Los Angeles/OC/San Diego 🌈

[glossy sail]

agreed.

[eternal birch]

chickn burger eh

[dull adder]

Just got my first pair, some Samurai's 😁

[compact hound]

Service was ass btw

[desert stirrup]

Did you guys see MH3 Bomber has a melodrip copy?

https://mhw3bomber.com/products/mhw-3bomber-rain-pour-over-coffee-splitter

[weary chasm]

You buying?

You can also look at their egg brewer

[civic crest]

Nice!

[weary chasm]

Built in melodrip

[civic crest]

Sold 4 shirts on Grailed no bites on eBay

[dull adder]

I hear ebay fees are bad these days, how's Grailed?

[civic crest]

Yeah I just saw they started dinner service. Still haven’t been back since moldgate

[weary chasm]

I was curious because I saw bad things about cost of bellwether. But their new model is $22k or $27k with continuous roasting attachment.

Pretty cool tech for something electric with no needing to direct any exhaust

[civic crest]

Fees are bad for buyer and seller

$90 sale I only keep $62

Buyer has to pay tax not sure what else

[desert stirrup]

Dawgg the nipples are this thing are wildly long

[desert stirrup]

Shits like 14%

Fuck eBay man

So high

MH3 melo drip has super long ass nipples but is cheaper

So what do I value more?

Local LA business with shorter nipples

Or $10 and looooooooong nipples

So long

They even advertise it

MH3 proud of long, poke your eyes out, nipples

[weary chasm]

So you buying?

[desert stirrup]

Secret

[weary chasm]

sounds like you're buying both

[desert stirrup]

You think I’m a long nipple guy???!!!

[mellow sonnet]

It's not new

Get egg dripper I'm pretty sure that one has a better screen

[short condor]

We just keep a solid preheat, I check my oven a laser thermometer and it’s usually 15 degrees off than what it says but I go 415 knowing it’s 400 for 45 and then turn it off and let them sit for 15 minutes. Not soft firm but mushable texture. I like the fat ones vs the skinnier ones they bake/roast more evenly.

[bitter kestrel]

Anyone know anything about My Friend’s Coffee?

[neon scaffold]

I bought a bag or two of this at handy market in Burbank a while ago but I’d have to try it again, my setup back then was much different and I only drank grocery store coffee

I bet you can find a bag there if ur curious, or call first to check

[desert stirrup]

I'm 99% sure I'll just get the melodrip lift from FDM optikz with the drip screen installed. That way I'm supporting two small buisness owners with one purchase :)

I still don't know if I'll buy it or not

[bitter kestrel]

Going to Burbank today. Thanks! If it’s half decent, this area of the valley needs this badly.

[neon scaffold]

nice yea if u have some lmk i like handy market. i used to also buy trystero from them im wondering how it holds up

[boreal solar]

@tight gorge are you still looking for a cheap second grinder? https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/896663193177134/?mibextid=wwXIfr just saw this guy. Could be worth looking into.

[short condor]

Thought about posting it and grabbing it too there’s a set of 64 sweet labs for sale for 100 on here too

[crude citrus]

Ok but who bought the zerno. I need to thank them

[short condor]

I made an offer but then it was marked sold

There was one on offer up but it was a scam

[crude citrus]

I think it was a good buy at full asking of $1400

[left kite]

Warehouse sale in Irvine

[earnest robin]

How much

How do they do sg2 Damascus

Is it cladded?

Also, I hope that the rod is ceramic

[left kite]

Cladded, think the rod is tungsten carbide but I have a ceramic one lying around

[earnest robin]

It's only useful for deburring after sharpening, why is it part of the set

[left kite]

That I’m not sure lol

[vivid violet]

the Weber SG1 costs $55K, so I can't imagine what this SG2 costs

[vivid violet]

are there any honing rods which actually sharpen ?

or are they always intended for "maintenance", and post-sharpening

[earnest robin]

No, with European soft steel knives which always have some burr left they straighten it

The burr itself is very sharp but it last a couple cuts

[vivid violet]

and what harder Japanese steel ?

[earnest robin]

So the rod just aligns it

If you properly sharpen the knife there should not be any burr left and the edge lasts very long depending on the angle and steel
Sg2 has good edge retention so it should last long

If you try using the rod on a hard steel with high retention and low toughness it will chip it

But ceramic rods can be used to deburr them. Since with harder steel burr is easier to take it off (you can imagine aluminum foil which soft and you can bend it back and forth many times, while something harder will snap quicker)

[vivid violet]

thanks for taking the time to write that ! interesting to hear the details.

learned it a while ago and have forgotten it all 😅

[short condor]

I need to not buy that P80 🥲

[dull adder]

They say no... but I watched a video from a knife nerd and he started with saying it doesn't. Then he dulled a blade against a brick, used a ceramic honing rod, and then tested the knife and it was very clearly sharper.

[tight gorge]

Majordomo pancakes look lit

[dull adder]

Found it finally

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=20M5H449AR0

[tall frigate]

Sharpness is strange because there's a difference between absolute sharpness and perceived sharpness.

My early kitchen knives were extremely sharp, but had really bad cutting performance

They would shave hair without trouble, but struggle to cut through a carrot

Some amount of the loss of sharpness when putting a knife to brick is actual blunting of the edge of the secondary bevel

But some is rolling over of the edge, resulting in the side of the secondary bevel hitting the food instead of the tip

Honing steels (or their ceramic counterparts) can let you roll those back over to center if the bend in the bevel doesn't go too far back into the primary bevel of the knife

Rolling it back to center means that now the actual cutting edge of the knife is true again, and hitting the food first. Perceived sharpness is improved.

Most people spending money on a nice kitchen knife would be best suited by buying an affordable high carbon steel knife to learn about maintenance before investing in something made from a high end supersteel

Like really affordable: 1084, O1, 15N20, 80CrV2, etc

[earnest robin]

Ceramic rods are abrasive, metal ones aren't

Ceramic can sharpen and removes the burr more effectively because of that

[earnest robin]

I disagree, high carbon steels are ptia and sg2 is amazing and costs is negligible

Or at least D2 or A2 steels

[tall frigate]

it's less about the performance of the knife and more about learning how to take care of a nice knife

like learning on a manual car

[earnest robin]

But why take care the high maintenance baby

[tall frigate]

because it will teach you how to care for a nice knife, refinish the primary bevel if needed, repair chips and dings, hone, sharpen, etc

[earnest robin]

Manuals are also overrated, knowing how to change gears is at the bottom for performance driving

[tall frigate]

we are all certainly entitled to our opinions

[earnest robin]

I'm still not understanding why you need a knife that will corrode if you look at the wrong side

You can do the same things with stainless or semi stainless steel

[tall frigate]

for sure, but easier to work on and repair a high carbon steel

i have plenty of stainless knives

I like them as much as anyone else

my personal preference is stainlesss clad carbon san mai

I prefer he edge I get on the carbon core, but get the bonus of stainless cladding for corrosion resistance

[earnest robin]

Ok, I agree with that one. I sharpened chromax and sg2 and they take longer than 1080 or 15n20

If not using diamonds

But recently with diamonds anything takes the same time

[tall frigate]

You need a 2x72 with a 3hp motor

Come over. We can sharpen any knife in about 30 seconds.

And if you look at it wrong you'll change the entire knife profile

and ruin the heat treat

(ask me how I know, lol)

[earnest robin]

I was expecting "I have a kiln to fix it"

[tall frigate]

I wish I had a heat treat oven

[earnest robin]

I only saw a damaged heat treatment on the edges from pull through sharpeners

[tall frigate]

Yeah, I could see how that would happen

Right now the only stainless I've dabbled with in my garage is nitro-v and AEBL

[earnest robin]

I gifted my mom a nice zwilling and my dad took it to a butcher to sharpen which transformed it to a butcher knife needing honing for every cut

[tall frigate]

Ouch

[earnest robin]

I learnt my lesson

[earnest robin]

Have you seen rex121 steel scoring glass?

[edgy onyx]

but it's easier to deburr well with plates+ stropping than with a rod

[tall frigate]

no, but i've been waiting for alpha steel to restock it so I can buy a billet

I just bought a big billet of apex ultra which I'm excited to use

[civic crest]

Good price

[cedar otter]

It's cafe oat, not barista oat

it's like a lower quality oat milk that's sub par to the barista oat you get from califia

[civic crest]

ahh I bought a box. We have an Amazon subscribe and save to the barista one but they’ve been out the last two months

[cedar otter]

yeah I mean it works haha

but if someone was using califia barista edition but bought cafe oat to replace it, it will change the flavor

[civic crest]

We subbed minor figures last month my wife did not like it

[cedar otter]

Oh minor figure organic is way better than reg

Reg is bad

We use organic at our shops

We did 8 diff oat milk tasting/pairings

[crude citrus]

Ah interesting. I had minor figure barista but didn’t care for it. Maybe need to try organic

[weary chasm]

I still don't like oat milk... But a lot of people do.

[cedar otter]

There were better tasting ones but MF Org checked all the boxes without being overpriced

[weary chasm]

Matcha latte, with oat milk...

[crude citrus]

I prefer whole milk for taste but Im lactose intolerant and need to watch my cholesterol so left with no choice

[weary chasm]

Hm. But now I'm curious. Might try to source it and see if I can taste the diff

[crude citrus]

This should be a YouTube video. But which ones ranks higher than MF?

[cedar otter]

Just by flavor, I think it was ghost town and koatji

Ghosttown is almost double the price

And had had supply issues

[weary chasm]

Tier list. Lol

[crude citrus]

I like koatji too but it’s an entirely different flavor

[gusty pier]

Then only way to enjoy matcha

[weary chasm]

Honestly thought people liked to drink grass

But it is grass in oat

[boreal solar]

I steam the Aldi fairlife knockoff. It actually works surprisingly well for art and has a pretty neutral taste. Little thin body wise though.

[dull adder]

https://www.instagram.com/officialpandaexpress/p/DWO8oedjnWV/

Alright no embeds for you

Anyway Panda is back for a threepeat this year 👀👀

[short condor]

That’s kind of like asking why have a nice grinder or multiple brewers when I can just get a cheap French press or plastic funnel and brew coffee with.

Sure they both can get the job done and for someone who doesn’t know coffee might taste barely different. But to those of us who do it’s night and day.

I have cheap knives that I use a just a hone and cheap sharpener to get the job done for quick misc jobs. And I have two nice knives that will never see anything shy of a 1-5k grit stones an hour of elbow grease put in to them.

I make a cup of coffee for my dad and it’s gonna be minimal care even for a nice coffee. I make a cup of coffee for someone in this group and I’m gonna treat it like it’s fuckin surgery.

[mellow sonnet]

Lmao I went yesterday too

[earnest robin]

I don't think Maxwell was suggesting getting cheap knife but rather a knife with carbon steel which are not cheaper than good stainless. So I think your analogy is wrong

[civic crest]

I’m about to go on statins tired of this battle

[tight gorge]

yeah some are just hereditary

I’m due for my second forward blood test. It’s gonna be baddd

[earnest robin]

Yolo, die young

I would have been reported if I posted this at work

[short condor]

Personally I re read his statement and I’d still stick with mine. He did word it better in the sense that it will teach you the care you should have. As if it’s a sense of self discipline, in my honest opinion it teaches you to appreciate it more. In my expierence especially in this day and age there’s many fairly affordable knives that have Carbon steel edges, there also very ungodly expensive ones as well. But this is merely my opinion.

[short condor]

Same

I’m a big fan of elmhurst oak milk and their barista formula as well. I haven’t had a better one that I like in cortados than that. Highly recommend trying to anyone that hasn’t.

[proven anchor]

Which oatmilk tastes the least oat-y

[bitter kestrel]

I have hereditary high cholesterol. I'm no MAHA, but the science just isn't there for dietary cholesterol affecting your numbers and heart health. A lot of medicine is still hanging on to old studies that haven't held up. Unless you're drinking gallons of it a week, don't think whole milk is going to do any harm. Overal saturated fat? Sure, there's some evidence still there. But unfiltered coffee (spro, etc.) prob has a bigger effect than milk.

[bitter kestrel]

Make sure they test for LPA cholesterol, too. Often have to ask since it's relatively new.

[civic crest]

for me it's not about milk but just food in general. but you're saying spro has an effect on LDL?

[bitter kestrel]

Yes, this has been known for a while and is continually reinforced with new studies. (You can search EAF for "cafestol".) Paper filtering knocks it down to negligible. I believe this was the initial reason Rao came up with Filter 2/3.

[crude citrus]

TIL. Thanks. I’ll probably continue to keep my sat fats low but good to know about cafestol.

[civic crest]

oh I’ve been paper filtering my spro

[drowsy knot]

replaced my normal bagels with cream cheese breakfast for steel cut oats with banana and nuts about six months ago and dropped my cholesterol 40+ points. I prefer bagels and cream cheese but I am old now

[civic crest]

I daily oats been doing this battle for 15+ years just tired now lol especially with two young kids

Pretty healthy overall just bad genetics

[drowsy knot]

Damn, I’m sorry that’s bad luck

[bitter kestrel]

Get a CAC scan. Found out it's only $200 out of pocket. Genetic cholesterol doesn't necessarily mean you're screwed.

[civic crest]

I did the calcium scan lol it’s good

[crude citrus]

Any place you’d recommend?

[civic crest]

I just think getting my numbers down will be better for me long term

[bitter kestrel]

I have a shitty HMO, so it's always gonna be any of the RadNet locations, which is like most radiology places in LA. They said it wasn't covered by insurance and I was bracing for a huge number.

[civic crest]

I went through my PPO and still have to pay 380 after coverage through UCLA health

[bitter kestrel]

We're all basically just espresso machines accumulating scale.

[crude citrus]

How many mg of cafiza should I take Dr NattyLite?

[bitter kestrel]

None! Just one bowl of Grindz in a cup of Dezcal a day keeps the doctor away.

[earnest robin]

You need dezcal

IV

[boreal solar]

Lemony goodness.

[vivid violet]

seriously upping your soluable and insoluable fiber goes a long way to reducing your numbers, combined with lowering carbs and sugars. the fiber part basically somehow routes the cholesterol produced by the liver to exit through digestion vs going into bloodstream.

---

How it’s made: Cholesterol production in your body - Harvard Health https://www.health.harvard.edu/heart-health/how-its-made-cholesterol-production-in-your-body

but yeah, some of us just need statins help too.

better to do sooner rather than later, and have the building blocks for vascular dementia (in the brain) started.

just straight oatmeal jacks your blood sugars.

you need to slow it down with fiber and protein.

also mixing it up by making stuff like teff for bfast is good.

(what is fermented to make the Ethiopian injira)

also, eating protein before having coffee lowers your blood sugar spike a lot.

also, excess fat destroys your muscles' ability to process sugars well, and leads to insulin resistance.

[crude citrus]

Man this channel has it all. Coffee, food, knives, and now health

[weary chasm]

Health is the highest priority

I say while r & d cream tops

[bitter kestrel]

While currently trying to avoid statins, the new ones have come a long way in reducing side effects. I won’t oppose them if CAC is bad

[crude citrus]

How often do you go for a CAC? Annually?

[neon scaffold]

I’m too dumb for nuance please tell me how to live my life

[surreal pivot]

Ugh I didn’t know black coffee despite zero direct load on blood sugar can still raise glucose in some people

[cedar otter]

that's crazy

I thought black coffee was safe

[bitter kestrel]

That’s only very acutely because of the short adrenaline surge. Long term black coffee consumption is linked to better blood glucose control. Do not start worrying about that one!

[bitter kestrel]

I’ve never gone for one. My cholesterol is borderline (high LPA, which has no pharma nor lifestyle treatment) but want the data to delay statin starting.

[civic crest]

My doc said it depends on risk but she said I was prob good for 5 years

[tall frigate]

GLP1

[tall frigate]

also, GLP1

my fasting blood glucose was actually scary low on my last set of labs

like low enough I would give one of my patients a stat amp of D50 if they had that lab value

[cedar otter]

Is GLP1 safe to get from those online places

was it ro or hims that now have them?

[tall frigate]

Probably. They're compounded by real pharmacies and prescribed by providers.

I think they have enough to lose that they wouldn't jerk their clientele around

Most of the nurses I know on it buy it from mexico or china. I wouldn't do that, personally.

[boreal solar]

I have relatives that buy it in Mexico.

[tall frigate]

Yeah, they all have no problems with it.

And a lot of the lab tests of chinese peptides show they're accurate and safe. I'm just extremely conservative with stuff I inject into my body.

[boreal solar]

heh, I'd be lying if I said I didn't consider it. I do crossfight three times a week and do two 20 mile bike rides but can't seem to lose weight. I used to weigh 400lbs when I was younger and lost a lot of weight via crash dieting. I think I screwed up my metabolic rate.

[vivid violet]

also conservative, so instead of GLP1 , I'd start with a GLK 350 Brabus AMG

[cedar otter]

I'm scurred of needles

well doing it by myself especially

[vivid violet]

I gave myself a B12 shot once, and when I took the needle out of my quad, the B12 liquid shot out 😂

[tall frigate]

excellent idea

[tall frigate]

I injected today at work and all the nurses were fighting over who gets to stab me

I don't know what that says about my work reputation

[tall frigate]

for those of us that were heavier when younger, there's for sure a 3rd variable that drives weight

it's still cal in vs cal out, but it's not as simple as diet and exercise

the first time I injected tirzep, I was like "oh shit, this is what normal people feel like."

[bitter kestrel]

I've dabbled in mail order peptides a lot and lived to tell the tale. Peptides are pretty darn safe in general.

[tight gorge]

Particle size yo

[tall frigate]

I didn't know that I could live a life where there wasn't a voice in my brain screaming at me to eat until I vomited at all times

[bitter kestrel]

Yeah, I was a fat kid, lost it all in late teens ... and now it's impossible to fight no matter what I do.

[cedar otter]

always been heavy

want to know what it feels to be skinny @mellow sonnet @compact hound

[bitter kestrel]

Coffee for breakfast, GLPs for lunch and a sensible Vyvanse dinner.

[lone pier]

i lost like 100 pounds over the last 3 years or so and when people comment on it i say it was all ozempic and adderall 🤣

[bitter kestrel]

That's what they're thinking anyway, even if it wasn't. And ya know, people demand that we suffer to look good or we cheated.

[weary chasm]

Not as skinny as college days...

Is it the body that ages?

[tall frigate]

you're classy

I tell people it's meth and a full set of dentures

[lone pier]

(it was wegovy and spro btw 🤣)

[mellow sonnet]

Yeah Adhd meds do wonders I quit cold turkey bc my physiatrist moved from independent practice to Kaiser so my insurance couldn't cover anymore

[lone pier]

it does get annoying when people comment on weight change immediately though. like ask me how me how i’ve been at least 😭

[lone pier]

ahh that blows. curious cuz i dont take them regularly, do stimmys + caffeine hit too hard together?

or does it make you like hyper focused on anything

[mellow sonnet]

No changes in focus but wow it fucks your appetite

But I was on antidepressants and ADHD med together so I think both combined fucked my appetite more

I would drink coffee and have a slice of bread and not eat the whole day

[lone pier]

interesting i had the opposite experience when i tried an ssri, gained a bit of weight

i appetite came back full force actually. i figured it was because my anxiety was doing a lot better

[mellow sonnet]

I never had any anxiety so idk

[tall frigate]

when my weight loss first started being obvious I just told everyone it was cancer and moved along

but when I hit the 50+ lb weight loss range, people could no longer tell that i was joking, and what wasn't really funny to begin with was really really not funny

[bitter kestrel]

Most cause weight gain except Wellbutrin. That one plus a stimmie is 🏃‍♂️‍➡️ But it’s all person to person.

[bitter kestrel]

Had to make a rule in my family that no greeting can ever be about weight loss or gain. Probably should just be a societal rule.

[compact hound]

I haven’t been to the doctor in over 7 years

[compact hound]

I was 20 lbs heavier in 2020-2021

Weight gain was noticeable in the face the most

Then i just black coffee maxxed and did OMAD and lost all the weight and some

Terrible way to do it but it worked

[crude citrus]

TIL OMAD is different than GOMAD

[mellow sonnet]

Yep was on wellbutrin

Wellbutrin + concerta + a lot of coffee had me going and not bedrotting all day but it def not healthy

[earnest robin]

Shaming people taking meds to lose weight is like shaming people with depression and telling them"just don't be sad"

[short condor]

Lily out of Indiana has solid plans that are pay to play just need to get labs done. Wife started out there before getting coverage on insurance

You can pay more for auto injectors as well but it’s cheaper for vials and needles.
Getting in the protein while on it is much harder than it looks, maintaining muscle if you have it becomes a bit harder as well. So if you start definetely have a plan for protein and fiber and start working out with your body weight to not feel weak. Everyone reacts differently as well, some people don’t have stomache problems on them others do. Both my wife and I burp a lot on it and take additional stomache acid pills to balance it out.

You don’t realize how much you spend on food until you’re not buying half the amount you use to and can split meals easier when going out.

[boreal solar]

By autoinjectors do you mean like the pump that my diabetic mom has for insulin stuck to her arm? That doesn't sound enjoyable.

[spiral arrow]

Early

Good morning yall

[mellow sonnet]

everyone going to holbox again this weekend?

[short condor]

Sorry I meant the injector pens like how the EpiPens work

[short condor]

The joint seafood? Or somewhere else

[earnest robin]

Do they open this early?

[dull adder]

What's happening this weekend?

[mellow sonnet]

nothing

[dull adder]

Aha

Well I'll be out this weekend so that's good. I don't want fomo

[split shale]

Anyone know of any latte art classes in west la? I’m still struggling to make micro foam no matter how many lance hedrick or james hoffman videos I watch and think I need to take a class lol

[mellow sonnet]

what machine are you using?

i feel like most "classes" teach you on a LM which is insanely forgiving lol

[split shale]

Profitec Go but my linea micra just arrived

[spiral arrow]

Holbox

[spiral arrow]

Nah, I'm here for something else

[earnest robin]

DMV?

I felt like that place is cafeteria for DMV the first time I visited

[split shale]

I haven’t had a chance to test out the LM and see if I get any better results, but after 2 years of practicing on the Go, I have very little hope I’ll get the hang of it on my own 🤣

[spiral arrow]

I'm here for Chichen Itza

[earnest robin]

It's a bit south of that, about 3000 miles

[neon scaffold]

I took a very reasonably priced and fun intro latte workshop at regent in highland park. Literally the opposite of the west side but thought I’d send regardless

Might be too intro for your level of xp not sure

[mellow sonnet]

youll be surprised how forgiving stronger steam is

stronger dry steam makes a large difference imo

[split shale]

Highland park is close enough for me! Honestly you’d be surprised at how bad I am at steaming milk after a couple of years. I’ve pretty much accepted defeat and typically drink straight espresso or espresso + hot milk 😭

[mellow sonnet]

imp retty sure i cant steam for shit on the go but i have a bdb and a decent previously and it was ok

[split shale]

This was one of the motivating factors for upgrading to a LM. Going to test it out this week and see how it goes. Still though, wouldn’t mind taking a latte art class to learn the basics

[mellow sonnet]

i would give it a month on the LM and then see whats up

[split shale]

Sounds good. Thanks for all the tips everyone!

[mellow sonnet]

ive shifted to filter and occasional spro so havent really looked at latte art that much rip

the winner of latte art cup also works at mandarin 2 and offers classes at east pasadena but thats incredibly far

[neon scaffold]

Regent has a slayer that’s what you’d be pouring on

[dull adder]

+1 to what derp said, commercial level steam handles totally different

[neon scaffold]

I feel like there’s a space in the market for a standalone steamer/wand. it interests me but I’m a robot user

[mellow sonnet]

meticulous milk and morning dream exist

[neon scaffold]

I know there are options but haven’t heard of any that are highly recommended

[mellow sonnet]

and the dreo milk thing

[neon scaffold]

Maybe those fill that space

[mellow sonnet]

but imo if u want milk then get a larger spro machine

[neon scaffold]

I’m still enjoying milk free, latte art is just v pretty

[mellow sonnet]

i feel like their steam is at best similar to decent's steam which is better than most heat exchangers but its no commerical steam

never used any of them but thats my gut feeling

[dull adder]

Meticulous Milk kinda doesn't really exist lol

[mellow sonnet]

On the note of holbox tho I'm eating some of this on my rice and veggies today

[mellow sonnet]

will exist in 2-3 years

[split shale]

I should also note that I’m lactose and strictly use oat milk, hence the struggles. I’ve had much better luck using milk, but really only do that when making a drink for someone else

[mellow sonnet]

rip use barista oat

those steam a lot better

[split shale]

Yep, I use minor figures barista oat. I’m determined to get the hang of it eventually 🙂

[short condor]

Personally the navigate provides a pretty good job at it with alt milks and very easy set it and go

[bitter kestrel]

Counter Culture (Silverlake) has one. It’s $200, but they are every month and they have lots of machines. New educator (Lena) is super nice and patient. Have considered taking it since other cheaper classes I’ve had were pretty bad. It is hard to learn at home if you don’t have a pro machine. ES1 milk has improved my game a lot from Breville. I suspect it’s more about repeating over with soap/food coloring (or in cafe) than instruction.

[bitter kestrel]

Can you drink lactose free milk? The sugars conversion only slightly increases foam but otherwise it’s the same. Maybe we do a milk-centric meetup sometime.

[glossy sail]

if you're ever near SGV, i can show you on my decent

[split shale]

That sounds lovely! Yes, I can drink lactose free milk but specifically fairlife. For some reason, any other brand of lactose free milk still messes me up haha. It’s been a while since I tried using regular milk so going to try that with the new LM machine and see how things go!

[split shale]

Thank you!!

[spiral arrow]

Fooood

[bitter kestrel]

Great! The ultra-filtered milks will foam super fast due to the extra protein, but you can mitigate by stretching a little less. I do think that not having perfect texture is the actual main hindrance to improving latte art. I always do much better when I’m practicing in a shop.

[glossy sail]

sometimes stronger/commercial machines steam so fast that the stretch is super quick and its easy to blow past it

[cedar otter]

Actually Mandarin

Matcharu

[solid ferry]

Yakitori tare jar but 🟢

[compact hound]

@tight gorge

Better than i remembered

Not crazy about it though

[bitter kestrel]

Butter+salt is the best. Others are just good. But how’s the coffee now?

[boreal solar]

I think it’s hard to get an inedible donut anyway.

[crude citrus]

All of us in here talking about our high cholesterol and this man rolls in with his donut

[boreal solar]

Mines actually in control now. I cut back on cheese and worked out more regularly for a few months and now it’s fine. I’m still obese and weight isn’t changing. But my bloodwork is clean so there’s that.

If you put any stock in inbody scans my lean mass is up and fat is down a little though

I almost wish it wasn’t because it would be easier to bug my doctor about ozempic.

[surreal pivot]

I haven’t been in over a year but their decaf americano was hitting

Their Apple fritter is extremely weak though

[bitter kestrel]

Yeah, weird to be told you're fat but also that you aren't covered to do anything about it.

[boreal solar]

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/985124771141983/?mibextid=wwXIfr there’s something you don’t see every day.

[vivid violet]

the answer is, you should do the Dougie all the time.

[left kite]

Wendodeez

[bitter kestrel]

Maybe they work for SCA. Didn't know this was only available in 240V.

[mellow sonnet]

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/804640345472779/

Ngl this is an insane set and cool but yeah I wouldn't want that in my house either

[bitter kestrel]

Gotta get it with the Lego Straight of Hormuz

[lone pier]

we hit an og donut spot last night actually

donuts are so back 📈

[vivid violet]

Donut Man ?

[solid ferry]

https://youtu.be/3Ji08Heymh8

[left kite]

Looks like donuttery in HB?

Donut man got the godly strawberry donut or peach one always on display

[lone pier]

california donuts (in ktown i think)

[dull adder]

I think it's because the machine requires 20a

[boreal solar]

https://losangeles.craigslist.org/lac/app/d/los-angeles-breville-oracle-touch/7922172657.html anyone want to get stabbed?

[vivid violet]

$50 , wow.

that plus a hospital trip is hopefully less than new

[boreal solar]

It's a pretty good deal if legit.

meeting in an alley behind a house seems questionable though

[low mantle]

Oh shit, I’ve seen this address before. Someone is harassing that home. Last time they had a similar ad for bezzera but the same address.

[mellow sonnet]

💀 why harass them

[boreal solar]

It’s back house. Perhaps it’s squatting tenants?

[low mantle]

I don’t know, it’s definitely a petty, personal thing. Possibly coffee related since both listings are machines.

The “scam” originates from Reddit. R/Unethicallifeprotip

[boreal solar]

I figured it was a scam.

That’s sort of a weird reason though.

[low mantle]

I’m just speculating but it’s definitely the same house that listed a Bezzera two weeks back.

[bitter kestrel]

Or just stolen merchandise? I’m tempted to find out. Just gotta hone a few cheap knives…

[mellow sonnet]

Weekly holbox trip or what

[cedar otter]

First time in 8 yrs

[boreal solar]

Prices aren’t that bad actually. I’ve never been. I assumed they’d be $$$$

[glossy sail]

Most affordable 1 Michelin star in LA lol

[craggy parrot]

Hi all. I’m visiting LA later this week and I am seeking recommendations for great cafes to check out. I’ll be staying in the Los Feliz / Silver Lake area, but will be bopping around the city so suggestions in any area are useful. Thanks!

[cedar otter]

Ahem

[boreal solar]

I think Bryan wants to recommend Sqirl.

[vivid violet]

Ondo (on Heliotrope), Mandarin Coffee (both 1 and 2, in Pasadena)

Quat LA was nice too

haven't been to Monolith, others here have been.

i really liked Be Bright on Melrose

[vivid violet]

and in addition to my notes above, here's a good list from @tight gorge :

#1228081171649400912 message

the slow bar at Ondo might be up your alley

File Systems of Coffee is also neat. they try to select unique coffees to highlight.. and it's down the street from Be Bright

the Turkish coffee at Yala Coffee was really tasty, too.. but it's a bit further out.

Hooked (in Venice) was also really tasty.

[low mantle]

$450 BDB

https://orangecounty.craigslist.org/app/d/lake-forest-breville-dual-boiler/7922896407.html

Clean brass/copper ‘93 pavoni
$350

https://losangeles.craigslist.org/wst/app/d/los-angeles-1993-vintage-la-pavoni/7923087619.html

^sure is pretty

[cedar otter]

Holy fuck

[boreal solar]

Check out this item on OfferUp. https://offerup.co/ssfX07SEM1b competition for the Pavoni.

[low mantle]

I just picked up a rusty old mcal to restore. My wife can only tolerate some many projects/ machines collecting dust.

[mellow sonnet]

Have you tried removing the rate limiting factor? the wife just finish your projects faster

[low mantle]

😂 I was about to make a joke saying if I were a bachelor that copper pavoni would look great next to the mcal

[boreal solar]

I just sold a project this morning. Tempted to go get that zacconi but I bought a macbook pro last week and I'm not sure if my wife would understand

[low mantle]

Always kind of sad when you sell a project. I’m still holding onto my ACS Vesuvius but that’s my next machine to list.

I think my wife has learned to accept that I need a project or two in the works. It’s therapeutic in a sense. I try my best to turn a small profit to justify my hobby.

[low mantle]

Id see if you can grab it for $200. Then you can argue it’s totally an investment.

[boreal solar]

My wife is usually fine with it too. But I don't know. The last project wasn't as exciting. It was a Jura I bought at a thrift shop in claremont and took apart and cleaned up.

pretty easy sale though.

One of my favorite projects was a europiccola. So i'm sort of exceited to rebuild another lever.

[low mantle]

I fixed my parents Jura and my god that thing was miserable to work on. So much moving plastic parts

[boreal solar]

It is annoying to work on. But I sold it to a parent from my kiddos daycare whom has been complaining about their nespresso being too one dimensional. And theyre pretty excited. Its a good entry drug for them

plus I can sell them beans now.

he loves pour over but his wife loves the conveniance of the nespresso. They both hated the output.

[low mantle]

Im digging the simplicity of the mcal. I see the appeal of restoring old levers. I was originally trying to find an old pavoni to fix up but I couldn’t turn down this.

[low mantle]

I’ve started to almost feel guilty when I help people enhance their coffee experience. It’s such a slippery slope.

Buying an expensive grinder is always the hard sell to newbies.

[short condor]

Best one of their location in my opinion

Thinking real damn hard on that wendougee

[neon scaffold]

I’m at the point in my hobby where massive skill issues are becoming a problem

Clogging like a mf even with fast filters and coarse grinding

I feel like the smallest agitation in the world & boom it’s a 6m brew

[tight gorge]

v60?

Hard to clog that if you truly coarse

unless you switch to an Eth, then yeah you could clog but prob not 6 min vs normal 3 min

[neon scaffold]

Yea v60, at 6.0 zp6 sometimes and still can get 430-6m

Bigger doses (15-20g) but still

[tight gorge]

Well time to go coarser lol

[neon scaffold]

Fr

I’m just in shock

[tight gorge]

Or try the bq recipe

[neon scaffold]

I got less clogging this morning doing water first w the bloom

My agitation needs work

[neon scaffold]

Will check it out

[tight gorge]

I’ve been vibe brewing this list month

[neon scaffold]

My d27 cups are always good

My v60….

[compact hound]

Bro how do you have your zp6 calibrated 6 min brew at 6 is wild

[neon scaffold]

Hit or miss

[neon scaffold]

I know right ??

[tight gorge]

So yolo that I don’t use a scale for my wife’s cup. Just memorize the time rhythm of my cup and try that on hers

[compact hound]

I fw this ^

[neon scaffold]

I’m zero’d at the 0 I recalibrated it a few days ago

Mayb I’ll take a video and post it to beginners channel

[compact hound]

Whats your recipe

I still dont understand how 6m brews are possible

Even 4:30 is crazy

[neon scaffold]

20g in 1/16, 3-4x dose bloom 45s, second pour at 130, last pour right before bed gets exposed

Bloom and first pour drain fine

Usually

[tight gorge]

Dang pretty trad approach

[neon scaffold]

I coped and ordered Sibarist last night just to test my insanity lol

[tight gorge]

Imagine you get longer brews

[neon scaffold]

Would be so funny

[compact hound]

That’s not the move bruh

[neon scaffold]

Rip wallet

[tight gorge]

I mean always nice to fuck with subarist once

but once is enough

[neon scaffold]

Will go back to abaca/t90 just wanted to try

[tight gorge]

Tap water maybe

[neon scaffold]

I’m using RO with 1/3 tww mix

[compact hound]

Just go z1

[tight gorge]

Hmm kinda lost. The only thing I can think of is to do the third pour faster

[neon scaffold]

Rn I’m resolving skill issues, once I’m good enough to get value out of gear Mayb I’ll think about it

[tight gorge]

I do four pours and max out at 340iah

[neon scaffold]

I do brew in a switch idk if that’s part of it

Maybe some shit in there is messed up

[neon scaffold]

That’s awesome

It didn’t used to b this way. My d27 cups are good

[tight gorge]

lol

You are not the defective one

[compact hound]

Was referring to orea

[neon scaffold]

O mb

[tight gorge]

No bro, he needs to push through with v60

[neon scaffold]

I feel committed to it tbh

[tight gorge]

Can’t have a fellow meetup guy chocking his brew when his friends come over

[neon scaffold]

I won’t stop until I can grind at 5.5 and have a 3m tbt

[tight gorge]

lol

I’m curious post your brew here next time you do one

[neon scaffold]

For sure, ready to be flamed/helped

[shadow torrent]

are you by any chance doing low flow rate continuous pour streams from a somewhat high kettle position

oh wait

what filters are these

[neon scaffold]

i was doing high flow rate from a bit higher but in an effort to lower agitation i started pouring from lower and slower

t90 and abaca

ill take a vid one of these days soon

[short condor]

Beat me to the punch, it sounds like an agitation issue and it’s causing the fines to settle and clog the filter. I’ve played around with it before with shit coffee and managed to clog a 18g brew at 8 minutes just with constant agitation.

@tight gorge had some of that Colombia Faver Ninco after letting it rest a bit more and it was absolutely wonderful 👌

[tight gorge]

Nice, have yet to dig into mine. Been mowing through my ET backlog

[short condor]

ET?

[tight gorge]

Exposure therapy

[shadow torrent]

is it happening with most coffees or just the most recent one?

[dull adder]

The pressure sensor is plumbed in to the wrong place on that machine. So you can't really do pressure profiling. And I'm not sure if it has flow profiling? But if it does it would still be limited because of that.

Just an fyi

[dull adder]

Are you swirling at the end? That's like a guaranteed way to clog the filter and stall out the brew

[mellow sonnet]

I only agitate the dripper on coffee that isn't rested enough to get more air out

But def shake not swirl

Swirl somehow pushes the fines to the filter and clogs it every time

[shadow torrent]

also swirling isn't a thorough mechanism for saturation

to reduce fines migration while ensuring saturation i wwdt suuuuuuper slow

[desert stirrup]

I’m just hoping @neon scaffold sends us a video of him brewing with his bear naked feet in frame but out of focus

Nothing better than drooling over some good feet while you flame a man’s skill to pour hot water over ground beans

[neon scaffold]

its happening w/ multiple

[neon scaffold]

ive definitely swirled many times but ive stopped to try and reduce clogging

lemme see if i can take a video i have no tripod need to get creative and find a way to show off my feet for @desert stirrup

[boreal solar]

Want to see my broken toe?

[neon scaffold]

@tight gorge @shadow torrent @mellow sonnet @dull adder @desert stirrup

clogging tutorial out now (no obligation to watch/critique):

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1m0qGVtokAOdOp92_AwXPiCPkZeD1fOnk/view?usp=drive_link

[crude citrus]

Pro tip: start your timer even later so your brew ends faster

[crude citrus]

I’m afraid to ask for context here

[mellow sonnet]

U def pour with high flow rate I would def slow that down at least for the first pour or 2

[bitter kestrel]

Agreed. And why such a large bloom? Exceeding 2x could be driving more fines into the filter above the bed (i.e. extra agitation before you start your pours). You can always do multiple smaller blooms that just wet the bed and don’t cause it to rise so much.

But all that said, nothing wrong with water leftover. Last part of drawdown is often not super desirable flavors. You can cut off most POs early and add bypass with same or better cups.

[mellow sonnet]

Bloom should be enough to wet the coffee 2-3x is plenty I usually just do 3x weight for consistency

[dull adder]

I normally do around 3x but I'm also no expert in pour over

[bitter kestrel]

I suppose if you’re often brewing fresh UL … otherwise, I let the bubbles and drainage dictate. And that can be hard to see with a big all-in-one bloom.

@neon scaffold do you have a Melodrip or anything to disperse your pours (even bloom)?

[neon scaffold]

sweet i will thanks a lot

[neon scaffold]

no i dont, i can try with a spoon tho

[bitter kestrel]

I’m bad at pouring. I bought a Melo knock off from AliExpress. I usually pour everything over that and find it really improves consistency. I also just don’t have to think about technique at all.

[neon scaffold]

i would love to actually get good technique first AND THEN go melodrip instead of just switching first

[boreal solar]

Melo usually works best with a traditional bloom anyway. And that seems to be a problem with hour technique.

[bitter kestrel]

I think even “good” technique only matters so much when the coffee itself is a huge variable. After trying lots of recipes, I’ve found that the 2x bloom + long wait + 1-pour method is most consistent and fastest drawdown. Or just join the soup cult and enjoy all the spare time.

[mellow sonnet]

Sometimes I dgaf and high flow rate my pours but my blooms are always slow controlled pours regardless of the other pours

[bitter kestrel]

(Y’all we’re losing everyone with all this off-topic coffee chat)

[neon scaffold]

im gonna slow down my bloom pour and go for 2-3x dose instead of 3-4x

[sinful patrol]

Hey all--is there a thread already set up for WoC SD? Or is this the one?

[bitter kestrel]

I started one and then deleted it since no one posted

[sinful patrol]

Dang. Was hoping to find a list of all the happenings and local shop rec's

[bitter kestrel]

I mean, the cool kids are in here. I think there have been some crawl lists already posted. Biggest happenings are SEY party (which now will feature Lance) and Ondo has an Airbnb(?). You should start a new thread. You’ll likely get more engagement. Several of us are officially Weber guests, so we’ll hang with you! (swag bags with free Roadrunners?! 🥹 )

[cedar otter]

Was driving home from the roastery and saw no line outside

[desert stirrup]

I see the problem

there was no feet in the video

If you show us your feet the coffee gods will unclog your life

[neon scaffold]

Check dms

[desert stirrup]

seriously though my input would be:

1. Level the coffee bed before bloom
2. If you haven't already, watch this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nxmrSgwW25g
3. Try to hit an exact number for your bloom it would aid in consistency. Having an exact number and trying to get within 5g of that will help in terms of consistency and troubleshooting rather than aiming for "2-3x" bloom. That's a ~20g difference you're brushing off.
4. For this coffee you may be better off doing two pours to reduce agitation. 1 pour to hit that 60g bloom, then another long pour until you hit target weight. I have found amazing success using Lance's 1-2-1 framework with a 1:17 ratio and I also think it's because I also favor the high aromatic and pulled apart flavor notes. I only add more pours when I need more extraction say for an iced coffee brew or if it's a washed ultra light

I think you're just agitating too much. So either change your pouring technique via the suggestions in the video I linked or do only one pour after the bloom.

Today I fucked up and didn't zero out my scale before the bloom so I ended up accidentally doing a 3 pour recipe. My brew looked exactly like your video. The final ~25g took like a solid 1 min to drain.

[desert stirrup]

hahahahah

Perry out here thinking in 4 dimensions man

[desert stirrup]

I got a new job and it's a message manager for a foot OF account. I used to not be a foot guy but after messaging all these feet obessed dudes I'm starting to see their point now

[vivid violet]

Only Feet is so anti-metric

[lone pier]

anything i should do in alhambra before i leave

hitting yama ofc but don’t know if there’s anything else i’m missing

[mellow sonnet]

Yihui? Idk if monolith open on weekdays yet

[lone pier]

how’s the coffee at monolith? i saw an instagram video randomly, the space looks really nice

[short condor]

What do you mean by that ?

[weary chasm]

I thought it was soft opening. Sat sun only

Yihui seems like the goto. I hear some people like uncle Fung

Maybe Molly Tea

[short condor]

You’d hate my brews I love me a large bloom 🙃 I bloom with a 100g and then divide the remaining pours into 3 parts with little to not agitation from melodrip.

It’s definetely not everyone’s cup of tea but i I like it.

[glossy sail]

its okay so far. soft opening fri-sun. yihui is also ok. dont think their PO is on par with ondo

[neon scaffold]

thank you man you rock. im gonna give it a go with a 3x bloom exactly every time and play with a 1-2-1. the coffee i have rn is generally light/ultralight

[lone pier]

thought this said GTO (game theory optimal) and didn’t question it. i need to take a break from poker 😂

[lone pier]

sounds like i’ll get yama and a pour over at home lmaoo

[glossy sail]

if you liked mixed drinks then they are worth going to - cloudy foam spro tonic tea creations - along those lines

[lone pier]

that actually sounds pretty nice yeah

side question, i’ve only really had cluck2go for hainen chicken, is savoy next level?

[glossy sail]

go to ipoh

its also on garfield/valley

[lone pier]

man this looks fire but closed on wednesdays

unlucky

[civic crest]

#1228081171649400912 message

[cedar otter]

Camelia-sonoratown-pizzeria sei-in n out-luv2eat-erewhon-angel’s tijuana tacos-sugarfish-holbox-langers
How did I do as a host?

[bitter kestrel]

Maybe I’d love them! Just seems like getting into the brewing rather than the CO2 release at a certain point. But the best flavors always come out at the beginning. Yum yum bloom water

[crude citrus]

Savoy isn’t next level. I think cluck2go is better

[vivid violet]

i love cluck2go near PCC

i agree, Savoy (on Valley ?) isn't as good

[lone pier]

sweet i’ve just been getting the most targeting reels lately and fomo is making me question all my food decisions

[vivid violet]

although i am lazy, and Cluck2Go is a lot closer.

[mellow sonnet]

ive driven by cluck2go so many times

maybe ill try one day

[vivid violet]

i think delivery is also pretty good, although pickup when it's fresh is best.

i think my bar is lower than yours, but still think it's tasty 🙂

[lone pier]

cluck2go to go?

[desert stirrup]

tasty or nah?

[cedar otter]

A little greasy?

[desert stirrup]

are we talking about the cinnamon roll or whatever the sell at that bakery?

[compact hound]

Cant ask for more than that

[desert stirrup]

a wide representative spread of LA food scene. I think that you did great!

[cedar otter]

Yeah

[desert stirrup]

RIP your wallet

[cedar otter]

He didn’t charge for his coffees for the popup

[compact hound]

Anybody here got a distribution tool i can borrow for a day

[compact hound]

Wild

[cedar otter]

Yeah so I was like aiite imma pay for everything

[compact hound]

Good friend

[vivid violet]

i can definitely loan you my 58mm one, if you'd like..

but i'm all the way in Pas

[lone pier]

dam i need this

[civic crest]

The chicken was good, small portion. I also like the roti, laksa, char kway teow, and Kaya toast there

[desert stirrup]

It's next to the gear pump, located at the rear of the machine, rather at the grouphead where you can read with high fidelity how much resistance the puck is giving

Also Data S is like $4k after you add the scale and tablet. I find you are getting an objectively worse functioning machine with even less software perks. Data S can not connect to visiualizer nor is the community as vast as Decent. Plus, we don't know how these machines fare over time and with repairs so take that risk as it is.

If you're down to drop cash, wait for Bengle to release or Met to mature. If you don't have cash moneyz wait for Bengle to release to buy a refurbished decent, buy the 20% decent available rn, or buy it used. Also contemplate buying gaggiamate or gaggiuino

[dull adder]

Yeah this. So the pressure sensor is not reading the pressure at the group. It's more like adjusting the OPV than actual pressure profiling

[glossy sail]

Ipoh breakfast.

[mellow sonnet]

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/828377382902946/

crazy pickup

[shadow torrent]

i have a suspicion there's something off with the filter

hard to determine unless you get a few from someone whose brews don't clog as much for the same coffee

imo the pour height and rate seem fair. not something that'll necessarily cause a brew to be 6 mins on its own

4x bloom is my goto. in fact 3-4x something I'd recommend for thorough saturation

higher pour rate doesn't automatically mean more fines migration unless it's done for the same time duration as a low pour rate (which it usually isn't), and even then it's hard to say for sure without testing. but the fact that you're pouring that low makes me think that kettle stream isn't the main culprit. ime you'd have to arguably hold the stream significantly higher without breaking to cause the amount of clogging you're observing

[neon scaffold]

weird, theyre just t90s and ive replicated the issue w abaca as well

[mellow sonnet]

Hm maybe u can try using a spoon and angle the flow to the wall of the dripper and pour with the valve closed

And then open after you're done pouring

[neon scaffold]

gonna start with less agitation on bloom and less and slower pours and then give that a go

[shadow torrent]

@neon scaffold same approx recipe as you with pour rates and bloom kept similar. the only difference is this is a T-83 filter, which is significantly slower than a T-90

same pour height as much as i could tell from your video

delish brew though

[neon scaffold]

damn thats wild. tbh i liked the brew i got this morning too but that tbt looks right

smaller dose def helps instead of my 20g

[shadow torrent]

another thing to check is if you got abaca plus instead of abaca

[desert stirrup]

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1024068777460361/?ref=product_details&referral_code=marketplace_general&referral_story_type=general_listing&tracking={"qid"%3A"-7186167548508232478"%2C"mf_story_key"%3A"8326057435818771269"%2C"top_level_post_id"%3A"8326057435818771269"%2C"commerce_rank_obj"%3A"{\"target_id\"%3A8326057435818771269%2C\"target_type\"%3A6%2C\"primary_position\"%3A0%2C\"ranking_signature\"%3A0%2C\"ranking_request_id\"%3A2463151114635501872%2C\"commerce_channel\"%3A1000%2C\"value\"%3A0.0012964910323111%2C\"upsell_type\"%3A129%2C\"candidate_retrieval_source_map\"%3A{\"34370478395930521\"%3A3615%2C\"26410636078575162\"%3A3614%2C\"26267302896242989\"%3A3615%2C\"26389429014022157\"%3A3614%2C\"25596828299997001\"%3A3001%2C\"26470790482514911\"%3A3001}%2C\"grouping_info\"%3Anull}"}

Guy is selling a Versalab and Strietman

[shadow torrent]

and also if zp6 was seasoned enough in case it's the kind of burrs that gets reduced fines generation at the same grind setting upon seasoning

[mellow sonnet]

Versalabs are terrible on your ears

Makes good coffee

[cedar otter]

My man is having a full American experience

[neon scaffold]

pretty sure just abaca, bought them at ondo

[desert stirrup]

I thought the new America-maxxxing experience now includes witnessing or, if you’re lucky, even being part of the gustapo kidnapping scheme 💀

[cedar otter]

I also took him thru skid row and macarthur park

[desert stirrup]

Hell yeah

Hopefully he comes back when the US isn’t a shithead ran state or at least when LA has more housing and trains and bike lanes

if LA wasn’t car dependent

[boreal solar]

The bike lanes in rancho are there. But they're so weirdly designed and california drivers use them to pass vehicles on the right almost killing those unfortunate to use then.

[desert stirrup]

Yeah exactly why those "bike lanes" are death traps

"bike lanes" = protected, separately graded infrastructure

Anything else and it's a joke. A deadly joke

As we have all most likely witnessed with our own eyes unfortunately

I strive to make it something in my lifetime to see LA in its car free and utopian potential before I die

[boreal solar]

Thankfully I live on the pacific electric trail so I can just bike up there.

[desert stirrup]

I actually see it vividly in my mind's eye

[boreal solar]

whenever I ride up one of the main streets here there's a 30% chance I'll have a close call with someone turning right on red seemingly trying to take me out.

[desert stirrup]

I see myself waiting for an at grade but separated light rail at a station. The clear 75F LA sun bathes over my skin and now mostly grey head with warmth. I feel the ocean breeze blow through my over shirt cooling me off. The train arrives. I'm in the train, it's safe, busy, lively with high school kids laughing and being jackasses. Everyday adults simply lost in thought. Young parents pointing outside for their children to see the view.

That's when I turn my gaze to the window and see the rolling hills of LA brightly lit, studded with homes of all sizes and a plethora of green spaces fly on by. Maximum one lane roads, evevated rail lines, separated bike lanes, wide sidewalks full of all sorts of people. Living. Not surviving. Not struggling. Simply living. All this interweaving into a complex yet beautiful tapestry of what it means to call oneself an Angelino, whether for a few days or permanently.

I just hope to achieve that it doesn't require another country bombing us to oblivion, or a 9.0+ earthquake, or bloodshed.

Alas, the US (and humanity as a whole) doesn't seem too keen on rectifying solutions until the situation is quite dire and terrible.

[short condor]

I thought that might be what you guys were referring to, personally it’s not a big deal in that factor, there are only 3 machines on the market that measure at the group so it becomes a bit of a moot point. For the software even decent had to start somewhere to be able to grow and market is growing for these type of machines. The delay from the sensor vs the group is only a .5-1.2 second which can make a some difference I won’t disagree there but it’s borderline splitting hairs at that. I’ve seen plenty of visulizer videos on it and it says so on the site and like every video I’ve watched. Everything looks like as live data as you can get for not measuring directly from grouphead.

MET is ideal and I’d love it but everyone having the issues right now have me a bit hesitant. 2.5k and has tablet and scale ain’t bad and they run sales on their websites from the looks of it.

But the bengle is definetely nice but I don’t feel it’s a 5k price point after taxes and shipping. Hell my prima doesn’t even feel like 5k price point new aside from aesthetics and steam power.

I’m gonna play with a wendougee this weekend at a friends place so I’ll report back on the pros and cons of actual usage. Maybe it hits maybe it misses, we’ll see.

[boreal solar]

The bengle is sort of a weird spot for me as a DE1Pro owner. Sure it’s nice. It’s an aesthetic upgrade and it should be quieter. But I don’t think it’s worth double the price or worth upgrading quite yet. Maybe the next iteration? I don’t know

The met is also hella tall if you haven’t played with one.

[left kite]

Met do be a tall boi

[vivid violet]

if you'd like to brew on the Met to test it out, you're welcome to come by and play with it.

the Bengle price point is pretty high..

but it's also nice to have such flexible brewing + steaming all in one.

[dull adder]

It's not a delay, it's fundamentally measuring something different. Unless I'm misunderstanding what you mean by delay.
It's something you might not really notice or care about until you really figure out profiling. But it will prevent you from doing a number of things that people use regularly on the Decent

[short condor]

Not trying to sound like an asshole but educate me what is it measuring that is fundamentally different ?(legitimately asking for a better understanding)
If it were measuring pressure in the tank/boiler I’d agree entirely but it’s measuring at the outlet from my understanding to feed live info to the tablet. (Edited)

the measurements at the group yes are gonna be much more accurate and that’s what the decent does and excels at including reading the lack of pressure for data.
Saying delay is probably a piss poor way putting it but made sense in my head using that to describe the difference and that’s my bad.
I don’t doubt what the decent can do when measuring pressure at the puck but I also don’t think that saying the wendougee is not pressure profiler when it’s reading pressure directly at the outlet of the gear pump is accurate either.

Now I have no dog in this fight especially comparing the two side by side and owning neither and only ever having used a decent(yet). But I feel like given everything it can do it should still meet the criteria of pressure profiler just not as accurate/ efficient of one the decent.

[dull adder]

You're good, it takes more than that for me to be bothered online haha.
From what I understand the Wendougee doesn't measure downstream of all flow restrictions, so it's not measuring the pressure the coffee experiences it is instead measuring the pressure that the flow restriction experiences. I only speak with a little caution as I haven't torn down the machine myself, but I've read such online and then confirmed with Lance whom I trust.
The two most immediate limitations is pressure based exits (especially on "pre infusion" (bad term but I digress)) and pressure limiting on flow profiling.

I'm reminded of the Synesso ES.1 which has the same fault. On that machine it measures pressure without a portafilter even in the group

https://youtu.be/fcmmhaMq2uQ?t=1m55s

At this timestamp you can see what I mean. There is a portafilter but no coffee. It should read zero bars, instead it's showing 3.5 and 9 bar.
(Edit: 5:55 shows this without a portafilter)

Another limitation is if you aren't building enough pressure with the coffee, it would get weird. This isn't uncommon with the LC and ULC profiles from long

E61 machines also have this issue unless you plumb the pressure gauge into the screw hole on the group

[crude citrus]

Is it accurate to say that it is what pressure the pump is pumping at vs the pressure felt at the group head?

[shadow torrent]

not necessarily no

[earnest robin]

It will have issues only at low pressure, as soon the back pressure from the puck is higher than the pressure from the tube sizing it will show the correct number

Decent also had the same issues though. The accuracy at low pressures (lower than 1 or 2 bars) was very bad

At least that is what I remember when chilld had issues with his unit

[mellow sonnet]

Can u actually pull spro lower than 1bar? How would that work

[crude citrus]

If it’s less than 1 bar it’s probably not classified as a spro. I call it a yeet

[shadow torrent]

oh wait didn't realize you were asking in context of es1 and not in general. ignore ky comment

[dull adder]

To Rohan's point.. for which machine?
An E61 has an OPV and a gicleur both of which will change things.
I believe with the Synesso ES1 it's plumbed in behind their water mixing or something odd like that

[cedar otter]

Hola from Costa Rica

[crude citrus]

Yea I was referring to the ES1 and wendougee

[dull adder]

Yeah I think that's accurate to say for those machines

[desert stirrup]

Directly picking up some green yourself?

Dedication

I likey

[cedar otter]

Maybe a few coffees here and a few from Panama

[bitter kestrel]

Pura vida! Gonna tour any coffee farms?

[cedar otter]

Yesss

View from my window

[bitter kestrel]

Naturals + plantains for every desayuno … 😋

[boreal solar]

I’m loving it. 🙂

Get the McPinto, lol

[drowsy knot]

you touring any of willem boot’s farms in Panama?

[cedar otter]

Not sure

[drowsy knot]

I’m close with the co-owners of finca la cabra (his farm next to finca sophia) if it’s useful at all to make an intro lmk happy to. Would love to see their coffee in LA

[spiral arrow]

Cold brew time

[weary chasm]

My favorite cold brew machine (so far)

Haven't seen the hive

[spiral arrow]

i've been enjying it for a few years now. works great!

[spiral arrow]

what's the hive?

[cedar otter]

Hive is more of a commercial thibg

But it’s kinda like kyoto cold brew but faster and bigger

[cedar otter]

Is it david pohl?

[weary chasm]

Another cold brew maker

[glossy sail]

@cedar otter go steal some finca sophia

[spiral arrow]

I think this OXO one will last me a while

as long as I don't break it

[glossy sail]

@compact hound in his element

[spiral arrow]

Oh, where is this?

i didnt' know they had other locations

[weary chasm]

How do you use the cold brew concentrate? I only really like one cup... But then the rest feels wasted. Lol. Unless it's a party

Then cold brew latte

[weary chasm]

Gardena yeems

[spiral arrow]

I make a batch, a concentrate. Then I dilute a portion of it into a jug.

Usually takes about a week to finish the jug.
Then make another jug from a concentrate.

I can do this about 2.5 times before I had to make another batch of concentrate.

3 water : 1 concentrate

very simple recipe that works really well for me

when drinking, i usually add a bit of ice

enjoyed black, no milk or sugar

[weary chasm]

What beans do you normally use for this?

[compact hound]

Bro caught me creaming

[spiral arrow]

most of time.. i just use whatever i can get my hands on...
this batch and the previous one has been a mix of random leftover samples ... thanks to @cedar otter

if I am completely out of beans, and need a quick fix, I just go to local market (usually whole foods), and grab whatever.

grind fresh and brew immediately.

I don't like to think too much about cold brew.
Personally, as soon as I have to think too much for cold brew process, it loses it's attraction.

[weary chasm]

Oh OK.

I used to just use the most value. Lol

[spiral arrow]

exactlyyy

[weary chasm]

As in, trader Joe medium roast

[spiral arrow]

yeah yeahh that workss

[weary chasm]

$5/400g

[spiral arrow]

i've even used kirkland,

[weary chasm]

300g to 40 oz water

Not sure about Kirkland. It was dark dark

But.

I couldn't drink it any other way.

[spiral arrow]

yeah, that was... a mistake. lol

[weary chasm]

Improves the taste. Lol

[spiral arrow]

BUT cold brew is so forgiving

[dull adder]

You blowing up his spot?

[civic crest]

i thought it was mandarin

[weary chasm]

contain that rush

[drowsy knot]

john & lynelle lawrence of mudhouse coffee roasters

[neon scaffold]

is out of ordi good? looks awesome

[eternal birch]

is aight

me personally wouldn't wait over 10 minutes for it

[compact hound]

Agreed

[dull adder]

https://www.reddit.com/r/TeslaFSD/comments/1rxnchs/update_fsd_v14224_sudden_disengagement_sent_me/

For the FSD fans

There is no way to react in time to this even if your hands were on the steering wheel

[surreal pivot]

Chat, I don’t remember GGiata’s chicken Caesar wrap being this awesome. Did something change??

[vivid violet]

wild. sudden disengagement usually comes from tapping the brake or turning the wheel..

i've never seen that happen, but i always have my hands on the wheel when it's driving, as it loves to run over stuff.

[dull adder]

It's crazy to me that the Tesla community always jumps at the driver and blames them.
The failure mode is way too unsafe. And it can't be that easy to accidentally disengage. Even if it is technically "their fault" that's insane

[earnest robin]

Victim blaming never gets old

[bitter kestrel]

This exact thing has happened to me every time I’ve used this mode when borrowing a friend’s Tesla (except I caught it before it hit the divider). Meanwhile, the autonomous mode in both of my Volvos has never failed even once (not as fully featured, admittedly).

[vivid violet]

totally agree. i'm also on the older version, and have never seen that happen.

only in really early versions in 2014 did it do super sketchy stuff like drive at a corner at full speed and then disengage 😅

how it suddenly disappears feels like a disengagement..

but the dude did say he didn't touch anything.

i definitely don't trust it fully, still feels like a drunk toddler

[dull adder]

The community used to have a name for those freeway interchanges where the car would just confidently drive in a straight line if you didn't take over..

[vivid violet]

i like how volvo was sooo much more careful with their approach.

[vivid violet]

it still does this at many intersections

total drunk toddler

[bitter kestrel]

Too careful. The new distraction alerts are driving me crazy. Can’t even pick a song on CarPlay.

[vivid violet]

needs to learn a thing or two from Uber ||murdermobiles||

[tight gorge]

Are the Tesla safety stats not to be believed? Honest question

Haven’t looked into them

[mellow sonnet]

My FSD disengaged and spammed alerts at a red light randomly last week

[dull adder]

What stats 😂😂

They hide everything

They won't even allow you to view their testing in Austin

Everything is redacted as "trade secrets"

[tight gorge]

Miles per accident

Or something like that

[tall frigate]

Nice warm day for garden work today.

@desert stirrup missing your opportunity to join Maxwell’s private vip only public community garden.

Tore out all the struggling spring plants to make room for the summer crop.

[dull adder]

I really want a ripe tomato that will come off the vine with the lightest tug. And then to make a sandwich with it

[drowsy knot]

no

I don’t think they’re outside the overton window for stat manipulation in the US but they are definitely massaged for positive outcome

[cedar otter]

I had it a few weeks ago and it was so good. It was massive tho

[tall frigate]

I'll let you know when they're ready. There comes a time in the summer where I can't keep up and I don't have enough family and friends in town to take them off my hands at peak ripeness before they are overripe.

[dull adder]

https://philkoopman.substack.com/p/new-tesla-fsd-safety-data

I think it borders on stat manipulation. Comparing general crashes to airbag events is a big one.
Also there's an open NHTSA investigation regarding Tesla's underreporting of crashes. Which hopefully hasn't been affected by Musk cutting budgets and staff lol

[cedar otter]

When costa rica cafe has better setup than yours

[rough crypt]

are the brews as good, though?

[cedar otter]

They have a cafe (hot food, coffee, pastries), then a bakery next door, then a pizzeria next to that

Same place

[cedar otter]

Dunno got a matcha

I cupped 60+ coffees today and didn’t wanna end the day w/ sus coffee

[rough crypt]

damn lol

[desert stirrup]

Dude the one week I had a Tesla as a rental, I tried FSD and the thing got tripped up from the merging lane disappearing when I was in the 10 ramp. Shit just floored it in a straight line and I barely caught it before I went straight into the barrier. Practically like the video you linked

[boreal solar]

Hopefully you had insurance.

[desert stirrup]

It’s absurd to me that CA or the US hasn’t banned Tesla from even offering this given the amount of problems it is having

[desert stirrup]

Insurance is a scam

[boreal solar]

I'm actually sort of surprised rental companies allow smart assistance.

[desert stirrup]

Small ones do, the large ones don’t due to the obvious liabilities

[boreal solar]

It is. Generally your credit card company or car insurance company covers most things.

Apparently its a good idea in certain countries though. I was reading it was a must in iceland for instance

[desert stirrup]

The credit card insurance comes in clutch

Especially on Chase’s sapphire line

[boreal solar]

yeah, I used to have the Reserve card but I dropped to Preferred this year because the perks didn't seem worthwhile.

most things just aren't what they used to be. Like Dash Plus, Uber, Lyft, and Priority pass are just useless anymore.

[bitter kestrel]

The farm I toured in Costa Rica straight-up, told us that they export all their best coffee and the locals are likely to get second best. But fresh as hell for whatever that’s worth!

[surreal pivot]

This is exactly why I feel like FSD and things like it aren’t worth it

Just drive the car yourself lol

[bitter kestrel]

In bumper-to-bumper, it’s a lifesaver. But also, just get rid of your car if you can.

[surreal pivot]

I don’t even like it in that scenario tbh

I’m not living outside of LA again in my life- car will be necessary.

But I did enjoy the freedom of car less life while living in Brooklyn

[drowsy knot]

yeah sadly I was pricing that into the window

[neon scaffold]

I drive stick it’s the like hand grinding of driving

I’m INVOLVED baby

So fun

[surreal pivot]

I wish Formula 1 still used manual transmission

[dull adder]

But DCT is too powerful

[dull adder]

What car?

[cedar otter]

Iono. My FSD driven miles are over 92%. I feel like my commute to and from Artesia would be unbearable if I had to drive my car all the time

[eternal birch]

yeah... my fiancee doesnt get that if we lived in Pomona and I had to commute to Irvine I would drive the car into a barricade

anything longer than like 15 miles is misery

La Canada to Artesia would still drive me a bit insane even with fsd

[neon scaffold]

Nb miata cheap slow and fun

[dull adder]

Lightweight, nimble, fun

[tall frigate]

I do 35 mi one way to one of the hospitals.

[dull adder]

I think NA>NB
But the whole lineup is great

[tall frigate]

But against traffic both ways so it’s usually about 35 min door to door.

[eternal birch]

35min is ok

[neon scaffold]

NA rocks too, just wanted something "slightly" newer since it's my daily (only car)

[eternal birch]

i think once u start going over 45 its bad

[tall frigate]

LA traffic is so unpredictable. It takes me about the same amount of time to travel to another hospital that’s 8 mi away.

[eternal birch]

my commute home is between 25-35minutes and im ok

[tall frigate]

So I just bike half the time when the weather is good and it’s light out.

[dull adder]

Oh yeah. In the case ND 😂

[neon scaffold]

i had an NC it was very comfy, someone hit me tho

[tall frigate]

Don’t love navigating the arroyo in the dark. Have had a couple residents try to relieve me of my bike.

[mellow sonnet]

I want a NC bc it's the tallest Miata and prob don't fit in them

[neon scaffold]

if u get one i have tons of friends who know shitloads about them. can help u foamectomy/drop the seat

[dull adder]

The couple times I've driven my friend's I fit just fine. Though he did convert it to a hard top

[mellow sonnet]

The real dream is a Honda S660 but those look impossible to get in the US

[neon scaffold]

i think you'll b fine

[eternal birch]

real dream is lc79 or troopy

[neon scaffold]

yea ive never even seen that car

could go s2k tho

[mellow sonnet]

S2k too popular

[neon scaffold]

$$$

[eternal birch]

they make these new and its indestructible but we dont get it here :((

pretty much manual everything though so not much to go wrong

[mellow sonnet]

Longgggggg

[eternal birch]

nice farolito

[surreal pivot]

Do you skip the fries?

[mellow sonnet]

Inhaled the fries already or what

[cedar otter]

For dinner, we asked our driver/guide to take us to a local spot

He took us to a burger place

[mellow sonnet]

I didn't know their iced drinks didn't use fresh spro

[compact hound]

Pretty much always

[surreal pivot]

This man gets it!

[compact hound]

If i want fries i just opt for a double double protein style instead

Im one of the few that genuinely enjoys in n out fries

But would rather get the cals from another burger

[surreal pivot]

I’d rather just finish the burger and get fries some place else 🤣

[boreal solar]

You’re like what 25-35?

Never say never. :p

[surreal pivot]

True but born and raised in LA. Lived in Brooklyn, Atlanta and Barcelona . All were incredible places to live, but there’s just no place like home.

Family is here, traveling during the holidays is like being force fed in n out fries

[compact hound]

Think im going to get fries next time out of spite

[surreal pivot]

They’re your arteries not mine

[dull adder]

Depends on the iced drink. Refreshers and iced tea is fine. But a lot of them do use espresso

[weary chasm]

Lol. Ethical beans

https://web.ethicalbean.com/coffee/EB2662571

[mellow sonnet]

https://web.ethicalbean.com/coffee/EB2662571

Their roasts are good for 1 year

And they gave it a cupping score I'm ded

[compact hound]

When we going to eat together

[mellow sonnet]

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/949578964104641/ 500$ niche zero

[boreal solar]

Trader Joe’s style. Probably flushed with nitrogen.

[mellow sonnet]

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/997209089496285/

Molar in the US? Wow

[vivid violet]

but how many avocado's number is it

[muted kindle]

that sucks, i am always afraid when the self driving disengages right before a wreck they would just blame the driver for disengaging.

[eternal birch]

dak noodles

[eternal birch]

we should sometime

this taco spot pretty good, lowkey underrated because of its location in little mexico

but also idk what youd wanna get, if we eat would it be LA or torrance/gardena @compact hound

[dull adder]

This is a bit unclear to me. Tesla seems insistent that they count it so long as the disengagement is within 4 seconds. But you have to take their word for it.
The recent cyber truck crash fElon blamed it on the driver disabling autopilot four seconds prior, kinda convenient timing.
Also fun fact, the cyber truck would take nearly 4 seconds to come to a complete stop, from the moment you start breaking

[dull adder]

This doesn't look like tacos?

[eternal birch]

tacos from little mexico

[dull adder]

I'm so confused, the picture you attached to that message is of nigiri

[muted kindle]

yeah.. but yet im still using my FSD lol

[dull adder]

It seems too convenient and tempting to ignore

[tall frigate]

no, it's tacos from little mexico

[dull adder]

https://tenor.com/view/get-out-of-me-head-smiling-friends-get-out-of-my-head-my-head-me-head-gif-7400622326871933876

[eternal birch]

some fideo

[compact hound]

Down to go to your hood too

Will dm ya soon

This spot is diff from my go to but same location

This one is better

Tortilla was fye

Not sure how consistent they are though

Will have to find out

[crude citrus]

In case anyone wants to know what’s in the QR code https://web.ethicalbean.com/coffee/EB2662571

Wait jk you linked it im dead i had a long day

Anyways funny how they hide what’s usually written on the bags behind a QR code and call it traceable. There’s nothing extraordinary about the info in the link lol

[crude citrus]

Always sus when the location is Los Angeles and the radius is dtla

[short condor]

I would argue the most underrated Caesar wrap in LA is from dialog on sunset next to bookshop. So good right price right size packed with flavor and comes with chips.

[desert stirrup]

Fuck me. I gotta ask

Where that be?

[short condor]

Wait till you learn about the hilux 😉

[desert stirrup]

What’s hilux?

[short condor]

Toyota truck that everyone in the world wanted but the us would t sell it due to regulations.

It now happens to be the choice truck of most terrorist organizations as well, they can support 50 cals and handle rockets being launched from the rear so they’re choice for nefarious deeds

@eternal birch is that a j cruiser or older land cruiser

[eternal birch]

land cruiser, but its still being produced new

[eternal birch]

right is jin jja roo

left is somewhere I just saw the guy who runs the infatuation ig

[mellow sonnet]

It's the pickup truck with the tilting bed to help you unload the bed and def not to angle anything launcher shaped upward

[eternal birch]

saw that lmfao

cementing itself in taliban history

[mellow sonnet]

On that note u guys saw the new Chinese Atlas swarm? That shit crazy

[glossy sail]

just saw the atlas swarm

thats pretty insane

[tight gorge]

In palmer luckey we trust

[desert stirrup]

I believe in staving off war with China until their population demographics are so fucked they literally just can not fight a war

Palmer Luckey is our next best option though

[weary chasm]

Interesting. I guess 10 years ago but still relevant https://medium.com/war-is-boring/the-toyota-pickup-truck-is-the-war-chariot-of-the-third-world-ea4a121e948b#.vtmbzz7tq

[tight gorge]

drones + robots is the future. Im less worried about China and more then countries we have fucked over worse getting access to more capable/cheaper weapons

[civic crest]

wth there is a line at petitgrain right now

[civic crest]

Spring break

[dry anvil]

Depends on your steam wand. Most youtubers only show the 1 hole wand technique since 99% of their viewers are using a low power home machine

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZBj9ejasCiI&t=12s

Watch this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mxALjb13b9U

Also try out this dude's no hands steaming technique to get an idea of what you are trying to achieve

If you have a linea or other dual boiler and a 4 hole tip

[civic crest]

Cinnie was intense today

[vivid violet]

Regent in HLP has some, but unfortunately i don't know of any places on the west side..

the Micra has some oomph 😅

[bitter kestrel]

I just remembered that 10 Speed offered cheap classes in the past. Looked them up and there’s another happening in a month: https://www.10speedcoffee.com/workshops

[compact hound]

I think about this cinnamon roll a lot

[crude citrus]

@tight gorge did you write this question

[lone pier]

thought that said hygiene/gooning at first

[neon scaffold]

Man Apollonia’s is no joke. A really nice classic NY style cheese slice. Brings me back

[tight gorge]

Secret pizza mannn

Apollonias rly good tho, sauce has a lot of flavor while secret is more subtle

I like subtle better

[tight gorge]

My boy got arrested yesterday

[compact hound]

I love that you keep up

Can’t wait for you to teach your son how to bonesmash

[neon scaffold]

I haven’t had it in years I gotta go back

[crude citrus]

I clearly don’t keep up bc I thought sloth got arrested

[surreal pivot]

Been praying for this 🤣

[mellow sonnet]

Bro shot an alligator for no reason

30 day stream clown ass

https://abc7-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/abc7.com/amp/post/eaton-fire-victims-bone-dry-altadena-lots-turn-abc7-side-receiving-bills-water-company/18783548/

That's me

I paid it bc whatever my house is done in 2 months but still it's ass to get billed for maintenance when I don't even use the water

I thought they charged me bc I have pipes and water at my place now

But apparently they blanket charged everyone even people with no pipes

Kinda shitty

[dull adder]

This link didn't work for me for some reason, so
https://abc7.com/post/eaton-fire-victims-bone-dry-altadena-lots-turn-abc7-side-receiving-bills-water-company/18783548/

[dull adder]

Honey?

[mellow sonnet]

dumb tracking in the link

[shadow torrent]

the usage of "third world" in the same sentence as "militias" is quite jarring

[cedar otter]

Yeah! Honey SL28

[dull adder]

Yeah I wasn't sure if it was the amp link or something else. I have a lot of extensions on my browser so I'm used to things not working lol

[earnest robin]

does it start next week?

[civic crest]

yeah my kids started today, but some people from out of town already have it

[short condor]

Alrighty folks I need a god damn sanity check..

How long should it take to swap out a a boiler heating element on a single group machine. Knowing that’s exactly what’s wrong with it and all the panels are already off it.

So we’re talking tests to make sure that’s the part is actually the problem and nothing else I.e multimeter testing for shorts and faults. Pulling the part out of the machine/opening the part. Putting the new part in and testing that the machine works properly to that point and the boiler will heat up and calling it good.

[dull adder]

Depends on the machine and experience? The E61 I worked on it would probably take a little while but not too bad. Maybe an hour? My La Pavoni it's maybe 30 minutes, and that's with the machine fully assembled. I have no clue with the Argos but probably it would take a while.

I could see 2 or 3 hours of labor being charged? Maybe more

[boreal solar]

https://grandparkla.org/vendorfest/ anyone know any of the vendors?

[desert stirrup]

So in Anduril we don’t trust

Motherfucker wants to be the arms dealer of the world

We’ve already seen what that leads to.

Black market deals to our opposition

Hell!

[boreal solar]

Y’all are going to get our thread banned. Simmer down.

[desert stirrup]

Sometimes the CIA will even gladly hand over our advance weapons to rebel forces then be confused on why those rebel forces are now our rebel forces

[desert stirrup]

You right

Palmer Luckey I bet is a pour over fiend

He gives off big V60 Ketsu energy

[desert stirrup]

Is that the raisin or cardamom bun?

[desert stirrup]

Do you pay your mortgage through BILT?

How is it? I pay my rent through them but I always wondered how mortgages work

[desert stirrup]

Ok but LaSorted tho

Had this yesterday while walking around Chinatown

Sauce on cheese to allow the sauce to reduce is a nice little move

Jammy almost

The cheese was melted but not split, in turns greasy due to it being protected from the oven heat

I do need to try Secret Pizza

[short condor]

I’m being charged 5 🤩

[tight gorge]

Idk, he had his first beer a few years ago

[dull adder]

That's probably reasonable. That's on the VAPE1?

I think I underestimated on the E61, I think it would have required pulling the whole boiler to access the element

[short condor]

I called 4 other shops and they all said it was overcharged 3 hour start to finish if they had to diagnose without knowing the issue.

[dull adder]

Well that sucks

[surreal pivot]

It’s just aight

[short condor]

The prima has two access points depending on model and mine has the easier one. Where it can be accessed from underneath, is rough because the billing hours are gonna fucking stupid it’ll be a third the price they’re going for in a fair market for the year.

[desert stirrup]

Damn I had a really good crisp from tip to crust on my slice

[short condor]

I noticed in the email they didn’t quote me when they said they were gonna so I have to accept some of the fault on my end.

[desert stirrup]

I was impressed and happy

Easily better than B&G

[surreal pivot]

It’s fine. Confident you will enjoy secret more

[short condor]

But I’m gonna try and talk with them to a 3.5 but I honestly thought I’d be paying no more than 6 maybe 650. I found a guy while I was calling around that I’ll try in the future if needed and he said I bought parts he’d do the work for 300 and I thought it was sketch at first and he explained he has the prima and it’s layout is the most user friendly for working on that charging that any for it was highway robbery :/

Also that answered this question if it hadn’t been already

[civic crest]

cardy b

raisin is good too

[crude citrus]

Roughly the same as before. You get a bilt account and routing number

[civic crest]

I got to go to diamond bar tomorrow. Anything off the 60 I should stop at?

[bitter kestrel]

Kinda less interested now because I’m scared of the Lance-heads making it impossible to move in the space. Thought we got a special invite being on EAF 😢

[tight gorge]

Yea gonna be whack then

[tight gorge]

No quite 60 but

Taco nazo and OG La Palma in El Monte
Churros don Abel east LA

[short condor]

Same thought process o just can’t think of too many spaces big enough if it’s open for all but if it’s held all day I doubt lance would also be there all day. But free coffee and brew your own is a bit of an interest. But I still don’t know what I’ll do for days to go.

Prices go up in April and I haven’t bought a pass or day. If this work on my prima comes to more than 1k idk if I’ll go down there. 200 for a day and 200 for a room and 100 in gas plus whatever I buy there that’s a hard sell on top of having to pay for that kind of fix. :/

[bitter kestrel]

I dunno. They made him a nice offer I’m sure to poach from Onyx. They’ll want to get their money’s worth for his debut. I mean, love him and all, just would rather taste the coffees and not fan boy

[mellow sonnet]

Visit the diamond bar hmart 🫡

Super hmart 🤧

[compact hound]

First time trying kuya lord

Rlly good but a bit pricey