iPhone Upgrade

[devout glen]

Hello guys, I'm looking to upgrade from my iPhone 14. I think it's still capable but I dont want to lose software support
I've been eyeing the iPhone 15 Pro for a time now and I really don't know what should i do

[hollow zodiac]

Lowest I'd go is 16

I recommend 17 and higher

[safe palm]

I'd say go for the 16 or 16 pro, it's still really good

[hardy sleet]

whats ur budget

and what do u care about in a phone

and do u care if used or not

[open gazelle]

Maybe a 15 Pro if you want a Pro phone but cannot afford the 16 Pro

But even the 15 Pros are harder to recommend now.

[open gazelle]

From a 14, I'd consider a 16 or 17 series of some kind. Depends on four questions.

• What is your use case?
• What is your budget?
• What are your needs?
• What features do you want/need?

[hardy sleet]

how are they harder to recommend

they aren't that old

[open gazelle]

15 Pros aren’t as refined as the 16 Pros. And also OP is coming from a 14 so I’d believe a 16 Pro or some 17 series would be a better upgrade anyway

[devout glen]

Like I just use it for little gaming (like daily angry birds), youtube and whatsapp

[open gazelle]

I’d probably recommend a 17. Maybe a 17e or a refurbished base 16. I don’t think you need a Pro level just for those tasks.

[hardy sleet]

what features would u want?

[plucky mulch]

16 or 17 pro would be a better upgrade for you.

[open gazelle]

For that use case, even a regular 17 would work fine.

Angry Birds probably doesn't need the extra power of the A19 Pro when the regular A19 does fine

[hardy sleet]

16 pro is better than 17 though no?

it has better value for like similar price

[cloud agate]

In my opinion… only the camera and the LiDAR wins here, but iPhone 17 is way better since they brought Pro-Motion, and all that Pro stuff… as well as the A19 chip

[hardy sleet]

well if u like titanium or aluminium more if titanium then 16 pro if aluminium the n 17, but 17 has better ceramic sheild 2 with 16 pro only ceramic sheild and 17 has a19 better than a18 pro and slightly better battery and has a better front camera 18mp with front staging but 16 pro has 4k 120fps whilst 17 only 4k 60fps, 16 pro has telephoto, optical zoom up to 5x in 16 pro, 16 pro has usb-3 support but 17 supports magsafe up to 25w and has more starting storage

[cloud agate]

Yeah I said except the camera

[hardy sleet]

the 16 pro has usb-3 support bas 17 only 2

and if u like titanium more than 16 pro has it

[cloud agate]

USB-3 is just for faster file transfer, and a little faster charging

[hardy sleet]

i guess its still an advantage

so both have their advantages and disadvantages

from eachother

[cloud agate]

Of course, Pro is Pro

And base is base

But still I prefer the 17

[open gazelle]

Vastly depends on use case

If you care about the best cameras, I’d lean more towards the 16 Pro, but for most other people the 17 might be the best option

[opal spoke]

get a 17, don't bother with the pros at all

[opal spoke]

the usb standard has no effect on charging whatsoever

[open gazelle]

Especially for playing angry birds and youtube.

The tech community is filled with people who think Pro supremacy is good and the base is for "little children", it's leading to some, well, bad advice at times.

Even the 17e would work okay with that use case. Yet people insist on suggesting the Pros anyway

Pros are only really needed if you care about camera and screen quality and a phone that lasts 5+ years. The base 17 is probably the best base iPhone ever and I'll probably keep recommending it even in 2029

The base 17 is kinda like an iPhone 13 style upgrade in a way. Watch the base 17 still be attractive for the next 3 years.

[opal spoke]

i mean the screens on the base and pro are identical now

at least on the 17s

you are only getting an extra camera and some extra ram you won't feel any benefit from

[cloud agate]

I meant the 16 Pro, sorry

[opal spoke]

the 16 pro doesn't charge any faster cause of usb 3.2 either

it's just data transfer

[hardy sleet]

i got the pro so that i measure

[opal spoke]

you mean with the lidar?

[hardy sleet]

ye

[opal spoke]

yeah it's really good

i use it all the time

[hardy sleet]

but since op's usecase is basic

17e is good enough for them if they want new

or 17 if 120hz

[opal spoke]

the difference between the 17 and 17e is night and day

avoid the 17e at all costs

[hardy sleet]

what if their budget isnt enough for 17

as the 17e is much lower

[opal spoke]

well then you don't have a choice

[hardy sleet]

ye

so if op has like £800

17 is a good deal

if only £600 then 17e

[cloud agate]

Always depends on the budget, if you have 600 don’t go for the 17e, go for 15 Pro so you will have every feature

It’s way better than the 17e ofc

[hardy sleet]

what if they want new though

15 pro is used

[cloud agate]

And? You can get refurbished as well, cause you will have a better phone

If you want a new so much… then buy it but I don’t think it’s worth it

[hardy sleet]

im not OP

[cloud agate]

I’m talking in general

[hardy sleet]

15 pro has less software updates no?

17e gets longer software

[cloud agate]

For two years less? You earn more performance, sometimes… 120Hz, Dynamic Island, Titanium, 3 Cameras, and ultra wide as well…

[hardy sleet]

that is a long time tbh

both have their advantages

if one cares more for features than software updates

then 15 pro

if one just wants longer updates 17e

[cloud agate]

You will still get 5 years of software support, I don’t think it’s a short time..

[hardy sleet]

sorry i meant two years less of support is a big gap

but anywayd

the 17e and 15 pro have both advantages and dis