusty fog]

My porch is a feeding frenzy but they’re too close for me to take any pictures

I guess too close isn’t the real problem, the problem is there’s glass between us haha

[drifting silo]

I know youre talking to Dave, but personally, I don’t bother looking at the histogram. For landscape photography sure but not for birding. Things just happen so quickly that all I care about is capturing the moment. I have my ISO on auto and use Exposure Compensation to make swift adjustments with the help of Zebras to quickly identify blown highlights.

Hope that helps

Besides, Sony’s dynamic range rocks so I can always fix it up in editing

And in relation to IQ / sharpness / dynamic range you also want to have your ISO at a reasonable level, not too high. For me this means worrying more about the shutter speed. You need to identify the shutter speed you need based on the situation you’re faced with. For instance, for larger birds you go with slower SS, and for smaller birds faster SS. It’s an inverse relationship because smaller birds generally move faster.

[wispy mesa]

May I ask what you mean by "with the help of Zebras"?

[drifting silo]

It’s a tool in sony (and possibly other brands) cameras used to show parts of the image that are overexposed / have blown highlights. They’re called Zebras because they show up as zebra stripes in your screen/viewfinder

Like that

[wispy mesa]

Ah thanks! I will need to Google but don't think mine has that.

[drifting silo]

Just finished editing a pic from today’s birding session

I am trying so hard to replicate Jan Wegener’s colors

Any feedback would be greatly appreciated

[icy sparrow]

crazy good well done

[lusty kindle]

saturation to max ?

although i really enjoy his videos, i find his editing the most cringe

[drifting silo]

Aww that’s a shame. I love the way he does his colors, particularly the backgrounds. It adds a lot to the image and since then Ive been attempting to add a certain color to the background that would support the main subject.

I watched an editing vid of his but stopped watching cuz he apparently doesn’t use lightroom

[lusty kindle]

what he does is easier in ps

still hate how unnatural it looks

looks more like drawings or paintings

i also dont really like the fact all his shots are basically perches and food to attract birds

[drifting silo]

Ahh i see. Then i’ll get the adobe photography bundle some time this year. Still waiting for my mobile subscription to end

[lusty kindle]

i've got the "free version" personally

[drifting silo]

Thats exactly the stuff i love though
I love pictures that just look very perfect and clean.

[drifting silo]

This i agree

[lusty kindle]

eh, matter of taste ig

[frosty yacht]

first time doing bird photography in a couple of months

[dusty fog]

not good but fun

this guy was watching me

[mint warren]

Nothing too special today

[ocean frigate]

u gonna go to the hanging gardens?

[mint warren]

Hanging gardens?

Oh you mean in Gardens by the bay

I think some of the other areas in Gardens by the bay are better known for birds

[bright oxide]

second picture is great lol

[mint warren]

tried for a bettle angle, couldnt find it

[mint warren]

https://youtu.be/CBqaW1Kv0A4?si=GDZC57vJkMU15HWl

He goes over each area of gardens by the bay and what you can find

[fleet mica]

it's a nice feeling

[fleet mica]

DR even with the Sony, has limits. if the histogram is shown in the EVF, there's no harm in looking at it. not all cameras have zebras either. Canon has blinkies, and they are very hard to spot on a bird in the EVF...as to ISO, I will disagree with you here. Perhaps that is the case with your Sony, but not all cameras are the same. I can shoot at very high ISO with my R3 and get great DR and noise performance and sharpness.

[fleet mica]

ISO 8000 thanks.

[drifting silo]

8000 is still ok to me lol. I go all the way up to 12800 and well… the images are usable for my (not very high) standards. But definitely not great

ISO 12800

[fleet mica]

8000 is cranking the ISO

[drifting silo]

Mind you I dont have AI noise reduction

[fleet mica]

that bower bird shot was still very clean even prior to NR AI being used

[drifting silo]

Well perhaps its a sensor thing

[fleet mica]

definitely

[drifting silo]

Higher end cameras certainly should have better iso performance

I use an a7iii so theres that

[fleet mica]

it's sensor design

a7iii is bsi but not stacked and is now 4 years old...

aka very old tech now

[lost lintel]

what about the a7rv for birb photography

[drifting silo]

Yeah im thinking that would be my next upgrade. How is it @fleet mica ?

The AI AF

[lost lintel]

I like mine, but don’t know much about its sensor tech. It would be a dream to have an A7R camera with global shutter 😎

[drifting silo]

How’s the Eye AF accuracy for birds? And the noise performance

I read somewhere that high res sensors tend to have more noise

[dusty fog]

Finally got some good ones, just some house sparrows

[lost lintel]

It’s okay but the noise can get a little annoying when it’s shaded out. I’m sure that would all go away if I used a 600 f/4 instead of a variable aperture zoom

[bright oxide]

third one is great

[dusty fog]

got a nice vid too

[drifting silo]

Higher shutter speed = more noise
I srsly need ai denoise so i dont have to worry so much about noise

[dusty fog]

it's not that big of a gme changer

a lot of detail and sharpness is still lost

comes out looking toasted

[spring vault]

sometimes I prefer noise over whatever the denoise is doing

nightmarish

[drifting silo]

One day, I’ll get a nice crisp shot of a small BIF

For now, im happy with birds on a stick

[cursive linden]

That's a great photo!

[drifting silo]

Is it too yellow? The image as a whole i mean

I have a tendency to edit with warmer tones but i sometimes am worried that its too yellow

And sometimes apple’s auto night mode just completely messes with my editing lol. I look back at some photos and get surprised seeing how overly yellow they are, quickly adjust the edit in lr only to realize i was on night mode

[fleet mica]

plenty of resolution. It's not a stacked sensor, so rolling shutter will be an issue on some shots. maximum 10fps so slow as a wet weekend LOL...

[lost lintel]

I like cropping it’s fun tbh

[fleet mica]

it's about the same as any Canon AF on any Canon MLC...people are harping on about it endlessly like it's superb. It's middle of the park.

[fleet mica]

why? Sony's A9III has poor DR and high ISO performance vs a modern stacked BSI sensor...the R3 kills the A9III for IQ...

[lost lintel]

Aw boo

[fleet mica]

smaller the pixel, the worse the DR and high ISOI performance typically...so, yeah....

[dusty fog]

i'm perfectly happy with 24mp on full frame then : )

i see no reason to push it higher

maybe a little more for cropping

[fleet mica]

sure, but it is better to get closer to the bird...

[fleet mica]

hey, I didn't make up the rules of physics...even Sony has to abide by them.

[fleet mica]

24mp is NOT enough. Unless you can get close to the bird (i.e. relatively tame, or using a hide/ghillie suit) any cropping is going to reduce the pixels on the bird and you'll lose detail. 45mp is a nice sweet spot and that's why most birders are using a R5

I got my first Peregrine Falcon yesterday, albeit a long way away

it did fly (towards me) but those things are fucking fast

my mark 1 500f4 is very slow to grab initial focus, so it was a big "fuck you" to me LOL

[drifting silo]

Yeah 61mp sounds like too much for me. The files are humongous and transferring them also takes considerably more time. Hoping that sony announces the a7v with around 40MP. The a7iv is already quite nice with 33MP, but im gonna wait for an a7v with hopefully more res and AI af

[drifting silo]

Yoo i was just watching a few Peregrine Falcon kill montages earlier on youtube. Really cool stuff

[fleet mica]

40mp is a nice sweet spot. Sony tends to hamper their cameras with poor FPS...sad really

[fleet mica]

I saw 1 with a goose in the desert last night. Was NOT impressed. That's just animal abuse