#40k-minis-and-armies

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sage matrix
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@dusk osprey @winged token thank you so much! I’ve got tons more

dusk osprey
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MAXIMUM Heresy

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Your work is fantastic! How long have you been painting?

sage matrix
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Well I started when I was 8 so around 12 years now 😂

earnest nebula
glad mirage
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@sage matrix any Orks?

sage matrix
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@glad mirage not yet, I’m waiting for the ghazskull model to go into a separate box so I don’t have to buy the full set

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But I’ve got the indomitus box to start painting 🤣

dusk osprey
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Post your bladeguard ancients when they're done

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I'm deeply in love with those models

sage matrix
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Will do

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But idk what chapter to paint them

dusk osprey
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Dark angels would fit the aesthetic. Blood angels would be cool too

sage matrix
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I’m actually thinking about a home brew chapter

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I call em the Achaean Marines

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I’m part Greek and I love Ancient Greek history; so I’m getting hoplite helmets for the models

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Giving them a bronze spartan aesthetic

dusk osprey
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Dude, huge potential for bladeguard to look awesome with that aesthetic

proper harbor
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what do you plan on callign this chapter

gilded anchor
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holy moly, red and gold never looked so good

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except on the emperor ofc

sage matrix
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I’m planning on calling them the Achaean Marines

proper harbor
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what purpose are they for or is it another chapter jsut for war

sage matrix
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Well basing them off of the Spartans from Ancient Greece I’m planning on making them an elite fighting force used for holding the line

dusk osprey
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Dorn successors?

sage matrix
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Much like the Spartans did in the battle of Thermopylae against the Persians

proper harbor
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prolly incorporate heavy machien guns

sage matrix
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Yeah

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Massive shields and melee weapons aswell

warm dust
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machine guns would make sense cuz 40k but a spartan would much rather fight with his hands

sage matrix
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Yeah my point exactly

warm dust
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invent a new weapon

dusk osprey
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Power spears

sage matrix
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Probably going spears

warm dust
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plasma hilt

proper harbor
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make plasma sheilds like from half life alyx

warm dust
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can project a spear, a sword, or a spear gun tytpe thing from the same hilt

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all while holding their shield in the other hand

sage matrix
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But to be fair custodes are also great for models to base off of

warm dust
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boom gg

sage matrix
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Also similar color scheme

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Nice

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Man I’m really looking forward to darktide

warm dust
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same

proper harbor
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im hyped

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I was gonna buy a better pc but who needs that

sage matrix
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Yeah it’s a struggle

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Had to pause on my hobby addiction just to get the pc I have now

proper harbor
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this is cool though because it is a shooter which we havent really gotten before in this genre

sage matrix
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Right!?

proper harbor
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this is a great universe and im surprised there were no other shooter games

sage matrix
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Plus there are very few games the do 40k any justice

proper harbor
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who would want to play a card game when they can jsut actually play it

sage matrix
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Spacehulk deathwing tried to and it had amazing atmosphere, but gameplay fell through

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And from what I saw with darktide the pox walkers look extremely freaky

proper harbor
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yeah this is very reminiscent of gtfo

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which I hope isnt the case

sage matrix
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Love that game

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But even that fell through

proper harbor
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yea but I want something different

sage matrix
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Yeah

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If they can keep the same vein of combat from the verm games and add a bit more repeatable content and really push for customization that works for the universe, it would rock

warm dust
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well I wouldnt call it a shooter

proper harbor
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I would like a combination of doom and l4d

warm dust
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im gonna assume its like VT2 where you could just shoot the whole time if you wanted too

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depending on what you were using

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but also tha might just get you killed if a certain mobsspawn

proper harbor
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what comes to mind is alein swarm by vavle

sage matrix
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^

proper harbor
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I liked objective based wave survival

sage matrix
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One thing I don’t like about verm is the lack of customization

warm dust
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i can agreee

sage matrix
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Like yeah there are a few helmets but honestly nothing crazy or special

gilded anchor
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vermintide customization was just, five different hats and color palette swaps for armor

sage matrix
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Yeup

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I mailed bardin and I hated the slayer customization

proper harbor
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Im still confused which genre it is gonna be though so hopefully we get that soon

warm dust
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omg i HATED slayer shit and thats all i played

sage matrix
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Yeah, either way I’m excited for a new 40k FPS

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I hope to see dead or even brief glimpses of astartes throughout the game

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I’m glad we don’t play em since it makes things a bit more freaky

grizzled stump
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yeah it a nice take that doesn't get shown much in 40k games

proud gorge
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Astartes are just overdone at this point too so yeah

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also not being a space marine certainly keeps things a little more grounded

proper harbor
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remember space marine game

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very epic

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that game died very fast lol

sage matrix
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ye

fiery blade
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Space Marine is still really fun. I played some of it two or three days ago

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shame they never got to do their trilogy

tired wasp
dusk osprey
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Don't let 10 year olds paint anything

tired wasp
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see when i started i had heard of the concept of thinning your paints i just didn't understand the exact ratio of water to paint

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also i had very shaky hands

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@dusk osprey still better than grey plastic 👍

dusk osprey
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You're godamn right. I've considered drowning him in simple green several times, but I think it's best to keep a few bad models as a reminder of how far you've come.

tired wasp
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i keep my first mini so that i can show people that i didn't start good at painting

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a lot of people get intimidated by mini painting

dusk osprey
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Indeed. I see a lot of people not paint their armies because they're afraid they'll do a bad job.

mental parrot
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I thought i was a god when i applied that transfer. Took a good few years off but I’ve been pretty heavily into painting the last 3 years.

dusk osprey
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@gilded anchor material was resin as opposed to plastic, made it kinda annoying to work with

sacred socket
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Hella Dope!

ebon perch
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Picture isnt great though

sacred socket
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Still looks sick. Mad props

dusk osprey
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Indeed. This is literally the first actually painted riptide I've seen in months LOL

gilded anchor
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@dusk osprey I like it! Could definitely be worse

ebon perch
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I brought the riptide when apocalypse came out

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so this one only took like

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9 months? to paint

dusk osprey
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Only

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What a madlad you are. True dedication

tired wasp
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i have a chaos knight that's been collecting dust on my shelf half-painted for over a year

vagrant aurora
proper harbor
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Some imperial guard I painted recently, I’m still somewhat new to the hobby and I’m looking for suggestions

vagrant aurora
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Looking pretty good mate

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Part of me wants to paint up something in a Manga style.

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Really monochromatic, with a hint of colour.

sage matrix
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Today’s the day!!!!

hasty sorrel
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@proper harbor looks good, although i'd recommend a wash then a highlight on the metals

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would give it a bit more of a grimmy used look

proper harbor
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I also did Ulrik The Sayer to go with my space wolves company which I’m most proud of. I was surprised I pulled this off because I’ve only been doing Warhammer for a couple months

dusk osprey
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That there is one manly man man

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Good work, chief

proper harbor
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I was a bit sad with how he axe turned out, I went overkill with the highlighting

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I also didn’t have any black paint and used my brother’s furniture paint to do a base coat

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Turned out nice though

dusk osprey
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Chaplain weapons are called a "Crozius Arcanum" for some reason. Regardless, I think if you evened out the highlight it would look pretty sick.

proper harbor
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I’m have big sad because I don’t know anyone that plays Warhammer nearby so I’ve only played once with my dad. I think I just might enter a tournament at the gw store a couple miles away

dusk osprey
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I'll warn you: Tourney play isn't very fun

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There's usually casual leagues at most LGS's

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those are a lot better, imo

vagrant jasper
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Any D&D (forgotten realms) fans here? I just started reading some of the lore (the blood war between devils and demons) and everything about it fascinates me. It makes you wonder when a company will ever make a game or story about fantasy magic versus sci-fi technology. Personally, I think it would be cool if a collaboration between Games Workshop and Wizards of the Coast is created.

lapis tundra
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@proper harbor try tabletop simulator

untold jackal
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Sparks, Table Top Simulator is perfect for well

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Anything physical

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I was actually just about to try and find people for Warhammer Underworlds

proper harbor
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How would I import my armies

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Or do I just download premade assists

untold jackal
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You find mods that have the units you use.

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Honestly if they're not SUPER new or EXTREMLY old models

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They'll be on there

proper harbor
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Epic, I might have to try that out

untold jackal
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THe less sets you've mixed and match, the easier it'll be to find them all across the mods

proper harbor
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I bought the new indomintus set

untold jackal
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You can highlight the figures and right click save them to spawn them anywhere

proper harbor
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But imma prolly use space wolves

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I’ll look into this

untold jackal
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I'm sure you can find all the figures you want

proper harbor
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No I think I need more

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More

untold jackal
proper harbor
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I mus expando lando

untold jackal
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no but seriously you need to get TTS, it's so many good games

proper harbor
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Do you think dnd would go good with that?

untold jackal
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yeah

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you can have physical models for everything, use spawning tools for maps and stuff

proper harbor
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I’m currently trying to run dragon heist of water deep on roll20

untold jackal
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it even has a ruler

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mhm, ive only ever run dnd in the theatre of the mind

proper harbor
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It very hard

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Because if rona I can’t host at mine house

untold jackal
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For battles I just share screen paint

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Draw a rough map and measurements

proper harbor
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I was using roll20 for battles but it is very inconvenient

untold jackal
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yeah it was annoying when i used it

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There's a lot of dnd 5e tables that boast being the "ultimate table" on tts for it

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ill take alook at a few of them

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just a lot of minis

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basically, imagine tts is like you have a big walk in wardrobe with THOUSANDS of boxes and you can search them for what you want

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not everything is in there but there's a LOT

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also you can play gloomhaven so

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I'd reccomend watching some videos on like, what fancy stuff you can do with like hidden zones an spawning bags and stuff, can really make stuff a lot easier.

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This looks like everything for spacewolves, the mod says it's 8th edition

proper harbor
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Woah

untold jackal
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Wait no, this is Blood angels

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But stll

proper harbor
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So anyways, I opened my wallet

untold jackal
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Tabletopsim is so worth the money its insane

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It has almost 40,000 mods so far

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Oh no that IS space wolves

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The table was just made for blood angels

warm dust
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ive heard many many good things about tabletopsimulator

untold jackal
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I need more friends that are into learning board games and card games

warm dust
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There’s a few of us starting some tabletop campaigns for warhammer

glad mirage
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If I get my 1000 pts of Orks painted can I join y’all

untold jackal
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Mhm, I did blackstone fortress and it was great

glad mirage
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Yay my warboss will enjoy punching some faces

royal compass
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BOSS SMASHFACE IZZAT YOU?

warm dust
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We’re doing it online

glad mirage
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NO I’Z DURAAG ‘EADPUCHA!!!!!!!!! WARBOSS O DA SKULLSMASHA TRIBE

warm dust
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Made a little discord if you guys are interested

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Just pm me for invite

glad mirage
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Tabletop simulator right?

warm dust
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i think roll20

glad mirage
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Is it on steam or where is it

warm dust
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think itsjust browser based tbh

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idk im one of the noobs joining

untold jackal
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Using table top sim is a lot easier

obtuse sinew
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can attest, browser-based

untold jackal
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Also looks a lot nicer

warm dust
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but monies

obtuse sinew
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^

glad mirage
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So are we talking one of the Warhammer RPG‘s or we talkin eighth edition ninth addition table top

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I mean I’m down for both

obtuse sinew
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We're talking Dark Heresy / Only War

glad mirage
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Ooh dark heresy

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Only problem I have is my internet is hot garbage

obtuse sinew
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That is an unfortunate issue

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I mean, Roll20 does have an in-browser text chat thing

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but yeah, you'll probably have problems hearing people talk and whatnot

glad mirage
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Shit yeah I’m in a d&d discord and there are some issues but it doesn’t usually get so bad I can’t play

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That has happened twice I think in the last year or so

obtuse sinew
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Well, hell, sounds like you'll be alright

glad mirage
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sweet let find d20 and see if this will work for me

obtuse sinew
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yep

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though we don't have a game setup for it yet

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you could join the discord server, like Maryjane, aka @warm dust said

glad mirage
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So anyone who plays 8th edition Orks how good are nobz with cybork bodies and big choppas

sage matrix
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Don’t matta, Humie hed gonna pop anyway

sage matrix
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It begins

proper harbor
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Speed paint

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Post when done

sacred socket
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Necron-tage

woven verge
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I need to make room before I can paint :(

sage matrix
dusk osprey
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Holy shit the madlad actually did it

sage matrix
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😂

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The bronze took forever to match, but I like it

modern otter
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Can I just send you my tyranids and have you paint them for me lol

graceful wolf
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That's a weird looking space marine 😮

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Do the necron kits still include the green plastic sticks?

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or rods

modern otter
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It's Ferrus Manus lmfa

dusk osprey
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My man Beis painted so hard he not only covered his model holder in paint, half his hand is painted too

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The dude's gone into MAXIMUM OVERDRIVE

sage matrix
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Everything is CHROME

graceful wolf
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I got out of the hobby but I've been considering getting back in... uh... now that I am poorer than ever.

sage matrix
dusk osprey
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That seems... ill advised. How much is indomitus? 250$?

sage matrix
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Yes

dusk osprey
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In other words, that's a full months worth of car insurance. Drive or model... 🤔

graceful wolf
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JFC WAT? When I played the most expensive single model was like... $100. Set? Maybe $250

sage matrix
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It’s a pretty big box set

dusk osprey
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To be fair, indomitus does have a lot of really cool stuff

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and it comes with the new rule book

sage matrix
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Like huge

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Yeah

graceful wolf
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Ahh ok, I thought indomitus was a single model

dusk osprey
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LOL

sage matrix
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Thing is vury smexy

dusk osprey
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Nah, it's basically a full SM and 'crons army

graceful wolf
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ew....

dusk osprey
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Bladeguard ancients are my waifus

graceful wolf
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hot

dusk osprey
warm dust
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ehh

gilded anchor
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ooooh, shield

warm dust
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very purdy i agree

jade idol
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sick

gilded anchor
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I like your new name @warm dust

warm dust
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thank you i also enjoy your name

jade idol
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nice Blood Angels honor guard man

gilded anchor
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thank you, friend

dusk osprey
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nice Blood Angels honor guard man
@jade idol Not mine at all, I wish I was that good. That's a bladeguard veteran from the new box set, I'm just fawning over it.

sage matrix
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I will now be dreaming of nothing but chrome tonight

proud gorge
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Beis Chrome>Google Chrome

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confirmed

dusk osprey
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Beis is now Ferrus Manus, change my mind

sage matrix
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😂😂

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Might start painting a SM from the box set tomorrow

dusk osprey
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I'm just gunna buy the assault intercessors and the bladeguard when they get their own kits, I can't justify the full box

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But boy do I want it

jade idol
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wait a minute, is that what Vanguard Veterans are called now?

dusk osprey
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No, Bladeguard veterans are their own thing

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VanVets are firstborn and all get jumppacks, bladeguard vets are primaris

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And also have like 3 wounds and a million attacks

jade idol
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wot

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the hell is GW smoking

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an entire squad of people with 3 wounds each and all those attacks

dusk osprey
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The entire squad is 3 models.

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And its like 140 pts

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Lotta eggs in one basket

jade idol
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ah, just very expensive and not even worth investing in

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still like Death Company people better

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since it's an entire squad of men too angry to die

dusk osprey
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I think they're supposed to fit a bodyguard niche, like Guillimans backup dancers.

gilded anchor
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dancing guilliman model when

dusk osprey
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Dude I'd buy it

sage matrix
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I second that notion

proud gorge
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I'd sell a kidney for that

sage matrix
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Oh yeah

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Well I’d sell someone’s heart for it

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Beat that

proud gorge
sage matrix
real crow
fiery blade
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Worked on these tonight

sour dome
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👍

proud gorge
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noice

sage matrix
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That’s a weird looking necron

bronze jackal
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i think its a tyranid

royal compass
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obviously a Krieg commissar

grizzled stump
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Nah that's a cultist of T'zeentch he's got the blue magic cube and all

past crypt
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Could be a radical inquisitor about to turn traiotr :)) who knows what that blue chaos artifact has done to his mind

untold jackal
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cringe chrome vs based edge

fiery blade
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Finished this thicc boi at 4am

fiery blade
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Man, had to run to my lgs to grab something and they had an Indomitus box there

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was really tempted to pick it up

plush swift
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Anyone get the new 40k rules today?

sage matrix
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Yeah

fiery blade
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I did!

fiery blade
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So...apparently if you're only into tournament play you only need the chapter approved book (unless you don't know how to play and you're new)

digital veldt
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Im the one thats new

sage matrix
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The curse begins again

bronze jackal
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is that a clone trooper

dusk osprey
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That's gotta be trolling

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@sage matrix If your hand isn't pure gold, Ima be a lil' sad

mild ibex
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I like electrocuting people, guilty or innocent.

sage matrix
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So not even close to finishing but it’s a start

dusk osprey
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gloves

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W E A K

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In all seriousness though, lookin' good man!

latent patrol
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That looks like super professional XD

sage matrix
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Added some depth

bronze jackal
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looks really good

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i wish i was that accuarate at applying washes

sage matrix
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Last pick before I sleep

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Added a bit more brightness to the red/depth to shadow, and started with the parchment/cloak

latent patrol
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nice man i dont even know anything about this stuff but ur shit makes me want to try it XD

sage matrix
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Yeah it’s relaxing at least for me

dusk osprey
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Watch Duncan Rhodes on youtube. He and Beis have a pretty similar style

sage matrix
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Would recommend watching videos to understand the overall process of painting. Like what techniques you can use

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Also

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THIN THE PAINT

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That is your best friend when it cones to painting

dusk osprey
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(When he says thin, he means mix in a small amount of water then apply two coats.)

sage matrix
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Figuring out what’s good to base coat a model, and thinning it further to add transitions btw light and dark areas

latent patrol
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ive seen adam savage paint onw but it wasn't for 40k

sage matrix
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Noice

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Love him

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I used to use a air brush but I felt like it was cheating a bit

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Sorta took the fun out of it

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Anyone can spray a model and add highlights with and airbrush, but you always come back to the brush

sage matrix
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👌

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Also another model I have to finish 😅

fiery blade
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@sage matrix looks great!

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I don't think there is really any adaptability but my Kill Team starter comes in tomorrow so I'll have some Space Wolves and T'au to setup.

barren leaf
fiery blade
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Do you guys ever get pieces from Forge World? I've looked at some. I want to make a Gaunt's Ghosts squad for KT sooner than later but it looks like I'm going to have to mod stuff for it to be viable (looks wise).

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I saw there was some older GG models that were metal but they can get pricey depending on their state

barren leaf
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Why would you go to FW for that though? They only have Krieg models

fiery blade
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I haven't looked through there all the way, not really sure what is totally offered.

barren leaf
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FW only has Krieg. For Gaunt's Ghosts I'd suggest getting a Failcast Commi, some guardsmen, Katachans and Greenstuf.

fiery blade
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Someone suggested I grab these

barren leaf
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Combine guardsmen with Katachan bits, model the capes w. Greenstuff. On Commi just cut off the fur collar and remodel as a shawl

fiery blade
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actually, came across this too

barren leaf
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It's a good choice I guess. Brother Vinni has good quality resin, unles I just got lucky with it

river turtle
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Soooooo much talent in this channel, stunning

barren leaf
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I'll be a conceited dick and say thanks as if it was meant for me. Thanks, @river turtle!

latent patrol
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@river turtle why not have a figurine contest? with Darktide themed figurines?

river turtle
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It would be cool! I guess for it to be Darktide themed, we'd need to have revealed more about the cast of characters

proud gorge
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Servitor Waifu contest

barren leaf
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@proud gorge Hold my beer

proud gorge
barren leaf
latent patrol
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in the future of course XD and you can show off all the figurines in like a dev stream for the game or something close to that

proud gorge
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mighty fine work sir

barren leaf
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Why thank thee, sir

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Gonna have to get old models out of storage, the stuff I'm posting is years old

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Brush up the skills

proud gorge
barren leaf
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Pun not intended

proud gorge
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😄

barren leaf
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Damn you Discord! HD servitor waifu photo is too large!

proud gorge
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noice

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and yea discord is kinda rude when it comes to crunching images

river turtle
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3 more boosts and the limit is raised to 50mb!

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👀

latent patrol
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dropping hints i see XD

hasty sorrel
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i should start painting again

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been thinking of doing a new set of IG in the scheme of the IG regiment i run an Only War campaign for

barren leaf
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How do you run Only War with models? It's a pnp

hasty sorrel
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I run OW on roll 20, but i like to paint models of player characters to give to people

barren leaf
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Ah, I see

hasty sorrel
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since i got them to design a full regiment, including insignia and colour scheme

barren leaf
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Good immersion

hasty sorrel
barren leaf
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I did the servitor waifu model as a Heretek character for a Black Crusade campaign, actually

hasty sorrel
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fair enough

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its just kind of comfy, and i feel its a good reward for the team

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they have no survived... 6 months?

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only death was an ogryn so far

barren leaf
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Quite the accomplishment for Only War

hasty sorrel
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Its been against orks so they have taken full advantage of their ranged firepower

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chimera has an autocannon and they have a heavy bolter heavy gunner

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also helps their techpriest, whos been manning said auto cannon, basically doesnt miss

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fired off 24 shots in a session and missed 3

barren leaf
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Wish my Skitarii were this accurate

hasty sorrel
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idk how they do it, she only has 40 BS

barren leaf
hasty sorrel
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Has been fun running it, players have survived through wits and sticking together, lost of positioning and near misses

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pretty sure 3 of them have now burnt almost all their fate

barren leaf
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When I ran BC players would constantly try to kill each other

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Honestly, it was like guiding a pack of Skaven warlords through a maze

fiery blade
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that's how it feels being the DM for any ttrpg

hasty sorrel
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all my players are new to 40k so i've been lucky in that regard

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they dont know what to expect or act as

barren leaf
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I played with some knowledgeable players and gave them all different variants of the what the final goal is

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Okay, that's why they were acting like backstabbing rats

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I remember now

hasty sorrel
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lol

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Only war nobody has been a backstabbing rat yet

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the psyker did get an NPC squad possessed by demons tho

barren leaf
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lol

hasty sorrel
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so the commissar is considering shooting him

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i think i broke the commissar with it aswell lol, the possession was temporary bar 1 guy

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who failed a WP check and the possession became permanent, they would suffer blackouts and have no memory of what happened

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ended up killing another NPC in the night, a NPC under the commissars command

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his first loss in his squad and it wasnt even to the orks

barren leaf
#

grimdark

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In BC i gave them a goal - get into the deep part of the Eye, find something called the Oracle. SO the Heretek got too much corruption and tried to lead his pals into vats with various substances constantly and thinks the Oracle is the Age of Strife AI, Slaanesh Champion failed WT checks against a Sorcerer and got convinced the Oracle is Slaanesh himself calling to him personally, Forsaken made some shady deals with local pirates and the Psyker went insane

hasty sorrel
#

fantastic

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as should be the fate of all heretics

barren leaf
#

In the end the Champion wrecked everyone, failed a roll and became a Spawn

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It was hilarious

hasty sorrel
#

lol

warm dust
#

Hey guys

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I made my first ever action figure dude but I’m nervous to share

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UwU

void rivet
#

Is it possible you posted it on reddit ?

fiery blade
#

@warm dust that's adorable

warm dust
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It’s a meme that’s not mine lol @void rivet

void rivet
#

Ah ok

grizzled stump
#

Reminds me of the Eric Andre sketch lmao

sage matrix
#

My lord, It a primaris

lament nymph
#

So that's why they've got 2W

hasty sorrel
#

👀

#

cursed knowledge

grizzled stump
#

yo the halfling just killed my warhammer fantasy party

lusty crystal
#

what did he do?

hasty sorrel
#

: )

grizzled stump
#

He started a large fire in a mineshaft they are exploring

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I just read the suffocation rules

lusty crystal
#

and the player forgot that physics are a thing?

proud gorge
#

LOL

warm dust
#

That’s troll

void rivet
#

That why you don't let children with the lighter unless said child has a bigger beard than you

hasty sorrel
#

the best part is

proud gorge
#

I lost my D&D party once because our mage managed to critical fail a chain lightning in a tunnel

hasty sorrel
#

im in said campaign

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and ive just rejoined last session with a new character

grizzled stump
#

I mean he was fighting a fungus zombie almost died so he decided to start a large fire

hasty sorrel
#

so i'm probably going to die session 2

obtuse sinew
#

Rough

grizzled stump
#

🙂

proud gorge
grizzled stump
#

im not sad

hasty sorrel
#

i didnt see the halfling light the fire either

void rivet
#

Is it Dnd or warhammer fantasy roleplay

gilded anchor
#

oof

lusty crystal
#

reminds me of the Tyranny of dragons D&D campaign we played

hasty sorrel
#

warhammer fantasy

grizzled stump
#

sorry let me remind you he started 3 FIRES

lusty crystal
#

HE DID WHAT?

obtuse sinew
#

THREE?????

hasty sorrel
gilded anchor
#

this sounds like an amazing WF campaign, can I join?

warm dust
#

Damn, you do what you gotta do

grizzled stump
#

one in a room full of fungus

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one on the zombie that almost killed him

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and one on a pile of corpses

hasty sorrel
#

the room full of fungus is right next to the way up aswell

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so theres a fire bellow and a fire above

obtuse sinew
#

I mean... I guess it was a clever thought

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but not a smart action

grizzled stump
#

Honestly he's a great player

#

he just sometimes isn't the brightest

lusty crystal
#

well, that will change when he's on fire

hasty sorrel
#

i think the pyromancer will burn brighter

grizzled stump
#

oh he's had to burn fate since the first fire he set caused a small expolsion throwing him against the wall killing him on impact

obtuse sinew
#

WOW

warm dust
#

Damn insta death

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I’m gonna die

obtuse sinew
#

You'd think he'd have learned

grizzled stump
#

the crit system is amazing not gonna lie

warm dust
#

That sucks

obtuse sinew
#

But it's also pretty funny

proud gorge
#

LOL

hasty sorrel
#

its such a fun system

proud gorge
#

3 fires

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mad lad

obtuse sinew
#

Ol 3 Fires Tim

lusty crystal
#

the crit system from dark heresy 2nd edition is fun too

obtuse sinew
#

Oh?

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I haven't got there yet

#

Mind explaining it?

hasty sorrel
#

oh its so good

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Only war uses the same system

lusty crystal
#

yeah, dark heresy 2nd is only war with a inquisitorial reskin

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still fun, but slightly complex at times

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at least digitally

hasty sorrel
#

i had an ork lose an arm, a leg, part of his skull, get his stomach cauterized and then finally died to a shot in the back

obtuse sinew
#

By the emprah

lusty crystal
#

we had a gang leader who had a grenade in his pocket as a last ditch hurrah

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i hit him in the chest, critted high enough, and boom

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it took out our feral worlder, and half the gang

obtuse sinew
#

Damn

proud gorge
hasty sorrel
#

theres vehicle crits aswell

grizzled stump
#

the last time I was in a only war campaign I got crit in the arm by a grot so I threw a grenade back at him so hard the imact of the grenade killed him before it went off

hasty sorrel
#

so many ammo cookoffs

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ah ye, the session the ogryn got ran over by the chimera

lusty crystal
#

we managed to "stabilize" the feral worlder and then had him brought back to the nearest clinic where a doc kind of put him back together

obtuse sinew
#

Kind of???

lusty crystal
#

we then called in a favor from the local govenor (which is a hilarious high society game with mostly non faces)

hasty sorrel
#

healing in DH/OW is very uhh

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its effective

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but sometimes you need replacements

lusty crystal
#

he was held together with nothing but clamps

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to prevent him from bleeding out

obtuse sinew
#

CLAMPS?

lusty crystal
#

oh, and we cauterized a deep wound with a heated bayonet

obtuse sinew
#

Ouch

lusty crystal
#

yeah, you know the surgical type

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and 2 which came off a car battery

obtuse sinew
#

surgical type

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Maybe surgical to an ork

lusty crystal
#

no, the ones used in a proper surgical theater

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the tiny ones, for the larger veins. and 2 clamps found on jumper cables.

hasty sorrel
#

surgical clamps are a thing ye

obtuse sinew
#

Alrighty then

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Sure, I guess

warm dust
#

Damn sound like there’s a lot of ugly PCs out there lmao

lusty crystal
#

anyway, hauled him to the governor, called in favor and got him to a proper surgeon. afterwards, our cogboy got jealous because a feral offworlder was more techy bits then him

obtuse sinew
#

Of course

lusty crystal
#

and of course the high society game. with a party consisting of: A guardsman noble officer, a forge world tech adept, a feral offworlder (without said techy bits), a penal colony medicae and a local noble who wanted to play badass

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the only person with a decent amount of charm was the local noble

obtuse sinew
#

Oh boy

hasty sorrel
#

man 40k rpgs are just so fun

obtuse sinew
#

That sounds like it went great

hasty sorrel
#

so many characters u can do

lusty crystal
#

the officer was middling (because of a lucky roll and some dress code adjustments) and the rest had no fellowship/charm

obtuse sinew
#

Yeah, it seems a lot more variable than D&D or other ones that I've looked into

lusty crystal
#

combat starts out really clunky (at least for us, but we played digitally because of distances)

hasty sorrel
#

i'm not gonna lie

#

i think DnD 5e is bad

warm dust
#

Yeah there’s tons of shit to look at

lusty crystal
#

it's too simplyfied

hasty sorrel
#

its a good beginners setting, thats about it

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but if u do the 40k RPGs, shadowrun or pathfinder

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that kinda thing

#

so much more flex

lusty crystal
#

the problem with 5e is that it focuses on classes

grizzled stump
#

Ive already had this argument with others today

lusty crystal
#

if you decide to play something unique, you bone yourself

grizzled stump
#

5e is a good introduction to table tops

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but there are so many better systems

obtuse sinew
#

I agree, it is a good intro

grizzled stump
#

in my opinion

obtuse sinew
#

I think its simplicity has its own charm, but I do understand how that is detrimental when trying to be unique

lusty crystal
#

i've noticed that if you have a DM who decides: screw the rules as written, i'll make my own. you can get a lot farther with things, but it's still limited

hasty sorrel
#

no crafting

gilded anchor
#

pathfinder is one if the best when striving for diversity, though it's just complex enough to scare new people away

#

there's rules for everything

lusty crystal
#

i'm still salty they removed item properties in 5e like dark iron or mithril

hasty sorrel
#

i love elemental specialisation in games

#

pathfinder caters to that so much

obtuse sinew
#

Oh no, they're there. Just stupid simple and hella useless; for instance, there's a metal that gives you 2x damage to objects. It costs 10x as much as a normal weapon

gilded anchor
#

3.5e is a mess where becoming frankenstein makes you god tier

lusty crystal
#

druidzilla comes to mind

#

but, let me continue with the high society bit

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so there is 5 of us, only 2 who have a clue what's about to happen

warm dust
obtuse sinew
#

🍿

lusty crystal
#

the cogboy got stuck in a closet with surveillance gear (scared one of the maids who heard weird sounds, almost blowing our cover), the feral offworlder was put on show as a model as a "prime specimen" (we got lucky the hive world was somewhat decadent) and the medicae got dolled up as a waiter

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now, about an hour into the party/ball/roman orgy, we get a signal from the cogboy that there are unknown vox communications in the area. the governor gave us access to his channels so those were checked and filtered out.

#

so we get the medicae, and tell him to go check it out, it turned out to be some prime blackmail material down the line (scions of to rival houses having a nice "Private party" somewhere secluded)

#

when the officer sees a noble keep scratching his ear, like he was wearing a comm bead

obtuse sinew
#

Officer be like: "owo, what's this?"

lusty crystal
#

we manage to speak to him privately and he confesses to being a spy (from a totally unrelated noble house) when a scream echoes through the room (think like thrice the size of a large ballroom) when we see a lady from in a beautiful dress holding what looks like a detonator

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we are caught flat footed, and are not really packing any kind of heavy heat

#

when she starts a long winded speech about how her house was betrayed, yada yada yada, the feral worlder saunters up towards her, acting all "captivated" by her beauty

#

he grabs a glass of water from a nearby table and almost reverently offer it to her. she was caught absolutely of guard and even stopped her speech. so our DM gave the feral worlder a free action, which he could spend however he wanted

warm dust
lusty crystal
#

to which the player replied: i offer her the glass of water, right into her face. to which he yelled the words: beautiful lady, would you like some WATAAAAH

obtuse sinew
#

AHAHAHAAAAA

lusty crystal
#

and basically bruce lee rammed the glass of water into her face

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a few rolls later, and she lost the detonator in the surprise attack, was bleeding heavily from both her face and throat and a feral worlder was standing on top of her screaming bloody murder at full mast

obtuse sinew
#

Oh lord

lusty crystal
#

i can honestly say we never had a ride that wild again

obtuse sinew
#

"ride"

warm dust
lusty crystal
#

the crowd gave the guy a thunderous applause, because they thought it was part of the show

obtuse sinew
#

Wow

#

Nobles are fucking weird. wink

lusty crystal
#

yeah, the governor was pleased, but disappointed that we didn't do it "quietly"

#

so yeah, that's how we got the favor

#

oh, and i'm pretty sure the officer (me) had a roll in the hay with the governors daughter

warm dust
#

You don’t know

obtuse sinew
#

?

lusty crystal
#

it was left "ambiguous"

warm dust
obtuse sinew
#

Fade to black, or just, "something might've happened"?

lusty crystal
#

we were invited to stay there, in the guest quarters. my character woke up in an ostentatious bedroom, and something left in the pocket of my dress blues

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a little holo locket, and a weird (possibly) eldar stone

#

if i touch it, she can feel it too

obtuse sinew
#

Oh my

#

Well, that's one way to keep a contact

lusty crystal
#

yeah, it was awesome

obtuse sinew
#

Thanks for the story

lusty crystal
#

no problem

fiery blade
#

One more for the slab

lusty crystal
#

nice

fiery blade
#

Looks much better with the base blacked out

sage matrix
#

Update time

dusk osprey
#

Fuckin' A, the detail on that shield is nuts

#

I am so in love with bladeguard. I NEEEEEED IT

obtuse sinew
#

Clean, fantastic work

sage matrix
#

Props if you can read Greek

lusty crystal
#

Nice, you insult them at the same time (thank you AC: oddessey)

sage matrix
#

Bravo 👏

barren leaf
#

@sage matrix do you use Gee-Dubs paints only? Was wondering what you used for the shield surface

sage matrix
#

Yeah actually

#

I have some army painter but I mainly have been using GW; since my hobby shop is stocked with them

#

Plus paint consistency, pigment doesn’t separate from the oils as much

slate sky
#

I used oils for the first time this past weekend. I enjoy them quite a bit and I think Iam giong to try chrome nmm

vital parcel
#

Oil paints? I'm gonna try pin washes and weathering with oils as soon as I've got the base colours to my models. Whenever that happens...

deft gorge
#

ok anyways heres a weirdnob i use as a weyrdboy

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one of my recent ones

sage matrix
#

@deft gorge that’s looks really good

deft gorge
#

Tnx

sage matrix
#

Np

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If you add some textures to the base you sit will have a prime model

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Like dried earth with fluorescent green good seeping from the cracks

deft gorge
#

I recently bhought a basin kit

sage matrix
#

Noice!!!!

deft gorge
#

So yea will prob do

sage matrix
#

Awesome

#

How long you been painting?

deft gorge
#

Like started with hobby like almost a year ago

#

But i do have some big gab during some models

earnest nebula
#

i have a question do you think eldar support weapons are as big as mek gunz?

deft gorge
#

Maybe?

#

Cant really say

vital parcel
#

They are slightly smaller if I remember correctly.

barren leaf
tacit chasm
#

The inquisition is pleased with the state of your quarters

barren leaf
#

Где Космические Волки, @tiny swift ? Где пирование?

warm dust
#

one day ill be as cool as komissar

tiny swift
#

@barren leaf кончились(

barren leaf
#

Беда, отчаяние

tiny swift
#

@tacit chasm 🤣

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@barren leaf я больше по Имперской гвардии

#

@warm dust a marvel comic about calgar is coming out soon . I'll buy it too)

barren leaf
#

Да, вижу Каина. Уважаю

tiny swift
#

@barren leaf хех

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@barren leaf кстати портрет именно тоже каина)

barren leaf
#

Настоящий ценитель, хех

tiny swift
#

@barren leaf еще на другой полке нашел

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@barren leaf также атрибутика есть

#

@warm dust I buy everything from an online store .. if you translate rubles into dollars, then 1 book from 10$-20$ comics 15$ ..

warm dust
#

i respect the commitment

tiny swift
#

@warm dust ☺️

proud gorge
#

@barren leaf excellent work sir incanpraise

forest pier
#

Anyone here play DND?

proud gorge
#

sometimes but I usually don't set myself to Do Not Disturb

royal compass
#

haven't played any P&P for years

#

if not decades

vital parcel
#

Used to play GURPS with a GM that had made a kind of steampunkish lovecraftian warhammer world. Was fun, especially when my character had been "marked" by some diety without his knowledge and started amassing trinkets that in effect were artifacts that would allow a deamon to possess him.

royal compass
#

"steampunkish lovecraftian warhammer world" almost sounds like Grim Dawn

#

would make a great campaign setting

forest pier
#

I have never tried to change the setting that drastically befoee

#

Jesus

fiery blade
#

@forest pier I do, currently running a game.

forest pier
#

Nice, what kinda setting is it, and the important thing, are you having fun?

royal compass
#

I just went through my old pen and paper folder

#

the last campaign I ran was 15 years ago

fiery blade
#

yeah, I enjoy it. I wish I got to play more but no one else in my group really cares to run games so for the past 10 years (with this group) I've been running stuff. We finished Tomb of Annihilation (in TPK) last year and I've been doing a homebrew thing this year. We used to run Pathfinder before that but I got severely burned out on PF and its bloat.

#

running organized play at LGS and conventions for Pathfinder Society didn't help

royal compass
#

started in Luccini, where we needed to catch a boat to flee the city for various reasons

#

crossed the sea all the way to Lustria

#

and did some shit on the Vampire Coast

#

also, Dark Elfs were somehow involved in everything?

#

man, reading all of this again, that was a mess lol

fiery blade
#

yeah, same thing happened in my first homebrew game I ran.

#

delusions of grandeur + not really thinking about the fact that whatever you plan the players will do the opposite.

fiery blade
#

Taking my Killteam core manual to Fed-Ex store on the way home today

#

someone told me they will cheaply spiral bind stuff like that

glad mirage
#

Two more boxes of storm boyz and I’ll have enough for a 1000 pts list for my orkz assuming the points values don’t change too much in 9th as compared to 8th

warm dust
#

I approve of this

proven kestrel
#

I approve of this

kindred pawn
#

I approve of this

warm dust
#

||Edit your message to I approve of this right now||

vital parcel
#

Battlescribe's been updated with the new points.
In general I had to drop one squad and shuffle some wargear around for my tau lists. Might or might not translate to something similar for orks.

deft gorge
#

used bits of the black templar upgrade set

tiny swift
#

@glad mirage

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@glad mirage we have such things are very very expensive ... ( and I want to(

glad mirage
#

@tiny swift If you’re near St. Louis, I’m be happy to play a game of 40k with you.

#

As soon as I get the storm boyz and paint everything

tiny swift
#

@glad mirage 😩 I am in a completely different country , so I unsubscribed that these kits are very very expensive

glad mirage
#

Dammit that sucks

sage matrix
#

Just got this puppy today

copper sluice
#

Did you finance it?

warm dust
#

need new rims bro

sage matrix
#

Yeah, ended up getting with like 2% interest

#

Love the car

plush swift
#

Hey, btw, if this isn’t ok cuz reason, pls DM and let me know

#

I am aware of My oc’s hood and I need to say that I was simply inspired by this 40k fanart I found on the internet about the cult of redemption which I found cool, please understand that I don’t associate real life with 40k

hoary heron
#

I mean, with 40k, it's kinda hard to not step on some esthetic associated with racist assholes. They make it pretty clear there is no good guy in the futur, only shades of bad guys

plush swift
#

Oh yeah, I know, and I just want to say that I don’t approve of racism and those assholes who do I disapprove of

hoary heron
#

good

plush swift
#

Btw, my OC is actually canon

#

Cuz the people who made the Mechanicus game made it so after I made a terrible weeb joke

hoary heron
#

So it appear in Mechanicus ?

plush swift
#

No, it’s too late to add any assets, but they claimed it on their Twitter

#

See

hoary heron
#

xD

plush swift
#

I claim that Text to speech is also canon now

#

I don’t have any authority on it, but if I can become canon, so can tts

hoary heron
#

To be fair, the Mechanicus team is not Games Workshop, so they can't make something canon. What they put in their game had to be approved by GW because they are the one making things canon

plush swift
#

It’s close enough

junior crow
#

You need to take some of these

copper drum
#

A joke response on twitter is your claim to canon

#

And just like tts, I regard it with as little respect as I can muster

hoary heron
#

Dude @copper drum , I think anyone will agree it's not canon, but you don't have to be a dick about it

plush swift
#

Kek

copper drum
#

Cool drawings though

plush swift
#

Here’s what I see from that tweet, I see that there is a chance to get someone in the community to be canon in the universe of 40k. What I managed to do is meant to show that it is possible, but I encourage you to do better and to be bolder

bronze jackal
#

heres what i see

#

stop usiong twitter

#

its like drinking water from flint

#

stop poisoning yourself

#

this post was made by myspace gang

plush swift
#

Do people still use myspace?

#

I’m legitimately asking

bronze jackal
#

do people still use google plus?

plush swift
#

I don’t know, why are you asking me?

bronze jackal
#

nah its just an example

#

its just a question that answers itself

#

theres a term for that but i honestly dont feel like looking it up

#

anywhom

#

if your gonna make something canon

#

give the tyranids tits

plush swift
#

Hmmmm, I say let the community decide

bronze jackal
#

i decide

#

that we should give the tyranids tits

#

didnt happen

plush swift
#

Kek

bronze jackal
#

anyways

#

i riot if no tits

#

but i riot if woman in 40k

plush swift
#

I see

bronze jackal
#

you see my problem here

plush swift
#

It’s fine my dude

#

Anyone can enjoy 40k if they want to

bronze jackal
#

nah i meant if there is a woman in 40k universe

#

i riot

plush swift
#

But there are

bronze jackal
#

i riot now

plush swift
#

Ok

#

But to finish what I was about to say, even what you manage to achieve is small, that’s ok, it still progression none the less

warm dust
#

how wholesome

vital parcel
#

Todays electronics lesson: Black wire go to neutral. Red goes to live.
Spent two days figuring out why my 3d printer had problem feeding filament. Turned out I had wired the hotend fan in reverse...

dusk flame
#

While playing Pathfinder last night our level 7 team got into a miniboss fight with some cacodaemons, two vrocks, and a templated Vulnadaemon.

#

After killing the cacodaemons and one of the vrocks, the Vulnadaemon decided to cast summon.

#

They apparently rolled a perfect 100; they called their boss for support. A Balor.

#

It would have been a TPK, except the Balor rolled multiple critical failures.

#

After teleporting to the middle of our group while we fled, our Inquisitor who had been lagging behind us decided to taunt it and run back into the the sealed off area we were running from to buy us time to escape.

#

The Balor fell for the taunt and attempted a flying charge, which let us get AoOs on it.

#

ONE hit it, prompting a flight check. Which it fumbled.

#

Then our Muscle Alchemist pinned it and it failed its check to escape the next round. Since it had spent all its spells and abilities on the NPCs, it was Helpless.

#

Coup-de-gras with a souleating weapon. Failed save vs death.

#

Balor is permakilled.

#

The only fudging by the DM was saying that since it was killed by a souleating weapon its death throes effect doesn't trigger.

#

Which... Ok, yeah, even if we made the DC33 save for half damage it'd still be a TPK

#

And it wasn't even supposed to be there.

vital parcel
#

I don't follow completely, but in effect your party got into a fight that you logically should be screwed in, but RNGesus made the NPCs fuck up royally?

dusk flame
#

Yes.

lusty crystal
#

RNGesus giveth, and RNGesus Taketh

dusk flame
#

Took the fuck from that Balor :V

lusty crystal
#

well, it might explain why i had such shit luck lately with dnd

#

all of the luck went to you guys

plush swift
sharp onyx
#

I took your luck @lusty crystal in my last dnd session my two lowest rolls were a 13+7 deception and a 16 general

lusty crystal
#

i could have used the luck

#

3 crit 1's in a row

dusk flame
#

I'd say that we had extreme amounts of bad luck just GETTING a Balor.

#

1% chance

mild ibex
#

seeing dnd talk in here so ima post a recommendation for people who use roll 20 or have custom campaigns for sights and places without set pieces you can grab

#

I use this all the time for DnD when I had the will to DM

#

nevermind, just looked at rules and thats technically advertisment

sage matrix
#

Bit delayed but just got a wet pallet

hoary heron
#

Looks pretty good

#

And by that I mean it's a thousand time better than the best I ever did

sage matrix
#

Thank you @hoary heron I appreciate that 😁

#

More to come tho

void rivet
#

I legit was wondering why your skin was grey/silvery

near isle
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I wish I could paint with gloves on. I sweat too much and so on.

bronze jackal
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i used to but my room gets really hot and i ended up getting heat rash inbetween my fingers

hushed pilot
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some of ya'lls fingers could use a lil nuln oil anyways

sage matrix
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I mainly wear gloves whenever I prime a model

void rivet
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Have you tried Talc ?

dusk osprey
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My brother gifted me a bladeguard captain yesterday- expect by best Beis imitation posts later today

sage matrix
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Haha

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Can’t wait

dusk flame
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I still want Skaven AdMech models.

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I don't care they'd never be legal to play.

tame igloo
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@sage matrix you bought a wet pallet or you made one?

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if you bought it, where from? mine is really ghetto and made from tupperware and im looking for something more purpose built

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or did you make it?

sage matrix
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I actually picked mine up from Michaels

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@tame igloo

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I would get one from there but buy parchment paper, the acrylic sheets they give are extremely thick

tame igloo
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ya i normally use parchment paper

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did your pallet come with a an air tight lid or is it just an open air one ?

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i like the tupperwares air tight lid because that pallet will stay wet for months

dusk osprey
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Gunna paint the judiciar first I think, looks a bit less daunting

sage matrix
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Awesome!

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Just make sure you clean off those mold lines!!!!

tame igloo
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sucks that all the LGSs are closed due to the virus. havent gotten to play a real game in forever

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although ive been playing with friends on table top simulator and its awesome

near isle
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The simulators are pretty cool but something is always missing in them. I prefer real life games... says the person who hasn't played a game in over 10 years now

hoary heron
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Those looks really cool Frasier

plush swift
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Seeing Ogryn minis is always a welcome sight!

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If only there were chaos squat minis

void rivet
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Only if they have the tall hat

alpine jay
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Hmmm maybe I can use bullgryns as iron guts for my army.

void rivet
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Some people were using Leadbelcher for their Ogryn with special Rippergun

fiery blade
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Apparently my LGS and my former LGS have teamed up for a new 40K league recently and its gotten pretty popular, so much so they are thinking about capping attendance now

dusk osprey
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Took me the better part of forever, but the Judiciar is basically done. Just gotta base him and decide on edge highlights

cyan wharf
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My brother has done a rather good paintjob on his Reaver Titan

bronze jackal
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god i wish i could paint without shaking

dusk osprey
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Dude I shake like an Parkinson's patient on cocaine. It's all about setting your wrist in a way that allows you some control of the brush.

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Trying to freehand stuff without proper support for your arms is awful

bronze jackal
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i mean i do ok

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but i just cant edge highlight for shit

plush swift
dusk osprey
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I'm pretty new to edge highlights too. My best advice for it is 'less is more'. You don't wanna go too overboard with it.

hoary heron
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That's one serious fuck you sword he got there

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People gonna get real dead

dusk osprey
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It's a crazy good melee weapon

royal compass
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the sword might look a bit too... clean?

grizzled stump
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-3 ap
That's crazy good

hoary heron
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I'm so out of touch with the current system xD

grizzled stump
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Plus the 4+ invulnerable save for melee attacks

hoary heron
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Also it's probably an energetic sword, blood might vaporise at contact with the blade, which would be why it looks pristine

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Or maybe he just have a servitor follow him and clean up the blade after each fight

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I wish I had a few close friends still playing, I'd happily go back into the hobby

royal compass
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can we all agree that this guy shits all over the Chaos Master of Executions?

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like any Imperial model shits all over their Chaos equivalent?

hoary heron
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I don't know the current models, but Chaos used to have some super neat looking stuff. Noise marine, Thousand sons, ect

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But I could never get into much of the chaos esthetic. Like the horns on the chaos marine helmet. They are space marine, what the fuck is that about? Is there some kind of space cow invasion I didn't heard about ?

dusk osprey
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It's the +3 str and d2 that makes it bonkers. ap3 and mortal wounds on 6's is just added bonus. Wounding almost every chaos daemon on 3's, primarchs and tanks on 4's, and doing damage 2 or 3 with every attack? I'm jittering at the very thought

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I'm playing him against CSM tomorrow, will report on results

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the sword might look a bit too... clean?
I typically use waystone green on my powerweapons because I'm deathwatch, but I didn't think it made sense for a Judiciar. Might add some bloodsplash or lightning effects if I can get my hands on my brothers paint.

hoary heron
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What are the centurion? I just saw their model and they just look like fat clunky terminator

dusk osprey
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It's a space marine inside a space marine. I wish I was joking.

vital parcel
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GW thought the dreadknight was such a good idea they made a smaller and fatter version of it

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I guess

hoary heron
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It's a space marine inside a space marine. I wish I was joking.
@dusk osprey The fuck ?

dusk osprey
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It's... a whole thing.

hoary heron
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Yeah as I said a fat clunky terminator

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but without the badass

dusk osprey
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I think they're adorable. Little waddling robo boys

hoary heron
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They are doing a lot of change and new and shit in 40k

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I'm kinda surprise at why you would make so much change in a world caracterized by not ever changing. Litteraly nothing has changed in the last ten thousand years

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Especially if it's to add new mini like those those blocky boy

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It's so questionnable design wise

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I get keeping the hobby fresh and developping some army and adding some unit you know

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I mean, like the Primaris. It make 0 sense. Improved space marine? They are already walking gods. There's stories about a squad of them holding up an army of thousands. The only weakness of space marine is their scarcity
But now somehow someone grew a batch of improved one out of his ass and they have been sitting playing craps for the last ten thousand year waiting for someone to give an order ?

dusk osprey
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You wanna know why? Because it's really very simple.

New shit makes money.

hoary heron
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You could just make a mark 7 or whatever number we're at armor

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you don't need a stupid storyline who just make no sense in setting

dusk osprey
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New lore books? People buy 'em. New space marines? People buy em. New rules, characters, things to see and do? People eat that shit up

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There's a reason GW is reporting record sales since 8th ed dropped.

hoary heron
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You can do all that without making as stupidely out of character for the universe as primaris

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Like a fucking legion lost in the warp during the horus heresy that suddenly come out of it with its share of lost technology

dusk osprey
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Saying "hey guys there's a new space marine armor sculpt" is a lot less enticing than saying "and a motherfucking SON OF THE EMPEROR SHOWED UP WITH A NEW LEGION OF SPACE MARINES AND WHOOPED ASS". One sells, one doesn't

hoary heron
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But you can have a son of the emperor come out of the warp with a lost legion and whoop ass without having boring mc gee be brought back by fucking xeno technology and then somehow shit a whole legion of super soldier better than even the emperor could make them ?

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like

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WHAT

dusk osprey
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Well A: It took Cawl 10,000 years to get even marginal improvements over Big E's designs, and he did it using Big E's personal notebook.

and B: That kind of thing wouldn't sell. GW doesn't give a flying shit about consistency, what makes sense and what doesn't make sense. They care about making a fuckload of money.

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They're a company, that's what they do.

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And it's hard to argue with the results. The new stuff has made them an unfathomable horde of money.

hoary heron
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If there were fucking sweet model and new unit type coming with that new legion that shit would sell all the same

dusk osprey
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Nope. People want characters and story behind their models. They want to see things move forward. Like it or not, Guilliman and his motely cru have been the driving factors behind GW's recent success.

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Do you remember how much people complained about the plot not moving anywhere during 6th and 7th edition? Cuz it was bad

hoary heron
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I stopped before 6th

dusk osprey
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People were so sick of M41.999 it was potable

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I seriously recommend you read dark imperium. I can find you the PDF's online if you want.

hoary heron
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I hate reading pdf

dusk osprey
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I think you'll find yourself growing on the characters and plotline. Guy Haley does a great job

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Unfortunately plague war isn't in stores right now, but the first one aughta run you about 15$

hoary heron
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I hate about every plotline I have heard of about that thing, I seriously doubt there's any way it would grow on me

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There's a hundred way it could have been made to fit withing the universe narrative and unspoken law

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Instead they took a big dump on it

royal compass
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who cares about plotlines in 40k

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in the end it all ammounts to "hurr durr Imperium plot armour" anyway

dusk osprey
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The Imperium loses, like all the time. A lot.

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'Member damocles gulf? 'Member Cadia? 'Member Ulanor?

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Ulanors not fair, actually. They couldn't have known

lament nymph
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RIP Sergeant Kell

dusk osprey
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big F dude

hoary heron
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I mean, that's litteraly the whole concept of the universe. Everything went to shit, the humanity is on it's last leg, they are loosing technology and terrain. It's just that the imperium it so big that is take a stupid long time to collapse

dusk osprey
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It's always been a part of fluff that the Imperium expands as quickly as it contract. With every world lost the horrors of Chaos, or the thirst of the tyranids, another is founded by an explorator fleet. That's been canon since almost rogue trader

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Speaking of rogue traders actually, they're instrumental in that process. Turns out owning a planet is a pretty neat gig

hoary heron
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Yeah but it's just fleeing forward. They can't keep what they have forever so they are just trying to find other place to colonise to keep it going

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but like, loosing cadia? That's not something you can replace

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They are loosing

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they are just loosing slowly

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because everything take forever in 40k

lament nymph
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Considering the Emperor's goals, they've already lost what's important

royal compass
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true, the Imperium keeps losing... too bad it doesn't reflect at all in the game

lament nymph
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Unless it's all a part of his Golden Path™️

royal compass
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if anything, they keep getting more and more stuff

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and better

dusk osprey
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My money is on Big E having some super Tzeentch tier 'just as planned' sitting in his bank

royal compass
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while Xenos and Chaos.... well at at least Necrons got new toys too

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too bad they're overcosted

dusk osprey
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Crunch wise chaos and xenos got shafted

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fluff wise, 1 million more space marines is neat, but it's a drop in a galaxy sized bucket

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If the IoM sent an equal share of space marines to every planet in their empire, every planet would have one space marine.

hoary heron
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yes

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that's the theory

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since forever

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but they are so powerful that it's enough to make a difference

dusk osprey
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One space marine can win one battle, but he cannot win a war.

royal compass
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I doubt a single Marine on a planet would make a difference

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he's not Marbo...

hoary heron
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one space marine on a planet might make a difference in a battle, but they aren't deployed by one

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they are deploy by at least an unit

dusk osprey
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Space marines are supposed to be the tip of the spear, the razor that allows the hammer of the emperor to act easily. They are not supposed to be spread out like too little butter on a galaxy sized sandwich

hoary heron
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and one unit of space marine can make a crazy ass difference

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Space marine are here to win the battles that cannot be lost

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for everything else, there's an app .... wait no, there's the imperial guard

dusk osprey
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IG gets really snubbed in crunch terms, but in fluff they are vastly more important than the space marines are.

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2 million space marines would lose to the unfathomable numbers of men, tanks, and artillery employed by the guard across the galaxy. It's a completely different scale.