For Tau its like 6 minis
#40k-minis-and-armies
elfin yew
Ahh
edgy cipher
However
People have created a balanced edition of KT that is constantly updated
Which however demands a bit more minis
Since its played with Commanders
Aka 200ptd game instead of 100
elfin yew
Yee that's nice
Not too big of a problem, I usually just get collector boxes when getting into a faction anyways
and I think the Tau one is like, uhh, 300-400 points worth?
Not sure
edgy cipher
Its around 300
And Taus can, just by buying 2 start collecting have an army almost done for 1k points
Just buy a riptide on top and boom
elfin yew
Yeee
edgy cipher
But waiting for their codex is a smart move
elfin yew
I've got many skelebones to paint in that time anyways heh
edgy cipher
Drybrush time
near jungle
nova hinge
Feels Ayayayaya
old mango
aya ya y ay a ya something yeah cake by the oean
languid flume
crisp forge
look at em
trying to balance that cup
adorable
but memes aside the codex art really is slick as FUCK
crisp forge
I really want the space wolf one the most i think, need me that art boi
elfin yew
Yesss
Space Wolves are my fave chapter, had a friend who built some recently
Also Aesthetics are cool
crisp forge
Yeaaaah Im reading ragnar's books too currently
they're great, its just the furry stuff and the "wolf" prefixes that are their achilles heel lol
elfin yew
That's the funny part to me sdunfhdhn
crisp forge
Pffft true but still THERES SO MANY
But the wolf codex is after the B. Angels if i remember right, apparently its gonna have some fluff for the Fang so im really excited to get it
elfin yew
Does anyone know the exact like, 'timeline' of codexs to come?
edgy cipher
You can see a dread
elfin yew
I remember reading that it was space marine stuff first, then I think xenos early-mid 2021?
edgy cipher
Its on the website
elfin yew
Ahh
elfin yew
Bless u
crisp forge
Yeah but if i remember right sadly the Blood Angels are coming out first, i really want the Wolves since it apparently has fluff for the Fang
i need it
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And I assume the first one in January is Ultramarines
crisp forge
lmao
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Thats the thing im not sure about
edgy cipher
Or its Knights
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Games Workshop did a sneak peak about a new Xenos race yes
crisp forge
I doubt it personally, these are the twats that cant even update their oldest factions.
elfin yew
Hopefully actually new and not just Tau auxillary
edgy cipher
So their codex being in January and released alongside the new minis, that'd work
elfin yew
As much as I love the auxillary idea
edgy cipher
Oh no, they said its a compeltely new factions
elfin yew
Nice
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Actually related to Eldars
elfin yew
Ooo
crisp forge
WOT
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But without being eldars
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WOT 2x
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first time im hearing its relating to the "eldar"
elfin yew
Exodites vs Salamanders boxset omegalul
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They said it wouldn't be exodites
elfin yew
ahh
crisp forge
FFS
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It was hinted as a euclidic faction
elfin yew
Shame, exodites are a pretty neat faction from fluff
but something new is interesting too
We shall c
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With "unknown battle force" fighting alongside craftworld eldars
I mean, exodites aren't that different from Craftworld eldars really
elfin yew
'dragon' riders
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Really ?
elfin yew
dnshfuhndsf
crisp forge
WAIT
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Shit that's neat
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YOU DONT KNOW?
Yeah dude the crazy assholes ride dinosaurs with laserbeams on their backs
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I do not, my eldar knowledge comes from the 5th edition codex
So, its kind of old now
crisp forge
Yeah like exodites area lso old
they got like 2 official art pieces lol
But they've been always in the fluff
mostly getting murdered
but they are the wood elves of the setting
edgy cipher
Here
was watching the Long War live and they mentioned that they had received a rumour from a source that took great lengths to remain anonymous.
Anyways.. The word is that an entirely new Xenos race is coming to 40k.
They are called the Anerith or something similar, and are apparently connected to one of the unknown Xenos species on that unique artwork in the latest rulebook.
The lore is that the race has been targeted by the Tyranids because the Hivemind wants their unique ability to be absorbed. The ability in question is time manipulation - being able to rewind time or move forwards.
Just a few extras I wasn't specific on in the original post:
-apparently the model range will set a new standard for 40k models, in the way that some of the new AoS factions have been so incredible, visually.
-the time manipulation does sound like it's very limited - only minutes or seconds. What I imagine on the tabletop is undoing a movement, or changing position out of turn - things like that?
I agree with all points of view so far in response. Yes, some factions definitely need many of their models to be updated. At the same time a whole new faction will create buzz, hype and excitement because it's such an unknown quantity.
The supposed race, Amanita Horrificus, is aligned with the Eldar to prevent the Tyrannids from achieving their ultimate goal. The rumor is that they are sentient fungus-like creatures, and the name supports the theory.
The new race is the Amanita Horrificus, a race of sentient walking fungus-like creatures. This is one of the races fighting alongside the Eldar to prevent the Tyranids from gaining the ability to manipulate time by protecting the dying remnants of a species able to do so from consumption and adaptation by the hive mind.
New 40k Xenos Race Design & Rules
Their design philosophy is simple yet cool. See they have two things, one of which is weapons that generate “AoEs” that persist from a few marked points on the battlefield to the end of the round. These extend a number of inches from said point and can buff friendly models or debuff enemy models. This serves as their replacement to psyker actions. Generally not too powerful but cool things like adding or subtracting attacks (multi bonuses are subject to a D3 roll and are harder to put out), movement, or simply serving as cover.
elfin yew
fungus like
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Here are the infos
crisp forge
I'll believe it when i see it!
like i said before GW cant even keep other factions on the pipeline or even update them since its all about marines
edgy cipher
I don't think its about the marines
crisp forge
I'll actually spasm out if this is a new race
edgy cipher
The necrons actually got MORE models than the Primaris until now with the new chaplain
hasty sorrel
considering last time we got a "original new exciting faction" it was just space marines 2
edgy cipher
I just think that they have a release schedule planned and they wanted the new minis to go with dem codexes
hasty sorrel
im not holding my breath
crisp forge
yeah me neither
edgy cipher
Let's wait and see
crisp forge
But it'll still be neat if its true
cant wait for them to take more flak and give the Tau some breathing room
elfin yew
god bless
edgy cipher
You mean eating the Taus ?
crisp forge
Yeah to this day people are salty over them lol
elfin yew
People are always salty about the Tau because muh grimdark
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ThEy DoNT fİt The SeTtİnG
elfin yew
YEAH
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MuH mElEe
edgy cipher
Ah, that kind of grief
elfin yew
Most sympathetic faction being small and insignificant isn't grimdark, apparently
crisp forge
^
hasty sorrel
my hate for tau isnt even about settings stuff
edgy cipher
I mean, looking at the picture, its an horrifying looking fungus with mechanicus guns
hasty sorrel
other then some of their dumber lore
i just dislike the way they are handled for tabletop balance
elfin yew
Which part? Tau have been basically fine since they removed the devilfish shit
edgy cipher
They tried to fix thigns with Farsight
hasty sorrel
No they arent lmao
edgy cipher
But farsight is still very shooty
hasty sorrel
you can get a riptide so cheap
elfin yew
Oh yeah LOL
edgy cipher
hasty sorrel
a game where range is an advantage
making a faction entirely focused around range
always leads to issues
elfin yew
While basically not having a melee or psyker phase
crisp forge
I can get the tabletop hate but the lore stuff just gets tiring.
elfin yew
Mostly because ppl who complain about their lore haven't actually read Tau fluff^
crisp forge
Yeah exactly
elfin yew
Outside of 1d4chan
edgy cipher
You say that yet Guardsmen have a similar issue
crisp forge
they are literally in their own little space in the galaxy, they arent doing anything, leave them alone lol
edgy cipher
Difference is, we got imperial allies and psykers
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Cain was never the real hero anyway
crisp forge
Yeah i meant more in how people are so salty that they arent destroyed yet
edgy cipher
Jurgen was
elfin yew
Yeee
Tau survive because of better tech than, well, most factions in 40k
Except maybe the eldar
hasty sorrel
but i think my issue is that people will die on the hill of defending tau even against valid criticism (as much as people are also dicks in return)
edgy cipher
Loyal, a blank and a crackshot with a melta
hasty sorrel
oh them being alive is w/e
elfin yew
You can say the same thing about Imperial fans lol
hasty sorrel
its their weirder sub races and stuff
crisp forge
lol yep
edgy cipher
You can say that about any factions
Don't forget people complained about the Space Marines nerfs
crisp forge
Warhammer fans are like star wars fans
they hate their own universe more than anyone else
edgy cipher
You know ? The most comeptitive army that's schitk is litteraly it will win
elfin yew
The amounts of times I've had people quote the non-canon sterilization stuff from DoW dilara
It's inasne
Or xenology
which is noncanon
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god i know
elfin yew
about the Tau
edgy cipher
Only way to win against marines is focusing on points and choosing which unit feed to the slaughter machine
Taus have their own flavor of grimdark anyway
crisp forge
And it surely isnt calling them communist or fish people
hasty sorrel
the worst for people quoting stuff
crisp forge
when their only aquatic feature is vehicle names
edgy cipher
Calling them communists when they are pretty fascist themselves
elfin yew
I wouldn't call them fascist but they lack the material conditions to be communist
Since the Tau have like
never had
a bougousie to our knowledge
but that's dialectical stuff
crisp forge
Nah dude they're communists
edgy cipher
If they are not the Bourgeoisie
elfin yew
FHDFN
The Ethereals ultimately control no labor/etc. The Castes ultimately work together in a sort of commune
the ethereals are more like uhh organizers
Who have turned into religious leaders
edgy cipher
The only asia things about them are the mall katanas and the gundam-y mechs
elfin yew
in a way
crisp forge
yeah true Aun
elfin yew
Since the Greater Good is basically a pseudo-religion
edgy cipher
I don't agree
elfin yew
Even the Tau fluff refers to them "The first among equals"
edgy cipher
Ethereals are worshipped as the superior caste
And litteraly control the breeding and the genes of the other castes
elfin yew
Err
That's not quite true
The superior caste part can be argued since the Tau do defend them to the death basically
But even then you have examples of other Castes defying them/etc. Which implies no such like
silly mind control shit
and such
edgy cipher
It's jsut heavy endoctrination
elfin yew
I'm not sure where the gene part comes from
edgy cipher
But they do use things like mind worm mind control
elfin yew
You could also just say that the Greater Good is simply a better form of living than basically the rest of the galaxy
elfin yew
The mind worm control is kind of
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elfin yew
er
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look at least it isnt bad as Vect
elfin yew
not really implied
YES
Although Farsight is also just
a military junta
if you hate the ethereals idk why you'd like him
He's basically the ethereal caste but fire caste
instead
edgy cipher
How is that not implied when they use those ?
crisp forge
Farsight is a rebel man, he be livin' outside that system dude
elfin yew
It's not said that they use them, just that they are a ally of the Tau
hasty sorrel
oh i hate farsight aswell lol
elfin yew
Alot of the anti-Tau fluff is basically implied enough to be argued over
Which is
typical 40k fashion
Ex: Even the xenology stuff was 'implied' rather than explicit
crisp forge
Which one!
elfin yew
Ah that kind of makes sense in that fashion
Because
Space Marines are deemed unsaveable
By the Tau
Astartes, Tyrannids, and Orkz
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They were after that incident
elfin yew
Yess though I'm still unsure
Brain-wormin someone who's a combatant seems different to me
crisp forge
Im still sad the necrons they went to greet after saving them were assholes
elfin yew
Than a population
edgy cipher
crisp forge
Imagine if it was Trazyn or something lol
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"From this interrogation we can draw one conclusion, no more: the gue’ron’sha cannot be incorporated into the Tau’va. Where encountered, all efforts must be expended to destroy them."
elfin yew
Yee spesh marines
elfin yew
I hope the craftworlds end up getting new models this coming year or something
Their line is so dated.
My bestfriend plays Craftworlds and I feel bad for her
To me they just look vaguely like banana shaped humanoids with their helmets
edgy cipher
I mean if those fungus guys are allies of eldars
elfin yew
Oh yeah, I moreso meant actual eldar
edgy cipher
I think the eldars may get an overhaul SoB style when their codex comes out
Seing how more people actually buy them
Especially the Harlequins
crisp forge
I still love how all the eldar models are almost older than us
elfin yew
yep
The Tau seem to have gotten the most love of any xeno(other than Necrons, most recently) but that's probably because they're the newest
Poor Nids/Eldar
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False
elfin yew
o?
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Mechanicus has received more love than Taus
elfin yew
shndffn
elfin yew
Mechanicus are cool
edgy cipher
Y
elfin yew
Only human faction I've been interested in really
crisp forge
Its that steampunk vibe they got going on too
elfin yew
yesss
crisp forge
its a good example of how you make something wacky and people love it
they're leonardo da vinci blueprints on crack
elfin yew
I remember seeing a pic where (hereteks, I think?) had rigged up some Tau pulse gun and it looked really cool
And some other alien tech
edgy cipher
That's why they are heretek
shell yacht
Forgive me for this Emperor-awful lighting, but let me show you some Necron Warriors I finished assembling. A few things to mention, starting with the obvious. These 2 necrons have suffered during assembly, one had their proper arm either used or missing and the other had their snap off after I stepped on it or something. So I clipped the arm and made it so the leg less is crawling on the ground. Since in the new lore the lover Necron constructs aren’t very well maintained I think it fits good. You’ll see some more on my Necrons and Dark Angels when I’m done with all of them.
shell yacht
No.
hasty sorrel
why u gotta crump him like that
shell yacht
It was an accident I swear.
hasty sorrel
near jungle
manic flume
I don't think Tau form of government can be classified in human forms, you can only compare them instead. IMO their Caste/Estates system, specific "nobility" caste and social-oriented policies makes them an Enlightened Absolutist country on steroids.
dusk hill
yeah it's v weird. Weird utopian collectivist caste based oligarchy
plush swift
didnt ancient egypt and parts of india also have caste systems
edgy cipher
Not caste for ancient egypt, more like echelons
elfin yew
The caste system is hardly what we think of one either. Considering that the castes are more like subspecies
With actual bio differences between them
That and the only 'higher caste' is the ethereals, with the others being equals. Tbh its basically just castes in name because uh
GW went "asia cool" with their motif fhdbddb
plush swift
castes fits as a name
I mean, I wouldn't be surprised if there had been very minor biological differences in actual caste systems irl
elfin yew
There havent been
plush swift
after a couple centuries of selective breeding for certain traits things are gonna be different
manic flume
even very minor biological differences take millenias to appear
they are not possible IRL without genetic interference
elfin yew
Air Caste has a hard time in atmosphere that isnt low for example
+These differences existed before the Caste system
When they were tribes
plush swift
the rooskies got bio diffs outta foxies within like 60 years or so, via breeding alone @manic flume
dusk hill
Yeah the diff castes were very very different all the way back to the formation of the Tau Empire and before. They're subspecies as well as like, societal castes
manic flume
yes, but can you selectively breed a human? or any sentient being, sci-fi speaking?
plush swift
you can, it's less so about possibility and moreso morality
dusk hill
is worth noting that natural selection can actually work very, very fast situationally. Ur underestimating the potential speed of evolution
elfin yew
Natural selection doesnt really apply to developed peoples
dusk hill
obv our standards of taxonomy are all arbitrary but we have been able to observe speciation in v fast reproducing animals like flies
Sure it does, just depends on the actual society we're looking at. If we're trying to apply this to tau then what happened is the different initial castes lived in different climates, diversified into subspecies to better fit their climates and burgeoning societies, ethereals promptly appeared and now kinda guide each subspecies to fulfill their societal role + no reproduction with other subspecies
eugenics kind of vibe
elfin yew
Oh yes, their previous tribes being pre modernistic society
But at the point food and basic needs are met, and the culture takes care of its ill and weak, it generally ceases
manic flume
is it even possible for different tau specimen to reproduce? they have very big biological differences that are not restricted to phenotypical differences
elfin yew
I dont think they can but Im actually unsure. Regardless, they are kept from intermixing
In any sense
Romantic or otherwise
dusk hill
Broadly yeah. It will still apply in things that can't reasonably be accounted for by the current society, stuff like skin tone as it relates to cancer, but that's a super big topic
crisp forge
Im late but yeah what @elfin yew said earlier, its the same reason as why every I.G vehicle is named after a greek monster, it simply sounds cool.
elfin yew
Welcome
dusk hill
I don't think that's ever been answered. Probs can but up to GW
elfin yew
I see a Tau topic and my eyes snap open like thar squidward meme
crisp forge
dusk hill
tau best faction tbh
plush swift
natural selection is not ever not in effect, if the environment changes that just means what is selects for changes, survival of the fittest doesn't mean always choose physically strongest or whatev
crisp forge
the tau just need to pack up and gtfo of the milky way
tyranids or not this shit isnt worth it
lol
manic flume
If it will be confirmed that Tau from different castes can reproduce... well it will be just very illogical
but its WH40K, so who gives a shit about logic anyway
elfin yew
I hope we end up getting melee battlesuits so we can participate on more phases
Rhdbdb
Also cool pacific rim action
dusk hill
Natural selection is always technically a thing yeah but that's semantics tbh. If a kid is born brutally mutated and unable to survive then congrats that's technically natural selection
elfin yew
Or the Greater Good gets a psychic presence ala WAAGH(lul)
edgy cipher
I mean, rn the only thing we know is that cross breeding between different castes is illegal and Taus are selectively bred, especially in fire warrior caste
crisp forge
That would be amazing
dusk hill
civlilized societies have a general tendency to care for their sick and old, it kinda highkey nullifies the immediate influence of natural selection stuff
edgy cipher
It does have a presence
crisp forge
Yeah ratty even the imperium has retirement planets
edgy cipher
There is a representation of the Greater Good in the warp
manic flume
what is the use to make crossbreeding illegal if its not even biologically possible?
elfin yew
Yee
dusk hill
Yeah, I forget in which story it was mentioned but the tau'va does kinda exist in some manner now
elfin yew
Probably for relationships
manic flume
perhaps
dusk hill
probs cus of all the humans + other psychic races in the tau empire now
edgy cipher
Yeah but those things are controlled
elfin yew
Tau getting psyker auxillaries would be pog
dusk hill
auxillaries at all tbh
elfin yew
Yeppp
crisp forge
lolol
dusk hill
cmon give us actual gue'vesa, new kroot. the vespids are still resin you psychopaths
edgy cipher
I mean, tau + IG conversion sounds rad
dusk hill
yeah same. Battlesuits are cool and all but
elfin yew
For the Kreater Krood
crisp forge
Dark Crusade does more justice to the auxillaries than the damn tabletop lol
elfin yew
Kroot
dusk hill
There have been some really super cool gue'vesa conversions, I've been meaning to try it myself for a long time
like. cadian bodies, tau heads, tau weapons is how i'd do it
dusk hill
Bonus points if they're breachers, makes a lot of sense given humans are kinda better inclined for closer combat stuff
dusk hill
!! yes
manic flume
well i guess that all the legalism with crossbreeding restriction is just a good front cover for "do not fuck with other castes and the unterme... gue'vesas"
dusk hill
For me the tau are defo the most engaging faction. Like, the whole collectivist utopian vibe is way more interesting for me than anything else in 40k
admech come as a close second
dusk hill
yee. The mechanicus game is a super good easy look into how the mechanicus kinda operates, it's super interesting
with the veneration of knowledge and stuff
elfin yew
Music is greato
dusk hill
that too
elfin yew
And the Mechanicus aren't as xenophobe boner as hightier as the other human factions(tho they still are)
dusk hill
<<information added to [sum total of human knowledge]>>
crisp forge
eyy ❤️
elfin yew
It seems the Ad.Mech actually has some difference of belief within its ranks too
Which is Pog
crisp forge
Im pretty sure its only the priest? The others are like "shut the fuck old man"
dusk hill
Yeah, different tech priests have wildly differing views
edgy cipher
Each has their own eprsonnality or view
Don't forget Genetors and Magos Biologis exists
dusk hill
the big boi who's in command of the ship kinda compromises between the two
edgy cipher
Some even believe in the flesh
crisp forge
Even your chief Magos is like "yo im not gonna waste techpriest or skitarii lives"
"sir most Magoses dont do that"
"Im not most Magoses mate"
dusk hill
lowkey just ah yea incense. makes perfect sense. we'll use the incense to drive the necrons out pleasethispriestissuchadumbass
crisp forge
Eyy same
elfin yew
Since most Imp. Factions have a complete disregars for human life(or are portrayed as such)
crisp forge
Yeah exactly you two, it made me realise just like most factions admech groups vary wildly. In this case this group is really nice and friendly for the most part and not psychopathic zealots
crisp forge
DO THE DEATHS OF YOUR SOLDIERS MEAN SO LITTLE TO YOU, ARE YOU THAT MAAAD
crisp forge
DO THE DEATHS OF YOUR MEAN SO MUCH TO YOU ALIEN? ARE YOU THAT WEAK?
Which is a really "lol okay buddy" line
elfin yew
Okay Gue'la
edgy cipher
Kinda hard now that Primaris exist
plush swift
tbf, he prolly won't
dusk hill
Our Pulse Rifles will blot out the sun™️
who needs kroot when you can stack so many fire warriors that all hit like a truck
crisp forge
yeah dude ngl fire warriors are scary in DoW
just set up a firing line and they kill everything
dusk hill
they're scary on tabletop too, they just need markerlight support
dusk hill
p much all tau pulse weapons are strength 5 right?
they aren't super accurate but they murder everything with that strength, including marines, with even their basic infantry
elfin yew
Believe so yus
Tau weapons tend to be really strong, despite memes they arent that super accurate without MLs
But markerlights are where the accuracy comes
In TT atleast
Not that they have orkz shooting or anything, its just good
In terms of accuracy
crisp forge
I need to ask, are plasma guns that dangerous in-lore too? Asking since 40k weapon power fluctuates as to which faction must win on that occassion
elfin yew
Yee
plush swift
thats not bad tho
edgy cipher
Only worse is Orks
plush swift
right by mechanicus are cyborg killers and ig are trained soldiers so it lines up
they need to give tau an equivalent to guard vets tho
manic flume
what would happen should an ethereal die in combat while commanding from the front?
elfin yew
Depends
crisp forge
Just like DoW lol
elfin yew
Usually they just
Shatter
I believe there have been times where they just go onto a revenge flurry(?)
But ive only heard that offhand
Into*
manic flume
so, no epic suicidal ww1 style bayonet charges?
elfin yew
Nah thats IG stuff
crisp forge
IM SORRY WORLD AT WAR TOOK HOLD OF ME
manic flume
well, if an ethereal dies in combat, that is surely a great dishonour to the sept which ethereal was in command of
dusk hill
Yeah, if the Tau are stuck in a bad engagement they'll retreat. There's very little melee, suicidal charges or HOLD THE LINE'ing
elfin yew
It is
plush swift
tennoheika banzai is actually a really fitting battle cry for imperials
dusk hill
they're the common sense faction basically
elfin yew
But they are moreso overahelmed with grief than going to do a kill charge
manic flume
and as we know, for fire warriors, honour and military prowess is everything
dusk hill
Their battlesuits are built primarily to keep the pilot safe cus the pilot is more valuable than the battlesuit in the empire's eyes
elfin yew
Ethereals are spiritual leaders too. So when one dies, its like watching a mini jesus get detonated for them
crisp forge
Im taking this quote lol
dusk hill
yeah p much. Every Ethereal is the centre of a society spanning cult of personality
manic flume
kind of when an IRL military regiment loses their regimental colors
elfin yew
Much worse
Lemme think
Imagine if during the crusades
The pope was on the frontlines
And he got cut in half
crisp forge
Yeaaah thats a good example lmao
elfin yew
Its so bad that Aun'Va has been dead for awhile and the ethereal council is using a hologram to keep the populace from losing morale
Aun'Va being the ethereal supreme
edgy cipher
Then even sometimes kill them when theya re not good enough / a bit too trigger happy with discipline
manic flume
because imperial guard is mostly consisted of conscripts and press-ganged soldiers that have absolutely no interest in serving and fighting a war
while fire warriors live for the war
edgy cipher
False
elfin yew
Playing frag the commissar in the IG trsnches
edgy cipher
There are never been mroe false statement about IG
elfin yew
Ig are more expenced than fire warriors really
dusk hill
nah IG is a proffesional force, by in large. They're trained, good soldiers most of the time
edgy cipher
Because gangers and the like are penal legions my lad
crisp forge
Yeah you're talking about PDF
basically lads like us with minimal training and just having lasguns
edgy cipher
And conscripts are usually a last ditch effort when the ennemy has overwhelming force
dusk hill
obv it varies wildly by regiment but the incompetent cannon fodder in the imperial military is more planetary defense force territory
elfin yew
Fire warriors come from moreso a hunter culture I'd say really
manic flume
then why would they be glad that their military commander died in combat?
edgy cipher
I said it above
elfin yew
For example
dusk hill
cus military commanders are often sociopathic dickheads, same with commissars
edgy cipher
Because a good bhunch of them see the average soldier as disposable fodder
elfin yew
Their fighting techniques derive from fire tribe hunting techniques
edgy cipher
And cadian soldiers have been known to kill too trigger happy commissars
plush swift
That one valhallan guy
crisp forge
Cain?
edgy cipher
Tchekov ?
manic flume
alright, that makes sense
crisp forge
Oh god the soviet parody commissar
edgy cipher
The one with the "Another wave" rule ?
plush swift
I'm thinking of the one thats like
crisp forge
that guy is the fucking worst
plush swift
yesh
crisp forge
LOL REALLY i thought he was still alive
plush swift
doesn't he also fight at the frontline?
edgy cipher
No no he dead
plush swift
srslym
edgy cipher
Because his bolter is a relic you can choose for Valhallans
elfin yew
HERO OF THE IMPERIUM
edgy cipher
*bolt pistol
crisp forge
Yeah like anyone would want that lol
edgy cipher
It's really strong
And sadly, the guards do not like it because it has killed as much IG as ennemies
Then again, Valhallans are another breed of IG
Even more grimdark than the other legions
plush swift
this guy
I like him in spite of his retard tier human wave offensive meme thing bc he leads from the front
its funny to me he puts people in the meatgrinder because he throws himself into it as well
edgy cipher
However, keep in mind this guy hasnt been mentionned in any books for more than 12 years now
green cave
Saying that all IG is professional is wrong, in the same way that is saying that IG isn't professional... PDF also can be extremely professional or not
You have so many worlds that pretty much every type of PDF and IG can exist
edgy cipher
We never said ALL ig is professionnal, conscripts exist for a reason
edgy cipher
I have sad news to say
After researchign and discussing with my peers on another discord, we might think the new fungal aliens just be mroe addition to the lore and nothing new as a standalone faction since, after rewatching said stream, the person was talking about how they wanted to broaden the universe and not limit it to playable races
crisp forge
Yeah see what I mean?
GW really couldnt keep another new main faction up to date even if they were real, 40k already has problems with alien species to begin with as well since they're usually never much in the forefront.
crisp forge
Its sad honestly
I really wish 40k had the balance of AoS when it came to factions/models.
elfin yew
Accessibility and variety of AoS are very pog
Tho I do think KT is better than Warcry but that's because Warcry is kinda restrictive in what you can play
edgy cipher
So is Kill Team
elfin yew
Sorta but not as bad as Warcry
In terms of factions
I'm not sure about KT but not every m ajor faction is represented in Warcry
edgy cipher
It's because Warcry is real recent
But you can find on GW rules to play factions however
Like how my first experience with Warcry was a Gobbo clan
But my friend was specialized in ELITE goblins
Very powerful
mortal orchid
i smell politics here...or is it that im being too much into it i see politics everywhere?
nova hinge
COMMUNISM GOBO VS. TEEFTALISM ORK
nova hinge
https://www.deviantart.com/loone-wolf/art/Warhammer-40k-Overlord-Gunship-860362781
https://www.instagram.com/p/CHPByuHBh5D/
nova hinge
Look at all those BIG meltas at the front
sick moat
hoary ermine
void orchid
I should start painting again 😔
Covid shit really sapped my hobby motivation
rocky umbra
swift arch
Brother Titus, Second Company, Ultramarines (my first dread and 3 model ever)
I’m proud of this Sgt, Second Company 4th Squad, Ultramarines
I’m so glad I got into this hobby within the last 2 months, painting these things is a fun, new skill that I really enjoy
elfin yew
Lookin good 👌
swift arch
I’m really proud of the PipBoy Sgt. I used necron tech paint to make the screen semi-glow, and painted the tiny keys of his keyboard.
nova hinge
one of the good side of the AoS
https://www.reddit.com/r/Warhammer/comments/jr062c/tried_something_a_little_different_what_do_you/
I love skeletons
But Nagash and his pals has way too much!
void orchid
That's pretty sweet
nova hinge
A right amount of bones and flesh
dusk hill
what's on the menu
L E G S
dusk osprey
Chicken legs too, by the looks of it
queen plover
...
Put those to Khorne units, if ya can.
"Charge! I said, charge! What are you, chicken or men?!"
"Men, but they are both!"
"Blood for the baCHOK god!"
warm dust
That’s pretty good
mortal orchid
bro, that is beautiful
deep saddle
Hell yeah
plush swift
The GrimDarkest Dungeon
mortal orchid
can i request him to make my Iron Breaker Bardin with that Darkest Dungeon theme?
frosty hill
i need friends to play 40k with
meager meteor
mortal orchid
i need friends to paly Fo76 with :,v
i need friends to play 40k with
@frosty hill
plush swift
Nice Pics. But what does it say?
tiny swift
Nice Pics. But what does it say?
@plush swift for the most part nothing important )
Nice Pics. But what does it say?
@plush swift the comic book is called Macraga Honour
plush swift
Ah yes i have heared of that. Is it good?
edgy cipher
The drawings are good in my opinion
The scenario .... it depends
I'd say its serviceable
plush swift
@tiny swift Looks like Del otto arts
edgy cipher
It's actually Neil Roberts
tiny swift
It's actually Neil Roberts
@edgy cipher yes
nova hinge
The Negekharan big dude thing and skaven one is made by muhut
He makes a lot of lewds too
deep saddle
Ooo
nova hinge
And I will try to message to Comrade [DD Art Comm] terkmc#6194
mortal orchid
@nova hinge yea pls
can i request him to make my Iron Breaker Bardin with that Darkest Dungeon theme?
@mortal orchid tell him this
nova hinge
@mortal orchid Send friend request to him again, drengbarazi!
He wants to talk you!
'ight, if anyone wants to talk with Comrade [DD Art Comm] terkmc#6194, there's a official Darkest Dungeon server that he usually on.
https://discord.gg/darkestdungeon
nova hinge
I found the artist's DA account
https://www.deviantart.com/terkmc
misty pollen
should i print this girl?
edgy cipher
I'd say yes but that would mean I'd approve illegal stuff (which i kinda do)
nova hinge
Fuklaw
misty pollen
funny thing, i got banned from a facebook group for asking "what do you guys think about 3d printing" lol
you think GW gives afuck about printing, they dont
misty pollen
they make millions and MILLIONS of their license products alone
edgy cipher
I mean you do'nt understand
crisp forge
but this isnt reddit so we're not going to ostracize you
edgy cipher
They sold too few space marines so they had to create Primaris !
misty pollen
Emperor Bless 4chan for give me access to the great library
misty pollen
but this isnt reddit so we're not going to ostracize you
@crisp forge yeah, even on valrak own discord channel dont give a fuck about 3d printing models and (((GW)))
crisp forge
Eyyyy thats great
misty pollen
thing is i live in a country where GW dont allow their products so i got a 3d printer last week
good old photon resin printer
fuck gw
im gonna sell minis here
(in my city)
nova hinge
Anyway, the model seems good enough to print, worth a try
misty pollen
gonna post updates here if you guys are interested
edgy cipher
You being a woman doesn't stop you from appreciating curves
That's a thing we can all get behind
hoary ermine
^
misty pollen
That's a thing we can all get behind
@edgy cipher
amen brother
edgy cipher
Ghost in the shell ?
misty pollen
yes my friend
misty pollen
after all these girls the boys are coming in
misty pollen
yeah sorry
edgy cipher
Don't apologize to me lmao
I'm just trying to make you avoid a warning
I appreciated those pics
misty pollen
nothing happened actually
edgy cipher
Right
nova hinge
No nipples, so it's not NSFW
nova hinge
misty pollen
after maybe a squad of intercessors im planing to do this guys just bc it looks fucking awesome
nova hinge
My horny experience is not enough, I must train more!
misty pollen
guy*
nova hinge
A bolter + revolver? Yes
edgy cipher
It's the new bolters
misty pollen
after that this guy
edgy cipher
I did paint a Primaris Chaplain for a pal once
nova hinge
it's actually better than official GW models, to be honest
edgy cipher
Definitly
misty pollen
that look GOOD
hoary ermine
sons of t he phoenix are rumored, but not confirmed to be Emperors Children sucessors
misty pollen
sons of t he phoenix are rumored, but not confirmed to be Emperors Children sucessors
yeah boi
nova hinge
I sense Fulgrim
hoary ermine
i sense P E E N I S
nova hinge
are they trying to be "pretty"?
misty pollen
from the fires of war we rise
more like crusaders black templar ish acording to Gw fluff
but primaris only
i like the colors and also EC pre-heresy tactics so i pick this as my chapter
edgy cipher
They are a mobile chapter and do crusades like the black templars
misty pollen
the intercessors
edgy cipher
They are however far more accepting
Since they accept having a human militia of devotees following them around
They also like to act flashy during fights
They are 40k rockstars in a way
But rn their fleet is blocked in the warp
misty pollen
look at this thiccc ass boi
edgy cipher
Big canon
misty pollen
Since they accept having a human militia of devotees following them around
@edgy cipher
yeah, spreading the holy word of the emperor with the help of these girls too
edgy cipher
They do work alot with SoB yes
misty pollen
i dont know why i saved this one, perhaps for my wife
she did like the sister of battle look
void orchid
guys I think I see a mutant
misty pollen
perhaps after all these guys
crisp forge
Baby Yoda noooo
misty pollen
i gonna try to print this chapter barge
green cave
Sons of the phoenix? Oh great, another full worship chapter that spread the creed... Poor imperium
void orchid
Shouldn't primaris be extra anti-creed
green cave
I think yes, but who know for sure
misty pollen
yeah sorry lol
it seems i cannot find primaris vehicles STL from the great library at 4chan
green cave
After all all the original primaris recruits are from the great crusade so they should all follow the imperial truth
misty pollen
the thing is you cannot use the real names for the files so finding the one you looking for is a mess
this is from a friend, same printer as mine
absolute big boy
misty pollen
yeah boi
misty pollen
holy shit just found a discord for 3d prints all warhammer stuff
they have even a bigger library all sorted out
edgy cipher
That's a real nice ship yo
void orchid
@misty pollen can you dm me a link to the discord?
nova hinge
I once did, and nothing wrong happened so far
near jungle
Wip
misty pollen
nice
did you guys read the latest comic of papa smurf calgar?
2nd one i think
look at this boi
near jungle
Omega Knights in battle.
nova hinge
Las gun for Astartes?! Wonder how much strong it would be
I think it's VERY E C O N O M I C
edgy cipher
Budget space marines
nova hinge
They care about the Imperium's economy
And probably more time to zappin dakka!
than bolter
plush swift
I've occasionally wondered
about sm using using devestators with lascannons like mordians use dudes with lasguns
nova hinge
How much would be powerful, if there's a lasgun for an astarteses?
edgy cipher
It would suck
Space marines and Guardsmen have different weapons because they have different roles
nova hinge
I mean, LASGUN THAT MADE FOR ASTARTES; ASTARTES VERSION OF LAS WEAPON
edgy cipher
Ah, I mean, lascannons
nova hinge
That's for devas, I mean, like a bolter level of, not heavy weaponry
Like, Astartes version Las Pistol, Astrates version of Las Gun
Think about how much it would effective and economic
green cave
There is a reason as why the imp factions with advanced tech use solid projectile weapons for the most part
plush swift
it seems confirmed ballistic weapons have a morale effect on orks
and you can stuff bolt shells full of all kinds of weird shit
edgy cipher
I mean, the advanced version of lasgun are hotshot and they are still average at best
plush swift
for dealing with problems from daemons to 'nids
I would say hellguns are about as effective as the average bolter, but they don't seem as versatile
cause what gives a bolter a boost is the ability to use specialty ammo
edgy cipher
They are less effective AND yes are more problematic
Aka way more prone to malfunction and harder to carry ammo compared to bolters
plush swift
I'm pretty willing to bet
that while a hellgun has a more bulky manner of carrying ammo
green cave
I really hope that we can use the superior autogun in Darktide
plush swift
you can carry much more hellgun ammo in the space you could carry bolter ammo
green cave
It would also make more sense that you may run out of ammo
green cave
you can carry much more hellgun ammo in the space you could carry bolter ammo
That isn't exactly precise...
edgy cipher
And its prone to overheat very quickly
Meanwhile , you just need to carry 3 extra bolter magazines to have more ammo
edgy cipher
In the Tempestus Scion entry
Where they say that while those guns are effective, they are pretty caprisious to use
And since space marines are all about dropping it, killing the ennemy then going out, hellguns are a bad choice
green cave
Hellguns are also unfit to glorius melee when the enemy close in or you close in with the enemy... The bolter on the other hand is extremely sturdy
edgy cipher
Yeah the weapon is extremely fragile
green cave
Hellguns, like most las weapons, are quite fragile
edgy cipher
Space marines have tactical 30 cm blades anyway
green cave
Sometime you don't gave time to pull out the blade, you just have to club the enemy with whatever you have in hand
edgy cipher
Punching is enough for a space marine and doesn't compromise the weapon integrity
plush swift
I though las weapons were the opposite of fragile
green cave
It is all fancy when SM have blades or hammers, but it is a lot better when they have to use fist and bolters in melee
edgy cipher
That's why hellguns would be a bad choice on space marines
Especially when a space marine punch carries more "punch" than a hellgun shot
plush swift
the hotshot lasgun thingy doesn't mention ammo capacity in the codex I was lookin in
anyways, I was under the impression they stored way more than a hundred shots
edgy cipher
Even if they could, hotshots are known to lose accuracy, fire power and firing speed the mroe you use it
Which would be aggravating for a space marine that is all about explosive attacks, and would likely fire 40 shots in a row then don't shoot for 4 hours
nova hinge
Bloody tech-priests... why they NOT making those STURDY
edgy cipher
Because they don't care
Skitarris literally shoot guns that give them cancer
You really think they care about weapon reliability ?
edgy cipher
Wdym, Ripper guns are good
They are huge automatic shotguns
Literally Bolter sized AA-12s
nova hinge
I know, that's why I mentioned them
edgy cipher
With a mounted bayonet the size of a guardsman's thigh
nova hinge
Make hellgun and so on sturdy as theirs
edgy cipher
Don't forget hellguns have more range and are more compact
And more penetrating power aswell
nova hinge
When the just a las gun is sturdy, how the hell hot-shot and/or hellguns turned out not so sturdy?
Mechnicum, weak
edgy cipher
Simple, its more powerful
And does not use cased ammo
Its use a far more advanced and fragile powerpack technology compared to what lasguns use
nova hinge
advanced = fragile GW...
edgy cipher
When very compact yes
nova hinge
Anyway, I didn't liked that they changed storm troopers into tempestus or something. The old design has more... something
then make it BIGGA
plush swift
stormtroopers are literally about explosive attacks too tho
they're not like
long fighting test of endurance types
if anything they seem to be used a cheaper and lower level version of space marines, quick shock attacks
edgy cipher
But they are still less worth than space marines so they don't have as much of equipment even though they have access to plasma, meltas etc
Yeah
You're right on that aspect
plush swift
bolters also don't seem that much harder to procure than hellguns
edgy cipher
Boltguns are easier to produce but the ammo HAS to be produced
Unlike with powerpacks where you just gotta recharge it
nova hinge
Hellguns are would be more easy to make, but bolter and its ammos? hmmm
Especially the ammo part
that is the problem
nova hinge
It's like making a "small rocket that replaces the bullet and it still has a cartridge"
edgy cipher
Because bolters are easy to mass produce, and so are ammos
nova hinge
and it also has to be "explode after hit"
edgy cipher
But it means you got to dedicate whole factories and millions of people for that
Plus all the logistics about how to transport that much
From the lore, we know that Space Marines carry around 3+ mags for their main weapon
nova hinge
If Astra Militarum used a "ammo" instead of electricity container". Just imagine all the guards has to use a ammos.
Transport all those shit and so on
edgy cipher
That's why the guards use power pack technologies
It can fit into your pocket, recharges if you put it in your pants, and has multiple purposes
nova hinge
one a bit smaller than today's banana mag, can make the gun shoots like over... was 500 of lasers?
edgy cipher
It depends what kind of shotting mdoe you choose
nova hinge
yes
edgy cipher
Lasguns have 3 different modes
nova hinge
but in "average"
edgy cipher
I think its less
nova hinge
300?