transdome

[grand hearth]

:3 ‼️

[zinc oriole]

I loooove body transformation tropes and trans character intersections yayyy

[sturdy trail]

dentist offices r the last frontier of businesses that are allowed to be one old guy boss and a hundred hot girl employees

[zinc oriole]

The dentist himself (one of them( wasn't that old but he was cool

He seemed eccentric and excited

He was like yep! You definitely need em out!! (I was there bc of my wisdom teeth/needed to know if they were coming in

[visual sun]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/151120451014230017/1137975358457651351/Screenshot_20230806_175346.jpg

@random rain are you in this thread yet

[valid sun]

im going to the dentist tomorrow 🏳️‍⚧️

i get a free filler redo bc they fucked mine up a year ago apparently

ive never had braces and one cavity ✌️

[outer meteor]

he and kim are sooo t4t

[zinc oriole]

dentist timeeee 🦷

Why are messed up fillings so common

[visual sun]

2:30

[zinc oriole]

I've never had one but may need one

[valid sun]

idk tbh

ive been to rhe dentist like a total of 5 times so i didnt know it was messed up

and then they tried flossing it and said Hm why isnt this going through and i was like idk is that not normal

and they were like Oh your dentist fuckrf it up. We'll give her ONE more try at it...

[outer meteor]

thinking of using butch as an identifier (i am a nonbinary trans guy) (im like bisexual or something)
because im constantly thinking that i was built to be butch but they made me a trans guy
it doesn't make much sense but fuck gender?

[digital geyser]

any uk ppl, do you know if you can choose the gender clinic you want to be referred to

[tardy creek]

@digital geyser has leveled up! (13 ➜ 14)

[inner plume]

nothing makes sense do what you want yo butch trans guys are awesome

[zinc oriole]

Butch used to be considered a gender neutral term back in the earlier lgbt movement so u can totally use it for yourself

Butch just means masc. It isn't exclusive to lesbians

For example leathermen would use it

There are some lesbian exclusive terms, like stone butch and stud (stud is also exclusively used for non white lesbians) but butch is generally neutral, just like how femme/fem is

Gender is what u make of it have fun! Use whatever labels you connect with

[grand hearth]

Saw a new psych provider for med management today, and she’s super nice

Asked what pronouns i use after seeing that I’m on HRT and she said she has a trans daughter 😊

[outer meteor]

i appreciate the support thanks :3

[outer meteor]

nice :3

[sturdy trail]

i fully support trans guy lesbians and stone butch trans guys

and bi stone butches or bi lesbians or straight lesbians or any other combination

people should go ham

[grand hearth]

Imo people split hairs over categorization way too much, just identify as whatever tha fuck!!!!

Have seen discourse over how people identify quite a bit and it depresses me every time

[austere jay]

i love strange personal identification

what a sad sad world we would live in if everyone just fit into a few categories

[valid sun]

so true

[vapid dune]

Me injecting E

[frozen breach]

ppl will lose their shit over others having weird labels or identities and I'm like hmmmm it's almost like human existence is way more complicated than the tiny boxes and labels we use to try and understand it

[frozen breach]

REAL

one time I was flicking my T syringe to get the bubbles out and I flicked it so hard the needle came off 😭

[grand hearth]

Had the hardest time figuring out how to properly inject T at the right dose lmfao

tbf it was the first time I did it

[frozen breach]

the pharmacy gave me a different kind of needle than usual this time and it took me way too long to figure it out

[vapid dune]

Injection homies let’s gooo 😎

[vapid dune]

Yea they gave my gf a needle too thin to draw the E so her first few times were miserable

[grand hearth]

was she using an intramuscular injection needle for subcu? Or is it the other way around?

[frozen breach]

subcu is thinner I think

[vapid dune]

Nah it’s not the injection needle, the draw needle was too thin to draw the liquid into the syringe

[grand hearth]

OH I see I seee

[frozen breach]

idk about E but I know T is technically "supposed" to be done intramuscular so I've had a difficult time drawing it up with subcu needles

[frozen breach]

y'all are using different draw and injection needles??? 💀

[grand hearth]

I was told to do subcu but I think it’s cuz mine’s a low dose

[visual sun]

injection squad

[frozen breach]

injections helped me get over my fear of needles I think

still jelly that y'all can take estrogen as a pill but there's no testosterone pills

[vapid dune]

Isn’t that the norm? I do subcutaneous and the draw needle is 18 gauge, injection is 25

[visual sun]

same

[frozen breach]

my pharmacy has only ever given me one size of needle and my provider told me I can use the same needle for drawing and injections so idk

[grand hearth]

I think I was given needles with all the same gauge in my package

[visual sun]

EV is thick

i think T is thinner

[grand hearth]

huh that tracks I think

Testosterone cypionate did not seem thick to me

[frozen breach]

yeah it's not super thick but it's still a bit tough to draw up

[grand hearth]

it was a challenging experience following the draw instructions a bit lol

doing the whole…inject air into bottle then flip bottle upside down and draw presented some difficulty

[frozen breach]

yeah that part is weird

ima be honest, I've forgotten to draw up the air before and haven't noticed a big difference

[grand hearth]

I’m not even sure what it’s supposed to do!

I think it maybe primes the plunger?????

[frozen breach]

yeah maybe

[visual sun]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pz49hyOla6s

[outer meteor]

YEAH!!!!!!!

[outer meteor]

they never told@me@to do that

[vapid dune]

God identifying as whatever the fuck you feel and not caring about any of the stupid rules about categorization is so fucking b word

[frozen breach]

b*sed as hell

[vapid dune]

I don’t even use many labels on myself but I just say I’m nonbiney but if people ask for more in depth. Idk I’m agender and just say I’m lesbian cus I GENERALLY prefer girls although I do like dudes depending if the vibe is right but heck I just feel that term suits me best

[grand hearth]

yeah the air thing isn’t super necessary afaik it just seems like it may make the syringe move more smoothly

[visual sun]

i injected at high altitude once

all the air that was already in the vial wanted to shoot out lmao

[outer meteor]

hell yea

[frozen breach]

yeah I don't use too many labels either but I know people who use "weird" or "contradictory" labels because it feels comfy for them and its so fucking cool

[chrome snow]

Pre-existing labels can help people identify themselves, but at the end of the day, it's all personal.

People cannot be narrowly defined by just labels.

[visual sun]

i'm some kind of girl creature

[unborn atlas]

if bi lesbians exist then pan heterosexuals must exist as well

[tardy creek]

@unborn atlas has leveled up! (57 ➜ 58)

[chrome snow]

At this point, I'm not really even sure what I am.

[unborn atlas]

haha yeah up top 🖐️

[chrome snow]

I am the equivalent of a modern-day caveperson.

[visual sun]

🤘

[unborn atlas]

you're jjjosie

[chrome snow]

Yeeeed

:>

[visual sun]

i am the f-slur and also a girl

[unborn atlas]

I'm a benign monster

and a profaned goddex

[grand hearth]

I’m some kinda guything monster beast

[unborn atlas]

mad scientist 😌

[grand hearth]

yeas!

[frozen breach]

once when I was really high I was talking about gender and I said "I'm a guy, but like, I get a lil silly with it sometimes" and I think that's actually really accurate

my gender is literally silly little guy

[empty goblet]

yea i used to id as an agender lesbian as well but now i id as a femme of center genderqueer bisexual

i dont really say this out loud though

my identity and expression is for myself and i dont really care about involving ppl unless i want to

[vapid dune]

Heck yea sweets u get me

[unborn atlas]

I can break my gender into a paragraph of neologisms but I mostly just say I'm a woman

[sturdy trail]

neologisms 👎

[frozen breach]

real real real

[empty goblet]

jokes on u i dont know what this means

[vapid dune]

???

[sturdy trail]

like new made up words

neo meaning new logism meaning word

cuz latin roots

[grand hearth]

neologisms are fine

language evolves and changes over time so of course there's going to be new words

the concept of gender is also evolving

[sturdy trail]

well i mean neologism in this context

tbh i don't think gender as a concept has evolved any

it's pretty much stagnated post aids crisis

[grand hearth]

don't understand the negativity

if zenoby has some nuance surrounding her gender and she might find that it can be described in new words that may be considered "made up" (all words are made up so idk) then that's perfectly fine, it's really not an issue

[unborn atlas]

feesh's absolutism rubs me the wrong way so I mostly ignore it

the operative word here was can

[spice sphinx]

Uh oh

[unborn atlas]

I have the language to granulate my gender into a paragraph, doesn't mean I always do that

[spice sphinx]

Something malicious is brewing

[unborn atlas]

it's an ability that's mostly only useful in queer spaces anyway

[sturdy trail]

ya

i wouldn't call what i think negativity or absolutism

[unborn atlas]

I was being polite

[sturdy trail]

🤨

[unborn atlas]

I just don't think we agree on much

I'd like that to be a neutral thing but I do apologize if my bluntness about it is rude

I'm not very good at tone

I can see sweets typing and I'm fearing for my life

[sturdy trail]

i feel like of all the people in here u r on the i tend to agree with more side but also differing views ya

[empty goblet]

LOL

;~;

i honestly was tabbed out

i dont really have anything good to contribute here

[urban solstice]

I'm convinced transphobes are single cell organisms

Anyways trans rights RAAH🗣️🗣️🦅🦅🏳️‍⚧️

[unborn atlas]

I think transphobia is a learned trait

[outer meteor]

🏳️‍⚧️🏳️‍⚧️🏳️‍⚧️🏳️‍⚧️🏳️‍⚧️

100%

i met this little kid a couple weeks ago and this older lady and she called me "she" in front of him and i was like "actually it's he" and the kid was totally accepting of it, didn't question it at all, and used he/him for me the rest of the time we were together :3

[empty goblet]

i mean i think genders always been complex and idk if it has evolved but also i cant speak for everyones experience but like i think someone way before my time can have the same complex experiences i have

[urban solstice]

I'm not transgender myself but y'all are super cool❗ also that's a rlly cute story

[empty goblet]

or comparable experiences

a lot of people havent had good language to externalize these feelings even in recent generations

[urban solstice]

Honestly I'm not sure why we are going backwards and why homophobia is becoming normalized

[sturdy trail]

capitalisme

[empty goblet]

that being said, i dont think that is directly relevant to what yall are talking about

so yeah idk if im adding anything useful to the conversation

[unborn atlas]

I like using flowery language to describe the ambient state that hangs over and marbles through my presentation

[empty goblet]

its because trans people make up a small percentage of the populaiton so they are easy to lampoon

there are a lot more conservatives than there are trans people

[unborn atlas]

I am wary of being marketed towards or having trans culture flattened into a "demographic" and sold back to us but also who care trans pin made by an Etsy shop 20 dollars who care

[urban solstice]

True, more easy to unite people against each other then actually solve problems

[empty goblet]

people love to have a common enemy especially one that is different, lesser in population, and therefore "unable to defend itself"

[unborn atlas]

no war but class war etc

they always get so close to realising the enemy is the predator class and their ideology but those people have spin doctors that redirect that tension into unrelated minority outgroups

[vapid dune]

I think people’s gender experience is different now as we have become a bit more open about it as a society and people should be free to describe their particular experience with it in their own way. That’s the beauty of the human experience, we’re unique bundles of our own qualities and experiences so it’s perfectly valid to have people have a complex expression of it, and yes even with neologisms. They’re perfectly valid

[sturdy trail]

i don't think being more visible has changed anything for the better and i'm not saying people shouldn't be free to do that and i'm not a big fan of validity politics

fuck validity we r all invalid under cisheteropatriarchy and we love that etc

[vapid dune]

You have some of the takes of all time

[sturdy trail]

expand horizon

[unborn atlas]

yeah I always found "validity" to be kind of limp and incomplete but also I learned that telling somebody off for trying to comfort you doesn't make you popular at parties

[spice sphinx]

I think sometimes you guys take slights against things you tangentially believe in to be slights against yourself

Why so passive aggressive

[unborn atlas]

I'm old and I gotta put up with the background radiation of gender advances that I straight up do not understand but also recognise that they go bigger than me and my personal comfort

we're trying to understand each other while also sticking to our guns I guess

[vapid dune]

This

[unborn atlas]

a big part of socializing is pretending the other person hasn't just said the dumbest thing you've ever heard even if that's what you think

that's called manners, or something

[spice sphinx]

Dawg 😭

[vapid dune]

Tbh I don’t get bothered by people and their unusual takes I’m pretty hard to annoy I just want all my trans siblings to feel comfy in their skin and have their expression feel valid because it’s often the only shit keeping us in this reality

[unborn atlas]

let's all just conduct ourselves with narcissistic confidence and let the loudest conversations win instead /j

personally I do want to move away from the rainbow capitalist sentiments of "love" and "being yourself" and realize that true self actualisation is a tangible threat to hegemony

[spice sphinx]

Yes

[unborn atlas]

but I'm also mentally ill and isolated so I have to settle for extreme rhetoric

[sturdy trail]

ya

[unborn atlas]

in lieu of real community

[visual sun]

https://tenor.com/view/twin-peaks-fire-walk-with-gif-9672236

I’m a devil and an angel

[sturdy trail]

i feel like if u say feesh don't have a bad take challenge u r at least bothered a little bit

[unborn atlas]

what can I say, you can be very bothersome

[sturdy trail]

[vapid dune]

I’m not you’re just funny tbh I like u that way

[unborn atlas]

but so am I

[sturdy trail]

i at least prefer that over insincere "all my trans siblings"

[sturdy trail]

🤨

[vapid dune]

It is sincere but ok

[unborn atlas]

I do feel a degree of kinship with trans people

even if I hate them

[grand hearth]

kind of odd to call that unsincere

[unborn atlas]

we got something in common

we're kin we're comrades

[sturdy trail]

if u want to be siblings with me don't be passive aggressive 👍

[unborn atlas]

what are you talking about that's the quintessential sibling experience

[unborn atlas]

I've also tried being flatly blunt and that was insufficient

I think you just don't want people to disagree with you

[sturdy trail]

i've said the contrary multiple times

[unborn atlas]

well okay telling somebody that their sincere but flowery rhetoric is insincere is off base

[vapid dune]

Well I disagree with you on a lot but I still respect you

I just like messing with ya tbh

[sturdy trail]

i don't like being messed with

as most people

[unborn atlas]

brotherhood is living with somebody you don't really like but you're stuck with them so you have to get along

[sturdy trail]

i'm not stuck with them tho

i don't like this roleplay stuff

[vapid dune]

No one is roleplaying

[unborn atlas]

brotherhood is getting attacked with a knife /hs

[sturdy trail]

i'm not ur little brother to mess around with i barely know u

[unborn atlas]

I was the one who mentioned brotherhood as a purely metaphorical abstraction

ya tone's borked

this is a communication breakdown

and a lot of words for "we don't completely agree with all of your hot takes but we're still a team"

[sturdy trail]

this is where i differ because i don't feel a connection with most trans people from my experiences

[bronze ocean]

same lol

[unborn atlas]

I don't feel connections with most people but if somebody's trans I can at least expect them to be running similar software

we're all painted with the same brush by our oppressors and that alone should unite us

semantics can only take us so far

[sturdy trail]

it should but it often doesn't

[unborn atlas]

who care

strive

[sturdy trail]

ideally

[outer meteor]

i think it's gotten both better and worse as being transgender is something that more people know about
it's harder to be stealth yea
and it's different in every region
but you can access the means to medically transition legally in some places now
but ofc increased visibility = increased hate as well
but also like if being trans wasn't as well known of a thing as it is now i would still be an egg and vaguely unhappy the rest of my life

[grand hearth]

i think i connect with the trans people here, but i'm always going to be different because people are individuals, which is totally fine

i do feel a sense of solidarity with other queer people in general 🤷

idk it's hard not to feel some sense of relatability for me

[unborn atlas]

reacting to anodyne unity by becoming a trans isolationist /j

log cabin republicans and death fortress transsexuals

[outer meteor]

another opinion i have is that being not straight inherently gives you a strange relationship with gender because a lot of cisheteronormative gender roles are tied in with being straight
eg. being a man = being masculine and strong and getting girls
and being a woman = being feminine and caring and having big boobs or whatever so men will like you

eg. once my mom asked me why i painted my nails because i "wanted to be a boy", i told her "lots of boys paint their nails", she said "i mean real boys"

[unborn atlas]

I think being exposed to the full spectrum of the binary by virtue of exploring it through transition kind of takes the bite out of it

[outer meteor]

wdym?

[unborn atlas]

Lily Alexandre did a video about if binary trans people even exist that I should watch again

[sturdy trail]

good vidya

[unborn atlas]

it's an inflammatory title for a nuanced view

[unborn atlas]

I've been a man and a woman and now I give less of a shit

[grand hearth]

my mom asked me a while back if i was a "lesbian instead of a girl" because it made it easier to date (somehow related to my weight)

[unborn atlas]

oh lol that shit is so funny to me

as if "realness" was something so selective

[outer meteor]

that makes sense

i love genderfuckery

[unborn atlas]

if a cis man can abandon their maleness by painting their nails, I have no idea why these same people have such an issue accepting trans people

[urban solstice]

Gender roles are dumb

[unborn atlas]

if you paint your nails you're not male but if you undergo years of therapy and chemical alteration you're still exactly the same you can't change it 😌

[vapid dune]

If there’s anything we as all trans people have in common. It’s that we’re silly and :3 freely and without any care

Trans*

[outer meteor]

the same thing happened when i got a crop top and she said guys don't wear crop tops and i showed her a bunch of pictures of guys wearing crop tops and she was like "but those guys are all gay"

[vapid dune]

Idk why I put cis

[outer meteor]

literallyyyy

[grand hearth]

crying

[outer meteor]

it's all hypocrisy

[unborn atlas]

cis people are very passionate about a subject that they only have a surface level understanding of

by virtue of accepting it uncritically

anyway listen to trans day of revenge

they told us that we're girls

anyway

[outer meteor]

is that a song?

[unborn atlas]

album

hold on you're one of today's lucky 10000

[outer meteor]

link 👉👈?

yay

[unborn atlas]

actually it was their demo I was thinking of

https://girlslivingoutsidesocietysshit.bandcamp.com

but this is the most punk a band can be

[outer meteor]

oh i know gloss!

also i have a question can you listen to songs unlimited on bandcamp without buying them

[misty harness]

depends on the release

[unborn atlas]

iunno

[misty harness]

its a setting artists can change

iirc

[outer meteor]

i bought an album on bandcamp like once because i was burning a cd of a tiny artist and felt bad not giving them any money for it

btw listen to heart together they're so good

[outer meteor]

ok cool

i actually made this playlist a while back if anyones interested
https://open.spotify.com/playlist/5gfn24kQjLoRs8A2ik3MDl?si=Hh9RfeiZRuqv98V1DlFZEg

[digital geyser]

https://open.spotify.com/track/4zcmIKqbkbqcjxuDA42Dgm?si=a7dd4b2b5e374d60 you might appreciate this track

[sturdy trail]

monstercat brostep is not what i expected

[unborn atlas]

good, but a proposition: needs more Deli Girls and backxwash

[grand hearth]

👀 didja see my playlist yet I can’t rember

[outer meteor]

i can't remember either, send it :3

[outer meteor]

huh

[grand hearth]

https://open.spotify.com/playlist/0gbA4Y4AbvltjjPCFegtyi?si=a69cf42e98b14d3d

it's more like vibes than explicitly transmasc in general

[unborn atlas]

I got a playlist that's based on my fursona

that's connected to gender somehow

[outer meteor]

ooooo

[unborn atlas]

fursona as ideal self

type beat

https://open.spotify.com/playlist/713Lku37jLSh0MOqs1KbeE

[vapid dune]

I rly should do the same cus my fursona is basically just my idea of my gender expression. That’s why I like it when people draw it different every time, I like being a bit different to everyone in how they perceive me

[outer meteor]

do you have any specific deli girls recs? i don't listen to them
or backxwash too i only know a few songs by them

[unborn atlas]

listen to Boss

Dick Hurt hits like a bomb

personally, listen to the songs you're gonna put in there

[vapid dune]

A personal favorite by backxwash is nyama off her latest album

[outer meteor]

ooo dick hurt is really good

[spice sphinx]

look I'm just saying when the apocalypse hits me and mine are taking over an ikea and obliterating anyone who steps within a 20 miles radius

[unborn atlas]

I'm in Australia so we're already there, catch up 🚬

[vapid dune]

If you live in the west coast you should check out one of their shows with the garden, deli girls goes so fucking hard live

Would have maybe been my favorite show ever if the crowd had actually fucking moshed

But no. My favorite show is still the one that zenoby was at

Cus it was lightning bolt and the pit was good, but zenoby being there was nice too

[unborn atlas]

I'm sorry I'm so weak

speaking of

[vapid dune]

What up

Yea I remmeber that video u took!!! Fucking rad show

I hope I see them at least once or twice more before they quit

[outer meteor]

they aren't coming to my city 😔

[vapid dune]

If u live in LA do attend this show. Fucking goated lineup

[unborn atlas]

what up transindividuals I have a mango loco

[vapid dune]

Isn’t that an Arizona flavor

[unborn atlas]

monster

[vapid dune]

I like mango a lot but artificial mango makes me feel sick

Back when I still drank and early on into my drinking habits I bought a bottle of 1800 mixed with mango. Tasted fucking disgusting it had an eggy flavor to it

[unborn atlas]

yucky

anyway I'm gonna chug this and do a bunch of weed and get really scared!

[vapid dune]

Mood. Have fun goat

[digital geyser]

mango loco is one of the best monster flavours

[grand hearth]

looking up shit about testosterone hrt is frustrating because most of the results are for cis men who have supposed low T

low testosterone is such a strange issue to me because u never really see a lot of stuff marketed towards women being low on estrogen

[vapid dune]

You do. Cus the reverse is true when looking for feminine HRT

Menopausal women have an issue with low estrogen

[unborn atlas]

the transfemme experience is reading "soy milk DRASTICALLY lowers T and raises E!!!!" and going "is that truuuuue?"

[vapid dune]

And take estradiol

[vapid dune]

Can’t say I didn’t bite into that theory and consume far more soy products pre transition

[grand hearth]

i think the thing that gets me is that men having lower testosterone is viewed as such a negative thing in comparison with menopause at least from my experience

u wanna be SEXIER??? u wanna GET CHIX???? u gotta GET MORE TESTOSTERONE

[outer meteor]

my dad's gf microdoses t i forget why

[frozen breach]

the few cishet male friends I have have invariably reacted to me coming out by saying "WOAH that means you take testosterone?? like steroids basically??? you're like the manliest guydudeboyman ever bro!!!!!"

they a lil confused but they got the spirit

[grand hearth]

lmfaooo

[outer meteor]

my dad wanted some of my testosterone

[unborn atlas]

I did that with E so uh skill issue I guess

[grand hearth]

real

[austere jay]

you’re supposed too!!!! please!!!!!

in my experience it’s so much harder and scarier to use the inject needle for filling since it usually dulls it out

[grand hearth]

yes exactly

i use one for draw one to inject

they're just the same gauge

[austere jay]

i use big ass needle for draw and tiny little guy for inject

i’m a subq warrior

[grand hearth]

samee

[austere jay]

also putting my two cents in, when i say all trans people are my siblings it’s less literal in the “i’m bonded to every trans person and i love all of them like siblings” it’s more like the state of us all being trans is uniting, even if it doesn’t feel like that outwardly. there’s a base level of relating experiences and what we’ve all had to go through/struggle with that to me is comforting as it makes me feel like i’m part of something bigger

basically trans people are to me one giant organism and while we all interact with each other and the world differently we are still part of one another. if that makes any sense

[grand hearth]

yea I get that

[austere jay]

i also just fucking love trans people and i like being in community with other trans people so it’s rewarding to me feel like i can say all trans people are my siblings. it’s a very hopeful and emotionally impactful thing for me

at the end of the day, even when i feel alone, there’s a web of trans people out there who understand and have compassion for what i’m going through, as i do for them. community fucking rocks

[strong heath]

what does this feel like

as someone who is not on e i do not understand the bit. is this a good or bad thing

[vapid dune]

Like nothing tbh injecting air bubbles can just form bumps under your skin if I’m correct

So you’re not supposed to

And it also hurts a bit more

[strong heath]

:0

[zinc oriole]

It can be dangerous

[strong heath]

yeah that deosnt soudn fun

[zinc oriole]

If an air bubble enters your blood vessel you could need to go to the hospital or be injured bc interference with blood flow

If a TINY one happens it's ok but it can be serious if it's large

[strong heath]

shit that is not good

:0

[zinc oriole]

Back when I did injections guys on T would be so scared abt it to me they'd be like Triple Check !!!!! No air bubbles!

I've had one once that was a little less than small and it hurt for awhile

[strong heath]

when i finally get on e theres no way im doing it other than pills

needles r just too scary

and patches just dont feel trustworthy etc etc

also :estrogen:

[unborn atlas]

I was on patches and spiro for a while

it sucked!

but it got the job done

[austere jay]

i need to find scarier and cooler ways to take hrt

i need to smoke hrt out of a bong!!!! wizard style!!

[strong heath]

TRUE !!!

[vapid dune]

Drain another transmasc or cis guy of their blood until you’ve had your fill of testosterone from their blood

[austere jay]

preying upon cis men at night vampire style and stealing their t

genius

[unborn atlas]

I wanna take HRT like Bane

like with a dial on my wrist

that I can crank with a big valve

[vapid dune]

Be covered in tubes full of estrogen implanted on your back that you can dump on command into your body for a spike in power

[visual sun]

EV is great recommend 1000

[unborn atlas]

yeah dude yeah

[austere jay]

reminds me how sometimes being trans makes me feel like a lab experiment floating in a cryotube of t (positive experience)

[chrome snow]

Literally estrogen bane.

[unborn atlas]

what would estrogen bane look like when she activates it

like

she wouldn't get huge and buff, surely

[valid sun]

yeah i havent done this either LOL idk

i use a 25 gauge for drawing and injection

subq

i havent had issues esp not recently but always ALWAYS clean the surface of ur injection site, the bottle and your hands

with isopropyl alcohol

[visual sun]

She would turn into Jessica Rabbit

[unborn atlas]

u rite

[fiery tendon]

nyama is such a good somg

[grand hearth]

Letting my body hair grow out, i used to shave pits and legs rather consistently but now i think I’ll just see what happens

[sturdy trail]

i need ass hair

[austere jay]

ass hair is freeing

thank you testosterone

body hair growth was one of the most validating things for me about t

and voice

[unborn atlas]

i luv t voice

[grand hearth]

This girl i knew in high school seemed rly like, idk. I think she had a bit of internalized homophobia/transphobia because she came out as trans maybe a couple years ago but had said some pretty shit things to me before that. Anyway somehow the fact that i had a tumblr came up and her instant reaction was something like “zomg are you a tumblr SJW?????? Are u gonna dye your armpit hair????????”

I find myself thinking about it a lot when i notice my armpit hair starting to grow long and it pisses me the fuck off.

I’ve reached a point where I’m like “yeah maybe I WILL dye my armpit hair, i don’t care what you think you dumb fuck” but she made me self-conscious about a lot of things as a teenager for no damn reason

[frozen breach]

the validation and euphoria from getting ass hair on t vs the absolute sensory nightmare it causes for me

[bright bane]

Bruh i hate when i talk abt wanting to go on hormones and a cis man who looks like a failed lab experiment chimes in with that "don't go on T it'll make you ugly.."

Umm... worry abt yourself. Invest in a mirror 😇

One time i mentioned hrt around my uncle and he pulled that shit, as well as "bbbut you'll stink more and.. oily face umm acne" oh no.. minor inconveniences

[bronze ocean]

as evidenced by only this thread the stinking more thing is really not an issue

a big thing about that is the kinda guys who juice are like doing way too fucking much

[timid grail]

many cis men forget the concepts ‘showering’ and ‘using deodorant’

[bronze ocean]

def true but high testosterone will definitely make ur bo more pungent overall

[sturdy trail]

more for me

[bronze ocean]

real!!

[timid grail]

ya i think for me if anything it just made me need to apply deodorant more often bc i just sweat it off but i also just genetics wise don’t have especially strong bo even after t

[bronze ocean]

i did and most deodorants just straight up did not work

such a shame

i was so engrossed in hygiene culture

but now looking back

i had grade A boystink

punching the fucking air...

[timid grail]

lmaoooo

[bronze ocean]

no like literally i was such a fucking pretty boy

i was just so dysphoric i couldnt enjoy it

[timid grail]

im living the pretty boy life rn

i had a small phase as a baby trans guy where i was scared that taking care of myself would make me not pass 😭 but that was nearly 10 years ago

now idgaf but i definitely had an era where i analyzed literally everything i did to make sure it wasn’t too feminine so people would take me seriously which is a shitty thing to put urself through (and also be put through i guess bc it wasn’t really for no reason)

[bronze ocean]

i think generally speaking a lot more cis guys are like doing more stuff like skincare and everything

idk if y'all remember metrosexual as a term

but god that must've been fucking hellish to come out as a guy in that time

[timid grail]

NOT METROSEXUAL

good god i forgot about that term

yeah im glad skincare and stuff is becoming more widely accepted as a thing for everyone including men to do bc i personally find skincare to be a fun way to take care of myself

[bronze ocean]

i like having a little ritual for waking up and going to sleep

my routine isnt even that complicated its just nice

but like you're much less likely to get clocked for like, doing that kinda stuff

but then again there's so many cis guys who just have fucking immaculate skin for no good reason

[timid grail]

it’s a good ritual especially since i take t gel it’s good for me to have that routine so 1. that i’ll actually do it every night and 2 so i don’t let my arms get all dried out since i try to moisturize my body too

[bronze ocean]

in my experience as a former high t "male" you either have the pizzaest face or the most fucking beautiful skin and you just rinse it with cold water and its NOT FUKCING FAIR

[sturdy trail]

guys with pizza faces r cute

[bronze ocean]

go back in time and hit my line

[sturdy trail]

beard care is f slur

[bronze ocean]

yes (positive)

[timid grail]

my bf is one of those people he has like. perfect skin no acne ever genetics sure are something

[sturdy trail]

they putting mascara brushes on their beards

[bronze ocean]

i think a lot of guys don't actually think about what facial hair style would look good on them

but the ones who do

hmmm

[timid grail]

yknow one of the only things i haven’t gotten from t is facial hair i have a middle school boy level mustache that i shave but its not a problem for me because i dont want facial hair personally. also not surprised because my dad can barely grow facial hair

he had to grow his beard for 6 years for it to even just stop being patchy but it’s not even long lmao

[visual sun]

Same 😵‍💫

[zinc oriole]

Minoxidil has helped my facial hair grow in a bit less patchy

Though it does make me break out a bit if I'm not careful

[austere jay]

t turned me simple i don’t think the same as before t all i really want to do is have a coors and a marlboro red and talk about cars

i also don’t feel like i have the stereotypical “t voice” but i do catch myself falling into it sometimes

voice training in my youth helped

[austere jay]

do you have any minoxidil advice i’d like to start but am unsure how to

really want some scruff

[sturdy trail]

i get the kirkland brand and just drop it on my cheeks and rub

but also it deadly toxic for cats

[visual sun]

I have a t voice lmao

Tgirl voice

[zinc oriole]

I get the brand hims, not the foaming one or the shampoo though! It's 14 bucks and lasts like a month

U either drop it on your head or put it on your hands and rub it on your scalp or wherever u want hair. I do like 2 drops on my hands and rub it onto my chin for facial hair

[grand hearth]

have y’all been on T long enough to know if you’re experiencing hair loss? I’m kinda worried about it

I think my hair will be fine because it’s a low dose and my dad’s hair loss is really slow but idk I’m just kinda paranoid or smth

[zinc oriole]

If you have thick hair you will most likely be fine

Your hairline will recede a bit but its just the shape rather than the amount of hair

[grand hearth]

mines a bit thick yeah

I’m prepared to accept it if my hair thins out a lot! but I think I’ll be fine overall

[zinc oriole]

It'll only be thin if you have a lot of balding in your family

Even then it doesn't always happen!

[grand hearth]

yeaaa I think I really don’t

even my grandpa (dad’s side) still has quite a bit of hair

[zinc oriole]

In my family hair loss from stress happens so that happened to me for a bit. And still does

But minoxidil has it back in a healthier place

[bronze ocean]

yeah balding is mostly genetic

but also male pattern baldness is of course influenced by DHT

androgenic alopecia or whatever

and stress of course, but that's a different hair loss pattern and is most often reversible

all the men in my dad's family are bald so i started balding pretty early too 😔

but estrogen stopped it 🫡

[grand hearth]

noted noted

[bronze ocean]

it sucks too because on my mom's side they all have the thickest most luxurious fucking hair

my granddad had a full head of hair at his old age

fucker

give me your genes

asshole

[grand hearth]

how dare he not share!

[bronze ocean]

fr!!!

[outer meteor]

my dad is very bald but my uncle (on my mom's side) has very thick hair
so idk if it's possible i have my uncles genes but i'm hoping

persian genes please give me a shit ton of dark hair and not look like my dad whose eyebrows are so light they're barely visible

[spice sphinx]

I wish all tguys a very good thurday

[outer meteor]

:3 i wish all tgirls a very good thursday

[visual sun]

feliz jueves

[umbral flame]

me

[visual sun]

me

[misty harness]

we

[chrome snow]

ye

[balmy pond]

Dost anypbt have recs for comfy af sports bras?

[frozen breach]

girlfriend collective is pretty pricey but their stuff is insanely comfortable!!

also some of theirs work pretty well for binding for transmascs despite the potentially dysphoria-inducing name

[balmy pond]

Ok ty!!

[austere jay]

good news and bad news guys

remember my car? we found her on thursday and she’s completely fucked

lots of damage but long store short they did meth in there and im going to have to get rid of her

good news is i’m going to look at a new car today’

very cool looking car and had quick release

[grand hearth]

goddamn sorry Vinny

[austere jay]

it’s awful but what can you do

here she is in current condition

luckily i have a buddy lined up to buy it after i go to war with insurance

[grand hearth]

poor girl

[austere jay]

god i know

she was the most beautiful little lady on the planet and i loved her like a child but at least she’s going to get new life, just unfortunately without me in the picture

[austere jay]

even better news i’m buying the accord

it’s on its way to my house now

[chrome snow]

I still hope that you are able to do something about the Honda.

:((

[austere jay]

my friend is going to try to restore her and sell it back to me for 1000

so we’ll see

[chrome snow]

Heck yeeeee

[austere jay]

and you KNOW i’m gonna get my insurance money

[timid grail]

im glad u were able to find her but that sucks so bad im so sorry !!

[zinc oriole]

I'm glad things ended up turning out despite the unfortunate aspects!!

[grand hearth]

lettin myself become hairy as fuck!!!!!

I used to be super…idk…I think it was almost an OCD thing because I had a tendency to take tweezers and pluck every single hair that looked weird or out of place in some way. Now I’m letting everything grow and I feel a lot less stressed thinking about having to pluck hairs because they’re all going to end up blending together in some way anyway!

[zinc oriole]

Happy for you :] it's werewolf time

As somebody with ocd when I had slightly less hair it happened sometimes

Being hairier helps

[grand hearth]

Awoooo!!!!!!!

[austere jay]

retweet

new whip

her name is juliette

[grand hearth]

she looks so epic!!

[austere jay]

she’s loud as hell and so low to the ground but i’m truly in love

as is tradition for me and new cars i took her for a ride listening to athoth

[vapid dune]

Sick car

[austere jay]

just wait till i get the mg stickers on there

[chrome snow]

ur goin to be turnin head wit the accord

🗣️🗣️

[austere jay]

it’s so fun to drive around my predominantly old white town with my loud ass exhaust

healing

[zinc oriole]

LOVE THE SEATS

She's so cool I'm so glad you were able to get another car!

[proper igloo]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/696578921264709644/1103133959648456854/mm.gif

[valid sun]

looks awesome, i'm at least glad there was some positives to the outcome

[valid sun]

join the club 💪

still havent shaved in 5 years

make it 6 in october

something comforting about being able to be hairy now

its probably my fave T effect

[strong heath]

i havwnt shaved for so long because it feels bad but it feels wven worse when idojt do it

i’m so disgusting etc etc vent post redscted

feeling really bad someone say wolf or something

[outer meteor]

wolf

(obviously this won't help dysphoria but) body hair is cool as fuck on all genders

thinking about girlhair

[unborn atlas]

body hair is nice

[outer meteor]

i love testosterone

[strong heath]

i HATE it

i hate it in me. love it in other people 👍

[feral wind]

same

[visual sun]

I kinda wish I didn’t get laser on my happy trail lol

Tgirls love happy trail

[sturdy trail]

treasure trail top 10 body features

[austere jay]

oh absolutely

the best part about t hands down

i love mine

[bronze ocean]

hey.

stretches my arms in a short shirt

[sturdy trail]

awooga

[tardy creek]

@sturdy trail has leveled up! (14 ➜ 15)

[frozen breach]

real

[frozen breach]

I'm so happy I got the werewolf genes that are buried somewhere in my lineage because tummy so hairy now and it makes me :)))

I was pretty hairy before t but now I'm a Menace

[outer meteor]

TUMMY HAIR

i have a little happy trail now and it makes me. happy

[vapid dune]

Being on estrogen don’t mean some of us don’t rock the tummy trail too

I for sure do

It’s something both transfems and transmascs can agree looks hot

[austere jay]

something about it is universal

cultivating my happy trail like cis men take care of their beards

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[spice sphinx]

Truth

Like dude that’s my fur I can’t just shave it off

[last pilot]

Got some positive news. I will be getting surgery to get rid off my glasses by the end of September:333

[chrome snow]

Heck yeeeeee

[zinc oriole]

No glasses life !!

[unborn atlas]

glasses removal surgery

[spice sphinx]

A new top surgery just dropped

Nerd affirming healthcare

[sturdy trail]

do they do surgery on ur eyeball

yucky mental image

[grand hearth]

It’s probably just lasers

[unborn atlas]

bewwwww

[grand hearth]

Pew pew!!!!

[sturdy trail]

i can't handle eye drops without looking like i'm having a seizure

[unborn atlas]

yeah it's ruff

[last pilot]

Can’t get lazer one lol. There is this other type but I didn’t understand a single word they told me

[grand hearth]

I’ve been putting hard contacts in my eyes every night ever since i was 10 so I’ve eventually gotten used to that sort of thing

I cried every time i put them in for like a week when i first got them lol

Other type?????? Huh…

Oh it might be an implant

[bronze ocean]

im megane 💪

[grand hearth]

Megane 👓 👓

[last pilot]

From what my little brain understood, they will put a permanent contact into my eyes. Laser would do way more damage than good to me.

[grand hearth]

Yeaaaa implant

I think my dad got one because he was getting cataracts

[last pilot]

Both excited and nervous at the same time. I never had surgery before

[unborn atlas]

surgery is based

you just fall asleep and wake up with upgrades

[last pilot]

restart

[outer meteor]

my dad got lazik and said his eyes burned every morning when he woke up for like a year
but also that was like 20-30 years ago so the technology might have improved since then

and also his eyes like went back to how they were before after a while (i can't remember how long it took)

[sturdy trail]

scary

[digital geyser]

since i keep bringing uni up as the tiem i will be finally able to come out (i almost certainly am going to put my actual name on the system and be open about my pronouns) i did get in so in a months time hopefully ill be able to finally be fully out in an irl setting

[outer meteor]

:D congrats!

[digital geyser]

thank you!!

[balmy pond]

\ ^○^/

Such a good feeling omg

[digital geyser]

my parents made a shitty transphobic joke about like "don't start identifying as an object or something" and internally i was just thinking "im already not identifying as cis that wont start at uni" sfldjfdkls

[valid sun]

hope it goes well!!!!!

the coming out

[grand hearth]

cis guy classmate seems into me and I like him too

probably doesn’t know that I just started T

cue nervous sweating

https://tenor.com/view/sweat-nervous-stressed-wet-gif-12558735

[outer meteor]

does he think you're cis?

[austere jay]

i know the feeling

i’m right there with you

started t the day after i met my partner for the first time i thought they wouldn’t like me anymore 😭😭 but they did!! 9 months on the 28th

[austere jay]

guys important question

what the fuck do you wear to a silent hill themed race

*RAVE

[grand hearth]

it’s likely that he knows I’m not because I’m pretty open about using gender neutral pronouns, I think I stick out like a sore thumb in that aspect because our class does not have many people and I’m 99% sure I’m the only one in the class who isn’t cis (it’s a medical school so I think having a low trans rep tends to be common in the field).

Not going to mention HRT until the time is right (I.e. definitely before getting involved in a relationship). Ultimate goal for HRT is to become more obviously androgynous so I’m hoping some mildly masculine features won’t lessen his attraction to me, but if it does then we’re just not compatible and that’s that

[grand hearth]

make a giant clunky pyramid head mask and go ham

annoy everyone at the rave by bumping into them with your big pyramid nose

[austere jay]

solid idea

will consider

[austere jay]

always remember that if hrt is a deal breaker for them, unfortunately they weren’t worth it. i know everyone says it but i think it’s so important to reiterate

you got this systems i believe in you

you have the official vinny stamp of support

[outer meteor]

mhm
good luck!

[proper igloo]

the fit of all time

[unborn atlas]

get a bunch of white clothes and cover them in gunk

[visual sun]

Definitely this

[austere jay]

possible…

gotta go for monster tho you guys know my niche

trans man bubble head nurse maybe??? just need some ace bandages???

[unborn atlas]

probably shouldn't bind with ace bandages

[languid wing]

i hate foorida i have to wait till 18 for hrt 🙄🙄🙄🙄

[tardy creek]

@languid wing has leveled up! (1 ➜ 2)

[languid wing]

omg thats me

[zinc oriole]

Maybe bind with transtape and drape the bandages over it? If you were planning on putting them around your chest

[austere jay]

no no not binding

like my head

like the bandages they have

[austere jay]

don’t worry guys i would never bind with ace bandages 😭😭 never again

[zinc oriole]

Even tjoygh I'm a guy if I ever cosplay the nurses I'm doing the girly outfit

DW I DIDNT THINK U WERE

[austere jay]

you’re stronger than me

i’ll probably do bandages on my head and maybe some dirty ass pants and combat boots? no shirt tho it’s tboy summer baby

[zinc oriole]

Transitioning has allowed me some girly outfit freedom (in terms of myself I feel more comfortable wearing fem stuff when appearing more masculine it isn't a requirement

[zinc oriole]

Tboy summerrrrrrr

Maybe labcoat or some medical adjacent gear?

[unborn atlas]

oh right, my mistake, I'm dum

[zinc oriole]

Is anyone here good at IDing animal bones?

[tardy creek]

@zinc oriole has leveled up! (73 ➜ 74)

[zinc oriole]

Idk i

THANKS

HRBDHHD

Idk if it's from a deer but I think so? Found it on some railroad tracks in north Carolina

[grand hearth]

im willing to give it a shot

[zinc oriole]

It's in a pot bc im getting the last of the soft tissue off

This is gross so forgive me, but I sniffed it and it smells... good???

It doesn't smell like rotting meat, it smells like cooked food

[grand hearth]

huh, interesting

[zinc oriole]

So maybe somebody cooked a big animal and threw it there. But that doesn't make sense

Bc it was on railroad tracks

[grand hearth]

trying to think what it could be, swiping back and forth between images

[zinc oriole]

I can send more if it helps

[grand hearth]

sure

The bone gives me the impression that it’s a back leg

[zinc oriole]

That's what I thought too

Especially bc of the bit at the bottom and the shape of the top

[grand hearth]

yeah exactly

Comparing to some images of deer skeletons it does look like it belongs in one, lemme send an image of one

the middle bone of the back leg looks like your bone

I think it’s pretty normal for bones to not smell rancid when they’re cooked

you’re probably smelling the marrow being cooked more than anything

[zinc oriole]

OOO TYSM

And true!

[grand hearth]

yea!

[zinc oriole]

This was one big deer

[grand hearth]

completely unrelated to deer discussion: have Harpy but a bit older lol

i don't know if there's any context to why he just sitting in his boxers lol i think i just felt like drawing him

been too tired lately to make fully colored/shaded/rendered pieces so i've just been doing sketches of things that come to mind every now and then. i might buy Procreate just so that i have an app with all the bells and whistles on my ipad instead of shitty autodesk lol

literally had to google "male torso body hair" to get an idea how to draw it in terms of directionality. definitely not the worst reference i had to stare at for extended periods of time though 🤷

[real meadow]

should i . have a convo about starting t with my parents.

it’s been like. two years since we’ve last had a conversation regarding my transition

[real meadow]

would.

[grand hearth]

you should definitely bring it up again

you have a lot of time to start HRT tbh but at some point you’ll have to bring up the subject again, so might as well do it soon.

I don’t really know what the outcome will be especially when navigating the topic under parents because I didn’t ID as trans until a couple years ago—I essentially just said fuck it and booked the consultation and everything on my own last month—but it is so so important to start advocating for yourself early and this is a good time to do so

this is largely from an outside perspective. I don’t know what your relationship with your parents is like and I don’t know how they handle trans issues, so in the end do what you think is best for yourself given your situation.

[cold whale]

tibia + fibula of a deer, if you want a better clean do not boil!! it melts the fats and traps them deeper in the bone. degrease with a 1:1 solution of water and dish soap for at least 12 hours

source: i am a bone collector

• these little bits are carpals and junk! so like ankles and toes

[cold whale]

it’s the middle front leg!!

[zinc oriole]

TYYYY SM I only simmered them and uh. The Water all evaporated

Bc I forgot abt it

So my apartment smells like deer now LOL

Now its just sitting in water though instead

[zinc oriole]

I love these chunks

I want more bones, I have a few which I'll send in a bit!

[cold whale]

my room scares the hoes but it’s worth it

[real meadow]

so basically . i have a decent relationship with my parents?? like uhhh idk 😭 theyre okay with me being trans but theyre like kinda really weird about it? like they dont use my correct name or pronouns but they acknowledge the fact that im trans ig. and theyve been much more lenient than before with what i do and how i present myself. i just genuinely can never tell what theyre thinking so its hard as hell for me to initiate that sort of convo

its not like they deadname me uhh they call me kay which is just. a fem version of caleb. and like they only use they/them for me even tho i dont use it. uhhh

its confusing as fuck tbh and like they talk about their doubts of my identity often behind my back. so i genuinely dont know how smoothly this conversation would go

[outer meteor]

omg, i hope they're ethically sourced because that's epic

[cold whale]

yes they are that’s my biggest priority lol

[outer meteor]

:D

i have a small bone collection that's all animals i've found in nature

this is my coolest piece

[cold whale]

ugh i went through this for a while it was so frustrating

[real meadow]

yeah

[outer meteor]

yeah i get that,
my parents weren't very transphobic but weren't very accepting when i came out to them, what helped was bringing up trans friends around them to gauge their reactions and also get them used to how to refer to trans people and stuff
but you've done that already
it took probably over a year from coming out to have my parents reliably use the right name and pronouns for me, but they gradually did get there, to the point where my grandma who i was the most scared to out to tries to use the right name and pronouns :3 (she forgets a lot)

[outer meteor]

that was supposed to be in response to this

[real meadow]

so like

ive been out to them for nearly four years now

[outer meteor]

bringing up t was also difficult, my parents were very worried i'd regret permanent changes but i was like firm with them
my dad barely acknowledged it until when i was leaving for my t appointment and he asked to come along, he was completely silent until the end of the appointment when he burst out about how it was a huge decision and i could regret it and how he really wants me to consider it more before doing it

that was in september and i gave up for a while, i talked to him about it again a couple months later, he was more chill and i started t in march

[sturdy trail]

if they do this then it would either be pleasant surprise or The Worst Ever

[outer meteor]

also the thing with bringing up medical transition is that it makes people realize you're serious and it's not just a phase
so it really makes them have to come to terms with how you're Actually Trans

[sturdy trail]

y

ya

[real meadow]

wdym

[outer meteor]

obviously there are many ways the conversation could go, it could snap them out of it and start to respect your pronouns and stuff if they realize you're serious
that's just me being an optimist
i have a friend who was threatened to have all support cut from him and essentially be punished if he started hrt but his parents are definitely transphobic and not middle ground

[real meadow]

sorry i am so fucking like. my brain is dead rn im trying to process everything yall are saying

thank u for help yall btw

[outer meteor]

and his parents are in denial of him being trans

yea no worries i'm just putting all my thoughts down

and i also have a friend whose mom "isn't transphobic" but is pretty transphobic and wants her to "just be really sure 🥺" hrt is right for her and is making her go to a bunch of gender therapists "for her best interest" or whatever :/

not trying to scare you, just obviously there's a lot of different ways your parents could react, you know your parents best so you're going to be the best gauge of that

[real meadow]

yeah im talking to my siblings abt it rn (theyre supportive of me) and were kinda trying to figure out what their reactions would be

im just hoping that if it goes wrong ill be able to recover from it quickly

i think im gonna start by telling them how i am actually tired of them not using my right name . and telling them that i am serious about being who i am

[outer meteor]

mhm, if you think there's a significant chance of it going really badly and you don't have any backup options (like if there's a chance you'd need to move out, having a friend to stay with), then i would put it off until you do have a way out

[real meadow]

and then hopefully we can ease into hrt talk

[outer meteor]

that's good! i hope it goes well

[real meadow]

dont think theyd kick me out so i dont need to worry about that

just like last time i had a talk abt trans issues i started crying a shit ton and my dad was being rlly annoying about it

[outer meteor]

yeah it's not easy

[valid sun]

hoping ur parents lessen up on the topic at some point, the gender neutral misgendering is somehow worse than other forms sometimes

or if they use the right name but not pronouns and vice versa

in 9th grade i had a teacher who said my deadname but used he/hom

he/him*

which was strange but its a step him from when he used neither

[real meadow]

yeah im like nervous as fuck rn

im in the car with them rn and i am prolly gonna bring it up in a few

im fucking nervous fudgsjsgsb

[outer meteor]

good luck caleb!!!

[real meadow]

eighgg it went fine

dad said some weird things but eh

whatever

im almost out of here anyways

[zinc oriole]

WOAHHHHHHH AMAZING I envy your bone amount

[whole monolith]

yall kids talk too much

proud of all you little trans homies tho keep it up

[feral wind]

me af

[misty harness]

mmmm don't like that one

arkan's tigers were responsible for ethnic cleansing in the Bosnian war

[chrome snow]

Trans people against war.

[sturdy trail]

west slavs not be racist or otherwise chauvinist challenge

[misty harness]

memes with war songs like that are 99% chud shit

[sturdy trail]

ya

[misty harness]

silver lining of being interested in military tech and history is being able to call out specific shit like this that isn't common knowledge but is hella dogwhistley

history is interesting in general and military tech is unfortunately the pinnacle of engineering which I'm also interested in.....

[visual sun]

5 months on hrt today :3

[misty harness]

hell yeahhhh

[vapid dune]

Reminds me of when Serbia strong was a fairly popular meme even among people who would consider themselves to be on the left cus haha funny song

But the right had it for its own reason with the remove kebab thing

[grand hearth]

I’m glad it went well, my dad said some weird stuff when I mentioned T too lmfao

“…so you’re going to get male parts???” 💀 💀 💀

[vapid dune]

This is what they ALWAYS say and I hate it so much not just family but strangers but of course the reverse for us

Cis people try not to be obsessed with the contents of our pants challenge (IMPOSSIBLE)

[grand hearth]

it’s so strange!!!! I don’t get it.

[vapid dune]

It’s cus to the average cis person sex is seemingly the peak of humanity’s achievements

[grand hearth]

sometimes I wonder if when it comes to strangers or people otherwise unrelated to you that they’re assessing you if you’re “sexually compatible” for them

[vapid dune]

Like the other day I went to my family’s house and I had to explain of course about my girlfriend literally living with me now and of course he asked if we fucked and he could not wrap his head around the fact that no, I feel no sexual interest so we don’t and that’s perfectly acceptable to do

By he I mean my brother, sorry

[grand hearth]

💀 💀

[vapid dune]

He was acting as if she will get bored of the relationship or “how can the relationship work without sex” idk by trusting each other and being more than just meat puppets to each other?

[vapid dune]

They MOST DEFINITELY do

[grand hearth]

people can’t wrap their heads around relationships having substance beyond sex

[vapid dune]

And like it’s also fucked up to ask because like not all of us but a good chunk of us WOULD love to get bottom surgery but cannot because money or other reasons and cis people are basically always reminding us of our birth-given genitals

[sturdy trail]

i think transphobic people being obsessed with genitals is more neurosis around sex than advocating sex

he can't keep getting away with it jesse gif

[misty harness]

agree

[real meadow]

he was like … “i dont know if i should encourage your transition or prevent it” which is like

why would u say that

[grand hearth]

[real meadow]

and then he was like “ur never gonna have male parts so u need to accept urself without mutilating ur body”

[grand hearth]

THE MALE PARTS THING YET AGAIN

😭

[misty harness]

sigh

[sturdy trail]

least paranoid white belizean

[real meadow]

my parents are american

i was js born there

[real meadow]

how did u even remember that wtf

[sturdy trail]

memory crayzee

[vapid dune]

Who CARES what’s in your pants holy shit

Just cus I can’t afford bottom surgery doesn’t mean I hate myself to death. Being able to chemically transition is a huge step forward on its own

And plenty of trans people are comfortable just transitioning and not getting bottom surgery and that’s 110% valid not everything is genitals related

I have a coworker who is like 18 or 19 and he is an immigrant from Brazil and yesterday I had to give him the trans talk cus he asked if I could get him a mop that was inside the girls bathroom so I had to explain why I couldn’t go in

And today he asked if I had surgery to change my appearance and I had to explain to him how transition works and he was so fascinated and NOT ONCE did he ask if I got my dick cut off or if I like guys

Like why can’t every cis person be like that

[frozen breach]

holy shit you found a unicorn

[frozen breach]

FR

[vapid dune]

For sure. Every trans conversation with cis people eventually leads to genital talk. It’s seriously disgusting

[real meadow]

i dont even wanna get bottom surgery. thats what i find the most funny

everyone whos cis has been like “why do u hate not having a dick??” i dont

boypussy 🤝 girldick

i just wanna take t. and top surgery

the current results for phalloplasty arent what i desire. so until they magically get some new technique. im not considering getting bottom surgery

[frozen breach]

so real

[umbral flame]

dr

fr

[vapid dune]

This is my main thing with vaginoplasty tbh I feel like it’s a bit more developed than phalloplasty but it is also fair to say results depend a lot on who your surgeon is

A part of me would just consider going nullo

[unborn atlas]

they really got no idea huh

[grand hearth]

seems they don’t lol

[zinc oriole]

There's more types of bottom surgery for transmascs than phallo

[vapid dune]

Yea lemme pull out 30,000 big ones out of my pocket and casually go get a life changing surgery that will have me out of commission for a solid month to get a body part that requires daily dilating or else complications may arise, it is soemthing so casual and easy to decide and just up and do

[zinc oriole]

There's a lot of options that aren't really discussed bc there's a lot of stigma around transmasc bottom surgery being 'risky' or ineffective. But I do understand not desiring it because I'm content myself (for now) I'm in a similar boat where if it was absolutely perfected to what I desire I'd get it

[vapid dune]

Bottom surgery is a fucking miracle of a procedure how they can seemingly contort the genitals in such a way to do their best to get a resemblance to the opposite genitals

But yea. Something so advanced is of course not gonna be perfect just yet. But it’s still something so fucking rad to witness

[unborn atlas]

I think non surgery trans people are

divine

and powerful

[vapid dune]

Both ways are perfectly valid and divine because comfort in your body is absolutely the peak of the trans experience

Specially with genital dysphoria being so complex like. I don’t HATE the look of my genitals I can see them there just fine it don’t bother me. But by god I HATE the feel of them being there like you know the typical gock related movement of it all that tucking is the only way I ever go outside

So for me it’s more about the sensation and just idk the discomfort of acknowledging it’s there rather than the visual aspect of it

[unborn atlas]

oh yeah of course we all need our own treatments

[frozen breach]

aggy spittin‼️

[vapid dune]

Also my trans homies I am fucking DEVASTATED I had to ask a cis guy to open a bottle for me for the first time since starting HRT

I was STRONK pre transition i was a beefcake and I had to ask a scrawny coworker to open something for me I am weak now

[sturdy trail]

doggo pupper smol boi chonk

heckin danger noodle

[vapid dune]

Idk what point you’re trying to make with this I changed a single letter in a word and I don’t plan to humor you beyond this one message

[unborn atlas]

carry a knife

for opening containers

good for jars

[chrome snow]

https://youtube.com/shorts/8MlX-Djdb_E?feature=share

[unborn atlas]

I just open the seal with a knife

[chrome snow]

It's another way to do it, but you can make it look like a magic trick!

[wanton dust]

Bash the sides with a wooden spoon

Works every time

[proper igloo]

and/or smash it open with a hammer

[chrome snow]

It works 100% of the time.

Unless if the glass is unbreakable.

:((

[austere jay]

best advice i have for anyone

carry a pocket knife at all times it’s a great tool, all you need is like a 2.5 inch blade

refrain from using it as a weapon unless necessary but as far as tools go i use mine everyday

[unborn atlas]

I would like some manner of

multitool

[austere jay]

me too, but right now small blade pocket knife kind of covers all my bases work wise

really helpful as a prep cook i genuinely have to stab and slash a lot of non food items

[whole monolith]

pepper spray is more effective and safer to use than a knife for self defense

someone can keep attacking you with a flesh wound but pepper spray is pretty solidly immobilizing or at least disorientating

[vapid dune]

but can pepper spray open a jar

[feral wind]

yea

[grand hearth]

I will say it depends on where you wound the attacker

When it comes to knives

You could stab them in both eyes and they probably won’t be able to do shit

Cut their Achilles tendon or smth idk

[spice sphinx]

Ain’t no way you’re doing anything close to that in situations where it matters though

Tazers n pepper spray are just way more reliable

[grand hearth]

🤷 just a thought, I’m not saying knives are better

[spice sphinx]

Alternatively

https://tenor.com/view/mr-bean-bean-rowan-atkinson-atkinson-bean-gun-gif-22134948

Mankind’s greatest invention, for passing divine judgement on 3 letter organization agents

[austere jay]

will also generally be easier to deal with potential law enforcement if you pepper spray a guy vs stab him

knives are cool and awesome but be smart and safe

[visual sun]

okay this might be a weird question

i have never been formally diagnosed as intersex

is it inappropriate to self identify as intersex?

is it like strictly a medical thing?

i've never been formally diagnosed as autistic either but i do self identify

i'm kind of bigender so idk lol

i know it's not the same thing it would just make sense to me if it were true

i never got my hormone levels checked before starting EV

[bronze ocean]

intersex is generally a thing that has a medical diagnosis yeah

it's a very broad spectrum though and in some cases its pretty obvious that you would be diagnosed with any such conditions but sometimes it isnt

[visual sun]

i think at most i've always felt like that on the inside but i won't like claim it

since it's more of a gender thing for me i think

i might ask my doctor about it

it's just something i've been curious about since i learned about it (similar to being trans tbh)

[bronze ocean]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1019724988112183297/1143248116213108856/F4DQNjsWMAA8yBF.jpg

[balmy pond]

god damnit

[bronze ocean]

opens a bag of sour patch kids

[digital geyser]

they FINALLY STARTED SELLING the watermelon ones in some uk supermarkets

[feral wind]

give

[balmy pond]

||Kinda crazy cuz when I was like 12 or 13 I started having stomach issues involving bleeding when I'd use the bathroom and I swore up and down that I was secretly intersex and getting a period||
Censored for gross GI issues, prolly dont need to but just in case 😬👍

[visual sun]

YUMMY

also

just tried these shits the other day so good

my tooth enamel will never be the same

[vapid dune]

A coworker brought these last night so I also got to try them

Mfers are real good

[visual sun]

i have replaced my alcohol consumption with sugar consumption

[vapid dune]

me but unironically and with energy drinks instead

i cant go hardline straight edge cus i need my energy dinks

[visual sun]

caffeme

[chrome snow]

I'm not straight edge, I need my caffeine.

https://tenor.com/view/need-coffee-coffee-addict-futurama-gif-9170273

[unborn atlas]

you should probably check

[visual sun]

proby

[unborn atlas]

I had similar thoughts and they offered to check

[bronze ocean]

TRUU

opens a bag of sour gummy worms

[real meadow]

scuttles over like a little creature

[feral wind]

real

[frozen breach]

any left 4 the trans guys,,,

sour patch watermelons are legit the best candy ever

no contest

[unborn atlas]

when did sour candies become a trans thing?

[bronze ocean]

never have been

[unborn atlas]

young people are fast n loose with saying X is Y

not so good with explaining why

[sturdy trail]

ya

https://tenor.com/view/all-this-is-true-because-it-rhymes-lego-movie-gif-14579344

[unborn atlas]

avant garde thrash metal supergroup Fantômas is trans culture because I like them, as a trans person

I mean ummm? they wrote a concept album about surgery??? ummmm??????

[sturdy trail]

new vegas celeste blahaj striped programmer sock thigh highs keysmash this person is so Gender this person is so Valid

[bronze ocean]

living in the netherlands is trans culture

[unborn atlas]

pickles steven universe she-ra noisy maximalist internet subgenres toxic yuri

[sturdy trail]

i was hoping everyone grew out of she ra

[unborn atlas]

man I dunno my cultural references are perpetually out of date

[sturdy trail]

owl house amphibia pride flag pfp

[unborn atlas]

picrew

monster energy

(the pink one)

[proper igloo]

which one

[unborn atlas]

I dunno what our culture is

[bronze ocean]

cavetown frogs oingo boingo tally hall owl house steven universe picrew

interlinked.

[sturdy trail]

terribk

terribl

[unborn atlas]

you google transgender pop culture" and you get a lot of Laverne Cox and RuPaul

[unborn atlas]

interlinked.

[unborn atlas]

and it's like

where's the horrifically violent short stories

where's the body horror

[sturdy trail]

12 year old german boy saying "slay" "fr" "rahhh" "rizz" after they heard it from someone who heard it from someone who heard it from rupaul

and/or tiktok

[unborn atlas]

where's music made by a 30 year old shut in called something like DJ SHITT

[bronze ocean]

goreshit?

[proper igloo]

theyre all in berlin

[unborn atlas]

I just made that up

for some reason I was thinking about DJ Fuck but I don't think he's trans

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z9G-yk9gl3A

[bronze ocean]

40k g/acc wired lain twinkhon gigapassoid

within cells interlinked

[proper igloo]

https://tenor.com/view/blade-runner-blade-runner2049-snow-gif-23792661

[unborn atlas]

twinks (male and female) himbo thembo herbo (bimbo) interlinked (interlinked)

[bronze ocean]

male twinks

[unborn atlas]

people seem to use twink pretty gender neutrally lately

[bronze ocean]

yeah it sucks

new way to call people fslur

[unborn atlas]

iunno about that

[sturdy trail]

i support everyone being a twink except cis women

[unborn atlas]

yyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyeah I think so

"is barbie a twink?" thread locked after 1294674 pages of furious discourse, alongside mod and state intervention

[misty harness]

my culture is big robots idk about this trans gender thing

[unborn atlas]

I know a mech girl

[misty harness]

yeah me

jk I know what u mean

I need to learn to draw to make a personal mech design idk

the two transition goals

[misty harness]

need the rot but also laser gun

idk what I'm saying I'm just having a bad night good night

[unborn atlas]

sleep good Sarah

[austere jay]

trans culture is anything a trans person touches

we deserve it i think

[civic ibex]

gonna update the affordable hrt services to now include FOLX bc they take many more insurance methods now and have liwered their monthly cost to $40 a month:3