Last time I checked the lexicanum, i was looking for some solitaire lore and it told me that the soltiaires were immune to wark powers and souless
#40k-lore-chat
final spruce
final spruce
Meanwhile, on other sources they describe that their souls are just bound to be eaten by Slaneesh and nothing mentionning immunity to warp powers
crisp heath
wouldn't that make them soulless in a sense?
final spruce
They still have it
odd sparrow
40k isn't a consistent universe, possible diff GW sources contradict eachother
barren tapir
If they have no soul, the warp power have no influence on them
final spruce
From what I understand
odd sparrow
yea, blanks have a very tangible effect against any warp entity/power in their proximity
final spruce
Yet I have other people that are pretty good in lore tell me there is no info about Solitaires being blanks
odd sparrow
it's why blanks are amazing for witchhunting
barren tapir
Solitaires have their souls in a limbo, when they die the laughing god will battle slaneesh to get that soul
final spruce
Just that, when they die, their soul goes to Slaneesh but has a very slight chance to be reclaimed by Cegorah
odd sparrow
yea that was my understanding. They're souls are effectively on their way to Slaanesh but Cegorach will fight for it
final spruce
But nothing mentionning them being blanks since they stillt echnically have souls
And nothing translating on tabletopt hat would indicate so
Like with SoS
barren tapir
Lexicanum say that they are eldar that have lost their soul, but it doesn't say how
storm jungle
Yeah pretty much, being a solitaire is a one-way ticket and performance if you will
barren tapir
I know that warhammer 40k wiki has a page with different lore, but i also know that the wiki isn't really reliable to up to date info
storm jungle
also this ^
Not to mention copy pasted info which contradict each other a lot
You can tell some pages where people were too lazy to even edit for consistency
barren tapir
Or duplicate of the same info in the same page...
barren tapir
We also know that someone can become a blank, like the ferrymen of the grey knights, so it is not so impossible that even an eldar may lose his/her soul... After all, you must have some form of protection if you have to do the slaneesh part in their performances
final spruce
Makes me remember the Exorcists in a way
storm jungle
The priests, the chapter or the vehicle?
barren tapir
I still remember when the pariah gene was considered a necron biological weapon implanted in humans
final spruce
The chapter
storm jungle
Ah
Also offt, Blank those were the old days
i still wish they re-introduced Pariahs already
barren tapir
Or the necron pariah, which clearly show that it wasn't their weapon, but they saw its utility... But both have been retconnected
barren tapir
Well, necrons got the blackstone, they don't need pariahs anymore
storm jungle
Eh still, pariahs are cool
Still the unit im the most sad over when it comes to retcons
barren tapir
Eh still, pariahs are cool
Of course we are cool
barren tapir
Dawn of war was the game that make me discover warhammer
storm jungle
Same, its a shame the game is kind of a poor representation of actual lore
aka making everyone psychopaths
But its so great
barren tapir
Fun thing about the Ad. Mech. genetors, there is a faction that follow nietzsche if i'm right... The apexist...
Also the logistician, but they are considered heretics and aren't only techpriests
storm jungle
I swear i actually read that too
I think... it was something from mechanicus the game though? Or at least a hint from an item description
might be wrong
celest dome
Magos Genetor are the Biologist/Chemist of the Ad Mech, made the Gland Warrior
also aren't the Apexist mostly: Survival of the Fittest/What doesn't kill me make me stronger
barren tapir
Yeah, but it is hinted that they follow the philosophy of a pre imperial guy, which i think is nietzsche
They are looking for the perfect form, and believe that it will come through adversity
verbal nest
Nietzsche
That's just hilarious ngl
vagrant osprey
Well, their God IS dead ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
verbal nest
Would an Ork ever team up with an humie
verbal nest
Huh?
barren tapir
That is what happened on armageddon when the cicatrix maledictum formed according to some sources
primal tide
I love that it's actually a functional currency because teef growing back is balanced by the fact that they rot away
verbal nest
And they would seriously work for anyone if it paid enough?
verbal nest
Seems like a great way to get some muscle
final spruce
Freebootas have, so far worked with Eldars, Inquisition, Rogue traders and so far
Yeah, sometimes all they want is a hat
A nice hat
kind dove
Orks are weird amazing FTFY
final spruce
Said Boss liked to collect hats
primal tide
You will never reach the same level of galaxy brain as Grizgutz
green sedge
So if I offered a promethium powered partly on fire armor plated pirate hat with eight different species of skull around the top edge with mouths that are guns, and asked him to go terrorize the Hell out of a particular shipping lane, I can potentially kill my pesky rival the Bishop?
schemes in Martian.
storm jungle
The best part is
He ASKS if he can have the hat, then its a deal. The inquisibitch brought it on herself!
vagrant osprey
She lives because he just wanted the hat.
I hope she learned from that.
Inquisitors must not be faithless in their dealings :V
storm jungle
Oh yeah thats like the best part the fact that shes alive lol
verbal nest
So now that Gulliman is back, are the Ultramarines in a different position?
final spruce
Yeah, now some Ultramarines are governors now
primal tide
haha some of them literally hold different positions now
vagrant osprey
TBH, governance is not something Astartes are well suited for.
But then, most organizations in the Imperium are doing things they're poorly suited for.
I mean, Ordo Hereticus exists
crisp heath
I don't see what would make an Astartes bad at governance
They're usually as adept at the strategic part of warfare as they are at the actual combat
Which implies a good understanding of logistics
Which in turn says they could probably do administrative work fairly well
vast frigate
i mean theres conrad curze and his legion who were supposed to become ultimate judges
and possibly exectioners if need be
Guilliman was supposed to be the ultimate politician
like, astartes can definitely be good at goervning
final spruce
I thought Gulliman was supposed to be Master Logistics
And Horus/Lorgar being the politicians
vast frigate
Guilliman was i believe politics, but i can be confusing him for lorgar
yeah lorgar was meant to work with guilliman i think, looking at his speech and abilities
Something like a political spokesperson to sway the masses
A two party group that works everything out
final spruce
Because I remember Gulliman being all about Logistics
Also why he was good at tactics
cerulean wagon
being good at logistics does mot make you a good politician
this is why there are war time ministers, people who are only voted into power because of an ongoing conflict and their capability to rally people
see: churchill
final spruce
In Gulliman's context , he is FORCED into politics because he is the only loyalist primarch that is in contact with the Imperium
And I remember him being fed up about all that politic stuff because of the High Lords opposing him in almost every way
Because the just the presence of Gulliman and his knowledge of the Imperium of old was enough to "destitute" them and show how bad they are for the Imperium
barren tapir
Guillman is a perfect statesman, not really a politician but more an administrator... He also penned a codex for how to administrate once he returned... Ultramarines were always taught how to administrate a planet, since Guillman foresaw that if the great crusade would end then SM would have been without a job
thick shadow
I agree with this
vast frigate
i know what a decent ammount of the primarchs were meant for, guilliman just doesnt strike my interest so it can very well be that im missing information
barren tapir
He is the guy you call to solve an organizational mess
You give him a planet on the brink of anarchy and he fix it
barren tapir
He is probably the most balanced primarch, maybe not as good as lorgar for great speech, or as good as vulkan for creating stuff, but balanced among all qualities
vast frigate
Perturabo was meant to shatter the mechanicus from their belief as the last bastion of faith and religion.
Vulkan was meant to help humans understand the importance of hand craftsmanship and effort
Lorgar a spokesman and Truth developer
Angron was meant to relief humans of their pain, to be their saviour, literally
Sanguinius was meant to replace the emperor in form and representation
Leman his dog, his executioner and hunter
Lion'el was meant to help the underground happenings for hunting down possible heretical <chaos worshippers>
Ferrus was meant to aid humanity in keeping logic in productions, together with perty, no worship, only logic in tech
Conrad was to become leader of the ultimate judge logic, knowing what is right and what is wrong together with situational logic to that
Alpharius and Omegon were meant akin to Lion'el, just including infiltration, perhaps even within xenos species
Im completely baffled on whatever the Khan was meant to be
Dorn was meant to be the engineer and architect that shaped the new structures for the imperium, to drift away from religious buildings as well
oh right, craftsmanship and hard work was shared between fulgrim and ferrus
altho im unsure of Fulgrim's primary purpose
barren tapir
I disagree with some, like Perturabo wasn't to force the Ad. Mech. that was ferrus manus IMHO, also fulgrim was to be the exemplar of perfection, the example of what a human can be
final spruce
Fulgrim as about being the best at what you could do and learn to appreciate the finer thigns in life like art, music, from what I udnerstood of him
barren tapir
Dorn was the bulwark of the imperium, Perturabo was the inventor
final spruce
With him being into beauty and a perfectionnist
devout marlin
Fulgrim was probably meant to devlop the arts
vast frigate
Ferrus was much less inclined to invent and work against the mechanicus, Perturabo had quite a hand against religion
barren tapir
Perturabo was know to be a great siege engineer, but few know that he made projects for inceridble beatiuful cities and many other things
devout marlin
and let's be real the Khan was there because big E likes throat singing and wanted a live performer on hand at all times
vast frigate
the emperor was in plans to take out the cult mechanica, so im not sure which primarch wouldve done that otherwise
barren tapir
All primarchs were aganist religion, only lorgar was deep into it sadly
final spruce
Perty was a good innovator and an excellent mechanic from what I understood of him in horus Heresy
barren tapir
^^
final spruce
His basement being full of magnificent mechanical "toys"
devout marlin
in seriousness I think the Khan could've been something akin to an explorer, meant to be expanding the borders of the Imperium to the fringes even after the Great Crusade
barren tapir
Pert is like Leonardo da Vinci IMHO
vast frigate
yeah chances are that khan would patrol the borders of the universe
final spruce
Also him naturally understanding the binary used by the Mechanicus and being better than them at innovating and engineering
barren tapir
He was an inventor, but that doesn't mean that Leonardo didn't make war machines
vast frigate
Oh right
final spruce
Best known being his tank
vast frigate
mortarion would have been the lead on chemical and physical extermination
remember that he has an innate knowledge on attrition into extermination
final spruce
I think Mortarion was all about being able to withstand in the face of adversity
barren tapir
mortarion would have been the lead on chemical and physical extermination
Nah, more about bilogical improvement aganist illness
vast frigate
together with horus, probably leading the imperial army into the stars where need be
biological improvements can be used in more than one way
his willingness to go for attrition warfare isnt seen in any other army except during the iron cage iirc
barren tapir
I mean, the death guards were the legion who could resist more aganist biological threat
barren tapir
Lion
vast frigate
Best known being his tank
the circle tank, hilarious
no i noted him
hes what wouldve led things like the inquisition, just the less extreme variants
barren tapir
Yeah, but it make no sense, he isn't into police stuff
final spruce
Lion was all about chilvalry and being very oblivious 
devout marlin
Angron?
barren tapir
I think he should represent the nobility of man
vast frigate
i know it sounds outlandish
final spruce
Angron was about taking pain away
vast frigate
but angron is specifically meant to take away pain and suffering
devout marlin
Angron's "power" was like hyper-empathy right
final spruce
He could litteraly absorb your pain and sorrow
vast frigate
he would sit in the middle of the pain pits (sleeping cages) of his homeworld and absorb for those who couldnt sleep
final spruce
Sadly being exposed to an environment like that very young + the Nails doomed him
vast frigate
yeah
the nails were sort of self-replicating
which is what lead to the issues
they used nutrients to build deeper into the neural connective tissues, basically digging into his spine
thick shadow
and it all fucked up by Big-E's bad parenting AND most importantly, EREBUS
vast frigate
clap the erebus
devout marlin
Angron should've just been left to die
vast frigate
nah
final spruce
Indeed
vast frigate
the emperor shoudve beamed down and fought with him
final spruce
With the Insurgency of Nurecia
devout marlin
it would've been better for him, all of his sons, and the entire galaxy
he would've wanted it that way so it's not even cruel to just let him die
final spruce
Sadly Angron was "doomed" from the start
vast frigate
if the emperor showed his empathy for angron he woudlve connected way better
remember
devout marlin
big E let Corax deal with his shit
vast frigate
the emperor made an entire legion kneel
devout marlin
should've let Angron do it
vast frigate
with a sway of his hand
barren tapir
Lorgar was the problem, erebus was just a side problem
thick shadow
If Big-E had more... human
devout marlin
Erebus created the lorgar problem
barren tapir
If lorgar didn't go crazy for MuH rElIgIoN
vast frigate
Erebus sparked the larger problem
barren tapir
Then erebus couldn't have a grip on him
devout marlin
Lorgar would've been completely fine if he had been left alone
final spruce
The problem with Lorgar was his adoptive father
vast frigate
Theres something called the Dornian heresy, which is where the heretical primarchs are reversed
final spruce
That really fucked him up real good
barren tapir
what's Corax meant for
Wish of freedom and equality
final spruce
Isn't that the Khan ?
devout marlin
Isn't that kind of counterproductive for a dictatorship
thick shadow
Someone must've teach the Emperor "how to be a good parent"
barren tapir
Erebus is the one who made Lorgar go to Chaos
Yeah, but it is lorgar who always search for something bigger, it is lorgar who want to believe in fairy tales, erebus just pointed him to one
devout marlin
I'm not exactly an expert on authoritarianism but I think Emperors and kings aren't supposed to want their people to start asking for freedoms and liberties
barren tapir
Someone must've teach the Emperor "how to be a good parent"
Her wife tried, but failed
final spruce
That's because of his upbringing
thick shadow
If I was Big-E, I would just let Logar worship me
thick shadow
Damn...
barren tapir
I'm not exactly an expert on authoritarianism but I think Emperors and kings aren't supposed to want their people to start asking for freedoms and liberties
The emperor as title was a suggestion from malcador, Big E was quite libertarian as long you follow some large rules
crisp heath
Blood for the bloodgod!
barren tapir
If I was Big-E, I would just let Logar worship me
He did, but he wasn't ok with lorgar making others worshipping him
thick shadow
The way to punish Logar was... too much
barren tapir
Lorgar didn't spread the imperial truth like all other primarchs... That was a big no for big E, but the entire legio worshipped the emperor, and he was fine with that
vast frigate
The idea was to, as we know, kill off religion
devout marlin
showing up in a blazing golden light and forcing an entire legion to it's knees without so much as a word also doesn't do any favors to the "I'm not a god" argument
vast frigate
he did tell them ''its coz im a super psyker''
thick shadow
If I was Emp, I would say "It all fine, but could you focus on the counquering, Logar?"
Somethin' like that
barren tapir
The way to punish Logar was... too much
The emperor never used half measures... Also lorgar slapped big E emissary, malcador... And we all know that malcador was taken in high regard by big E
final spruce
Big E was fine with lorgar worshipping him, until he learnt why he was so slow in conquering aka Lorgar killing people on worlds that didn't worship Big E until the entire planet was full of believers
vast frigate
but they already saw as psykers being connected to the gods
so impart if you say youre a psyker
and humans go ''ah psyker = connected to turbo spook good so YOURE AN ANGEL!''
final spruce
And if Big E hated one thing in particular, it was zealots killing in the name of religion
thick shadow
Logar, you fool!
vast frigate
ohbtw
the golden thing was just the emperors teleporter
nothing he did himself
Hell, the custodes teleporter pad is called a Godstrike Teleportarium
final spruce
ESPECIALLY when the first FUCKING RULE OF THE IMPERIAL LAW WAS THAT ALL RELIGIONS ARE PROHIBITED
thick shadow
Cool is IMPORTANT
barren tapir
Big E even left colchis with its own government, without enforcing the imperial truth
thick shadow
Maybe Big E needed some... weed or Cuban cigars
barren tapir
Lorgar was probably the primarch with more permission from Big E, and he still managed to fuck things up
thick shadow
He was on really damn BIG amount of stresses
final spruce
And Big E wasn't even THAT xenophobic aka not outright killing xenos that were peaceful
barren tapir
Beastmens were part of the imperial army when big E still walked
thick shadow
But the xenos were like "yes-yes! Kill, invade!"
barren tapir
He would probably even form official alliances with eldar if he didn't see those as being a weight for mankind
thick shadow
But Eldar are AROGANT AF
devout marlin
I mean most of the enemies from the great crusade seem like they’re Orks, they only really go after other aliens who get in the way
Like they don’t exactly fight Eldar all that often
thick shadow
I think their arogant is keep getting lower tho
devout marlin
Orks are an active threat to imperial space so I get the need to purge them
barren tapir
But Eldar are AROGANT AF
True, but that to normal humans, big e wasn't a normal humans, eldars has been know to have good dealings with some exceptional humans
thick shadow
Imangine what if Tyrinids came during Big E's days
final spruce
Eldars knew not to fuck with Big E
thick shadow
would the Emperor say "Fuck"?
barren tapir
If you believe some stories they did... And the early space marine legions fought them
Also who know, probably he foresaw their coming
barren tapir
For sure he is aware of them in the 41 millennium
devout marlin
That would require him to foresee the heresy, which he still probably did
It just makes him an asshole
devout marlin
If Curze could see it coming big E definitely did
thick shadow
barren tapir
I have a theory, he can foresee things, but only the result, he don't know how to get that result
devout marlin
That would be counterintuitive given that he has two sons who can see things with much more clarity and a third who can technically also do it
barren tapir
That would explain why he had they image of every legion even before the primarchs get scattered, also i find too much weird that a primarch made to have a gene seed to be used with only one population on the entire galaxy go to that planet
devout marlin
Curze saw the heresy, Sanguinius sees all kinds of shit, Magnus technically can look into the future as well
For big E to only have hazy foresight just makes him look dumb next to them
barren tapir
Like, space wolf initiates can come only from fenris because the gene seed work only on them
devout marlin
I like the theory that the Primarchs were scattered on purpose
I also like the idea that the Khan and Fulgrim could’ve swapped places
barren tapir
For big E to only have hazy foresight just makes him look dumb next to them
They still have to understand if those vision were true, the emperor's one was 100% sure, but he cannot foresaw all the steps because too many variables
devout marlin
Khan would’ve probably gone full mad max on Chemos and it would’ve been rad
thick shadow
Ok, at this point. ABANDON REASON, KNOW ONLY WAR
barren tapir
Remember that even the eldar, and the mightest among them, cannot see the future with 100% precision
primal tide
Man pretty boy fulgrim would have looked out of place next to the bros on chogoris
barren tapir
And while we know that they are less strong than big E, or at least they should be, they may still be strong as a primarch
devout marlin
Not necessarily
Khan spent most of his time toppling that empire on Chogoris, Fulgrim was probably meant to go there and make it super cultured and stuff while Khan just recreated mad max on Chemos
verbal nest
With Astartes enhancements being what they are, why can't they just create a bunch of big brain dudes with 9000 IQ
final spruce
They did
Marines are far from stupid
Marines process things faster than any human can, during engagements they think about the multiple possible scenarios at the same time.
And most marines that do something else than fighting like craftsmen are usually masters
storm jungle
Yeah the more wilder marines usually act like savages due to their geneseed quirks
But some as Zher says are true tactical-boyz
final spruce
You're thinking about bloodclaws then
storm jungle
🤷♀️
Clearly we must have abandoned Angron at birth
SO MANY PROBLEMS WOULD BE AVOIDED
final spruce
Many people agree he should have died during the slave inssurection
vast frigate
i doubt he wouldve died
Even if they charged head on into the reinforcements
Remember the titanic plot armor primarchs get, unless they duel with eachother
final spruce
You say that yet Gulliman has lost every duel he ever had since he woke up
And almost died aswell
vast frigate
Did he die tho?
storm jungle
Isnt that what plot armor is though
vast frigate
that man came back from the brink more than a certain reproductive move i shall not name
storm jungle
It protects you when it needs to, goes away when the plot demands until you come back
also @vast frigate
vast frigate
Goddamnit
storm jungle
hehehe
vast frigate
Everything from the dorito face to the yellow skin
crisp heath
doesn't gulliman have a plot armor ability on the table top anyways
oh wait that's exactly what you're meming on
vagrant osprey
The best way to deal with Angron would have been this:
Big E tells the other primarchs he would do everything he could for Angron.
Then surgically removed the nails.
This kills Angron.
Then he 'mourns' with his sons, and doesn't tell them that he is perfectly capable of resurrecting people.
Although I find it odd that people were talking about what the point of the primarchs were, and what each one was 'supposed' to do.
They were an experimental proof of concept for a Custodes replacement.
They were supposed to provide experimental data.
primal tide
then resurrect angron, whos soul is devoid of the nails
you now have a clearminded total bro who owes the emp for being made whole again
crisp heath
it's stuff that doesn't make sense for the sake of the setting existing
it seems like the idea is Emps is too highly evolved to understand his sons need coddling and help and just human son stuff
but he's noted as a masterful diplomat so he has to have alot of understanding of working with humans and their emotions
it doesn't seem in character for him to estimate all of his sons could grit their teeth and bear it as he could
he should have known better but then the heresy would likely not have happened
and then you don't have wh40k
primal tide
Well, it's on record that his human emotions began to wane after molech
vagrant osprey
That's because he made a pact with a chaos god to sever him from his emotions.
That's literally the origin of the Star Child.
Also: Part of the reason why he's a masterful diplomat is because one of the powers he had was to make people believe what he said.
This is clearly demonstrated by the argument he had with the Last Priest, where he spouted absolute nonsense and the priest didn't call him on it.
The story is "The Last Church", and the priest's name was Uriah Olathaire.
Do remember that one of the canonical 40k psyker powers, which has always been there, is that Psykers can make people believe things that are demonstrably false.
storm jungle
@vagrant osprey Here is "literally the origin of the Star Child", from Realm of Chaos: The Lost and the Damned (1990), pages 184-185:
The Living Death
As the Emperor lay dying his psychic energy ebbed from his body. The immortality which had sustained him for so many centuries was no more, and the weight of age descended upon him. His body shrank and his bones cracked, his eyes sank into his skull and his skin darkened so all that remained inside his armour was a shrivelled mummy-like thing.Released from his body, the Emperor's psychic power, his soul, was cast adrift upon the tides of the warp, to be carried on the random undercurrents and eddies of the Sea of Souls until such time as it was ready to be reborn. Although the Powers of Chaos hunted tirelessly through the warp for the Emperor's soul they could not find it. The warp is huge, and its energies dispersed and flowing. Like the shamans of ancient times, the Emperor was at one with the whole warp, so his soul melted easily into it and so remained hidden from the Chaos Powers.
The Emperor's body was taken and placed in a life support machine. Although he was dead by any ordinary understanding of the word, while some of his cells still lived they provided a link through which his spirit could communicate with the material universe. While his body was relatively fresh it could be animated, and was even to speak a little. Thanks to this the Emperor was able to supervise the construction of a special psychic life-support machine called the Golden Throne.
Even the Golden Throne cannot keep the cells of the Emperor's dead body alive forever. Over the millennia the link between his soul and body has become increasingly tenuous. Worse of all, the Poewrs of Chaos have begun to infiltrate his mind, sowing seeds of doubt, dissolution and fear.
It is impossible to say for how long the Emperor can survive in this condition. It is unlikely that even he really knows how much time is left to him before the tenuous hold upon his physical body is broken by weakness or finally rent apart by insanity.
The Star Child
As the spirit of the Emperor drifted through the warp it gradually dissolved into the flow of energy, returning to the cosmic force of the nature of the warp in its uncorrupted form. Only a tiny core of the Emperor's humanity remained whole, like a small child bobbing upon the tide of a colossal storm in a tiny reed boat.Thus the soul of the Emperor was cast adrift into the warp. While the Emperor's soul survived there was still hope for mankind. For just as the New Man had been born from the collective souls of the shamans of old, so the Emperor's soul might be reborn one day. But that die would lie far in the future, when the cries for a new saviour would strengthen the core of the Emperor's soul and rekindle it into new life.
Meanwhile the soul of the Emperor was merely a potential, a child awaiting birth, the Star Child.
The humans that were left in charge of the Imperium had no real understanding of what has happened to the Emperor. The concept that he could be born again never occurred to them. To the rulers of the Imperium the Emperor continues to live, though his body was broken, by means of his indisputable powers.
Only a few select individuals learned the secret over the following millennia, and they became the highly secret brotherhood known as the Illuminati. The Illuminati await the birth of the Star Child and the second coming of the New Man. They know that their knowledge makes them dangerous heretics in the eyes of the Imperium, and consequently maintain a strict secrecy over their activities.
Meanwhile the Illuminati remains a secret force in human space, working away behind the machinery of government and commerce, preparing the way for the rebirth of the New Man.
Its the exact opposite of your argument. The Emperor's soul is avoiding the Chaos Gods.
+ We don't know that he made a deal with the chaos gods. We know he went into the portal on Molech, and he came out with greater powers. Everything else is fan theory. Evidence hints that this is Chaos BS being fed to Horus, even if its true or not we do not have a solid answer yet.
+ He didn't spout absolute nonesense in The Last Church.
People argue that there are theological answers to everything he brought up. Why on earth should the Emperor care about theology, which from his view is basically intellectual circle jerking over fictional things. The Emperor is allowed - imagine that - to refuse these fictional answers. While the book has always held an iffy spot, from a rationalist perspective everything he said makes perfect sense. (||Or could really just be the limitations of the author rather than the character||)
final spruce
The book is kind of getting old and the lore during the 90s wasn't as much developped as it is now
kind dove
Didn’t they retcon sensei/Illuminati/star child with the Inquisition hunting down and killing all the sensei and Illuminati?
Or at least most of them
final spruce
They weren't retconned per say but they haven't been montionned in 15 years
barren tapir
I don't know a lot about the star child and its creation (i tought it was created when big E killed horus, since he had to remove all the little affection he could have to his most favoured son to kill him) but i know a bit ore about the last curch on earth, and he didn't say anything nonsense, in fact it was uriah who resorted to illogical arguments, and that is why uriah decided to die with its curch, he couldn't accept that his "emotions" weren't enough to sway a logical person... Big E was also sad that uriah wouldn't change his mind, since he could have been a great iterator, if only he opened his eyes to the futility of religion
On the illuminati and sensei i know that they have been mentioned in an entry where inquisitors of the ordo hhereticus stormed a place and killed most of them, but the inquisitorn themself don't know if they got everyone of if they were truly heretics
odd sparrow
tbh the last church is a cool story but it does kinda cast big E with lowkey 14 year old atheist vibes
storm jungle
Oh hell yeah, like i said my last point is aimed at that. This book really should have written by someone more experienced because it makes Big E and Uriah look like dorm-mates talking about religion and screaming at each other
odd sparrow
y e p
I did like the bits with big E explaining away uriah's objects of faith from an objective lens but it still seems kinda just. yeah
verbal nest
Fidget Spinner STC
Discuss
storm jungle
General-Fabricator of Mars in TTS had one
verbal nest
Lol wut
storm jungle
They're great
Theres a reason why they're so popular
but they got a slow start, it started out more or so as a series where If the Emperor Had a Text-to-Speech Device and him ranting about the problems the Imperium had to deal with for thousands of years
THEN it evolved into a big series, akin to something like Red VS Blue
verbal nest
When did it start? I feel like I remember seeing them back in 2017 ish
verbal nest
2015 didn't seem so far away
storm jungle
Now it is grimgi
storm jungle
We'll be lucky if we even survive 2020!
atomic pelican
we longbeards at this point
verbal nest
Dilara the Grey
verbal nest
"Fool of a Bloop"
storm jungle
pffft
verbal nest
I just got an email from this company I've been studying at
They sent me a document of my work experience
Note: I'm really into PC building
"Your work experience is about Networking"
I'm mad tbh
Like it's easy sure
It's stuff I mastered 2 years ago
But why
primal tide
Bruh 2015 was yesterday
verbal nest
Time travel
vagrant osprey
Thank you, Dilara. I was incorrect!
vagrant osprey
I am never upset by being corrected :D
crisp heath
verbal nest
Apparently he's half comedy half informative
Which is the last thing I want from a Warhammer YouTuber
ebon plinth
I didn't think anything wrong with what he said so far
which is about 3 videos
but the way he describes things is fun yeah
like in the video I linked he explained how Big E could obliterate Lucius
"Here's how the fight would go : Big E would fart, and then Lucius would be deleted from existence forever"
Sure taht's not the most accurate description ever
but it's funny
storm jungle
Yeah majorkill doesnt really take himself seriously much its what i like about him
that and selling warhammer hentai that is
final spruce
Didn't know the guy, well now i'll know him for the joky porn 40k youtuber
vast frigate
as long as you dont watch arch seriously youre fine
vagrant osprey
Arch is literally the worst.
wise juniper
Why does everyone dunk on arch? He makes good content
cerulean wagon
cause politics
wise juniper
wide jewel
Constantly wrong about the lore and he's a racist which doesn't help
wise juniper
Right
cerulean wagon
He brought politics onto the same channel as his warhammer content and got a lot of flack for his opinions and the friends he chooses to keep, enough so that he is blacklisted by GW and thats why he had warhammer stripped from his name
storm jungle
Also doing stuff like comparing a sub-species of goblins in warhammer to african-american slaves
which is what the fuck
storm jungle
They... really didnt though
Theres a reason why hes generally hated instead of being "eh i dont like him" sort of guy
wise juniper
I have watched his content for a long time and it never came across to me as a racist
cerulean wagon
Lets not get into this, its a dumb discussion
wise juniper
Yeah
cerulean wagon
also psure politics arent allowed in partnered discords
wise juniper
If we talk warhammer content his content is pretty good
That is why I asked why everyone dunks on him
vast frigate
okay so, arch does great on lore videos, but he lets his own opinions and rants influence them
and that leads to issues in his information conveying
hes not as bad as One Mind Syndicate however
who just read off of the wiki and act like they did effort for their video, and they also let fan theories slip into their videos and say its not a big deal
vagrant osprey
Didn't he release a video where he argued that Astartes must all be white because they can't have 'genetic defects'?
storm jungle
Yeah lol
vast frigate
i mean that is literally wrong according to his salamanders video so
vagrant osprey
Yeah, so, that's wrong in every possible meaning of the word wrong
It's a video that exists, so ¯_(ツ)_/¯
vast frigate
He adressed the Agressive Political movement that shall not be named, in his salamanders video
where someone said that black space marines cant exist cause hurdur
No, theyre more less likely to exist because ship lighting will slowly lighten your skin
The melanin? i dont know the english word for skin changing chemicals, given by solar radiation, if strong enough, wont allow that to go far however
wise juniper
He did say all chapter take after their primary
vast frigate
so that aside, his content is fine but he does feel like there is factual prime lore for warhammer
wise juniper
Si he did question the black ultra marine
wise juniper
Im@not saying it’s not possible or impossible
vast frigate
you see a few mentioned in the shira calpurnia omnibus, theres quite some in older artwork
no im just constructing under
storm jungle
Like its the same reason as any ethnicity or culture in 40k existing; ITS ZHE GALAXY!
vagrant osprey
Astartes have their Melanochrome organ that controls their skin pigmentation.
storm jungle
so you can basically have anything you want
wise juniper
Yeah but he points out white scars being Asian or salamanders being black or charred
vast frigate
like dont get me wrong, yes, there is fixed styles and ethnicity within chapters
wise juniper
In the end space marines take after their primarch
vast frigate
thjats what makes them their own
wise juniper
Exactly
Nothing wrong with a black ultra marine
And he said so himself
So I think people just got carried away
vast frigate
Youre not gonna get a home style black fenrisian however
vast frigate
just like a pale nocturnian is unlikely
storm jungle
one of the space wolf companies are said to have dark skin
which is really weird but neat
storm jungle
REEEE
vast frigate
IIRc thats because of some warp fuckery
vast frigate
wery gut
the main issue is that people take written lore as canon
theres overarching truths yes
wise juniper
People need to chill a bit xD
vagrant osprey
Fenris was already full of warp fuckery :V
vast frigate
i get them tho,
vagrant osprey
They pray to dog daemons.
vast frigate
YEAH BUT ITS CHANGING
They explained why how and what cawl did with the primaris and cries of uproar existed
vagrant osprey
But no, if you want legit good lore videos, Baldermort is AMAZING, oculus imperia is fantastic, Lutin09 does a great job, etc...
vast frigate
Luetin is great
vagrant osprey
NGL, sometimes Lutin fucks up.
wise juniper
Yeah I am subbed to most of them
vagrant osprey
Like his STC and DAoT video got a lot wrong.
vast frigate
He does adress it in his comments
wise juniper
Lutins videos are just a bit too long for my taste
vast frigate
lore videos are something i listen to while modelling
storm jungle
Yeah unpopular opinion also from me but Luetin can be a real dick sometimes too
Especially his atrocious tau video
lol
vagrant osprey
That too.
wise juniper
Tau are space commie frogs
wise juniper
They are made to be hated
vast frigate
They arent made to be hated insomnium
Theyre GW's answer to the gundam builder aesthetic
wise juniper
Kek
vast frigate
theres a massive market in asian styled models
wise juniper
The next suits are pretty dope to be fair
vast frigate
and since they cant just introduce space china
wise juniper
Mech
vast frigate
i dont like all of them but i have mechanical issues with bipedal mechs
vast frigate
they dont do that.
vagrant osprey
(Sore point: Lutin said that there were forge/hive/agri worlds in the DAoT, so he concludes that STCs must have been extremely limited because that would have required mass trade. Except the forge/hive/agri world thing was something the Emperor set up during the great crusade to make it difficult for people to rebel, and if there had been that much trade during the DAoT then the Imperium would have ENDLESS DAoT ships kicking around.)
vast frigate
Thats a rumor from 1 game where that plotline didnt even win the campaign
storm jungle
Its really more about asian aesthetics
they arent even communist technically speaking lol
vast frigate
the ''humans are gelded/castrated'' was a small part of the game
storm jungle
its just another bad trend of stupid community memes as much as them being "fish people" when they arent even quatic species
vast frigate
and people took it as fact cause IT HAPPENED IN THE FIRST FEW MISSIONS SO IT HAS TO BE TRUE
vagrant osprey
The imperium castrates tons of people, so ¯_(ツ)_/¯
wise juniper
True lol
storm jungle
vagrant osprey
They do both.
vast frigate
it was a piece of scrap text ''we suggest maybe chemically castrating the populus to prevent population booming untill we solidly establish ground forces and perfect system dominance''
its not the whole quote or correct but it gets it across
wise juniper
Gotta prevent that slanesh heresy
vast frigate
and since the tau dont do it in any other goddamn excerpt, we can safely say its bogus
i still dont get how that single strip of text can have made it so far
while ''HURDUR SPACE MARINES CANT FUCK'' is gone since 10 years
vagrant osprey
I should probably note that "chemical castration" literally just means "something that causes temporary infertility and/or loss of libido"
vast frigate
yeah
vagrant osprey
And even that line says it's a proposed temporary measure
vast frigate
the tau sometimes prevent births/breeding so they can propperly index the planet or system, but thats a month or so
vagrant osprey
Yeah
vagrant osprey
Or to prevent populations outstripping food supplies.
wise juniper
I dunno
vast frigate
that and realizing what food supplies have to be sent in
wise juniper
Their greater good sounds iffy as fuck
vast frigate
cant accidentally have your first import starve three quarters of your people
vagrant osprey
It is iffy as fuck.
vast frigate
The greater good is part indoctrination, part religion part brainwash
the idea is good
storm jungle
Yeah its like joining a cult, its weird af but its not that terrible.
at least in the sense of 40k
DONT JOIN CULTS IRL
storm jungle
👀
vagrant osprey
They have a rigid caste system and that's not suitable for most Gue'sava
vast frigate
A better existance for everyone if we work together and do what we must.
If youre a tau youre automatically aboard cause you cant resist the pheromones.
If youre human you get special rights cause theres a fuckton of you and we need more soldiers and knowledge.
Theres also the god of the greater good! like space vishnu cause we have an arm for every race <but the ehtereals get mad cause the tau get 1 arm but humans get 2 arms. Arms represent the importance of a species for the greater good>
vagrant osprey
However, for 99.99999999999% of humans, the Tau are absolutely the best they could have hoped for.
storm jungle
Craftworlds are dapper
vagrant osprey
The entire point of 40k is that the Imperium is Doylistically designed to be the absolute worst thing for humans
vast frigate
nah humans have more impact to the greater good
cause theres more humans in the tau empire than there is... tau
wise juniper
I mean humanity has only so many choices
vagrant osprey
Honestly? I support the theory that the Tau started as a Necrontyr colony ship that the Old Ones fucked around with.
vast frigate
you can: become a genestealer cultist and get facehugfugg
you can: Join the greater Kroot, and get a nice home
you can: be a manufactorum worker, soldier, scribe, servitor, penal colonist.....
you can: be disintegrated by necrons
you can: possibly be accepted by cheogorag into the black library and have an infinite life of pure memes
O and you could possibly be Krumped
wise juniper
I rather join chaos than to be a tau slave to be honest
storm jungle
yikes
vast frigate
you will never have any reason to join chaos.
wise juniper
If I could choose
vast frigate
Chaos is not worth pursuing in any way shape or form
storm jungle
^
storm jungle
If you wanna fist-fight a lictor, by all means
storm jungle
I mean realistically
he doesnt care about you
as much as Guilliman has confirmed
vast frigate
Slaanesh will overload your senses and turn you into an over-crazed depraved and worthless soul scrap
Khorne will want you to kill maim burn according to honor before being allowed to do it for the fucks of it
Tzeentch will pump you full of warp juice and youll either become miserable or a stack of gibbering eyes and anusses
Nurgle doesnt love you. Grandfather nurgle just wants every single follower he has to not feel pain. Thats his blessing.
storm jungle
Pretty fun stuff
wise juniper
vagrant osprey
Tau and Necrontyr have almost identical physiologies, they both mutate rapidly (The Tau can develop new castes in one generation), theit rapid advancement of technology (Fire to FTL in 5000 years) is explainable by them having a crashed colony ship, and if we assume the colony ship was adrift and the galaxy was rotating past it, then in the 1/4th of a galactic year since the War in Heaven it would have gone from "Somewhere in Necrontyr space" to "The exact location of the Tau homeworld"
vast frigate
that and yes
wise juniper
Not good enough kek
vast frigate
what connects the tau for me to the necrontyr the most
vast frigate
No other species ive seen so far has the description ''Leathery Skin''
Both tau and necrontyr have/had it
wise juniper
I got a shovel
vast frigate
i got a chain shovel
wise juniper
I don’t need plasma
vast frigate
also remember that the tau pretty much evolve to the point of more humanoid attraction in the watercaste
smoother skin, more supple as well, and mild chest growth
vagrant osprey
Tau and Necrontyr are the only individually-sentient species with leathery skin, and the same goes for hyper-mutation
storm jungle
Eyyyy
vast frigate
which is the best part of their lore
storm jungle
love this art
vast frigate
so
theres a theory and a useable method for chemically cooking food
and some games touch on it, which is cool
The tau rations have chemically cooked noodle packs
storm jungle
Man I need to read more tau stuff
gilded pawn
so do MREs
vast frigate
you break a digestible container at the bottom of the pack, which auto cooks the stuff
then after 2 minutes you can eat it
vagrant osprey
For MREs you just add water.
vast frigate
i dont know much about MRE's but i know they nuke your intestines if you eat them for the first time
vagrant osprey
Only some of them!
vast frigate
cause its condensed minerals and vitamins
gilded pawn
everything a Guardsman needs
vast frigate
a fisty
vagrant osprey
(Avoid the vomlette)
storm jungle
Theres gonna be celebration
vast frigate
well i have to say
storm jungle
and much fisting!
gilded pawn
the 5 finger Grox Surprise
vast frigate
id love to see a guardsman whose as smart as a story of a guy i read about
basically
on marine ships <apparently>to honor the first and second world war soldiers, youre not allowed to grab the good food for the first week or so
you take the packaged food
so this private takes the packaged food, packaged eggs, mayo, paprika powder etc
and sits down, all the while a drill sergeant just stares him down
four of the guys stand over him yelling WHAT THE FUCK IS THAT while he makes devilled eggs with his rations
give me a guardsman who can make a goddamn diner with his rations
wise juniper
Not much you can do when you only eat shit and tau legs
vast frigate
looks like meat is back on the menu BOIZ
vast frigate
who said i meant the tau
vast frigate
is that the one assassin who refused to take the shot?
storm jungle
Yep thats him
vast frigate
wise juniper
Lol
vagrant osprey
Taldeer is yet another a reason why CS Goto needs to be yeeted the fuck away from GW
primal tide
cs goto is a madlad
final spruce
True Goto quote : "My form of canon is just as valid as anyone else's. Warhammer nerds need to get out of their mother's basements and do something with their life before they start criticizing others."
sage ember
wasn't there also some kind of coffee in warhammer 40k?
mellow depot
recaf?
storm jungle
I could understand Goto's quote kinda if he wasnt such a twat to begin with and shit at lore lol
final spruce
I actually never had the disatisfaction of actually reading one of his books so all I heard off is what people told me of him.
vast frigate
Like, as well as that his quote is absolutely useless
Regardless of where you sit on your life, if someone doesnt use the broad lines of canon, theyre factually wrong
primal tide
Factually wrong is a difficult topic for 40k canon haha
There are so many contradictions 😓
vagrant osprey
Didn't CS Goto have the blood ravens murderfuck Taldeer to death?
barren tapir
A better existance for everyone if we work together and do what we must.
If youre a tau youre automatically aboard cause you cant resist the pheromones.
If youre human you get special rights cause theres a fuckton of you and we need more soldiers and knowledge.
Theres also the god of the greater good! like space vishnu cause we have an arm for every race <but the ehtereals get mad cause the tau get 1 arm but humans get 2 arms. Arms represent the importance of a species for the greater good>
Ayone know the source of this? It is an interesting topic, since it is true that tau have little influence in the warp
storm jungle
The entire tau pheromone thing was an invention of Xenology wasnt it?
atomic pelican
Xenology implied straight up mind control
I'm pretty sure pheremones is just a fan theory
verbal nest
Tfw the only Goto I know is the one from Kotor
verbal nest
A droid who thinks he's a crimelord and managed to make everyone actually fear him
primal tide
I believe the pheromone theory is only that, we know there is some sort of mind control going on but the method hasn't been confirmed
atomic pelican
The mind control itself isn't even confirmed
/was only mentioned in Xenology
which is uh
noncanon
to my understanding
Either noncanon or can be interpreted as Imperial bias
vagrant osprey
Xenology is explicitly written as Imperial propaganda.
atomic pelican
Yeee
That
The majority of the community's understanding of the Tau seems to just be fan theories that got parroted into being fully believed sudhfnsduhnf
Fan theories/xenology
primal tide
I believe there is more info from farsights perspective where he feels like their influence wanes after being away for a long time or sth
vagrant osprey
So it's going to be a mix of facts with statements that are designed to make non-humans seem like monsters deserving of death ¯_(ツ)_/¯
primal tide
I'll look for a book exerpt
atomic pelican
instantly creating a military junta wherein the fire caste just replaced the ethereals as the top class
sdfuhndfuhn
primal tide
I doubt farsight has a reason to mislead the reader privy to his internal thoughts tho 🤷
storm jungle
Xenology isnt really propaganda as ive read the entire thing and have a pdf of it
its more or so mad ravings of a bio-techpriest
atomic pelican
it could also be interpreted as just... being away from the ethereal pseudoreligion
that happens when people leave their culture
storm jungle
most of the stuff it said is true and it has really interesting fluff
atomic pelican
They lose the influence of it
vagrant osprey
Fair. Less Propaganda and more... Steeped in deep zealotry?
storm jungle
Yeah kind of?
spoilers; in the end the base is blown up anyway
and necrons were involved
primal tide
Naturally
vast frigate
Pheromones for tau are the more accepted outcome from the xenology report
It seems unlikely that its mind control cause thatd mean unwavering following of worss
Words*
atomic pelican
Doesn't the entry just make some vague assumption about their forehead organ?
Not a specific thing?
I've seen the excerpt but It was awhile ago
storm jungle
One sec ill get the page
storm jungle
Yep, this is the entire section on the Tau apparently
It has an interview, speculation and finally the organ hypothesis and what their purpose is
also the file, its pretty big but this entire book is really rare to find so if anyone wants the PDF here you go:
storm jungle
YE BOI
vagrant osprey
The Inquisitor's conclusion is not valid based on the evidence.
atomic pelican
Yee
storm jungle
"send feet pics"
atomic pelican
That + where are his hooves bro.
storm jungle
storm jungle
But yeah for context
vagrant osprey
Those are feet, yes.
storm jungle
This is an inquisitor sent to investigate this site
so his entire deal is basically "what the fuck is this shit this techpriest has been researching?"
the techpriest also had a kroot in his employ the inquisitor bitches about lol
vagrant osprey
It certainly looks like the techpriest was doing his job correctly.
odd sparrow
Will never understand why that particular depiction has them with three toed feet instead of hooves tbh
vagrant osprey
Was that Inquisitor from Ordo Hereticus?
storm jungle
I'll check
vagrant osprey
Because that seems like Ordo Hereticus behavior.
storm jungle
Yeah he actually wants to shoot the kroot in the face the moment he sees it but the priest stops him from doing so for the time being
His transcript + mission report for heading into the site
vagrant osprey
Wow, these are the most fucking incompetent Ordo Xenos I've ever heard of.
vagrant osprey
?
final spruce
Def
storm jungle
But yeah the plot twist is
it was all a c'tan behind it
because at the end page you get another transcript from the inquisition
who are all like
"what the fuck are you talking about, we didnt send a report"
final spruce
Deceiver at it again
vagrant osprey
The Ordo Xenos is one of the driving forces behind the Magos Xenologist existing, so them getting upset at there being a xenobiology facility is insipid as fuck :V
storm jungle
It isnt in context
especially when this facility is apparently more ""shady"" than they think
again the 4chan page of this gives a really brief and nice summary for the entire book, definitely worth a short read of it
vagrant osprey
I will do so.
storm jungle
Yeah its a ride
final spruce
I guess they should have realized earlier that the lab on was on Stygies VIII
(which is not)
barren tapir
Ehy, Styges VIII is an amazing forge world and completely loyal to the omnissaiah! If you have heard anything else it was all a lie!
final spruce
I never said anything about Stygies 8 not being loyal ? Are you insinuating something here ?
vagrant osprey
The idea of Ethereals controlling the Tau through Pheromones gets kinda silly when you realize they can apparently do so both through sealed environmental suits and without actually being physically present. ¯_(ツ)_/¯
final spruce
Busted
atomic pelican
but muh tau bad as imperium!!!
barren tapir
Of course not, it is just that someone has spread false information about it
storm jungle
^
atomic pelican
To their defense, there are sillier parts of the lore pseudo
storm jungle
I placed all the pages on the tau there, even the pheromone stuff is like a brief mention
atomic pelican
Yeee
final spruce
One of the only recent mentionned pheromones in Tau faction was in a Kroot novel, with Kroots using pheromones to make scientist taus horny to mess with them and having fun at their expense
storm jungle
even the inquisitor's tone makes it seem like hes all high and mighty about "lmao these guys suck if they fall to mind control, i sure as hell wouldnt!"
barren tapir
It was probably a test to see what would have attracted interest
atomic pelican
People generally just want reasons to hate the Tau, whether that be for that reason or through... questionable lore that's been repeated so much it's just accepted at face value
storm jungle
Ah remember Aun
final spruce
Its a novel within the Tau codex I think ?
storm jungle
OH SHIT
final spruce
Like a little snipet
atomic pelican
That sounds amazing.
barren tapir
People generally just want reasons to hate the Tau, whether that be for that reason or through... questionable lore that's been repeated so much it's just accepted at face value
Do people really need reasons to hate them?
storm jungle
They do seem to want reasons though
atomic pelican
Yee
atomic pelican
I'm fine with people disliking factions because that's just opinion but the Tau get it rough.
barren tapir
We are in the 41st millennium, who need justification anymore?
storm jungle
^
final spruce
Just hate away
barren tapir
I mean, i put myself in the people that hate tau, but mine isn't really hate more making fun of them
atomic pelican
Yee that's like the majority of the fanbase since their release
final spruce
I think a big part of the Tau hate is based on the tabletop
barren tapir
Like, i really want them to face a truly chaos army
final spruce
Especially with older editions
barren tapir
It will be extremely funny
barren tapir
They have fought some death guards
final spruce
Yeah, Because of all the auxiliares, Taus have to face Chaos daemons now
storm jungle
The Plague Wars sizzled away too that even GW forgot about it lol
atomic pelican
Lul
barren tapir
And they get punded by the death guard, that it seem that it wasn't even targeting them
final spruce
During the opening of the Cicatrix Maledictum, a good bunch of psykers and auxiliaries just went Boom and summoned daemons
barren tapir
Yeah, Because of all the auxiliares, Taus have to face Chaos daemons now
They faced demons even without auxiliares... Farsight had fought them on a world where there were only tau and orks
final spruce
Yeah but now on the inside
barren tapir
Also i would like to know if necrons and tau clashed, since it seems that the tau know of the necrons
final spruce
Which is something that didn't happened before, well en masse
barren tapir
You are right, before they hardly had humans psykers, now it is more probable... Funny times ahead for them
atomic pelican
I'm pretty sure there's a Necron dynasty waking up in the top side of Tau space(?)
Alot of rising problems
atomic pelican
Yeee
final spruce
Some just stay on their Tomb Worlds alone and it suits them
barren tapir
Yeah, there is, that was also a reason for the startide nexus, they had to find a way to expand without having to fight their neighbor
final spruce
Yeah.... not gonna happen with Necrons
Its litterally Cranky Boomer meet Naive Zoomer
vagrant osprey
It seems like the Necrons should basically just ignore the Tau, tbh
It's not like they're edible.
barren tapir
That is why they tried to use last developed warp engines, they had to find a way out without going through
Tau surely recognize that they are just small, they must have recognized that going aganist ultramar would be bad, really bad, even if they "won" the last wars with the imperium
atomic pelican
I think that
The higher Tau, Shas'o and probably the ethereal council know
But it's a point in some novels
that most Tau don't know the size of the human imperium
Esp when interacting with Gue'vesa
They think the references to population and size are just miscommunications
storm jungle
I love that bit
final spruce
Remember when the Imperium sent an Assassin Death squad on the Tau ? I 'member
atomic pelican
rip Aun'Va :(
storm jungle
wasnt that Horus
atomic pelican
If that's wat ur talking abt
atomic pelican
It's really funny that
vagrant osprey
Wasn't Horus dead for like 5000 years when the Tau were discovered soon after they invented fire?
atomic pelican
The assassination basically accomplished nothing on a large scale
Since the ethereal council just pretended Aun'Va never died
FHUDNFUDN
final spruce
I'm currently trying to find someone that does 3d printing so I can get a female Culexus mini
atomic pelican
extra thicc
barren tapir
Need to have muscle to be the best weapon you can
storm jungle
realistically yes latex is squeaky
but you know 40k would be like
"uhhhh its a stealthsuit idk"
atomic pelican
Getting attacked by a imperial gimp assassin
storm jungle
LOL
storm jungle
tell MGS that
primal tide
Lmao sprayed on
storm jungle
TIGHT ASSES
atomic pelican
starts choking in rain
barren tapir
Lmao sprayed on
It is true!
storm jungle
Quiet noooo
primal tide
If you can't get assassinated by a dummy thicc skull boy what's the point of life
final spruce
Even the Vindicare doesn't escape the fate
barren tapir
final spruce
Ngl, the Eversor a spicy
barren tapir
It is sprayed on the body!
primal tide
Lol
storm jungle
but yeah i love it lol
final spruce
2005 tho
storm jungle
How can these guys sneak around
when their ass-cheeks keep clapping into each other
atomic pelican
hrhnghng colonel
mellow depot
the other fuckin issue
final spruce
The Eversor doesn't sneak around wdym
mellow depot
is that, with humans at least, you'd die of heat exhaustion
storm jungle
"WRYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY"
primal tide
That is wife material right there
mellow depot
agreed
barren tapir
Having haris that long... Isn't the best in a tactical situation
mellow depot
she uses it as a weapon obviosly
primal tide
Tactical I whip my hair back and forth I whip my hair back and forth
final spruce
Yeha but Lilith's a bit more savage about it
final spruce
having blades in it
storm jungle
Look calliduses literally swallow babies
im sure they dont mind long hair for sneaky-sneak
primal tide
Swallow babies eh? 😏
storm jungle
👀
atomic pelican
storm jungle
Mother Gullet was a wild one
final spruce
Terrifying
primal tide
Mother what
barren tapir
Swallow babies eh? 😏
I see what you did there
storm jungle
Mother Gullet is reputed to have been a Callidus Assassin who was dispatched to a world where the Planetary Governor Thygmus van Spracht was defying Imperial rule. The legend says that she discovered the Governor's weakness in his love for his infant son. Disguising herself as the child's nanny, the assassin used the shape-changing properties of polymorphine to swallow the child whole so that she could safely walk out of the Governor's residence with it in her stomach.[1][2]
As the tale has spread, the Callidus Assassin has earned the name of Mother Gullet.
storm jungle
LMAO
primal tide
Miss me with that vore fetish shit lmfao