ATLien Aficionados 🍑

[vocal mesa]

Will let you know after I get it and throw 10 pounds of seasoning beans through it. I am about 18 hours out from ordering it.

[gaunt gulch]

Ugh sorry I am not keeping up today

[desert dawn]

Sounds exciting! How are you seasoning it

[plush sinew]

078s enjoyer here wishing I'd just gone 078

though might just be enough of an excuse to get a z2. . .

👀 *makes sure accountant partner isn't looking over my should... *

[nova wadi]

https://coffeeindustryjobs.com/job/509/technical-account-representative/

This would be cool

[gaunt gulch]

Didn't even know la marzo co had an office here

I've been rebuilding a cremina for 3 years. Do you think that would count as working in specialty?

[nova wadi]

Sounds good to me haha

I want to get out of software so bad

[plush sinew]

what'dya do?

idk what a technical account rep would be for a "hardware" company like LM, but it either sounds like they're going to be making you try to sell service contracts or just manage service/repair at shops. Unless LM is trying to expand a service and training program in the US, which seems dubious given wider economics.

But also I am jaded by industry (and specifically american corporations), so don't mind me.

At least we has coffee

[nova wadi]

Fintech software sales

Bundles of fun

[plush sinew]

Ah I was thinking burndout SWE type. Equally if differently exhausting either way, I know

Though I suspect it's still a bear market for those types until we hit a new cycle or the AI bubble bursts

[jaunty ice]

In 2008 I spent a month working in NYC and met up with one of my wife's friends from college. He was in mortgage backed securities and wanted to talk to us about changing his career. I think we convinced him to stay in finance

[cedar olive]

Being in mortgage baked securities in 2008 wouldve been a wild time

[jaunty ice]

Yeah for real, I can imagine why he would be considering a career change. But I think by the time he realized how many years and income he would lose changing career paths it kept him in finance

But maybe he opened up a coffee shop since then I dunno

[nova wadi]

I did implementation and data conversions for a long time and got annoyed that the sales people were making more than me so I went to the sales side lol

[nova wadi]

Yeah the income loss is the only thing that holds me back

[jaunty ice]

A lot of benefit to just saving as much as you can and only splurging on coffee to allow you some financial freedom down the road. Not sure if the kind of work you do can turn into consulting gigs/self employment

[plush sinew]

Yeah I'm socking away all my software moneys until the day a perfect south of France palace comes across my insta feed

Because those prices are somehow more reasonable than Atlanta home prices

[nova wadi]

Now that’s the dream

[nova wadi]

True

[desert dawn]

The only thing I don’t like is they say 8-5 every day plus must be flexible to work evenings and weekends.

[plush sinew]

What's not to like?

-Me, working for a startup, where the working hours are a single number, and the days of the week don't matter!

[desert dawn]

Yeah, who wouldn’t want to be around coffee people who have no filter and ask 1000 questions all week long. Especially the ones that gave you 30k for a machine and can’t pull a shot

[jaunty ice]

Graduated cylinder arrived. Previously using my $10 GH/KH kit I measured my water to be 53.7/35.8 but I knew that the truth was likely less than that since the resolution is 17.9 per drop

[desert dawn]

I will say I was on a kb90 last week trying to steam milk…. I don’t have commercial espresso machine experience. Boy will I need practice. The steam power is incredible

[jaunty ice]

using 20mL of water in the graduated cylinder I came up with 35.8/22.4

[plush sinew]

:10000:
Steam is THE THING I am reminded of every time I go from any home machine to a pro setup

[jaunty ice]

I convinced my little brother to build a Gaggiuino and he loves the steam compared to his la Pavoni

[plush sinew]

I'm like sitting here piddling around for 30s waiting for bambi to get my milk lukewarm and maybe some macrobubbles...

Touch a slayer steam wand and I'm in a milkfroth bubblebath.

[desert dawn]

Dude. I couldn’t even aerate the milk without blowing it out of the pitcher.

And the cool touch wands I’m very jealous

[plush sinew]

might just need more volume in the pitcher - I have that problem because I'm always trying to minmax the milk amounts (I hate milk waste!!!!)

[desert dawn]

It was darker in the cafe so I could barely see the steam wand tip

[jaunty ice]

I kept microwaving and using a frother because I'm the same way (should be less energy than a boiler too)

[sacred vale]

I’m literally roasting this right now 🙂

[vocal mesa]

https://tenor.com/view/captainamerica-chrisevans-avengers-thanks-thankyou-gif-14200824967700137946

[gaunt gulch]

My friend got sent this by accident and it doesn't fit his machine. Does anyone need for their? https://www.espressocoffeeshopusa.com/accessories/116-0-ims-shower-screen-ga-200-im-gaggia.html

[nova wadi]

Brent in the ATL thread, love it!

[desert dawn]

Hey Yall, did we officially decide a time for the meet up on 12/7? I know we said must be between 9am-2pm?

@sharp jasper

[gaunt gulch]

I'm probably not availble until about 1030-11 but if everyone else can meet up earlier go for it and I'll try to make it work

[cedar olive]

Can’t make this one as I’m still in newborn phase but I’d love to make the next!

[sharp jasper]

Want to do 11am?

Seems to be the best time for @gaunt gulch @desert dawn

[gaunt gulch]

Awesome. Anything we can bring?

[desert dawn]

That works for me

Yes, I can bring coffee, equipment, food or happy to chip in on anything

[desert dawn]

Morning QC
Aiden + Ode gen 2 stock burrs

Goal: Can the stock Ode do UL well, and TDS limits 1.30s? 1.40s?

8.8g/150g. 80C bloom 1:3. 2x 92c pulses. Pulsar top in chamber

-Cup 1, WTH?? Unpleasant acidity, chemical, very under extracted. Grind 6.2

-Cup 2, Sweetness, better flavor, not enough. TDS only 1.17, Grind 6.0

92C bloom
-Cup 3, Complexity, grapefruit and spice middle with blk tea finish. Happy with this but feels like it needs to be pushed but a faint touch of dry. Probably just too small of a dose. TDS 1.32

UL: no complaints so far
TDS: Want to see 1.40s
8.8g is not easy on any brewer. I’ll try again later with higher dose and finer grind.

[cedar olive]

I did 12.5/209g brew this am at 88c and got the best cup so far. Acidity was more in balance and it was a really enjoyable cup

[jaunty ice]

I used the df64 gen2 with those og2 burrs and found my cups to be a touch dry and unlike the zp6 where taste improves as it cools with the og2 astringency became more noticable as it cooled

[desert dawn]

Interesting... and the Aiden is also known for astringency since its so efficient

[desert dawn]

So 1:17ish but 88C. I have been slowly doing lower in temps and enjoying it

[cedar olive]

Exactly. I think lower temp on this roast specifically is good

Especially with an acid forward Kenyan. Was talking about this with Max at Shoebox for the Kamogogo roast because I was getting unpleasant acidity with those beans using his QC recipe. I actually think it ended up being more of a water issue, but his rec was to lower temp on Kenyans if acidity is too intense

[jaunty ice]

Oh I hadn’t heard that. I’ve been using the ratio 4, planning to take it to my FIL during CNY, seems pretty good. Looks like they updated it after I bought it 🤦‍♂️

[jaunty ice]

Oh that’s interesting. I was about to say that sounded like a shoey rec. I’ll try 12.5:200 at 88c next go

[cedar olive]

I did 1.7.4 on the A4Z too @jaunty ice

[jaunty ice]

I’m at 1.4.8 but I think we have similar brew time? I’m at 2:15 or so with shoey 4 pour v60 recipe

[cedar olive]

So interesting. Does your burr lock at 0.0.0?

lol I actually just checked mine and it went past 0.0.0 - I was close to locking at -0.0.6.

So really I was at 1.8.0??

With the adjustment I just made, I am between 1.7.6-1.8.0 for almost all shoey beans with v60 4 pour recipe. Usually hitting between 2:10-2:45

[jaunty ice]

I'm not sure I never pushed my zp6 past 0 but then @gaunt gulch was able to get it to -0.5

[gaunt gulch]

One time I did it! Lol

[vocal mesa]

How is the A4Z?

Give me a chance to maximize my FOMO before my 078 arrives

[cedar olive]

Personally, I have thoroughly enjoyed it

Having had the zp6 for a little bit, I feel like it offers something different than the zp6

Feel like it had more body and complexity compared to the zp6 but doesn’t necessarily sacrifice clarity

[vocal mesa]

rejects 078 delivery

[gaunt gulch]

Lol

[vocal mesa]

ZP6 has been good to me over the last two years

[jaunty ice]

078 more boba, a4z more kiki 😂

[jaunty ice]

So I think the 078 would pair better with a zp6 and would use both if I had them.

[vocal mesa]

TCC has unique sensory alignment

[jaunty ice]

I agree with you I haven’t really liked his recipes.

[gaunt gulch]

i really liked his switch recipe but the others i have tried were'nt nearly as good

[jaunty ice]

I used his switch recipe almost a year ago and I think water was holding me back since I gave up on the switch and left it where I was traveling

[vocal mesa]

Used that recipe for the first time in a year, a few days ago, for the H&S Cranmerry Blend. A good fallback when you need to EY min

[desert dawn]

@jaunty ice I watched more of chef and my fridge. I’m seeing some of the chefs I like lose. Not sure this show is good 🫠

[jaunty ice]

At least they are losing to good chefs? I’m going to be honest I can barely watch it but my wife loves it

[desert dawn]

I watched it just to see one chef perform. Then he lost. So f- that sh!t

[jaunty ice]

Edward Lee?

[desert dawn]

Him and mafia

And the other tall skinny guy. But mainly mafia to see what he was up to

[jaunty ice]

Often I can’t tell what they will pick and it feels arbitrary which I think is the point.

[sharp jasper]

@gaunt gulch if yall bring some coffee and preferred brew method thats easy to travel with, that sounds fun. I do not have a kettle, just the Decent at home. Along with several grinders.

Ive never hosted a coffee event. So I'll just have a smattering of snacks to eat with it. 😅

[nova wadi]

I’m tentative but hoping I can make it work

[desert dawn]

Deal, coffee, preferred brewing equipment, and kettle

[sharp jasper]

Ayeeeee thats it!

[gaunt gulch]

Wait so I need to bring my Keurig and Dunkin ' pods or you have enough pods and I just bring my Keurig?

[sharp jasper]

Believe it or not, my wife prefers her K-cups.

[gaunt gulch]

I believe it. I'm married and know there's a hard limit to how far you can push a partner's preferred routines and sometimes that limit is zero.

Though my wife can make a pretty mean pour over. I don't know what her recipe or technique is but as long as I didn't change the grind setting to something weird while experimenting, it's always tasty.

[sharp jasper]

Yeah some of it is the routine. She works 2nd shift, I work 8-5. On weekends she does partake in specialty coffee if I can get up earlier than her. 😂😂😂

[nova wadi]

Its hard to beat the convenience of a k-cup

[desert dawn]

This was my wife till she stopped making coffee cause I was making hers. After many years the pods slowly left

[jaunty ice]

I’m making my wife spiced coffee on the weekends with our French press and I think I converted her to soup during the work week.

The only problem area is when she has to get up early and wants to make it herself.

[desert dawn]

I really want a grind by weight grinder to solve this, but I can’t commit to running full bags

[gaunt gulch]

What about your dose tubes?

[desert dawn]

I don’t use them on the daily. Just for events or hosting people. If I’m going out of town I’ll prep them for my wife and set the grinder.

[gaunt gulch]

Okay, I'm headed up to Roswell last minute. Any shops I need to check out up there?

[cedar olive]

Belux sources really good green and the couple that owns it is wonderful

But they skew more towards coal than not coal

definitely worth checking out though! If you go, let us know what you get!

[gaunt gulch]

Hmm

[cedar olive]

To be fair, I haven’t been back in a while, but I believe they do manual pour overs in shop which is a huge ➕

[gaunt gulch]

I do like that. I don't love paying manual. Pour over prices when they just stick it under a robot

[nova wadi]

Oh shit you’re heading my way

Belux is the only manual PO spot

It’s more roasted but it’s not bad imo

[gaunt gulch]

Where would you hit up espresso?

[nova wadi]

Best you’re going to find up here

Belux probably

Where in Roswell

[gaunt gulch]

I'm not sure I'm driving right now but I'm passing the Publix on shallowford and I'm about 10 minutes away if that means anything to you

[desert dawn]

Belux

The owner is a Q grader and the only one I know in Atlanta offering very high end stuff like Esmeralda

[gaunt gulch]

I'm like 4 MI from belux

I'll check it out

[desert dawn]

The Esmeralda was border line light/medium. which honestly I’m not mad at.

They do have darker stuff too. Ex: wife had a Rose latte where they took the time to craft their own syrup and other little nuances to bring out the flavor. They paired it with a darker espresso. The balance on the latte worked well

Double check hours. One location is the roasting facility and very limited hours

I respect them because they take the time to try and serve good products not just stuff for IG photos. Hopefully you meet the owner and can sit at the bar with him. Shorter Asian man

After meeting you I think you will enjoy picking his brain

[cedar olive]

His name is Ben! Super nice guy

[desert dawn]

Ah yes! I could not remember it

Full disclosure Esmeralda will run you easily $40/cup

Yall I just bought a used Ditting I’m super excited to have this currently unnecessary grinder

[gaunt gulch]

Ha amazing

Where did you find it?

[nova wadi]

Damn just saw this

[gaunt gulch]

Fuck it

[plush sinew]

I might be able to pop in this weekend after family ish, but depends on where y'all are doing this shindig— @sharp jasper wheres you located?

[nova wadi]

Dude how long you going to be there for?

Damn wish I knew you were gonna be in my neck of the woods

[gaunt gulch]

I'm probably here for as long as I drink this.

[gaunt gulch]

Yeah I didn't know I was going to be here when I left this morning lol

Sorry I dunno know that posted twice

[sharp jasper]

I'm in Doraville, right by PIB and 285

[plush sinew]

oh that's easy, ya I can probs swing by around 1130+

[sharp jasper]

Sweet!

Do you like bourbon @plush sinew ?

👀

[plush sinew]

only on days ending in y, sorry

[sharp jasper]

Haha

I have a pretty solid collection of rare stuff I need help finishing

[nova wadi]

Stuck in a meeting. I’m so bummed 😭

How is it

[plush sinew]

well idk how much help I'll be on a Sunday morning, but happy to be on the helping-list 😅

my neighbor was the former owner of O4D, so I got very familiar with Atlanta's local spirit offerings 😛

[gaunt gulch]

It's really nice. A bit darker than I'd prefer but his brew method is quite gentle and it's very well done

[nova wadi]

Kinda sad that they take such quality green and make it so dark

[gaunt gulch]

It's funny he has his brew method on his sweatshirt

[nova wadi]

But yeah that’s the best PO spot up here for sure

/ only

Damn I’m so sad I couldn’t come meet you

[gaunt gulch]

It's very interesting. Love to get @desert dawn thoughts on the roast

[sharp jasper]

Oh man! I've never been. That's pretty neat

[nova wadi]

They don’t even need me on this call. Just here to show my face

Lame

[desert dawn]

FB marketplace

[gaunt gulch]

Oh did they change owners recently?

[plush sinew]

Yeah the owners were two brothers, sold

[nova wadi]

👋

[gaunt gulch]

We bought a barrel from them at work last two years

[plush sinew]

https://shortbarrelbourbon.com/shortbarrel-o4d/

[gaunt gulch]

Oh yeah it was short barrel

[nova wadi]

I think O4W was MGP juice

Wasn’t it?

[plush sinew]

sounds right, idr

[nova wadi]

I’ve never tried short barrel. Always been a little too pricey imo

[gaunt gulch]

@nova wadi is this where you bought your v60 carafe?

[nova wadi]

Amazon…

I should have bought from them tho

They have some decent stuff

[gaunt gulch]

He said they used filtered water not a remineralized

[nova wadi]

Is it Jose?

[gaunt gulch]

No they just have a filter for City water

As far as I could tell. There was a group of people in there that were being so loud that we could barely hear each other even though I was sitting at the bar lol

[nova wadi]

Usually when I go there it’s just me and Jose chopping it up

He’s not bana pilled tho

Tried to tell him about soup

He looked at me like I was crazy

Surprises me how small the Ultra Light scene is

[gaunt gulch]

Ha he sells the sweatshirt

Oh yes there was another guy there

The owner is the one who brewed mine

Yeah I feel like if I were to talk about something much lighter at this shop they would sort of think I was a little crazy

What the hell is happening to my discord? All my messages are getting late. Crazy mixed up

[nova wadi]

Oh nice I’ve never gotten to meet the owner

[gaunt gulch]

He had a meeting that they had to move to LOL

Damn. There's a lot of Middle Eastern restaurants over here. I got to bring my wife up this area

[nova wadi]

All the food down here is great

Let me know if you’re ever back in the area

[gaunt gulch]

For sure man! Like I said I literally had no idea I was coming up to this area until about 2 hours ago

Would have brought your df64 part if I knew

[nova wadi]

No worries man

[nova wadi]

Kinda want this

Would replace the chemex with a v60

Oh it’s on there!

Dang I’m gonna have to grab one

[desert dawn]

I went to a presentation. Lightly roasted coffee sales amount to less than 10% of coffee sales. Imagine UL is less than 1%

Many of the roasters there wanted to roast lighter, but it doesn’t sell. Then it showed that the light market is not brand loyal. They buy from everybody. A lot of them said they would end up having to put their fancy micro-lots into darker blends just to get rid of them. It was sad. You could see a little piece of the roasters die as they admitted all this

[nova wadi]

That makes a lot of sense honestly. Pretty niche

I think if people knew the flavor you could get they’d be more interested

Sales is like 90% education

People don’t know what they don’t know

Or I could be way off base

The masses just want their pumpkin spice lattes and peppermint mocha Frappuccino

[desert dawn]

I haven’t had that one. I had one from him around May? Lots of florals. I would like to see it lighter, but I can’t be mad at him when most shops won’t even offer manual brew and don’t do it well

[desert dawn]

I had PSL at Starbucks at the start of the season even with dark roast in it I couldn’t taste coffee ???

I saw her put coffee in it.

Shit forgot I’m supposed to be on a call

[gaunt gulch]

Yeah it was such a intentional presentation and really nice result but I kept wondering what a lighter roast and subsequent complimentary different Brew style

He even said that some people complain to him because his coffee is not roasted darkly enough for them

[desert dawn]

I think this is the main issue.

Dark roast people complain faster than light roast people. Lot changes or any minor change to their cup they notice immediately because they are very loyal to what they drink.

Oh the other thing in the presentation people expect to see the name consistent. They don’t want to see all the other info on the bags cause it’s more confusing

“Breakfast blend”
“Mocha Java”
“Espresso roast”

[jaunty ice]

YES

It took me way too long to find enchiladas similar to what I’m used to back in California.

[desert dawn]

Check it out. Makes it look like medium is preferred only to find out the people who said medium was bc the bag said medium. The roast was actually dark AF

[jaunty ice]

Have to remember that Bana types are not mainstream. Independently outnumbered by coffee milkshake lovers, boomer spro types, and Waffle House cup drinkers

[desert dawn]

Totally agree. Full disclosure at some point I plan to roast dark AF.

[jaunty ice]

I wonder what light roast cm yeast processed coffee tastes like in a percolator

[desert dawn]

Round

I plan to roast dark AF with high end stuff. Most people that do don’t put thought into it. Rob’s presentation and sampling was impressive

[jaunty ice]

I’m learning to prepare and appreciate darker roasts. Anti-unimodal thread is there to help

[desert dawn]

I just figure if I have to make a milkys then I need to make sure I can roast that really well that I’m happy to serve it black if needed

[jaunty ice]

Made a boomer cap with this

It tasted umm roasty

Actually I lie, I went 1:2.5

I was glad I had these beans, had one of my daughter’s friend’s father who was raving about the cups he had in Italy so I put away the H&S and took this out

[gaunt gulch]

Yo where is that?!?

[jaunty ice]

It’s just Jaliscos on Peachtree

[gaunt gulch]

Coffee

[nova wadi]

This was delicious @desert dawn

I wish I was better at flavor descriptors

But orange peel stuck out in my head

[jaunty ice]

As factory cools there are some great spice notes

[nova wadi]

I think I drank it too fast because it was so tasty

[cedar olive]

Standard profile being Dark AF? Or just to have as a roast that appeals to wider audience / better for wholesale?

[nova wadi]

Makes sense to have something for everyone

[gaunt gulch]

Look if you get to a point where you can't look at yourself in the mirror because of how darkly you're roasting, at least make it a huge solid gold mirror because you're selling to every single person other than us

[vocal mesa]

Lot of clove.

I got a little bit of paper, but a stewed pears thing going on with a considerable clove/cardamom finish. Perfect flavor combo for the holidays.

[vocal mesa]

I get earthiness initially with it as soup, which is probably what I mistook the paper (slight astringency) note for on V60. But those spices are singing. Felt like a dessert shot. Thank you @desert dawn.

[desert dawn]

I think they won top 100 cafes in the world. I don’t know how that list is to be valued but clearly people like them

[desert dawn]

Haha I want to try extra light and extra dark. Forget the mediums 🤣

[desert dawn]

Awesome! I’m glad it’s overall good

That coffee is borderline OTL. So it does take a lot of finesse and hopefully will get better with time. I think that’s why some are getting slapped with things they are not used to

I’m at .7-.9% WL stupid dangerous territory. Like I said extra light or extra dark 🤪

Im trying to be more mindful in future stuff and be a pinch less UL

[cedar olive]

Keep the OTL coming IMO

[vocal mesa]

I tend to buy almost exclusively UL/OTL.

Keep Sey around for comfort roast. Try new roasters via Airworks.

Sometimes swap Sey out for S&W/Hydrangea/Ceto, depending on when the green is enticing.

[desert dawn]

In an ideal situation I want to be able to offer two profiles. But I’m not there yet

I just ran the Ditting on the finest Turkish setting. 30g in 29 out

Im curious to see if when I open it up clean, change burrs etc if that will get better

But 1g on 120mm burrs I’m not mad. I thought it was going to be worse

Especially that fine

[sharp jasper]

I'll create a group chat closer to Sunday to keep track of who can come and avoid sharing my address with all of this discord.

[gaunt gulch]

Also down to meet for lunch and then coffee

[nova wadi]

Same

I’m not going to be able to make Sunday unfortunately

[gaunt gulch]

Seriously? You didn't come to the Roswell meet up and now you're skipping this one too?

[jaunty ice]

I think I will rarely be able to go to events. Unfortunately.

Had a great final cup of coffee from Substance. The bed was a bit wonky from a disruptive second pour but made me think about how my final coffee bed appearance doesn’t correlate with what’s in the cup at all.

[plush sinew]

boooo give us all your SSN

[nova wadi]

such is the life of a dad with toddlers. mom doesnt like it when I just bail on family plans mid day for some reason

https://tenor.com/view/national-lampoons-christmas-vacation-cousin-eddie-i-dont-know-beats-me-gif-15507413

[gaunt gulch]

Oh I'm just kidding! I'm only free on weekends because in laws are here

[jaunty ice]

Mine are 11 and 14 but weekend mornings are important. I’m hoping I can make it to at least one next year

[gaunt gulch]

I got 7yos and Saturday mornings are pretty inviolable for us.

[nova wadi]

I was promptly told by my wife that we had plans to take the kids to the aquarium sunday

[nova wadi]

I know I just feel bad to keep missing things haha

[jaunty ice]

My son when he was three sitting at the dinner table back when he only spoke at one volume: “WHY IS THERE NOT FOOD IN MY MOUTH RIGHT NOW‽”

[gaunt gulch]

Lol kids come with more than one volume?

Do any of y'all mess around with super low agitation recipes?

[nova wadi]

I just picked up a knock off melodrip on Amazon

[gaunt gulch]

I thought you were on a buying freeze!

Let's see it

[nova wadi]

Prior to the freeze

Was only like $12

Last one I swear

[gaunt gulch]

I just saw this recipe in the comments of this video Lumix S 28-200mm f/4-7.1 Lens

[nova wadi]

https://a.co/d/8Px5nef

Havent used it yet

[gaunt gulch]

https://youtube.com/watch?v=DOXNRuFojKM&lc=UgxfhnjgFIGr52oonit4AaABAg

1:20 seems a bit nuts even the 1:18 I sometimes do can be a bit much but I'm always up for trying something interesting

[cedar olive]

But what about the airworks ET drop though???

[nova wadi]

https://tenor.com/view/mm-vv-gif-25980967

[nova wadi]

Im so fucked haha

[nova wadi]

Im definitely going to try this today

[gaunt gulch]

Lots of people advocating for a wet wdt and fairly fine

[jaunty ice]

Only if I’m forced to use my high clarity grinder with a process focused coffee. Mostly I avoid processed or relegate them to espresso,

[jaunty ice]

I think you have to do this for Melodrip brews with washed beans. It’s part of the instructions

[cedar olive]

same here. Super inconsistent results for me

[jaunty ice]

I used a metal chopstick

The product I’m trying not to purchase right now is the pulsar mini model that’s a preorder right now. I need to just work with what I have before buying another toy.

[gaunt gulch]

Ha I've been casually doing research on how to get a valve on the bottom of the orb and an adapter to invert the water chamber to avoid buying this

[nova wadi]

I just did my best to replicate the recipe from the video and it is suuuuper light flavor wise. But it’s Shoey Halo Beriti which I find pretty light already

[nova wadi]

This is the mindset I need to adopt

I’ve been kind of out of control

Just having so much fun

[gaunt gulch]

I was going to ask about it in the hybrid brew channel but then Richard from next level posted his production update and I was like ugh not the time

[cedar olive]

lol I’m drinking shoey halo right now! Added an extra drop of APAX Jamm and ran it through the Gabi this morning and it’s signing

[cedar olive]

The beginning of the specialty coffee rabbit hole is steep

[gaunt gulch]

I don't know too much about the gabi

[cedar olive]

But relative to other hobbies, relatively inexpensive??? So more justifiable

[cedar olive]

Gabi is elite tbh

Will bring to a meet up when I can attend

H&S and thankfully use it for QC and as daily drivers

It is the easy button of coffee brewing IMO

[gaunt gulch]

Not sure what I was expecting but that shape was certainly not it lol https://a.co/d/1K3Z7t7

[cedar olive]

https://youtu.be/UcHf9hvEwlM?si=8oNKkWejwOGVq8DN

Here’s H&S talking through his recipe!

[desert dawn]

Just went last week for the start of holiday festivities. Dude it was so busy. Maybe get there early?

[plush sinew]

This guy out here being a better dad than me. I'ma take the kid to music class, drop em home for a nap (🤞), and zoom zoom my way up to derpaville.

I might even stop at Lee's Bakery on the way...

but for srs, sounds like y'all are all crushing the parenting (studies show, etc. etc.)—regular family ritual ish is v. important and good for yung brainz

coffee can come second 😛

[gaunt gulch]

I'm a Quoc huong man (or at least I was. I haven't been since we moved back to Atlanta)

[nova wadi]

With all my coffee purchases this year I need to be on my best behavior

[nova wadi]

I want one really bad

Im on a buy ban....

[plush sinew]

grew up in Decatur, so Lee's was essentially the first thing you'd see when going to buford hwy, I won't pretend like I've explored alternatives 😂

Chinese food though, that I can give y'all a whole-ass list. I know the korean cuisine is all the rage and took over the zeitgeist, but don't sleep on ATL's chinese scene. I was on Gu's before they blew up and went and did the dumpling nonsense at Krog (trust, OG eggplant > dumplings any day of the week). That mans could cook some legit, actual-chinese-food-not-american-chinese-food. We've got real dope dim sum around there, too.

[gaunt gulch]

It's right up the street

Egg rolls are better at lees

Lee's also great.

[plush sinew]

tbf i aint goin to lees for no egg rolls. gimme that half gallon of pho and two sandwiches and I'll be a beached whale for a week.

but I hear ya. maybe I'll peep quoc huong this weekend

[jaunty ice]

That was the placed to go a decade ago, that shopping center is going through same things, first flooding and now remodels.

I don’t each much banh mi since our family doesn’t eat pork so I’m usually focused on pho

[sharp jasper]

North Chinese Eatery man. That place is my jam...

Any other recs?

[jaunty ice]

I like the shops inside of Jusgo in Duluth

Tried to eat at Du Bu Gong Bang up there with my kids this past weekend but that place was packed with a long line. Must be good

[plush sinew]

Lot of folks like Royal China for dimsum, but Canton house is (again) mega-closer to my neck of the woods and is very simple and classic dim sum.
If you like Northern China, La Mei Zi is right there too, real good.

And of course always gonna stan Gu's ("Gu's Kitchen" now), but I do think it was better before they moved spots and opened multiple locations.

but truly, I think the further you get out towards/into Duluth, using the metric medikit just mentioned is best. Don't matter what the name is, if it's packed, go in, probably have a good time.

and I know the taco-spot paradigm also works going up buford — find the most ramshackle spot you can where you can smell the food being cooked and you'll have bangin tacos (knowing a modicum of spanish is often a requirement in these cases)

best tacos I've had in Atlanta were a place my brother just pulled over at. Could not for the life of me tell you where/what/who exactly.

[jaunty ice]

I think la mei zi still one of the best ITP even if it’s not as good as it was a decade ago

Definitely worth checking out

[sharp jasper]

Yeah since moving to ATL 2 years ago, the food has been a great surprise. I lived my whole life prior to that in Central FL in the shadow of Mickey Mouse, where chains were king. TGI Fridays, Olive Garden, Red Lobster, etc. Was the majority of the stuff. Here they are rare in comparison and I love it!

[jaunty ice]

Tacos I recommend Buford hwy farmer market for convenience, el Rey del taco for chips/salsa and fresh tortillas carne asada flavor not quite it. My favorite nearby is in a gas station called lil kikos- what they do well is their salsa for using on the tacos-reminds me of the taco trucks we had back home

I like ginya izakaya in buckhead and shoya izakaya in doraville for traditional Japanese food

Ms gogi for itp kbbq and shabu shabu 9292 for otp kbbq

[nova wadi]

Has anyone in here been to Stonebowl? Korean restaurant on Buford Hwy

[jaunty ice]

Stone bowl house was a regular spot for us but go less frequently now. Good food

[sharp jasper]

Yeah it's a solid spot. I like it.

[gaunt gulch]

Stone bowl was great

[jaunty ice]

10 years between those photos

[gaunt gulch]

I've been going to han il lwan for what seems like forever (hae won dae before that)

[nova wadi]

Awww

[gaunt gulch]

Ha

[nova wadi]

I love Stonebowl sm

I havent been in far too long

[gaunt gulch]

My boys chop stick game really needs some work tbh

[jaunty ice]

I only have whiteboy advice but as a dad I would just keep them available at arms length if they want them

[gaunt gulch]

Oh I straight up bribe them. You can eat as many frozen blueberries as you can pick up with chop sticks.

Oh yet tuh! For non-kbbq. So good!

@jaunty ice you said your wife is Taiwanese?

[gaunt gulch]

I'm going to have to try lol kikos. That looks awesome

[jaunty ice]

I didn’t say it (I think?) but you guessed it

[gaunt gulch]

You mentioned that you were there to visit in laws so I kinda narrowed it down

[jaunty ice]

Meat quality is okay, wish the tortillas were fresh but it’s solid and imho salsa for the tacos is the best out there

[plush sinew]

o o f, the feels. I gotta tell my kid to stop growing up, I don't think i'll survive looking at ten-years-apart photos

[jaunty ice]

Oldest turning 14 this month 😭

[nova wadi]

Dude for real, just looking at pictures of my 3 year old from 2 years ago is like a shot to the gut

[gaunt gulch]

I need to find a good tortilleria. There was a place in California where I'd pick up a fat stack and a huge bag of their tortilla chips. Ugh

[gaunt gulch]

The Google photo memories thing messes me up like multiple times a month.

Sounds like we got a lot of similar ages. Maybe we need to organize a family day where we make coffee in the parking lol lol

[jaunty ice]

I use the fresh tortillas from Buford hwy when I eat leftover tacos

[jaunty ice]

I was thinking this

[gaunt gulch]

Get one of the big rooms at kbbq lol

I'm hungry now lol

[cedar olive]

I have a 3 week old so imagining him to be anything other than what he is right now is hard lol. But I know it will go by so fast!

[gaunt gulch]

Oh that's awesome!

[jaunty ice]

As soon as you get used to a routine they change the game

And then once they start socializing they are sick twice a month and you get half of those infections

[plush sinew]

😳 hide yo keys, that learner's permit is a-comin!

[gaunt gulch]

Man isn't that the truth

[nova wadi]

It is truly soul crushing when the sure fire sleep trick suddenly stops working

[nova wadi]

I feel like I was sick for the whole first year my oldest was in daycare

Now I think my immune system has gotten stronger

[cedar olive]

So much to look forward to!!!

[jaunty ice]

Man I’m so afraid of learning in this city. You know my wife doesn’t drive on any of the highways here, didn’t learn how to drive until late 20s

[nova wadi]

Maybe it'll make them an amazing driver having to learn on hard mode

[plush sinew]

literally just finished having one of the worst flus of my life right before txgiving. idk how these 1yr olds are so viral.

[plush sinew]

unfortunately, statistics in this godawful city suggest the opposite.

presumably if medikit is a decent driver, those skills will (attemptedly) be passed on, but most people are bad drivers, US driving training is a joke.

the fact we let em on the roads at 15/16 being part of the problem to begin with

[jaunty ice]

I struggle not looking at discord while driving so I’m going to say I’m not great and could be better. I wish the bus system was better I would prefer not driving.

@gaunt gulch are you ready to see my 2019 bolt EV

[gaunt gulch]

Nooooooo!

Is that recent?

[jaunty ice]

No it was on i20 6 months after I bought it, an old suburban merged in front of me and then slammed on the breaks and I couldn’t stop in time

[nova wadi]

Don’t get me started on public transportation

The train system in Munich made me so upset

https://tenor.com/view/crying-fun-gif-2280116530830726839

[jaunty ice]

I loved the transit system in Paris and we were in Toronto in August and it may not be the best but it was miles better than most us cities - I loved it and the food too

[nova wadi]

I was born here so I have an undying loyalty to this city but damn does it piss me off

[jaunty ice]

Also had a nice cup

[jaunty ice]

Oh man an OG. Only our son can claim Atlanta like that

[nova wadi]

My daughter was born in the same hospital as I was. Kinda neat

[plush sinew]

Vienna. 5 subway lines, 250km of streetcar lines. 150 bus lines.

[gaunt gulch]

Paris Metro was amazing!

[plush sinew]

cost for a ticket (which includes subway->bus transfers, etc.)? $4.
Annual cost? $500/yr.

[vocal mesa]

Vienna is fun. Golden Triangle was a blast.

[plush sinew]

Marta? $1200 for an annual pass.

Vienna's my favorite city in the world and it ain't even close.

(sorry to all the cities I haven't visited yet)

(But not you, Melbourne, fricc you)

[vocal mesa]

Amsterdam, Brussels, Ghent, Bruges, Paris, all so easy for public transit.

[plush sinew]

gonna get heated talking about US transit.

https://tenor.com/view/woosah-ears-relax-bad-boy-ii-martin-lawrence-gif-16390662

[vocal mesa]

Mine is probably Haarlem, followed by Siena, then Prague. LOVE Vienna though.

[gaunt gulch]

I'm loving this chat by the way lol

[jaunty ice]

2 min headways at one station

[plush sinew]

Florence and Siena on my list for sure. Never been to Italy. Someday... Prague's dope, budapest, bratislava. eastern europe definitely on the up. great places to tourist at these days.

[jaunty ice]

You guys hav etraveled more than me but all cities I want to visit

[gaunt gulch]

I'll see if I can find it but Paris meteo sent out some old cars and it was fun to see normal blasé Parisian so excited

[jaunty ice]

Alright I think I’m going to make it home in time for another cup.

[cedar olive]

Both Florence and Siena are stunning. Have loads of Florence recs if you make it there

[nova wadi]

Fell in love with Florence

[gaunt gulch]

@nova wadi did you try that low agitation high ratio?

[cedar olive]

Budapest is a highly slept on Central/Eastern euro city as well

[nova wadi]

I want to move to Florence

[cedar olive]

I spent 6 months on a project in Bratislava Slovakia and visited a ton of surrounding Central/Eastern Euro countries. Beautiful cities there

[gaunt gulch]

A joke I would say to one of my best friends from Genoa: Italy is a beautiful country, with amazing food, and culture to celebrate. Only problem... Filled with Italians

[nova wadi]

Lmao I had a blast throwing out Italian phrases

[nova wadi]

I’ve heard great things

[vocal mesa]

Same. Perfect Tuscan base camp. Turns into magical place at sunset when the day travelers depart.

[nova wadi]

EAF Atlanta European meetup when?

[plush sinew]

bitte, come to Wien, I will take you to all the christmas markets and coffee shops 😛

[nova wadi]

It’s been popping! Glad we got this setup

[jaunty ice]

I’ll be brewing in Taipei at the end of CNY. Will be testing the water as soon as I arrive 😂

Bought a second ORB to bring

[gaunt gulch]

If you head to the wafo shop let me know lol

[nova wadi]

#1436385688634261536 message

[jaunty ice]

That’s the fancy basket place right

[gaunt gulch]

I've been wanting that stupid leaf but can't bring myself to pay double in shipping

[gaunt gulch]

Fancy everything I think lol

[jaunty ice]

I went to Lin’s to buy a cup last December and then dropped an shattered it this summer

Blooming

[desert dawn]

It gets worse when they start school. You just stay sick

[gaunt gulch]

That's why I drink my coke by putting my mouth straight on the nozzle.

[desert dawn]

Yall are popping off today. So many msgs

[jaunty ice]

Factory cooled down and it’s so much flavor

Ginger and orange soda I agree, grapefruit as an aftertaste for me, good cup

[desert dawn]

Ha I just DMed him this too.

Also try Huy sandwiches off Jimmy

[desert dawn]

Are you single.

[gaunt gulch]

@desert dawn my guju mom made us a big batch of dal dhokani. Did your wife grow up eating this too?

[desert dawn]

The pasta looking stuff?

[jaunty ice]

why do you ask

[desert dawn]

You got half a kitchen for coffee stuff

They either really love you or are sick of you

[jaunty ice]

We bought this ikea island for our kitchen we first moved to Atlanta and it followed us around for several moves now

[desert dawn]

Is it next to your regular island ? Cause your island looks really big to be following you around ?

[desert dawn]

Ahh I see. Nice!!!

[gaunt gulch]

Yes

[desert dawn]

I have a small galley kitchen. So very limited counter top space. I ended up putting in a second cabinet set in the dining area

[jaunty ice]

The p80 gonna really cramp my space though

[gaunt gulch]

Oh yeah when's that arriving??

[jaunty ice]

Mid to late November… 😆

[desert dawn]

Grandma made it for my kids when they were sick a couple weeks ago. I like that dish

[gaunt gulch]

Perfect! I'm really looking to hear about it a week ago now

[jaunty ice]

I haven’t heard anything and I see less people posting photos, I think they may have slowed down deliveries but haven’t heard anything. US orders also receiving a touch late I think.

[sharp jasper]

Can we talk about your stove? Gahhhhh damn!

I'm jealous

[desert dawn]

Fo real. Tell me someone cooks on it

[jaunty ice]

It’s good but I wish the burners were different sizes, its massive flames for all of them

[jaunty ice]

My wife is the chef

[gaunt gulch]

Time to get some big old thick slabs of stainless steel and get yourself a little French cooktop going

[desert dawn]

I got kicked out of my kitchen and I’m the chef in the house

[jaunty ice]

And yes it’s her kitchen and she loves me so that’s why I have a little island and even letting me out the gaggia on a counter. It helps that she likes my coffee

[sharp jasper]

Ive moved out of the kitchen and into a husky toolbox

[jaunty ice]

Wow that’s pretty decent

[sharp jasper]

Heyoooo

[desert dawn]

What’s a bean seeker

[gaunt gulch]

👏

[jaunty ice]

Df83v with a slow feeder. What burrs?

[sharp jasper]

It's a slow drip cold brew maker. This picture is old and it's moved to my office admittedly

[gaunt gulch]

VR coffee maker.

[sharp jasper]

But it makes solid cold brew, slow drip. It just makes annoyingly small batches

[sharp jasper]

Stock dlc

[jaunty ice]

I actually preferred my stock df64g2 burrs for espresso over the ssp options

[sharp jasper]

They are well seasoned at this point, and I like the espresso it makes a lot.

The slow feeder does slow my workflow a bit. And makes a racket. But i found there was more variability of the shot time otherwise.

[gaunt gulch]

I don't think my stock burrs have even been in my grinder

In my house anyway

[sharp jasper]

What's y'all's end game grinder?

Ive been eyeing the SDRM

[jaunty ice]

Yes if I manually slow fed it made shots totally unpredictable so I just did hot start dumps

[sharp jasper]

Texture and flavor separation? 🤤

[sharp jasper]

Hmm that's weird... I wonder why it is opposite for me

I run at 600rpm

[jaunty ice]

I think df64 is 1700 rpm nm its 1400

[sharp jasper]

What do you use the F58 for?

[jaunty ice]

That’s my main

[sharp jasper]

That is what i had before the decent. Loved that thing

[jaunty ice]

I’m going to upgrade the screen on the gaggia that will allow it to work with Bluetooth scales and allow me to add different profiles

[sharp jasper]

Gotcha

[jaunty ice]

Right now the gaggia is out because I suck at steaming milk and trying to learn. I’m getting there. My workflow was microwaving and transferring then use a handheld frother. It was nice because no drop of milk was wasted

[gaunt gulch]

It was at one time the flat max. i don't know why I'm drawn to kafatek, but I'm not sure now

[gaunt gulch]

Like a gaggiuino?

[nova wadi]

Very nice!

I have a tiny little part of the kitchen

[sharp jasper]

What made you change your mind??

[jaunty ice]

I don't know but it keeps changing. I don't like to use the term "end game". I don't think I believe in a perfect grinder anymore. There are a lot of grinders that I've wanted and now I'm glad I didn't buy them.

I am simultaneously annoyed and enthralled at how important a grinder can be. And I wonder how much of my grinder focus is also a lack of skill/experience to work around the grinder's presentation

[gaunt gulch]

I told myself I'd wait until I finished restoring my cremina. Then I'd have the flat max for espresso and update my df64 for pour over. But I'm still trying to educate myself on what I want in a soup grind/distribution and if it's more a pour over style grind then maybe I'd flip but again despite just needing to reassemble the cremina I'm a long way from being there apparently. And I still don't quite understand how a soup brews to make that decision yet

[gaunt gulch]

This as well

[jaunty ice]

If I still had my df I would be interested in fiorenzato's burrs, modifying the bottom carrier for the probrew a more exact pietro geometry that appears to exist

#grinders message

[desert dawn]

My space changes constantly based on what I’m testing or what eq I want to pull out

[jaunty ice]

I should rethink the way I have things plugged in

I like how you've set up the wall attachment

[gaunt gulch]

I'm not familiar. I'll have to look into it

[desert dawn]

End game grinder… I don’t want one. I want min two and a travel hand grinder.

[desert dawn]

Me?

[gaunt gulch]

Yeah I like that plug too

[jaunty ice]

you have to take off about 0.5 or 1mm off your lower burr carrier to make it work and not sure what it will be like at 1400 rpm

[desert dawn]

My space on a daily is a hot mess. You don’t see the 3-4kg and multiple cups that cover the counter from all the sh!t I’m doing

[jaunty ice]

These were on sale for 150 or so for BF and are in stock periodically. https://www.espressoparts.com/products/fiorenzato-allground-dark-t-burr-set-with-shim-64mm

dimensions are similar to i200d

[gaunt gulch]

I'm way out of date on burrs so I will have to do some research on that set. Can you give me a tldr?

[desert dawn]

I am kicking myself for only adding two outlets on the wall

https://a.co/d/5QQM2FG

I bought them back in 2021 maybe by now there is better

[jaunty ice]

Yes. Not many have tried these. The Allground ProBrews come with their $1200 grinder but the design isn't great for single dosing so can't recommend. in #grinders a user noticed that the geometry was similar to pietro (2 sections instead of 4), this was back in July when Espresso Outlet had another sale

Labasura and big black cook had been posting about their experiences with their Shardors and both jumped on this burr and used sand paper while turning off the safety when their burrs came later that week

Neither had pietro but they preferred to UMV1. More recently ODD put these in a shardor and then a df64v and compared to an electrictrified pietro he built. He prefers these

[nova wadi]

Just had to do a double take

[jaunty ice]

DanielC tried to buy these but Espresso Outlet sent him the wrong burr (espresso), He is using a hand held 64mm ling long grinder. This is being fixed and apparently he is actually getting a 4 section grinder which should be more similar to pietro

I've been following because I couldn't find a 64mm burr that I liked for filter so obviously these are game changers.

and as discussed above maybe I'm relying on a grinder to fix a skill issue.

[jaunty ice]

yeah I think I'm going to do this. Might make things cleaner. Oh right I didn't do this because I wanted my kettle to be plugged in directly.

[desert dawn]

If you had them you can do doubles

2 gang boxes for 2

[cedar olive]

After 3 years of tinkering, I’ve kinda found that I want to have a set up that consistently delivers a good cup of coffee with as minimal tinkering as possible lol. I feel like you can always be chasing a better cup of coffee, but I’ve finally settled at being okay with getting 80-90% optimal extraction / taste consistently with the A4Z. I will say, though, I’m excited to get the QAir for Christmas as a travel grinder + alternative heptagonal burr profile that will hopefully compliment the A4Z

And then just use all of my discretionary coffee money to buy coffee lol

[desert dawn]

I don’t chase good cups anymore. I drink more bad coffee now than ever. I’m constantly tasting all my kool aid. The good stuff I have to give to others

[jaunty ice]

I'll be interested in what you think about the qair, I'm going to travel with the A4z in it's carrying case for now. I love how the A4z is quiet and doesn't need to be plugged in

[cedar olive]

A4Z is heavy but I do plan to travel with the A4Z as well

[jaunty ice]

shoey and bk were talking about how their taste is being impacted by the beans they prefer not to sell for QC reasons

[desert dawn]

Big time.

I taste green and vegetal and first I’m like oh this is nice

Also with the eg1 I can push a cup a lot harder without hitting astringency. So now I’m trying to remember to use the Ode

[jaunty ice]

which burrs in your eg1, core?

[desert dawn]

ULF

[jaunty ice]

ah

I wish I asked about their eg1 at Tanat, didn't want to be that guy but I am. I am that guy

https://www.instagram.com/p/DO6MPLgEaq0/

kimoi.coffee

Which have you been guilty of asking at a shop?

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[desert dawn]

It’s like ohhh green vegetal this is complex. Then it cools completely and I’m like 🤦‍♂️

[desert dawn]

I doubt they run core burrs

[jaunty ice]

best coffee shop coffee i've had but admittedly haven't gone to too many specialty shops

[cedar olive]

People always ask me “what’s your favorite coffee shop in ATL” to which I painfully reply “my home”

I too don’t frequent many specialty shops because I spend too much on coffee to justify going elsewhere. It helps that the specialty coffee scene in ATL isn’t that impressive

But to the earlier sentiment shared, I’m really glad this group formed. Been hoping to connect with fellow coffee nerds in ATL, so this has been fun for me. Excited for when I can attend a meet up!

[gaunt gulch]

I'm adding under cabinet strips. Could very easily do that with yours as well

[desert dawn]

Shops currently are over rated. But man it’s brutal when you have to compete at 5-10$ /cup

[desert dawn]

Yes, agree. I was just saying I really want under cabinet lighting

My eyes is old man

[gaunt gulch]

Ok I'm with you I stepped away for the chat for like 40 minutes and it's a lot to go back through

[gaunt gulch]

Both!

[gaunt gulch]

...

[gaunt gulch]

Ha I was asking Ben at belux about water yesterday 🤦‍♂️

[jaunty ice]

https://youtu.be/OXYndNL4Mu8?si=RA5fEVIxBx1dViV3&t=18

[gaunt gulch]

Very heartily agree

[desert dawn]

But then they would revoke my membership to almost done construction LLC….

[desert dawn]

Ya but you have to understand I brew 10-20 cups a day testing things. I drink 1-3 sips from each of them depending on how good or bad they are

[gaunt gulch]

We seem to have a lot of similar people in here so I'm going to guess based on my own home that there are more than one areas that can be worked on after

[desert dawn]

The whole house.

[jaunty ice]

That's work man

[gaunt gulch]

Oh I meant as the recipient of some good stuff

[desert dawn]

I got plywood counter tops in some places for the past 5-10 years

[gaunt gulch]

Nothing more permanent than a temporary solution that works

[desert dawn]

My wife hates it. But she also hates the work the “professionals” do too…: sooooooo ya

Oh look I forgot. More coffee

[desert dawn]

Agree! It’s nice to see the community growing

[gaunt gulch]

Here's my little section

Not pictured my cremina

Oh ha for this group I won't crop out the temp mini battlestation I set up for my mil.

[vocal mesa]

This is kind of where I was with adding the 078 to my ZP6. Hopefully, it is a good combo for PO/Soup.

[jaunty ice]

If my mother is in town it's Peet's major dickason's

[jaunty ice]

You gotta make her some soup

[vocal mesa]

Following that made my head hurt. As someone with zero burr carrier mod/sanding/grinding/shim experience, I did not want to pull the trigger on Pro Brews and then end up in alignment hell.

I considered A4Z, 078, and Shardor/Pro Brews.

[jaunty ice]

I think I hit the major bullet points

[vocal mesa]

You did.

[jaunty ice]

If you look back you just see me in the background rooting for everyone like a cheerleader while I keep adding the velpro 400 to my aliexpress cart and then decide it's not worth it like you did

[gaunt gulch]

It was this or a keurig and I told her I would make it for her instead of a Keurig so that's what we've been doing for 8 years

[gaunt gulch]

I tried but the beans that were too dark for me were not dark enough for her

[vocal mesa]

I would have just brought everything to a meetup and asked one of you to make it work.

[jaunty ice]

No you just give her the best soup you can make as you like it and have her try it.

[gaunt gulch]

So now here's where I cheer you on so we can play with it lol

[jaunty ice]

Dark roast is not for soup just as light roast is not for trad Boomer spro

[gaunt gulch]

I'm not even sure her brain would compute it.

[jaunty ice]

My FIL is super into tea so light roast filter was easy. Next visit I’m going to be souping and see what he thinks

[gaunt gulch]

The oxo 9 cups is 1300ml. If you really want to hurt yourself you can zoom in on my picture and see the dose she likes for 1300ml

[gaunt gulch]

Nice

[jaunty ice]

In this photo: metro Atlanta as seen by the majority that live here

[gaunt gulch]

Did you put some burnt lume in there ?

[desert dawn]

No it’s tea 🙃

My wife got the eggnog latte. How do you think that went

[gaunt gulch]

anyone who knows Atlanta knows that there's too many pot holes to do that not for ig

I'm not going to lie I've always wanted a clover for home

[jaunty ice]

I took care of a dude who wrecked his leg on an electric scooter on Hosea Williams. What I didn’t share is that I lived at that time two blocks away and was always dodging that massive hole in the ground.

[vocal mesa]

I am the old. Mine are 20 and 18.

Oldest finishing up junior midterms at UGA

[jaunty ice]

And here I thought I was the older one.

[jaunty ice]

Wishing them luck

[jaunty ice]

I saw the video on this, very cool system

[gaunt gulch]

That Hoffman one on the v60?

[gaunt gulch]

What kind of medicine are you in?

[jaunty ice]

Yep, that’s the one

Infectious diseases

[desert dawn]

At Emory? Or

[gaunt gulch]

That was such a wild video for me. I remember hearing about the clover before Sbux bought them, and then my wife worked for them when they started rolling them out so I used to get to sorta play with it, right as I was getting into specialty coffee and having that video put so many pieces that I hadn't connected but lived through was wild

[jaunty ice]

I trained there, it brought me to Atlanta, but I've been at Piedmont for over a decade now

[jaunty ice]

You've been at this for a while then

[gaunt gulch]

A bit but my involvement has ebbed and flowed.

I have some fun stuff like a nel pot I had to have a buddy send to me from Japan when I read about it in James Freeman's book in like 2013 or something?

[jaunty ice]

I'm a newb. I switched from diet soda as a source of caffeine to coffee. Lived near radio roasters and relied on them for years. Mainly just brewed with a french press until I started playing around with the concentration and realized I needed some actual pressure

[gaunt gulch]

And now I'm mining your research!

[jaunty ice]

Without understanding espresso much it was suggested I consider the meticulous kickstarter (in 2023) and then the flair went on sale for black friday and I realized it was just a manual meticulous. Turns out that's backwards but that sold it to me

[gaunt gulch]

That's awesome

[desert dawn]

We found out last month they sold earlier this year

[jaunty ice]

Clover?

[desert dawn]

Radio

[jaunty ice]

I took my longest vacation in recent memory (2.5 weeks or so) last year and used that time to learn the v60, bought a zp6 and K ultra from physical 1zpresso store. I think I was held back by my water but it was a good experience overall. Now I only make one espresso a day

[jaunty ice]

Ohh, I didn't know they sold. That explains why they've had so few options this year

I bought a natural pink bourbon from radio roaster October 2023 that changed everything for me

[desert dawn]

We didn’t either. I messaged their head roaster saying we were stopping by and he said he left and that they sold

[jaunty ice]

Hope he’s doing okay

[desert dawn]

Wait you were not dialing in coffee before? Zp6 very unforgiving

[jaunty ice]

Gonna eat will get back but maxwheel helped me

[desert dawn]

I haven’t had much pink bourbon, but i got my eyes out for it

[desert dawn]

He’s a barista now at Daily Chew. He didn’t get along with the new owner

[gaunt gulch]

I wonder if he's been able to exert any influence. He wasn't there when we went and the coffee was quite developed

[desert dawn]

Not sure. It sounded more part time?

He said he’s “kinda on bar” at daily chew

[gaunt gulch]

Ah makes sense.

[desert dawn]

Coffee honestly doesn’t pay well. Not career-able

But on the flip side most shops don’t make much. Margins are small so most shops skimp

[jaunty ice]

I think dialing in espresso is straight forward but for filter this was really tough. I ended up at 4.5 on zp6 and 6.5 on k ultra and I just kind of stayed there. For the most part I hadn’t found changing my grind setting to be that beneficial once I find what I like and mostly focus on grinder, brew temp, ratio, and v60 vs kalita wave.

[gaunt gulch]

Were you using the zp6 for espresso?

[jaunty ice]

No, just soup/filter

Df64 gen2 was my primary grinder and then zp6 became main for filter

[jaunty ice]

If you notice on the photo they spelled bourbon wrong so i was pronouncing it wrong

I like this one for espresso but very different than that radio roaster I tried in 23

[desert dawn]

Sometimes I wonder about spelling but then I think well this stuff is from other countries so it could be their way

Also Im terrible at spelling

[plush sinew]

feel like this is what I'm doing with my 078s. Using JMax for ORBs, though haven't got it dialed right either atm... I guess what I'm saying is I'm just making ass coffee no matter what.

but the real fun is the beans we grind along the way

[desert dawn]

Or your coffee is better than you think

[sharp jasper]

So have any of yall bourbon junkies been to the tours offered at the local distilleries?

I just had a bourbon night with a buddy who had an old fiddler wheater and short barrel hazmat honey finished single barrel. Both were solid.

[desert dawn]

I have not. I feel like I heard some good things

[nova wadi]

Oh man Zo got a profile pic

@gaunt gulch you’re next

My tiny little coffee nook

Yes I like Prodigal

[gaunt gulch]

I like your drying mat

[gaunt gulch]

I have one

[jaunty ice]

Making Frankenbean soup

[jaunty ice]

Me too 👍

Two different Ethiopian beans and the last of my Nancy Mendoza gesha tasting pretty solid.

[sharp jasper]

Okay, roll call time, who can make tomorrow at 11ish am, Doraville area?

Also, I'll have a Publix Carrot cake. One of my favorite coffee pairings.

Cause who doesn't want a sugar rush with too much caffeine?

[desert dawn]

Me

[nova wadi]

No me I’m afraid. Rest assured I’ll be having major fomo

[desert dawn]

I bought the ZP6 after the Niche to try the different flavor profile I was seeking. Boy did I struggle on PO. I was not active in EAF then - worked crazy hours 6-7 days a week. This is also when all the highly processed stuff was becoming popular but info was lacking to me causing more confusion.

After sometime I went to go visit Davy at Now and Then again. Turned out my cups were good. I was in my head about them not being perfect

[desert dawn]

Yin and yang is it because I can go??

[gaunt gulch]

I am in

[desert dawn]

I feel like I have the same thing but in gray? I don’t know how to describe the material

[jaunty ice]

Yes. I was making coffee I brought from prodigal and H&S but everything tasted bland. Made something we liked but flavors really improved when we returned home so I’m going to bring some strips and a TDS meter this trip. I think I definitely was traumatized to the point I’m afraid to adjust the grind setting for filter.

[desert dawn]

Not changing grind size is the Bana way

[desert dawn]

Strips?

[nova wadi]

Exactly

[desert dawn]

Real life

Was working on the Aiden last night to make a concentrated brew

[jaunty ice]

Just water testing strips can pick up things like chlorine and estimate HCO3 and hardness

[desert dawn]

Ooo

[jaunty ice]

The range isn’t super helpful for dialing water but I think it will help me exclude it vs oh I’m actually working with distilled and didn’t know it

[sharp jasper]

@nova wadi costco perimeter has OESO 4R barrel strength for $68.99

[nova wadi]

Oh man

Going to the SEC Championship today

[cedar olive]

Wiggles - we are frienemies today

[nova wadi]

Tide brother

We’re super banged up so I’m not feeling super confident

[jaunty ice]

On sports team vs sports team days it helps to be Californian.

Made my wife FP the way she likes it with cayenne and other spices from YDFM (cinnamon added after photo taken)

[desert dawn]

I was born in Torrance

[desert dawn]

Wait what is this? Looks great

[jaunty ice]

Chico, north of Sacramento.

[desert dawn]

I was in Monterey in October. I miss the west coast. I can actually breathe there. I hate Ga allergies humidity etc

[cedar olive]

UGA is cursed against bama so I’m not feeling super confident. I got meme’d at the 2018 natty when Tua came in and took over the game.

[nova wadi]

Yall got your revenge though

[desert dawn]

Let us test the yin and yang theory. Lord please bring ith the pain to Bama

[jaunty ice]

33g of coffee with 3 cardamom pods, 1 clove, fresh ground nutmeg, and cayenne pepper waiting for cinnamon and 425 mL of water. It’s based on a recipe for Moroccan coffee but I’ve made some changes. For our taste needs sugar and milk.

[desert dawn]

What do you brew in?

Sounds like one of those Turkish style coffees or Indian coffees that would be basically espresso strength

[jaunty ice]

Opposite end, French press. My wife often craves a big cup of coffee with some milk and sugar and she also loves masala chai.

I started with this recipe but removed the salt, black pepper and ground ginger and adjusted so its one big mig on weekends/holidays. https://www.thehungrytravelerblog.com/moroccan-spiced-coffee-recipe/

Honestly if I made a solid cup of chai I think we would both like it better

[desert dawn]

I think myself and @gaunt gulch could help you make chai

[gaunt gulch]

Chai off?

[desert dawn]

Haha

Bet

[gaunt gulch]

Lol my chai is so tailored to my wife

[jaunty ice]

I mean that would be my goal but um my wife

[desert dawn]

https://a.co/d/9E9qS4a

[gaunt gulch]

But my Indian aunties said it was better than SOME of theirs so I'll take it as a win

[desert dawn]

Chai should be personalized. It’s all about love and sharing that bliss

[desert dawn]

Huge win!!!!

[gaunt gulch]

If you can go to ydkfm I would stop by Patel brothers where that same 1 lb bag is like 5 bucks.

[desert dawn]

https://a.co/d/9E9qS4a

[jaunty ice]

Is this good black tea for if?

[gaunt gulch]

If I can get my crap together I could put together a sketchy baggie for you @jaunty ice and drop off it by the hospital

[desert dawn]

Sorry yes

[gaunt gulch]

@jaunty ice you ever had a fancy version of a nostalgic family dish that didn't quite hit right?

[desert dawn]

You want CTC chai. It’s dried chopped bold robust assam tea usually.

This another great avenue for getting Indian spices, tea, etc
https://www.diasporaco.com/?srsltid=AfmBOoozz3zg8_1ykAUp5ii4IkoV7zxS-roFavzDlVsL8-sXjE4ZJR0r

Unfortunately not all Indian stores are created equal. In Atlanta you want Patel brothers or something with high turn over to get fresh ingredients.

If you want Indian produce you want Cherians in Decatur

Not really Indian produce but common things that would be used

[gaunt gulch]

You need an Ctc chai, but I bought a couple fancy tea versions: harney and sons and some other place was recommended, and all my Indian aunties did not like them as much as wagh bakri so I stopped fighting it

[jaunty ice]

Alright that helps I see it’s hand picked.

My FIL is obsessed with tea which is intimidating

[gaunt gulch]

Ha to be fair a lot of them only make it for their husbands and don't like chai themselves so there's not the same amount of investment

[jaunty ice]

Just gotta make something for my wife though.

[desert dawn]

Wait what. What do they drink

[gaunt gulch]

Like herbal teas or water (but obviously not while eating lol)

[desert dawn]

I tried the fancy route too. Didn’t work. Nothing was bold enough even when increasing dose.

Dispora does a lot of traceable single origin stuff so she will be my next purchase for chai

[desert dawn]

Interesting.

[gaunt gulch]

A lot of them grew up in Kenya/other areas of Africa so not sure if that has anything to do with it

[desert dawn]

There is an old video of chef meherwan from Covid making chai. It’s basically what I do. I’ll try to find it

[desert dawn]

Def changes things. My friend who grew up in Africa like lemongrass in it

[gaunt gulch]

So the masala they use they have like shipped over from a person in Nairobi.

[desert dawn]

He is very specific about his. I did enjoy it. He was shocked but I’m open to trying new things

[gaunt gulch]

I think the reason that some of them liked mine better is that it just wasn't a super old spice mix

[jaunty ice]

Yeah I think we might shift over to diaspora from spacewalla for spices too.

[gaunt gulch]

Yes!

[gaunt gulch]

I pretty much get all my spices at YDK FM at this point

[desert dawn]

Ya spicewalla is from chai Pani I think. I believe it’s their company or they use it.

[gaunt gulch]

The Indian auntie that I keep trying to get to show me how to make her chai that is collectively known as the best does drink chai btw

[desert dawn]

They don’t share. I don’t get it.

https://youtu.be/ddSURECXRF4?si=C7fwfLwlcos-7FTX

He owns spicewalla and chai pani

[jaunty ice]

On the rare occasion that we visit ydfm I try to turn it into a chai pani buffet trip. Wish their fish was better,

[desert dawn]

The fried catfish?

I thought it was very tender. But I would really like a grilled tandoori option. Could be whole fish or whatever

[jaunty ice]

The fried fish is too dry and probably would go with a less fishy fish 😆. fried anything kinda difficult to leave out like that.

I’m not a butter chicken fan either. I’m there for dal and if they have it some chana

[desert dawn]

Oh no. Mine wasn’t dry.

Ya I don’t order butter chicken. Daal, one of the lamb curries, all the chaat style things. Their vada pav sandwich is actually very impressive for being outside of India

Wait

I should say or so I hear lol

[jaunty ice]

Ag yeah I’m talking about buffet. Buffet is ideal because my kids can pick out what they want

[desert dawn]

I noticed you said that…. When is the buffet??

[jaunty ice]

But fried food not great for buffet

[jaunty ice]

Lunch. They waited for us to move from oakhurst to Buckhead before adding buffet

All you can drink chai

[desert dawn]

Sweet. From Lawrenceville by the time I get down there it’s usually dinner

But I want to try it

[jaunty ice]

Kids expect mango lassi there like it’s a birthright

[gaunt gulch]

Hahaha

[jaunty ice]

Word. We went to lawrenceville to a solid Pakistani restaurant for dinner

[desert dawn]

My daughter expects mango lassi and the okra chips

[desert dawn]

What. Which one

My wife loves taqueria del sol across the street. If it wasn’t for work we would have moved to Decatur sq

[jaunty ice]

Mughals in 2022

[desert dawn]

My dad is a frequent flier there

Kebab rolls baby

[jaunty ice]

I think their salsa verde is excellent.

[desert dawn]

Agree

Guac or cheese dip + $1 to add salsa

Ooo when I was eating spicier their Valentina based hot sauce. But it’s off menu

[jaunty ice]

If you go to the one on Cheshire bridge rd and order chicken before noon the texture is way off and often lukewarm at taqueria. I think they microwave defrost it

Decatur is probably the best location

[desert dawn]

Oh that sucks! I agree Decatur is their best.

[jaunty ice]

Decatur was my California away from home

[desert dawn]

Maybe that’s why I like it

[jaunty ice]

I miss it but not the drive.

[desert dawn]

I lived off North druid hills for a while so it wasnt bad

[jaunty ice]

Ideal place honestly. Used to live next to the Va hospital and when my parents moved here they were near echo lake

@desert dawn are you a fan of Los Hermanos in Tucker?

[nova wadi]

I loved my time there

[desert dawn]

I agree. Could go anywhere and be central. And of course we had 3 Starbucks, in less than 1 mile.

[desert dawn]

Their family

No seriously lol

[jaunty ice]

Really?

I don’t get to go often but it’s a regular for my wife’s colleagues since they worked near there

[desert dawn]

Their son is married to my cousin. My little cousin is more like my sister

The newer killian hill location or?

My mom and her three brothers we were next neighbors till I moved to college

[jaunty ice]

The one near the Davita dialysis center. This one is hugh Howell but they’ve expanded and are even up 400 now

[desert dawn]

Ah got it

My uncle convinced them to buy the Boston market that went under on Killian hill/29 to build their new location.

They were already in that shopping center now they turned the old one into an Italian restaurant called le sorelle

The 3 brothers/hermanos actually got their start in California in Italian kitchens

[jaunty ice]

I didn’t know they expanded up NE

Oh that’s awesome

[desert dawn]

They live in lilburn. So they have lilburn and sugarloaf

[jaunty ice]

And I think that helps explain why I like it

[desert dawn]

Boy let me tell you. That wedding was lit.

[jaunty ice]

I bet!!

[desert dawn]

They have a tradition of walking around pouring tequila down your throat. They hired a Mexican band that brought speakers the size of Honda civics inside.

It was nuts. We sat down for dinner they got up to dance. We joined. The rest was history

[jaunty ice]

God that sounds awesome. The Persian families we invited saved our wedding, no fear and a profound love of dancing.

[desert dawn]

If you like traditional taquerias in between lilburn and Hugh Howell is taqueria San pacho which is fantastic too

I’m not kidding about the speakers. Pretty sure if it wasn’t for the tequila my heart would have been off beat

[desert dawn]

Are you or your wife Persian

[jaunty ice]

No just some friends of the family. My wife was born in Jeddah and grew up in Riyadh- so her family has some appreciation for middle eastern culture though certainly different from Iran.

[desert dawn]

Ahh ok

My mom was just in Saudi

[jaunty ice]

My wife has been trying to find chicken shawarmas like she had growing up. Explored a lot of restaurants in Paris in October ended up learning about Kurdish food (definitely different).

[gaunt gulch]

Not shawarma but tell me you went to l'as du fallafel in Paris?

[desert dawn]

I don’t think Atlanta has great shawarma or reps the Arab culture at all. I had some great stuff in Detroit

[gaunt gulch]

Man i have been on a mission to find great shawarma/falafel and haven't

Do any of y'all travel to Nashville?

[sharp jasper]

I do occasionally

My favorite spot up there is Husk

[gaunt gulch]

King tut's is maybe my favorite falafel in the SE

[sharp jasper]

Man yall are making me hungry with all this

[jaunty ice]

no but sounds amazing

[gaunt gulch]

Next time

[desert dawn]

When now and then was open and excuse was worth going

Now i guess i have to go for brave idiot

[gaunt gulch]

Oh dang

That looks awesome

[desert dawn]

Ya he goes hard. And then shuts down lol and then comes back

There is tons of great food options in Nashville. I just think he’s more of a locals secret gem

[vocal mesa]

Bismillah Cafe is not bad when mixed Biryani is the craving.

[gaunt gulch]

I used to love bismillah but I haven't been back since we moved back

I need to!

[jaunty ice]

Gonna try Everest Gorkhali Kitchen in Tucker

[desert dawn]

Biryani at kebab king off Jimmy Carter. However your service may very

I want say Wednesday it’s fresh and Haleem on Sunday

Kabab hut off Indian trail is impressive but spicy AF

Same service issue

Possibly language barriers too

[gaunt gulch]

https://maps.app.goo.gl/pLYu1hEZjJJHtRac7?g_st=ac

@jaunty ice have you been to Big Boss?

I have an affinity for Americanized Chinese food. This place was good AND they have a street fighter ii special championship edition arcade.

[jaunty ice]

When my oldest was almost two we went to Cafe Bombay and I we fed her some tandoori chicken and she took some bites and then started crying

[gaunt gulch]

Ok I might be showing my age here, I'm not sure what the stonks emoji means

[jaunty ice]

I use it as a an upvote/awesome emjoj

Kabab king looks solid

My wife said she wants curry, noodles, and momos

[gaunt gulch]

Ha got it

[desert dawn]

This is why I am impressed with chai pani flavor but mostly tolerable spice for a wide audience

My daughter is asking to go tonight

Luckily I’m already in Decatur

[desert dawn]

I think most of the group is older actually

[desert dawn]

Classic Asian marketing picture of the food haha

I don’t think I’ve had momos like that. Looks great

[plush sinew]

real atl oldheads remember the best indian (buffet!!!) over near N. Dekalb Mall before it burned down. Old bollywood films playing 24/7. Only like an 8-dish buffet, but mfw were they all bangers every time

@sharp jasper planning on showing up tomorrow, but if 12p rolls around and y'all are already done-zo, just @ me. Hoping I won't be that late, but traffic

[jaunty ice]

Will be finding out. Wish I could mix and match veggie with chicken

Ended up being different than the photo. Photo more like baozi

[jaunty ice]

It burned down? The vegetarian place diangle from chick fil a?

[plush sinew]

On Scott right after Church st merges there's a Peachtree Immediate Care that used to be a buffet (or maybe it was at the top of that hill—idr exactly). Same owner as the A to Z wholesale right there.

but this was like 20 years ago, easily.

I do not recall it being vegetarian, but totally plausible.

There was definitely no chick fil a tho 😛

[jaunty ice]

Oh madras mantra still open

Scott and church area is so different from when I moved here just since 2012

[desert dawn]

Madras?

Madras was or is my wife’s uncles. I think was

The dosa spot. They opened a second location in like Duluth at some point

The other one was madras chettinand but it served meat too

Ok nm they still there’s. Use to be madras savarna bhavan

[sharp jasper]

I'll try to slow the drinking until you arrive! 🫡

[desert dawn]

The moon is on point tonight

[jaunty ice]

You are well connected

Jai ho was my dosa spot when it existed. Good Sunday buffet too

[desert dawn]

Just a lot of family in Atlanta on my side and my wife’s

Immigrants that were not able to get a good education their only hustle is to open a business

[desert dawn]

It’s real

🤯

@nova wadi sorry

[nova wadi]

It didn’t work

[gaunt gulch]

Just got back from a holiday work party. I'm going to do my best to be there by 11. Not sure what shape I'll be in

[nova wadi]

Fomo setting in

[jaunty ice]

And 1 hour away from actual missing out sadly

Struggling this weekend with coffee. Bought lazy schnauzer profound adventure Yemen Haraaz and waited over 4 weeks off roast but tastes vegetal on v60 using maxwheel recipe. Not totally surprising because brew time less than 2 min. Went finer by - 0.1.3 on a4z but similar brew time and about the same. Will try on the ORB later

New roaster and not very familiar with Yemeni beans

[desert dawn]

Try a much longer bloom up to 2 mins. But vegetal is just sometimes only rest

[desert dawn]

https://tenor.com/view/wake-up-dog-doggy-hooman-get-up-gif-4229210329433945821

[gaunt gulch]

Lol I'm awake!

[jaunty ice]

Oh good advice on the bloom thank you. On the rest- I couldn’t believe 4 weeks was the rec

[desert dawn]

My wife got Dunkin this morning. Use to live on this and boy does sugar taste good

[desert dawn]

I use this trick for QC check in. But again sometimes it just needs rest

[gaunt gulch]

Since we're going to be up in that Buford highway area, should we pick somewhere to eat that gives us a chance to meet up with @jaunty ice at work? Somewhere sketch like Chipotle.

[nova wadi]

I do minimum 4 weeks generally

[desert dawn]

I have a coffee hangover kicking in

Thank you @sharp jasper for hosting!

[sharp jasper]

Dude! I felt like I had it so easy! You guys made most of the coffee! It was a blast! Thank you for bringing out all your stuff!

And leaving me with $60+ worth of coffee!

I'm definitely looking forward to next time.

@plush sinew thanks for the Bahn Mi!

[gaunt gulch]

I had a great time. Looking forward to the next one!

[nova wadi]

Hell yeah

What all did you guys make

[desert dawn]

Everything

PO, soup, olio latte, 9 bar shots, filter 3.0

Drank so much caffeine to go from wired to tired in one session

I think the most surprising was a blind tasting of 49mm basket vs 58/49mm basket

[gaunt gulch]

What was your preferred?

[desert dawn]

The 49. Even after updosing the 58/49 it still needed some adjustment for me

Initially the 58/49 15g dose was sharp acidity for me. When we did 58/49 16.5g dose the flavor improved but the finish was slightly harsh or as it cooled that same sharpness came out

MAYBE 58/49 had more clarity but not enough for me to pick it over just 49

[nova wadi]

Damn sounds like an amazing time

[gaunt gulch]

I think it's tough because the holes looked very different than the ims

Wait wait we also tried your 52mm no?

So we did 4 trials?

[desert dawn]

51mm, we did. I think it was similar to the regular 49. The 58/49 isn’t bad I think just needs more dialing in

[gaunt gulch]

So we need a 49mm s works basket...

Oh I did buy an extra step down like we talked about to try to turn into a non step down! Ok I've got some home work to do before our next one. Test 2.0!

[gaunt gulch]

@nova wadi about to try this 1:20

First try wasn't great... Because I didn't bother to look at the directions

[nova wadi]

Which is that?

[gaunt gulch]

https://youtube.com/watch?v=DOXNRuFojKM&lc=UgxfhnjgFIGr52oonit4AaABAg

Comment recipe

Actually I'm going a different one lol https://youtu.be/JpfFHv0KTrs

[desert dawn]

I sometimes do a modified version of this. 2x High flow pours, 2x melodrip pours. I believe the 2nd high flow pour removes the need for wwdt.

[gaunt gulch]

Is that 4x post bloom pours?

[jaunty ice]

I assume the 2x high flow pours are the blooms/agitation

[gaunt gulch]

Are any of y'all into cameras?

[desert dawn]

Sorry for me:
1st pour/bloom high flow
2nd pour/bloom high flow
3rd pour/melodrip close to bed
4th pour/melodrip close to bed

If a coffee is still too fresh or I feel it needs agitation I don’t use the melodrip. Keep in mind I use the metal SS v60 it flows a lot faster so I have to grind finer where astringency can get tricky so the melodrip is a nice “oh sh!t handle”

[gaunt gulch]

This just a variant of the QC?

[desert dawn]

Yes, helps not need the wwdt tool

Ming from Moonwake I believe does Brian’s recipe.

When I visited there Alvin was behind bar and we were talking so much he missed a pour. So but still hit the final weight. Then he did the official recipe with multiple pours. Ofc we tasted both and missed pour was substantially less flavor. Didn’t taste under extracted/sour just muted

[gaunt gulch]

And those are even pours?

My friend's wife knows I'm into coffee and asked me what she should get for her new espresso machine: ground or pods? https://www.target.com/p/willow-kitchen-espresso-machine-white/-/A-94938594

So now I'm in the position of wondering do I talk her out of this thing? I certainly am not going to suggest something crazy but this seems like just $90 in the trash

She does not have a grinder at all and just asked me for pod and not pod options. I feel like I might just suggest Nespresso?

[nova wadi]

Yeah I think those machines can be okay if you upgrade the basket and get a good grinder etc

But if she’s not wanting to do that then yeah maybe pods is best

Or if she’s just wanting to make milk drinks probably okay

Maybe ask her how much time she wants to spend making a coffee

[gaunt gulch]

This 100 machine can?

[gaunt gulch]

I think this is it

[nova wadi]

https://youtu.be/ArLUQWBguhM?si=mzb20TeTwlEdXEPZ

I have this baby

Would recommend

I got one brand new on eBay for $40

Also called the ECP

https://youtu.be/-rxnJRrHcjw?si=fIM8SO4oIsOn8RYs

[desert dawn]

I try

[desert dawn]

The espresso won’t matter as much if it’s covered with 8-12 oz of milk and syrup. I can’t even taste espresso in a grande Starbucks (add name) latte.

However the milk texture may leave something to be desired?

Nespresso with milk frother still probably not in budget?

https://www.macys.com/shop/product/nespresso-by-breville-vertuoplus-coffee-espresso-machine-with-aeroccino3?ID=4632095&pla_country=US&CAGPSPN=pla&trackingid=&m_sc=sem&m_sb=Google&m_tp=PLA&m_ac=Google_SH_PLA_Electrics&m_ag=&m_cn=GS_Home_Electrics_Pmax_PLA_Coffee_Makers&m_pi=go_cmp-22511815194_adg-_ad-__dev-m_ext-_prd-21614999993USA&gad_source=1&gad_campaignid=22521867049&gbraid=0AAAAAD-Tw4KHv88KZleJH1_4u3qPOpNQg&gclid=Cj0KCQiAi9rJBhCYARIsALyPDtuUPuKQvvITtPcJfCenV62oC7YcX2c5akB4ENXTjr5xfhWS9nyoqPMaAhpMEALw_wcB

I guess close $120 right now

[jaunty ice]

Made strawberry co-ferment espresso today. Super under-extracted 18s pull. Great with milk. Thank you milk

[desert dawn]

Funk and milk can go well together

[nova wadi]

I need to try that

I’ve made like 2 milk drinks ever

[nova wadi]

Belux has an umami miso latte

I’m very intrigued

[jaunty ice]

I pull shots intended for milk so I kinda tend toward funky beans with higher flow rate. Give me a nice light medium pacamara natural

[gaunt gulch]

This is an odd distinction, but I can't do a milk drink. That seems like it would be something to dilute a good coffee, but I can do a milk drink if there is an elevated flavored syrup and the whole thing seems like a crafted beverage.

[jaunty ice]

"can't do" like do not enjoy?

[gaunt gulch]

Oh I forgot, we talked about this on Sunday in person, I'm lactose sensitive (bet you can guess why) so I have this initial reaction to milk (even if it's something like fairlife that I know won't affect me). So whenever I take a sip of straight milk drink (even if I make it or have it made with lactose free milk) I also get skeeved out. That has bled over into milk alternatives from to preferences now probably. But if something is a 'beverage' I can do it.

[jaunty ice]

That makes a lot of sense to me. My son is allergic to peanuts and has been desensitized and any bit of peanut he hates, even if its candy. I can see how the post lactose symptoms would push you away from tasting milk.

I use 2% lactose free milk at home so the whole milk in shops are always a little surprising to me and not in a good way. I usually have better luck ordering cortados.

[nova wadi]

I love peanut butter so much. makes me sad that some kids cant have it

[jaunty ice]

The good news is he doesn’t feel like he’s missing out.

[jaunty ice]

I think the price was better for 8oz but hydrangea has some rested Lerida available to buy- I've really loved my Lerida gesha cups this year, especially since I've been brewing as soup. https://hydrangea.coffee/products/rested-coffee?variant=51657270133058

[sharp jasper]

So have of yall used craft instant coffee? I got some from verve and now some from Partners. And a few samples from luminous when I had their subscription. All in all, better than folgers swill. And easy.

I'm going on a cruise next week, and that's the main reason I bought more.

Cruise ship coffee is so disappointing.

The ship I'm going on has this beautiful machine. Yet they serve absolutely burnt crap through it.

[tender edge]

Dang this channel blowin up! I was just in Atlanta the past few days, went to Radio Coffee Roasters most days I wanted to grab coffee. Will make sure to pop in here next time before visiting to see if anyone is down to meetup.

[desert dawn]

Awesome. Where are you from