#What do you think is better? Miracles? Pyromancies or Sorceries?

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desert ginkgo
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Thinking of doing a spell build, not sure which one to do

dire belfry
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MIRACLES

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Pyromancies second and sorceries third

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My god sorceries are so whack in ds3

prisma niche
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pyromancy is more versatile than miracles are

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there is only one boss that has exceptionally high absorption for both fire and dark

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miracles also don't get any good options until further in the game with the best being from the final boss

dire belfry
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But that's only because you level faith and I feel like there's much better faith weapons in this game when compared to int

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ig it is subjective

prisma niche
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pyromancies > miracles > sorceries

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the best "pure" faith weapons are lightning infusions and dark/chaos infusions outperform those when the targets absorptions are not disproportionately in favor of lightning damage

dire belfry
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Eh

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I'll be frank I've never used pyromancies outside of fgms ;-;

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imo miracles just do way more dmg for pvp

prisma niche
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I've been talking about PvE

dire belfry
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Who said that was the topic?

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Pve pyro takes the cake fs

prisma niche
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it's generally what people are talking about if it's not specified

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it's a PvE game that is over 9 years old

dire belfry
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Op just said build

prisma niche
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yes

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that is not specified

dire belfry
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So the topic in regards would be overall build correct?

prisma niche
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even in the context of PvP pyro is better

dire belfry
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Extremely debatle icl

prisma niche
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there are two pyromancies that were banned for tournaments

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there is one offensive miracle that was banned

dire belfry
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stake and sunlight spear do an absurd amount of damage

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but thats in a tourney

prisma niche
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it doesn't matter how much damage something does when it's only hitting someone who has their monitor off

dire belfry
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This guy plays casually almsot guaranteed

prisma niche
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there is no point in discussing what works on the average random because everything works

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the overwhelming majority of people who play the game are not good at PvP

dire belfry
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Sure but some things work more efficiently then others

prisma niche
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Demon's Scar + Fire Surge and Black Flame is more efficient than anything miracles do

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throw in Chaos Bed Vestiges for ganking because it doesn't have damageCount for hitstun reduction on consecutive hits

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miralces also don't have anything like that

dire belfry
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Okay but the person in question is casual

prisma niche
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if someone is going to walk into sunlight spear or lightning stake they'll walk into black flame

dire belfry
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I mean

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true

prisma niche
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the difference is that if someone is not going to walk into the former then the latter still functions

dire belfry
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But sunlight does do a bit more dmg

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It's all pretty subjective icl

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depends on your skill level

prisma niche
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that is fair, if you've got poor fundamentals it is easier to hyper armor trade than whiff punish or interrupt

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either way, though, 9/10 times when someone does not specify PvP they are talking about PvE

woven inlet
dire belfry
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Reading comprehension

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Lol

woven inlet
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so it seems

prisma niche
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(idk what I was thinking btw, it was only one offensive pyro and one offensive miracle)

woven inlet
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ye, never heard of black flame being banned

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also lightning arrow isnt necessarily banned for being a strong offensive option, just that it essentially forces a stalemate

lime sinew
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Holy shit this was a read

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@viral tulip is this what I sound like

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Have I been doing this to people