Building PC, need Recommendations

[somber leaf]

Power Suply: (850 watt)

SSD: (2 drives 500 GB boot drive and 1-2 TB for games and some smaller programs)

Fan: (size not sure)

GPU: (looking at 5070)

@me so i see

[crude brook]

Hello there! It sounds like a good build for a start, but we have to complete the parts. Tell me your budget and I’ll tell you a good build since I enjoy looking for builds!

[flint axle]

what's your budget

[torpid obsidian]

Could you tell your budget and general region (for the prices of products)

[somber leaf]

Budget for me isn’t a issue for

[flint axle]

so what kind of budget are we talking

[somber leaf]

United States

[flint axle]

how much are you willing to spend on one

[somber leaf]

On what exactly?

GPU: 600-700

SSD: 500gb (100-150$) 1-2 tb (300-500$)

PSU: what ever is needed for best performance

[flint axle]

total

[somber leaf]

1400$ USD

@flint axle ^

[somber leaf]

The budget is 1400$ usd. Most of the budget is probably storage and gpu

Altho I don’t necessarily mind going over

[somber leaf]

1400 $ USD or so. I pefer quality over cheap

[sudden turret]

do you perhaps know how much ram costs

[crude brook]

The half of the budget will be covered by Ram.. DDR5 I guess, right?

[flint axle]

ram alone will cost 400-500

just so you know

[somber leaf]

I already have 128 gigs

[sudden turret]

oh that is amazing

[somber leaf]

So the computer I have is already partly built.

CPU: 12900k i9

Ram: 128gigs of corsair rgb vengeance

Aio: not really sure

Forgot to add this my fault

[sudden turret]

you'll need to find out which psu you need after you get everything else

[somber leaf]

I was thinking either a 850-1000 watt

[sudden turret]

but you don't know if that will be sufficient for your build until you've chosen everything else

[somber leaf]

Fair enough

What 5070 would you recommend?

[sudden turret]

the one with 16gb of vram for sure

[crude brook]

Hello there, I suggest putting an AMD RX9070 XT, a 1000 Wattage PSU, bronze category ofc, and I suggest getting a ProGaming Elite as a case. Also I suggest getting 1TB of SSD nvme and a sata if you want to extend the storage, and as a motherboard get ASRock X870 Pro-A WiFi.

Do you have Keyboard, Mouse and Monitor or do you want it to be included?

[somber leaf]

Alright, which sata would you recommend?

Also why amd over invida (just wondering

[sudden turret]

what are you going to be doing on it?

[somber leaf]

Gaming and some video editing.

Altho heavy workload editing is on my MacBook Pro

[sudden turret]

what games?

[somber leaf]

Forza, gta 5 and 6 (if it ever comes out), rainbow 6 siege, ready or not, Minecraft, ect

[crude brook]

I recommend AMD to everyone who asks me about building a PC, and the only reason is that if you want to experiment on Linux later on, it supports Driver, which Nvidia GPUs doesn’t

[somber leaf]

Linux for me isn’t necessarily a priority unless it starts to work with the majority of games/ editing software I use

[sudden turret]

what? there are nvidia gpu drivers on linux

[somber leaf]

Also is there really any difference between gold and platinum ratings for power supplys

[crude brook]

Yeah but on most Linux systems the AMD GPUs are more capable

[crude brook]

Their quality

Platinum would do its job perfectly

[somber leaf]

Ok bet

[crude brook]

You also asked me to recommend for a SATA

That’s what I recommend

Ignore the Greek letters

I’m from Greece

😄

[somber leaf]

Was going to ask loll

That’s sick

[crude brook]

Yeah it is

Do you find it a good build? I think it’s under your budget

[somber leaf]

Yea it is

This is what I have rn

[sudden turret]

do you perhaps like hot wheels

[somber leaf]

Yes I do

[somber leaf]

This is what my pc currently look like. I got it from a friend that had most of it already built he just upgraded and left this stuff

[crude brook]

Oh my gosh this already looks a beast

The Hot Wheels will fit perfectly

[somber leaf]

It just needs power supply, gpu , and ssd

[somber leaf]

I have a couple lose cars that I will probably put in the case

This is the ssd for the boot drive I was looking at

Is PNY good

And is this worth it

[sudden turret]

you’d be better off asking @flint axle cause he knows a lot about pcs

but i’d say if you wanna save money get an nvidia 4090

[somber leaf]

I’m pretty sure those alone are going for hella money

i just checked and they where going for like 4k

[torpid obsidian]

Ye no, they’re way too expensive

[sudden turret]

holy

I thought they’d go for much less

[flint axle]

if you already got your ram, then the story is way different

you can get a 5070ti and a 9600x

you don't need more than an 850w psu, just make sure it's not garbage

[crude brook]

Yeah they are way more expensive. Now I’ll be real, since you won’t use Linux I’ll go for Nvidia. NVIDIA GPUs are usually better if you want the best ray tracing, DLSS (AI upscaling for more FPS), and things like streaming, video editing, and AI apps. They often cost a bit more.
AMD GPUs usually give more performance for the money and often have more VRAM at the same price, which is great for gaming. Their FSR upscaling works well too, but NVIDIA is still ahead in some features. To conclude, if you want the best performance in gaming then go for AMD. If you want more features then go for NVIDIA. I would perfectly recommend AMD as I said, but if you stream, edit, gaming then go for Nvidia. For just gaming then AMD. 😄 Also, about the PNY storage you showed me, it’s a solid choice and I think it will fit well. If you later on wanna expand the storage go for a SATA. Also the GPU u showed me. And RTX 5070 with 12GB VRAM is perfect. It can play some games in 4K, but I recommend playing in 1080p or 1440p for higher performance and FPS. It’s a great GPU. The only thing to be aware of is to ensure it fits your motherboard. Can you send me the motherboard model? So I let you know. 😄

[somber leaf]

Tbh idk what the mother board model is.

Ik it had a 4090 in it

Before I got it

[somber leaf]

Is it better to get a slightly larger psu such as 1000w?

[flint axle]

not worth it

[crude brook]

Yes it is since you’re more safe. Also it’s the best solution for future proofing

[flint axle]

futureproofing is a myth

you will use this gpu for 5+ years

[somber leaf]

Fair enough. I will get a 850w

[flint axle]

the fuck are you futureproofing

if you wanna futureproof for real, get a better gpu

[flint axle]

if you are using a 5070, i'm even inclined to say that 850w is overkill

although considering you already got your mobo, case and ram, you should get a 5070ti

that should leave you with about 500 bucks left for the cpu and psu

[somber leaf]

I already have a cpu. Just need ssd

And power

[flint axle]

how much does a 5070ti cost

[somber leaf]

800ish depending

[flint axle]

so you still got about 600 left

honestly at that point, you could either spend extra and get a 5080 or pocket the difference

although i don't recommend a 5080

[somber leaf]

Actually I lied close to a grand

[flint axle]

then stick with a 5070ti

the rest you could spend on a 2tb drive and a decent 850w psu

that's at least silver rated

also can i ask what monitor you have

[somber leaf]

That’s a down the line purchase. For now ima use a tv I have.

Just needs to play better then a Xbox and eventually I will get a new monitor

[crude brook]

I did a small research and for what you described you will need 850w without stressing the PC. But if you want full performance, over clocks, and all that stuff you will likely need 1000w

[flint axle]

you do not lmao

you can overclock a 5070ti just fine at 850w

[crude brook]

CPU FANS AIO and motherboard. Did you count them

[flint axle]

you will also undervolt it at the same time anyway

the cpu takes like 70w

max

the mobo isn't some power hungry component

[crude brook]

And as I said 1000w is the sweet spot, so I consider that

[flint axle]

1000w is copious and extremely overkill for a measly 5070ti build

a 5070ti only draws 300ish watts at its absolute peak

[crude brook]

His CPU Intel core i9 12900k takes 80-170w while gaming, and while stressing it gets 220w+

[flint axle]

yes you would still be left with over 300w to work with

[crude brook]

Motherboard? Fans? AIO?

[flint axle]

what kind of mobo and fans use up 300 watts???

you got fuckin turbines in your pc?

[crude brook]

AIO around 20W, fans around 30w, and motherboard and extras 50-80

Also to be safe you need 100- 150 w headroom, in case you add something. And you must never ever stress the PSU. It needs some headroom

Also the difference in prices is around 20-40 dollars, so why don’t you spend a little more money to be more sure?

[flint axle]

buddy you will never come close to fully saturating an 850w psu with a 5070ti

this is just pointless fearmongering

he isn't gonna use a 5080

[crude brook]

Yeah but I have to say that if he want any upgrades in the future the 1000w PSU will make him more comfortable

[flint axle]

if he is gonna upgrade his cpu, it wont be drawing more

[crude brook]

Also when you stress that pc it will go to 800w for sure

[flint axle]

cpus are more efficient now

[crude brook]

I didn’t say anything for cpu… I talk in general

[flint axle]

what else is he gonna upgrade

he wont be getting a new gpu for years and years

[crude brook]

Maybe in the future he would want to upgrade his GPU, or his AIO, or add more parts

[flint axle]

that still won't add up to 200w

never

[crude brook]

And that’s still in the limit

[flint axle]

also define what "stress" means

he is just gonna be gaming

[crude brook]

AAA games…. Overclocks…

[flint axle]

lmfao

overclocking your cpu isn't worth it

nvidia gpus don't draw up a lot mroe when overclocked

[crude brook]

Are you sure

[flint axle]

look up blackwell overclocks

they seriously don't go that high

[crude brook]

Cause I have tried that and believe me it’s a huge upgrade you get around 20-40 fps more depending on the overclock

[flint axle]

in terms of power draw it's not a lot more

nvidia leaves a lot of power on the table

and if you are serious about overclocking in any way you will undervolt anyway so it counterbalances

[crude brook]

I don’t get that.. that’s the point of overclock, to get you GPU or CPU at the limit

[flint axle]

that's not how that works

[crude brook]

There’s no gamer I know who doesn’t overclock his GPU and CPU even once

[flint axle]

cpu overclocking is completely irrelevant nowadays

the gain is nonexistent

the cpu already overclocks itself when it needs to

even gpu overclocking is starting to lose relevance

[crude brook]

I do t believe that, overclocking the CPU and GPU can give you more power at 3D modeling and gaming, expecting around 10-15% more power

[flint axle]

it's true, that's how cpus and gpus are designed now

there is almost no benefit to overclocking nowadays

you are just shoving more power into it for nothing

[crude brook]

Yeah that’s why I consider 1000w. I don’t say 850w is not good, it’s good. But it’s the limit. The sweet spot is 1000. But 850w can do its job

[flint axle]

again, it's absolutely not the limit

you have so much headroom to play with at 850w, you aren't using a 5080 or 5090

you are just flushing money down the toilet

[crude brook]

Ok dude, this conversation won’t make any sense. I’ll say again. 850w is good. 1000w is the best. @somber leaf , if you want more headroom for upgrades in the future and constantly overclock, get 1000w. If you want to be able to use the pc with slightly overclock, then go for 850w

[somber leaf]

Ok

[sudden turret]

cpus are already overclocked out of the box

[crude brook]

No they are set to auto

[sudden turret]

no

they're basically already overclocked out of the box since manufacturers push it to almost the max it can go

[crude brook]

I also asked ChatGPT to be more sure so you can believe me

And I did a little research on Reddit

[sudden turret]

what sources did it use

[crude brook]

Intel and AMD official resources

[flint axle]

there is no point in overclocking modern cpus other than to flex on benchmarks

none

the real world gains are utterly insignificant and you are just driving up power consumption for nothing

not to mention all the instability and possible damage you could be doing by shoving more voltage into the thing

[sudden turret]

hmm

[crude brook]

I’m not sure about that, every gamer overclocks their CPU. If you overclock it on a safe limit, nothing can happen. Same for GPU.

[sudden turret]

this is what i meant:

Modern CPUs already boost to the edge of what cooling and silicon can handle.

https://futurion.blog/what-overclocking-your-cpu-actually-buys-you-today/

[crude brook]

That’s way more different than what you told me

[sudden turret]

yeah ik, i said what i said wrong

also wait a sec we're supposed to be helping tis guy

[crude brook]

Yeah exactly. The guy needs to know which PSU to get and you are arguing about the CPU overclock. @somber leaf we are sorry about that

[sudden turret]

yeah i apologise

[crude brook]

Me too dude, it’s both our fault 😄

[flint axle]

sorry to burst your bubble, but no gamer overclocks their cpu nowadays

gpu overclocking on the other hand is piss easy and is essentially a free 5% or so in performance

https://www.xda-developers.com/overclocking-is-dead-and-modern-cpus-are-the-culprits/

in case you wanna have a read on why

[somber leaf]

yall are good lollllll