Los Angeles/OC/San Diego 🌈

[mellow sonnet]

Likelihood of getting bought out by PE and then losing all your shares you were promised is insanely high bc u don't read the fineprint

[glossy sail]

thats Philz no? lol

[boreal solar]

Meh. As long as I make a profit

I’m actually a little bummed regarding ragdoll today. The place I was going to put my shop before I chickened out is finally being filled. 😅

[cedar otter]

Tomorrow

[glossy sail]

https://www.youtube.com/live/bbDWNzks8Io

that was fast

oh its livestreaming at 8pm lol

[short condor]

This looks fun!

I saw this deal earlier but was hesitant, bought on amazon before for a larger priced item and they never fulfilled the order. Company’s can put items up they don’t have in stock yet and then fulfill the order when it’s in. But since this one’s from timemore it seems like a better deal.

[desert stirrup]

Wait really?

Dawgg

Fml

wtf am I talking about

Your boy is asking about an investment opportunity while he’s unemployed 🤡

[cedar otter]

no lollll

I mean

one day?

I'm promoting someone to be an actual manager so I'll be even less hands on

so I'll probably focus on how to grow the business-- thru subscription, more roasting, and more collaborations

[short condor]

What made ya want to choose this area for the new location?

[cedar otter]

many reasons

possible expansion to OC

someone was selling a permitted but never operated space

we already saw that there were successful cafes in the area but no one really had coffee focused cafes

wanted to build a community around coffee lovers and coffee geeks in north OC just like how we built one in LA

[short condor]

That’s definetely hard to pass up, personally I hope more stuff opens up here in the valley/Woodland Hills area. Only a few “good” specialty shops up this way and the market is ripe for the shops to fit in.

[cedar otter]

for sure. Lynx I heard is doing good works

I think there's a potential market in encino/woodland hills area

but I dunno if we're ready to deal with the rich housewives

when did they release this color

lmao

it's SO UGLY

[short condor]

It’s less of them and more of their kids 🤦‍♂️ they order matchas and cream tops by the dozen. House roots is up this way too and a handful of places in Northridge. Lynx is a solid place like their selection and the fact they don’t rush the drinks when there’s a line. I’ll take quality of quantity any day.

[crude citrus]

It works if the whole kitchen is the same color

[elder vector]

you know what you've convinced me

[dull adder]

I'm curious who! But I'll probably find out next time I'm there

[boreal solar]

Looks a little better with the series one. But not much.

[cedar otter]

yeah please shhh before the official announcement

[desert stirrup]

fucking fire

This is very exciting

Oh also, I’m soon to list a fellow Aiden

Would anybody like a lightly used Aiden before I list it on the buy/sell channel or on FB?

I’m also thinking of listing my ZP6 and J Ultra

[mellow sonnet]

So when is picolot going to be on bar? 👀 Want to try before I open my bag

[cedar otter]

Lolll hmmm

I tried it today

Prolly needs another week of rest

[mellow sonnet]

I might drop by on Saturday

Going to OC bc my friend got a second rabbit and I wanna see it

[eternal birch]

its only really hydrangea and moonwake roasting in bay area right

and sweet mary(?) I think that sells greens

I need to go to good boy coffee (?) and paper son again

[dull adder]

Flower Child, minmax
There's a coro that Flower Child operates out of so there are others for sure but idk other noteworthy ones

[eternal birch]

neither have physical stores though right

[dull adder]

Ah no

[boreal solar]

Could ask Shenrei to hook you up while there. Lazy schnauzer is fun and he would probably appreciate the business.

Andytown still does the odd banger in a comfort spro sort of way.

Ritual, and four barrel etc don’t really hit for me these days.

[eternal birch]

ah right I forgot my favorite latte

leica coffee

[crude citrus]

Sweet Maria’s?

[eternal birch]

ah yeah that was it

sweet maria's is pretty cool though, I dont think I'll be in oakland this time

might hit up kaizen this time as well

[dull adder]

Royal Coffee is an importer, they also have a spot where they roast and serve their coffee. Though the one time I went I couldn't tell if it was COVID or them, that made the coffee flavorless

[eternal birch]

oh you know what, I think the coro they operate out of IS a physical location

its called coro coffee room

[weary chasm]

yes it is.

pretty chill hangout spot too

can get pourovers / latte

and essentially anyone that roasts there can have their products for display/purchase on the shelf.

https://www.corocoffeeroom.com/

anyhow. i don't understand cream top drinks. but they sell very well.

i guess its more like a dessert, than a drink?

[boreal solar]

I think a lot of it is aesthetics tbh

[boreal solar]

Best place to buy keyboards in the area? My nuphy 60 he just went batshit and started typing random characters making my MacBook unusable. Don’t really have time to take it apart and troubleshoot right now. Or is it better just to buy a cheap Logitech from Best Buy and order online? @mellow sonnet is the keyboard geek, iirc

Coding on my MacBooks native keyboard is pretty fail.

[mellow sonnet]

I think HE are super jittery and not worth fixing just swap out switches that are having issues

I still only use mechanical and in the world of mechanicals prob just get a keychron for prebuilts

[weary chasm]

oh. there's no same day delivery?

i guess we did talk about this in another channel

[boreal solar]

Indeed. 😂

I don’t feel like playing chicken with the Amazon gods

[weary chasm]

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/searchpage.jsp?id=pcat17071&st=keycron

should have it at your local bestbuy

maybe

the keychron

i have some issues with mech keyboards too...

bunch of them lying around. just like grinders...

[boreal solar]

Yeah… I have two different mechanical keyboards just sitting here that don’t work atm. I guess I could steel my wife’s Magic Keyboard and try to fix this after work. I was panicking a bit

Atleast it’s doing something. Firmware or a cleaning might help.

[cedar otter]

Maybe I need to dive back into keebs and outfit ondo 2 with prebuilt mech keyboards 😂

Sell switches

[weary chasm]

certainly niche.

so people will go out of their way.

[boreal solar]

Would be cool if you had demo units

[cedar silo]

Watermelon bomb from ondo coffee. Loved it and will definitely be back! 😁

[weary chasm]

Host some keeb workshop events where you get to try out a bunch of different keys...

Where you also conveniently have them in stock for purchase

[boreal solar]

Heh, went to our Best Buy. Nothing but $200 logitechs and steel series. Bought some compressed air while I was there though. Then to add to the morning I’m having got caught in hail in the parking lot, lol

[mellow sonnet]

The fire cleared out all my keebs

[boreal solar]

🙁

Did insurance cover them?

[mellow sonnet]

Hard to value them but I got paid out for them basically only bc no furniture

I mostly use my vintage Apple keyboard I found at a estate sale now though

Seems like every hobby the niche is going from modern and then floating back to vintage

Everyone going back to 49mm in coffee and in keebs everyone floats to Alps or topre

I'm at ondo and the health inspector is here and damn she's intense

[eternal birch]

alps meh

[mellow sonnet]

She take her job seriously

I think modern Alps are meh but the vintage ones are a whole diff world

[eternal birch]

I have vintage salmon (?) and orange

[mellow sonnet]

I'm on oranges in a M0115

[dull adder]

Microcenter isn't bad but it's far

[dull adder]

Considering the "switch" is just a magnet glued to a piece of plastic, does this really work?

[cedar otter]

Wyf

Wtf

[mellow sonnet]

She kinda mean and she sound angry for no reason

[mellow sonnet]

Ya most HE boards are hot swap w clips holding the switch in place and can be swapped if u have issues with the switch

As long as the issue is the switch and not the PCB though

[boreal solar]

Maybe she just came from Sqirl down the street

Also it seems to be working for now. I removed all the caps and attacked it with compressed air. Reseated them and so far so good.

Isn’t Sqirl the one with the moldy jam? https://la.eater.com/2020/7/13/21322591/sqirl-mold-jam-jessica-koslow-workers-unhappy-unsanitary-toast-los-angeles-news

Actually never mind. It worked for like five minutes and then started typing the letter x repeatedly.

[desert stirrup]

That’s 5 years ago and the restaurant is still standing

I’m sure everything is fine

Also have you guys seen this?

https://abc7.com/post/department-justice-hold-news-conference-palisades-fire-investigation/17963467/#

so it wasn’t a paragliding homeless man beating matches after all

[cedar otter]

It’s for artesia

[glossy sail]

@cedar otter Ondo 2 damage ugh 😩

[boreal solar]

Classic derp photobomb.

[cedar otter]

Lol I was like who bought the gesha candy

[cedar otter]

Coulda walked out with datura auromar, elida, and Janson if you came on Friday or Saturday

[glossy sail]

Don't tempt meeeee

My current bags at home is already insane haha

I haven't tried moonwake so wanted to see how their roast is like

[weary chasm]

Can always order online if you hit the free shipping threshold

[boreal solar]

I think Harry brewed me some moonwake awhile back. I’ve never boughten it though either. Would be interesting to play with.

[eternal birch]

is good

I can share some gesha next time

current work stash

[compact hound]

Feels weird seeing @mellow sonnet wear something that isnt pleats

[mellow sonnet]

Jokes on you the top is mainline issey so it's still issey just not pleated

[cedar otter]

Arroz & Fun always fire

Bolo Burger with crisp parm and aji sauce

[eternal birch]

dang that looks good

bookmarked

[cedar otter]

They had laurina from el salv los pirineos on the shelf

Very interesting

[cedar silo]

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/2189321601560726/?mibextid=wwXIfr

ek43 for $1k is p wild

[rough crypt]

wtf

that's a pretty awesome deal

[cedar otter]

is that 220v

[short condor]

I have never had a bad bag from Luna, really enjoy their coffees.

[cedar otter]

the man also has 2.5k linea mini

[eternal birch]

2500???

u gotta buy it

[cedar otter]

prolly fake

[eternal birch]

this is my first bag and I am quite surprised

[cedar otter]

or hacked

[cedar otter]

luna so good

[eternal birch]

very good roast, exceptional value

[cedar silo]

Idk it feels fake. No specs

[cedar otter]

nice question LOL

[eternal birch]

he copy pasted that shit

he did the ö

[cedar otter]

who the fuck spells mahlkonig as mahlkönig in usa

[eternal birch]

yeah LOL

sad that we have to use our brainpower to deduce stuff like that everyday

[cedar otter]

one of the owners used to be the green buyer for 49th parallel a long time ago

[eternal birch]

will try this december

[cedar silo]

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/3248785425277264/?mibextid=wwXIfr

I also found this if anyone is looking for an xbloom studio. I would have copped but my whole setup is all black 🥲

[short condor]

90 % sure Marcos a hacked account, I remember reporting him a few years back on facebook as a scam. They had a puq press and a few other items to buy but would only ship and was in Pennsylvania.

[eternal birch]

iirc theyre like four barrel type, one of the first third wave shops?

[short condor]

There’s a black one for sale with the plum in kit on offer up in Sherman oaks

485

[cedar otter]

that's in the middle of the ocean somehow

[short condor]

Thought about driving down for the white one cause there’s a guy selling a sculptor 78s down that way to in Newport

[eternal birch]

can you put your own ground beans in xbloom?

[cedar otter]

yes

[eternal birch]

hm

[cedar silo]

Oh yeah I saw that one I’m not driving to Sherman oaks for $485. you can get those for $300-400 used.

I haggled a bit but they wouldn’t budge. I’m not necessarily in market for an xbloom but for a good deal I’ll bite

[cedar otter]

just build a recipe w/ no grinding

[eternal birch]

ahh ok

may pick one up early next year then

[cedar otter]

some people do that

use their fancy grinder

[eternal birch]

its like 10mins for my PO process

[short condor]

I’m local to the area but they wouldn’t budge for me either tried make a fair offer without the plum kit

[eternal birch]

maybe longer by a little if I get distracted or have to wash something

[cedar otter]

you can even outfit a melodrip into the setup

and get some negotiator in and do crazy stuff

[eternal birch]

paragon ball time??

it does conical and flat too right

is the conical decent?

[cedar silo]

Yeah apparently the xbloom grinder isn’t bad at all. I’ve seen it compared to zp6 online. Good for someone who loves pour over but doesn’t have time for the routine in the morning. Or cafes that need consistent quality.

I think I’d be mostly interested in it to just test variables for brews faster

[boreal solar]

It’s closer to a lagom mini than a zp6. I’ve had both grinders in the past. It does a decent job but I get more clarity from the zp6 or my i200d burrs in my philos.

Ondo uses it at the Hollywood location as well. If you wanted to try a brew.

[left inlet]

Also Flower Child, Whiptail and a lot of other Micro Roasters out of CoRo. Roastery — CoRo https://share.google/dgzRgCZDLdoyRxpMU

[cedar otter]

anyone own a timemore 078s here?

or are we too fancy

minimum 2k grinders only

[left inlet]

Can visit the CoRo room to try some of the coffee's and Crown Royal in Oakland.
CoRo Coffee Room https://share.google/4fj5AiCkWfK3d3TW5

[left inlet]

I own the 078 with turbo burrs that I use for pour over. After last night's stream, I am eyeing the Option-O P80 for espresso.

[boreal solar]

@crude citrus has one.

[crude citrus]

Hello

[left inlet]

After reading through the thread, I realized Matt already covered CoRo and Crown. I liked Whiptail, which is a brand roasted by the manager of CoRo. His coffee's profiles seem well executed.

[runic heath]

Bump, wondering the same. Will be in Shanghai in a week

Current list: blacksheep, mobydick, right here right now, lucky draw, OPS

[vivid violet]

not a coffee shop, but this restaurant in Shanghai was freakin amazing:

https://maps.app.goo.gl/4x4CkqAP31Zt2Y9s5

[cedar otter]

Should I get one for ondo

[lunar fjord]

RHRN was amazing

like going to an extremely knowledgeable's friend's house for coffee rather than a shop

luckydraw I thought was decent

mobydick no strong feelings

except they sold out of literally everything so I couldn't bring a bag home

[boreal solar]

To use or sell?

[cedar otter]

Use

[boreal solar]

Hmmm flavor wise it’s good. Personally I’d be worried about volume unless it’s decaf or one specialty bean and won’t see much love. In which case it’s fine.

Sculptor brushless motors are designed to be quiet but aren’t exactly workhorses

[cedar otter]

Haha I’m thinking of dedicating 1 grinder for “clean” beans

Bc we’re probably gonna get more co-ferments in rotation

[boreal solar]

It looks like the motor was upped to 400w for the 078s. It would probably handle lower volume commercial settings.

So if it’s the odd pour over or shot in a rotating menu it’s probably fine.

It’s a lot cheaper than something like a p80.

Philos might also be interesting. Mazzer rates it for commercial use and it has nsf certification.

[cedar otter]

ooh

them health inspectors love nsf cert

[mellow sonnet]

health inspector yesterday

[boreal solar]

I’m sure he’s fine. Health inspections are pretty typical

[mellow sonnet]

lady was intense

[cedar otter]

Meh

[boreal solar]

The San Bernardino ones know nothing about coffee and it used to give me a chuckle

I remember she looked at the grindmaster 875 I had hanging out at the roastery and was like “oh and that’s where you keep your beans” and marked it safe.

[cedar otter]

This one said “cooling” is not allowed

She said we can’t make simple syrup

Because that’s a health code violation since we’re a moderate risk facility

They’re like you have to buy everything prepackaged

[boreal solar]

Solution is they you need to move to SB county clearly.

Do they want a full fledged kitchen to do anything at all?

I had that problem. One of them was insistent I needed a full commercial kitchen to package my roasted coffee beans.

[cedar otter]

Yeah

[boreal solar]

Heh, I always thought that was silly

[cedar otter]

She’s very new at the job

And just memorizes everything

[boreal solar]

You should find a cheap space in an industrial area with kitchen for baking for locations. Roast from there as well. 🤷‍♂️ rent the kitchen to caterers etc.

Hold cuppings and events there

[desert stirrup]

Does anyone here use Tidal or Qobuz?

I realized I only listening to music on Spotify and 99% of the time it’s just albums from front to back. So Spotify doesn’t really make sense for my needs

I heard Tidal is very similar in usage and features just music forward

I also want to pay the artists who make what I enjoy

I think that’s pretty cool

[tight gorge]

https://discord.com/channels/726985544038612993/1122614417159360672

[desert stirrup]

I don’t have access to that channel it seems

[tight gorge]

Yeah you have to be an eaf addict to get access to

[desert stirrup]

Damn I’m kind of active

So I thought I’d be allowed everywhere

[weary chasm]

Hm.

[boreal solar]

You need to branch out a bit. The mods give the role when they notice you’re active in the community. They probably just don’t spend much time in our little channel

[weary chasm]

Oh I see you have to be at least orange

Well. That role associated with orange

[mellow sonnet]

time to be a bana degen

bana moves too fast for me

[boreal solar]

The irony is that after being a reg most of those posters are less active in the part of the community that they were promoted for 😂

[tight gorge]

I gave up on bana once they started changing the names everyday. I don’t want to solve a riddle every time I wake up

[mellow sonnet]

i miss old bana

[cedar otter]

Not the new bana

[mellow sonnet]

i lurked old bana all the time and found ondo selling aviary 04 through lurking

[cedar silo]

Anyone have advice on making water concentrates at home? I have all the minerals I need I think

I think I need to make some buffer and mg drops

[mellow sonnet]

zero water pitcher and then that one spreadsheet

[cedar silo]

Where could I find that spreadsheet?

[mellow sonnet]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Vk5TXlev-2tK0TJmfbrL6zTc82r8z_Cg4yD_ikvf8zg/edit

i think water concentrates are too much work and postbrew remin is easier and requires less math just taste and add drops and taste again

[vivid violet]

me neither. and thought i was quite active 😅

[cedar silo]

I made a 10000ppm concentrate mix of Vera salt, mg and buffer that I just drop in before brewing with a few drops

Just wanted to see if I could make some mg and buffer to adjust ph and sweetness of brews if needed

[cedar silo]

Thank you!!

[mellow sonnet]

ondo ufo spotted

[cedar silo]

Yes! Got the last one 😁

I love it. Super fun to play with

[boreal solar]

Are you back now?

[mellow sonnet]

still not a ufo owner yet 😪 maybe eventually

[cedar silo]

And was very validating to see winner of SCAJ brewers cup using a ufo

[desert stirrup]

Dude hit up #water-table ! The people on there are super duper helpful

[mellow sonnet]

ya that spreadsheet is pinned in watertable lmao

[desert stirrup]

I mean I’m somewhat active on #zerno yet I still don’t have access

Wack af

[mellow sonnet]

u gotta be active with where the mods are in

aka bana

[desert stirrup]

There’s this one guy in water table who was up at like 2am and very responsive to my needs

Those are the heroes of our society

[desert stirrup]

I guess I’ll hit up bana and start chit chatting up the raccoons

Is this bana?

https://discord.com/channels/726985544038612993/1310053374061707274

[mellow sonnet]

regular is a badge of degen

[desert stirrup]

Is the channel that @tight gorge even worth becoming a degen for?

[mellow sonnet]

no

bana channel is locked

bana 2 will never be what bana 1 was

but yes its bana

[desert stirrup]

What makes bana 1 legendary?

[desert stirrup]

Ngl might just download a free trial of Tidal

Talking to internet raccoons is too stressful

[glossy sail]

@cedar otter ferans in town. Said he'll try to stop by if he can haha

[mellow sonnet]

sheeeesh

[low mantle]

If you want cafe reg most people just casually ask a mod when they engage in a chat with them. It’s usually freely given out so long as you aren’t always causing problems.

[dull adder]

I used to use Qobuz... in not the most legal sense

They're cracking down 😩

[desert stirrup]

Heh?

There’s a cracked sub somewhere??

I’m thinking Tidal given it has a better algorithm and exploration features

[dull adder]

They have lossless and even 24 bit and weren't too strict on security. Lovely place

[mellow sonnet]

spotify used to have cracked apks too

[desert stirrup]

Well I’d like the artists I listen to to be paid

So I’m down to pay

[dull adder]

I wouldn't know about discovery features for them. I use a weird combo of Bandcamp, YouTube, private websites, review websites.

[dull adder]

For sure. I go to lots of shows and buy merch.
I'm not sure streaming, unless it's Bandcamp, really pays that well anyways

[mellow sonnet]

jpopsuki 🫡 my one and only

im lazy now and dont want to bother with storage anymore

[dull adder]

Rip

At least the OG, I don't keep track of them anymore

My name on Discord is a reference to my name in those communities

[mellow sonnet]

jpopsuki went full private but i think its still up

i havent look

[dull adder]

They shut down for a bit

[cedar silo]

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DPUVBZKAY0d/?igsh=NTc4MTIwNjQ2YQ==

all this for under $1k is wild

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[mellow sonnet]

tagging weberworkshops is wild

[cedar silo]

Did they do that??

Oh wait they did

Wow

[cedar otter]

Yeah haha

[cedar otter]

Omg throw back

I had so much FLAC files from there

[mellow sonnet]

yeah jpopsuki was so good

i had so much storage filled though

[cedar otter]

Same

I have external hdd’s and dvd-r’s somewhere still

[mellow sonnet]

mine burned

good thing i still have my ratio if i want to download them again

[dull adder]

I'd love to ambush him

In a loving way

But I need to get on with my day. I'm making al pastor tomorrow so I need to prep it today

[boreal solar]

I have a lot of external drives with god know what’s on them at this point. To be honest I could probably get rid of most of them.

[mellow sonnet]

mine had middle school homework saved on them too

i dont miss them

"what if i need it in the future"

couldnt bring myself to just delete

[vivid violet]

i threw out my 5.25" and 3.25" floppies a while ago. same 😂

[topaz zenith]

Definitely a good value grinder for sure. I already ordered a z2, so not going to get this, but I can see the motto 80 being really popular.

[crude citrus]

For 1 or 2? I think it’s a very easy to use grinder so your less experienced employees should have no issues with it. I wouldn’t recommend for filter bc sometimes I had to move the peg to get it course enough

[cedar otter]

Oh interesting. I was thinking of filter only.

[crude citrus]

Why the 078s over the 078?

[cedar otter]

I thought s had better burrs? Idk

Haven’t looked into them

[low mantle]

You want the turbo burrs for filter on the 078

I think besides for the burrs the main difference between the 078 & 078s is the 078s has finer adjustment for espresso range.

[cedar silo]

@cedar otter - how much lbs of beans did you use to season your 102 mizen burrs on the O1?

[cedar otter]

Nada

[cedar silo]

Gotcha. Some of the guys at BAC recommended seasoning so I’m going to try 😅

[boreal solar]

They’re both decent. 078 is the one with ghost burrs stock. The grinder has larger adjustments and doesn’t go fine enough for spro. 078s does spro and filter. The burrs on the 078s are decent for filter but preferred for light roast spro. Think SSP HU ish.

The coarse problem isn’t a problem as the peg is easy to move if you’re not going back to spro. But at that point the 078 is probably a may as well get more clarity choice

[eternal birch]

$300 niche zero acquired

[weary chasm]

looks good

[boreal solar]

Noice. That’s a really good price.

[weary chasm]

i should go full circle and get a niche again

[tight gorge]

Ah to be young again and lust for a niche zero while rocking a encore

[boreal solar]

My wife is envious. She liked mine more than my philos aesthetically

She thought it was cute.

I miss the retractable cord.

[eternal birch]

I just wanted something for fiancee's lattes

do chase clarity for PO

[tight gorge]

Just saying this was my endgame for years in like 2019. Hoffman bias

[mellow sonnet]

My apollon's gold tastes better without paragon

Too much aromatic or something

The grapefruit too strong

Brewed it on v60 today and it was better

Did colum, origami, and now v60

[crude citrus]

Just repeating what others said and I agree, for filler get the 078 for the turbo burrs. I’ve never tried them but theyre one of Lances fav burrs for the price

[low mantle]

Nice, that’s what I paid for mine too. It’s such a killer grinder for traditional spro.

Im hoping we will see a bunch of 078’s hit the second hand market soon with everyone jumping on the 80mm burr wagon.

[mellow sonnet]

I ran niche + de1 for a while but the spro profiles felt so boring

[boreal solar]

Some people like that though. They think it’s subtle. I agree though. Going from my niche to 64mm ssps was like a fruity floral smack in the face.

In a good way

[eternal birch]

niche + lever for classic italian spro probably goated

[boreal solar]

But the niche body was really nice.

[eternal birch]

tbh this is why espresso vivace and their jank ass setup was so good to my tastebuds

[rough crypt]

it really is (started with a niche+La Pavoni)

[low mantle]

The workflow is the best. I dont do wdt with it and i still have low retention.

[cedar otter]

Support your local drug dealer

[mellow sonnet]

Long time no kawa actually

Your shelves were kinda bare yesterday

U had to stock up the day after smh

[desert stirrup]

Never had that stage of life

Puberty hit hard man

Went from no grinder to Zerno

[desert stirrup]

Welp I spent many hours playing around with Tidal and Qobuz. What blows is how not much of their library is actually in bit perfect hi-res. A good chunk of it is actually in the same lossless format that Spotify is in.

Tidal outside the phone app is fucking ass. CarPlay and the TV app (googleTV at least) is dog shit. No joke, Tidal in my car was at 360p. So blurry and nothing would fix it.

Qobuz makes sense if you want to buy digital files. Their library is 90% of Spotify or Tidals but has not great generated playlist or discovery options.

It fucking blows to stay with Spotify as they aren’t the best company in terms of ethics

But now with lossless it makes it almost exactly what I need

[dull adder]

You mean like 24 bit?

Also what is 360p for music?

[desert stirrup]

Yeah 24 bit 192kHz

[desert stirrup]

No it was 360p on my screen

Like the resolution

Does that make sense?

[mellow sonnet]

Yeah well most audio platforms throw the video res out the window in favor of audio

Idk who actually watches vid in car

[cedar otter]

Me

Long drives

[dull adder]

I don't think most music is available in that format in the first place

[cedar otter]

Gotta put something on

[cedar otter]

I still wouldn’t call that bare LMAO

[desert stirrup]

Oh no I’m talking about the UI resolution was 360p

[cedar otter]

This was 3 weeks ago

That’s bare

[mellow sonnet]

Oh damn

[cedar otter]

Right now I’m YOLOing w/ tariff

[mellow sonnet]

The subtext markup was not bad tbh

[cedar otter]

I price my beans with tariff in mind and change them back lower if I don’t get hit

I wasn’t sure if DHL requires COD or they bill later like FedEx

But now with 4 DHL shipments, one def asked for advanced payment for customs/duties

So as long as I don’t get notified, I won’t need to worry (I hope)

[dull adder]

Wow that's wild

[mellow sonnet]

DHL always be asking me to pay first

[desert stirrup]

The library doesn’t have the be bit perfect but if Tidal and Qobuz advertise music format quality as their main feature and majority of their lossless library is the same as Spotify Lossless I feel a bit off on the value proposition. Especially when their other features are lacking compared to Apple Music or Spotify

Sucks

Cuz I don’t enjoy Spotify’s practices

[mellow sonnet]

I think apple car play just sucks in general when you consider all the diff screen resolutions and dimensions for all the cars

[desert stirrup]

What does the Hollywood location look like now ?

Just as good as Artesia?

[mellow sonnet]

The car manufacturers have very little incentive to have proper support

I know Hollywood location is closer for me but as a pourover enjoyer I'll be going to Artesia more

[desert stirrup]

Does Artesia not use the Xbloom?

[mellow sonnet]

Solo dripper and UFO

[dull adder]

Most musicians/labels use a tool to upload to all platforms. So if they choose to master and release it in 24 bit, Qobuz would have it. But that's not that common.
Otherwise yeah it'll be the same master and same files

[mellow sonnet]

Isn't it just apple that uses diff masters

[desert stirrup]

That’s what I heard!

[cedar otter]

Yeah

[desert stirrup]

I wonder how different Apple’s masters are

[mellow sonnet]

Picolot on bar in Artesia only right?

[cedar otter]

We’re gonna do handpours at Holly

[mellow sonnet]

[cedar otter]

Give us like a month or so

[mellow sonnet]

B75?

Or u getting more solos

[cedar otter]

Everyone wants to do it except like 2 people

[mellow sonnet]

[cedar otter]

So we might get rid of them

✂️

[mellow sonnet]

The employees or the xblooms

[cedar otter]

Employees

Anyway

2-3 coffees will be on xBloom and we will feature 1 or 2 coffees on UFO ceramics

[mellow sonnet]

Idk how to tell sherry but her new employees have weak pourovers compared to the older staff that have been there

[cedar otter]

Trying to buy Sibarist fast for UFO wholesale but they only sell 20 pack of 100

[mellow sonnet]

Sibarist on bar is wild

[desert stirrup]

@tight gorge I knew you hit me with the when I said this but I am listening to this rn. Such a slapper album and the separation of instruments is good! That and there’s a good amount of single channel sounds or the vocals being hit with reverb in silence. It’s fun!!

[cedar otter]

Saw it being done in Korea

If Korea can do it 🇺🇸 can do it too

[mellow sonnet]

Korea coffee culture a whole diff world tho

I haven't bought sibarist filters since my whole supply burned

I kinda want to go back but they pricey

[desert stirrup]

You are what makes America great

[cedar otter]

That’s why we’re only doing it for geshas and such

[desert stirrup]

I respect and appreciate this attitude

[dull adder]

I think sometimes, but at least with the music I listen to that's not very common.
Also Tidal has their "MQA" thing, or at least did. Which was a special format and also sometimes a different master. But that had a lot of controversy/snake oil

[cedar otter]

Someone ordered 6 Elida geshas

[mellow sonnet]

💀 crazy

I'm on a buy ban until I get my 2 auction lots from bill

Need to not fomo more elida

I'm also poor now bc I paid income tax for Q3 and then property tax

[cedar otter]

Time to open an llc and start writing things off

[mellow sonnet]

I thought about it last year

I don't have enough expenses to write off

I could write off PC and office stuff but like nothing recurring in terms of expenses for me to write off

[desert stirrup]

They got rid of MQA last year or earlier this year I believe. I never saw anything about that today on Tidal

[dull adder]

Ah okay good

I thought they did but couldn't remember

[desert stirrup]

Also my electrical engineering brain is tingling about a higher frequency for hi-res

If I’m correct humans can only hear 45kHz or around that

So wouldn’t it be moot if the file had a higher sampling rate?

I guess if someone threw down the loudness on the mixer and pumped up the volume to 100db+ then the range would make the higher sampling rate noticeable

[boreal solar]

So what you’re saying is that there’s still AG left?

[boreal solar]

I remember reading this exact same debate when monitors were jumping from 60hz to 120hz, 200hz or even higher refresh rates

[mellow sonnet]

Me on a 360hz 👨‍🦯

You notice 1% lows and frame drops more significantly for sure

Other than that I think it depends what game you're trying to play

[crude citrus]

Oh man I didn’t have a great experience today but I can forgive bc I stan mandarin. Another customer seemed to be annoyed though

[cedar otter]

High ceiling low floor

I aim for high floor medium ceiling

[boreal solar]

I sort of dig the little alley aesthetic. I’ll probably keep going as it’s easier to go to Pasadena than LA

[tight gorge]

What’s was not great about it

[crude citrus]

Nah the barista pulling shots couldn’t dial in any shot except house blend. They kept trying so order took a long time. My wife basically finished her drink before I got mine

Did feel bad for the barista as she cringed every time she started the shot

[mellow sonnet]

If all the old employees move to mandarin 2 I'll be sad

[crude citrus]

They did comp my drink in the end too

If I had known earlier I would told them to dial the EG-1 to 10, hit start, and give me whatever comes out at 60g

[cedar otter]

Tbf sherry has some unrealistic specs for SO

anything 2 or more seconds diff is tossed

[crude citrus]

They said they were getting a 45s shot

[cedar otter]

O

Jk

[crude citrus]

But I get it, they’re opening a new shop literally tomorrow and it’s new staff

[cedar otter]

Please tell me if yall get bad shots/brews ever at ondo

Be brutally honest with me

[crude citrus]

Tbf the house blend was a decent shot, just not what I look for in a spro lol

[vivid violet]

"SO" == SproOver, or just Spro ?

talking about long shots.. all these were freakin' delicious..

[mellow sonnet]

SO = single origin usually spro

As opposed to house blend

I think if sherry was there in person I would say something but idk if I would ever say anything to the baristas bc sometimes it feels like maybe I know too much about specialty coffee 💀

[vivid violet]

i guess it depends on the person, and also how you share the feedback. i think they would welcome it..

[cedar otter]

https://youtu.be/OXbQx2hfA5k?si=Rh0IFTbgkQgXCstV

[boreal solar]

Tanat roasting style?

[desert stirrup]

My man, every time I go to Ondo I have a damn fine experience. I go when I need to make sure my palette isn’t blown and it’s a skill issue

[cedar otter]

Fairly light but more dev than your hype ultraroast roasters

[trail tiger]

one time i had a PO but i think the outside cups had perfume/soap, so it threw me off when i drank it. brew was good though! just had an initial smell of perfume

[cedar otter]

Thanks for the feedback!

[dull adder]

Will do 😁

I'm usually quite satisfied though

[cedar otter]

I feel like you’re not difficult to please haha

I mean if you regularly go to Tasting at Ten

jk

[dull adder]

I actually didn't know why we use 44.1, this explains that well
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/44,100_Hz#Origin

Larger bit depth and higher sampling frequency are pretty pointless for listening. It's already so accurate at 16/44.1
I think it's mostly for studio work when editing music. I don't think loudness matters because a good amp should cleanly increase volume

[dull adder]

Oof.
I'm there to advertise Ondo 😭

[glossy sail]

LOL you sure? its been pretty good so far haha

i did give feedback to yihui at his opening and he tightened it up, i think with some advice from almondnoon too so thats been pretty good

[earnest robin]

I recently learned about 23.976 fps, 29.97, 59.94 numbers used for frame count or frequencies

It's 24000/1001, 30000/1001, 60000/1001 and was done to slow down them to avoid interference with older standards

[earnest robin]

There's better bana in regs

[eternal birch]

linea

dandelion sub store

[tight gorge]

Eka broooo

[cedar otter]

Cry detected bro

[tight gorge]

That’s Sofía yelling EEeeKkkkkAaaaaaa

[eternal birch]

interesting that dandelion is very into beans and they roast but they just use ritual beans

maybe the roasting/process is different

[mellow sonnet]

This aged wonderfully

[tight gorge]

I snuck in a 220v outlet for a future Bengle

[tight gorge]

For over a year I never went to regs, bana is all I knew

Bunch of randos over there

[mellow sonnet]

Yeah idk a lot of ppl in there

[tight gorge]

Can you run a 220v bengle and ek43 out of a single outlet?

[mellow sonnet]

Probably if you don't turn on the ek while the bengle is heating

[tight gorge]

Yeaaaa that’s my thinking too

Ugh

[mellow sonnet]

I think that's an accident waiting to happen though to be thinking about what's on/off

[tight gorge]

Yeah not gonna do that

[eternal birch]

welcome to orange @mellow sonnet

[tight gorge]

Frozen too

M**ds be lurking 👀

[elder vector]

went to Talitha today, I wish they had drinks that weren’t a tripple shot

[cedar otter]

Now selling stagg ekg pro

[fallen gulch]

fancy

[cedar silo]

Did kawa change their name to Tanat?

Will stop by tomorrow to pick up something off this shelf 🙂

[mellow sonnet]

They changed some time last year I think

I like the name kawa more personally but owell

[boreal solar]

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1914180022844508/?mibextid=wwXIfr local Zerno

[glossy sail]

BRO how do i join the ORANGE club

[fallen gulch]

dang derp finally got oranged

[boreal solar]

@cedar otter Ondo artesa open at 8 tomorrow?

[mellow sonnet]

I only talk here and Titus mostly I'm surprised I got orange

[boreal solar]

Also anyone try the new Knotts scary farm food this year?

[cedar otter]

Yes

[cedar otter]

Yes

[fallen gulch]

I'm surprised you didn't already have it at 13000 messages

[cedar otter]

O wth

[prime scarab]

Yoooo - I’m in Long Beach (staying in Carson) til Thursday! Any exciting events or meetups?

Looking for a place that’s not too far where I can re-up on some beans for my trusty zp6 and oxo.

[lunar fjord]

go to ichimiann

not coffee related but I miss that place so much

[prime scarab]

Heck yes! Appreciate the recommendation and open to others

I may end up making the trek up to Ondo today

[weary chasm]

If you like cream top drinks you can check out best world Donuts. 😂

No flights atm though. Kind of slammed

https://discord.com/channels/726985544038612993/1423397198091129016

No hojicha either

It's in Carson

[prime scarab]

Thank you! 😊

[prime scarab]

Are you in today? Maybe able to pass by later

[weary chasm]

Yeah. I'm stuck here... 😭

Let me know if you drop by

[cedar otter]

Ondo artesia

[prime scarab]

Oh cool! Only 15 mins away from where I’m staying

[prime scarab]

Is the retail section similar to the heliotrope location?

because when I went last time it was stacked

[weary chasm]

In theory it should be even more stacked

Because it's bigger

[prime scarab]

https://tenor.com/view/chris-pratt-reversed-reverse-shocked-gif-15608473656380865909

[cedar otter]

I was gonna get there early but I’ve been laying in bed for 2 hours due to back pain

[boreal solar]

Ouch. That sucks. I might stop in to grab a bag this afternoon if kiddo allows after Knotts 😅

I was thinking of trying an ondo roast. I haven’t yet 😂

[crude citrus]

Ouch. Lmk if you’d like a referral to my PT

[boreal solar]

stretches really help depending where the pain is focused

[cedar otter]

Yeah did some stretching

[boreal solar]

Meanwhile I’m in line to ride sidewinder two weeks post vasectomy because I’m a masochist

Fun ride. Hadn’t rode it before. Super short though. Also if you’re tall and at Knotts I’d skip. I had to move my legs awkwardly and I’m only 6’ lol

[desert stirrup]

Has anyone bought from Bohdi Roasters?

There in the LA area and am curious on their beans

They’re doing 25% off this weekend!

[short condor]

I don’t feel this way with coffee knowledge but when you get a crap shot or poor pour over I always feel weird saying anything. Makes me feel like I’m being condescending no matter how nice I am.

[boreal solar]

They’re alright if you like medium. But there’s better options for the beans popular on here. Their greens are hit or miss if you’re into home roasting. They tend to hold onto inventory longer than they should and freshness isn’t a sure thing.

By medium I mean traditional medium

[eternal birch]

got gesha po, they have interesting scales

[desert stirrup]

Ok back to Ondo then

Thanks for saving me some cash my guy

[desert stirrup]

This hydrangea picture is funny and cute

Might buy just because of the pic

[lunar fjord]

what's up with these prices

[dull adder]

It says Pepe on the bag so

[dull adder]

I'm jelly. I feel like most of the benefit is in the 220v. The 110v is the same power as my current DE1..

[mellow sonnet]

just get a slayer

sanremo you my top choice still

[tight gorge]

Yeah, I saw the most recent decent yt video and was able to add it before they drywalled

Or I can get spiritelo lmao

[dull adder]

Slayer is lame

The machine is pretty though

[boreal solar]

I’m deluding myself into thinking here’s no other benefit as well. Sticking with my de1 as I’m just tired of machine hopping. Sure she’s a little loud but she works well.

[dull adder]

There are benefits but they are pretty minor. Smoother water delivery, higher max flow. Space for the new pumps if those pan out

[boreal solar]

Not sure why I’d want higher max flow tbh 😅

But yeah. I think the main thing is the better sound isolation, water delivery and aesthetics

Even the 220v is probably minor tbh. Other than commercial use

[dull adder]

If you like using the pour over basket you wouldn't need to preheat the water tray. Also faster heat up, stronger steam.
Yeah not sure those are must haves

[boreal solar]

I have the pour over basket but I’ve used it maybe twice. I usually opt for filter3 or the xbloom.

[dull adder]

Yeah it's how it goes haha

Do you like the Decent so far?

[boreal solar]

I do. I like how much smaller it is than the linea mini and being able to set a profile and forget is nice as well. It’s also a lot cooler to the touch so it’s less oversight when the three year old wants to help daddy.

Also steaming is actually better for me. It’s powerful enough I haven’t had an issue but also slow enough for control.

[cedar otter]

[mellow sonnet]

baking w the big oven about to pay off

[drowsy knot]

I’ve been dealing with lower back issues for years now and the only thing that has consistently helped is hot yoga. Honestly it’s not fun (like throwing up - you feel better after) but I went from back spasms to no recurrence with a couple times a week. Good luck it’s a real pita as you know

[vivid violet]

me too. used to get a slipped disc every few years, but after some stretching and strengthening, I haven't had a reoccurrence for 12 years or so.

[boreal solar]

@cedar otter just missed you again.

[lunar fjord]

old man channel

[vivid violet]

(I've had it since college, but.. yeah. now ye olde man)

[lunar fjord]

I have bad back pain too unfortunately

[tight gorge]

Messing up my lower back is up there in terms of fears

[cedar otter]

damn

I had lot of upper back/neck/shoulder problem when I was younger due to playing piano and headbanging w/ guitar

and then now lower back/sciatica/etc

[vivid violet]

not enough piano

[crude citrus]

I used to have back problems too but weightlifting helped

[cedar otter]

I feel like I need to hire a personal trainer

[crude citrus]

Man you’re orange now too? How do I become an orange man

[crude citrus]

Best investment I ever did. Changed my perspective on how food weight and health

[low mantle]

Found some Coffee De Olla.

It was actually really tasty. I was pleasantly surprised.

[boreal solar]

Grabbed a pair of bags. And maybe. I find just working out regularly helps me. I tend to hurt more when I stop.

[low mantle]

Lol some mod is def lurking in here. Everyone’s turning orange.

[mellow sonnet]

i think deadhangs did wonders for my backpain

but also mine was prob from sitting too much and studying

now i climb plastic rock

[boreal solar]

I’d probably start with yoga stretches. Downward dog etc. cowdogs

[vivid violet]

I think he's been chatting in a bunch of different channels..

[glossy sail]

give us the orangeeeeee

which channels/thread do i need to chat in to get the orange? lol

[boreal solar]

How long do you guys usually rest Ondo pink champagne? I know a few of you have bought it before.

[weary chasm]

Maybe general

Or bana

Basically where you can be seen by the mods

[elder vector]

what does orange actually come with?

[low mantle]

Everything

[tight gorge]

Bean alpha

[crude citrus]

Tariffs

[cedar otter]

2-3 weeks

[weary chasm]

Badge that you've been here too long

And talk to much in public spaces

[lunar fjord]

tbh I don't know why I have it

[tight gorge]

Who is going to tell him?

[lunar fjord]

:x

[drowsy knot]

nice - so great when a little maintenance does the trick!

[drowsy knot]

there’s so many little things I wish someone told me when I was younger. Probably would have developed better habits

[boreal solar]

Grabbed the keychron v1 max 75 with red switches this weekend. And it seems nice. But I wish it was lower profile. I’m sure I’ll adapt. That or buy a wrist rest. For now I’m just raising my chair. @mellow sonnet I got used to lower profile boards and never really thought about it.

[desert stirrup]

Orange?

Huh?

I’m confused?

[low mantle]

You got the “cafe regular” role. It just means you’re a regular and have access to another chat. Mods have to give you the role.

[desert stirrup]

Oh I see!

Ngl

I have no idea

I think someone in this chat @‘d in another channel then the mod added me in

I @‘d you in the channel @crude citrus

Maybe that does it?

[boreal solar]

Nah, mods just add people upon noticing them or when someone is nominated by another member.

[desert stirrup]

I nominated Perry!

Or I hope I did

Make the man Orange

[low mantle]

Oh what the hell he got oranged!

I thought my campaign of posting a cat pic a day to Bana would have gotten me oranged by now.

[civic crest]

I just got a V6 wired off woot recently! night and day compared to what i replaced it with (old steelseries 6gv2)

[boreal solar]

I had a nuphy and it was nice but it seems the pcb died at random as it started typing random characters on its own and activating shortcuts etc when connected to my Mac 🫢 I really loved the feel and responsiveness but damn am I annoyed as it’s only a year or two old.

And it was like $140 on sale

[mellow sonnet]

you can just get any mx board w super low pretravel for the responsiveness but then ur entering custom keebs more

[fallen gulch]

Dang with all this talk about keyboards in the LA coffee section it makes me hope there'll be another coffee x Keebs meetup lol

[mellow sonnet]

ondo hosted one a while ago

in partnership w keeblife

[crude citrus]

Now my life has meaning

[desert stirrup]

Amen brother

A-fucking-men

[boreal solar]

Keychron seems reasonably for now anyway. It’ll be great when I stop making random typos due to low profile muscle memory though 😂

[glossy sail]

WTFFFFF

HOWWWWWWW

[crude citrus]

A bag of Panama gesha and I’ll tell you

[earnest robin]

Some reg nominates, if mods think they are worthy they approve

[glossy sail]

guess im not worthy

[glossy sail]

i'll just wallow in these BROWN gesha tears

[boreal solar]

At this point you need a purple nomination. 🤔

[mellow sonnet]

Hi I'm an investor for ondo ||I spend money at ondo as a customer|| am I eligible for purple?

[weary chasm]

maybe you can be a coffee consultant to help teach baristas how to make pourover.

[boreal solar]

Baristas don’t like that if it’s not facilitated by themselves or their management. I.e no going behind the counter at Ondo unprompted and saying “actually, Rao says it’s better to…”

[fallen gulch]

that was the one I was referring to lol

[cedar otter]

The one I organized and roasted coffee for and couldn’t attend bc I was stuck in Korea

[fallen gulch]

The coffee was goood

[desert stirrup]

My man is the negotiator

Hope you’re in sales

[muted kindle]

Costco carries fellow ?

[cedar otter]

This bag?

[mellow sonnet]

Good coffee

[lunar fjord]

is this bean&bean

[mellow sonnet]

This is the model they discontinued in favor of the stagg pro. I'm honestly surprised they had enough NOS to sell at Costco like that tbh

[desert stirrup]

Get me a six figure job and I’ll make you worthy

Also please make the job have no meetings

[tight gorge]

Yeah, @compact hound coffee brand

[mellow sonnet]

The stock market is a 6 figure job with no managers 🫡

[desert stirrup]

That sounds risky af

[tight gorge]

Cool, manage my money and get a 20% carry

[lunar fjord]

oh I didn

know someone related to them is on EAF

I live 10 min from their original store lol

but I think their flagship is in Manhattan now

[desert stirrup]

How do I even achieve this?

[tight gorge]

I was joking

[desert stirrup]

I only know of Bogle style investing

[tight gorge]

It’s owned by a mom and daughter q grader duo

[lunar fjord]

yea I know the story

[tight gorge]

nice i got got

[lunar fjord]

it's also really heavily pushed by Brian Quan

[tight gorge]

Deserved it

[lunar fjord]

idk

[mellow sonnet]

Learning YouTube and learning to differentiate opinions and BS from actual education

Other than that 🤷‍♀️ I'm not certified to say anything

[tight gorge]

Fulfill my oxy prescription

[mellow sonnet]

No can do 🤡 I don't even touch tablets

[tight gorge]

damn

[boreal solar]

They have them at the Rancho Costco as well. They carry the stagg ekg and rotate the Clara in from time to time.

I just pay people to handle my investments. I should probably learn more eventually but I prefer to focus my pursuits elsewhere.

On the flip side of derp though. I know a lot of people who crash and burn that probably shouldn’t touch it.

Common sense is something that’s hard to teach. Folks have a hard time paying attention to details.

[muted kindle]

I’ve never seen it lol I have a feeling mg these will be on clearance in a few months from now

[cedar otter]

I just got the new stagg ekg pros and I’d say it’s a good worthwhile upgrade

Also this keeb is basically ondo 2 color

Must buy

[boreal solar]

Nah, they’ve stocked them for over a year that I know. They pop up on deals sites all the time. They’re always around the same price.

[crude citrus]

Have you heard of r/wallstreetbets?

https://discord.com/channels/726985544038612993/1422948999790461080

Wow

Zerno stonks

[mellow sonnet]

Z1 dying in favor of z2

[boreal solar]

dem $400 burrs though

[junior bobcat]

@cedar otter puck slam is ftw for maintenance of puck integrity. Bengle looks like a whole lotta nuthin for $2000 more. Pass.

Idk why it tagged you sorry verbal b

[cedar otter]

😂

[boreal solar]

He does have a decent.

[compact hound]

Use code sloth20

[mellow sonnet]

Use code derp for a free ||error message|| at check out

[cedar otter]

fuhhh

I need to launch subs

[crude citrus]

Could you launch a “fun” sub where we could choose from two coffees to receive for the month or next couple of months? Or maybe like a category instead of a specific bag

[cedar otter]

oh interesting

I plan to launch 4 or 5 different subs

1. "classic": something chocolatey, comforting, more developed; good for latte drinkers or custies who are getting into specialty coffee
2. "terroir": Coffees that highlight what the climate, soil, variety, and elevation can do. Light roast washed, clean coffees
3. funky: Coffees that highlight the processing methods and whatnot. coferments/anaerobic naturals/experimental etc.
4. top shelf: Geshas and rare coffees. Smaller bags, expensive.
5. Ondo beans: Rotating coffees

maybe a discount for those who choose 2 or more?

Includes third wave water pack, a playlist (maybe even a burnt CD if I can buy a CD duplicator for cheap)

[tight gorge]

That’s a lot of subs to curate

[cedar otter]

It is

[mellow sonnet]

4 bags a month? Not that bad assuming ondo isn't something new every month?

[cedar otter]

But I’m insane

Ondo should be a new bag every month

Or like a fun blend

[mellow sonnet]

Wew crazy

[cedar otter]

@mellow sonnet I found a new bag for you

https://www.fendi.com/us-en/gift-ideas/father-s-day-gifts/onigiri-bag-white-sheepskin-bag-7as240apuof1mmu

[mellow sonnet]

[vivid violet]

the question is why is it so cheap

[mellow sonnet]

My friend asked me if I was going to get the LV lobster

https://us.louisvuitton.com/eng-us/products/lobster-wearable-wallet-monogram-nvprod6490101v/M26008

Like why is it called a wearable wallet 💀 it's a whole bag

[cedar otter]

O gawd this is so ugly

[mellow sonnet]

Yeah lmao

Pharrell made it look not bad but LV monogram doesn't look that ugly if your whole outfit is monogrammed I guess

I could never 💀

[vivid violet]

i’ll stick with the Balenciaga Levi’s King Crab, thank you very much. 🦀

[fallen gulch]

would be very intrigued by a funk sub 👀 HS sub been too many clean washed coffees need some spice

[vivid violet]

yeah, the funk sounds cool. really enjoyed the Yunnan’s from when @boreal solar was roasting. they were so unique and interesting as espresso.

[compact hound]

Wild but i like it

[weary chasm]

Yeah. This is the old version. I use this one. The newer one has some quality of life upgrades

[vivid violet]

the boil-before-equalizing-to-temp seems like a cool QoL for the new one.

(i also have the old one, and it works great)

[prime scarab]

What’s the intent tho? Sterilization?

I’m gonna go to Ondo Artisan soon. Is anyone there

[vivid violet]

yeah exactly

[cedar otter]

Will be there 10 something

[prime scarab]

I’ll be the guy with the big hat and fanny pack

[boreal solar]

What’s your commute like vs Pasadena?

[cedar otter]

1 hour plus

[fallen gulch]

Hoping to visit ondo Artesia when I get back down to LA around Christmas time, seems way easier than dealing with 10/110/DTLA traffic for where I stay

[boreal solar]

Are you no longer in Manhattan beach?

[fallen gulch]

I moved back to Denverish for work/school back in May/June

[prime scarab]

10/10

[boreal solar]

You know, I’ve never actually ordered spro there. I should give it a shot sometime. 😅

[eternal birch]

0 spro for a spro server lmao

[desert stirrup]

I only remember that kid who got 800k inheritance from his grandma then put it all into Intel. Intel then fell like 30% and another large amount the next day.

[desert stirrup]

I really like this! I’ve been looking for a way to discover new roasters via a subscription. I know DayGlow does something like this but I haven’t gotten around to trying it

I’m excited for this to drop

[boreal solar]

So you plan on sourcing from other roasters or handling the roasts yourself entirely?

I personally think it would be cool to do a sub for particular origins or regions. Highlighting the best of Africa, South America, or Asia would be pretty fly.

[low mantle]

Kaiser nurses are striking this week btw. I’d avoid driving by them. They’re pretty rowdy and there have already been a few incidents.

[boreal solar]

Thank god I switched to blue shield. Kaiser was such a pita. I don’t miss waiting four months for appointments.

[cedar otter]

Source other roasters for 4 out of 5 subs

[eternal birch]

discord coffee poll sub

monthly coffee club

[trail tiger]

Isn’t this a lot of beans to handle and from different roasters I’d feel stressed handling all the diff variables that can go wrong

[prime scarab]

why they striking?

[mellow sonnet]

because healthcare industry is shit

[low mantle]

Money. They want a 25% increase. They already offered them something like 23% and they declined.

[mellow sonnet]

they also asked for proper staffing 🤡

[prime scarab]

[mellow sonnet]

uci/ucla has been protesting all year too

[eternal birch]

which nurses?

[low mantle]

Should bring them to $100 hourly with the 25%

[eternal birch]

kaiser nurses are legit highest paid in the industry

although I think socal is a little lower than bay area

[mellow sonnet]

my friend a pharmacist in kaiser is protesting

[low mantle]

Yup, already 16 or 19 percent (can’t remember) above the industry

[mellow sonnet]

i think its other clinical not all nurses althou some departments are also protesting

[eternal birch]

ah ok

cant say for other dept

[low mantle]

Not sure. I should check my emails.

[eternal birch]

I'd love to be paid like a regular kaiser nurse though 💀

[low mantle]

I know, I wish I could join them.

I believe if they win it will affect other union members at other hospitals as well.

[boreal solar]

That’s probably the bigger problem. Most people I know in the industry consider the work life balance to be the issue with Kaiser.

Mostly nurses tbf.

But I imagine it’s like that for everyone there

[eternal birch]

yeah all nurses are stressed but afaik kp socal not as bad as most others

[low mantle]

I’m an outlier with Kaiser employees. I don’t work very hard but I’m also not union.

[mellow sonnet]

i honestly think my hospital has ok staffing but shit is miserable when someone calls out bc theres no effort to find coverage and management just goes "sorry couldnt find anyone" with no on-call people

[tight gorge]

$200k a year plus overtime

Bussin

[boreal solar]

You know, reflecting back on my earlier comment about appointments. On the flipsidse I’ve never actually gotten to meet with my doctor with Blueshield. I’ve never met my current physician. Everytime I schedule anything it’s with his PA. Not that it matters much. He does a pretty good job. The longer waits were for the doctor herself with Kaiser in all fairness.

[cedar otter]

🫠

[eternal birch]

was this in cerritos/artesia

too much debris from the rain/wind 🙁

[cedar otter]

Yeah

[glossy sail]

Saw this Tesla hydroplaned today. Stay safe ppl

[compact hound]

That was @cedar otter he got a flat brah

[cedar otter]

I just like low pressure in my espresso and not irl

[vivid violet]

amazing how fast the tires go flat. I hit the handle portion of a ceramic mug, which pierced my tire pretty fast.

AAA was able to bring me a spare wheel and they just slapped on the whole thing and I was on my way.

had to return the spare wheel and tire to a Tesla dealer, and they put a new tire on for me on my wheel.

I almost immediately drove over some construction debris within 1 wk and needed another tire 😭

[junior bobcat]

@boreal solar btw when did you get a de1?

[cedar otter]

Importance of background and lighting

These two are the same exact product

And this is the exact same background

[boreal solar]

I sold my linea mini for it sometime in the last year. I can’t remember which month.

I think I swapped machines like four times since you moved 😂

To be fair the Linea was for ragdoll popups. I never really wanted one for home

[desert stirrup]

Damn I want a $100/hr

Just not all the healthcare working stuff that comes along with it

[boreal solar]

Just get a job tech. Senior level positions pay comparably. The only downside is the soul sucking monotony and pending doom from ai enabled project managers trying to take over your skilled position.

[desert stirrup]

Yeah I don’t want that either

I gotta figure out how to get money without absolute terrible trade offs

[boreal solar]

Let me know if you figure it out. /cries in personal data farming code monkey

[compact hound]

Mama Lu’s the go to spot for big fam dinner

[glossy sail]

better than ... DTF lol

[compact hound]

Def

I actually do think DTF xlb goated though

And spicy wonton

Everything else i can live without

[glossy sail]

yea but theres comparable in SGV without the wait lol

[compact hound]

Troo

I actually don’t even know what DTF is like these days

[glossy sail]

wife went with coworkers more recently - said wtf is there a wait for this shit .. but also santa monica location

so .. shrug

[compact hound]

Once dtf went tiktok viral it was a game changer for them

[cedar otter]

I’d rather be at mama lu’s

Rather than waiting 2 hours at dtf

[glossy sail]

same same

[mellow sonnet]

Dtf earns 1m annual rev apparently

[desert stirrup]

I will!

Trust me

I definitely will

I want to spread the wealth and success!

[mellow sonnet]

Apparently I've been extra busy at work today bc my hospital is planning to take on a bunch of transfer patients from Kaiser

[junior bobcat]

Lol I had no idea you did pop ups either.

A lot of time has passed since we met. I think y'all just had your kid around then.

Do you still pop up with DE-1?

[dull adder]

Did you just get this car?

[cedar otter]

Yeah 3 weeks ago?

[dull adder]

That was quick 🥲

[boreal solar]

Nah, I dissolved ragdoll for the time being. Had a fallout with the main cafe owner I was working and the biggest retail partner closed so the timing felt right as it was right around the time tariffs were announced.

I think it was before she was born. My wife was pregnant at the time so it came up a lot. I remember I was still using the Pavoni and I’d sold that before she was born because wife and I were worried about the exposed boiler.

[tight gorge]

my advice would be to works towards owning your company. Infinite upside, yeah hours will suck but if you are a hard worker you would put long hours elsewhere anyways.

[tight gorge]

ai doom loop

def something I have been thinking about for a long time, but the endgrame scenario in my head is everyone is unemployed sooo thats why I bought a house. if no one can pay a mortgage then everyeone gets to keep it for free right

[drowsy knot]

self employment - pretty much anyone can learn a specific skill and make this amount. Learning the skill is about 20% and understanding people is the other 80%

[boreal solar]

I feel like the downside there is the investment period. Not everyone has the capital to invest in the development phase these days and most businesses expect a loss in the first few years.

[drowsy knot]

I’ve done one with sweat equity, one business with a credit card and another with SBA loans. Capital (and great advice from orgs like SCORE) is readily available you just have to be creative, disciplined and do your homework. Two years to $100,000 is completely achievable. Note I didn’t say it was easy 🙂 Structuring a business & marketing plan has literally never been easier since you don’t even have to do your own research now with AI. There’s a lot to it but nothing that is that complex once you break everything down to its component parts.

[crude citrus]

After having a lot of SGV places and going to DTF for the first time after they blew up, I will say the DTF xlb skin is S tier. It’s the right texture and borderline thin that somehow doesn’t break. It’s like the ultralight roast of xlb skins. That said I’m still not waiting hours for it

[civic crest]

westside problems

[eternal birch]

27.4m a location

idk if DtF xlb is the best anymore after trying a few others but the spicy wonton and fried rice are still goated

[civic crest]

i like the food, just expensive haha

going to the motherland in a couple months can't wait to eat all the cheap food

[boreal solar]

Help an IE member out, is DTF Din Tai Fung?

[civic crest]

yes

[eternal birch]

which city/area?

[dull adder]

Thank you for asking, I don't understand any of these TLAs

[elder vector]

looks up up "TLA"

[civic crest]

taipei north shilin district

[cedar otter]

Double Thermalshock Fermentation

[lunar fjord]

original SGV DTF location was the best

[mellow sonnet]

i wonder if dtf would ever go public

kura revolving sushi is public but the stock is garbage

low volume to the point no options and the stock is super seasonal you can spot when they have a collab or not

[boreal solar]

Never actually been to Kura despite it being right next to mills. Is it actually good? I just assumed it wouldn’t be great. I’ve had revolving sushi in Japan but I feel like it’s different there.

Dang https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1776032316443962/?mibextid=wwXIfr another wrecked stagg for close to msrp. “Not super noticeable” uh huh.

[cedar otter]

I was about to say this. I miss waiting in line in that small Arcadia stripmall. This was when there was only one location. We would like make friends while waiting

[dull adder]

Eh it's okay. It's gotten a little pricey but you can get a lot of bites of various different things.
It's not the best but good enough for that level of sushi

We like to go occasionally

[weary chasm]

I remembered when they opened the second location... Around the block

Well
I'm glad they expanded...

I can have it in Torrance and Las Vegas and Glendale

[glossy sail]

Only if your name is Diego bermudez lol

[desert stirrup]

That’s the plan and hope and dream! I’ve realized my energy and work style is very explosive rather than steady. In college I was like that too. I never did anything over a week or two. Rather I thrived under pressure and performed well

Very unsustainable for my mind and body though

Hence why I do yoga 🙂

[desert stirrup]

I learned the skill of modeling, prototyping, testing, and working with manufacturers.

I understand coffee and tea people

I am the new Sheldon of Sworks

New company: RWorksDesign

[junior bobcat]

i was thinking downtown fullerton tbh. lmfao

[boreal solar]

Start selling puck screens and portafilters/baskets

Buy a lathe. Profit

[cedar otter]

Might have some to give out on Friday + Saturday

[mellow sonnet]

Going to matt rife on Sat might go again why it feels like I'm at ondo every week now

[tight gorge]

Ondo eagle rock wen

[boreal solar]

Will you actually be there this time? 😂

[cedar otter]

Say the word

Would love to open in er

[prime scarab]

I didn’t see a white one yesterday, so I scooped the Pink one. ceramic is v nice

[cedar otter]

Oh u have the metal switch haha

[cedar otter]

That white is actually green one lmao

Under bad lighting

[prime scarab]

They call me GoodSwitch||, Mr. GoodSwitch||

[prime scarab]

https://tenor.com/view/inconceivable-princessbride-impossible-gif-5806265

[cedar otter]

OH!!

[prime scarab]

It was cool to see the ceramic offering in person. I legit took a photo as I pulled up bc of how excited I was to see it in the window, sent to wife. Little did I know I’d be walking out with it

I was stoked to see the pink Ceramic UFO too, if I didn’t have the black one already I’d have got it

[cedar otter]

thanks for supporting a small business

❤️

[prime scarab]

💯 nothing but love

[prime scarab]

Glad I can do my part!

[tight gorge]

Will patiently wait for unincorporated to move out

[cedar otter]

some people seem to be die hard fans of unincorporated

[earnest robin]

Ondo Venice

[rough crypt]

please, the west side is a specialty desert

[tight gorge]

https://tenor.com/view/jimmy-mcmillan-too-damn-high-high-gif-12728546672701541344