This idle stone overcharge nerf is giving up end game folks a horrible time.
Remember the game is "idle slayer" not "active slayer".
#Reverse the idle stone overcharge nerf
violet rover
velvet zinc
oh no, now it's (somewhat) balanced 
Why would a single upgrade be a +1,000% buff for little to no effort just because the player happened to be "in the know"
It's still an +82% speed buff, it's very good even after the nerf.
grave sun
I guess one of the reason he nerfs it is because the new book is pretty good. I hope cdj can make a comparision between offline soul now vs that when idle is not nerfed and there's no book (I'm kinda lazy with the calc lol). I think with the new balance change to upgrades that increase offline reward like monolith or soul vase, more offline drop chance or offline kill quests upgrades can be added to make things easier. And for the fat that the game will definitely not end with clearance there should be more upgrades in the future that would make this nerf to make sense.
velvet zinc
or staff or anything else ever since April 2024
it's been a long time coming
velvet zinc
correction, it was June July 2024 that Overcharge was implemented
#📢announcements message
So, everything since then huh?
Clearance, Shuriken, Staff, and all the other Astral Key goodies were introduced in mid-October.
(Staff by itself more than covers the -30% offline souls, and it was so new that hardly anyone had it by the time the first nerf was attempted weeks later. There also hasn't been a single "most expensive upgrade" added since Clearance, which wasn't much of an obstacle to begin with.)
March 2025 - panzo and fishing rod. small buffs? w/e
July 2025 - packed souls, evolved minions and two new evos for valley. more money.
September 2025 - Grapple Run. With it, more passive souls bonuses (4% + 10% offline) and books themselves can more than double souls again. This also added Soul Brooch (+10% Souls) and Spear Edge, boosting offline souls specifically.
December 2025 - The Soul Stone Guardian boss, with it came a skill tree upgrade of +15% souls.
February 2026 - present day. Reduced maximum offline slay interval by 5.5x, increase offline souls themselves by nearly 4x. (+386%)
so souls are just fine. More than fine. Even if I were to get twenty soul bonuses in a day (never) and use every relevant craftable every time, let alone having the mats for that, offline would still give more souls... on top of not having to spend any luck, materials, or even effort.
I'd like to note again that the goalpost hasn't been moved since Oct 2024 with Clearance (10 Qi) which was a slight nudge compared to the prior Wind / Coimbo Release (1 Qi) of March 2024.
I'd like to think that with this over with, we can finally ascend to greater heights.
restive sky
Even with the 30% nerf 10qi is nothing
I think to have a challange he'd at least need to add an sx upgrade which is 100× as much as the highest rn so funnily enough even removing idle overcharge and the 3 offline soul upgrades he buffed would make clearance reachable
mighty bough
correction, it was ~~June~~ July 2024 that Overcharge was implemented
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This should be a pin and or top feedback at all times.
violet rover
The stone of idle overcharge isn't so much about the souls but rather it is a very fast way to get your materials.
Now that it has been nerfed it is so difficult to get materials now
velvet zinc
it sure was
that was the main reason it needed to be nerfed, I imagine
(again, why would it make sense for a single upgrade to reduce the amount of time to compltetly refill a material from 4 hours to 20 minutes)
actually hold on a sec...
huh. yeah just under four hours at most (the "3.96" on the right)
before overcharge nerf:
and after, version 6.7.0:
plus, how often are you running out of slimes? we live in Frozen Fields. On the flip side, you'd have to use 33 rage pills to run out of roots.
(sorry, I did this whole song and dance on the subreddit lol)
tl;dr recouping the mats after 33 rage pills by just being offline in jungle for 2 hours and 12 minutes isn't so bad imo. A lot more reasonable than... going from four hours to 22 minutes with just one otherwise normal upgrade.
okay I'm done yapping lol 
restive sky
I think even 2h is an amount of time thatmakes whetstones only use goblin cloth
dreamy lily
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