Seattle Meetup

[coarse imp]

I can send you guys a list

Please use a co-ferment one

[clear iron]

you will wish i used a coferment

[coarse imp]

Dang, robusta?

[half badger]

Ah sweet, I know both of them. Haven't tried either of them yet though!

Is it the Indian coffee you brought in?

[clear iron]

we have a winner lmao

the bq special

[manic portal]

added carafes, i feel like they're a hot commodity

[slim shale]

ah yes good idea

[manic portal]

anybody want to taste through the s&w decaf set, or is that too much (probably mid green) coffee in a row?

[slim shale]

i also got the set so i’m good hahah

[slim shale]

if people are interested in decaf though i do have some hydrangea decaf

[fickle nexus]

I’ve never had decaf

[clear iron]

gear list for this meetup is looking pretty exciting

[manic portal]

guys, we have a problem

i'm officially throwing up the 🫖 signal

we require kettles

[slim shale]

just bumping the sheet link

[manic portal]

i'll try and bring mine if nobody else can but it's a hard object to move by hand

[slim shale]

same

[exotic horizon]

oh shit i totally forgot it was tomorrow

i thought it was next sunday

[long finch]

I was just checking the list. Looks like there’s nothing needed? I’ll try to bring snacks. We good for water?

[manic portal]

i'm now a seattle tap truther

• hypercast is bringing some fancy stuff

i think we're good!

[coarse imp]

Seattle tap goated(I’m lazy

When are we having next meetup, will have ~6 Chinese roasted coffees to share

[half badger]

Just as a heads up, I'll probably be there closer to 1

[modern trellis]

will there be people there around 11? i’ve got a lot to do today but would love to meet folks and try some coffees. i can bring an interesting Yunanese coffee

[manic portal]

historically we start closer to 11:30 but would love to see you there!

[fickle nexus]

I’m setting up now

[long finch]

I’m on my way from Bellevue. Does anyone have a sharpie? I have some ziplocks for samples.

[fickle nexus]

Mine just died:(

[long finch]

I’m outside but I don’t remember the door code

[jovial wharf]

I've got a couple of sharpies i can bring

[clear iron]

Can anyone let me and Orm inside? We’re struggling with the call thing lol

Nvm

[half badger]

Omw now. Be there in 15 🙂

[slim shale]

lol what’s the button combo here

basically the door isn’t working haha

can i be retrieved please haha

[distant aurora]

Lyft says I should arrive at 1. Sorry about the delay, had to stop roasting last night to let my friend sleep, just finished last few coffees

[wheat remnant]

I am here!

[fickle nexus]

I think I’ve let everyone in who is here

[distant aurora]

Can someone let me in

Callbox not cooperating

[dawn shadow]

I'll have to make the next one

[clear iron]

I’ll make another batch of ice cream for @coarse imp

[jovial wharf]

You're now the ice cream man Space! And I'm not mad about it. That was so good

[clear iron]

Who could have predicted that coffee tastes good when combined with milk and sugar

[jovial wharf]

https://tenor.com/view/check-it-out-steve-brule-didnt-know-that-knowledge-oops-gif-8146101723122496695

I thought we had to drink it black...

Also, great meetup as always everyone! It was nice to meet the new folks and catch up with the regulars. Looking forward to the next one!

[fickle nexus]

I wound up with an extra spritzer! It has a mark on the cap if that sounds familiar to anyone

[slim shale]

dang it

that might be mine if it has an N. if it has a star it’s starskys

[fickle nexus]

It’s an N lol

[slim shale]

one of these i might not forgot something 😢

[ashen siren]

I know this is a long shot since you guys just had a meetup. But I’m going to be in Seattle tomorrow if anyone wants to meet for coffee

[coarse imp]

Use danker coffee next time

[clear iron]

I shouldn’t have left the September orange drop behind

[long finch]

It has arrived but as it is my birthday present it will need to wait 11 days.

[long finch]

I can’t remember… Do any of you good people have experience with the DF64 grinders? Contemplating upgrading my Eureka but not sure how much of an upgrade it would be. I know you can get SSP burrs for the DF, but I’d probably stick with the stock burrs to start.

[clear iron]

I have gen 1 with ssp hu, probably not relevant in 2024 though

[fickle nexus]

Someone brought one to the last meetup!

[long finch]

We’ll blame the caffeine intake on my memory 😂

I looked at the picture I took of the grinder table but I didn’t spot it.

[manic portal]

think it's on the right here. this might be a 64v?

pretty good infiltration of the herd of lagoms tbh

[long finch]

I think you’re right! I was expecting it to be black. If the owner sees this can they let me know how they like it?

[rancid dome]

https://m.facebook.com/marketplace/item/368423406334293/?ref=search

Buy this and throw some steelies in it. Pretty sure it has the forte grind chamber from pictures

Meaning you could have a great grinder for like 250. Can hyperalign with a vice clamp. They’re money

[modern trellis]

this one isn’t mine but i had a gen 2 for a while, tried a number of burr sets. do you have any specific questions?

[long finch]

Really trying to figure out how much of an improvement it would be with standard burrs over my Eureka Mignon that I’ve converted to single dose (my only other grinder is a 1zpresso K Ultra that I use for pour overs).

[modern trellis]

i’ve never had a mignon, but I had an Atom 60 with a bellows that was a lot harder to use than the df64.. definitely a lot better options with 64mms. the stock burrs on the df64 were fine, but not way better than the atom. the workflow was way better though, and with the potential to upgrade i’d say it’s a worthy move, at least for me, esp if you can sell the mignon for the same amount as the df costs!

[long finch]

Happy holidays to you all.

https://www.reddit.com/r/espresso/s/gwnRUJCDWV

I do have an ultrasonic cleaner I can bring to the next meetup if anyone wants to do this.

[icy zodiac]

I'm thinking of hosting a meetup on the east side (Sammamish) mid-Jan. Anyone interested? There's a freezer full of 40+ coffees, Strada X, Kafatek Monolith Max 2 to kick things off

[coarse imp]

I thought I have a big backlog

[icy zodiac]

@coarse imp help me get through it

lol

[coarse imp]

IDK how many of us can make it to the east side, I for sure need a ride

[native jackal]

I'm in south Renton, so it's a bit easier for me to get there than to Seattle. Just depend on whether I'll be available.

[slim shale]

i could probably give some seattle people a ride

[half badger]

I don't live in the eastside, but I'd be down for a meet up and can drive some people if anyone needs a ride. Just need to deep clean my car because my kids have wrecked it

[icy zodiac]

👍

what day of the week is best? Sunday?

[long finch]

I would be up for that @icy zodiac I’m in Bellevue but near I-90/405. I’m also happy to take up to 3 people from Seattle potentially.

[icy zodiac]

I may do a meetup Sun, Dec 29 if that works for enough people. Otherwise Sun, Jan 12

[long finch]

I’m tied up until about 2pm on 12/29 unfortunately.

New scale!

[native jackal]

1-12 would work better for me

[icy zodiac]

ok we'll do Jan 12. 10AM good?

[long finch]

Works for me!

What the….!!!???

[long finch]

Oooh another project https://www.instagram.com/reel/DDCt1z1sX1r/?igsh=MWdtd3Brbng2b3JnYg==

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[fickle nexus]

Does anyone have a b75 recipe they like?

[manic portal]

my approach with fast flat drippers is to start with coarse grind/5 equal pours, 45 second bloom and then pour when water level is about 1-2 cm above bed. the b75, i've found, is happy from 12-15g dose

then i start dialing with bloom time and pour speed. i don't tend to change anything else unless something's really weird eg. clogging that makes me think about doing weird stuff to manage fines

that's for my palate, the thinking is that heavy agitation tends to accentuate acidity which i find is lacking in flat-bottoms otherwise. in general though the b75 is a really solid normal brewer and any normal recipe should be dialable to taste good

the one thing i have noticed about the b75 in particular is that the ridges don't always interact as intended with filter papers stiffer than kalita. not sure if that matters

[jovial wharf]

I tend to use the april recipe. 1:16 ratio, ~4.8 on the ZP6, and two equal pours. Split the pours 50/50 spiral then center pour. I adjust water temp based on processing. Ridges can sometimes be a litle finicky for sure, but i like mine with sworks filters personally.

12.5g dose is my go to.

[half badger]

For anyone interested/available, I'll be doing a popup at Driftwood this Sunday from 4-8pm 🙂 gonna be brewing up Gout, Oasis, Kabuki and Fluid

I'll also be doing a tasting at some point this month with Gout, TPC, Substance and Kabuki. I can post some more deets about that when I actually have that planned out lol

[icy zodiac]

Alki?

[half badger]

Yep 🙂

[icy zodiac]

Ok

[half badger]

For anyone who was interested in coming to this pop up, i was informed last night that it's a closed event and is only available to people who buy a $70 ticket to driftwoods "open" house. So honestly, wouldn't recommend anyone comes to this lol

But I'm planning a coffee tasting for Saturday January 18th for anyone interested 🙂 don't have a time yet, but probably around 11am

[long finch]

In case anyone is interested, I have a free Kalita 155S (small metal one) with filter papers looking for a new home. Can bring it to the next meetup.

[modern trellis]

I’d love to grab this!

[long finch]

I know @icy zodiac had mentioned doing an Eastside meetup on 1/12 at 10am. Did we come up with a date for a Seattle on in January?

[icy zodiac]

Yes confirmed

Is there someway I should post it for RSVP and to share the address?

[slim shale]

you guys see homage opened in the old root space?

[coarse imp]

good to see they have similar coffee selection

[manic portal]

i think hannah said they took over all the wholesale accounts

somebody try the brewing and report back plz

[dawn shadow]

I found an unspent $30 Root gift card in my wallet 😢

[manic portal]

go to dale's house and demand he brew you coffee lol

[half badger]

https://airworkscoffee.com/products/local-tasting-event-01-18-11-30-12-30

For anyone who's interested, here's a link to my tasting event on the 18th. It's 20pp since I'll be brewing up some higher end stuff. I'll have some cheaper ones later as well

Also, I think I'm going to be doing a free cupping at Elm late jan/early Feb. I'll post here when I have details for that for anyone interested!

[long finch]

Unfortunately it looks like I’ll be out of town on 1/12 😦

[icy zodiac]

I'm creating the event now and will share it shortly

[icy zodiac]

https://partiful.com/e/DvEPv4zEY5QwEGs3QeVC?

[icy zodiac]

see you guys on Sunday. if people need rides, post here. There were a couple willing parties

Hopefully @half badger will be able to make it too

[long finch]

Oh man I’m bummed I’m missing this!

[coarse imp]

I will need a ride to join this meetup

[icy zodiac]

@coarse imp where are you coming from? I can ask

[coarse imp]

DT Seattle, SLU

[icy zodiac]

Anyone coming from SLU area who can bring @coarse imp ?

[shut gyro]

damn this was a shocking way to discover root is gone

[dawn shadow]

Yeah..

[shut gyro]

not entirely surprising but that place was actually great.

[robust socket]

I got to go to Root once and it was such a pleasant experience. Sad it’s gone but hopeful the next place will do it justice

[rancid dome]

Big thanks to @icy zodiac for hosting today!

[icy zodiac]

@rancid dome my pleasure- look forward to doing it again in February

I had too much caffeine

[half badger]

Looks fun! Sad I missed it @icy zodiac

Definitely will come by for one of the feb ones!

[coarse imp]

West side meetup when

Going to share some Chinese roasts I brought back

[half badger]

I'm free on the 25th this month if anyone wants to do a meet up. I can do Sundays starting next month too

[coarse imp]

And some teas if anyone is interested

[icy zodiac]

@troller yes please

[long finch]

You all look pretty caffeinated 😃

[shut gyro]

would be hilarious for me going from 24th bourbon meetup in evening, 25th spro bro meetup in morning.. biggest 180 ever

[hollow zinc]

Bourbon meetup you say, are you in WBH?

[shut gyro]

Yessir 🫡

[hollow zinc]

well well well hah

[shut gyro]

funnily enough, after my bourb phase, coffee has tasted more bean juicey

[shut gyro]

Whats your favorite stuff you had in 2024–anything you’re hunting 2025?

[hollow zinc]

im kinda an "old head" and often times say those phrases "I remember when this use to cost ......." or "I remember when "x" was on the shelf for months" etc. lol

But to me outside of the obvious big hitter LE's, its always whats coming out of Wild Turkey ... so russels reserve 13/15 for me

the old masters keeps use to be on the shelfs for 6 months at $125

[shut gyro]

Haha siiick. Im hoping they keep running rr15. That was the best thing i had all year. Started this journey in like june though.

[hollow zinc]

you missed the good ol days of Bobs Liquor than

was a great place

[shut gyro]

yep. Funnily enough, one of the first people i met in bourbon was brent enloe.. what a gem of a human.

[hollow zinc]

for sure

[long finch]

Anyone familiar with roaster Tug 6 up in BC?

[fickle nexus]

Where is this?

[long finch]

Espressotec in Vancouver BC https://espressotec.com/

Cool to visit. They have a bunch of coffees you can sample rather like Seattle Coffee Gear. However, they mostly seem to be medium to dark roast.

[long finch]

Funk in Vancouver. Medium to dark. Quite tasty though as my first of the day.

Timberline was recommended. I had the Habtamu Fikadu Aga Ethiopian as a pourover. Did not enjoy it. At all. Was flat and cardboardy. Pastries seemed nice.

Random food pr0n. Sandwich was US$12 inclusive. That’s a $25 sandwich in Seattle and it was delicious. I would go back just for that at The Bird and the Beets.

Pastry and macchiato was at Nemesis.

[rancid dome]

I consistently get recommended revolver in Vancouver if that isn’t on Your list yet. Never been

[long finch]

I went last time I was there over the summer. As the name suggests, they have a lot of different roasters. This is what they had at that time. The most interesting experiences that I think this crowd would enjoy were at Yuan and R Ki.

[half badger]

I like revolver, but they can be kinda hit or miss with their selection tbh. Yuan and r ki are definitely my favs too 🙂 need to go back up to Vancouver lol

[coarse imp]

Meetup around 2/8?

[fickle nexus]

Trip to homage?

[half badger]

I'll be doing a cupping at Elm on 2/8, but I'm down for a meetup after or on a different day

I can do 2/9 🙂 and i could host if @fickle nexus doesn't want to. Also down with homage, but they're busy on weekends and there's not a lot of seating

[sour radish]

Howdy everyone! Just wanted to introduce myself. Been around this discord for a while but just recently noticed there is a Seattle crew! Would be cool to make it to one of the meet ups soon. I’m a coffee professional with various experience, but still love tasting coffee as much as I did on day one. Hope to see yall around!

[fickle nexus]

I’ll host again in march!

[half badger]

Any interest in 2/9 then? I'm happy to host for one!

I'm in Westlake and have a big space for it. Only downsides are that I have to let everyone in myself and there's no bathroom on the floor where I could host it

[slim shale]

fwiw 2/9 is super bowl so unsure if people have plans.

[fickle nexus]

Superb owl

[coarse imp]

I’m okay with 2/9

[fickle nexus]

I have family visiting that weekend so I will likely be busy

[half badger]

Oh, didn't realize lol

I think i have an event I'm putting together for the 15th, but the 16th might work

Or we can do a meet up for all fellow non sports fans on the 9th lol

[sour radish]

Can you all let me know how the meetups work? Is this just like a bring coffee to share thing?

[slim shale]

pretty much haha, people will typically bring some brewing equipment (dripper, kettle, scale, spro machine, etc) and a cup and we’ll just try a bunch of coffees

[sour radish]

Oh cool! Sounds fun, I'll try to make it to one of the next meetups.

[half badger]

Meet up on the 16th then?

[half badger]

12-2ish work for everyone?

This is my address: 1287 westlake ave n

Lots of available parking in a lot across the street that's free on weekends 🙂 and easyish to get to with transit lol

[long finch]

Anyone have any experience with the Timemore 064S (primarily for espresso but sure why not for pourover)?

[fickle nexus]

#1090096507094573057

That thread is super alive

I joined it when I got the 078 and now I can’t ignore it lol

[long finch]

Oh... I didn’t realize it was a thread. Doh. Will check it out. How do you like the 078? I’m worried it’ll be too big for my counter.

Never mind. Turns out the 078 is actually smaller than my Eureka, and shorter. Kinda like the look of the Vario VS6 but proprietary burr sets and QA is questionable.

[manic portal]

i'm a big 78 fan

[long finch]

Did we have one at any of the meetups?

[slim shale]

maybe the november one i think?

[manic portal]

i can see about bringing it to the next one if you want

[long finch]

I’d be interested for sure. If it isn’t too much trouble.

I see they have a new one that comes with SSP burrs. And 15% off but the white one is sold out 😦

[manic portal]

i think probably the best thing about 078 is the non-ssp burrs

similar level of clarity and general good-ness without the harsh dial in experience

they do kind of make everything present the same acidity but i like that profile

[long finch]

Oh that’s really good to know.

[manic portal]

you can find them on the b/s/t here for like 600 relatively easy, presumably from kickstarter backers

[long finch]

I’m watching Aramse’s review and he’s saying 6-7kg to season it(!)

[manic portal]

the seasoning experience is... weird

i think it was pretty drinkable out of the box but i couldn't really dial in at fine settings somehow, just coarse + high agitation

a year later it's completely brainless and i barely change anything

also the stock hopper sucks

those are the only two glaring qol issues though and they're solvable

[fickle nexus]

The 078 is strictly for pour over from what I’ve heard, but those turbo burrs are god tier

[long finch]

I meant 078S. You’re absolutely right.

[long finch]

Brainless is my middle name.

[manic portal]

oh, i actually don't know anything about the 78s burrs

probably a sick grinder with SSPs though

[half badger]

Hey! If anyone's interested in going to my cupping with elm this Saturday, here's a link to rsvp: https://airworkscoffee.com/products/rsvp
Gonna be cupping some of my coffees as well as some Colombians from them. Thought people could just swing by, but they didn't think more than 5 people would show up apparently, so now you have to rsvp 😅

[long finch]

Ugh. Did not realize there was an rsvp

[half badger]

There wasn't supposed to be 😦

He grossly underestimated how many people were interested 😅

Might be able to squeeze you in if you still wanna go!

[long finch]

Yeah I’d love to.

But I know it is a small space.

[silk tundra]

To the SEA-TAC people, how painful is getting around the Tacoma-Puyallap-Edgewood area without a car?

Asking because I'll be in Tacoma early March (13-17) for a 2 day edm event at the Tacoma Dome, and I don't drive 🫠

[manic portal]

it’s not great. the streetcar will get you from the dome around downtown, and the bus system is pretty ok, but you mention pullayup and edgewood and those are not real urbanist hotspots

there’s technically regional rail that stops in tacoma and edgewood, but it runs like 3 times a day (less on weekends i think) so don’t expect to use it without careful planning

[silk tundra]

Ogey, sounds like I'm staying near Downtown Tac then for ease of access.
Thank you for the insight

[manic portal]

yeah if you’re in tac it’ll be ok

[long finch]

Cupping at Elm was a lot of fun!

[coarse imp]

Enjoyed hydrangea af2 natural and that ginger/floral PB

[exotic horizon]

oh fuck. missed that

[manic portal]

it sold out! but there's a meetup at @half badger's place next week if you scroll up

[half badger]

Glad you guys came! Had a good time 🙂

[half badger]

Those were my 2 favs on the cupping table too lol

[icy zodiac]

I am thinking to have a meetup on 2/16. will confirm soon

[coarse imp]

All my newly ordered coffees shipped at once

Hopefully some more interesting ones can get delivered by Fri so we can taste during meetup

[long finch]

I think that’s when @half badger is doing the Seattle one. Do you want to come that one?

[half badger]

I'm hosting a seattle meet up on that day. Would love to see you there! And I'd love to come to a meet-up that you host if you do it on a different day!

[coarse imp]

Oh meetup is on Sunday?

My memory fooled me again

[half badger]

Lol yep

[coarse imp]

Great, hopefully my beans can arrive by Saturday then

[clear iron]

someone is bringing an 078 on sunday right?

[coarse imp]

Did you guys have enough kettles last time?

[fickle nexus]

I no longer have one, but I think orm does

[clear iron]

i wanna say we had enough kettles last time, but maybe 1 more would have been nice

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Ek1SLdSKuqpmNljZ5ZtUCB93xjxXMuN9oyJgxX2GtV4/edit?usp=sharing

i just copied the format from last time

[coarse imp]

I have my commandante back, anyone want to try?

[manic portal]

sure, i’ll bring mine

[coarse imp]

It's view only

[clear iron]

thanks, just fixed that

[clear iron]

i'd be curious to see how the millab compares to the c40

i was surprised with how not-terrible the millab was overall but otherwise i don't really have a frame of reference for how it compares with other conical burrs

[icy zodiac]

Where is yours and what day should I host on? I’m flexible

@half badger

[long finch]

Does anyone have a Scace pressure gauge manometer thing? I want to see what pressure my Silvia is putting out because I think it is too high.

[slim shale]

before i’ve measured that in the silvia with the blind basket and measuring rate of water out the opv. there’s some chart on HB i think. Is your silvia the newer one with an adjustable OPV?

i think v3+

[coarse imp]

The coffee I want share the most will not get delivered this week

I have my hs on the way but they are way too fresh to brew

[half badger]

Well now you're banned from the meet up

[hollow oasis]

this spreadsheet is nice!

[half badger]

Anyone interested in me bringing an aiden to the meetup?

[manic portal]

very yes actually

[half badger]

Okay, I'll bring it! Still haven't messed around too much with it, but happy to bring it!

[long finch]

Does anyone have a Scace yeah I think it is a v5 made in 2021. I opened it to do the PID install but left the OPV alone until I’d pulled some shots through it. Now I’ve pulled some shots and I’m at about 15s for 18g in, ~36-40g out for something like Onyx Geometry, which I would describe as on the medium end of light. I’m grinding about as fine as I can and have tried with both the Eureka and the K-Ultra, so I think the pressure is the next thing to look at.

Maybe I’ll bring it along and we can see if I can get different results with one of the better grinders.

[slim shale]

https://www.home-barista.com/tips/how-to-determine-brew-pressure-on-rancilio-silvia-t15474.html

this chart

[spice pelican]

Hello 👋 I've been attending the Airworks events and heard about this discord

[long finch]

Looks like I’m getting a little over 200ml/min which implies around 10bar. Need to get different wrenches to adjust the OPV.

[sour radish]

10bar at the group head isn’t crazy high though. May need to still address the grind size or the temperature.

[long finch]

My temp is high but not overly so. I guess I’ll grind finer 🙂

[fickle nexus]

I have to miss out today. I am very sick 😦

[coarse imp]

Take care!

[slim shale]

i am unfortunately also in this boat

[long finch]

Ugh sorry to hear that 😦

I’ve updated the Google Sheet above with stuff I’ll bring. Someone wanted my Kalita Wave dripper but I can’t remember who that was.

@half badger Do we need any distilled water?

[half badger]

If you wanna bring some that'd be great! I don't have any

But I'll have a large brita filter if we just wanna use tap

A couple of heads up with my space:

1. I didn't officially reserve it for this because you need to pay for that. It isn't reserved today and is usually empty. But some people may wonder in.

2. There's pretty shit service there, so if you're running late, it may take me a bit to get a message to come get you. There's also no real way for me to let you in, so I'll just have to come get you

3. There's no bathroom on the floor that it's on. So I'll have to let you down to the lobby.

I'll start setting up soonish and will wait outside around 12 to let people in. I also have some takeaway cups and whatnot if you didn't bring your own cups 🙂

[native jackal]

One of these days I'm going to make it to an event.

[half badger]

And here's the address again in case you need it: 1287 westlake ave n, Seattle 98109

[rancid dome]

I’ll bring l-theanine ha. I don’t have any coffees worth bringing atm

[torn prairie]

I can swing by work and grab one on the way!

[long finch]

Amazing!!! I have the espresso machine.

[spiral pilot]

Omw eta 12:05

[coarse imp]

Arrived, at entrance on Dexter Ave

[jovial wharf]

I will be there at 12:15!

[half badger]

Okay, hold up were on the other side

I'll come in a sec

[hollow oasis]

I will be there in a minute

[half badger]

Coming down now! Let some early people in to start setting up

[jovial wharf]

Walking up now

[half badger]

Thanks for coming everyone! Good seeing you all again 🙂

[coarse imp]

We def need larger space next time

[half badger]

Haha yes I agree

Definitely a bit cramped/hectic 😅

[long finch]

Awesome meetup! Good to meet some new folks and see old friends.

[slim shale]

i would like to know the conclusion of the brew pressure mystery haha, how accurate was the chart?

[long finch]

It is TBD… @torn prairie was unable to find the Scace, but it transpires that his is purely a temperature reading one. I have another lead on one though so I’m going to pursue that. I got to try Cyrus’ (not sure who he is on here) Timemore 078S and for the Onyx Geometry that I’ve been using, we found a good setting for a 1:2.5 ratio.

[coarse imp]

I’m bringing this to the next meetup if not

[long finch]

There seem to be some surprises in this list https://theworlds100bestcoffeeshops.com/top-100-coffee-shops/

[coarse imp]

Surprised to see push x pull

This is a weird list ngl

Food & wine list makes way more sense

[manic portal]

i wonder if this is just social media voting or something

it's such a weird mix of deep nerd shit and neighborhood joints

[coarse imp]

I’m not even sure half of them are popular

[manic portal]

like, savaya is a totally regular barely-specialty local chain in tucson. what human being goes there and also to tim wendelboe and counts them both as top 20?

no judgement on the place but it's a completely different category of experience

it is cool to see so much global representation though

[long finch]

I’ve been to a few of them and was surprised they made it. Also, you had to enter to be considered rather like those “best in show” awards.

[rancid dome]

substance not making a top 100 shop list is criminal. straight to jail

[sour radish]

This list really is random. There are shops that definitely deserve to be there and there are some that are like “huh?”

[spice pelican]

Yea what a weird list, Toby's estate being number 1 is strange

no one has ever recommended me it in Australia

given that toby's and onyx are 1 and 2 maybe they're going with the largest big name roasters in the west?

[hollow oasis]

Looks like there is an apply link on the website, so I assume it is the top 100 from who applied? lol

Also if there is no clear criteria, then the ranking means nothing

[exotic horizon]

has anyone checked out the new place where root was?

homage i think?

[hollow oasis]

I went there last week, it is pretty nice

[exotic horizon]

im going to check it out now

[coarse imp]

Please lmk

[exotic horizon]

woah its like an actual cafe now

la cabra is coal nothing new there tho

[hollow oasis]

I remember they have two beans for espresso, the ILSE one is the light roast which could be better? (I have not tried that yet tho)

[exotic horizon]

they only had la cab today

[coarse imp]

La coal

[exotic horizon]

they sell song tea???

[manic portal]

i found homage ok. a lot more regular coffee/brewing wise now, but still probably the best option in the city for clean/light(ish) coffee

i do think na-roasted la cabra has more potential than they’re showing over there though. it’s, like, equivalent to sey now imo

[coarse imp]

Nordic roasted la Cabral darker?

[half badger]

Had a long talk with the homage guy yesterday. I agree that the brewing isn't as good, but he has some interesting ideas

[manic portal]

legit yeah lol. or maybe shipping ruins it somehow

[half badger]

Wants to change out roasters every 3 months and focus on more international stuff. But I think he likes more medium stuff. He talked about how sey was almost too light for him and was a struggle to brew

But he wants to do public cuppings and other things like that

[manic portal]

i do feel like sey is weirdly challenging sometimes (not always because of roast). i wonder if dialing it in on a shop level is a pita

or if it’s challenging to use as an entry into lighter roasts

i think homage guy came from mr. west? they had a guest roaster program for a bit that was in the medium-to-sey range. wonder if it’ll be like that

[coarse imp]

I agree with this tbh

[half badger]

When i worked at Sound and Fog, they used to work with sey and always told me how hard they were to work with at a cafe level. So yeah, probably not the best haha. But i would say they're kinda weird to dial in sometimes. Especially compared to other "medium nordic" roasters

[half badger]

He did. And he told me that he wants it to be like that, but with more unique offerings. Talked about a colombian and a peruvian roaster that I'd heard good things about. Seemed open to recommendations from me for roasters to bring on too

[exotic horizon]

need to convince him to stock substance

[coarse imp]

Just say you can source coffee for them

[half badger]

We actually talked about substance and TPC and he was legit interested. They don't really do wholesale, so not sure how viable it would be tbh lol

[half badger]

Legit trying to do this around the city

I offered to do it for him. He's mostly interested in my thoughts on roasters and then him bringing them in. Gonna assist with sourcing coffee for numa's pourover program. Talking to Koto jelly about helping them source more Japanese roasters. And I'm slowly trying to convince a few other cafes lol

[slim shale]

this is not mine but also someone should get this lol

[long finch]

There’s someone selling a Philos too

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/614014241496519/?

Goddammit Egg I’m down the FB Marketplace rabbit hole now 🤣

[slim shale]

lol

i might be buying that guys sitting

*ditting

[long finch]

It looks well priced. There’s one on here in AZ for 1900

[long finch]

Gonna check it out later today.

[clear iron]

anyone know of NA roasters who sell single use drip bags? i previously used Hooked but they only carry coal now

[manic portal]

steeped has some only slightly coal-ish options (i’ve had the la cabra which was fine)

tea bag style kind of annoying though

[sour radish]

Dune Coffee carry an instant that’s pretty good. So does Black and White. I think both are through Steeped.

[manic portal]

i think you’re thinking of swift, who does powdered instant

steeped is the weird little tea bags

hooked is the thing that folds out into a little paper dripper of its own

i think they're all proprietary ip besides the freeze drying

[coarse imp]

La cabra

[manic portal]

oh, coffee project new york does hooked-style bags. looks like coal blends only though

[clear iron]

yeah i've tried the la cabra tea bags, they grind way too fine

[coarse imp]

Now I think about it April is all I remember if you want to have anything lighter

[clear iron]

yeah problem is the only place in the US i know that sells April is kumquat in LA and they're low on selection rn

i'll look more into steeped, hopefully the grind is better

[manic portal]

steeped is the vendor that packs la cabra's bags

[long finch]

Spoke to the Homage folks quite a bit after they closed for the day and my daughter went to the curiosity shop down the street. His name is Clinton and his wife is Rachel. She does all the ceramics and they’re really cool. They’ve got some good ideas. Hope they can make a success out of it. Really hope they do some cuppings and we can support them.

[half badger]

I agree! He seems passionate and has a lot of good ideas. Definitely excited to see what comes from it! I think we'll be doing a cupping together like i did for elm for his first one. Giving him some tips for marketing future events online as well!

[long finch]

I’d love to see an evening event featuring decaf and food. Charge for it.

[half badger]

Oh yeah, I've had that idea actually. Also there's some pm book clubs that I found that I thought would be fun to serve decaf at. Haven't announced anything, but I'm (in between everything else) meeting with someone next week about a semi permanent pop up space (similar agreement to what numa and driftwood are doing). So I'm setting things up lol. But I have thoughts for pm decaf things.

[manic portal]

just remembered, you can always roll your own https://kurasu.kyoto/collections/brewing-gear/products/my-cafe-drip-filter?_pos=11&_fid=6117dd5a4&_ss=c

[clear iron]

i’m specifically looking for drip bags that are ready to brew right out of the package so i can give them to people who don’t have any gear or haven’t tried decent coffee before, but this looks interesting too. who knows, i may have a use for them someday

[manic portal]

gotcha, that's a tough use case. you might just have to buy from overseas

[long finch]

At Numa this morning

[hollow oasis]

Where is the coffee shop?

[clear iron]

Driftwood in West Seattle

it’s a popup, not a full cafe

[coarse imp]

Brewed a dak warshed caturra sample I got from @manic portal last year

Very Nestor lasso-y

[manic portal]

oh yeah that was dank lol

i think it's this one https://www.dakcoffeeroasters.com/shop/coffee/tropic-electric?quantity=200g&roast=espresso

they put it out as a sound and fog exclusive last year so the processing was a mystery. but now we know, and it's not surprising

[long finch]

Any coffee events this weekend?

[dawn shadow]

I bought a home roaster 🫣

[half badger]

I'll be brewing coffee... at my apartment

But yeah, I don't think anything interesting is happening lol. I've got a bunch of new coffee for our next meet up (whenever that is) though

[long finch]

Which one?

[dawn shadow]

The Aillio Bullet

I said out loud that I had everything I could ever want in my coffee setup. I didn't even consider roasting.

[long finch]

New rabbit hole unlocked!

[still timber]

@dawn shadow love my bullet!! Congrats!

[dawn shadow]

I've only done popcorn popper roasts and a stovetop roast many years ago

I went down the home roasting YouTube rabbit hole. Any recommendations for beans besides sweetmarias?

[native jackal]

When I was still doing home roasting, I got my beans at Boon Boona.

[pure stirrup]

Showroom Coffee, Hacea.
Also, Minmax has unroasted coffee available, giving an opportunity to try Royal etc. without buying 60kg bags.

[dawn shadow]

Thanks! I'll try out those and I'm right near Boon Boona, so worth a shot to ask for green beans from them

[half badger]

Open on Most Days is really cool if you haven't been yet

They're switching to a reservation based system in the near future. I think their matcha/mixed drinks were better than their pourovers, but Zared is a chill dude and it's a fun space

Also, he may serve some coffee from me next week. And we're talking about doing some events together. But regardless, a fun shop to stop by!

[long finch]

Read this 3 time before realizing that it is actually called Open On Most Days! 😝

[native jackal]

That's pretty good, took me 4.

[slim shale]

he had a pop up at a vintage shop in tacoma, was curious about it but didn’t have the time to stop by, will definitely check it out next time!

[rancid dome]

Where is “open on most days”? Can’t find it!

[slim shale]

https://www.instagram.com/openonmostdays

they’re popping up today actually downtown at river for a vintage market

[rancid dome]

Sick!

Kinda funny to look at their calendar on the IG. Not most days 😂

Maybe that’s the point? Ha

[half badger]

They do random pop ups, but they also rent out a garage in west seattle that they are at 1-2x a week haha

[still timber]

Sweet Maria’s is my go to - sagebrush for more exotic beans.

[coarse imp]

Tried outsiders bbq last night. Very good for Seattle standard but line is kinda insane

[hollow oasis]

Seattle standard? That does not sound very good lol😆

[coarse imp]

It’s good but you cannot really compare with Texas ones

[hollow oasis]

Great, will try this one day

[native jackal]

How does it compare to Pecos Pit?

[coarse imp]

Better, outsiders is on par if not better than woodshop IMO

[slim shale]

i wasn’t too keen on woodshop the times i’ve visited. I do partially put that up to visiting later in the day for trivia though.

[long finch]

Well shit now I feel like uncovering my smoker and firing up the pit 😂

[native jackal]

I haven't tried Woodshop, but I'm a bit south of Seattle these days. Pecos Pit is the only one I've found so far that I actually liked, aside from Pinkies, which no longer exists.

There are a few down here that I haven't tried yet, so maybe one of them might be good. Cedar River BBQ is one I am planning on checking out soon.

[spice pelican]

https://www.instagram.com/grasslands_barbecue?igsh=eHF1enVjY2dqM3V4

I've heard good things about grasslands which is doing a pop up later this month

[slim shale]

oh this is walkable from me, will definitely check it out

[spice pelican]

I will warn you though, the lines are apparently hours long at previous pop ups

[half badger]

Anyone been to lil red? A bit different, but probably my favorite BBQ here. I've heard 4 sons in parkland is the best BBQ here but haven't been yet. Bbq2u in gig harbor is surprisingly decent too

[sour radish]

Woodshop BBQ is the best I’ve had in Seattle, coming from a Texan who used to frequent Kansas City. Highly recommend

[native jackal]

I love Lil Red's; but not for for their BBQ. I go there for the jerk, and especially the curry goat.

I also like the escovich fish. The smoked chicken fettuccine is also amazing, but the sauce is like 90% butterfat, so...

[spice pelican]

I've been to Jeff's in Marysville and that was pretty good, but I've never had "real" bbq from the south

[half badger]

Yeah, their jerk/curry goat is the best thing they have for sure. But the rib tibs and burnt ends with jerk bbq sauce are pretty legit imo

Haven't tried the fettuccine, but maybe I need to lol

[native jackal]

I freakin' love their jerk sauce. Reminds me, I need to make another trip soon 'cause my last bottle is almost empty.

[raw tiger]

Hi everyone, this is Cyrus. I went to the Seattle meet up on Feb 16. Thanks for letting me join you all here as well.

[long finch]

Thanks for letting me use your 078S!

[long finch]

Really glad I came into the office 🫠

[half badger]

Gotta love the Starbucks ultralight release

[long finch]

Less single origin more singularly awful.

Some machines are loaded with this and I feel bad because I’d love to support them but… it is even worse than SBUX. https://blkandbold.com/pages/about-us

[half badger]

I have too much good coffee at home. We should do another meet up so I can clear up some of my backlog 😂

[coarse imp]

I need to offload some coffee

Meetup when

[slim shale]

15th or 16th?

i guess we’d have to figure out where first lol

i do wonder if we could rent out a room at the library

it’s need to be open to all, but it is free

[fickle nexus]

I’m open to hosting again, do we have too many people now?

[half badger]

Idk I think it would still work. But its definitely pushing it

I don't have to invite new people either lol

[fickle nexus]

Yeah I’d be cool with that lol

[long finch]

Probably not surprising given that it is market day but Homage in Ballard is slammed, which is good to see!

[manic portal]

we gotta set it up to allow multiple answers imo

should be a box you can check

[fair burrow]

Food was good but the price was extortionate

[coarse imp]

I agree but this is just Seattle being Seattle

[fair burrow]

Hahaha yeah that’s true. I’ll probably be back at some point after hanging out in Ballard but my wallet wont like it

[fickle nexus]

i'll reserve the room for 3/22

[long finch]

https://www.costco.com/kirkland-signature-organic-ethiopia-whole-bean-coffee%2C-2-lbs.product.100401327.html
Has anyone actually tried this?

[manic portal]

i've had this early on in my coffee drinking non-career

i believe my notes were "it's aight"

[long finch]

I guess I could use it for seasoning

Or making bbq rub?

[manic portal]

that was before i became a radicalized light roast drinker though

[long finch]

“Tastes like coffee”

[sour radish]

I'd be scared to season my grinder with that

[coarse imp]

Compost if you have a garden?

[long finch]

I mean it is probably their least bad option.

[manic portal]

i'll say it is, like, a light roast and not coal. not specialty light by any means but it's, like, not close to 2nd crack

[sour radish]

No way it's even remotely fresh though, right?

[manic portal]

anything's possible i guess🤷‍♀️. costco sells lots of perishables

[long finch]

Supposedly if you order it online, it ships directly from the roaster.

[rancid dome]

Costco sold gesha a couple years ago. 🤣

Honestly the best thing they have is the deals on 2lb vita del sol if you have someone at home that drinks big lattes for example

But that ain’t me

[icy zodiac]

hi everyone

[long finch]

Oof https://dailycoffeenews.com/2025/03/04/sur-la-table-acquires-coffee-equipment-specialist-seattle-coffee-gear/

[clear iron]

apparently they had already sold to private equity when gail retired, so it can't be worse

[long finch]

True. But I expect it means store closures. Like do they need a SLT store in downtown Kirkland and a SCG store less than a mile away?

[long finch]

Any must try places on SF?

[manic portal]

if you get out to the east bay, coro and ain't normal are pretty central to modern american specialty coffee imo

i think coffee movement is the cafe of record in sf

fellow store also kind of fun

[signal goblet]

Coffee movement for sure
Maybe check out Saint Frank. Been a while since I’ve been there.
Also Golden Goat has some great coffees they’re serving

[long finch]

Awesome!!! Thanks!

[clear iron]

SF coffee popped off after i left, so i've only tried Saint Frank of the places already mentioned and it was okay, i've heard good things about Paper Son

if you want a neat experience, sightglass does their roasting at the front of the shop which is fun even if the coffee is mid

andytown has good iced sweetened drinks if you somehow end up there on a warm day (long shot though)

[long finch]

Yeah Soghtglass was my local when I used to be there for work.

[clear iron]

there's also blue bottle

if you're gonna be down on the peninsula you should check out kaizen & coffee in san mateo, 1 oz coffee and moonwake in south bay (you can see the moonwake branded cybertruck in person lol)

for east bay, mind coffee in berkeley and mother tongue in oakland in addition to the ones orm mentioned

[long finch]

SF Coffee · David
https://maps.app.goo.gl/i4n8iRJD1SR7orLk8?g_st=i https://maps.app.goo.gl/i4n8iRJD1SR7orLk8?g_st=ic

Made a list thanks all of you and Brian from Min/Max

[half badger]

I'm gonna try to swing by Elm's free cupping tomorrow. Anyone else planning on stopping by? Starts at 1. I'm not a part of this one, just wanna try their new peruvian lots lol

[fair burrow]

Got a work event tmrw but sounds cool, how are elms roasts? I’ve only tried boon boona and Olympia from Seattle

[manic portal]

elm is probably the most respectable roaster in the city, still very “american specialty” but trending lighter. their sourcing is pretty good too. very sey-like overall

[long finch]

I’m out of town 😦

[hollow oasis]

Hi, what time will be the 3/22 gathering?

[manic portal]

@fickle nexus can confirm but usually start around 11, end around 2

[hollow oasis]

Nice, thanks

[long finch]

Noice.

[long finch]

^this was Paper Son in SF. Lots of Hydrangea but he also has a coffee library if you ask him nicely. @half badger I think he has ordered from you too? Lots of SE Asian roasters.

[half badger]

It's definitely possible that he's ordered from me. We chat pretty regularly 🙂 really nice guy. Had no idea they had off menu stuff!

Really need to make my way down there. Pretty much half of my customer base is in the bay area lol

[long finch]

He had that Cool Roast Curves Tubes red honey gesha in his stash.

Went to this place my hotel. Supposedly third wave. They serve Equator and it was undrinkable. I had to toss it.

[spice pelican]

Oooh that's neat

I'll add it to my list

[half badger]

Probably gonna be a bit late to the meetup on Saturday. Have a million things going on that day 😅 so I won't be there until 12:30-12:45. But I've got A LOT of coffee lol. And I'll bring my aiden (actually with the filters this time @jovial wharf )

[fickle nexus]

Oh I forgot to follow up but we’re all systems go for Saturday. I have the room from 11am onward, but I’ll probably be setting up until 1130 or so

Should we do an excel sheet again or just yolo it

Also we could create a slush fund to bribe spaceballs for coffee ice cream lol

[coarse imp]

Almost forgot, where’s my illegal coffee ice cream @clear iron

[manic portal]

we should probably set up the spreadsheet i guess

head count is high lately, our kettle requirements are vast

not sure how many people are going to show up without airworks promo tho

[clear iron]

have you seen how much eggs cost rn? i'm not wasting them on illegal coffee ice cream

[clear iron]

slush fund for coffee ice cream eggs

[slim shale]

https://under-belly.org/ice-cream-stabilizers/

[clear iron]

fr tho i'm getting some locust bean gum soon so i can start up again

[slim shale]

i’ve used gelatin + xanthan in that article with great success

[coarse imp]

egg is mostly a thickening agent in ice cream?

[slim shale]

stabilizer, it makes it so the ice cream isn’t “icy”

[dawn shadow]

as a vegetarian I never considered having to check ice cream ingredients.. uh oh

[slim shale]

i think tillamook uses mostly locust bean gum, but for sure haagen daz uses eggs

[dawn shadow]

I'm a sneaky vegetarian who doesn't mind eggs in things. but is bothered by gelatin

I've never made a meetup. But I'm up for Saturday. Can someone link the info again?

[long finch]

Paging @fickle nexus

I know how to get there but don’t actually know the address 😂

[slim shale]

near baitan or fogón cocina, door off belmont

[manic portal]

cmon fellas just use the search

[dawn shadow]

Right across from Neko 😺

[coarse imp]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Ek1SLdSKuqpmNljZ5ZtUCB93xjxXMuN9oyJgxX2GtV4/edit?gid=1802641030#gid=1802641030 created another tab

[wraith mesa]

greetings. from central WA

anyone willing to share the absolute best coffee shop on your side of the mountains? I'm looking for the best of the best experience possible

[manic portal]

the best of the best is probably in vancouver

but in wa probably homage or narrative?

root would have been an easy #1 but they changed hands

[exotic horizon]

its not great here

probably homage

[manic portal]

depends on your taste too

if you're a big italian espresso goop person, vivace is the canonical shop

[half badger]

Echoing what everyone else said with either narrative or homage. No real serious coffee shops though imo. But for the sake of variety, I'd also recommend Sound and Fog (great selection of coffee but they don't really focus on serving it well if that makes sense) and Numa (a popup in driftwood. Look for them on ig not google). I also recommend voi ca phe too. Coffees generally a bit too dark for me, but they source from vietnamese roasters and are at least unique, so I appreciate them for that

[wraith mesa]

Thanks for all the help! This is making a lot of sense. I’m originally out of state and have been confused by what I’ve seen.

I was hoping west side could alleviate the pain.

Anyone know if Portland would be better coffee destination?

Someone mentioned Vancouver CA?

[manic portal]

vancouver and victoria are pretty loaded with serious coffee shops. revolver, r ki, st. cecilia in victoria, a few more (airworks has a list i think). portland is ok - they kind of stalled a while back but proud mary's reserve menu is still worth visiting for; roseline and heart also good when the stars align

tbh though there's like half a dozen coffee shops in the country that i could say are reliably serving really really good coffee. suited in nyc, thank you thank you in philly, endorffeine in la, now and then in nashville (all very different visions of excellence). root was pretty close to that level but it got bought out and turned into homage, which is still pretty good but not quite up to par. the PNW in general is a little bit overcommitted to the things specialty coffee culture valued circa 2010; we'll get there one day

[half badger]

Adding to @manic portal 's vancouver list: sunny m and yuan are my 2 favorites besides r ki. Modus is solid. Craft cafe is pretty solid too (similar to sound and Fog though). Cowdog and oide (great vibes and drink preparation. Coffee is good). Prototype is a very hipster nerdy coffee place. Their roasting isn't my favorite, but I still stop by every time I'm up there.

Imo vancouver > Victoria > portland > seattle for cafes. But in general the cafe experience in north America as a whole is underwhelming. That's why I mostly just drink coffee at home lol. Still stop by cafes for fun sometimes, just adjust my expectations

[manic portal]

for anyone that hasn't been to @fickle nexus 's: dial 105, be prepared to wait while people run around/cell networks fail

[long finch]

Vancouver BC - usually an easy trip up from Seattle, but these days who the hell knows.

[long finch]

They can tempt me with their pastries. Particularly in Vancouver…

[dawn shadow]

I paged at the front but can't figure it out

[jovial wharf]

We are showing up now.

[fickle nexus]

On my way!

[coarse imp]

Arriving in 10min

[long finch]

My eta is around 12.15. I have food and stuff. Also sparkling water.

Depending on parking I might pull and see if one of you can come out and grab stuff

[hollow oasis]

Arrived

We are at the lobby

Where is the location?

[fair burrow]

Im outside how do i get in lol

[modern trellis]

hey i’m here can someone let me in?

[long finch]

Also outside 😀

[fickle nexus]

Allegedly if you dial 111 you get in for free

[velvet wolf]

So many good stuff! 😻😻😻

[jovial wharf]

It was nice seeing everyone today! I am jacked right now!

[wraith mesa]

my bad, I'm super dumb haha. Vancouver BC! Thank you.

[long finch]

Yeah Yuan was great. He had me video his prep and sent me away with some grind size samples. Hardcore!

[half badger]

Yeah, he's awesome. Need to go visit again soon

[coarse imp]

I finally figured out what that dank Indian coffee smell taste like

TPC aroma nativo PB

[fickle nexus]

I have someone’s dosing tray if you’re missing yours

[exotic horizon]

https://www.facebook.com/share/1CtumVoRkB/?mibextid=wwXIfr

$20 fellow lol

[manic portal]

for sure. that aroma nativo had a weird waxy thing for me that i don't get off the ratnagiri tho

[fair burrow]

What was that CM coffee from the little black bag? Would be fun to get something similar for non - enthusiast guests

[manic portal]

uh, i think we had 3 cms. the bubblegum one, the yemen, and a substance/savage one

oh, and mikava

none of those were in black bags, but @half badger brought some black bag samples, so he'd know if it was one of his

[fair burrow]

Yeah I’m trippin, it was one of the tube ones, I think the bubblegum

[dawn shadow]

Bubblegum was actually a highlight for me

[manic portal]

https://store.driftaway.coffee/products/edwin-norena-finca-campo-hermoso-ruby

guy's website is a disaster but he roasts good funk

[long finch]

I think that’s mine. I was looking it for it just now 😂 I’ll ping you next time I’m in the area.

[jovial wharf]

I don't need more coffee, but this would be fun to have around. 🤔

[clear iron]

split a bag?

[jovial wharf]

Down.

[long finch]

I might have found another victim I mean member of our little meetup crew. He posted about the Seattle scene on r/espresso and I’ve been messaging him.

I feel like I am dragging people into a cult LOL

[narrow stream]

A "victim!"

[long finch]

Welcome!

[long finch]

So I pulled a shot of this today and OMG raspberry in my face. Possibly the most flavorful single origin espresso shot I’ve had.

[fickle nexus]

I’ve had nothing but good beans from Nestor lasso

[manic portal]

i can change that

[fickle nexus]

SUBSCRIBE

[half badger]

Honestly, loved this one. Nestor lasso CAN be a bit much lol, but this one was great. Good roast on it too

Glad it survived well in your freezer lol

[dawn shadow]

What were y'all using for hand grinders at the meetup? Any recommendations? Might get one for the new office, the EK is overkill

[slim shale]

zp6 and pietro taste good, zp6 is better workflow

@fickle nexus has had my pietro for the last week, i think he’d be able to compare (i have a feeling he prefers zp6 lol)

[fickle nexus]

ZP6 is the winner 100% assuming you’re not doing espresso

There are cheaper options but I think you get value per dollar up to a zp6

[slim shale]

agreed

[fickle nexus]

My shoulder is still fucked up from Saturday morning lol

[slim shale]

diminishing returns honestly could start hitting at the q2 level

or like a k6 but i’ve not tried the k6

could ask #1016516450804043906 as well

[manic portal]

i’m actually a big q2 fan

i use it for the kind of dank stuff the zp6 is too clarity-forward for

similar to the k6 i’ve tried. i think those blendier budget conicals have a use case over zp6/pietro if you’re drinking funky stuff

[dawn shadow]

Hmm. I will be drinking some funky stuff but will likely share it with 2-3 people who aren't that much into funk

[slim shale]

it’s still decent at the cleaner stuff but blendier

[manic portal]

also easier to brew imo

you can borrow my q2 if it'd help to try it out

[dawn shadow]

Thanks. Maybe! I'll let you know.

[long finch]

I can bring my K-Ultra next time.

BooKoo scale current sitrep. Has been like this for 24 hours. “Hung” while measuring coffee. I think it objected to the metal catch cup I was using. Or maybe not. Who knows. I’m not the only one to have had this happen. The fix? Wait until it runs out of battery (I’d just charged it) or open it and carefully unplug the battery. I’m opting to let it run down to see how much battery life it has 😂

[dawn shadow]

The Black Mirror I brought to the meetup has seen better days too

Moved it to the stove to do a pourover, didn't move it back. Then my partner turned the wrong burner on.

[fickle nexus]

Have they not released a fix for this yet?

[long finch]

Battery ran out overnight and it recovered after charging. I was on 1.0.7 and have now upgraded to 1.0.9. Presumably that will fix it.

[wheat mortar]

sorry to resurrect an old message but I was wondering if anyone had roasters in Seattle simliar to Sightglass

I've been getting Sightglass Owl's Howl as a subscription, but was hoping to switch to something local

[fickle nexus]

There’s a glut of darkside roasters locally, what have you already tried?

[wheat mortar]

I've tried Olympia Big Truck and Victrola Streamline, both felt too dark for my liking

[fickle nexus]

Try boon boona

[wheat mortar]

Thanks! Any specific beans you'd recommend from them?

Stamp Act's Milk Money also sounds promising, might order a bag of that to try

[fickle nexus]

Not really. I’d recommend looking for tasting notes you like

There’s a ton of options here and in Portland though so no need to settle

[clear iron]

i like fulcrum for medium/dark roast espresso

[wheat mortar]

Sightglass calls Owl's Howl "light/medium", so that's what I've been looking for, but it's all pretty inconsistent I guess

[whole goblet]

vita has a new honduras single origin "chery cherry" that I'm liking atm

on the lighter side of medium per their chart, but in my books is just 'light'

their XO blend was also good if you can find it. it's usually available at met marts reasonably fresh

[clear iron]

i consider owl’s howl medium but i suppose all these labels are subjective. fulcrum’s light roast is similar level

i realize that sounds super confusing lol

my medium = owl’s howl = fulcrum light = i enjoy for traditional espresso

[fickle nexus]

Am I looking at the wrong thing?

https://sightglasscoffee.com/cdn/shop/files/Target_x_SG_-_Web_-_Owl_s_Howl_-_1_550x.jpg?v=1719341634

[clear iron]

should be the right thing but who even knows with the roast level label lol

[fickle nexus]

Yeah they don’t provide a picture or code or even origin from what I can see

[clear iron]

pretty sure it's a blend

[wheat mortar]

Lower down on the same page 🙃

https://sightglasscoffee.com/products/owls-howl

it is a blend, yeah. love how they say light/medium, medium, and (per the scale) medium/dark on the same webpage... I've been using it since last summer though and it's been pretty consistent with slight variations

[wheat mortar]

looks like they have a Fremont location, I'll have to check it out. thanks for the rec!

[whole goblet]

baristas are really nice there. just beware they sometimes don't have all the beans for sale there

[manic portal]

i wouldn't overthink it for buying a roaster's "flagship" blend, the main thing they're trying to do there is consistency. just try a few and see what you like! besides the roasters already mentioned, you might try broadcast, kuma, and elm; i think those are a touch lighter than sightglass

[long finch]

@wheat mortar Might want to try this. Despite it claiming to be light, it is definitely more medium https://www.caffevita.com/products/norwester-blend

[manic portal]

anybody want to split the forthcoming bq x hydrangea chinese coffee tasting set?

[coarse imp]

Not sure what size this release would be but down for at least 50g each

[half badger]

Talking with Voi Ca Phe right now. I don't think have they have a huge support here tbh, but I've always appreciated what they do. They're talking about stopping serving coffee and pivoting to food only due to the tariffs wouldn't be surprised if more niche cafes do that

[slim shale]

Got any bean recs to pick up from them?

[half badger]

As a forewarning, their sourcing is generally on the more medium side. But I've liked the coffee I've had from Son Pacamara. Soul fine robusta has some fun offerings as well. And last time I was there, I tried some cleaner lots from Bosgaurus that were interesting. Prefer the roasing from son pacamara though.

They usually have some fun coffee on espresso too

[native jackal]

That would be seriously disappointing. They're one of my favorite coffee shops, and I try to get there the rare occasions I can get into the city.

[half badger]

The coffee they bring in is not my prefered roasting style, but they are easily one of my favorite spots in the city. It's so rare to find a cafe here doing something unique. I've literally been going since their opening day and have gone to all their coffee tastings to talk with them. We planned to do some tastings together too.

I'm offering them advice right now for how they can do it while keeping the cost down. But on top of the tariffs, they told me their roasters are increasing the coffee prices by 25% due to the poor harvests this year and instability in the market. Even without the tariffs, they're struggling to balance it 😭

I think this will impact a lot of the vietnamese roasters in the city too

[icy zodiac]

Who is free for a meet on the 12th? @half badger are you available to join at my place?

[icy zodiac]

I can also do April 13 if that's better than April 12

[rancid dome]

Down for 4/12

[half badger]

What time were you thinking? Pretty sure I'd be able to swing by!

[long finch]

I’m down!

[long finch]

Any coffee shop recommendations around Olympia or for that matter Astoria in Oregon?

[half badger]

I think on the 12th I'm available before noon if we did something earlier. Might be free after 2 as well

[icy zodiac]

I was thinking 9 or 9:30

[half badger]

Oh then, totally!

[half badger]

I've heard bar francis in olympia is solid. Haven't been though. I usually just go to the downtown olympia. Used to like sleeper in Astoria, but they moved into a new space and seem a lot less coffee focused now 😦

[long finch]

Ended up at Olympia coffee - one of their locations. Crazy number of staff.

[long finch]

What can we bring?

[fickle nexus]

Their location on 4th is massive!

All of my old haunts are gone tho 😦

[dawn shadow]

Hand grinder update: I bought the Q2 😲

Specifically the new version, oddly just called Q

[manic portal]

the ol’ backwards versioning

i’m a big q fan (pls no posting out of context)

just put it in your pocket and produce well grinded coffee in any place. hope it treats you well!

[dawn shadow]

Thanks for the recommendation! Looking forward to traveling and camping with it.

[dawn shadow]

I took your recommendation to the extreme and tried the Q with some old funky coffee. Lumi Tabi Koji from 22, over ice.

[manic portal]

ooh, haven't played around with it and ice much. any good?

[fair burrow]

Wish I could but outta town that weekend

[dawn shadow]

Very good. Though the beans are certainly past their prime

[long finch]

Sleepers in Astoria. They have an EK43. No pourover options. Seems like they are going to have a grinder dedicated to a rotating single origin.

[icy zodiac]

https://partiful.com/e/gtq2grQlck4ML9m3gQ2R

See you guys on the 12th

[icy zodiac]

RSVP please

[half badger]

If anyone in seattle wants a ride, hmu! I'll be leaving around 8:30 to get there at 9

[manic portal]

anybody with a september EL sub end up with the sidra last month and want to trade 50g for my mejorado?

[manic portal]

also, @coarse imp https://hydrangea.coffee/products/bq-china-set-4oz-packs still down?

[coarse imp]

Yep

How many coffees are in the set?

[manic portal]

4

website's not fully updated but it looks like 3 funny catimors and 1 sl34

[coarse imp]

Def down for some funny catimors

Okay saw all 4

[manic portal]

i can order tomorrow, not sure if the website is completely set up tonight

[coarse imp]

Actually I might not want to try all 4 but I can split all 4 with you if you cannot finish by yourself

[manic portal]

i'm kinda big backlog rn so splitting is easier for me

[coarse imp]

that makes both of us

[manic portal]

lol

[coarse imp]

[half badger]

Stopped by slow day today. The pourover i got was actually pretty great. It's prodigal, so i didn't wanna like it, but I did

Right now they're serving prodigal and regalia. They've got September, Oma and Big Sur (last 2 are from me!) On retail. I think they've got H & S on the way too. Definitely recommend checking them out!

[ruby laurel]

This may be a dumb question, but is this open to all? I was at a late February meetup but was out of town for the last one.

[manic portal]

i stopped by this morning too! warning, they only do espresso and pourover and it’s not ideal for the morning rush

it was good to see some fun roasters available around here! although they didn’t have any airworks specials out

[half badger]

Ah you must have stopped by before I got there lol. The airworks coffees are up now! And I'll bring them new coffee each week

[fickle nexus]

Alright I’m going this weekend

[half badger]

Yeah, definitely not fast lol. I think they were a bit overwhelmed today too. They told me that they'll also have an automatic pourover maker of some sort soon for faster options. They'll make it cheaper too

[manic portal]

everything but batch is an interesting setup! my pourover was pretty good despite being prepared under full chaos lol. definitely gonna support!

[half badger]

If they can make a good pourover under duress that's a good sign in my book

I'll also be doing tasting events/popups in their space starting in May. And I'll be cupping coffees with the barista who was there (she's also the manager) so that she's more familiar with the nerdy coffee I'm bringing them lol. Not sure if they'll put it on bar yet. We'll see how it goes

[torn prairie]

I had a really nice washed Colombia gesha roasted by prodigal on pour over there this morning as well. really tasty coffee, brewed really well I thought.

[clear iron]

my strategy has been to read what green scott is hyping up, then purchase it from another roaster

[long finch]

For people needing transportation to @icy zodiac ‘s Eastside meetup on the 12th, I could ferry up to three people from/to the Eastgate Park and Ride.

[icy zodiac]

Yes, would be happy to have you

[exotic horizon]

@half badger if you ever end up opening an airworks cafe in seattle my resume is ready to go

[coarse imp]

Have you reached out to homage?

[exotic horizon]

are they hiring?

[half badger]

It's very much on the table tbh. I can shoot you a dm 🙂 not immediately but nearish future

[exotic horizon]

please do

[coarse imp]

Can I invest in the business?

[exotic horizon]

get shotwell to invest

[half badger]

Lol it'll definitely open sooner if it gets crowdfunded by eaf

[exotic horizon]

i mean, youre pretty big here, you might be able to

[fickle nexus]

I expect every inch of the interior to be neon green

[half badger]

If I had a fully on brand cafe, it would definitely be neon green. And covered in graffiti tags. But honestly, I think what I do (obscure coffees, pourovers mostly) is a bit too niche to have a full cafe. But I think we'll be a regular pop up soon 🙂

But I have an idea for a cafe that I think would do well here and is adjacent to what I'm doing. Probably won't be neon green though

[long finch]

I would love to see something like Substance here but I don’t know how it could make business sense on a permanent basis. Just looking around at what people seem to like here (outside of this group), it seems to be 1/ convenience/predictability, 2/ fashionable, Instagrammable milky sweet stuff that has homeopathic amounts of coffee, 3/ “classic” Italian style stuff.

I sent some friends to Homage and they hated it because they wanted classic Italian espresso. I’d be curious to see what Numa serves the most of at his pop up since he seems to cater to a variety of crowds.

[exotic horizon]

nah, you would have to have a good amount of “regular” coffee

the cafe i used to work for had your regular ol’ med-roast-with-malabar blend they used for espresso, and then some lighter specialty offerings on the side

[long finch]

Ideally with a can of Folgers on the counter 😝

[half badger]

Yeah, the market here isn't ready for a substance style cafe tbh. But I'm in talks for a space that I can utilize at a very affordable rate so I can do some nerdy coffee focused spot. Kinda weird hours, but it'll work. The plan (nothing in writing yet, will be talking more in coming weeks) is to do a few set days where I'm operating as a 'normal' cafe. But it'll only be pourover and drip. Maybe espresso made on flair too, but we'll see. And then 1x a week do a rsvp tasting, cupping or similar event. But that only works as a pop up kinda thing. (Again this is all theoretical until we sign something lol, but it seems very likely currently)

I've talked about it with Seth from numa. He had me over for coffee and we chatted about the coffee scene here and our thoughts on it. He loves what I'm trying to do, but agrees that it wouldn't even really work for what he does. He mostly serves milk based drinks tbh. When I worked at Sound and Fog, maybe 10% of our customers were coffee people. The rest wanted flavored lattes. We did company meetings and where he talked about his goals and whatnot. He flat out said that he relied on people who wanted Starbucks but wanted to support local to make money. The coffee stuff was just for people who were interested, but wasn't how he made money.

I have an idea for a proper cafe that would focus a bit on flavored drinks and whatnot. Attract a certain crowd that'll actually generate money. But also have an interesting coffee program. So I guess kinda similar to sound and Fog, but with sourcing from east Asian roasters. Still planning and don't really have the funding for it, but business is good so that may be the next step I take. Not ready for it yet though lol. Just manifesting this into reality it's guess

[torn prairie]

Super exciting to hear - looking forward to supporting!!

[jovial wharf]

Thanks for the delivery @half badger my other H&S order came in today as well. Tomorrow Sey Kenyan arrives.

[fair burrow]

Which Kenyan you get? 34 ended up being a top5 coffee of this year for me

[jovial wharf]

The gesha based on a chat I had with someone in Brian Quan's server.

[slim shale]

you still got the hydrangea el burro?

[jovial wharf]

Yup

[slim shale]

would be curious about them side to side

i have them both out rn but hs unrested 😢

[jovial wharf]

a second nice mail day just happened

[hollow oasis]

Eugenioides!

[jovial wharf]

Yup first time for me. Not exactly sure how I will brew it

Anyone have tips on brewing? I plan to blend like hydrangea suggests, but I'm assuming it's super easy to extract

[coarse imp]

Make a milk drink with it

[manic portal]

i think the guy who competed with it had a super low ratio like 1:12

idk if that’s good brew advice but there ya go

[jovial wharf]

hmmm alright. I'll give it a little time to rest and see what happens lol

[manic portal]

idk if hydrangea's roast is equivalent to the hypersoluble competition roasts. you could always try asking bill

[coarse imp]

hypersoluble lol

[manic portal]

well, it's not normal coal. i don't understand roasting enough to explain it but i've been told competition meta now is optimized for like brewing fresh and yeeting the brew

🤷‍♀️

hydrangea probably roasts coffee with a different goal like "make it taste good"

[jovial wharf]

Yeah, Bill said he'll have some recipes to share soonish, but said it will brew much like his other roasts.

he will be brewing it at expo, so he has to cook up a solid recipe

oh lol

[hasty imp]

Oh hi

Found ya

[jovial wharf]

Yep lol

[hasty imp]

It’s roasted the same way as how I would roast other coffee

It’s not roasted for competition

Similar profiles same drop temp dev time etc

[coarse imp]

how would you roast for competition

[hasty imp]

I have no idea I don’t compete

Probably similar development time but stretch the roast to be longer

So more sweetness and 🟫

[long finch]

Unfortunately I’ve woken up sick as the proverbial dog and will be staying away from today’s meetup 😦 Hope you all have a great time!

[rancid dome]

Hey sorry I just rsvp’d yesterday. Are you able to confirm online so I can view the details?

[icy zodiac]

Yes

All set

[rancid dome]

Got it - thank you!

[exotic horizon]

does anyone want a freshroast sr800

i dont use it anymore

[clear iron]

yes pls

i want more coal in my life

[half badger]

Anyone wanna split some of the sey copa de ora coffees with me? I want to cop, but don't want 250g of any of them lol

Was gonna get the Geraldo lopez, nemesio ramos and abelardo medina

[coarse imp]

Can I have 25g each?

[manic portal]

i’m down for 75-150g

[half badger]

Dope! I already bought them lol. Was hoping I'd find someone I'll let you know when they get here and we can split em

[half badger]

And I can probably part with an extra 25g if you really want

[coarse imp]

50g might be too much but I'm down

My backlog is exploding

[half badger]

Really just wanted to brew a few cups of each, so that might work out. Got a copa de ora from cc onw soon too. And I'm thinking of getting one from thankfully. Not that I need any of this coffee

[coarse imp]

Seriously, sey has been sending 50g bags but not for retail

[half badger]

I would buy a lot more sey if they sold 50g bags. Or even 125g. 250 is way too much. I don't think I've ever finished a bag from them

[coarse imp]

Same story for September

[manic portal]

good thing we're degenerate enough to make our own

[manic portal]

(happy birthday jacob, my present is enabling )

[coarse imp]

My present is taking some(tiny tiny portion) of your backlog

[slim shale]

wanted to ask the local people before putting on BST but is anyone interested in a batch 1 argos?

[robust socket]

I’m driving to the West side from my tiny town in central WA, anyone have recommendations near Mt Vernon?

[manic portal]

well, you could just keep going to bham

not sure if dorothea has a cafe but they’re the only specialty roaster i know in skagit

[robust socket]

Ooooo they do have a cafe

[robust socket]

Thank you!

Looks like pourover only but that’s my jam

[manic portal]

i’ve had their stuff in seattle. pretty regular american light but the sourcing is ok and honestly it’s above what i’d expect in skagit

[dawn shadow]

Spotted at the Bakke museum near LM in Ballard

[robust socket]

Fantastic rec

[robust socket]

Really tasty pourover. Better than anything we have in Wenatchee so I’m happy

[native jackal]

One last night at the Olive and Grape in Greenwood. A little baklava and Turkish coffee.

[long finch]

Baklava looks home made. I approve.

[native jackal]

It's very good. Although I prefer pistachio.

[jovial wharf]

Holy crap, Bill! I just tried the eugenoides blend and it was wild! Its like strawberry jam and a bit of wine. The finish is sweet and it's hard to put my finger on the exact note right now, but damn. This was an experience. Thanks for releasing this!

[hasty imp]

Ah you decide to pull the plug without the recipe blahahaha

[jovial wharf]

Yeah, I couldn't help myself. I've still got a couple more doses left

I followed the 4 pour recipe for the UFO with B3 filters and 90ºc water. Drawdown was maybe a tad fast (2:50) at 4.7 on the zp6, but it still tasted great.

[hasty imp]

i might steal this for expo

2:50 sounds like the right ball park

[half badger]

Yo! Got some coffee event news for anyone interested! Homage and I are doing a cupping next Monday of my Ilse collab. It's $10, but you get a 20g sample of the coffee for coming. Only a handful of spots available. They're also gonna be selling it as a pourover soonish if you don't wanna cup it lol

Coffea and Company is doing some free cuppings in May too. They're pretty cool if you don't follow them. They're a green buyer club for home roasters/smaller roasters. Haven't been to an event of theirs, but I'm gonna go to one of these!

Here's the info on their cuppings

I can post the link to rsvp if anyone's interested!

[fickle nexus]

Post it!

[half badger]

https://partiful.com/e/zhKQ8Nypyr2boD1udDOM

This is the Thursday one (I'll be at this one)

https://a1e0.engage.squarespace-mail.com/r?m=6807bdf8f6974075c8d150b3&u=https://partiful.com/e/nEaAGhZlaWbMRpMbHtDQ&w=672a6c56e91a9a41fe6bdb6d&c=b_67de12d209c18e1c544aa11e&l=en-US&s=FhnYrRfaMlf9npW5k7kDv0SOqKg=

This is the weekend one (I'm busy but looks fun)

[fickle nexus]

Where are they located?

[manic portal]

cupping at 5:30 on a weeknight is devilish behavior lol

[half badger]

Beacon hill!

They give you the full address when you rsvp, but it's by hilltop red apple. Pretty sure it's just out of a house currently

[long finch]

Near Costco

[long finch]

Totally down for that!

[civic peak]

Hi all! Laurence from Coffea & Company here 👋 thanks for the boost @half badger 😅

Cupping is at the house, as we don't exactly have a separate space. Small dog who will be in a bedroom the whole time.

We work generally on a buyers club model for green coffee -- we source, then cup with pro/side hustlers/home roasters to hang out and discuss, and if there is enough interest and volume, we facilitate a group buy. We've recently helped Kairu, Tanuki, Dorothea, and DV8 Coffee get some coffees for their programs. Would love to meet y'all https://www.instagram.com/coffea_and_company/

[half badger]

@manic portal just got the coffee from sey. If you still wanna split it, lemme know a good time to meet up for it!

[manic portal]

YEA

i'm free tomorrow if that works? also planning going to slowday on wed morning

this weekend also doable

[manic portal]

i also have funny chinese coffee for @coarse imp . is it about time for a meetup?

[coarse imp]

Hell ya

I too have some interesting coffee to share

[half badger]

I'm free tomorrow and Wednesday. I'll actually drop some coffees off at slow day on Wednesday lol. Just not sure what time

@spice pelican is gonna be in Japan until the 15th (I think lol correct me of I'm wrong). But she's gonna bring back some Japanese coffee for a meet up. So maybe after the 15th?

I'll have some good coffees coming in by then too. Nai zui, archers, maybe tnt depending on how fast shipping is lol

[manic portal]

if you're heading to slowday about ten or eleven let's sync up, otherwise maybe dm me and we'll figure out a spot tomorrow (i think i'm gonna be out and about)

[spice pelican]

I'll be back on the 15th yeah!

[long finch]

This looks rather interesting https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/meticulous-espresso#/

Robotic Flair 😛

[half badger]

Sounds good to me! I'll aim to be there around 10. And I can hang around if youre not there. Gotta cup some coffees with Izzy 🥄

[manic portal]

hell yeah

[half badger]

Gonna be there closer to 10:30. Running a bit late! If that doesn't work, we can meet up another day too 🙂

[manic portal]

i’m just chilling

gotta run by 11 but we’ll see what happens

[civic peak]

Hey folks 👋 Coffea & Company's got another (surprise!) cupping in May, with a wild lineup of coffees from Ratnagiri Estate in India for a potential group green buy.* The time has not been set just yet -- doing a poll on Partiful to figure out what time might work best for the most people (or if more than one cupping event is needed). Hope to meet some of you! *we've been known to provide one-off roasting of green lots, too, should there be requests 😅 https://partiful.com/e/iLRKQZaTdyTz23E6cd2s?

[half badger]

Apparently they're going to be serving archers pourovers at artly? That's definitely a direction I didn't expect the robot barista company to go in...

Kinda dope lol. Just not expected 😅

[civic peak]

Yeah, non-robot Joe Yang is pouring!

[delicate reef]

Hey everyone, newish to this discord and I am moving to Kirkland tomorrow! I was wondering if by chance anyone knows how the water quality for brewing is there. Google tells me super soft water, but thought I’d ask here too.

[native jackal]

From what I remember, all the water around here is pretty soft and clean.

Except where the water authority pumps it full of chlorine compounds.

[manic portal]

western washington water is generally very soft. kirkland and most of the eastside buy water from the seattle and tacoma water districts; seattle's is about 20 hardness and 20 alkalinity, while tacoma's can be a little harder (and varies more as they use more groundwater) but is going to be much softer than most places in the us

in terms of brewing, i'd say seattle tap is generally great, or good enough that mixing your own water is impractical, but it can occasionally interact badly with some coffees, especially darker roasts

[native jackal]

Definitely with the darker roasts. Switching from tap to distilled water made a pretty significant difference for my current daily driver, which is a medium-dark Ethiopia/Tanzania blend.

[coarse imp]

Still Seattle is surprisingly dark roast focus

[manic portal]

i saw an old barista competition article the other day where some guy was complaining about how you can't brew good coffee in seattle because the water is too soft

[long finch]

Pic from cupping. Thanks @civic peak and @half badger

[long finch]

Can’t give you the scientific answer that @manic portal did but I brought distilled to a meetup and we mixed in half a TWW packet and since then we’ve just been using tap or filtered. I’m in Bellevue and used filtered from my fridge. I brew everything from ultralight to coal.

If you want to do an A/B test, I still have some of the TWW packets and can bring to the next meetup.

[sour radish]

Used to work at a specialty coffee shop up in Everett. We have a 3 stage filtration system, 1 sediment and 2 carbon. Water in this area is already pretty much in line with the SCA’s standard for brewing, so we’re pretty lucky.
I’d still recommend at least a sediment and maybe a carbon filter just to pull out any toxins or solids.

[civic peak]

I've been doing A/Bs with/without PCW and filtered tap (South Seattle) for Aviary ultralights and can say that you can taste the difference. Extraction percentage doesn't go up by a whole lot, but you can taste the mineral addition and what it tends to bring -- a bit more sweetness and a mild acidity. For me, it makes the ultralights more to my taste as a lover of "expressive and juicy" roasts typically the mid-high 70s Agtron (aka lignite). For those roasts it makes less of a difference to me.

[manic portal]

i agree with laurence and just to add to/contextualize my earlier post - there’s a lot of value in water dialing but imo seattle tap is a perfectly good “base” water for pretty much anything light roasted

[half badger]

Anyone else get the new oxo rapid? It's pretty awesome lol. I'll bring it to the next meetup if anyone wants to try it

[fickle nexus]

is is like oxo's take on a aeropress?

[half badger]

I think that's kind of what it's being advertised as, but it's kind of like a robot/flair that can only make soup shots lol

[fickle nexus]

Definitely bring it and make soup lol

I’m thinking of hosting another meetup in 2 weeks if that’s appealing to anyone

[half badger]

I'm doing a cupping on the 18th. Maybe the 17th? 24/25th work for me too

And I will definitely bring my silly soup machine

[manic portal]

i gotta work on the 24th weekend

[jovial wharf]

I'm interested in this soup.

[delicate reef]

Thanks everyone for all the answers to my water question! Going to filter it with a Brita and get to brewing when all my coffee stuff arrives. Where I was in Florida had super hard water, so this is a nice change lol.

[manic portal]

brita will probably harden it actually. i wouldn't even bother unless you can perceive a problem

[delicate reef]

A brita filter would harden the water?

[manic portal]

yeah, most filters will add tds to water this soft

charcoal particles or whatever, i guess. no big deal but if your filter is adding stuff to pretty clean water, it feels against the point

[fickle nexus]

Anecdotally of course my brita takes my tap from 45 to 25, but that’s really just putting it back to where it should be

[manic portal]

mine does the exact opposite lol

[manic portal]

anyway it’s good water either way. don’t overthink it is my ideology

[delicate reef]

Guess I’ll have to bring out the coffee nerd in me and A/B test the filtered and unfiltered side by side lol. I appreciate all the insight from everyone. Coffee water is such a rabbit hole.

[half badger]

Just went to artly and the pourovers are honestly pretty great

They had 4 different coffees from archers. I think they're serving it at slu and cap hill. Had the lerida gesha and it was the best pourover I've had from a shop in a while

[coarse imp]

by robot?

[half badger]

No, by human!

[coarse imp]

do you know which lerida by any chance?

[half badger]

People brew the good coffee haha

[hollow oasis]

By Joe?

[half badger]

It was a honey mossto

[half badger]

Nah, but i met up with him after and he brewed me some coffee

[half badger]

It was all a bit funk leaning lol, but not too funky tbh

[half badger]

Did you bring him to the last meet up? I was telling him about this and he said he came lol. Loosely remembered him coming with you (could be misremembering though 😅)

[hollow oasis]

Yes, you are correct 😆

I told him about our meet up

[half badger]

Okay, glad i remembered it right when he told me he came, I realized that I had seen him before. But I think we only talked for a minute at the meet up. He didn't remember me either 😂

[hollow oasis]

wow, sounds great. Haven't try that yet, although I live next to Artly I must have a try this week

[half badger]

So last time I was delivering to you, I parked next to the artly and thought, what a stupid cafe. And then literally the next day I saw that they were carrying archers

Definitely ate my words haha. Pour over was pretty great. My wife had a pretty decent matcha there too

[upbeat meteor]

haha Joe def nailed the pour, I was there when he posted about different archers arriving. I usually run into him for a chat in the store on my way to work 😆

[coarse imp]

Guess I need to hit up artly

[half badger]

If anyone's free next Wednesday, I'll be doing a pop up with numa in driftwood from 8-2 🙂 gonna have ilse, archers, terraform, h & s and coffee county on deck. Might have some boogie 'reserve' coffee for anyone here who stops by. I'll also be serving soup on the silly oxo thing I got haha

[coarse imp]

👋 folks, wondering if there is any cafe/bar worth visiting in Leavenworth

Will be spending my weekend there next week and I’m not sure if I want to bring my aeropress with me

[manic portal]

i think there's one or two places serving olympia

but i'd just bring it anyway. coffee that you don't have to exit the house for is true luxury

[long finch]

I’m trying regain access to the Marketplace and apparently that’s contingent upon posting, so here we go.

You can enjoy a pic of the lightest roast I saw at Starbucks Reserve yesterday (don’t ask…) I did not try it, or anything else.

[fickle nexus]

I don’t know it it’s real but the pneumatics they have going on in there are so cool

I’ve been wanting to go back for a while and pass by it every day, but I can’t bring myself to break past the wall of tourists taking photos lol

[sour radish]

It’s insane to me that Starbucks buys these insane lots of coffee and just roasts them to oblivion. You’d think they would have stopped when they stopped showing up to SCA Expo’s and thus sort of separating themselves from specialty.

[long finch]

To be fair, it is lighter in color than the others. On the other hand, that’s not saying much.

[manic portal]

i wonder if at sbux scale they have to buy nice coffee to keep a good relationship with producers, the opposite of how specialty buyers might buy ok coffee to support/access nicer lots

[sour radish]

Probably more related to optics than anything. They own most of the coffee farms they source from.

[dawn shadow]

I heard the big Anheuser-Busch breweries still produce small lots of craft beers. Just fun projects to keep the brewers busy and interested in it

That's probably it. Get you a roaster who can do both mentality

[spice pelican]

I'm back in town with a bunch of coffee from Japan 🌞

[half badger]

So... when should we do a meet up? @fickle nexus

[dawn shadow]

I'm down for this or next weekend.

[fickle nexus]

Oh yeah let’s get a vote together

Vote for multiple dates if you want

[coarse imp]

Anyone want to split intelli takussy?👀

[manic portal]

rumor is prodigal is going to get it

imagine an actually light roasted takesi

[coarse imp]

Intelli takesi from last year was not dark but my taste might have shifted

[manic portal]

iirc it was ok roast but darker than sey (though that was also the sey dark era)

green was good enough to carry tho for sure

[coarse imp]

Totally, you can def still taste the hallmark takesi notes

[manic portal]

tbh i think takesi might be the only name brand producer i'm still interested in

[coarse imp]

Mostly because it’s still rare no

[manic portal]

v possible

[coarse imp]

I’m getting it anyways so if anyone is interested, just LMK

BTW I’m still splitting the hydrangea yunnan set@manic portal

If you have not finished them all

[manic portal]

yeah!

i have your portion bagged and ready

[coarse imp]

Gotta tasted hyped yunnan coffee

[manic portal]

i think i'm not making this next meetup. want to meet up and hand over, or should i pop em in the freezer?

they're pretty good. the naturals are a lil natural but the washed are shockingly non-wood

[coarse imp]

Can do a short meetup and handover

I’m out of the town this weekends but can do weekdays next week

[manic portal]

wed morning and fri work best for me

if you want to hit slowday or something

[coarse imp]

How early in the morning

[manic portal]

or that robot place that has archers? i haven't been yet