Los Angeles/OC/San Diego 🌈

[weary chasm]

Just have a separate set for flavor stuff

*the bag is already ground. You're not putting it in your grinder

[eternal birch]

guessing its preground for drip

[boreal solar]

We’re having a sale right now. https://ragdoll.coffee/ closest cafe with bags in stock is upland California. But free local shipping and whatnot.

[eternal birch]

👍

[cedar otter]

@boreal solar damn you’re on the fancy Shopify platform?

[boreal solar]

I get a friends and family discount because a college friend is a project manager for them 😂

[weary chasm]

Otherwise it's like $30/month right?

I was looking into shopify, etsy, or WordPress with woo commerce

[boreal solar]

$29 but same difference. That’s when paying annually as well. It’s $39/$40 + transaction fees otherwise

[vivid violet]

amazing. seems like such a feat to open one location. hope the process for location #2 goes smoothly !

Pasadena would be amazingly convenient for myself and a few friends who follow your shop 🙏

[vivid violet]

wow, the rwandan looks nice. a friend brought me some from there previously, and i just finished it up a bit ago.

just put an order in too !

[tight gorge]

We out here

[compact hound]

Ooooo shit

[eternal birch]

happy thanksgiving!

[weary chasm]

What is this?

[eternal birch]

endorffeine thanksgiving tasting

[tight gorge]

Yea, it was coo. He did sink like 4 LO shots during the first sitting

[dull adder]

How does he decide what should be a sink shot
Why doesn't he just turbo everything and it'd never be sink shots

Although I can't imagine him squatting down and watching it just spray out

https://tenor.com/view/hose-gif-20117424

[tight gorge]

Took too long is my guess. Said humidity of the room got too high with us all there. Lowered the temp in the AC and we were back in business

[dull adder]

A man after Rohan's heart, monitoring the humidity

[cedar otter]

Ah that’s why it’s like Siberia in there sometimes

[blazing gust]

Sweat in the air ?…

[weary chasm]

Lol
The ondo black Friday shopping

[surreal pivot]

Is Fried Hats coal? 🤔

[compact hound]

No

[surreal pivot]

I’ll have to give them a shot. See them all the time but never bought any

[vivid violet]

tomorrow (Sat) is the last day of the Moim pop-up, from what i heard:
https://maps.app.goo.gl/sHyav2FVTjPMMZmY8

suggestion is to go early to try some of their unique drinks.

There's a yuzu seltzer with a light yogurt whipped cream, and interestingly if you pour a shot into it, it tastes pretty good.

[weary chasm]

is this like downtown la?

[tiny mountain]

@dull adder 👀

[dull adder]

I could have made the trip today actually but I'm not the biggest fan of specialty drinks so didn't want to make that drive

[tiny mountain]

Oh…

Cringe..

[eternal birch]

https://www.instagram.com/p/DC5Jfb7yqeE/?igsh=NTc4MTIwNjQ2YQ==

sfchronicle_food

A curious new kind of tasting menu has emerged in the Bay Area. It barely serves food. There’s no wine pairing. The first course? Pour over coffee in a Glencairn glass — usually reserved for sniffing whiskey — followed by another and another. Two more cups came as a chaser: a tiny shot of espresso, then a tiny latte.

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was sent this since I went to tangible gratitude zz

[weary chasm]

You going?

Can do the pepe moonwake meetup too. Lol

[tight gorge]

Having done three testing menus already, it’s gonna be hard for me try again. It’s a lot of coffee in one sitting

[eternal birch]

I wish, I'm back up in SF 12/7-12/10 unfortunately

[weary chasm]

Oh. Just off by a day

[eternal birch]

yeah, going to see if I can stop by moonwake to pick up someone, if not oh well i enjoy coffee in SF

[compact hound]

What did you think of jacks tasting?

[tight gorge]

I’ll dm 😶

[dull adder]

Did you go to the 9 tasting?

[tight gorge]

nah this was the coffee tasting. 1. sey lost origin spo 2. cruz loma po 3. cruz loma kyoto cold brew

[dull adder]

Coffee tastings need to come with an L-Theanine pill

[surreal pivot]

Please tell me how it was as well. I’ve been debating giving him a second chance but have yet to come up with a reason to do so.

[tight gorge]

No reason not to on normal service days. Get the pho next door before and hop over for the spro after

[surreal pivot]

I’m just waiting for someone to tell me he blew them away and wasn’t being rude.

Something about him being an ass towards customers and me forking over money doesn’t sit right with my spirit 😂.

[tight gorge]

fake news brah

[surreal pivot]

Oh no, I’m speaking from first hand experience

[tight gorge]

I see lol

[surreal pivot]

You go from Howlin’s service then stroll over to his shop. Night and day 🤣

[tight gorge]

pre-pandemic howlin service was legendary, now its w/ e

[surreal pivot]

If Jack was even a tenth as hospitable it would be an improvement is what I’m saying

[eternal birch]

been 2 times, hes literally just never interacted or took my order even lol

[surreal pivot]

I also found it funny how he freaks out over cameras but some celebs show up and cameras are suddenly cool

[eternal birch]

he does?

I've taken photos and he seemed ok

[surreal pivot]

I’ve noticed that everyone has a different experience there

[tiny mountain]

That’s so funny, all three times I’ve gone he was super talkative to me and my company whenever he had down time

My friend tells me I have a high charisma stat combined with a degree in yapanese so I can get people chatting more often then not tho

So grain of salt and all that

[surreal pivot]

There ya go

[compact hound]

Nah their pho is a skip gotta do their vermicelli bowl w/ the grilled pork

[compact hound]

I visited Jack for the first time a few weeks ago and I actually had a really nice time

It probably helped that I went with a homie who is cool w/ Jack and @drowsy knot is so kind

I definitely had my doubts with him before and still have some gripes but he was respectful to me which is all I ask for

[surreal pivot]

Then that resolves it for me. I’m either going with your homie next time or not at all 😂

[compact hound]

What was so bad about your first experience?

[surreal pivot]

And to your point about respect, that’s all I ever ask for anywhere I go. Doesn’t have to be over the top, doesn’t have to be anything special or extra.

[compact hound]

Agreed 100%

[surreal pivot]

I may have mentioned it here before but let’s just say he was unpleasant to the point where I was offended and it was completely unnecessary on his end.

[compact hound]

Damn sorry to hear that

If its as bad as you describe then I understand why you dont intend on returning

I definitely wouldnt either if I was in your shoes

[surreal pivot]

It’s all good.

[compact hound]

Even if other people tell me otherwise

[surreal pivot]

That’s the thing- I’ve gotten a different story from everyone I know that’s been

And then you look at the reviews and it’s like yeah, that tracks

There’s people in the reviews nearly calling him a bigot last time I looked

[compact hound]

Alright im sure Jack probably was being an ass but throwing out bigot is kinda wild for a dude just making some coffee

[surreal pivot]

If it applies it applies, whether it’s making coffee or laying bricks. *I just looked and that review is still up. The poor gentleman who wrote it kept calling it “expresso”

[eternal birch]

anyone here have bread from fondry?

run by guy who does kumquat/loquat

wondering if I should get pastry from there or lou on the block

[compact hound]

Go during second bake

10:45 AM on weekends

Not sure if they do it on weekdays

Their pastries are pretty good

I think lots of people were hating because theyre factoring in waiting around

[eternal birch]

yeah, this is why I was sorta leaning to lou on the french block but gf really wants to try

[compact hound]

If you go during second bake there will be no wait

The longest ive seen someone wait during second bake was like 15 minutes

[cedar otter]

Dm me too 🫣

[tight gorge]

Aight, where should I get my pho sir?

[drowsy knot]

My feeling as well - we had a good time and he sat and talked with us for a while. Sample size of 1 experience of course (and the company def helped :))

[compact hound]

Not sure if you’d make the drive but Thai Lai in Hawthorne

Cash only

Probably the cheapest pho at $13 with loads of meat

[weary chasm]

thats a vibe.

i think its a good deal. probably just do pho tai @ $12

phoholic and basiaclly anywhere in santa ana for pho is good

lol.

[compact hound]

I haven’t tried that many places in Santa Ana since Thai Lai is really good and closer but the ones i have tried were pretty wack

Pho 79 is overrated asf

[compact hound]

Still haven’t tried phoholic but i do plan on it

[eternal birch]

back again shortly

[eternal birch]

will go sometime in the weekday

lou on the french block

[compact hound]

How was it? Never tried that place

[eternal birch]

up there with top 2 croissants I've had

still haven't decided on the winner between that and ariscault in SF

[left inlet]

@surreal pivot @compact hound Jack has always been very nice to me and welcoming. I have been a regular of his for the past two years. He descibes himself as an introvert. He has a sarcastic sense of humor that can be fun. You have know it just his sense of humor he his not being mean its just his way teasing and I know that. I think he is very nice person.

[compact hound]

Have you been to Izola in San Diego?

[eternal birch]

have not been but have had an overnight stale croissant friend got me

dont they do like

the bibimbap croissant and stuff like that

[compact hound]

Yes

[tight gorge]

its aight, not worth a trip for just that

[tight gorge]

bet. will try them all. Thai Lai, Pho tai and phoholic it is

[tight gorge]

Jack is just misunderstood

[eternal birch]

pho holic broth

[tight gorge]

anybody got a legit SGV list? havent explored that area that much

[eternal birch]

for pho?

[tight gorge]

no just hidden bangers

like Koreatown its hard to know where to go as an outsider

[compact hound]

Bro you tripping fr

I think you gotta go back

[eternal birch]

golden deli's eggrolls are hella good

[compact hound]

Always want to try golden deli but its so far

[weary chasm]

i bought their t shirt.

lol.

it was cute.

phin on front

pho in back

[tight gorge]

dime a dozen bru

[weary chasm]

its just "thai lai" and "phoholic"

Pho Tai is just a menu item

i like Brodards for their pho. though they don't specialize in it.

https://www.yelp.com/biz/brodard-chateau-garden-grove

[tight gorge]

blessed

[weary chasm]

if you go to the pho holic in stanton

its part of like a food court

https://www.yelp.com/biz/phoholic-stanton

[tight gorge]

sheesh now I really want pho, but its a lil too hot.

[compact hound]

My house feels like a freezer rn

Cant feel my feet

[weary chasm]

california cold

[eternal birch]

@cedar otter couldnt rlly hear you earlier, what was the hojicha you guys use?

also brodard nem nuong gud

think there's better in westminster but hard to go OC so often so I haven't had any better yet

[compact hound]

Eh honestly nem nuong doesn’t get much different from what I’ve tried

Its all pretty good

Brodard originally hyped for their sauce

[cedar otter]

wait

[cedar otter]

hankook tea!

they don't really have a presence

but it's like the industry secret (e.g. kumquat and house roots use them too)

sorry I think I was on dishes when you came lol

[eternal birch]

ah no I came earlier but saw you were busy

[weary chasm]

ohhh.

i saw their booth at coffee fest this year.

[brave crystal]

Add Hankook Tea's hydrangea leaves to any of their teas... touch of sweetness.

I think Suro Cha is basically their bag blends with hydrangea leaves.

[eternal birch]

gonna have to put it in the notes and order later, gf loved it

[cedar otter]

I used to sell them at the shop

Should I stock them up? Haha

[vivid violet]

Pho 79 used to be my go-to around 1996 to 2000, but i haven't been in a loooong time.

[vivid violet]

Same with me. He seems very, very introverted. I happened to catch the places he was suggesting in BKK on Instagram when he visited, and bookmarked them.

When i was in BKK, i visited some of them, and sent him a thank you for the pointers. he was very kind, and chatted in DM.

When i saw him next at Endorffeine, he was still a bit taciturn, but seemed nice.

[vivid violet]

Golden Deli is quite good:

• https://maps.app.goo.gl/z3sYua9ZGRTCNPRt7

Old Ferry Donut:

• K-town: https://maps.app.goo.gl/SvmagFFdJCE9pMLH9
• SGV: https://maps.app.goo.gl/6Z6kL1kTVqw9gJyX7

Myung In Dumplings:

• https://maps.app.goo.gl/HJpLD43hD2EcWMpZ6

Guelaguetza (Oaxican Mexican food)

• https://maps.app.goo.gl/ziJJaiLwedro4aqw9

Soot Bull Jeep (KBBQ):

• https://maps.app.goo.gl/5XKY9p4x8hW4ao9w8

(I have gone to all of these, and have a zillion more bookmarked if you're curious)

[left inlet]

@tight gorge Definaty Phoholic and also Pho 79 in the OC. In the valley on Sherman way and Reseda blvd Pho So 1 some of their locations are better than others as different parts of their family owns different locations. The first one is Reseda location.

[tight gorge]

legend!

[eternal birch]

every place has ups and downs imo

pho place I enjoy most local to me is pho saigon republic, I dont get why pho 87 is so popular when its just super mid

[civic crest]

they rennovated recently and raised prices, but still enjoyable. just not that hole in the wall feel anymore lol

[civic crest]

yes golden deli, damn i haven't been in forever

[weary chasm]

golden deli felt pricey too

but i guess thats inflation for you

[compact hound]

Just looked at the prices and its definitely on the higher end

[mellow sonnet]

Mandarin has empirical now?

[cedar otter]

LOL

empirical is everywhere!

[weary chasm]

since we talked about pho, it just reminded me of this clip.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P2VM7xUj_uo

[vivid violet]

I'm glad to post here, or DM, if you want pointers to other types of foods. I could figure out how to mod my Google Maps list to enable you to see it.

I'm curious what types of foods you would like to explore, including your target budget for a meal. there are some kinda pricey but realllly good ones to which i'd like to go to once every few years.

I've tried to bookmark cafes mentioned in this EAF discord in Japan, Taiwan, etc. and thought i should spin that out, but.. ungh list management 😊

[tight gorge]

Im a foodie so feel free to slow drip feed here over time, but only the bangers ™️

ill DM ya for some recs though

[tiny mountain]

I gotta try this water, the lotus recipe I use is so good overall I’m nervous to try anything else lmao

[vivid violet]

excited to receive my order today, thank you !

[boreal solar]

Thanks, let me know what you think. 🙂

[eternal birch]

mine also coming today

should have thought of this better since I'll be travelling in a week

[boreal solar]

Most of my roasts need three weeks+ rest anyway. The orders that went out yesterday were roasted on Saturday and Sunday so you should be good.

[vivid violet]

ah okay cool. i'll start trying them in a few weeks !

(yes, i see the roast date is Dec 1st on the bags)

Looking forward to it 🎉

[glossy sail]

when she says she wants glitch coffee after coming back from japan but i tell her we have glitch at home lol

[eternal birch]

the salma bermudez is super tealike and mango-ey ground coarse

then when it cools it tastes like a bad coarsely ground pourover

[boreal solar]

Nice glad they made it! Sorry about the larger bag. It’s not our standard offering but our black Friday sale exceeded expectations.

[eternal birch]

https://www.google.com/maps/place/Established+Today/@34.0837397,-118.3577619,13z/data=!4m6!3m5!1s0x80c2bf005da5bead:0xedbd3cdef7ec712a!8m2!3d34.0839566!4d-118.3577245!16s%2Fg%2F11y8qc_f4p!5m1!1e2?entry=ttu&g_ep=EgoyMDI0MTIwMi4wIKXMDSoASAFQAw%3D%3D

vinyl hifi coffee shop 👀

very much enjoyed hifi bar in oakland, Bar Shiru

[tight gorge]

Looks cool

[ornate ingot]

Alright with you if I use this photo in my monthly recap blog post?

[mellow sonnet]

sure

am going to do a side by side w brita water and empirical soon too 🫡

my plan to wait until i have my own place to try fancy water is panning out

[knotty spire]

There’s one down in San Diego worth visiting too - https://maps.app.goo.gl/Hvg2by5hbFJEkBye7?g_st=com.google.maps.preview.copy

[limpid sage]

anyone going to this https://www.instagram.com/p/DDINEAdv48-/ ( @cedar otter ? 😉 )

goodfight

@jaymielol returns Saturday to grace @adarlingkiosk with her talent and incredible signature drinks. We’re so happy this is becoming a kind of tradition and the perfect way to kick off the holidays. Come by to try a drink (or multiple!) and shop new pieces that have just arrived in time for the Christmas season!

#adarlingkiosk #adk
#jaymielao #...

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[tight gorge]

Didn't know you lurked around here

Im Alan, Varun/Kunals friend 🙂

[cedar otter]

We will soon have it in our spro menu

It’s bonkers

[cedar otter]

Lmao I have a event at Ondo that day I cant

We’re hosting Subtext coffee roasters from Toronto for a tasting event

[boreal solar]

Fancy. International events now? You’ve hit the big time.

[tight gorge]

Alright folks, Thai Lai takes the lead in my pho journey. Still need to try the Santa Ana spots

[mellow sonnet]

Ok guys who has a Tesla in here again? Is hardware4 worth it?

Lady hit me today and my suspension is probably totalled

Both me and her are ok but I'm in need of a new car now

[tight gorge]

Sheesh glad you’re ok

[dull adder]

Ondo is going to be busy this weekend 🥵
https://www.instagram.com/p/DDNnc5ISK7j/?img_index=1&igsh=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==

@cedar otter how much will the flight be?

whereisscottrao

LOS ANGELES!

Please join @whereisscottrao at @ondocoffee.co this Sunday, Dec. 8 from 10am-1pm.

Scott will be serving flights of five insanely good @getprodigalcoffee coffees!

Buy one flight, get to taste these five incredible coffees:

• TWO! Ethiopian @cupofexcellence winners
• A stunnnig geisha I consider the third-best coffee I have tas...

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[eternal birch]

damn im missing everything

[tight gorge]

Oh nice, might make the trip over there

Jack for sure gonna be there, good time for people to chat him up

[dull adder]

I wonder what time, wouldn't mind running into him

[tight gorge]

I sense he’s an opening time kinda guy.

[compact hound]

@drowsy knot literally got in an accident in his tesla not that long ago

Glad youre okay though holy shit

[drowsy knot]

My 2018 X was totaled in September. That was on HW2.5 and even though I don’t like the Y I replaced it with nearly as much, the system is much snappier and sharper all the way around. If it’s FSD you’re curious about I can’t help, never used it

[mellow sonnet]

Yeah I'm worried the Y won't feel as nice

[drowsy knot]

It doesn’t at all

[mellow sonnet]

The automatic doors were such a nice creature comfort

2020 X 😢

I was on hw3 FSD and it was good

I'm going to wait for my dad to come back from his trip next week and discuss w him while I wait for insurance but the tow truck guy said it was most likely totalled bc my suspension was basically ruined

[compact hound]

It does look pretty fucked IMO

[drowsy knot]

I really miss EAP. Also don’t like the landscape interface but I’m learning it. For me though it’s about the superchargers. And there’s a huge diff for me there. I stopped on the way back from a shoot in the desert. Plugged in, went inside to use the bathroom, came back out 5 min later and it had already added 80 miles. X was much slower

[mellow sonnet]

Idk how she hit my wheel thou rip

Considering her damage is mostly centered on the doors

Oh shit I forgot the orientation of the screen

I like the vertical rip

I guess it depends on how much insurance pays out

I feel bad for the other driver she was like 20yo

[drowsy knot]

I lost free supercharging for life, free premium connectivity for life and EAP which isn’t available any more. So if I want the 1 or 2 features from EAP that don’t come with standard auto pilot I have to spend 8k

[compact hound]

I was hit by an 18 yr old and 20 yr in one yr

[mellow sonnet]

I hope I can repair bc yeah free supercharging is pretty big deal changer for me

[drowsy knot]

Crazy the person who cut me off was 20

[compact hound]

First time the 18 yr old came out of the car crying and said it was her first time driving on the freeway

Second time the 20 yr old fell asleep behind the wheel and rear ended me on the freeway

[mellow sonnet]

My first accident was also 20yo fall asleep driving 💀 got lucky w paint damage only

[compact hound]

Unfortunately the car was totaled in my case

[drowsy knot]

I think it maths out to be a few thousand for the free super charging. I negotiated to get a bump in my payout (3k for the super charging and 1k for 10 years sub to the new premium connectivity)

[mellow sonnet]

I was working 70hr a week commuting 1.5hr to work thou so I really was asking for it

Oh they count the supercharging and FSD towards the payout? That's good to know

[drowsy knot]

I don’t know if they do automatically. I requested it because I felt it was part of the monetary loss and they accommodated. Prob varies by company

If your car is a total loss I’d def ask!

[mellow sonnet]

hopefully not a total 🙏 i like my free supercharging

but ty for the info

[drowsy knot]

Yeah even though I know they paid me for it I hate, hate being charged when I use them. It’s a mental thing I’m trying to get over 😂

[eternal birch]

woah you had free supercharging?

losing that would really suck esp if ur on SCE

[tight gorge]

Sneak peak of Wynd Coffee this Sunday https://www.instagram.com/p/DDLN1_sSc8D/?img_index=18&igsh=NTc4MTIwNjQ2YQ==

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LA friends! Please join us this weekend in Virgil Village for some holiday hangtime. That’s right, on Sunday December 8th, from 11-4pm it’s a one block art walk, corner of Virgil Ave & Burns Ave, where we’re featuring:

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@boyblue.la (pizza!)
@nyletta.nyletta (crullers!)

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Prob the one coffee shop I’m excited to see open up

Pulling shots on a manual slayer

[cedar otter]

sounds like a perfect place to go after Ondo 🤌

jk

[cedar otter]

kinda wanted to stagger this and subtext events but alas

it's gonna be a brewtiful weekend

[dull adder]

Yeah I had to check the dates a couple times. I was surprised it was back to back

Any idea on the price?
Trying to know if I should expect like $15 or $50

[cedar otter]

$15 for the flight

Of 5

It’s bangers

2 ethiopia COEs + 1 white honey gesha + col sl28 + pink bourbon

[tiny mountain]

Sounds so good

Just flash freeze a flight and ship it up

[cedar otter]

also will be selling the beans at the shop

should I sell a bundle pack after the event? lol

20g each coffee

[tiny mountain]

I mean that would be sick

I have too many bags rn but 1 brew of each would unironically be cool

[surreal pivot]

He’s probably only comfortable being a dick on his home turf 🤣🤣

[cedar otter]

Oh I thought you were talking about Scott

[compact hound]

Jack is @surreal pivot ‘s opp

[surreal pivot]

😂

[limpid sage]

what's good dude - been a while 🙂

[cedar otter]

It’s been a while indeed

[tight gorge]

Just here, enjoying making irresponsible coffee purchase decisions

[weary chasm]

Reminder that tomorrow is tasting event

[dull adder]

Anyone else going to the 9am one?

[weary chasm]

Oh. Lol. Somehow verbal signed up two back to back events

A tasting session followed by Scott rao

I'm going at the 1pm taster tomorrow

[dull adder]

Ah I might miss you then

I'll also be going on Sunday though to meet Rao

[weary chasm]

Wondering if I can do double events

Not decided yet

[dull adder]

I'm heading out so not going to catch any of the 1pm crew

It was interesting, well worth my time. They had lots of info on Ethiopia

Spoilers for my thoughts on the coffee
||For me the coffees didn't cup that well. And they were super open to that feedback, though I tried to limit anyone else hearing to avoid putting them on blast.||

||One in particular tasted roasty and I actually had bought a bag of it a week or so ago. They felt they roast pretty light, but admitted Wendelboe is maybe a bit lighter and I find myself gravitating to roasts at that level or lighter||

They asked for feedback so I'm going to reach out to them. And also spend some more time and taste a little more critically

[dull adder]

@weary chasm I'd be interested in hearing your thoughts, especially on the Chelbesa One.
Or anyone else that attends

[weary chasm]

Oh. Lol. I accidently clicked spoiler

Gonna hide.

Hopefully there's palate cleaners

Eating some greasy food

[dull adder]

There's not. Maybe bring a croissant or sparkling water

[dull adder]

I also kept the spoilers a little light, I haven't written down too many thoughts.
And it's not a blind cupping anyway, they put the cards right there for you to see and people didn't hold back on flavor call outs

[dull adder]

@shadow torrent your pulsar recipe got a shout out by someone else attending

[gusty pier]

thai lai is yummy

[gusty pier]

i like pho 79 in garden grove

[weary chasm]

Probably better to brew with.

I think the ones I enjoyed are the anaerobic naturals

[dull adder]

Maybe. But they agreed with me on the taste being super muted and that the coffee doesn't normally cup that way

[weary chasm]

Hello ondo Coffee water

Lol

[dull adder]

I felt the same. And I didn't really get much funk but I'm not sure if that's because I didn't get much to begin with

[dull adder]

Yeah idk what else it could be but water

It's a cupping so can't be brew parameters. And shouldn't really be grind. So

Did you find the Chelbesa One roasty at all?

[weary chasm]

I think most were fine. I just didn't like one that was a bag in the corner

But you have to remember, I'm probably more OK with roast.

Like I drink trader Joe breakfast blend and dark roasts

[dull adder]

The purple name confuses me

[weary chasm]

These are the ones I liked

[dull adder]

I definitely can tolerate more than BANA 😎
It's just that coffee I also have at home. And there's roast that comes through, to me

[weary chasm]

Mainly they're loud.

More like they were anaerobic naturals

Giving this one a try

[weary chasm]

I help out at a donut shop. It's not specialty coffee. It's mainly commodity coffee. Farmer brothers Colombian blends.

But trying to make the coffee taste as good as it can be.

Offer French vanilla, hazelnut, half and half. 🤣

[dull adder]

Oh interesting!

[dull adder]

This was pretty much my list of favorites as well. I didn't get a lot of funk on these despite their processing, which was nice.
I wondered if it was just that they could punch through the overall "brown'

[dull adder]

Three of them were very fresh roasts, 1 or 2 days ago. Popcorn, buttered toast.
One of them was nutty, at least on the dry aroma. I wonder how those will taste once they rest

[weary chasm]

The lecture was pretty interesting

Lol. I didn't realize it was going to be a class

[dull adder]

Same! But it was interesting and I learned a lot.

[weary chasm]

Not really a destination spot. But here is the website and Yelp.

https://mageesdonutshollywood.com/

https://yelp.to/2uDHyr5eSI

[eternal birch]

I've done the LA - SF trip like.. 40 times now

want to sleep everytime I drive

[boreal solar]

I just fly everytime I want to go to SF. It’s like $30 from San Bernardino or Ontario to SF and it’s easier to take BART than drive there anyway.

[weary chasm]

for work or family

or fun

[eternal birch]

I usually fly as well

family n fun

drove this time because I have a couple days to kill before flight out and probably gonna work remote after I come back for another couple days as well

[weary chasm]

moon wake coffee visits i guess

[weary chasm]

muted flavors. but overall, the not loud ones tasted very similar to each other. the nuances probably got destroyed by water/grinder combo or some permutations.

[dull adder]

Definitely something happened. They seemed disappointed when I was chatting with them, more 1-on-1.

[boreal solar]

Not used to that SoCal tap water? That sounds like what my Rancho tap water does to a lot of coffee.

Although I feel like they wouldn’t use tap for a cupping

[drowsy knot]

That would be wild because my tap water is 500+ ppm and has spent jet fuel in it (according to ladwp reports online). No flavors survive that onslaught

Apparently it is an “acceptable” amount of spent jet fuel so please carry on 😂

[weary chasm]

I'm thinking it's some ro blend. But I am not sure. It's Def not just tap

[boreal solar]

Me complaining about my 200-235ppm seems nitpicky meow.

[eternal birch]

blessed to be drinking SF hetch hetchy water

are there specific remineralization filters for coffee that someone has made?

my spring water one tastes just ok

[weary chasm]

Just bring a couple gallons back down

Lol

[drowsy knot]

RO system ftw!

[weary chasm]

Probably see you then if the times overlap

Bringing some beans because I want people to taste. Lol or others to validate if it's even good or not

[boreal solar]

I’ve considered it. I generally mix my own water but when lazy have occasionally used tap in the Bianca. Maybe like once every three months. Two years into its life I had to swap out the antivacuum safety valve and opv due to scale. And this is like rarely using the tap. My shower heads even crust over sometimes when I go on vacation for more than a week.

[dull adder]

Oh crap should have sent this earlier

I still have XX2, could have shared that

[weary chasm]

Lol. Just my roast

[dull adder]

Ah

[weary chasm]

10/24 roast

[eternal birch]

always thought modbar was pretty cool but wonder if its good

latte here is pretty weak and they raised the price from 4.50 😦

[drowsy knot]

i descale my shower head more often than my Decent 😂

solid la eaf presence at Ondo this morning (missed @ornate ingot in the shot). Best coffee/christmas sweater award to @dull adder that was awesome!

[compact hound]

Nice sweater @dull adder

[cedar otter]

Thanks yall for coming

[weary chasm]

Thanks for hosting

[drowsy knot]

@boreal solar Super interested to try these two roasts side by side. Finished within 3/10 of a degree and 1 second of each other with nearly identical weight loss. Completely different gas and air adjustments

[cedar otter]

we broke our records today

thanks yall for coming for the flight ❤️

[drowsy knot]

that’s amazing, congratulations!

[compact hound]

Congrats! Sorry i couldnt make it 😞

[weary chasm]

It was semi funny. La brews was introducing us to someone running a pop uo

And we just happen to all have decent espresso machine...

Erik, avatar, me, La brews (?), mrfixit

[compact hound]

Did they want to know about the micra/mini or something

LAbrews has the robot iirc

Unless his ass got a decent recently and idk about it

[weary chasm]

No. La brews was just trying to get them to join the discord to buy a p100

[compact hound]

Needs his homie to take the plunge to do a comparative tasting with his kafatek

[weary chasm]

The number of decent was unusually high...

[tight gorge]

Yee https://www.instagram.com/senses_la/profilecard/?igsh=NTc4MTIwNjQ2YQ==

Senses

[dull adder]

@cedar otter has a Decent as well

[compact hound]

Ah ive seen this guy

[tight gorge]

What’s wrong with decent for pop ups?

[compact hound]

Didnt know he was your homie

[weary chasm]

Can ask verbal for his experience

[tight gorge]

We go way back to my beer hobby, see each other here and there. Nowadays at most coffee pop ups

Ima get him to join this thread

He said he fallows BAE and was trying to start something in LA

I was like bru, we have that

He made my drink when Moim couldn’t keep up with the line lol

[weary chasm]

Probably just slow

I'm assuming, and maybe I'm wrong. But most drinks are latte

If you go with linea mini, you can pull shots while you steam milk. And can knock out drinks way faster.

[dull adder]

Only a problem with steaming, I believe. Slow to heat the milk. And you can't steam and brew at the same time

You could ask Erik

[weary chasm]

@tight gorge i tried to visit that coffee shop you talked about. But parking is bad. Lol. Maybe sometime when it's open

It's also across the street from another coffee shop

[compact hound]

Which shop

[tight gorge]

Yeah I was telling the sloth that it’s savage they did that

Like narrow street

[compact hound]

Oh wynd

[tight gorge]

Both open into the outside

apparently another shop is opening in the area as well

[compact hound]

Lynx

[weary chasm]

Is this like boba shops in a mall?

[tight gorge]

Where?

[weary chasm]

Like 5 in a row

[compact hound]

I’ll send the IG

Oh nvm

They dont say on IG

I swear i they posted the addy once

Maybe @cedar otter knows where

[weary chasm]

Semi plug. For anyone that has an xbloom and wants cool recipe cards, still making them. Lol. I'll post some wip.

Gives you an analog experience (or as much as you can with a robot pourover)

https://discord.com/channels/726985544038612993/1302805226415194184

[weary chasm]

So like three coffee shops

Across the crosswalk?

[cedar otter]

It’s decent for popups I’ve done it

[tight gorge]

And parking is so bad there

[weary chasm]

I don't know where to park

I saw like 5 cars with emergency lights on

[cedar otter]

Somewhere in the valley

[weary chasm]

Straight up double parked.

[tight gorge]

I blocked a loading dock across the street. Figured it was a Sunday. Ran back when I saw a truck pull up.

[weary chasm]

Iunno. Are there a lot of hype restaurant there?

Because I saw like 4 places with lines out the door.

[cedar otter]

Wait lynx or wynd

[tight gorge]

Lynx

Sloth spreading fake news

[cedar otter]

Lynx is in the valley

[compact hound]

Damn

My b guys

Dont listen to me ever

[weary chasm]

It's OK. I saw you didn't like the bambino and got a La marzocco instead

Hm.

What is lynx

https://www.instagram.com/lynxcoffeeco?igsh=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==

The website isn't loading

Lynxcoffee.com

[compact hound]

It was actually my sister

We should do a holiday night meetup next year at the incoming dayglow chinatown since it’ll be a brewery too

[weary chasm]

If day glow prices are nice.

If anything I wanted to try that tea shop that becomes an alcohol place at night

[compact hound]

Steep

[weary chasm]

Check out Steep!
https://yelp.to/3816IvUcNu

I've never been.

Lol

[compact hound]

Only had an oolong tea

It was meh

[weary chasm]

Lol

[compact hound]

Egg tart was wack too

[weary chasm]

Is their answer... It's too modern you dont understand

Iunno

But I'll check it out one day

I only checked out major domo in Chinatown

I liked the Las Vegas version better.

Too bad that one closed.

Check out Majordomo!
https://yelp.to/-p6d1UjiuR

[weary chasm]

The shot. Or using it. Lol

At least you win. By not paying. Hopefully

[compact hound]

I dont even spro

Legit just pulls 1 shot 5x a week

[weary chasm]

Should just get trader Joe breakfast blend

The best spro

[compact hound]

I did

She didnt like it

[weary chasm]

Rip

What do you pull then

Canyon coffee?

[compact hound]

Always rotating

[eternal birch]

their finca during the summer was good

beachwood just eh

[tight gorge]

Bro it’s sooo good and super consistent.

[weary chasm]

I'll have to retry at a later time. It wasn't as cool as Vegas
But maybe I was expecting too much

Just drinking beer and roasting coffee

Cheers to making coffee at home being cheaper than coffee shops

[eternal birch]

would rec DAMO and Orsa + Winston for similar tier resto in DTLA

check DAMO out before it gets michelin starred

[weary chasm]

https://yelp.to/aHFHEh1Fuo?

This one?

[eternal birch]

fuck I meant Baroo LOL

went for our anniversary, pretty affordable at 110/pp

for what it is

[tight gorge]

Went a year ago and said the same thing!

All dishes hit which is hard to do

[eternal birch]

will be going to san ho won tmrw for 2nd time

I thought they were too tryhard to try and get their michelin star before they got michelin star

[tight gorge]

mister jius good too

[weary chasm]

I guess it is.

Hm. Probably will try in a month or two.

Let you know if I do

[tight gorge]

Although Michelin stars are whack, based on my tiny sample size.

[compact hound]

Theyre definitely getting a 2025 star

[tight gorge]

Still bitter at holbox

[weary chasm]

If you're all recommending places the only one of this tier I have is sushi omakase.

Check out Kurisaki!
https://yelp.to/S4rioK4E2l

It's like $120/pp depending on market price.

[tight gorge]

Not bad, better than gen?

[eternal birch]

what for?

[tight gorge]

Being bad

[eternal birch]

I looked at the tasting menu and wouldnt get it

[tight gorge]

lol

[compact hound]

I need to visit Komal

Have you been @tight gorge

Ive been wanting to go for months

[tight gorge]

Yea, gud

[eternal birch]

regular menu was alright, really similar to tasting

[tight gorge]

Do both at the same time

[eternal birch]

I prefer tacos from east beach in santa barbara though

[tight gorge]

Split between you and the gf

[weary chasm]

Did anyone try this? I heard it from a boss's boss

Check out Vespertine!
https://yelp.to/muv_wP5f2-

[tight gorge]

Heard great things but never been

[weary chasm]

Or is money better spent elsewhere

[compact hound]

I believe theyre the same cooks/owners of destroyer

Right?

[eternal birch]

wouldnt really go to places above 1+ stars

they know what they are and they charge for it

except institutions like french laundry

[compact hound]

Has anyone been to camphor here

[tight gorge]

I think is, right next to each other. Destroyer is mid but great vibes

[eternal birch]

yeah

camphor just ok as well

[compact hound]

Yeah always thought it looked just okay based off of photos

[compact hound]

Good to know

[tight gorge]

Best steakhouse in LA? Going to Gwen for my bday and I always have bad luck visiting these

[eternal birch]

I think the one place to try if you want sushi similar to michelin in japan would be hayato

if you can get resy

[eternal birch]

Park's technically

[tight gorge]

lol

[compact hound]

Want to try their sandwiches

[tight gorge]

I make steak on the reg at home and it’s usually better

But with wife being prego haven’t had some in a while

[compact hound]

Akira said pie room has his fave croissants

[tight gorge]

Oh shi

[compact hound]

Think 99% of steak lovers feel this way

[eternal birch]

^^

would go only for dry aged cuts but idk anywhere that does em well

[tight gorge]

Mary is fire

[eternal birch]

lawry's overshadowed by House of Prime Rib in bay

[tight gorge]

Matu*

[weary chasm]

You mean random steak cut from Costco pretty good?

[eternal birch]

it really depends

[tight gorge]

Used to buy these, lottery. Now I buy snake river for max clog arteries

[eternal birch]

I hate that they blade tenderize but sometimes there are super good primes, sometimes it looks like choice

wouldnt get the choice @ costco

Sam's club has better prime beef

[weary chasm]

Oh. What's the difference

[tight gorge]

My fancy Vons has snake river and harris so I alternate

[weary chasm]

I guess I already bought it, but these are bad?

[eternal birch]

no not bad

I just wouldnt be too keen on cooking them rare

[eternal birch]

oh wtf

forgot they had that

[tight gorge]

Shit new to me

Looks good for American wagyu

[eternal birch]

those are alright, I would prefer prime still for the meatiness

yeah

[tight gorge]

Sneak river goes dumb on the marbling sometimes

[eternal birch]

@weary chasm I see ur a torrance guy

[compact hound]

Wine n dine me please

[eternal birch]

will let u in on a secret

[compact hound]

Gardena

[eternal birch]

K&K International on too good to go

[compact hound]

I live 5 mins away from him

[eternal birch]

oo

[compact hound]

Im his taste tester for his roastz

[eternal birch]

on the edge I guess?

[compact hound]

[eternal birch]

south gardena/north torrance?

[compact hound]

Nah

[weary chasm]

Lol. What gave that away

[weary chasm]

Lol. Lemme know what you think

[eternal birch]

the costco packaging said its from torrance lol

[weary chasm]

It's all terrible

[eternal birch]

I work in torrance

[tight gorge]

Damn kk looks fire

[weary chasm]

I used to work in Torrance til I got laid off. I guess being laid off is a blessing in disguise

[eternal birch]

$97 haul from k&k

I've gotten a5 tomahawk before, big boy

actual A5 unlike a lot of the kbbq posers

[tight gorge]

Clenbuterol for sure then

Will visit when I go to pho spots down there

[weary chasm]

What's the link

Address

[eternal birch]

its on too good to go

think they drop once or twice a week?

on a sunday

[weary chasm]

It's so weird. Sometimes Tokyo central gives wagyu free samples. Lol

[tight gorge]

Ah, yeah those cuts are not daily drivers

For reasons

[eternal birch]

yeah

not ideal cut but still really good value

[tight gorge]

For sure

Thanks for the rec

And not gate keeping

Unlike sloth

[compact hound]

How were those little wagyu weenies

[compact hound]

Bruh

[eternal birch]

tossed them in ketchup mix

theyre alright

[tight gorge]

Sloth thinks sharing $1 nuggets is not gate keeping

[compact hound]

LMFAO

@tight gorge is my king

[weary chasm]

The value in chicken nuggets

[compact hound]

He takes the plunge and i ask him if a place is worth visiting or not

[weary chasm]

Try before you buy

[tight gorge]

Going to Pie Room stat

[weary chasm]

Is it bad to eat steak while pregnant? Or are you following better diets?

[tight gorge]

Well done only

[weary chasm]

Oh. So you don't get the actual good taste

[eternal birch]

kbbq time

charcoal it up

[compact hound]

He recommended the choco almond croissant too

Lmk if its legit or nah

[weary chasm]

Did you already go

[compact hound]

No

[compact hound]

Did u see croissant du tokyo closed

[weary chasm]

https://tenor.com/view/do-it-what-are-you-waiting-for-determined-angry-gif-5247874

[eternal birch]

is that the one in tokyo central??

[compact hound]

Ye

Gone

[eternal birch]

dayum

[compact hound]

Not surprised tho

[eternal birch]

yeah

[weary chasm]

Which one?

[compact hound]

Feel like their quality went downhill

The artesia one

[eternal birch]

the one next to kagura

[weary chasm]

Oh. Interesting

I thought they were still there last visit last week

Hm..

I don't actually get anything there though

Only the fried chicken place

[eternal birch]

I only get tonkatsu from kagura lol

[weary chasm]

I still think the karage at tenka tori is great

[compact hound]

Its p good

[eternal birch]

have never had

[compact hound]

Its a tad too oily for me though

But good

[eternal birch]

have you guys tried

tendon tempura carlos jr

[weary chasm]

Check out Tenkatori!
https://yelp.to/yUU4mCcEP_

[weary chasm]

Once. I heard it's legit like Japan

[eternal birch]

need to try then

[weary chasm]

Owner is from Peru. Went to study in Japan. Opened up shop in Torrance

Art of deep frying

[compact hound]

That lore is fake LMFAO

Im not trolling

Carlos Jr is literally Hanosuke that used to be at the OG mitsuwa in torrance

[eternal birch]

is the owner actually a peruvian guy

[compact hound]

I believe so

But his whole story on going to japan is fake

The tempura is good to answer your question

[eternal birch]

damn so he just got good at tempura here

not like many torrance-ians are from japan in the first place

[compact hound]

Yeah he used to work/manage the hanosuke at the OG torrance mitsuwa

The owner of that one sucked and it was poorly run

So he jacked the recipe and decided to open up carlos jr

Thats the actual lore

[eternal birch]

not uncommon in LA

thank u for the tempura lore lol

[weary chasm]

The tempura is pretty good though

Pricey

It's validated by a Japanese native

[weary chasm]

Hm. I guess whichever you want to believe it'll be cool. Lol

[boreal solar]

It’s actually one of the top recommended machines for popups due to its small footprint, nsf rating, and durability. A mini would be better for steaming but I’d probably choose a decent over the micra due to the micras small boiler and poor cup clearance tbh.

There’s also concerns about the micras build quality

[weary chasm]

I'm not sure if ever got nsf rating

[cedar otter]

Another shop from another Loquat employee

Loquat manager-> opened wynd
Loquat asst manager -> opening lynx soon
Another employee -> runs animo coffee
Another one -> runs new home coffee

Literally all the guys in their team is doing side hustle

Oh @tight gorge what did u think of out of thin air croissant

[weary chasm]

Side hustle or their main job

[cedar otter]

Their main job is loquat

Except for Celo who left to open Wynd

Also the other guy who will be leaving to open lynx

[dull adder]

Gen... the chain KBBQ place?

Good sarcasm haha

[tight gorge]

Good! My son loved it

[tight gorge]

lol no, sushi gen

[dull adder]

Ah okay, I haven't been

[weary chasm]

I think it's better. But I think sushi Gen is pretty good too

But for my budget, Tokyo central sushi is pretty good

Especially the new sushi place that opened inside

Check out Waka Sakura!
https://yelp.to/dkZ7zQAcEp

[compact hound]

Son loved it but not you?

Jk

[tight gorge]

I said good foo

[eternal birch]

https://www.yelp.com/biz/kantaro-sushi-torrance

[tight gorge]

lol

[eternal birch]

my rec although I go sushi gen since its a couple blocks

[boreal solar]

Oh I don’t know for sure either. I just assumed that’s what they meant by the commercial rated blurb all over their marketing material. I’ve never used one for one. I just know a lot of people that do.

[brave egret]

Cheers, was nice meeting you guys

[boreal solar]

I used to use an Oscar. Worked surprisingly well…

[weary chasm]

I know they tried

But I'm not sure they ever got nsf

[cedar otter]

Oh wait are we meeting up for food next time?

[dull adder]

Decent doesn't have NSF
Also NSF isn't necessary for food service, just streamlines the process

[honest seal]

Oh, I've not checked this channel before. I'm in orange county 🙂

[drowsy knot]

decent is fine for popup if not too busy. If a lot of milk drinks the line gets long. Could just be I’m a slow barista 😂

[weary chasm]

Iced drinks only. Lol.

[tight gorge]

@cedar otter don’t feel bad charging $6 for a croissant

[cedar otter]

Yikessss

[weary chasm]

Inflation!

[drowsy knot]

we just got the Bouchon Bakery cookbook (based on feran posts in bana) gonna make our own croissants!

[compact hound]

“it’s good croissants :)”

[boreal solar]

If I’m honest I rarely steam and pull my shots at the same time. We’re just old and would die at a super busy full fledged cafe outside of popups and farmers markets I guess 😅

[civic crest]

where is that, helms?

[compact hound]

Pie room

Mr akira said its his fave croissant

[civic crest]

oh curtis stone

[tight gorge]

Yeah, I have a croissant sickness and need to get help

lol

funny enough going to Gwen on Friday

[surreal pivot]

Baker’s Bench charges $6 too

[drowsy knot]

I did a private pop-up a couple weeks ago and served:

• 50 espresso/cappuccino
• 38 drip coffees (batch-brew style through a technivorm)
• 10 cold brews
• 10-15 iced lattes (lost track on that one)

This was in 3 hours so maybe not overwhelming volume but it was hard waiting for the shot to finish before steaming milk while watching the line get longer. I def wouldn’t want to do that every day

[cedar otter]

Have u bought butter recently? It’s so expensive

[boreal solar]

Sorry, I didn’t mean to imply you weren’t doing high volume. I was just making a joke about speed. Honestly I just want to roast. So I’m not a great barista in general.

[dull adder]

This coffee was tasting excellent today

[drowsy knot]

oh no worries I didn’t take it that way at all! I was just commenting that at that volume it felt hard to wait for the steaming. I have no idea if that’s a lot or not but I was guessing it was on the lower end of busy. I could probably get better at ghost steaming and building other efficiencies into the system but I don’t want to make that many drinks that often, lol

[drowsy knot]

That’s great to hear! I don’t have any left from that session but just roasted a couple more variations to try. Such a good green

[compact hound]

I also brewed it today! Holding up quite nice

Still prefer the mejo but the ayla is very solid too

[primal laurel]

https://discord.com/channels/726985544038612993/1316128389018685480

Selling my Aug 2024 Max2 with SLM if anyone in SoCal is interested in taking it off my hands 🙂

[eternal birch]

bunker coffee co in gangnam

[tight gorge]

Looks sick

Prob coal

[compact hound]

Thats why all the pastries are there

Need the coal to cut through the sweets

[eternal birch]

super good

they know their shit

served with a can of sparkling water, spoon to stir

[tight gorge]

Blessed!

[cold apex]

Is anyone awake and able to proof-read some things I wrote for a work application at a local shop?

[vivid violet]

have you tried Donut Man in Glendora ?

Their strawberry donuts are

https://www.thedonutmanca.com/

https://maps.app.goo.gl/9CYchfjWuoTTsv9z9

[vivid violet]

I'm not in the coffee space, but happy to proofread something 🙂

[surreal pivot]

Wayyyyy too sweet for me but their tiger tail is pretty solid

[vivid violet]

yeah, it's a good beetus boost

[surreal pivot]

🤣 beetus

[boreal solar]

Let me know if you need anything.

[weary chasm]

Maybe I'll do market research. I just don't normally go out of the way to eat Donuts. Not like coffee shops

[cold apex]

donut man is so fucking good

first time i got it was after a hike with my friend and we sat there for like 5 minutes in the parking lot eating out of the box in silence

all you could hear was us chewing and breathing loudly and going "oh my god"

which sounds wrong out of context

[cold apex]

will finish writing bits and post it here later :). hope you've been good btw, havent spoken to you in a while

[tight gorge]

Yooo, I got a new bag of the hydrangea el burro natty. I’ll DM you to get your address. Have to make up for giving you a burro blend (aka bag ends) last time.

[boreal solar]

Good. Shopify Sales are picking up with the holiday but I’m missing seeing you guys from time to time. Not sure what’s going on with the shop at this point. I suppose that’s why you’d be looking. 🙂

[ornate ingot]

Jackdorffeine tried my water lol after years of waiting

He liked it and had nothing bad to say about it but just doesn't want to add anything to the retail shelf

Due to a minimalist approach. I asked if he thought customers on average would get a better experience brewing with my water than whatever they have available and he said yes. But still no to stocking it

Or maybe he just hates me idk

[cold apex]

LOL let me send you some coffee for the holidays :). let me dm you

[cold apex]

and yeah, pretty much went quiet...

[compact hound]

Im not surprised he wouldn’t stock it I dont think its anything personal to you at all

[cold apex]

iron and kin is hiring and they told me to drop off a resume so im trying to grind out an application right now

but im also very intimidated by working there because everyone is like 5-6 years older than i am

so im trying hard to word this and realizing my growing sense of inexperience

[boreal solar]

You just have imposters syndrome. You’ve grown a lot since we met and you know more than a lot of baristas there if I’m honest. I think you’re more than capable.

[cold apex]

need critique

[cold apex]

i have coffee experience but no life experience

[boreal solar]

Most entry baristas don’t have a lot. But that’s something you can fix

[vivid violet]

for the work environment part, it may be a stronger application if you include things like:

• i want to make a strong positive impact towards company goals
• i would like to work amongst team members who can openly discuss the positives and negatives of the workplace, and are open to testing improvements to make workflow and workplace better

(using your own words)

basically conveying:

• not only are you interested in a functional team, but a nimble and effective one with respectful and transparent communication

[cold apex]

that's very helpful, thank you :)

[vivid violet]

glad to help. I've seen certain people work for places where the bosses aren't interested in open discussion or feedback, which causes issues to fester and high turnover rates.

so the interview process is not just a one-way thing. they also need to want to be better, and be open to feedback (in a respectful way, of course).

[cold apex]

just a general poll, anybody got things they'd like to see more of/less of in socal coffee shops? can be about the coffee itself or the work dynamics, etc

[turbid herald]

I feel like being nimble and willing to change and grow is something most places lack, that good shops have. Like Ondo is always rotating roasters they carry, equipment they are using, types of events they have, etc.

[ornate ingot]

I'd like just once to be served a brew I wouldn't consider watery, when I order a pour over

Also would like to see those same types of shops give up on trying to make their light roasts work for milk drinks

[tight gorge]

More actual light roasts

More espresso focused menus

Actual curation of their beans, not just because they get wholesale discounts from x roaster

[crude citrus]

My thoughts on your ideal work environment - It’s a good answer but perhaps too generic. Maybe try and make it more about how you would act and feel in a (hectic) coffee environment.

[cold apex]

i thought it felt generic, too. thanks :)

[cold apex]

i have been stuck on this question for ages. i genuinely cannot grasp what it wants me to talk about

[tight gorge]

You hand every customer their drink with the lid opening facing them.

s/ but maybe not

[dull adder]

I would probably answer it in context of the job. So think of a detail oriented barista and what the characteristics look like for that barista.

"You can tell I'm detail oriented because this question stumped me"

[crude citrus]

“I dose precisely to 18.0g, not 18.1 or 17.9, while asking the customer how their day is going”

I’m joking, partly.

[drowsy knot]

Exactly this, but about everything

[drowsy knot]

maybe something about how the entirety of the customer experience is a sum of the details. So being detail oriented is about your actions adding up to the best possible experience

[surreal pivot]

Don’t ever take anything that comes out of that guys mouth personally.

[vivid violet]

yes, specifics / being concrete definitely helps, because it is actionable and easily understood, so then it can also be discussed if there is a misunderstanding.

re: detail-oriented

love what Erik mentioned. paying attn to the coffee making process, making it repeatable, making it a pleasant experience, noticing when coworkers need help, etc.

• these specifics about every part of the process to make, as Erik so well put it, "the entirety of the customer experience is a sum of the details"

including your version of his statement, and then what some of those components actually are will demonstrate how you think about the customer experience holistically.

and if you want to go down the rabbit hole a bit, you could also think of ways to view and measure the experience, including profiles of users who are coming and what their motivations and challenges are:

• user who just wants a fast cup
• a regular who always orders the same thing
• someone who may need some help, based on how they're looking around with wide eyes
• ..

"i aim to understand the customer's needs, and meet and exceed their expectations"

[cold apex]

wow, thanks for the insight. i never really thought of it that way, i submitted the application but you all make me want to send another one 😭. i'll keep these in mind for an in-person interview if there is one. i think i answered a lot of the questions very generally and gave good answers but failed to attach a lot of them to the coffee shop experience (mostly out of my own lack of experience with applications for jobs)

it makes sense that they'd want a candidate to see and align those things

[dull adder]

Generally, with resumes and applications and interviews, you want to display why you're a good fit for the position they're looking to fill. So any questions should be answered in the context of their company and the job position.
Seems like a good learning lesson here. And it's something that can take some effort and it's a skill to hone.

You got this though. Seems like you care, if you can put that on display during the interview then I think you'll be fine. Good luck!

@drowsy knot brewed the Ayla Bombe again today. As a pour over and an espresso.
With RO the pour over was pretty unspecial, some added hardness and it was tasting much better. Not sure if it's "fade" or under development but just found it interesting.
Espresso was tasting quite good even with just RO
https://visualizer.coffee/shots/8781d961-f0c3-4457-9492-fcbafe3ac93d

I can't really give any specific flavor callouts, but I'm intending to cup it this weekend against a few other coffees

[compact hound]

Black tea and lemon were the main things i picked up

Think it was a little sugary

I definitely do think its fading

[drowsy knot]

Thanks for the feedback! I’m at the beginning of trying to figure out the diff between fade and under development at this roast level. The mejo ul def seemed to fade pretty fast but also felt under developed to me. I drank all my ayla from that session so fast I didn’t get a chance to see it fade, lol. Did a number of a/b tests with the ayla, basha bekele and kenya tinganga just recently so really looking forward to comparing in the cup. Might have to catch you on a friday and get your thoughts!

[drowsy knot]

definitely could be! Though I’m in NC at my dad’s and he has a bag of my basha roast from early october and the first cup I brewed with his mountain water tasted so faded. Ended up cutting it 1/4 tap and 3/4 distilled and all the fade disappeared. The more I learn the less I feel like I know 🤦‍♂️

[drowsy knot]

similar transition to tea notes that you noted with the mejo (though black tea vs oolong). Very interesting, thanks!

[dull adder]

I'm going to open the Mejo next so I'm curious how it'll be

[drowsy knot]

Curious to hear what you find. Felt like a tiny window on that one and not sure why. Roasted a couple more batches with a touch more development bc a few degrees made a big difference in my earlier tests

[boreal solar]

I’ve had similar issues with a few of mine. I found lowering the preheat just a smidge and upping the dev time helped as well. There’s such a fine line between roasty and fruity as always though

[tight gorge]

The cortado at MCO was lacking

the their sig drink meh

Cool vibe though

[drowsy knot]

interesting. Were those coffees origin/varietal/processing specific? Agreed that line is so fine!

[compact hound]

Yeah not a fan of mco tbh

Only been once though

[eternal birch]

idk what mco even uses, its just a nice place to work tbh

kaffee bohnen a couple blocks away is better but I dont think coffee in ktown is good

[tight gorge]

They use La Cabra. They had an eg-1 there but idk if they even use it.

[tight gorge]

Yeah, document also mid

[cedar otter]

Document used to be THE place to get coffee in ktown

Lots of talented baristas came out of there

[weary chasm]

Interesting

I know nothing. I'm post covid era

[young spindle]

What does talented barista entail

[tight gorge]

I’ll take a guess. Fast, skilled, great customer service.

Bonus if they care about coffee

[weary chasm]

hospitality business.

[surreal pivot]

All of the drinks there are lacking. Staff is very friendly though. Very chill spot

[tight gorge]

And now Golden Deli SG takes the lead for best pho

[drowsy knot]

In the mountains of Western North Carolina helping my dad with some home repair after the hurricane and it’s 30 with freezing rain. Would pay a lot for some pho right now but I don’t think they deliver 😂

[tight gorge]

Blair witch project vibes

[drowsy knot]

def going to take my wife to golden deli when i get back. Menu looks

[compact hound]

Looks like you’re making me go to SG 🙄

[carmine coyote]

Rarely make it to the west side, so I dropped into Hooked Venice for the first time. Great atmosphere and great coffee!

[weary chasm]

Did you like the crew shirt? Lol

Phin in the front. Pho in the back

[weary chasm]

See you in Singapore! /s

[vivid violet]

golden deli is so good. love the imperial rolls (# 57 Fried Pork Egg Rolls Served w/Vegetables) with the lettuce wraps, dipped in fish sauce.

the pho (as well as the bun) is good.

(bun is soup-less noodles with goodies, usually some fried imperial rolls cut up as well)

https://thegoldendeli.com/menu/san-gabriel/appetizers/

looks like they are SUPER serious about their Spring rolls, from their website..

can make imperial rolls at home too:
https://www.seriouseats.com/vietnamese-imperial-rolls-recipe-7970014

[tight gorge]

FYI starting today they are closed until mid Jan.

[vivid violet]

anyone gone to Picaresca Barra de Cafe ? a friend went there and got chilaquiles and coffee.. looks good !

https://maps.app.goo.gl/M1bjBeyZ2cpAPVg76

it's around the corner from Otomisan, a Japanese place which has been open forever and has really good reviews:

https://maps.app.goo.gl/tZVnk2wboEGR3Gkr7

and also kinda close to Guerilla Tacos:

https://maps.app.goo.gl/LrMUqXLHkVLd5oTG9

[mellow sonnet]

My car is repairable 🫡 keeping my unlimited charging and HW3 without the camera inside

That's a win

[drowsy knot]

excellent, that’s great!

[turbid herald]

Never been, but that does look good! Eel bowl at Otomisan looks solid too.

[cedar otter]

Literally best tesla

[drowsy knot]

Curious if anyone is available/interested in tasting some a/b roasting tests this Saturday? I have two roasts each of the Basha Bekele natural, Ayla Bombe washed and Kenya Tinganga washed. Haven’t tasted the Ayla Bombe yet but the Basha & Kenya roasts have me excited to get feedback. Would be at my place in Silver Lake, maybe an hour on Saturday mid morning if there’s enough interest. Cheers!

[boreal solar]

What time were you thinking?

I still need to drop those greens you were interested in anyway. If it’s early enough I can swing by if my partner is ok with it.

Also just got had some yuunan Guiben natural(fruity and complex) and yuunan dongka washed(chocolatey when roasted dark) arrive if you wanted to try some as well as the Diego

[dull adder]

I'm a maybe, depending on time. But I think I can. I'm meeting with a friend from out of town that day

[boreal solar]

Wife says she’s ok with watching the kiddo. So I’m a probably depending on when. 🙂

I’ll bring the philos and a couple bags I have roasted as well.

Could probably bring the xbloom studio if you wanted

[drowsy knot]

I was thinking 10am-11am as a possibility but have to confirm with my wife who has jury duty today. I was thinking less meetup and more a tasting and have all the necessary gear. I don’t think I’ll get clearance for a more complicated setup as our youngest flies home from college that afternoon. Def happy to check out your roasts as well @boreal solar ! Interested in the yuunan greens along with the Diego if you have enough. dm me some costs when you have time and thanks!

[boreal solar]

No worries. And yeah, I have like 50lbs of each. I can part with smaller amounts for you pretty easily. I’ll price it out after work and send it over. 🙂

[primal laurel]

Following up if anyone local is in the market for a used Max2 (latest version, before blind burr update), DM if so 🙂

[primal laurel]

I'd argue that the pre-refresh 2015/2016 model years are, but I might be biased

[tight gorge]

Confirmed cringe https://www.instagram.com/reel/DDdMWmyPHFQ/?igsh=NTc4MTIwNjQ2YQ==

kfiam640

LA is a city full of unique experiences, including coffee omakase! @tangiblegratitude

Instagram

[compact hound]

His script makes me want to

[weary chasm]

Is this successful?

[carmine coyote]

So dramatic, lol 😂

It did seem like it was recorded after the fact though

[eternal birch]

he introduces his other failed ventures during the tasting as well

one of which is a maison margiela clone

[cold apex]

my man needs a public speaking class

[cold apex]

this is so extremely embarassing

especially because theres already SO MANY maison margiela clones out there

[cedar otter]

What is ceremonial presentation of gratitude

Is he getting on his knees and bowing down at the end

[eternal birch]

you can see in that post the clothes hes wearing

margiela clone

[cedar otter]

My brother in Christ has $3 ikea glass bottle to pour the cold coffee

[compact hound]

Can you be grateful please?

[cedar otter]

The gratitude was unfortunately not tangible

[eternal birch]

everything made through varia vs3

[compact hound]

Good one ngl

[cedar otter]

He’s also petty to reply to all the comments

But seriously tho

I have 5 coffees frozen

For this type of thing

Should I yeet it for Christmas Day

I have two Mate Matiwos in two different lots and 3 Fekadu from 3 different roasters in 3 different roast levels

I just don’t have fancy maison margiela clones nor ikea wine glasses

[eternal birch]

o ya

[compact hound]

Are you going to make pastries to pair with your mate matiwos

[cedar otter]

Yeah how about some blueberry eggo waffles

[eternal birch]

bringing bunker company co berry blend #3 from seoul if you wanna try some @cedar otter

[cedar otter]

I just don’t like the owner

He’s too…

Too much lol

Respect his hustle

[cedar otter]

Also tell him he’s missing an E

[eternal birch]

got 3 bags

[dull adder]

Feel free to not mention your prior failed businesses

[cedar otter]

I don’t have failed businesses

🙂‍↔️

I technically didn’t lose money

[dull adder]

Oh snap okay

Good outcome

[cedar otter]

I’ll mention other people’s failed businesses tho

[vivid violet]

Hey Erik, how many folks would you like/need for the tasting ?

• I'd love to join, if there's room. and if extra space, a couple coffee friends (who Lyxotte knows) may also like to join.

• I have 3 bags from Ragdoll (Mexican, Ethiopian, Rwandan).. could bring those too. all 3 are open, i'm rotating through them for my morning espresso-based latte.

[drowsy knot]

Hey Rory was thinking 4-6. I think @boreal solar and @carmine coyote are planning on coming and possibly @dull adder so if you want to bring a couple friends that would work well just lmk. Thinking of starting around 10am

[drowsy knot]

Hey @weary chasm , thanks for the samples (was sitting with theavatar at Ondo for the Prodigal tasting). I just got back from NC and had a chance to brew the Ethiopia Yirgacheffe:

1:16.67 | 60gh/30kh water at 98c | Brew Burrs at 575µm | 2:30 tbt

Fragrance - melon and toast, a little roast forward | Aroma - candied apple and tootsie roll

Nice mouthfeel and sweetness, taste of melon and a hint of jammy fruit I can’t identify. Aftertaste that makes me think of light astringency but actually I think is more just roastiness but in the comforting way as it doesn’t dry.

Getting more sweet and round as it cools but having trouble picking out specific notes. A touch on the more developed side and would take steamed milk really well.

Will try the other sample this afternoon or tomorrow!

[dull adder]

I need to get to that! Maybe tomorrow

[dull adder]

Forgot to update you on this!
The Mejo was pretty flat unfortunately. I should have gotten into it earlier, maybe I missed the window on it? It at least didn't taste bad, like roasty or astringent

[drowsy knot]

The UL of the mejo was disappointing and fell off really quickly 😢

But, the light roast is pretty nice! If you make it by Saturday I should have some of that to try 👍

I’m finding shorter roasts with slightly higher drop temps are holding up better

[dull adder]

Have you tried microwaving the beans first?

[drowsy knot]

I saw BK was doing something with that but haven’t tried myself. Would have to get a microwave first! I think I’ve always feared underdevelopment going too fast on a drum but I think those fears (at least on my little sf-1) are misplaced. I’m getting fully developed light roasts in ~7min and that includes a low heat soak through turnaround to avoid tipping/scorching. Seems to be working so far and my last round of tests with a/b samples is confirming that shorter is def better in my system when going light. Especially moving faster towards the end.

[dull adder]

I know nothing about roasting so this is fascinating

The little SF-1 that could

[drowsy knot]

And I was holding back on the details bc I get too in the weeds, lol!

I truly do love that roaster and there are few “things” that I feel that way about

[blazing gust]

wym its so profound

[vivid violet]

wonderful, look forward to seeing you all !

I'll check if the two extra friends will join us, and will let you know in DM.

Evan (Ragdoll Coffee), since you're joining.. then i won't bring the partially-consumed open bags i have from you 🙂

[boreal solar]

I have plenty of partially consumed bags I can bring 😂…side note what do you think of the Mexico? The espresso version of the roast profile is on the newer side.

[tight gorge]

Excited to give @ornate ingot a second try!

[vivid violet]

looove the Mexico. I think that's my/Sis/Dad's fav of the three

[drowsy knot]

@weary chasm The more processed coffee:

1:16 | 90gh/45kh water at 92c | Brew Burrs at 500µm | 2:30 tbt

Fragrance - mango/papaya/ripe banana | Aroma - Strong tropical vibes, stewed tropical fruits

Lighter mouthfeel than expected with the strong aroma. Light sweetness with some stronger roast tones. Heavier on the high and low notes but I find I’m wanting something in the mids to tie it together. Def getting a little rounder fruit expression as it cools but still with a sharper cut-off in the finish.

See what you mean about the processing dominating. Strange too because the mid tones are carried more in the aroma and less in the taste. Don’t know the varietal or processing and have almost no experience roasting these types of coffees so my notes are not as informed as I’d like.

Thanks again for the samples! Feel free to drop by this Saturday, 10am if you’d like to try a few of mine

[compact hound]

El paraiso tropical! From what I can remember I actually had a similar experience to yours

I got another dose left maybe i’ll brew it soon to refresh my memory

[drowsy knot]

Tropical def makes sense! 😂 Have to add that at room temperature the fruits really punch through at first and the body is syrupy thick. Really different experiences at different temperatures

[boreal solar]

@cold apex @velvet bone decent pick up for one of you.

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/455992237312939/?mibextid=HHaHfI

[weary chasm]

i thought i gave you "rose tea" but maybe its "tropical"? not sure.

i do feel like rose tea was a more tame tropical.

yeah. i have two versions. one i roasted darker. i'll try that in a bit.

it felt a bit empty.

thanks for the invite. i'm away on holiday/vacation, or else i'd see if i can attend.

thanks for the feedback!

[boreal solar]

I’m bringing him tropical on Saturday to try anyway. I’m also bringing some plum if you’re coming along.

[weary chasm]

stuck on vacation mode.

because people use "holiday" here for "vacation" lol.

[cold apex]

thanks @tight gorge for the supply drop :) <3.

first cup is the panama gesha iridescence from hydrangea, addicting mouthfeel, silky body and a great candied grapefruit/orange blossom sweetness. cant wait to dig into the others

[vivid violet]

Erik, I think the trees were trying to preserve your anonymity..

thank you for hosting this interesting tasting of different roasts, was a pleasure to compare notes.

and so nice to see you there, Evan, theavatar, and Lyxotte !

[compact hound]

Omg so intimate

That looks so fun

[vivid violet]

it was a great sampling, and I only have a tiny headache and my ears and sinuses feel "fizzy" thanks to caffeine 😅

it was wild how some roasts were just 1 or 8 seconds longer, and the flavor was totally diff.

[vivid violet]

few more.. where you can actually see Erik 😅

[drowsy knot]

guys that was so much fun! Thank you for taking the time and all the helpful feedback. Rory your friends were great! Really appreciated them. @boreal solar thanks for the greens and for sharing some of your roasts!

[boreal solar]

Thanks for hosting. No need to thank me. Happy to share some greens anytime. I appreciate your roasting and leading the event. 👌

[cold apex]

lol i always get a little congested when i have too much caffiene

ears get a little muffled too

[ruby bison]

Hi LA, Merry Christmas (and happy holidays). I'm in town for a couple weeks in the South Bay (PV Torrance, Redondo area). What do you all consider the best cafes within maybe an hour of the above locations for specialty espresso?

[ornate ingot]

I know a few specialty cafes in those areas. In Redondo: Hi Fi Espresso and Pruvia Coffee Bar. In Torrance, Nook Coffee Bar. I'd probably try Hi Fi Espresso first.

Within an hour of those locations, you have a pretty insane number of options.

[blazing gust]

Ondo is great

[dull adder]

I like Reverent a lot. Offset is good, but more of the traditional specialty medium. Don't expect anything too wild

Endorffeine? Definitely an experience

[tight gorge]

https://tenor.com/view/ah-shit-here-we-go-again-ah-shit-cj-gta-gta-san-andreas-gif-13933485

[dull adder]

Haha. I tried to leave my message open ended

[ruby bison]

What's the deal with endorffeine?

[dull adder]

I like it ¯_(ツ)_/¯

It's famous. I think you should form your own opinion.

[dull adder]

Depending on what deal you're asking about 🤔
He sources only lighter, Nordic style roasts. The owner, Jack, is the only barista and runs it with his cousin.
He is particular about everything, down to the water chemistry. He has a particular style of pulling larger shots, dialed a particular way. His shop has no sweetners or sugar, he'll direct you to the next closest shop.
Better than your average shop, not up to some people's taste especially in this Discord. I'd get an espresso, at the least.

[ruby bison]

Ty. Obsessive light roast spro is exactly what I'm looking for.

[surreal pivot]

What he was trying to say is, be prepared for the possibility of going there and being treated like shit 😂.

You could have a positive experience though. But it’s important to know all outcomes before driving that far.

[earnest robin]

I had a wonderful experience there when he was open on weekends 🙂 got juicy shot, pulled about to 1:3 of 1:3.5

And in that mall in China town you can find other places. There's a famous Nashville chicken place right in front of it, but there's always a line so I have never been there

[boreal solar]

😅 old Jack is quite the polarizing figure in the community. I regularly have customers tell me to visit him as he seems like someone who serves coffee similar to my own. Then I hear about the interactions he has with roasters and I get terrified

I’m not sure my skin is thick enough.

[surreal pivot]

Oh interesting! I hadn’t heard about his interactions with roasters.

Doesn’t surprise me at all though. 😂

There shouldn’t be a need for thick skin in these contexts though

[tight gorge]

@eternal birch you been to Yumami in Lincoln Heights? Top 3 lunch spot for me in LA.

[tight gorge]

You should! He has been having Duckrabbit from Ohio a bit more than usual recently which is more developed than Sey, but it still comes out tasty.

[surreal pivot]

*Full disclosure: Our friend LA Brews is Jack’s silent partner 🤣

[compact hound]

Full disclosure: our friend PurrrpleSector is Jack’s opp

[tight gorge]

lol. I’ve only had pleasant experiences so def recommend him to everyone