#PLEASE EASIER SCRAP OR MAKE STUFF THAT NEEDS TONS LESS

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regal grail
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This could js be a skill issue but I'm sure many people agree

it is genuinely making me quite after gridning for weeks for hammelia uograde to upgrade staff then being all exited to do new village context i need 200 scrap witch will take months i cannot do this or keep on doing this is the game continues needing mass amount of scrap that is completely luck based and very very low it makes gameplay boring getting a item and it its useless

Ua keys are fine for things to cost they can actually be grinded locking away new content for weeks of grinding is horrible i know this game is all about grinding but it's so annoying going 10 assendind heights with dark divinity on and NO chest or when I get a random box after like 50 no item or getting shields i get armoury items being locked behind chance but their needs to be a new way for scrap someone can go weeks without getting a single armoury items even with active if they just have bad luck and i have REALLY bad luck

I was enjoying this game for ages but scrap just seems so unattainable it's all luck

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Sorry if this sounded any rude btw

plucky seal
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It's a one-time investment, you can overcome this.

plucky seal
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(There are numerous ways to increase the drop rate of items. You also mentioned crafting Armory Items, try crafting the ones that don't require Scrap themselves.)

regal grail
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8-12~ scrap a week is still ab 20 weeks

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Also feathers are needed for a majority of upgrades aswell sometimes can't use them on items

regal grail
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even with boss portal for guaranteed

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Still takes way to long

regal grail
regal grail
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I also lost 80 scrap to a glitch

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When I originally waa gonna get the upgrade

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By the time I get this "one time investment" their will be more things i will need scrap for

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with the week I grinded and had like ar 20 hours screen time on this i had 80 I am NOT losing my life to this it's a milestone when theirs already 4 different other things I need to work on

spare dome
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2 months..you get like 2 bonus stages a day from the dd
Activating victor too
That's almost 10 scrap a day when playing 5min/day

plucky seal
# regal grail 8-12~ scrap a week is still ab 20 weeks

... that's only two or three items per week. You could get about two per day with just Special Promise.
edit: did you account for only breaking items that you were able to craft because you did your Weekly Quest? get real.

regal grail
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I get on alot for minions

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I can't get multible when I log on every 2 ish hours for mini9ns

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Alao first bonus stage isn't guaranteed to be a item aswell added on not always having scales for badge

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My argument is valid

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Scrap is hard

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Jt shouldn't be locked behind pure luck for weeks or no luck or normal luck for months

spare dome
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You aren't hard locked though
Your refusal to play/not claim minions is making it difficult
I mean the minions part I can understand but with so many ways to gain armory it isn't that difficult
With normal luck you can get like 20 scarp/h

regal grail
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?

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I am playing

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I claim my minions as soon as their done

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Thats why I can't get daily armoury items

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If I play a hout every day I still don't get a guaranteed itme

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Item

regal grail
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I've had many times where i been grinding

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For scrap

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And i don't get any in a hour

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Or a sword or 2

regal grail
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And some nights j WONT wake up with one bec i log of and go bed and wake up bec i got extreme insomnia 💔

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8 hours on monday

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Last week

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This is how long it took for 80 Scrap

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I'm not coming

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Joking

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With your 20 scrap a hour i should've been done in 4 hours

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I'm not doing this amm over 3 weeks for 200

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Anddd this week I've slowed down

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Only 19 scrap to my name

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Is this not enough proof that my point about scrap is hard?

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It is unrealistic goals

spare dome
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Just cause it's a long grind doesn't make it unrealistic
20mil fire enemies takes long. So do all gemstone achievments
And yeah while both of those may not be required, the coup isn't yet either and by the time it is you will definitly have the scrap

regal grail
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It is diffrent than quest or achievements it is locking gameplay behind the time period

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They will justboost stats this unlocks new things added such as the quest

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Is it unreasonable to lock months just to get quest that will take a long time to do? Yes.

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Theirs sno specific reward for completing the coop apart from the quest that you still need to complete

spare dome
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I really do not know how to feel about this
With normal rng you really get finish it in 5h
And it's not like you will have to grind those 5h only for scrap and nothing else in the game
You get better armory items, gems for gemstone achievements, can do dailies, weeklies, normal quest

plucky seal
spare dome
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You put a lot on restraint on the whole "farming scrap" thing
Like claiming minions, having horrible rng, playing very little, not using feathers

fading goblet
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200 scrap is a lot guys, get real

stone bobcat
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Is not a lot at that stage tho. I'm way behind that stage (i haven't even unlocked Amelia's upgrade) and I have a spare 400 scrap.
You shold gt 3 items or even more per day, how much is gat? 12-15 outside weekly quest?
It should be fair plausible to get 25 items per week. In 2-3 week you should get enough items to get o 200. My estimate does NOT consider Victor's rings!!!

Il get like 1-3 stages per day
3-4 ascending height
3-4 chest hunt

With victor and the bonus for ascending height that's on average around 5 items per day without crafting any

If you want to get 200 scrap for the upgrade, stop spending them and play more

plucky seal
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(it's cool, I know he's joking) petgc

fading goblet
regal grail
regal grail
regal grail
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I quit literally get one every 10 or so

regal grail
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I did a bit ago but LOST it to a glitch

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I need scrap for everything

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I can't use it for souls bec i meed to save it for coop and more staffs

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God forbid I open 10 chest no excellent

regal grail
regal grail
mint edge
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Hmm i do believe that getting enough scrap are quite difficuly, especially there were a period of 2 month where i literally have zero scrap

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but after getting viktor alpha there really are a abundant of scrap

regal grail
mint edge
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like if u can reliably kill him in less then 90s u can get a excellent rinh

regal grail
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Yeah I was doing that to grind scrap

mint edge
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so once per day it took roughly a month for chicken

regal grail
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Just i get a bonus stage like every 30 boxes like went through 250 ina day and only had 3 random boxes 😭😭😭😭

regal grail
mint edge
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average out to about 5 per day with only log in once when waking up (assume u sleep 8h)

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40 day huh

regal grail
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bro I'm not going through 250 boxes everyday😭😭

regal grail
mint edge
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For me this game is pretty much for relaxation so i can afford to wait 40 days for sth like that

regal grail
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If I have alpha its technically 6 scrap a day so ar 3x66~ so 66 days

mint edge
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? cant u kill victor in less than 90s to get a excellent ring for 6 scrap?

regal grail
regal grail
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But 50/50

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So 3 a day

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If every 2nd

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I refuse to leave minions unclaimed for the other 8 hour box

mint edge
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hard yeah

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honestly best strategy in my opinion would be to start farming astral key

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sooner or later u would have to do this anyway

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start now and use that active time both to farm scrap and astral key

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also double div so there is that

spare dome
regal grail
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Just rounded to 2 49 bec one day I didn't do as much

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And that was a comparison of when I was grinding

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And when I finnaly got hammelixa and then needed 200 more scra0

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Bec I didn't wanna play the game

spare dome
regal grail
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80

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And I used non

spare dome
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In that whole week?

regal grail
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Yes

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That's what im saying

spare dome
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That's just incredible unlucky

regal grail
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My whole rng

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Yes

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That's what I've been saying🙏🙏🙏🙏

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It's like this normally for me bruh

spare dome
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Mhm..

regal grail
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I wish I was joking bruh

spare dome
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Well
I got nothing more to say

regal grail
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😔

stone bobcat
# fading goblet not everyone plays as much as anyone on this discord server, recognise the bias ...

It's ok to not play as much as other players, but if you play just a bit you should not complain of not getting something that you can only get by playing

I can understand complaint about not getting the right armory item, but here we are talking about not getting any, when there are all the tools to get plenty

Like I said 50/50 chance of getting victor boss every like 10 minutes of playing you should already getting two pieces in an hour and even if you don't get victor, you could just get a sword/bow from the bonus stage, so I think it's highly probable to get at least 3

You can get the same amount of chest in a chest, but that's a lot less likely to get an item

AH is 45% of getting an item and again 10 minutes? Maybe one every 15? You should get other two pieces from that. And this is without counting crafting any

5 items per day is 20 scrap (no excellent) and in 10 days you get 200

What I'm saying is that if you actually play a lot to get something specific you can only get by playing is one thing. But if start to get scrap by other sources it means that:
scrap became abundant and to fix it, the price of scrap increase(temp items cost more scrap) making the original source of scraps less important

It's ok to have a different perspective and it's ok to disagree. I don't think the game needs another source of scrap. If you want to get 200 scrap, you should save them up. Not asking for more. It's like asking your boss for a rise because you want to buy a new car. What boss would tell you "here is the money, I'm proud of you" instead of "ehm... Save them up"

I think you get enough because I do play like an hour per day everyday, sometimes even more. He thinks he can't. It's ok to think differently

I honestly have a lot more trouble with eyes, I don't get many chips to buy them while I get plenty of frozen shards from ascending height (I'm full of shard and no reptiles eyes)

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That's because by playing a lot, I get to the top of ascending height quite a lot and on average I do get 15 shard, but I can get chips only once per day and sometimes due to luck I don't get any. I'm just stocking up scrap and shard while trying to get a good armory piece to level up (exe change is very low and getting the good options is not easy either, getting both? Quite hard). But I still have to get the upgrade for the ring of luck, get the dark divinity for ascending height and a lot of a bunch of stuff

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Morale of the story. Everyone think differently based on their circumstances, I have my and they have theirs

fading goblet
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i didnt say anything about requirements being reduced or drop rate increased or anything, i said "200 scrap is a lot guys, get real"

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buddy plays an hour a day and thinks you can talk to people who might play an hour a week? or an hour a month?

plucky seal
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In this case, they're at least active enough to constantly check minions and do their dailies (so them being low on dragon scales baffles me)

regal grail
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I've stated many times that I'm not inactive i di play ALOT hour a day w hours a day cant play all day when have stuff to do

regal grail
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if this is any sort of proof I have over 21 thousand random boxes out only 900 bonus stages complete

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I have gotten 400 armoury items

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I have doner over 200 accrnd8ng heights

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I have well over a thousand chest hints

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ok?

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i do do the stuff to get them

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I just dont

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Plus all my weekly quest that I've definitely crafted atleast 50
31 weekly quest with a minimum of 6 feathers and using 3 on boots is still 62 out of those 400

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Not including when I have gotten over 6 or crafter stuff that isn't 3 ? - 4 from a staff upgrade and some from old perm cratables

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And YES the accending heigut chance is 20% for me bec i turned the dd of the other day bec i was sick and tired of it

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Literally had a max 20 daggers

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I also don't know if those stat's count victor so that could also proof what I'm saying

plucky seal
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Nah, game doesn't keep track of boss fights
(outside of the first victory, for the sake of the achievement)

regal grail
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Yeah alr that would be a good tgunf to add imo

stone bobcat
# regal grail if this is any sort of proof I have over 21 thousand random boxes out only 900 b...

The bonus stage Is not just a random chance, you get every X minutes one. And that value of X is limited so if you miss it or okay 5 minutes every time you play (e.g. if you play 5 mins 30 times in a day it's completely different from 30 mins 5 times in a day. In the second case you get 5 guaranteed stages and the first one maybe just one if you were offline for more than 13 hours)

It's not just about how much you play, but also how you are playing

You can also get the guaranteed armory piece in the bonus stage with the temp craft item. You seem a lot more past me (sorry for the wording, I don't remember how it's said), so I honestly feel like you are not managing the resources well enough

1000 chest hunt with 0.5% chance is not the way to go for scrap definitely (on average is just 5 out of those 400)
The best way is to either go for the guaranteed bonus stage or do the hard ascending height (45% chance compared to the 0.5% of chest hunt)
If you can't craft the badge for the bonus stage try to play at least until you get it every time you play. Especially the first time of the day that you are guaranteed a special box if you haven play for 13 hours.

404 items broken is more than 1.6 scraps that you have actually spent

Btw those 940 bonus stages is since you started playing the game when armory wasn't even a thing and from when the chances were just 4%(before the ring of luck)

When I can play I'll do some screenshots to compare too

stone bobcat
plucky seal
plucky seal
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At best, it's an 84% chance to get an item at the end. Close enough, but that's not the point.

Point is, yes 200 Scrap is a lot.
That's okay, this is near the end of the game and is currently the final quest.

It should feel difficult.

Of the materials, the scrap is the only one that means anything difficulty-wise, the others are all freebies.

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regal grail
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I've been playing less active and relying on bonus stage divintiy like yous said and im at 120 scrap now

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I've been playing a lot less js focusing on armoury items