Los Angeles/OC/San Diego 🌈

[tight gorge]

No, you are doing this for AMERICA

[cedar otter]

"industry secrets"

I'm currently carefully blending all the old beans with just the right amount of funk

like tim wendelboe caballero with some luminous crazy processing

LOL

[crude citrus]

Drip and ice coffee. Legal. Giving away Mt Hoji. Illegal.

[cedar otter]

straight to jail

[primal laurel]

That's very uncalifornian of you

If it's not in writing, it didn't happen heh

[tight gorge]

fair, but I do enjoy getting into the spirit the day of

[weary chasm]

Not too much it doesn't sound the alarm

[drowsy knot]

Just wanted to point out that technically you are not giving them a free coffee for voting, but for wearing an “I voted” sticker 🙂

[drowsy knot]

Every time I vote I get this stupid grin on my face because, well, we get to vote!

[drowsy knot]

For anyone with the mejorado I was handing out at the meetup I would recommend at least another week or two of rest. I'm tasting the (very slightly) more developed version this morning and it hasn't quite opened up yet. It may not, I may have handed out bags of grass! You have been warned...

[tight gorge]

I had it yesterday and I enjoyed it fwiw

had similar notes to the S&W version. It felt early still but not grassy at all

[drowsy knot]

That's great to hear - new roasting territory for me and appreciate the feedback. Was that spro or p/o?

[tight gorge]

PO!

[cedar otter]

yes of course

[drowsy knot]

@cedar otter Speaking of Ondo, I'm sitting here reconciling accounts and just checked off my first charge there on 7/6/24 for a pour over and a bag of Botz (both amazing). Those river street tacos were also 🔥

[tight gorge]

@civic crest https://www.instagram.com/p/DB9hQKOBuwh/?igsh=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==

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Helms Bakery (@helmsbakery), one of the most anticipated bakery cafes in Los Angeles history, has opened. First announced in 2012, the Sang Yoon (@chefsangyoon) operation opened to the public in the Culver City Helms Bakery complex on November 1. History is no stranger to Helms Bakery, once a mighty wholesale baking operation that spanned tens o...

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[compact hound]

Gf just sent me this

You going?

[tight gorge]

Obvi

[earnest robin]

An actual bakery and not a furniture store? What a blasphemy!

[civic crest]

I saw this! Unfortunately I’m taking a break from butter and pastries. My cholesterol test came back the worst it’s ever been

Lmk how it is

[tight gorge]

Good call! I’ll let you know if it’s worth sneaking a tiny piece in

[dull adder]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1230592906461581323/1303103616739049492/IMG_7124.png?ex=672a8950&is=672937d0&hm=8e764d758f10691e0d34047f68acd86754607333d7c6d9cdad82246a6987931c&

I was telling my friend about the cheese coffee, he accidentally asked them directly about it

He thought he was messaging Ondo? Lol

I brewed it as espresso a few days ago and couldn't finish it. Undrinkable. My wife even asked why I didn't finish the cup.

And now my P100 still smells of it

[compact hound]

That coffee is 1000x cheesier than H&S pizza

[cold apex]

My zp6 has trust issues now from that thing

[dull adder]

Oh yeah. I get little to no cheese, thankfully, from that coffee.

And it also doesn't taint my grinder

I'm brewing the Aviary 008 for the first time and feel like I can detect it a little, maybe. And I ran some other coffee through first

[dull adder]

Did you bring it? And leave it behind?

I picked it up, seemed no one wanted it. And Erik passed on it

[cold apex]

No. I think Andrew did. It was up for grabs but taking that home is more like doing charity to everyone else.

I brought a dose home to prank my friends. My meetup brew was surprisingly good compared to this. Not that the brew at the meetup was good, but this one was downright awful. It tasted like someone slipped Nyquil or crushed allergy pills into it

[tight gorge]

We talking about Orange Drop?

[cold apex]

Unfortunately

[tight gorge]

Next meetup im bringing a sign that says "No Co-Ferments Allowed" lol

[compact hound]

BoP is that you?

[tight gorge]

• sign for my grinder

[dull adder]

That's a good description of what I get on the nose. But I don't get this on the taste. At least since I've been told cheese, that's like all I could think of

[tight gorge]

ill bring this bad boy for the coferms

[cold apex]

Ziploc baggie and a hammer to properly dispose of afterwards

Just smash the beans. It's a coferment. They'll extract regardless

[cedar otter]

oh naur

[cedar otter]

ayo?

[cedar otter]

is diego/wilton safe

[tight gorge]

all coffee is welcomed ❤️

ill just bring a KinGrinder so we can use it on the wild process beans lmao

[vivid violet]

if you enjoy voting, i hear the Swiss really take it to the next level 😅

[dull adder]

He lives in Washington, somewhat regularly buys coffee from you. You opened your doors for us (and his fam) when Ondo was closed on Monday.
He loves Ondo hah

[cedar otter]

Trying to go here on Wednesday

[drowsy knot]

I just read a little about their system - intense!

[compact hound]

@drowsy knot dude you did a really nice job with this one

My only critique and it’s kind of a cringe one there’s a little bit of brown in the cup more towards the finish

The florals are really shining through in the cup

Really lovely peach expression as well very sweet

Almost gummy like

Nice rounded acidity as well

[tight gorge]

Yeah the end is where I didn’t enjoy it as much. First two thirds I did

This my thinking that with more rest it would get better. I’ll try again tomorrow

[compact hound]

Yeah i think in a week or two the brown will be a little more subtle

[tight gorge]

We out here.

[compact hound]

Is it a zoo or what bro

Show us the haul when you acquire it

[tight gorge]

Prob 30 people ahead of me

[turbid herald]

I want to go, but can only make it on the weekends and imagine it’ll be insanely busy any time on the weekend. Definitely add pics of what you get!

[tight gorge]

Shelves look pretty empty

@cedar otter any standouts at Helms?

[compact hound]

He struck out when he went

[tight gorge]

Fuuu

At least I’ll get to try the croissants, which is my base comparison for bakeries

[compact hound]

Are those like pretzels under the pain?

[tight gorge]

Looks like it, they hype?

[compact hound]

No idea

[drowsy knot]

Thanks really appreciate the feedback from you and @tight gorge ! That bit of roastiness is exactly what I’m trying to modulate in the last 20 seconds of my roasts right now. I want to bring a little caramel to the finish to help round out the extra acidity of these light roasts but without crossing into toffee and worse. It’s a super tricky balance but the goal is to backdoor lighter stuff into the mainstream at my carts and see if I can expand the tent at the lighter end of the spectrum. Not there yet but getting closer 🙂

[compact hound]

Yeah thats exactly what I thought back to as I was drinking it as well!

I dont necessarily think the brown in this cup is bad

But i think for BANA preferences its definitely not ideal

I feel like you nailed it for what you were going for

[cedar otter]

Everything was sold out when I got there

Dole whip is alright but I think the one I had in hawaii was better

[boreal solar]

You can make decent dole whip with a can of pineapple and a ninja creami tbh

[cedar otter]

ah I need to bring back my ninja creami

I also have a pacojet that I acquired used but it's way too damn loud to use at Ondo LOL

I need to provide 3m ear muffs

[boreal solar]

Ondo Coffee and Gelato Co. Sounds pretty classy.

[weary chasm]

Single origin espresso pulled on top of dole whip

😂

[cedar otter]

pineapple co-ferment on top of dole whip

[compact hound]

@tight gorge whatd you end up getting

[weary chasm]

Is this gonna be $15?

Lol

[cedar otter]

Yes

[tight gorge]

Pistachio cookie and croissant were 🔥

Lemon morning bun a tad sweet, the lemon paste was good but sweet. Choco cookie aight, but I got it since it was the only item named after the shop. lol

Croissant is top 3 in LA

[civic crest]

thanks for sharing!

[boreal solar]

Have you been to baskin robins lately? that’s not even that bad by todays standards.

[weary chasm]

Yeah. I'm only half joking

Just an ice cream truck on the street is like $10 for ice cream cone.

Ugh

😂

So $10+ so shot = $15

[compact hound]

Thanks for the review king

Love you

[turbid herald]

What else rounds out the top 3 croissants?

[compact hound]

I think his consists of petitgrain

Not sure what the other one would be

[tight gorge]

Petitgrain and fondry

Granted the one I had today was chocolate. I liked that they used a darker chocolate than most

[compact hound]

Had a feeling fondry was the other one

[boreal solar]

@cedar otter “member when we went to coffee shop and I watched snoopy” congrats. You created a memory

[compact hound]

I have a good feeling what he’ll play during xmas

[weary chasm]

Mariah Carey? 😂

[cedar otter]

that's awesome

[cedar otter]

babymetal on repeat

[turbid herald]

Sweet potato pie from Doubting Thomas was really good. I’ll finally need to check out Petitgrain, maybe next weekend. Is there usually a lengthy line pre-open on weekends there?

[weary chasm]

Lol. I saw it but haven't watched

https://youtu.be/q57usN9RMcQ?si=X-gyj4RiFBLDHsbL

[compact hound]

@tight gorge would probably know

[tight gorge]

No, it’s chill nowadays

[tight gorge]

https://tenor.com/view/mark-cuban-shark-tank-notes-taking-notes-remember-gif-15073512

Never been there, adding to list

[tight gorge]

Correction: wife says we went like 4 years ago 😅

[compact hound]

@drowsy knot tasting pretty nice today!

From my vague memory of the one dose I had of the S&W roast this has a much juicier citrus (orange and lime) acidity

Florals are quite subtle in this cup it’s definitely more in the back

Florals in S&W shined more

I think the S&W was a little sweeter too

Again im only going based off of one sample, vague memory, and one brew of each

No brown detected

[drowsy knot]

Great feedback, thanks! I struggled with this for a while and then updosed to 1:15 and dropped the brew temp to 93c (I think I saw Bill from Hydrangea mention this) and it opened up for me. Agree the orange and lime is tasty. I think the S&W was on his stronghold?

[compact hound]

Yeah I think it was stronghold

I actually brewed this at 96c at a 1:17

It’s a really nice roast

[drowsy knot]

That’s super interesting. For me the lower brew temp and higher dose tied everything together but I think that gets into very subjective preference. Now I want to try 1:17 and 96c cause that’s the exact opposite direction. My water is 75GH/35KH what are you brewing with?

[compact hound]

I have 0 clue about my water

All i know is its very soft

[drowsy knot]

Well hopefully will have more coffees to share after I get through a fundraiser I’m doing in a couple weeks. This is my current greens backlog:

[compact hound]

Basha

[drowsy knot]

Doesn’t include 2kg of a honey process from El Salvador that I didn’t put in the system yet

Basha is such a good green it’s basically impossible to mess up. One of the best I’ve ever worked with

But also super excited for when the tinganga comes off rest it cupped so good like a memory of Kenya from 6-7 years ago

[eternal birch]

hello, I went today and was looking for someone to share feedback

pretty much not worth it

bites are extremely small + doesnt pair well + not baked himself

coffee is all guatemala + using conical for very floral beans which isnt intentionally done, he just has a varia vs3

no espresso either

price is 80 now which is even more unworth

[brave crystal]

Oh my. Not baked himself? Robbery

[eternal birch]

his mocktail hybrid brew was good though that was the only thing I found nice

idk I bought it before looking at the instagram + there wasnt much info available

[brave crystal]

Thanks for being a guinea pig at least

[cedar otter]

woooow this is a useful info

trying to also launch an "omakase" service

[tight gorge]

Does he roast the beans?

[eternal birch]

nope

he has a fellow stagg and varia vs3, no other equipment

[cedar otter]

so he's just a home dude

who's ripping people off

[eternal birch]

yeah

[cedar otter]

like people in here have equipment/coffee that is 10x the price

not to call anyone out

[eternal birch]

pls let us know if you need some trial runners

[cedar otter]

for sure

[tight gorge]

Does he say who roasted the coffee?

I guess it’s all about the curation, but still.

[cedar otter]

for $80

you can get nice sushi

like

for some whatever guat beans and varia vs3

where's the money going

I know so many guys who want to start their own coffee cart and whatever

[tight gorge]

it’s also in his garage right?

[cedar otter]

and their whole thing is like "I'm gonna serve expensive coffee"

and they were also asking "how can I get wholesale pricing"

bro...

[tight gorge]

Yeah, they usually all pivot to normie beans 😢

[cedar otter]

I mean

would anyone really be happy if I served el diviso pizza

for the omakase

I already have like 4 courses sort of rough drafted

it's more about how can I finetune the experience

[eternal birch]

not who but where and 3/4 were also roasted guatemala

[cedar otter]

where as in the origin?

and not the roaster

[eternal birch]

with one guatemala geisha from tokyo

not the roaster

[cedar otter]

oh leaves

he prob buys beans from kumquat or dayglow

lol

[tight gorge]

Mameya is Tokyo was a sick omakase

[cedar otter]

like retail price

and go "this is how much I need to charge"

[tight gorge]

$45 bucks but 3/5 courses where made with Cruz Loma gesha

[cedar otter]

nice

was there pastry/food pairing with mameya?

could I get away w/out food

i know it's a way to increase ticket price

[tight gorge]

Small pastry

[cedar otter]

cool

this is all very helpful haha

[tight gorge]

They had two $ tiers, depending on which bean you picked. Otherwise the menu was the same minus the mocktail which varied based on the bean

[compact hound]

@eternal birch sorry you basically got scammed bro

Thanks for letting us know

[cedar otter]

time to really work on ondo experience

[compact hound]

Dude not even baking their own pastries is so fucked up LOL

[cedar otter]

I know one course will be a comparison brew with two habtamu fekadu roasted by 2 diff roasters

[compact hound]

H&S and Sept?

[cedar otter]

H&S and Luna

[compact hound]

Ooooo

[cedar otter]

there might be rogue habtamu at my friends roastery

maybe I can buy it and roast

habtamu 3 ways

[compact hound]

I loved habtamu so i’d go to that tasting/experience

[cedar otter]

yeah probably like:
course 1: welcome drink coffee mocktail
course 2: temperature plays with espresso
course 3: comparison brewing
course 4: dessert-like milk bev

when this girl joins us in december I can prob have her help out too

[eternal birch]

its alright, used to getting scammed globally trying new coffee

got scammed @ buoy sf last week when I thought mix and match onigiri was $7.50 when it was in fact, 7.50 per onigiri

[compact hound]

Were the vibes decent at least?

Looks wise and just actual hospitality/service

Also when you say they dont make the pastries

[eternal birch]

vibes were good! and the location was good, going to assume thats his parents house

[compact hound]

Do you mean the guy who makes the coffee doesnt make them

Or do they literally just buy them from some bakery

[eternal birch]

yes, its from a bakery in palos verdes

[compact hound]

Bruh

What the fuck

LOL

[compact hound]

Nice shots!

[tight gorge]

What camera ? 😅

[eternal birch]

fuji xt4 edited to look like potra 400 film

[weary chasm]

oh. what about the scale

and brewer. was it just freeform?

[eternal birch]

pourover on origami, did not use scale for that but he has a fellow scale

the only time he used a scale was to portion out the coffee

pourover > hybrid brew > milk brew > mocktail

[weary chasm]

well. did they at least sound like they coffee nerds? lol

or i guess i'm not sure what kind of persona they should be representing

[eternal birch]

somewhat?? tried to explain specialty coffee and then lost me when he came out with the 'grading scale' 0-100

[weary chasm]

i wonder if thats the greens grading.

or is that cup score grading.

[weary chasm]

thanks again for your review. lol.

[eternal birch]

SCA grading, first time I hear of it

[weary chasm]

ohh

yeah. those do exist.

but i'm not sure if thats what you would talk about...

[eternal birch]

i cannot see how a grade on 0-100 would be any relevant for coffee though

[weary chasm]

thats like grading a game like on IGN. haha

i think the original definition was that coffee greens 80+ is specialty

or its one definition.

[eternal birch]

seems like anything below 80 is just not good/shit enthusiasts dont drink

and 80+ is just stuff we drink and the score doesnt really matter at that point

ngl if he just had at least a flat burr grinder and maybe used different coffee/techniques since its supposed to be 'omakase' it wouldve been a better experience

[weary chasm]

you mean like

conical, flat bed, siphon, aeropress?

what if it was a df54?

[blazing gust]

lol I’m glad someone went to that thing

I might just be a hater but I’m really skeptical of anyone using Japanese terminology and themes for a curated experience

It’s like a marketing gimmick

[weary chasm]

Well

The most important skill in a business, is probably selling

Lol

So I guess as long as it's profitable, they can keep refining it

Coffee skills with no business skills means a dead business...

[blazing gust]

Fair enough

As long as the customers aren’t educated they won’t know better

But yeah it’s fair to allow the skill to level up too

[haughty lake]

any coffee meetups in LA-Pasadena-Riverside ?

[weary chasm]

One happened last month

Maybe someone else can host another

[eternal birch]

any interesting new shops (not west of ktown)

[weary chasm]

Have you visited ondo Coffee already?

I know someone opening up. But not yet ready. Will be in Gardena area though

[ornate ingot]

Any idea if they would be open to stocking empirical water (provided for free) to sell on the shelf next to bags of coffee (and take all profits)?

[eternal birch]

TB&TB?

will be visiting Ondo on wednesday!

[surreal pivot]

@compact hound what recipe are you using for that Ayla French roast?

[weary chasm]

Some other name. Afaik.

[weary chasm]

Will forward it to them and see if they got interest

[eternal birch]

would love some more, I work down in Torrance and options are limited. mostly go to nook

[compact hound]

Have you been to reverent?

It’s mid but better than nook imo

[eternal birch]

no but damn its in rolling hills 💀 I'm North Torrance

[weary chasm]

What about offset?

Lol

[compact hound]

15g, 1:3 bloom for 1 min, high kettle agitation pour up to 150g, wait till water gets closed to bed and then pour to 270g slow flow rate w/ minimal agitation, swirl

V60 w/ ZP6

[eternal birch]

I've been to the SF one, looks like theres a new one by redondo

will go have a look

[dull adder]

My house. But that place doesn't do milk drinks

Offset is good, but don't expect crazy light roasts on offer

[dull adder]

Who?! We have to find these people

[tight gorge]

Reverent is aight, they serve loquat and b&w…

Offset is a local chain nowadays, so coal adjacent for sure

[cedar otter]

They now serve moim too

[eternal birch]

in that case iced americano please

[dull adder]

I like Reverent. Not every coffee shop can be Ondo or Endorffeine

They have a good set of offerings on espresso and pour over

[tight gorge]

I will note I’m a signature drink kinda guy when I visit shops. In very few will I rawdog a spro

[eternal birch]

ngl I heard some bad things about endorffeine and was pleasantly surprised to super good coffee

also guy has his dog under the counter which is cute

[dull adder]

Ah. I judge everyone on their straight spro hah

[dull adder]

You'll like Reverent then

[eternal birch]

I never do straight spro, usually order cortado + latte

[tight gorge]

Why inflict so much pain unto yourself. I only do that if beans selection and equipment passes the eye test.

[dull adder]

Scoring is still relevant. But definitely don't try to buy based on q score

[tight gorge]

All the signs feel very agro about the dog. I get it, but sheesh.

[dull adder]

Weirdly I still like traditional espresso with a medium roast. It's why I kept the Niche for so long, and now technically it's on loan though that friend I think is going to buy it

[dull adder]

This was the definition from the SCA for a time. But they changed it maybe a couple years ago

https://dailycoffeenews.com/2021/09/27/what-is-specialty-coffee-sca-offers-a-fresh-definition/

[compact hound]

I only say its mid for bana standards. Their pour over/S.O espresso is hit or miss

They dial in the espresso way too weak for lattes too

[tiny mountain]

We need the cold/hot coffee in the same cup

Should be ezpz

I feel a little out of place, Reverent is a holy coffee site for me. I had my first true coffee revelation there

Offset is my favorite “I just need some good drip for the road” spot

[boreal solar]

We all have nostalgic favorites. Pretty sure the random roaster I fell in love with in Iowa City while in grad school 15 would disapoint most people here(maybe even myself)

Just enjoy it

[tiny mountain]

I’m also still a couples years into my “funky coffee honeymoon phase” people keep telling me I’ll grow out of 😂

Always chasing the funk

[boreal solar]

eh, I'm profiling some diego tropical that should be up soon if you want funk. Plan to launch it shortly after I get back from Copenhagen

[tiny mountain]

Ayo? 👀 say less

[tight gorge]

Mine was Four Barrel in SF. First time I ever had tomato soup as a coffee.

[tiny mountain]

It was B&W Hazy IPA for me. I didn’t know coffee could taste like all that

[tight gorge]

it doesnt though

but fr, I did come in late to the wild processing. Had some Diego at highlight in Altadena and was shook

[gusty pier]

i bought a kenyan from unity coffee roaster

"plum tomato" was on the label

[cold apex]

shop next to my house just bought a slayer... 😹

im excited

[mellow sonnet]

I was so excited to try a waymo to ondo

Ondo is north of the 101 :(

[cedar otter]

Dude you can prolly get off at vermont/101 and walk over

We should be right on the borderline

[mellow sonnet]

im going from pasadena to ondo anyways

i really want to try a waymo thou

[tight gorge]

Waymo is dope

Rides are super smooth

[boreal solar]

Which one?

[surreal pivot]

Waymo doesn’t scare yall at all?

[cold apex]

I&K, lol

[boreal solar]

I got my haircut down there on Sunday . I thought about stopping in but it was lined up outside again, lol

[mellow sonnet]

Nope I drive a tesla w FSD all the time

[eternal birch]

waymo drives great

been using it in SF/LA for a while now

I think with uber 1/5 drivers are completely dogshit and 1/10 make me fear for my life

waymo on the other hand is pretty consistent

[surreal pivot]

Fair point and totally agree. But I’m equally as concerned about driverless tech

[civic crest]

Anyway to fast track access?

I saw a guy run in front of a waymo today to cross the street. It stopped lol

[mellow sonnet]

Problem is waymo uses pre-mapped roads so they won't operate outside areas

[surreal pivot]

It pretty gross where they drew their southern most boarder

[tight gorge]

It’s available for everyone now

[civic crest]

What I never got that email

[dull adder]

Why is this a problem?

[mellow sonnet]

slow adoption

vs actual tracking ie fsd teslas will basically work on any road

[dull adder]

Heh

FSD is a bit of a pipe dream though

[mellow sonnet]

if its in an area u need, then it probably doesnt matter besides maybe temporary changes like road construction and what not

[dull adder]

I'm curious how slow the adoption is because of technical challenges vs the other challenges. Namely scaling and political challenges

[mellow sonnet]

their scaling is basically garbage considerin the premapping

i dont think political challenges there will be any tbh

idk thou i just want to sit in one and see what its like and compare it to my fsd

[dull adder]

There's absolutely political challenges. They need to work with each individual county to get approval to begin working there

[eternal birch]

fsd got better w/the last update, before that it was so bad

[dull adder]

Also Trump has threatened to ban all self driving. Which is probably just his rambly fried brain, but the cynic in me thinks it may be to let fElon get another decade to work on FSD

[eternal birch]

whatever elon cooking up with the no steering wheel no pedal taxi to be released in 2026 is a fever dream

[mellow sonnet]

i dont think elon will benefit when it comes to trump and robotaxi by the time the cars come out itll be 2028

[eternal birch]

2036 at this point

[dull adder]

The cars wont be self driving by 2028 anyway

[cedar otter]

When I got my tesla back in 2020

the autopilot worked so great

and I was noticing that it was getting dumber and dumber

[eternal birch]

it got worse w/ every update ngl

[dull adder]

Or at least not with Tesla actually insuring you and assuming full responsibility

[cedar otter]

I then realized that it worked so great in 2020 bc no one was on the road

LOL

I was delivering drinks to Irvine

from Koreatown

and I would get there under 45 mins

85 on autopilot while watching youtube videos on phone

[eternal birch]

you cant even get in the car without it beeping a billion times at you now

[mellow sonnet]

i think teslas pre-2020 are better than newer ones bc camera inside w eye tracking 💀

[eternal birch]

pre 2020 also does eyetracking

[cedar otter]

I know I'm so glad I got out before they started tracking

and docking your insurance

it also had the sensors

ultrasonic

[mellow sonnet]

mine def doesnt have eye tracking

i tension the steering wheel w my knee

[cedar otter]

Tesla bought my car back as a lemon

after driving 60000 miles in 3 years

and they pretty much gave back every dime I paid

and with that money (plus other) Ondo was born

thanks Elon

[eternal birch]

oh maybe not eyetracking, I only drive a 2019 tesla when I go to SF

used to be able to leave autopilot on w/ no worries

[cedar otter]

yeah

[eternal birch]

now it just kicks you out and has you check every 2 minutes

[cedar otter]

now it just warns u and turns it off right

[eternal birch]

yeah

[cedar otter]

LOL

so dumb

[eternal birch]

turns off for a week if you get 7 warnings

[cedar otter]

damn

[mellow sonnet]

💀

[cedar otter]

it's like the wrong passcode on iphone thing

[eternal birch]

sometimes you get warned and kicked out even while paying attention

[mellow sonnet]

mine has no tracking so i just sit on my phone

[eternal birch]

actually braindead

[cedar otter]

my brother's friends did it dirty to my brother's phone a long time ago and it was locked for literally tens of thousands of hours

[mellow sonnet]

tension steering wheel w my knee, and then drive my 1.5hr commute

[cedar otter]

nice

[eternal birch]

1.5 💀

[cedar otter]

soon to be like

15

min

[mellow sonnet]

yeah

15min

[cedar otter]

when u moving

[mellow sonnet]

so excited

end of month

[cedar otter]

hypeee

[mellow sonnet]

i have no washer and dryer thou

[cedar otter]

we can go on coffee crawl on ur days off

[eternal birch]

I just resigned my lease, 0% increase yippee

[mellow sonnet]

so even if i get the keys migh take me a week before i move in

[cedar otter]

oh

[mellow sonnet]

but either way i have an excuse to go to ondo now

mandarin is my go-to for beans but soon itll be ondo or mandarin

and kumquat

im so excited to be out of this barren wasteland of potheads

[eternal birch]

LB?

[mellow sonnet]

IE

[eternal birch]

oof

dont even have the nice weather

[mellow sonnet]

did a walkthrough of my new place when it was super windy

new place had almost no wind

excited

[cedar otter]

hey hey we got ppl from IE here lmao

[mellow sonnet]

i grew up IE

im allowed to shit on it

[cedar otter]

valid

[mellow sonnet]

i wouldntve ever noticed except i was in OC for HS and uni and now that im back in IE its very noticable

doesnt help my hobby of coffee and climbing is very hippie coded

[eternal birch]

what good coffee shops are in IE?

[cedar otter]

none

like

Klatch is big in IE

but it's so bad everytime I go

[eternal birch]

there's not even much in 626 except pasadena

[cedar otter]

yeah

I've taken a look at a few places

[mellow sonnet]

good thing i work in pasadena 🤡

[cedar otter]

I think Alhambra is the only valid town

but the rent is too high for what it is

I actually came across the space that used to be Tokyo Fried Chicken in MP

the rent is very nice

but it's a dead town

[boreal solar]

Slowbloom in Redlands

[cedar otter]

oh yes

slowbloom

and tulip house if u can find them

[mellow sonnet]

oh i need to pack all my coffee equipment this week

💀

[cedar otter]

yikes

I need home grinder for filter

my old Virtuoso that my mom uses is busted

[eternal birch]

ty, will see if I can depending on what I do for gf birthday

[dull adder]

It's hilarious to me that they keep going harder on the cameras and I don't think it's really working.
Like they install the standard Gentex rear view mirror every manufacturer uses and then disable the autodimming to use their camera based system.

[cedar otter]

lol wut

[dull adder]

I can't recall where I read they used Gentex though, but I suspect they have a patent on the implementation

[mellow sonnet]

mine has lidar 🙏

[dull adder]

Rain sensing I believe is also camera based on Tesla

[mellow sonnet]

although comparing it to my dad's CT, its about comparable? i havent really used the CT a lot thou

[cedar otter]

ur dad has a CT?!

+500 cool factor

[mellow sonnet]

he went from model X 2016 to model X 2020 to CT

[cedar otter]

damn

[eternal birch]

whats the point of a CT

[cedar otter]

he's a successful asian dad

[mellow sonnet]

and i go the X 2020

hes always liked pickup trucks which i feel is pretty common for immigrants for some reason

[eternal birch]

I have connections to the guys who did the CT espresso setup gimmick at the farmers market

[dull adder]

15 minute commute is huge, I'm jelly

[eternal birch]

they have their own store now

[cedar otter]

I think 2019-2020 are the best tesla years

[cedar otter]

oh you mean moonwake?

[eternal birch]

yeah

[cedar otter]

I'm friends with them

went to their soft opening of the cafe lol

[mellow sonnet]

the 2016 had the worst panel gaps in the world, got sent in to fix, and cameback w even worse, came back a second time and was slightly better

19-20 has lidar and good build quality

[cedar otter]

yeah

also the new computers

right

HW3

[eternal birch]

yet to go, only been going to SF and havent been driving down peninsula

[mellow sonnet]

yeah

[boreal solar]

Where in the IE are you looking in particular? I live in Rancho Cucamonga and may have some suggestions based on which part you’re in. For instance Iron and Kin is worth a visit if you live in Claremont etc

[dull adder]

People got pissed at this because they blindly hate everything fElon. Which after this election interference and SEC investigations, I get more.
But cyber truck kinda makes sense for the power delivery

[cedar otter]

it's the only car w/ 240v

so far

[mellow sonnet]

my dad doenst use social media but likes elon he makes interesting things and is pretty innovative and worth liking as long as u avoid his socials

[boreal solar]

Sure but a generator from harbor freight might be more reliable than a cyber truck given it’s well…a cyber truck.

[eternal birch]

nothings finalized since we've been planning for a different trip but we were thinking about going to oak glen for a daytrip

its just a daytrip so just one shop rec is good enough

not in IE very often

[mellow sonnet]

theres nothing in IE anyways 😢

[eternal birch]

its still a marketing gimmick tbh but they opened up a shop so good to say it worked

[eternal birch]

the owners or the guy who set it up?

[cedar otter]

who's the guy

[eternal birch]

guy who made xbloom

[dull adder]

Where were they using lidar?

[cedar otter]

oh BQ

im friends with the actual owners

[cedar otter]

I think he might mean ultrasonic sensors

[mellow sonnet]

oops ya

the ultrasonics

[eternal birch]

every EV company doing smthn stupid so hard to fault tesla for sticking with cameras

rivian wants everything voice controlled

and lucid is still doing qc checks that take forever

[dull adder]

Did they use ultrasonic for parking assist?

[mellow sonnet]

yes

they switched from giving u actual distance to the wall to switching to just a general estimate w no number

[cedar otter]

and checking the distance between you and the surrounding during AP

that + camera

[cedar otter]

I think you got some facts wrong but I don't wanna argue with a stranger on the internet lol

[eternal birch]

I might be, would like to hear what you have to say

[cedar otter]

just because they come from tech background and got a cybertruck, they aren't some rich tech bros rolling in their cash lol

and the CT as a marketing gimmick didn't really help launching their brick and mortar since the CT at farmer's market was decided almost at the same time when they got the lease for the current space

so it's not like they used CT to get investors or whatever to open a brick and mortar

[surreal pivot]

The CT is how I found out about them in the first place . The CT was def a gimmick regardless

[cedar otter]

sure. tbh I would have done the same if I had a little extra cash. In fact, I mentioned this idea on this server a few years ago as soon as I found out that CT would have a 240V outlet in the back

I still wanna get a cybertruck and do YOLO coffee services at random parts of LA

a guerilla warfare

[eternal birch]

didnt know they secured the lease beforehand but it was good marketing to drive people toward the brick and mortar

people have opened coffee carts without a CT lol

[cedar otter]

oh for sure. I still have my coffee cart too

but with a brick and mortar now, it would definitely be a marketing ploy for me

or like a catering event

outdoor wedding boom

[weary chasm]

haha

[drowsy knot]

Missed the whole FSD conversation last night. Never used it in my 2018 X with HW2.5 but did use enhanced auto-pilot all the time and it def improved over the years. The replacement Y that I got after my X was totaled in September has HW4 and they keep “unlocking” FSD to try to get me to buy it. I tried it once last week and my car immediately crossed the double yellow lines and pulled into the oncoming left turn lane 🤦‍♂️. I love the smoothness of what is basically traffic assisted cruise control (it has gotten a LOT better) and the heatmaps for tight spaces are really great but every time I’ve tried to let the car do it’s thing without intervention it drives like my 90 year old granny just before we took away the keys… I will say that my first supercharger experience was a huge surprise. My 2018 X took a long time to charge but this Y added 80 miles in 5 minutes and was finished before I got back from the bathroom 😂

[cedar otter]

I have a love/hate thing for Tesla and after driving Hyundai Ioniq 5, I def miss all the cool featuers and supercharging

Ioniq5 definitely has better ride quality and my lower back no longer hurts as much

[drowsy knot]

It was such a tough call and I love the styling of the ioniq5! The lumbar support in the Tesla works really well for my back but that’s such a personal thing. The main factors for me were supercharging network and made in CA so local jobs + local taxes

[young spindle]

Funny talk going on in here

[drowsy knot]

I hate the landscape screen though. Just hate it. The vertical, inset screen on the 2018 X was so much better but the tech was not nearly as good

@compact hound I’ve been paying attention to sweetness in that mejorado since I have it at 3 roast levels right now. Imo the lack of sweetness is a bigger issue to me than a little brown in the aftertaste. The orange & lime come through at all three levels. Appreciate the feedback - gotta figure that sweetness out next!

[crude citrus]

You could always buy one of those large portable battery stations with 240V. My friend has one and runs his welder off it.

[young spindle]

Link pls

[drowsy knot]

I run my coffee cart on one and charge it up on solar - good for 4-5 hours of service

https://us.ecoflow.com/products/delta-pro-portable-power-station

[crude citrus]

https://slickdeals.net/f/17864874-refurbished-anker-solix-f3800-portable-3840wh-power-station-2055-free-shipping?src=frontpage_recombee&attrsrc=Frontpage%3AType%3APersonalized|Personalization%3AInterspersed%3ATrue&prop=rcmid-99cc163d2b192b05d99143b224e1c354

“Portable”

[cedar otter]

Uhhhh refurbd battery

[crude citrus]

9/10 they’re brand new units

[young spindle]

3600W max 😔

[crude citrus]

How much do you need?

[young spindle]

https://www.moonwakecoffeeroasters.com/blog/cybertruck-and-coffeebut-why-though

This much

[crude citrus]

Ok that’s wild. I didn’t know the CT has a 40A plug

[young spindle]

It was a really cool Collab between MW, voltage, and BQ

[cedar otter]

And me

I inception’d the idea to mabel

Jk

[crude citrus]

I just read MWs latest blog post and didn’t realize they got so much hate for the CT. Crazy

[young spindle]

Appreciate that you read thru the blogs 🥹

[compact hound]

I actually only detected brown in the Ayla! I didn’t mind that the mejo lacked sweetness tbh since it made up for it with the loud citrus acidity

[cedar otter]

oh yeah it was wild

[mellow sonnet]

my dad had the exact opposite opinion 👀 horizontal better than vertical

imo i like the look of vertical more, but in terms of actual usage landscape is def more usable

[cedar otter]

horizontal better for driving maybe

less looking down

[mellow sonnet]

yeah

[cedar otter]

but according to Elon we won't have to look at the road ever again in the near future

just big screens to catch up on Netflix

[mellow sonnet]

27" screen for movies soon

[cedar otter]

I kinda want that flagship BMW EV

that has that weird screen for the back seat

[mellow sonnet]

i think the bmw ix is insanely clean

[cedar otter]

specifically designed for rich Asian chairmen

[mellow sonnet]

[cedar otter]

who have chauffers

[mellow sonnet]

just get rolls royce

[cedar otter]

oh they aren't that rich maybe

LOL

also I know a few rich ppl who don't touch super luxurious cars because they can be targeted

I knew someone who soup'd up like toyota avalon

lol

[mellow sonnet]

one of my pharmacists drives a toyota avalon

his wife owns some PT company and theyre multimillionaires

[cedar otter]

yeah

I see that a lot

30-40k cars

[mellow sonnet]

if i was multimillionaire i would buy a s660

theyre cheap but im scared of maintence costs

[cedar otter]

didn't jeff bezos drive around a corolla or camry for years after he became a billionaire

[eternal birch]

this is 90% of the bay area

and then a couple folks who have porsches that dont come out of the garage

[crude citrus]

I think in the early days of Amazon. Then he got a divorce and now has a wild car collection

[boreal solar]

Philos arrives next week(I’ll be out of town but it’ll be waiting) We can finally do a zerno comparison next meetup.

[drowsy knot]

duh, that’s right! I have a slightly more developed version of the mejo that does have a little brown but my wife likes that 🙂 I’m considering making some “partner packs” for christmas this year with a couple lights and one med light that can take milk since many have a partner that likes things a little more developed

[boreal solar]

Buying a Porsche for him is probably like us buying a toy car at dollar tree though.

[drowsy knot]

maybe in isolation but the vertical screen mounted below the dash kept the sightline out the front cleaner and I drive with North always up for nav so more of the drive is visible on the screen. For immediate turns and all useful “while driving” data the X had a smaller display behind the wheel so much less side-glancing while driving. And also buttons/toggles for a lot of things that now require side glancing and menu diving… so much of it is personal pref though and I’ll learn this new system eventually!

[drowsy knot]

I knew I had leveled up when I stopped looking at every receipt when I made a purchase at the grocery store, etc. Imagine being able to ignore the receipt for, like, an island

[vivid violet]

when people ask me what it's like, i enjoy describing it as a "drunk toddler".

I'm surprised HW4 was so bad at FSD ! which FSD version was that ?

[drowsy knot]

12.5.4.2 - every time I’ve ever tried FSD (going back to early 2018) I’ve always thought “oh hell no” 😂

[turbid herald]

Drank the last of the coffee you gave us @drowsy knot - it was great, thanks again!

[dull adder]

I guess it's time for me to open that. Maybe tomorrow

[drowsy knot]

Glad to hear it, thanks!

[drowsy knot]

Full disclosure I have not opened my bag from that set yet either

[vivid violet]

i was also waiting till Nov 20th, thought that was the "right" time 🙂

(I have a sticky note to myself)

[vivid violet]

very interesting. on my older 2018 car that specific version works okay. i use it all the time on local roads. It has even navigated some situations smoother than i could have.

(granted, it also screws up, so it's always good to be paying attn)

[drowsy knot]

I had a 2018 as well and they still had ultrasonic sensors. Now it’s 100% camera based. TBF I have not extensively tested it but it’s just not that appealing to me. I liked the enhanced autopilot that they used to offer but no longer an option

[drowsy knot]

I think that should be about 6 weeks which is when I was planning on opening it as well

[tight gorge]

Ondo bussin rn

[cedar otter]

Oh snap thanks for coming

We actually hit a record today

[tight gorge]

Funny how running a business leads to crazy mood swings. I recall you said you had angst over lower sales volume earlier this week to now hitting a pr.

[cedar otter]

yeah lol

it be like that I guess

[tight gorge]

Place was packed and very lively, great atmosphere

[cedar otter]

from record lows to record highs

[cedar otter]

thank you! my baristas were like "bryan get outta here we're good"

I actually saw your name on the ticket that bought the savage but didn't wanna assume anything LOL

I was like "oh i wonder if this is @tight gorge "

[tight gorge]

It’s a bit of a trek from here but was at Saffys for lunch so had to stop by. The savage was a nice bonus, hopefully as good as the HS.

[cedar otter]

thanks! I shoulda kept the HS iridescence but it sold out way too quickly last time. I thankfully bought 2x 8oz bags that I set aside for the slow bar later

I've been panic buying geshas and COEs I come across bc people LOVE ordering expensive coffees lol

I've got a few orders of "Letty Bermudez" as iced americanos and iced cappuccinos

[tight gorge]

lol. Iced American letty sounds tasty tbh

[cedar otter]

yeah it is really good. it's also very good as a tonic LOL

my baristas go wild

[tight gorge]

the dude working today is coo, seems about it

[cedar otter]

oh yeah Liam. his hospitality is top notch

sometimes he gets carried away and talks a lil too much yeah very nice dude

[tight gorge]

lol. As I was picking up my order he said thanks for coming while looking at me in the eyes. Felt like he knew me

[cedar otter]

I think he would be a better barista if he talked 20% less LOL

👀

[tight gorge]

Idk I like his vibe and would make me want to come back more

[cedar otter]

aw thanks

he's another person in my team who's very eager to learn about coffee

so he's been asking a lot of questions and brewing a lot of random coffees haha

@tight gorge do you remember how much a ham/cheese croix or almond croix cost at those fancier bakeries recently?

like petit grain or helms

[tight gorge]

Not sure, but id bet both were 6-6.50

[cedar otter]

damn

is $6.75 pushing it?

I have a new vendor coming

his stuff is so good

but also more expensive than our current vendor haha

[tight gorge]

Who is this mystery croissant dealer?

[cedar otter]

out of thin air

[tight gorge]

As long as it still has a 6 in front I think it’s fine

[cedar otter]

haha

he uses wholegrain wheat

it's so good

I've also toured his facility

[tight gorge]

My dogs IG follows him LOL

[cedar otter]

LOL

[tight gorge]

which means my wife is already on it

or we already had it and I forgot

Glad you changed since Clark Street is aight, I like their bread though

[cedar otter]

clark is p good but

they almost always come late

like more than half the times

before I was the one solo opening so it didn't bother me so much (although it sucks)

but now I have my employees open so now they complain

and I potentially lose on sales and labor

[surreal pivot]

It was packed on Thursday too. Almost had to Ron Artest elbow this woman standing in front of the retail bag shelf 😂

[cedar otter]

I think you guys only come at times when it gets packed

LOL

when I came back from the store today

3 guys were all holding a drink in their hands, stood in a circle and chatted

like 3 baristas

[tiny mountain]

Save one of them Iridescence bags for me to order on Monday 👀😂

I have to ship hydrangea up here, no retailers in WA

[cedar otter]

so someone just took the last bag, but I have 2 more coming

[tiny mountain]

Damn - sounds good haha

After tomorrow I will buy a bag for sure

[gusty pier]

Hey yall! First time in oc, anywhere to find excellent light roast?

[tight gorge]

play coffee your best bet

OC adjacent

[gusty pier]

📈

[civic crest]

For real? First time? 🤔

[weary chasm]

What about that egg Vietnamese coffee?

[dull adder]

Hopper & Burr. Maybe. Idk if it's necessarily "excellent light roast" but I enjoyed it

Also OC is large.. that place could be 30 minutes from where you are

[cedar otter]

Stereoscope?

[vivid violet]

i thought it was a shame they got rid of ultrasonics, still not there yet with camera-only.

agree with you that enhanced autopilot was so nice, i usually used the "single pull" feature to enable TACC for the freeway. kinda miss that, as most of the time i just want to cruise in my lane 🙂

[vivid violet]

so glad to hear you had a record-breaking day, Bryan 🙏

what you have built is amazing, thank you for bringing us such an interesting variety of teas and coffees.

[cedar otter]

thank you so much!!

who likes Subtext Coffee in here? We will be hosting them on Saturday, December 7th. The owner will be here to give a small presentation about Ethiopia coffee and what he learned when he visited this year, followed by a cupping session of 15 different ethiopia coffee that they sourced this year

This will be a paid event, but since the space is extremely limited, I wanted to give headsup to people here!

[weary chasm]

Ohhh

I might be able to go

What time do you think you're going to host

[cedar otter]

I'll post the link here for Evenbrite when it's live

I think it will be 9am and 1pm

[weary chasm]

Two seasons cool

[cedar otter]

yeah

[blazing gust]

dang if only there were evening ones 😢

[cedar otter]

you work on Saturdays?

[dull adder]

I'd be interested!!

[mellow sonnet]

I am working at 2:30 that day 💀 do I be a degen and go to the event in scrubs and then book it to work after

https://www.eventbrite.com/e/taste-of-ethiopia-with-subtext-coffee-roasters-tickets-1087176065879

[weary chasm]

from 9 to 1?

[mellow sonnet]

900-1300 and then work 1430-2300

[weary chasm]

oh.

you can just do first session

at 9am

plenty of time

i doubt tasting lasts 5 hours...

[mellow sonnet]

yeah but work is pasadena

and weekend traffic

zzzzzzz ill go next time when im more settled down from moving

[weary chasm]

if you think about it, its dec 9

which is a 3 weeks?

but yeah.

oh well.

[cedar otter]

YO WAIT

[cedar otter]

it's 9-11 and 1-3

two sessions

hold on lol I'm supposed to wait for approval from Subtext

don't buy the tix just yet

[mellow sonnet]

ill buy a ticket last min if i can go

im moving in 1.5wk

[cedar otter]

damn

remember how much you liked that Subtext coffee from the first cupping @mellow sonnet

you better come

[mellow sonnet]

😭

[eternal birch]

shouldve brought my laptop and just edited the raws

[cedar otter]

yoooo

[eternal birch]

its a great space, very homey

[cedar otter]

thanks for coming!

[weary chasm]

ohh. i was gonna buy it.

i guess i'll wait for confirmation.

[compact hound]

No slow bar items

[weary chasm]

Gotta be safe

Go with popular picks

[eternal birch]

had to run errands + didn't have my laptop to get work done, I'll probably be back to try slow bar and grab some beans

gonna be churning out aeropress shots at camp

[eternal birch]

honorary pelican stick

[compact hound]

Damn i need to get that sticker

[onyx forge]

Tell me a list of shops to bug

[tiny mountain]

Omg hi big fan - unfortunately I live in the middle of nowhere Central WA so there’s no close stores that would carry your beans

It’s all coal and/or roasters with their own coal

Nothing like an Ondo or Reverent here

[dull adder]

His name says coal enjoyer, he might fit well with those shops

[cedar otter]

just bc he enjoys coal doesn't mean he roasts coals

[dull adder]

That's too bad

[cedar otter]

I cannot tolerate coals anymore

well it's fine if someone serves me something

[dull adder]

It's like a well done steak. Only a true pro can perfectly cook a well done steak

[cedar otter]

I've been trying to dial like 4-5 counter culture's single origins on bar

in the past 3 months or so

I can't

well

it doesn't taste good in my setup

hashtag skill issues

[dull adder]

Yeah I feel like I'm worse at brewing coffee than ever before

I struggled with a bag of Apollo at the beginning of the year, it tasted so roasty

[cedar otter]

I think I see this weird phenomenon where

their blends are getting roastier

and their SOs are getting lighter YET somehow still tastes of roast in the backend

[boreal solar]

From experience it tastes like their charge temp is too high.

That and it feels almost like they’re going into FC too fast

[cedar otter]

Interesting. I wonder if they are trying to roast quicker with higher charge temp and fast FC bc they got all these grocery store orders now

Squeezing in more batches per day

[cedar otter]

@mellow sonnet the event is live!

[blazing gust]

Oh I thought it was Fridays

Damn I have plans in San Diego that Saturday

[blazing gust]

How u getting rid of that roast flavor

[cedar otter]

Straight into trash bag

Or drip 😂

[eternal birch]

that free drip coffee w/ every bag purchase

if offered I usually just take it and make tiramisu

[blazing gust]

dude

free drip coffee?

cheapos

im asking for a free pourover with my bag purchase

[vivid violet]

PORTAL kickstarter went live this morning @ 10am PT:
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/belkacoffee/portal-real-time-coffee-brew-profiler?ref=thanks-copy

there's some talk in #1056000584773283970 of them working together, if you're on deck for a Meticulous machine.

[tight gorge]

PTSD from Met delays are stopping me from backing this. Sept can easily become 2026

[cedar otter]

I guess the difference is that belka is an already existing company in Korea and they have created products before

[gusty pier]

Me, jumping from argos delays straight into Met delays

[weary chasm]

But you just bought machines that are on the market right? Lol

[gusty pier]

the other one is on preorder also lol

[weary chasm]

Excited for this decaf thing

https://youtu.be/2t7Ba8Vr9HY

[raven path]

Moongoat is one of the participating roasters!

[ornate ingot]

Holy shit. Someone just won brewers cup regionals with my water

https://www.instagram.com/p/DCmGzguOdm2/?img_index=2&igsh=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==

[tight gorge]

hell yeah!

[tight gorge]

When you make it big time (in due time), you should offer a community well where we can bring our own bucket to refill water

[cedar otter]

yooooooo

[cedar otter]

it can be those old school water dispenser machine in front of ondo

[ocean obsidian]

Coffee Setup for azeotropes | sworks drip + kpro

Machine

Uniterra Nomad, Decent DE1XL, Flair Signature

Grinder

Ditting 807 Lab Sweet, 1Zpresso Jx Pro, 1Zpresso K Pro, 1Zpresso Q2 Heptagonal, 1Zpresso KS

Favorite Beans

Luna Bermudez from Manhattan Coffee Roasters

Pronouns

He/Him

Location

Southern California

sprobot

[weary chasm]

Lol

[upbeat epoch]

Sorry, I apparently forwarded a post by mistake.

[tight gorge]

anybody snag a Thanksgiving Day Endorffeine rezy?

[weary chasm]

Get a uniterra nomad!

[upbeat epoch]

That does look cute

[dull adder]

Was the dark roast you brought from MoonGoat?

I waited and S&W sold out 😭

[raven path]

Well for the decaf project there’s only one option but of their other coffees I like their Darkside and their franco-Italian roast

[weary chasm]

can message nick "WE ARE NOT SOLD OUT! This is such a huge event, we must have an inventory safety cushion in place until we physically fill thousands of bags and see where we wind up. Remaining inventory will be added and available for purchase after the first round goes out during the first few days of December."

so i guess this is a maybe

lol. 700 sets though.

6*60 = 360

700*360 grams = 252,000 g

252 kg

[boreal solar]

Congrats man. Hopefully it builds you some hype. I always appreciate the extra notes brought out by empirical water.

[dark fjord]

Big congrats! You’re going to nationals?! Always appreciate you dropping knowledge on pour over Reddit 🙂

[ornate ingot]

I was going to say probably not but I looked it up and:

The US Brewers Cup Competition National Championship will be held March 15 - 17, 2024! The competition to choose 2024's National Brewers Cup Champion is hosted at Klatch Coffee, 8767 Onyx Ave., Rancho Cucamonga, CA.

I could totally be there

Long way away. That's a whole season. Anyone know why these comps are stretched out so long? Wimbledon is 2 weeks, lol

Oh wait, that's 2024 lol

RIP

Indonesia customs doesn't even allow my water. I'm sure Marc will find a way to bring it with him though

[weary chasm]

You can't check it in baggage?

[eternal birch]

sebastian ramirez

probably last time I'm here for a while, I dont have a need to be in ktown/silverlake ish often

[dull adder]

Same. But I go there anyway lol

[dull adder]

MoonGoat and Methodical sold out too.
I ended up buying from Driftaway ¯_(ツ)_/¯
I'm really hoping I can pick up one from S&W restock

[dull adder]

Ondo cupping tomorrow 😁😁

And I bought a ticket to the Subtext thing too!

[raven path]

@drowsy knot ready to brew! I don’t think I can do it as spro on a bambino though it looks real light and you can’t control temp

But maybe worth a try?

[vivid violet]

I was juuuust about to brew mine too, sticky note with 11/20 was jumping out at me 🙂

[weary chasm]

Just turbo it

[drowsy knot]

Haven’t tried as spro would probably rest longer for that but not an expert. Tried as pourover yesterday and decided to wait another week before trying again. It’s lighter than my own comfort zone 😂

[raven path]

How I do dis

[compact hound]

When playing with straight 9 bar shot like your bambino I just go for a 1:3.25-3.5 in 20s

[drowsy knot]

So far I’ve been preferring the 12% moisture loss to the 10% moisture loss but it may just be skill issue

[raven path]

Oh wow, this was really good on first try in spro, @drowsy knot ! I did a 1:3 with the same fine grind I use for decaf

It’s a little light on texture so I might up the dose by a gram but it was really enjoyable

I love getting super close to the dial on first try lol

Oh also I used the dual wall stock basket to pull two blank shots and build up the heat/pressure in the machine before pulling this

It did come out quite watery but it tastes pretty good lol

But it’s not super sour like I was expecting

[drowsy knot]

you’re giving me hope!

[raven path]

I just put it in a latte and it just tastes like milk 😂

[vivid violet]

if you are interested in Meticulous, looks like the "Meticulous Home" thread is filling up ( per shotwell [1] ), and it's now spun out to its own channel: #meticulous-home

[1] #1056000584773283970 message

[vivid violet]

just had some of mine, mixed with some decaf because i can't take the full amount of caffeine 😅

it was really unique, fruity and bright. I'll have to pay attn to the flavor notes tomorrow.

What are we expecting from this (when brewed as espresso) ?

[eternal birch]

the hydrangea salma bermudez is great, gf doesnt even recognize it as coffee

[drowsy knot]

I have no expectations 😂

[dull adder]

I cupped this at Ondo. I really struggled to get past the funk.
Once it was nearing cold, the funk really subsided and I enjoyed it more but I still preferred other coffees on the table

[eternal birch]

I had the opposite experience, at the start when it was hot I was getting those fruity and citrusy notes but then after I ran some errands and it got cold I dont remember what I quite tasted but I poured the rest down the sink because I couldn't palate it

I haven't seasoned or dialed in my grinder quite yet though so I'll have to get back, I made it on a brand new k-ultra

[compact hound]

@drowsy knot brewed the ecuador again and I feel like the cup has become hollow

Lost the juicy citrus acidity completely

Mainly pick up oolong tea and a faint melon sweetness

Its been 15 days since I previously brewed it

[ornate ingot]

I am so blessed to have been born in the biggest specialty coffee hotspot in the world

[drowsy knot]

Thanks for that comparison. I am enjoying the just slightly more developed version quite a bit and I think it might be holding up better as well. I think I’ll play around with this one on the decent tomorrow before rethinking the bean

[vivid violet]

after i pulled the shot, mixed with milk, and then let it sit for a bit while i was sipping, the flavor became more mellow and enjoyable.

love when the taste changes over time as the drink cools / sits (very interesting. and i'm not sure what contributes to it)

[boreal solar]

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/596751782773342/?mibextid=HHaHfI could be a good buy for someone looking for a project out here.

[tight gorge]

Preach

[cedar otter]

hmmm

went to go take a look at potential shop #2 space

the only downside is that there's no easy parking nearby

for customers

it's got a hooded kitchen so we can def do more food and less focus on coffee

[boreal solar]

Could bake with the new shop and move the pastries to the og location as well.

[cedar otter]

not enough space for baking operation

probably more for like bfast sando, burrito, etc

[boreal solar]

Where abouts are you looking?

[cedar otter]

pasadena

ironically nearby another city college hah

[boreal solar]

Hmmm that’s a lot closer to me. Lol

I approve

[cedar otter]

haha

take over cities on 210

[boreal solar]

Just gradually expand east while taking the klatch market

[cedar otter]

yup haha

although I don't think I can grow past #4 or something

at that point I need to have a manager and would just be making less money

so it's either 3-4 shops or 10+ shops

that 5-9 scale is dangerous and that's where everyone either stops growing or dies trying

my old work was like that. could not get past 10-11

always had to close a couple, open a couple, close a couple, etc

[boreal solar]

I’ve been thinking of testing some popups out here while going full throttle specialty. The cafes I work with are in IE mode.

[surreal pivot]

I refuse to got to Loquat because there’s no parking. Complete non starter for some.

(Not the mention the coffee is mid) 😂

[cedar otter]

yeah. I mean I think this particular space will be more breakfast/brunch/lunch spot with good coffee rather than a coffee shop

[surreal pivot]

Ah ok

[compact hound]

Sala vibes

[cedar otter]

yes except I think it's smaller than Ondo

so more take-out based

like literally 3-4 tables and a bar seating against the wall

[eternal birch]

same name or different name?

[eternal birch]

kumquat HLP super mid but kumquat DTLA super good

ultimately depends on barista though, but the DTLA ones have been better for me

[cedar otter]

prolly different name also

[eternal birch]

gotta brush up on korean trends for the coffee food accompaniment

신사동 style

[compact hound]

I have to agree

But i’ve only been to the HLP one once

I also like the staff at the dtla one more too

[eternal birch]

have been thrice, DTLA one about ~6 times

[compact hound]

Theyre all coo

[ornate ingot]

Got myself a timeslot to demo water for Kumquat DTLA this Friday. And then for Nicely at Hooked Venice right after that

[eternal birch]

expecting to drink even better coffee from them now

[surreal pivot]

Yeah that location stinks, but the parking is better.

How’s the parking for DTLA? 😂

[eternal birch]

i walk there so cant say LOL

there is street parking in front and idk if people can use the office building parking for kumquat

[cedar otter]

Free 45 min valet with validation

[boreal solar]

Is it at least near a garage?

Also I appreciated the parking by Ondo. That said I’m pretty accustomed to parking five or ten minute walks from restaurants/cafes

As long as we’re not talking circling Manhattan beach for forty minutes waiting for someone to leave I’m good 😅

[compact hound]

Seriously set a timer if you do go @surreal pivot its like $40 if you go over that IIRC

[weary chasm]

Did you find out by experience

[compact hound]

Thankfully no

[cedar otter]

Yeah I paid like $28?

😂 stayed 1 hr and a change

[eternal birch]

anyone have recs local or online for med roast chocolately beans

[cedar otter]

Ondo beans? 😂 jk

I really like counter culture’s Hologram and Gradient

You can find them at whole foods or target

[eternal birch]

oo thank you

I liked a seasonal one from canyon coffee and after the season ended I've been drinking beachwood on subscription

but I dont like the taste as much

[cedar otter]

Aha

Coming soon

I think I can hone in the roast profile by next week

Turns out more expensive green is easier to work with

[eternal birch]

p2w

[cedar otter]

Literally

[weary chasm]

Trader Joe breakfast blend

[cedar otter]

Ppl werent joking about learning to roast on Panama geshas

[eternal birch]

do they put roast dates on it

[cedar otter]

Also forces you to be real gud bc it’s 💸

[weary chasm]

No

Yolo

[eternal birch]

dont think I've seen a single TJ bag with roast date

[cedar otter]

Do u even wanna know the RD

[eternal birch]

probably 2020 covid stock 💀

[cedar otter]

You can probably see the expiration date

And back track 1 year or something

[weary chasm]

Yeah. Probably

That's how I assume

It makes some nice espresso

Well

I guess nice is your definition

It makes nice espresso for me.

This is tj breakfast blend

I actually don't like anything else at trader Joe

[eternal birch]

I'll try it out sometime, going to go with counter culture first

hardly go to TJs 😦

[weary chasm]

Wake up blend is "okay"

And their medium roast $5/400 g is ok for cold brew

Breakfast blend is $9/340g

[eternal birch]

idk if I'll bring beans back from korea but I'll probably bring some from guangzhou

[cedar otter]

Cinnamon co-ferment on a budget

[eternal birch]

actually might be ok

[weary chasm]

Lol

Preground so you don't destroy your grinder.

[cedar otter]

They actually put actual cinnamon in so actually not ok

[eternal birch]

oh LOL

[cedar otter]

You gonna have to deep clean all your brewing gears