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[gaunt gulch]

Had no idea this was Ivan's cafe from academy.

[plush sinew]

yeah he's a baller

[gaunt gulch]

I was wondering why I didn't see him over at academy in a while and this makes perfect sense LOL

[jaunty ice]

Oh man I gotta try

[peak field]

This stuff is like, extremely disappointing

In espresso

[jaunty ice]

You had one job

In general Perc is too roasty for me though a just finished a bag of a nice medium roast recommended by maxwheel.

[peak field]

Its weird

These beans are like the first beans I can describe as flavorless

Super acidic at a traditional ratio. Finally was able to balance it out with a lungo recipe and they are just trash

[jaunty ice]

I tend to prefer naturals for espresso, washed light roast for filter

This was the darkest roast I've purchased recently, I think it's tasty in a milk drink: https://panthercoffee.com/products/east-coast-panther-coffee-blend

looking at Perc's offerings right now, for more traditional espresso would try Legender https://perccoffee.com/products/brazil?variant=44056980554042

[peak field]

Yeah I was hoping to find that at Whole Foods but they were sold out. Probably a good sign

My next bag is probably going to be bulk crema bar or ravello

A nice reliable comfortable roast

[gaunt gulch]

Yeah I got to grab a medium bag to stash in the freezer. I was not prepared this holidays

[desert dawn]

I just use what I goof on that ends up medium 🫠

[desert dawn]

Wait. Ivan used to be at Academy? As like a barista?

[gaunt gulch]

A "guest beans" product seems like a genius way to use that up

[gaunt gulch]

I'm not sure if he is managing or not

[desert dawn]

I didn’t know he was there

[plush sinew]

He was there for a while behind bar, maybe as much as a "guest barista" as anything? not sure he was an employee, per se, especially given his socials never seemed like it

but he was the one, aside from Connan, who I would always love getting to talk to about whatever roaster they were featuring

[gaunt gulch]

Same. I'm not sure what his association is, but whenever I would go (usually I'm the afternoon) we would chat about whatever they had in and whatever cool beverages they were crafting

[desert dawn]

Got it. If I got a follow from Academy Coffee does that mean I have potential

[daring flare]

it means Connan likes you 🫂

academy is legit one of the only good multiroasters in GA . that and Postcard

[desert dawn]

I guess I should meet Connan

[daring flare]

great guy, super knowledgable abt coffee

[desert dawn]

Always great to meet more coffee people

[nova wadi]

Get back to gods country tomorrow

So stoked

Gonna fire up the roaster

Miss my drippers

[desert dawn]

Rob got a Fresh roast. So hopefully some more knowledge coming

[nova wadi]

No way

[desert dawn]

Yeah! I was on a call with him today and he said he got a fresh roast. I was confused for a moment and had to look it up. I only know them by the “SR540” “SR800” name

He said for now he’s just going to run it stock

[nova wadi]

Wow very interesting

Wonder why he’s interested in it

[peak field]

Hehehe

I overlooked the fact that delivery costs ruin the benefit of buying in bulk

Yall know a good place to get beans by the kilo around atl?

[desert dawn]

He’s had some people reach out asking for help so I guess he decided to get one

He’s looking to build learning communities around machines or machine types

[desert dawn]

Radio sells 2lb bags… I imagine they would sell you a 5 lb bag if you asked. All of this is from what I see in store not sure about online

[drowsy jacinth]

he actually runs auxiliary right now

i’d just go order a pour over and yap with him haha

[desert dawn]

Ya that’s my plan. I’m in Lawrenceville so it’s 45 mins away no traffic makes it hard

[drowsy jacinth]

lol tucker area ain’t much better either

i was asking him why there & why a cafe like that in that location and he was just like the opportunity came so i took it 😂

[drowsy jacinth]

it’s really bad if u run into traffic tho it’s really damn far

[desert dawn]

Agree, and weekdays I could make it happen but he closes at 2

So I’ll just have to plan it in advance

[drowsy jacinth]

yeah he do close early on weekdays

if u can leave at 10 or sth thats no traffic tho 😂

[desert dawn]

Agree

[woven stone]

This is quite nice. Very citrus and spice forward

[gaunt gulch]

That's so cool.

[gaunt gulch]

Hit me up. I'm dying to go (and I'm a PO in the morning kinda guy)

This about what about what y'all are paying for abaca filters? https://a.co/d/gKEWVjS

Not quite cost effective to buy from rogue ATM

[desert dawn]

I buy directly from cafec $11-12 +shipping. Sometimes they are not available and there was reports of fake ones on other sites

[nova wadi]

Yeah

[jaunty ice]

If it’s a Tuesday I might be able to make it too

[desert dawn]

But I thought you can drive in the mornings

[jaunty ice]

Morning preferred but tuesdays are more flexible

[nova wadi]

First thing I do when I get home is brew a Gabi with the new XBloom filters. Did yall change your grind size?

[jaunty ice]

My xblooms aren’t coming until the 19th though, planning to sue the same grind size I’m using for the Ratio 4

[cedar olive]

I went a few clicks more fine but nothing crazy

[desert dawn]

Sorry I was trying to say can’t drive in the mornings because of the ticket

[jaunty ice]

What time did the coffee beans let you sleep last night/this morning and how many did you eat?

[desert dawn]

I was roasting, eating/tasting beans, drink tasting throughout the day. That consumption would have been fine. But adding that late night session was troublesome. I think I slept at 3 something

I’m the equivalent of hungover

[jaunty ice]

It didn't get it until you revealed that freshly roasted beans are softer (never roasted or handled green before)

[desert dawn]

Yeah so right as the beans drop out of the roaster they are softer and mushy. In about a minute of cooling in the fan powered cooling tray they go hard.

I eat them when they are cool and hard. It can give you an idea of roast level flavor etc. But friend was saying to do it hot cause it gives an indicator of brewed taste… I’m still not certain causes it’s all kinda a blur now but I’ll keep trying

I had to wake up cup everything and report my findings to Rob. I was just want to go back to sleep or get an IV

There is a Florida coffee meet up 1/17 I keep thinking about going

[gaunt gulch]

Sorry meant to give y'all a first sneak peek at this but @jaunty ice tagged me in cat coffee sellers thread

[nova wadi]

Huh first brew with the xblooms went slower than with the kalitas. Weird

[jaunty ice]

sorry

[nova wadi]

Wot

[gaunt gulch]

Oh shit! ATL exclusive for about 10 seconds

[nova wadi]

Woaaahh what is this

[gaunt gulch]

It's shame and defeat at the moment lol

I've been wanting to see if I could make the orb an improved no-byoass brewer than using it with just the pump off

First trying to solve for more agitation but I have to dial in getting size

*grind

[gaunt gulch]

I did a brew at 600mu and it took about 12 minutes to drip through. It was pretty decent hi it but awful as it cooled😂

[desert dawn]

What was bad about it cooled curious

[sharp jasper]

What's funny is I'll be in Orlando on that date and I thought about going too

[cedar olive]

Speaking of - when is our next ATL coffee meet up?

[gaunt gulch]

Sounds like it might be Tuesday morning lol

[woven stone]

If I wasn’t setting up coffee carts that morning I’d be in

Aux is such a great spot. Can nerd out with Connan

[sharp jasper]

I think I can be down

I'm checking to see if my wife is cool with another hosting.

[nova wadi]

I missed something

My calendar for Tuesday morning is open though

[nova wadi]

Are we talking about auxiliary?

[desert dawn]

I am 50/50 on Tuesday. Davy from Now and Then is swinging by Atlanta and we were supposed to meet up. Depending on the time I may invite him

[desert dawn]

I think it’s worth it. For me I would probably have to get a hotel which complicates things

Really just complicates things with the kids

[sharp jasper]

Will you be trying to sell coffee?

[desert dawn]

Also any of you planning on going to world of coffee/SCA in April? It’s in San Diego

[desert dawn]

No just make friends/hang

[sharp jasper]

Full transparency, this would be a meet-up outside of the potential Tuesday/Auxiliary meet up.

[desert dawn]

I want to try to slowly attend ones around the country to make friends in coffee and visit other roasters

[sharp jasper]

It sucks because I'll be 15 minutes away from the meet up, but I'm tied up with other engagements. Not to mention the only gear I could really bring is PO or my DE1. And my trip is 6 days. I'd feel nervous leaving my DE1 in a hotel or my car.

[sharp jasper]

I want to, but other life events are getting in the way. I'm hoping next year

[desert dawn]

I kept me gear in the hotel and was ok but I was in the hotel a lot and refused house keeping just called for towels or whatever

[nova wadi]

Sounds like you could use a picopresso or a oxo rapid brewer

Much easier to travel with 👌

Those ikape ones look slick too

Looks like we’re getting another cafe in Roswell. With this one there’s going to be like 6 all in walking distance of each other

Only one doing PO 😭

[sharp jasper]

I'm getting close

I kinda hope Oxo comes out with a glass or newer version of their rapid brewer. The craft instant just isn't quite doing it for me.

[nova wadi]

I’d rather plastic for traveling personally. Less chance of breaking in transit

Glass would be cool for home though

Wonder if you’d have to preheat a metal / glass version

[sharp jasper]

If you aren't taking your glass brewer in a pelican case for all travel, can you really call yourself a craft coffee enthusiast?

But I get it. And I know Oxo is focused on food safe materials.

I might bite and get one eventually

[nova wadi]

I mostly fly when I travel so an extra suitcase is a no go for me. I try not to check if I can help it

[sharp jasper]

That makes sense. I'm mostly driving but a few trips a year flying.

[jaunty ice]

Hit up auxiliary

Salma Bermudez washed/ferment gesha from hydrangea. Brewer spent some time explaining the contraption which was fun.

He said someone from Tampa visited and that they also heard about auxiliary from discord 😂

[sharp jasper]

That looks like a glass V60. Do you know if they warmed it or anything?

I use a glass V60 at work and have access to the company Bunn coffee machine, which has a hot water spigot I use to flush my filter/warm up my brewer. Im a novice when it comes to PO from craft places (never ordered it, full transparency) so I'm curious to see how the professionals do it.

But preheating the V60 seems to make a more cohesive cup. Couldn't tell if thats my imagination or maybe real.

[jaunty ice]

Pre rinse warning only

[desert dawn]

How was the taste

Do they switch out the ball for a new one every brew

[jaunty ice]

He wasn’t too busy so I wasn’t there long enough to see it changed out. That being said bet so, the ball had frost on it when he started.

[jaunty ice]

It tasted really good. I think I don’t enjoy yeast fermented or funk as much anymore but there weren’t any washed options.

[woven stone]

Belux I guess?

[jaunty ice]

I’m happy to see Roswell doing so well. Wish I could take the train up there.

[nova wadi]

Right?

[gaunt gulch]

Was that the Thanksgiving guy?

[gaunt gulch]

Pre-kono, I used a switch mostly to just hold hot water for pre-heating

[gaunt gulch]

I missed the ball trend. What's it's supposed to do?

[sharp jasper]

It helps prevent aromatics from evaporating by cooling the brew almost immediately.

It doesn't cool the finished beverage a ton, but it is noticeable.

[jaunty ice]

Yeah he actually used a cooled carafe before transferring to my carafe for drinking to cool it further (wouldn’t have done this step if I was taking it to go and gave me the option)

[jaunty ice]

Must be

[desert dawn]

More and more are doing highly processed coffees because its different and enjoyable for a person who has never tasted anything but burnt black

[desert dawn]

Yep, I would say Glitch in Japan made it famous. @gaunt gulch you can add one to the orb-over now

[gaunt gulch]

Lol yall

[jaunty ice]

Yeah I figured that’s what he was aiming for. It was the same in Sacramento (Scorpio) too, no washed pourover.

[jaunty ice]

Impressed Waymo can navigate the Sufi’s kitchen parking lot

@desert dawn Proto lume gesha? I’m ready to pay

[desert dawn]

I’ve got a Peru Gesha from a local Atlanta importer. Also, Guat - El Socorro COE #3 Gesha

[jaunty ice]

Alright. Holding all further coffee purchases 🫡

[desert dawn]

So far I will probably not release the Gesha this month. I’ve been working on these Honduran coffees for this event at the end of the month. So depending on how much I have I may release some

[nova wadi]

I really want some of that honey process haha

Need to see what it’s like in good hands

[desert dawn]

This is the honey process

I am debating add pictures of beans to the website

[cedar olive]

That looks liiiiighghhhhhttt

[nova wadi]

https://tenor.com/view/its-beautiful-gif-holy-moly-wow-beautiful-dear-god-its-beautiful-beautiful-gif-26044895

[desert dawn]

I am using a light to take the photo. Maybe a little darker in real life?

[nova wadi]

For context, the Alma honey process was one of my favorites when I was enjoying a little more roast in my coffees (they’re like a medium). When Zo told me he was getting the honey process green I was so excited to see what these could be when lightly roasted

[desert dawn]

I think as a medium it’s still a delicious coffee. Coming into light it opens up more

Color reader is saying 70 whole bean agtron. 72 is considered UL, higher is lighter. However this is red honey process which makes the green already darker so I don’t know

Cultivar and processing method change the color

For example Gatugi was darker whole bean color. Like 65-66 wb agtron but SL34 is naturally darker looking.

I removed the white background. It’s hard to relay color in photos

Here this is next to a window using only the natural light

Also, I discovered. The Ode Gen 2 stock is not working for me

I’m going to run one last test with the Aiden let’s see

[jaunty ice]

So I think the ode gen 2 with the og2 burrs is not good

I used the burrs in my df64 for a bit and it became worse (more harsh) as it cooled

Which is something that others have commented on in reviews

[desert dawn]

Dialing in is harder since the jumps are so big and I guess I like this coffee with higher clarity

[jaunty ice]

I bet Femobook A2 is better

[nova wadi]

I want one

[desert dawn]

I’m also doing big 1-1.5L batches which I never do… but first test on the EG1 and it’s immediately better. I think it’s just hard to get enough extraction with the Ode in my scenario without bringing papery and muddy flavors

Also me right now. Hot mess. Need to clean up after this last test

I stuck the switch in the Aiden to see what would happen

[jaunty ice]

I never tried MP or pietro like burrs but went through most 64mm options and didn’t care for any

Umv1 had no body at all

[desert dawn]

MP is like a scalpel. Razor separation of flavors. Very narrow dial in range. Almost 0 blendiness

Pietro Pro and 80mm ULF have high clarity but add a touch of blendiness.

Arguably more forgiving. But again narrow dial in range

ZP6 more blendiness

[jaunty ice]

I was that guy at Auxillary today. He was explaining so much of what he was doing I excitedly asked him what burr he’s using and he was like uhh it’s a “Mahlkönig” “flat burr”

[desert dawn]

Haha

Was it the owner or

I think the stock EK burrs are nice esp for filter

[jaunty ice]

I thought it’s the owner but not sure. Younger, beard, tall?

I should have asked for water

[desert dawn]

I believe to the gentleman on the left is the owner

lol the reel you sent is Moonwake

Gosh it was soo busy!

[desert dawn]

Wait was the almost 100ppm ??

Tidy and now waiting for my last test cup… fingers crossed 🤞

[jaunty ice]

That’s like 60/20 or so

Because it also measures bicarbonate and other molecules

[nova wadi]

Yo just a heads up, this link gives your full name. Insta likes to dox people for some reason

[desert dawn]

Wait. What kinda ppm are you all running

My ppm is like 50

Do i need to re think this

[nova wadi]

60/20 myself

[jaunty ice]

Oops

[desert dawn]

I must not know what I’m doing so I just clicked and watched

[nova wadi]

It gives me a pop up saying who shared it and asks me to follow

[desert dawn]

This is interesting. If a lot of you are running very different water the cups would be so different.

[nova wadi]

True

[desert dawn]

How are you making water

What does 1/3 TWW packet give you?

[nova wadi]

I have minerals but I bought lotus drops to travel with and I just stated using those because it’s much more convenient for me

[jaunty ice]

Can you test the ppm?

[nova wadi]

How does one do that again

[jaunty ice]

I make my “60/20ish with filtered tap

[jaunty ice]

Do you have the tds meter

[nova wadi]

Nope

[desert dawn]

Can you explain how you do it roughly

[jaunty ice]

I’ll try to calculate. Are you using destilled

[nova wadi]

Yep

[jaunty ice]

Tap with two drops of CaCL2 from lotus to 600mL of filtered tap ina glass soda stream

[desert dawn]

My Aiden test went sideways. Over extracted. Still tastes plenty good but flavors are not open.

[nova wadi]

I do distilled and the custom recipes calculator on the lotus site

[desert dawn]

Ok. Our taps could be different cause I am in Gwinnett. Roughly what ppm does that land you at

I think I still have some lotus drops

[nova wadi]

I stopped using tap after learning how much it fluctuates

[jaunty ice]

I’ll test the tds right now. Might be interesting since it’s raining. Guessing it will still be like 60

I bought a graduated cylinder to try to get more precision with my cheap aquarium testers

[desert dawn]

I need to dial in another batch but I’m about at that point that I don’t want to look at coffee

[jaunty ice]

Whoah it’s way different

That explains why my adjusted water was coming it at 106

[desert dawn]

Are you checking at same temperatures?

But yes tap can fluctuate

[jaunty ice]

That’s my lotus water adjustment

[jaunty ice]

Room temp. That’s not too different imho

Went from 96 to 101

Let’s check the KH

[desert dawn]

I’m going to have to revisit water.

[jaunty ice]

5 drops

Alright that's the exact same as it was in November at a lower TDS so at least my bicarbonate is the same

[cedar olive]

I think I’ve shared before but I’ve been using APAX and it’s simplified things from a water standpoint

[desert dawn]

I’m running full custom mix minerals not bc I have anything against the other stuff but for an event I have to be able to make a lot of gallons so using lotus, apax, tww can get expensive and annoying

50ppm vs 80ppm lets see

[jaunty ice]

going to test kh of my supposed 60/20

It's 67/20 now which fits with the TDS change

[desert dawn]

The 80 might be better

I believe this 80 is 58/27

[jaunty ice]

Makes sense to me.

[desert dawn]

Son of a b. the 80 is better today.

[jaunty ice]

You are close to tap there

I bet filtered tap is equal to your 80

[desert dawn]

My tap is 50 ppm

A little less actually

[jaunty ice]

Ah ok

[desert dawn]

Like 46-47

[jaunty ice]

I’ve been just adding 2 drops of co2 to filtered tap. The ranges that would give me should be solid.

Whether it’s a low or high tds day. Bicarbonate don’t seem to be impacted much.

[desert dawn]

Tap is 50 atm

I’m going to have check 80 now against recipes and other coffees

I hit my limit a long time ago though so no more today

The funny thing is i last did this test probably on Gatugi and liked 50ppm

[peak field]

I have not yet experimented with waters, I just use tap

Does it make that much of a difference?

[jaunty ice]

Atlanta filtered tap is pretty good, low tds and low bicarbonate (like 20-30)

I think @nova wadi found regional estimated water KH and GH somewhere

But yes the water makes a difference, try using mineral water (typically hard water/high TDS) it's hard to make a decent cup

[peak field]

I see

[jaunty ice]

my most painful experiences with water have been brewing on vacation.

[desert dawn]

Water can really transform a cup to good or bad. That’s why I did the test right away

In my case, one cup seemed roasty muted. The other cup was vibrant, floral almost perfumed, cleaner

[woven stone]

When I changed from tap to thirdwave water, it was totally a noticeable difference

Also, changing grinders from the fellow ode2 to the Zerno helped as well

[desert dawn]

What burrs do you have on the z1

[woven stone]

I have umv1 and lab sweet 3

Using umv1 the most

[peak field]

Interesting - I’ve just been using bottled Publix spring water lol

[desert dawn]

That may be what’s best for the coffee you like - you never know

[peak field]

My ravello arrived 4 days early.

My initial dial-in was 18:40 without changing grind size from my previous bean. Had a lot of body, but tasted boring. A mouthful of flavorless goop

I went two steps finer on the BBE grinder and got 18:30. And wow it’s good. Really good. Great in a cortado and is capable of punching through syrups. My mom enjoys it without syrup which is always a good sign

[peak field]

Yeh. Maybe I’ll try experimenting with better water down the line

Or I could just buy a brita lol

[woven stone]

Happy to donate a 3rd wave water light roast or espresso pack and you can get a distilled gallon and try it

[desert dawn]

If this is going in an espresso machine those have different water requirements. Generally water without calcium to avoid build up of scale

[jaunty ice]

First gabi

Ugh maybe shouldn’t have prerinsed the Xbloom

Oh it’s really good. I used @nova wadi recipe for 12.5g

[cedar olive]

We love the Gabi in ATL

[nova wadi]

@cedar olive is who told me the recipe

[vocal mesa]

I use either the H&S Gabi Standard (10g) or H&S Gabi Gentle (12g) recipe with that exact decaf or the S&W decaf all the time.

[nova wadi]

Which is an upscale of the H&S one I believe

https://youtu.be/UcHf9hvEwlM?si=aBgYAaYlN9UWt9IM

He has another one for Nattys

[vocal mesa]

Made a couple Gabi cups with H&S Buncho and xbloom filters today. Took everything I had not to gulp it down immediately. So tasty. SWEET.

[vocal mesa]

He basically says to use it for any non UL coffee too haha

"All of the coffee behind me on the shelf"

*sees Hydrangea, Sey, Aviary

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b6-mImE2MOE&t=11s

[nova wadi]

Oh interesting. I’ve actually never done the gentle

[vocal mesa]

Basically a lower EY recipe.

[jaunty ice]

I need to get better at pourover with naturals, will give it a shot at some point (tomorrow?)

I wonder if it's better for decaf

[desert dawn]

https://tenor.com/view/cant-see-hiding-lucille-ball-i-love-lucy-hide-behind-hand-gif-15752400

[jaunty ice]

Seems like the same that you described?

I coarsened up. Can’t use direct comparison because why would I have the same beans twice in a row?

[nova wadi]

Oh really? I’ve never actually watched the gentle video so that’s funny

Or maybe I’m confused

[vocal mesa]

Gabi Gentle:

The recipe we use here at H&S for coffee that's a bit darker roasted, more soluble, or that we simply want to enjoy and not think so much about.

TLDW recipe:
12g dose, 200g water (1-16.7 ratio)
"coarser" 600-900 micron particle size peak
60/20 water at 197F
30g bloom for 1min
170g on top of Gabi to finish
~3m30s total brew time

[nova wadi]

Yeah for 12.5 I just do 50g bloom for 1 min. At 40s I put on the top and then 150g yeet

Gabi the goat

[cedar olive]

I usually do 1:18 ratio for the Gabi standard

So ends up being 225 ish in total

[sharp jasper]

Dang yall have me wanting to try TWW packets for my PO at work now.

I'm trying to avoid buying mineral drops due to price and I'm afraid I'll revert back to TWW.

I have a distiller at home and the office has a RO machine that has a mineral adder post filter. Now I'm wondering if thats impacting my coffee significantly...

The coffee rabbit hole has no bottom!

[nova wadi]

Ahh I’ve been doing 1:16

My b, thought we were doing the same thing

[vocal mesa]

Yeah Standard is 1:18 and Gentle is 1:16.7

[cedar olive]

Would be curious to hear your thoughts on 1:18 ratio @nova wadi

[nova wadi]

We’ll check it out in the morning

[desert dawn]

Roadie

[nova wadi]

Can’t decide if I want PO decaf or soup decaf

[desert dawn]

I had to go to Azara so I had regular

[jaunty ice]

Gabi good

[desert dawn]

Why

[jaunty ice]

What’s wrong are you trying not to get one?

[jaunty ice]

For someone like me who hasn’t been making good filter cups for very long Gabi is really helpful. It takes me mostly out of the equation and provides an excellent baseline for comparison.

Gabi did a pretty good job with this. I think I would have liked this more back when I was using zp6 instead of A4z. Really hard for me to enjoy naturals on filter now.

Cooled it’s tasting much better

I kind of want to try this

[desert dawn]

Yes, trying not to.

[jaunty ice]

Gabi outperformed the Ratio 4. I think it has temperature and bed depth working for it.

[gaunt gulch]

I love a 1:18 po. Curious how this would be

[cedar olive]

Did you try the Gabi gentle recipe from h&S for the natural??

[jaunty ice]

I was basically already gabi gentle so I mostly did the same recipe and didn’t bother coarsening.

Has three brews with an excellent test roast gesha which I think is a touch roastier than I prefer. Just did it over the ct62 and the black tea roasty notes are gone and it’s sweet and juicy now. Overall I preferred the complexity with the flat bottom gabi. I think I’m going to try the ct62 with the natural next.

[cedar olive]

Gabi is a brain off good cup of coffee

And it travels well tbh

I plan to use it as a travel brewer

[desert dawn]

I’m excited to see the Gabi at a meet up

[cedar olive]

This is how I feel about the ORB @desert dawn

[desert dawn]

Oh I didn’t know you didn’t have an Orb

[nova wadi]

Almost forgot I have 3 boxes of aviary in the basement

[desert dawn]

Today I had someone try Gatugi again from a 10/30 roast. They had it at 30 days and were not totally happy - saying now it opened up beautifully. Looks like I might just be pushing too light and need to recommend really long waits or go brown 😭

[jaunty ice]

I should have waited

[desert dawn]

I messed up saying it’s ready

It opened up from when I was tasting it. I just didn’t realize it was going to open up way more

[cedar olive]

I’m waiting for Gititu this time

[cedar olive]

Need to plan a meet up so we can help you delete these 😂

[nova wadi]

Yeah I save the last of mine for a while out and it was fantastic. Message is in here somewhere

[desert dawn]

Well at least I achieved shelf stable coffee

[nova wadi]

Didn’t brew a single cup today. Can’t remember the last time I did that

[cedar olive]

You OK @nova wadi ?

[desert dawn]

Surprising. No issues like headache moody etc? Kids have you busy?

[plush sinew]

Maybe it's worse than all of those possibilities... Maybe he's found tea. RIP (Welcome to Nirvana)

[nova wadi]

I had a fever and slept most of the day

[sharp jasper]

I would say thats a pretty good tell on if you're sick.

If you avoid caffeine

[nova wadi]

My wife said that’s how she knew I was really sick lol

[jaunty ice]

Used a combo flu and covid home swab for the first time last month

Hope you feel better soon

[desert dawn]

That sucks. Viruses seem to be bad right now

Every year my hospital friends “this year it’s worse” when does that stop 🤷‍♂️

[gaunt gulch]

Speaking of communicable diseases, are we actually trying to meet up tomorrow at auxiliary?

[woven stone]

It opens Wednesday

Danny is doing a Flow popup there

[jaunty ice]

I haven’t planned to yet, sounded like @desert dawn was 50/50

[gaunt gulch]

Then if it's cool, let's shoot for a future Tuesday. I have a meeting that I was trying to plan around

[jaunty ice]

Sounds good 🫡

[nova wadi]

Perfect

[jaunty ice]

I started my current job when my 10yo was 6 months old and for the next year or two I was constantly sick it was a joke in the office. He and my daughter were sick 1-2x per month in daycare and I would catch about a third to half of her illnesses,

[nova wadi]

Yeah that’s how I got hand foot mouth as an adult

There was a stretch when I was sick for what felt like 2-3 months lol

I just got back from Boston doing company wide meetings for a week and probably caught something traveling

It’s always either from the kids or from travel

[peak field]

Yeah kids are like portable virus catalysts

Awful

[nova wadi]

So I think I prefer 1:16 to 1:18

On the Gabi

But that’s just me

Then again everything is tasting kind of bad to me rn. Maybe due to sickness

[plush sinew]

This is my entire existence presently.

Somehow dodged getting sick with daycare starting back up, so I'm sure we're due a big bug imminently 😱

[desert dawn]

Would you all be open to going to Azara tomorrow?

@jaunty ice @gaunt gulch @mild tiger @nova wadi @sharp jasper also anyone else who may have mentioned being available tomorrow

[sharp jasper]

What time?

[desert dawn]

Morning- maybe 9 or 10? Basically avoid traffic and their rush

I may be able to host a cupping 🤞

[sharp jasper]

Wait, Azara? Or Auxiliary?

Where is Azara?

[desert dawn]

Azara, it’s on the belt line next to New realm brewery and the Illuminarium.

Auxiliary is closed tomorrow

If it does not work for the majority we could plan it another day

[gaunt gulch]

I booked an earlier vet appointment for my dog. So I'm pretty free after 9, but might have to leave around noon for a work event.

[desert dawn]

I would probably need to leave by 1130-1145 the latest to grab my son from school

So 10 would be fine. I asked to get permission to use the rooftop to host a cupping

[jaunty ice]

Maybe plan another Tuesday?

Auxillary Wed-sun it seems

[desert dawn]

Are you asking for another Tuesday for Azara? And then another week for wed- sun for Auxiliary?

I don’t mind tomorrow. The cupping will take about 30-45 mins or of course we just hang there no cupping

[jaunty ice]

Oh I missed that ctl7g is available. I could do 10am tomorrow at Ponce

[desert dawn]

Sweet! Let’s do 10am at Azara

550 Somerset Terrace NE, Atlanta, Georgia

Azara confirmed we are welcome. The rooftop is tbd

If you all want to bring a friend no problem

[jaunty ice]

I’m inviting my wife but she’ll probably say no, she just worked this past weekend

[jaunty ice]

Brewing on Gabi, too scared to try 1:18, worried at that level of clarity I’ll taste the notes of conceit

Drinkable 👍. Definitely not UL, will try as espresso later this week

[desert dawn]

This has nothing to do with Scott, but I don’t think everything has to be UL. This strong push for only UL or OTL causes a lot of people to drink hay, grass, and peanuts.

I am genuinely very impressed when I go somewhere like a convention or whatever that should have poorly brewed coffee and instead I get a smooth balanced cup

I say this as I drink my $100+/kg Gesha

Feels dumb. But it’s the truth

[jaunty ice]

I agree with you. I've been fortunate to learn through pain. Like trying to make a cap with jimmy beans just over a year ago or even for filter I prefer a bit roasty but delicious >> bread

[nova wadi]

Dang that’s like a 50 min drive for me 🫣

Not sure I can get away with that

Essentially taking off the whole morning

[jaunty ice]

Should I bring some beans to share tomorrow? Also wanted to give @desert dawn some of my yemen beans that I just can't get anything but hay out of them

[desert dawn]

Personal hotspot and work

[desert dawn]

You don’t have to

Wow - what was the roast date on them

[jaunty ice]

Like early November 😭

It’s interesting my brother seems to like these Beans, I know he grinds finer than I do for filter

[desert dawn]

Oh so long enough to have opened up. That’s worth cupping. Might not be anything there or just under roasted

[jaunty ice]

My suspicion is a roast issue

[desert dawn]

Yemen stuff isn’t cheap so that sucks

For starters for ME to test grind just a little to test. Dry aroma should be strong immediately after roasting no rest time.

The smell might change and open up but it doesn’t go from mild or little aroma to strong. Think of when your grinding coffee and before even grabbing it your nose fills up with aroma

[sharp jasper]

I'm down! I'll have to step aside for a meeting at 11am, but i can do it from my car

[cedar olive]

I may have missed it, but what time tomorrow? My company has an office at Ponce that I’m planning on working from tomorrow!

[nova wadi]

10

[cedar olive]

I may come by around 1030! But I’m planning on stopping by!

Ah shoot - just saw that I had a meeting put on my calendar at 1030 🤦🏼‍♂️

[desert dawn]

Would you be available at all?

[cedar olive]

If it were earlier or later, maybe? Have to be in meetings from 10-11:15 am

[nova wadi]

You in the corporate world too?

[cedar olive]

Indubitably

Today was first day back from Pat leave actually haha

[nova wadi]

So how does cupping work if I was sick a day ago lol

Should I sit that out?

Don’t want to get anyone sick

[sharp jasper]

SCA Covid cupping rules.

https://youtu.be/FLNR3mF-Vjk?si=t9v32otMxYBF33eB

Thats my vote.

Do i need to bring anything @desert dawn ?

I'm happy to pay my way too.

[cedar olive]

Would 9 or 930 be too early? Totally okay if so.

[jaunty ice]

Probably still contagious 🤷🏼‍♂️

[desert dawn]

We won’t drink from spoons. We would use spoons to pour into our own cup and taste so no saliva transfer

[desert dawn]

930 may be the earliest for @gaunt gulch

He has an appointment at 8

[gaunt gulch]

Y'all get started! I hear over when I'm done with pup

[desert dawn]

Is everyone else good with earlier?

A) 9 am
B) 930 am
C) 10 am

[jaunty ice]

I can rearrange around earlier

[desert dawn]

Should not need to bring anything. I will bring some Lume coffee and Azara will give us a couple of theirs to cup.

As far as pay I won’t make any drinks to be respectful of their business just cupping. You guys are welcome to buy anything from them.

[jaunty ice]

Should I bring a4z or would that not be useful.

[sharp jasper]

I think I can make 9am actually. So that could work

[desert dawn]

I was planning to hand grind cause its stairs to go up and taking the EG1 would be a pain. They offered we could borrow their EK43 and take it up but I dont want to be responsible

Ok, let’s shoot for 9am. I will let them know

Ok I checked and Azara prefers 945-10am arrival

They open at 9 so I get it

[nova wadi]

Think I should stay home?

[cedar olive]

Ah shoot - I probably won’t be able to make it then. Super bummed I can’t be there - I’ll be so close! My office is a 5 ish min walk on the beltlone

[desert dawn]

Suddenly you like you are coming down with something and need to call in sick 🤒

Kidding

[nova wadi]

I want to go but don’t want to make anyone uncomfortable. Totally get it with kids etc

[gaunt gulch]

Should we skip azara and head to the lab instead? https://youtu.be/TDkH3EbWTYc

[cedar olive]

I wish! Definitely want to come if you end up doing this again

[gaunt gulch]

Should you Uber eats from azara and get a crew of 8 'delivery people'

[cedar olive]

This is a good idea

[desert dawn]

Well… if we pray hard enough it could become a permanent thing 🤞🤞🤞

[jaunty ice]

They read my mind about brewing only quakers #1194136644475945032 message

[nova wadi]

Gonna bow out due to sickness

https://tenor.com/view/squidward-meme-looking-out-the-window-sad-missing-out-sad-squidward-gif-5401562831942688207

[sharp jasper]

This was pretty funny. 8.5/10 brewing entertainment.

[sharp jasper]

Thank you for not bringing your [risk of] cooties

[nova wadi]

I hope to one day make it to an event lol

[sharp jasper]

I still got some bourbon with your name on it.... JS

[gaunt gulch]

Ha I was just watching that earlier

[desert dawn]

I hope I never make this mistake would hate to hear that feedback

[plush sinew]

Like mike, that's mega close to me, but y'boy got a new title and has to go beat up the c-suite tomorrow, so best I can do is stopping by on the way just to say hi or grab a bev 😛

[desert dawn]

Sounds like congrats are in order!!!

[jaunty ice]

Azara is 550 Somerset Terrace NE, Atlanta, GA 30306 ?

Probably will be there closer to 10 just making sure

[desert dawn]

Yes

The parking is next to New Realm kinda looks like your going to two urban licks

[plush sinew]

Just leaving late to start my day (early AM production deploys are fun!), so don't think I can pop in, sorry folk! I'll wave as I fly by on freedom pkwy

https://tenor.com/view/forest-gump-hello-gif-24737226

[desert dawn]

Have a great day

The entrance is on the beltline in the front of the building

You can let the barista know you are headed upstairs and they will direct you

[cedar olive]

@desert dawn - what time will you be at Azara until?

[jaunty ice]

He’s still there at the moment

[sharp jasper]

Thank you for the experience @desert dawn !

[jaunty ice]

Thank you @desert dawn had a good time, got way more caffeinated than anticipated. Learned a lot. Hope you enjoyed the barley tea.

Interested in the filter paper Lance is using for filter: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3c4DZJroIv8

Cafec T90. I've always used Abaca

[desert dawn]

@jaunty ice @gaunt gulch @sharp jasper it was a pleasure hanging out! I enjoyed sharing and hope you guys had something tasty.

For those that could not make it I hope to meet you soon!!

Special shoutout goes to @jaunty ice for using his medical skills to heal us with Barley tea

Look at the big bro EG1, lil bro Fembook !!!

I sent my wife the photo and she thought I bought some mods for the ZP6

[gaunt gulch]

Haha

[woven stone]

Looks awesome! Hope to make the next one

[gaunt gulch]

Thanks everyone. Had a great time. Big thanks to @desert dawn and @jaunty ice for the tasty coffee, @sharp jasper for the gear library, and @nova wadi for not killing all of us with plague

[nova wadi]

Wow that looks really awesome

[desert dawn]

4 from me
-Lume Gatugi OTL
-Lume Layo Teraga Site 1 washed OTL
-Lume Alo washed
-Lume Jose Giraldo Gesha but 2 cups. One was 12/14 roast, one 12/24 roast to show how the coffee was opening up

@jaunty ice brought
-Minmax Lerida
-Minmax Aricha
-Hydrangea PB Los Capachos
-Hydrangea Carmen Gesha
-Hydrangea Sidra Finca La Indonesia
-Lady Schnauzer Yemen

Oh and Azara brought up a Colombian thermal shock from prevail

[nova wadi]

Damn when’s the next one? I got some aviary for us

Need to check the roast dates actually

[gaunt gulch]

I have some prints for you @nova wadi though I think there was one you asked for that I missed

[jaunty ice]

Hydrangea Carmen gesha and Hydrangea PB Los Capachos

[nova wadi]

December 18

[jaunty ice]

And Hydrangea Sidra Finca La Indonesia

There were 9 for cupping and then we added the Yemen, @desert dawn can you delete the barley roaster, I don't want to shade them, they post here

[desert dawn]

Ok

Does that edit work or remove completely

[jaunty ice]

Works

[desert dawn]

I am caffeine crashing

[gaunt gulch]

@sharp jasper care to guess at the dumbassery I just did

[woven stone]

Will have to bring Archers and Ubec next time I’m free

[jaunty ice]

upside down?

[desert dawn]

The bellows can go on top of the crema loop not the other way around

Also, you will accidentally turn it on come back and wonder where is your coffee… only to realize you never turned on the grinder

[gaunt gulch]

Ha I wish. I brought it in set it down on the counter, helped my kids with some barley-yujacha (no idea why I was thinking barley tea today), and then ground my coffee without ever putting the cremaloop on the grinder 🤦‍♂️

[desert dawn]

Oh I was positive you put it on the bellows which looks like it a has little bowl that would have caught all the coffee

[jaunty ice]

Crema loop there for emotional support

[desert dawn]

I am still hopeful barely tea will open up. It just may not be anytime soon

I swear on the first sip I was like Ooo there it is then I was like wait… where did it go

[gaunt gulch]

I have this anti popcorn mod inside my bellows. I'm guessing the crema loop sorta negates the need for it?

[gaunt gulch]

Goes on top?

[jaunty ice]

Crema loop until done then bellow?

[gaunt gulch]

That's what I was planning. This doesn't look like I'd want to do it like this

[jaunty ice]

will open myself up to some potential pain in March

[gaunt gulch]

Looking forward to trying it at every quarterly Meetup for 2026

[desert dawn]

If the anti popcorn is like the one on the niche I would try leaving it on. The niche popcorn-ed the beans pretty high up

[desert dawn]

I checked the website on the DF and other angled grinders bellows than crema

On other grinders it’s crema than bellow

[gaunt gulch]

Soooo I didn't buy this, but was invited to try this that a buddy was gifted by his boss who just came back from indonesia. I'm not sure how I should approach. You think you'd do a PO or cupping?

[nova wadi]

Looks dark

[gaunt gulch]

Yeah

[desert dawn]

At full turn open it jammed my niche

So assume very dense

The niche has a lot of Torque and runs slow so jamming on such a wide open settting is rare

[jaunty ice]

Not into that process 😂

[gaunt gulch]

I feel very conflicted on it

[desert dawn]

I mean you got it now try it. Maybe it’s tasty

[gaunt gulch]

I don't have an espresso machine! I guess I'll soup

[sharp jasper]

I'm curious what you think of it.

[gaunt gulch]

I'm legit curious if it'll be noticeable difference

[desert dawn]

It was different when I had it. Not bad actually but this was probably in 2023 so palate has changed maybe

[plush sinew]

-Lume Layo Teraga Site 1 washed OTL
-Lume Alo washed
-Minmax Lerida

Sonuvabitch I knew I was gonna regret it.
How'd y'all like the Aricha? I took the last 30g of mine into work and almost ruined it with my weirdly-calibrated hand grinder before banging out a stellar soup

[gaunt gulch]

Would slow feeding affect grind size?

Went a tad bit finer but I'm not going to lie. I kind of hope. I don't love this because the auto shut off combination with my df64 gen1 kind of sucked. Had to restart it like five times lol

[gaunt gulch]

Crap it's real nice

[jaunty ice]

Should decrease range of particle distribution. In my experience I have to grind finer to create the same pressure since there are less fines. Not that pressure is necessarily the goal.

[sharp jasper]

Yeah i had to go significantly finer on my DF to attain the same pressure.

[sharp jasper]

Did it bring more clarity??

It reduces the re-grinding of particles against each other is my understanding of it.

[woven stone]

Man, these flights to San diego are pricey for SCA

anyone already booked for that yet?

[jaunty ice]

My favorite thread for extreme slow feeding: #1326835420725514270 message

[desert dawn]

I thought Aricha was great, but I love Eths. I think it was a really good year for them.

It was some stiff competition for the favorite cups!! There were no mediocre cups on table

[sharp jasper]

For real. $500 for Delta or $210 on Frontier when I checked.

I have something already planned for Sunday, the 12th. So I think I will just try to hit New Orleans SCA/WOC next year for the full 3 days.

[woven stone]

Perhaps next year is better since it’ll be closer

[sharp jasper]

Yeah I would be tempted to drive, but New Orleans is not a city I think a car is that beneficial.

I mean it I guess it depends on how close to the event I would stay.

Or how bad parking costs are.

[plush sinew]

Delta has no value prop.

Abandon the Blue Bandit of the skies folks.

Three transatlantic business class tickets with british airways cost same/less than comfort+ seats on Delta.

They decided skymiles were a joke and their partner cards were conferring too much value to consumers, so I will happily see them burn

But I'm not biased or anything....

[sharp jasper]

I agree, I stopped being loyal. It is ultra frustrating how they command the ATL market for most direct flights.

But if I have a choice between Southwest and Delta for the same price, I still lean Delta.

[sharp jasper]

Although I do still churn their Amex Reserve. Economy/Comfort+/First Class companion certificate usually pays for itself on one flight.

[nova wadi]

Platinum medallion member 😬

Going to San Diego for work in March and then again in May

[vocal mesa]

I always transfer Chase/Venture X points to Flying Blue/Virgin Atlantic

[sharp jasper]

I wish Capital One or Chase would open a dang lounge here...

[vocal mesa]

Usually snag a transfer bonus, but did get two RT direct flights to Tokyo for 160k miles.

[sharp jasper]

I need to get better at looking out for these transfer bonuses.

[vocal mesa]

TPG or Frequent Miler post them monthly. Aero is a great site to use for travel.

[sharp jasper]

I watch the CSR subreddit. But yeah, I need to start watching others.

[gaunt gulch]

I was looking at his hand grinder before I found your listing!

[gaunt gulch]

Direct SW lax-atl was my jam back in the day.

[gaunt gulch]

Oooh my wife has started traveling a bit for work and looking to get a different card for travel. Might have to get some recs from y'all

[sharp jasper]

Chase Sapphire Reserve is my main spend card. They recently had a makeover that makes their benefits more like a coupon book to some, but I find the benefits to be awesome. I easily get the annual fee in value from things I already spend on.

[desert dawn]

I think your fav CC really depends on your spend. My setup:
Amex Gold - 4x grocery only card to earn Amex points
Amex Plat - travel only but I could live without it. my travel is not that heavy
Chase Sapphire Preferred - 3x dining only card to earn chase points.
Cap 1 Venture X - catch all 2x to earn Cap1 points

[sharp jasper]

@desert dawn is the Churning god! Dang!

Chase Sapphire Reserve - For booking most travel (8x points for Chase Travel purchases, 4x with some when booking direct), Costco (1x but my only Visa card), and the purchases at places where perks offer significant savings.
Amex Delta Reserve - Just for Delta purchases and using perks.
Citi Double Cash - 2% on everything, no annual fee (everything else).

[desert dawn]

Hey I think thats a solid setup too.

It really depends on the person what they should have

I think my next one will be bilt as they are offering points on mortgages and I think might transfer to American Airlines

[sharp jasper]

Wait! You can use it for mortgages????

I thought it was only for rent?

[desert dawn]

They were releasing it for Mortgages this year. I dont know if it has gone live yet

oh nm its live

damn but now you cannot transfer to AA

[sharp jasper]

I see it!! I might end up with that too...

[desert dawn]

Yeah, Im going to think on it.

I really want to dump the Platinum. 1K fees - yes I get it back but still not that useful for me

[jaunty ice]

I tried platinum a couple years ago but couldn’t really make it work and we never use the lounges

Have been using Amex bcp and the highest cb card I can find for many years now. Just had to make some adjustments this past summer because they finally needed my Priceline card

[nova wadi]

Do you not have to pay a card processing fee?

[sharp jasper]

Hey, I know its a bit off topic, but what do yall think of Prodigal? They had a huge drop today. I was curious what yall think of their offerings. (Ive ordered from them a few times. I liked their stuff. I'm debating on giving them another try.)

Like is everyone else like me in that you just sometimes buy coffee from whomever, no main brand you have an allegiance to?

(This is how I am mostly, and it seems to track from what @desert dawn learned about how light coffee consumers are not typically aligned with a brand)

[desert dawn]

I believe there are some but have not looked at it in detail since mortgages were not included. The general idea I think used to be they mail out a check on your behalf and charge your CC that amount

[jaunty ice]

A touch more developed than Bana UL. I am trying to move closer to light and away from ultralight for espresso so I decided to try prodigal again after a year of avoiding. Boulder blend was hyped by a user and I bought a couple. First gabi was decent, will make spro with it tomorrow. Also decided to try the milk blend again- a bit too dark for me but tasted okay

I'm hoping boulder blend can give me something that's consistently decent.

[sharp jasper]

Thanks for the data! I think I'll probably give them a shot soon.

[nova wadi]

People say Prodigal is roasty on bana but that has never been my experience

I really enjoy everything I’ve gotten from them

[jaunty ice]

add on a bag of boulder blend!

[desert dawn]

I wonder if they changed to the Roest P3000 and that’s made stuff lighter for them? They were on an IMF which people say it has too much airflow or something that causes problems with the roast tasting more brown?

[sharp jasper]

I will! I can't recall if I had their coffee on my Flair 58 or after I got my DE1....

Would yall have any interest in an espresso focused tasting? I know the biggest issue is caffeine tolerance.

I could try to dial in 7g shots. 🤣🤣

[nova wadi]

Speaking of Prodigal I have a Peruvian gesha I just burped today. Stoked to try that out tomorrow

[nova wadi]

Absolutely! I love trad spro I just like soup and PO more so that’s what I make

I’ve actually been wondering what a good espresso shot from an enthusiast might be like. I’ve only gotten it from coffee shops and in Europe so I’d def love to do that

I mean, I made my own on my Delonghi and picopresso but I’m not sure I ever got good at it

[sharp jasper]

One thing that has been fun for me is tasting espresso on the same grinder, same dose, different shot techniques

Even same grind size!

[nova wadi]

Haha this! It’s such a good deal. I saw you say you didn’t like it though so I was sad lol

[jaunty ice]

Oh no. I like it

Milk blend was a little too roasty as expected but it's okay too

[nova wadi]

Ohhh

[jaunty ice]

I've only had one gabi of the boulder blend from Dec/15 and it was solid. A touch more developed then I usually drink but not in a bad way

[nova wadi]

Gotcha

[jaunty ice]

Super smooth like a good blend should be

I might make a cap and also soup with it tomorrow

[nova wadi]

Yeah on this discord I’m a closeted Prodigal fan

I enjoy their profile

[nova wadi]

Would be so fun. Ever do turbos? I’ve seen them mentioned a million times but I’ve never had one

[sharp jasper]

Yep! Turbo and turboturbo

[nova wadi]

Im so in

[sharp jasper]

Niceee

Okay I'm doing a lot of travel the next few weeks but I'll try to line up a weekend in February

[desert dawn]

Some vendors at SCA Expo pass out l-theanine for coffee jitters

[sharp jasper]

Hmm I've never heard of it.

[desert dawn]

I did an accidental turbo at Azara trying to dial in the Ek43. It was delicious. I told them they should just serve that cause it’s 13 seconds vs 30

[sharp jasper]

I had a Chinese coffee my BIL brought me that lemonade as a tasting note on the bag. I pulled it as a turbo by accident and it tasted like a gosh dang shot of lemonade coffee!! I dialed it for regular espresso and then went back to turbos. 😂

It was 100% better as a turbo.

[desert dawn]

That sounds good

[nova wadi]

Turbos sound right up my alley

[jaunty ice]

I'm around 16-18s with most shots, and I even add milk

[desert dawn]

Basically a turbo

Turbo I think is 13-17s

[jaunty ice]

usually 19-->50g depending on beans

[nova wadi]

I’m scared though cause if I like it too much I’m going to want a nice espresso machine again 🫣

[jaunty ice]

I convinced my little brother to make a Gaggiuino and he told me it's the best espresso machine he's ever owned

[desert dawn]

Economical Decent

[nova wadi]

I was literally about to pull the trigger on a gaggia to mod when Lance dropped his soup video

Then my whole coffee trajectory shifted

[nova wadi]

Damn you weren’t kidding that’s a hell of a drop

Must stay strong

[cedar olive]

You can do this @nova wadi

[nova wadi]

https://tenor.com/view/4th-of-july-bye-hi-hello-cry-gif-14781685269608854762

[plush sinew]

I haven't spent a penny on anything other than regular expenses this month. If I can avoid temptation (the weakest psyche known to mankind), so can you.

In totally unrelated news, I'm now accepting donations of tasty treats, beverages, and anything that might provide happiness via capitalistic means 🥺

[jaunty ice]

Soup and cap pretty good

[gaunt gulch]

@sharp jasper okay. I've made several cups over the last 2 days and I have not figured out how to get it working as well with my gen 1 df64 which has its own set of nonsense and this thing is so finicky and the workflow for the Gen 1 is awful and that I have to restart my grinder five times for a 15 g dose on the slowest disc. And I'm working with the tail end of a bag and a new bag that I'd never had before. But the cups are so good and possibly it's just that I'm amazing at making coffee but that's probably not true

And I'm really worried that it's the cremaloop

[plush sinew]

possibly it's just that I'm amazing at making coffee but that's probably not true
I believe in you

[jaunty ice]

Glad I rode my bike to work yesterday, it’s cold out there today.

[plush sinew]

shorts+shortsleeves to load kiddo up into the car was a M I S T A K E

[jaunty ice]

The gen 1 has auto shutoff?

[gaunt gulch]

Yeah. Like every 45 seconds.

This was supposed to be a temporary grinder that I've had for like 4 years now LOL

[jaunty ice]

Gotta go garaged car, shorts, sandles, short sleeves with a fleece

[jaunty ice]

Oh interesting seems like the updated df64gen2 they got rid of auto off

[gaunt gulch]

I think they made a bunch of really good upgrades on the Gen 2

It's one of the reasons I feel like I want to move to a newer grinder, but I don't know what I would upgrade to so I keep waiting

[jaunty ice]

Should be some better price used 80mm grinders on the market over the next year. BooKoo is interesting but worried about the number of parts that could break.

[desert dawn]

The ode gen 2 has auto shut off. I hate it.

[gaunt gulch]

I'm trying to talk myself out of an eventual flat max or m98v

[desert dawn]

If it helps you any the ZP6 is pretty great. The jump from it to whatever you get is not going to be huge in the cup in my opinion. 15% max improvement

[jaunty ice]

It will be really neat to see 80mm become better explored next couple years.

[desert dawn]

Im sure it will. So many are entering the space

[jaunty ice]

Might ask if someone has a solution here https://discord.com/channels/726985544038612993/927337821109354516

[woven stone]

Seeing Danny’s offerings today

[jaunty ice]

I think I would try all three. But if I had to pick one probably the Sudan rume. Pretty sure the wilder lasso is an anaerobic washed.

[woven stone]

Mixed variety Columbia natural 2 ways. One with Apax mineral drops and one without

[sharp jasper]

Sameeee

So there isn't a way to manually hold the button on?

[gaunt gulch]

There might be but this is the first time I've run into needing it and I haven't really explored it to be honest

[jaunty ice]

The p80 purge and auto off would happen in the moment between picking up and pouring in your beans 😭

[gaunt gulch]

This account seems familiar to me for some reason but I can't quite put my finger on it...https://www.instagram.com/atown_coffee?igsh=MWU0N2s2aHE3MHpu

[jaunty ice]

I really want to hear about Big Sur

[nova wadi]

Seems like a cool dude

Probably worth a follow

[gaunt gulch]

I kind of get the feeling that's a dude who will do anything not to meet up with other Atlanta coffee geeks

[desert dawn]

Leave a rubber mallet next to it…. It might just know to act right

Aw come on he wanted to desperately but was sick

[desert dawn]

Like you haven’t had it before or how is this coming up?

I really enjoy their offerings

[jaunty ice]

Never had before

[desert dawn]

Ooo

What I appreciate about Big Sur… Picky Chemist etc is that they roast light but will adjust “lightness” for flavor. Like some roast so light just to be the lightest thing at a cost of losing flavor

I think that’s what makes them popular very light but make the adjustment for the specific coffee

That’s my personal goal to learn how to do that

[gaunt gulch]

Lol I'm mostly teasing that I ended up at belux like right close to where he was but he was working

[gaunt gulch]

That's pretty cool. I need to branch out more into the bk, hydrangea, pickychemist ect. The sey subscription has been great but I'd like to see what else is out there in the ul or - roast for bean roaster.

[jaunty ice]

Have you tried shoebox?

Bk has a subscription but it’s a bit pricey. I signed up for Airworks subscription hoping to get pickychemist drops but I’m not fast enough.

[nova wadi]

People are saying Sey is back

[jaunty ice]

Since we talked about coffee vacuums we just ended up moving it downstairs

[jaunty ice]

Best cap of the month thanks to boulder blend today. I think I'm going to try long soup again this weekend using the tilt.

[sharp jasper]

Tilt?

[jaunty ice]

The worst part of long soup for me is knocking the air out so tilting allows some holes to not be covered allowing bed to be soaked and avoiding knocking out air bubbles

[sharp jasper]

Ahhhh okay

[jaunty ice]

https://youtu.be/3c4DZJroIv8?si=9pwzxlWuNZLN9ebx at around 7:08

[plush sinew]

yeah have experimented with this a bunch - definitely feels clunky. I've begun trying to seal a straw over a couple holes to aid displacement 😛

[nova wadi]

Did the tilt this morning and it went well

[jaunty ice]

Is it better than 1:4 then bypass?

[nova wadi]

Never done that one

[jaunty ice]

Like I usually go 20g:82g then add water to taste around ~1:1

[nova wadi]

Oh right

It was pretty similar imo. Curious what you think

[nova wadi]

Big Sur lives up to the hype

I mean just one cup so far but it was fantastic

[cedar olive]

Yeah its really good stuff IMO

I don't even love sidras, but I really enjoyed the brews I had of the one you shared on insta this am @nova wadi

[nova wadi]

Yeah this is the first sidra I’ve really liked

[jaunty ice]

The sidra I had from September, one was Pepe jijon were excellent.

[jaunty ice]

Just used same beans I made soup with this morning. Made a mess. Long soup is different, this is good, different texture and I would describe flavor as sweeter and more rounded

[nova wadi]

I’d agree with that

[nova wadi]

Might fire up the roaster tonight

Wild and crazy fridays

[desert dawn]

Just be prepared since it’s cold out you will see a lot of evaporation

[nova wadi]

Yeah I didn’t think through the ventilation

And I certainly don’t want to be outside

Maybe this spring 😅

[jaunty ice]

Did you read the ceto blog post

[nova wadi]

I did not finish it no

I think I do recall that being a topic

[desert dawn]

What happened to Bana

[jaunty ice]

Oh interesting

[nova wadi]

What you mean?

[desert dawn]

It was locked and then disappeared

[jaunty ice]

https://discord.com/channels/726985544038612993/1461891500802834643

[desert dawn]

Ya I saw him doing something. Weird

[nova wadi]

This discord is something else man

Love it

[peak field]

Lmaooooo

[cedar olive]

Such amazing entertainment rn

Been dying at these responses

[nova wadi]

Do feel like some decent info was lost

[jaunty ice]

Searching for Atlanta is how I found Bana

Next thing I know I’m drinking H&S and shunning prodigal

[nova wadi]

World of Coffee would be fun

[cedar olive]

I’d love to go one year

[sharp jasper]

Next year it's in new Orleans

Not too bad of a drive

[desert dawn]

Agree, I went in 2024. I think even a one day pass would be lots of fun.

Most of the equipment manufacturers are there so you can put your hands on stuff and many times use it. Coffee “influencers and celebrities” are there pouring coffee at various booths. Some classes or lectures could be fun too

I would say keep your week somewhat open because there are events that happen earlier in the week too. Usually producers hosting meet and greets, tastings at various local cafes

[nova wadi]

Oh that’s way easier and I know Nola like the back of my hand

[sharp jasper]

Road trip??

I feel like I would want the full 3 days because I'd want 3 days of caffeine tolerance. 🫨

Not to mention the 1 day pass is $200ish and the 3 day ia $300ish

[desert dawn]

Ya that’s a good point

[peak field]

Any good shops in Woodstock

I’m in the area right now

[desert dawn]

How far is canton

lol

Sorry I don’t know Woodstock

Alma Coffee in Canton

[nova wadi]

Bizarre coffee is in Woodstock I think but they’re mostly crazy milk drinks (nothing wrong with that just saying)

Alma is kinda close

[desert dawn]

I just looked at the Florida meet up photos. It’s nuts!!!

I mean seriously. It’s nuts.

The whole kitchen and extra tables covered in coffee samples and gear

[sharp jasper]

I was so close, yet so far... 😭😭😭

[desert dawn]

Did you see the photos. I can’t believe it’s so much gear and coffee

[cedar olive]

We got to step our gear game up

Who’s buying the kafatek

[desert dawn]

@gaunt gulch has had his eyes on one

They had a couple Ozik grinders. I’ve never heard of them but they def look like titans

[sharp jasper]

Yessss!!

[cedar olive]

Just an unreal set up

[plush sinew]

That's an understatement

It's like S.Korean Titus

[cedar olive]

Any idea how much it costs??

[desert dawn]

I don’t know but flow said it’s worth it

Flow (Carl) from Bana

[cedar olive]

4k for single and 7-8k for the double

[desert dawn]

Is that South Korean dollar

South Korean won

Just did the conversion. Ya it’s gotta be USD

[sharp jasper]

They are 80mm. Even though side by side would be fun, I'd rather a Flat max and MC6 for the money.

They do look solid though

[jaunty ice]

There have been a few oziks for resale.

[sharp jasper]

Yeah I saw that double unit sit for a minute...

[jaunty ice]

For me buying and then selling an ozik underscores that there is no “end game” just different tools- many outside the price I’m willing to spend.

Fm grinder also pretty expensive

[gaunt gulch]

Ha I've been slowly putting money aside but I dunno if I'm there yet lol. I feel like with @desert dawn super portable travel grinder we're doing ok

[gaunt gulch]

Ugh south Koreans in coffee!

[gaunt gulch]

What did I just watch? They come in pairs?

[nova wadi]

That’s pretty cool

[nova wadi]

I was going to do my first roast last night but got surprised with plans

Went to grana with some friends. Pretty good

[jaunty ice]

My daughter was asking for Grana yesterday. It’s solid. She calls it the “place where it’s difficult to avoid pork”

I’m really happy the Florida meet had a gevi velpro 400 (grindmaster)

[nova wadi]

I think I saw something about this in here, but I got a base to lean my DF64 forward and it has rubber feet on the bottom and I can tell a major difference in noise

[jaunty ice]

Like it’s less noisy when tilted?

Made boulder blend plus remaining Aricha blend (boulmax?) in Gabi. Solid last cup.

[nova wadi]

I think it’s because of the rubber feet

Was hoping the tilt would fix the insane retention I’m having

But doesn’t seem like it

At least it’s less loud

[jaunty ice]

Df64 gen1?

[nova wadi]

2

[jaunty ice]

With Gen 2 I would use a pipe cleaner while powered off to try and clear the grounds from the plastic doorway for the ionizer which can be a choke point

It will snag the pipe cleaner if you try this while running

[nova wadi]

I feel like I clean it out all the time but I might need to take it off

[jaunty ice]

Might be helpful to see what’s going on inside at that doorway. Don’t fiddle with the plastic doorway with bare fingers it’s serrated for some reason.

I’m sure you’ve opened it plenty but I’m obligated to say be careful while threading the aluminum is soft and can apparently cross thread relatively easily.

[nova wadi]

I haven’t opened it since I put in the MPs and haven’t messed with the plastic doorway so that’s a good call out

[woven stone]

Put my time off at work for April 10-13. Gonna book flights to SD soon

My buddy went to WOC Dubai today. I think that tipped the scale for me

[nova wadi]

Dang

I wanna go

[jaunty ice]

Ozik next to kafatek

Oh I missed the Titus 😂

[cedar olive]

Where is this????

[jaunty ice]

Bimodal

#1404884081417916427 message

[desert dawn]

I haven’t booked but will def be there.

[desert dawn]

If I was rich I wouldn’t tell anyone, but there would be signs

[gaunt gulch]

Yeah but no range hood! What are they even doing in Florida?!?

[jaunty ice]

Just taking a look at the worn wdt spray bottle I see a photo of priorities.

[gaunt gulch]

Lol

[cedar olive]

@desert dawn I’m going a check in cup of gititu today

Actually rn

This is guud as well - acidity is poppin once again.

[plush sinew]

oh yeah I still have another bag of that to crack

oh yeah I still have another bag of that to crack
FTFM

[desert dawn]

Wooooo!! How many days off roast at the moment? Roughly 30?

[nova wadi]

Kinda hate my K6 lately

Daughters been home sick so I have been hand grinding mostly. Only good brews I have had are when I’ve been able to squeeze in one with the MPs

[gaunt gulch]

You need that k7😂

[jaunty ice]

I was surprised how loud even manual grinding was when you want to be silent. I did not get away with it in the hotel room.

[cedar olive]

Yeah I think 34 or 35 days?? Roasted on 12-15

[nova wadi]

Crazy how loud it is when you’re trying to be discreet haha

Who all in here is doing MCL

[gaunt gulch]

Dang I got to pull mine

[nova wadi]

Time for a little bag burp

[gaunt gulch]

@nova wadi which blind Shaker did you end up getting?

[nova wadi]

I’ve had a mw3 bomber one for a while

[daring flare]

will be up in atl at around 3-4pm if any wanna meet up for coffee/a coffee trade

[gaunt gulch]

You sold?

[nova wadi]

Huh?

[plush sinew]

🤨

ctl7g out here confusing people like it his job

[jaunty ice]

Ctl7g means sold like when my kids use it- you had it in the bag but the you made a mistake and gave up the game.

[desert dawn]

Oh man I don’t think I’ll be able to make it today. What area are you headed to

[daring flare]

Buckhead

[nova wadi]

Still confused lol

[jaunty ice]

The way you phrased it is sort of like a Mitch hedberg quote. Sort of- I think he read as had instead of have had

[nova wadi]

Oh lol

[jaunty ice]

You are in my neck of the woods but I don’t want to share my cold with you and in the middle of meetings

And these beans aren’t ready to drink yet- these will be my first aviary and scenery

[daring flare]

I see. Was planning on bringing some panamas up

[plush sinew]

gotta give us more advance notice. clearly we're all anxiety ridden ad(h)d nerds who need to clear the calendar for coffee excursions

Also I'd have to take marta, and as much as I love the ATV, I'm in the middle of budget season

[daring flare]

Perc today isn’t all that bad. A little blueberry, some stonefruit, black tea astringency but I can’t complain :))))))

[gaunt gulch]

You said "had" one!

[gaunt gulch]

Which location did you hit up?

[gaunt gulch]

Oops missed this

[nova wadi]

I can’t be held accountable for what I be typing

[gaunt gulch]

I like the Mitch hedberg reference

[gaunt gulch]

This

[nova wadi]

There’s a lot of smart people on this discord, I am not one of them

I represent the every man

[jaunty ice]

TIL about “present perfect”

[daring flare]

Wieuca

[jaunty ice]

I think the Italian pasties at Rosetta are pretty good if you’re here tomorrow morning. I think they came up here from Miami. Not going to recommend their coffee though I haven’t tried it myself

[daring flare]

Unfortunately I’ve already gone back to Macon 🙁

[jaunty ice]

That feels unfair that Perc would skip Macon and go straight to Atlanta.

[jaunty ice]

I’m glad the potential Ice storm is falling on a weekend but I may need to cancel my son’s birthday party :/

It snowed about 8 or 9 years ago in Atlanta and the next day it turned to ice. I told my wife to stay on Ponce and Clifton on her way to emory but she took her usual cut through Vickers Dr and found a massive downhill of pure ice. Her car lost control and slid into the side of the road along with several other people.

[gaunt gulch]

No today or 10 years ago?

[jaunty ice]

I turned around on Ponce on my way to work and started heading back to her. Stopped just north of Vickey’s and walked down to her. A kind driver helped push her car free and I directed it over ice into the intersection which fortunately had enough sun (Hummingbird ln?) so I could drive the car again. Absolutely frightening. Appreciate the help I would have left the car

[jaunty ice]

Yeah this was 2017 or 2018 maybe? So 8-9 years ago now that I think about it

Yeah looks like December and January 2017 to 2018 we had snow two times

[nova wadi]

Snowpocalypse. I remember it well

[jaunty ice]

Found this quote from my text group 1/18/25 “So the best (worst) part of the story is that someone saw my wife spin out on the ice, parked, got out of her car took a picture said “I just wanted to share this with the people at work” then got back into her car and drove off without helping.”

[nova wadi]

Wait maybe that wasn’t it

[jaunty ice]

Took this on my drive from daycare to our home in north Decatur. Took me an hour to drive 1 mile the streets were so jammed. All the schools and daycares were all canceled at once.

This is from January 28 2014

[nova wadi]

Okay yeah that was it

My wife is a teacher and she was like one of the last to leave. Ended up having to abandon her car and walk 3 miles home in the snow

Wild times

Need to go to Home Depot and find a sled

Sorry to hear about your sons birthday

[jaunty ice]

Next day we went sledding at home

[nova wadi]

Daww

[plush sinew]

much easier in other languages because english is DUMB. A. F.

[desert dawn]

Yeah we get made fun of a lot because Atlanta shuts down bc of “snow” but it’s the ice not the snow

[plush sinew]

Well it's looking good for us this time around to not get snow/ice

if we get frozen anything this weekend, we're HOSED because there ain't no plows/salt trucks coming on loan from anywhere up the coast.

[jaunty ice]

I took a course in grammar my last year in college. I appreciated how my mind was blown but at the same time a lot of the rules ultimately just make sense if you’re a native speaker. Also how are we going to survive without a real future tense?

Hoping for Atlanta’s sake the storm keeps moving north but it seem like I haven’t really considered the impact of the ice:

[plush sinew]

Oh boy, gonna get me all hot and bothered talking linguistics and lexical features.

What's wild is that it took you until college to have that course! US education crushing it on failing its people. It's often those natural/obvious feelings and rules about grammar that really improve things like reading and critical thinking when you're able to put the actual names/guidelines to them (would cite studies, but on mobile)

My first (good/advanced) grammar exposure was 8th grade, then in 9th grade I started taking Latin which really opens up understanding of grammar across languages.

[jaunty ice]

Feel like I studied more grammar in Spanish than in English in HS.

[plush sinew]

Another reason second language education should be mandatory

[desert dawn]

There is a chance I will do a pop up 2/28 in Athens again

[nova wadi]

Do you work at the Shepard Center? Good buddy of mine survived a brain tumor thanks to the work they do

[cedar olive]

Looks like piedmont to me!

[nova wadi]

Ah yes

Sky looks like snow in that pic

[jaunty ice]

Yeah both

Been working with shepherd for almost 11 years but it’s so specialized that every situation is its own challenge

This photo is from the (newish) tower. I frequently snap photos, this feels like a calm before the storm

[plush sinew]

https://tenor.com/view/rick-and-morty-morty-you-son-of-a-bitch-im-in-animated-series-gif-17733141

[nova wadi]

Wow very cool. A bunch of my friends used to do fundraising for Shepard. Would go to the derby days event every year. Yall are doing great things!

[gaunt gulch]

Made a mistake and tamped my inverted orb-over because I'm half asleep and it's taking forever. But I'm interested to see what happens

Ugh it's not great

Lol thanks y'all.

[woven stone]

I too messed up this morning. Ground at 50um vs 550 on the Zerno for pour over. Wasted my blueberry Dak🥲

[gaunt gulch]

Ugh the worst

[woven stone]

ok. booked my hotel for WoC. lol Margaritaville 😂

had to use my amex credit somehow

[nova wadi]

I’ve done 4 roasts now. Maybe 1 decent

I did not take into account how this would effect my backlog

Finna be bursting at the seams with mid to badly roasted coffee

[nova wadi]

Jimmy would be proud

[cedar olive]

That's so cool @nova wadi - what green do you have to roast?

[jaunty ice]

I messed up too but I messed up over a month ago by buying “washed” hydrangea beans but not looking carefully enough at the tasting notes for funk avoidance. Live and learn.

[nova wadi]

So I guess when you buy a roaster from Sweet Maria’s they throw in a bunch of random green beans. First two I did were a blend of a bunch of different things. Not sure they turned out well but just wanted to get the feel for the roaster. Last night I did two roasts of a Sumatra Lintong. Never had it before but just trying to dial in the roaster and learn how to use it before attempting some of the better looking green

It’s pretty fun. New obsession unlocked

But yeah so now I have ~800g badly roasted beans I don’t know what to do with 😅

[jaunty ice]

Cappuccino?

[nova wadi]

I think I’m going to give them to my friends who drink keurig mostly lol

Yall are my only coffee friends

[jaunty ice]

Same. Especially in Atlanta

[sharp jasper]

Cold Brew? Thats what I sometimes use for mid-beans.

[nova wadi]

That’s a good call

[gaunt gulch]

I've got a couple Atlanta coffee friends but only because they know about 20% of the insanity

One of them at our holiday party told his mom that I'm really into it and have "like 4 ways to make coffee" 😅

[sharp jasper]

Yeah every time I make people coffee at home, I am mildly disappointed that people do not treat me like Britt treats Kato in The Green Hornet. Cause dang it, I feel like Kato!!! Haha

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8r_q-6Ygsv0

[gaunt gulch]

Dude, this is like the second green hornet reference that has popped up in my sphere this week

[sharp jasper]

I saw it on Reddit yesterday!!

[gaunt gulch]

What's Reddit?

[sharp jasper]

Seriously?? (Sarcasm detector 🧐)

[gaunt gulch]

Lol yes

[sharp jasper]

Reddit.com

Forum website

Pretty funny coffee groups

[nova wadi]

Gonna be making coffee for like 6 dudes this weekend and I’m nervous

My friends now know I’m a coffee guy so expectations are high

[jaunty ice]

People confused why you are making everyone coffee out of a plastic oxo.

[nova wadi]

Gonna be hooping it up

I’ve actually made them soup before and they politely told me they liked it lol

[jaunty ice]

Politely told you they liked it or didn’t like it?

My mother didn’t give me any feedback when I made some for her- so I assume it wasn’t great. She prefers Major Dickasons

[nova wadi]

Liked it, as in they were polite and I’m not sure how they really felt

[jaunty ice]

Ah got it

It’s so different than like a coffee they might be used to drinking and people generally prefer their own normal coffee

Spent a lot of time trying to figure out how to make my wife the coffee she wants and ultimately came back to making French press but I was able to improve our recipe quite a bit.

[nova wadi]

Yeah I’m trying to decide what coffee to bring because most of my stuff is pretty light. Maybe prodigal

[plush sinew]

Y'all out here fuckin up morning brews, I'm out here not remembering the last time I made coffee because existence is work.

We are not the same (You have better quality of life)

(But Papa Capitalism will reward me, surely!)

[nova wadi]

I work from home so I’m able to brew up tasty on the daily

(I miss an office)

[sharp jasper]

I drink coffee, so I can work longer, so I can earn more, so I can drink more coffee... 🥴

[plush sinew]

Dawg, so do I... I must be doing something wrong here

(you do not miss an office. fuck a office. always and forever)

[nova wadi]

I have severe adhd.. every day is a struggle to focus

When my boss sat behind me at the office it was my best production ever

[desert dawn]

I have still yet to book

Today’s blah cup. I tasted the red honey and dry aroma was intense with red fruit, florals and some spice. Taste I got sweetness almost like ripe red fruit with some light florals. The finish lingers but something about its structure is off. I don’t know how to describe it, but the way the taste is happening in your mouth the whole experience of middle taste going to finish is off which through everything. Makes you think wait that’s weird

[gaunt gulch]

I'm still waiting for my pat on the back from that invisible hand

[plush sinew]

You don't get one every morning? Or maybe that's just the swift kick in the rear reminding me "the mines are open you slovenly fool, SO GET BACK TO WORK!"

[cedar olive]

If it's any consolation, the Gititu ripped this morning

[desert dawn]

That’s amazing news!! I think the red honey I was tasting was just too young (1 week off roast). I’m still learning my style and how my cup evolves over time. So far until I really like something I don’t release it.

[cedar olive]

We are all our own biggest critics

[jaunty ice]

I decided to make a filter with a natural Ethiopian not quite 3 weeks off roast. I used to love naturals but since using the a4z I haven’t been able to enjoy anything but washed.

Used the gabi, 88c, 13g:200mL, first brew was okay, some unpleasant harshness which I expected. Tried the lagom mini with moonshine burrs, a but coarser. It was worse. Went way coarse on a4z for a third attempt and it was the worst I really isolated that unpleasant flavor, now it’s weak and very bad.

I’ll try again in February keep those variables and go finer to start.

[desert dawn]

When we did the cupping at Azara the majority were ones I thought not to release. Turned out they just needed loads of time

[desert dawn]

Are you keeping the same constant 13/200? What temp

[jaunty ice]

Yeah. 88c. I like the Gabi because it’s easy to just change one thing. 1 minute bloom at 45g or so

[desert dawn]

Do you follow that with multiple pulses essentially a 4/5 pour recipe

[jaunty ice]

No it’s the Gabi so it’s just like a constant low agitation stream

[desert dawn]

Ah I see

[jaunty ice]

It’s similar to the ratio 4 but I can’t control temp on that

[desert dawn]

I was thinking even though it’s coarser grind it may be pushing the coffee too hard

I find I really like coffee in the 1.3X TDS because florals and nuance are very tea like and shine. I can push them much harder in the EG1 (or any of these grinders you guys are using really) to 1.5 tds without hitting astringency but it comes at a cost of losing certain nuance and but intensifying other flavors

I did the red honey on the Aiden in batch it only hit 1.29 tds. I added cream and sugar to see what customers might taste… somehow the cream opened up these perfumey florals??? At 1.40 tds instead it pulled out complex spices

[jaunty ice]

I felt like the coarsest grind just leaned into the badness so I’m interested to see what it does if I go finer. I have 300g of this coffee so I can play around, let it rest, see if I can learn how to make a decent cup with the tools I have.

I’m thinking about picking up a k ultra to use as a secondary grinder for naturals