#SteamVR already running, high latency when it worked

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wanton willow
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Hello, I am a quest 2 user and oculus link has become completely unusable on v76 (frame rate dips down to 60 in headset for no reason, no ASW related to my knowledge) I tried to move to ALVR to fix it, and that did fix the frame rate issue, but I have high latency (I play beat saber, and 80 mills makes the game unplayable), how do I get SteamVR working, and how can I lower the latency in wired mode.
Thanks

wanton willow
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steamvr is still not working...

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also the latency was abnormally high, it said alvr was adding 20 mills of additional overhead

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I would take a screenshot but steam vr is not working so I can't

wanton willow
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if anyone has anymore advice for me can you please ping me, thanks

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I don't remember, but I need to fix steam vr before I can even consider the issue with the latency

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oh wait I got steam vr fixed

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that was super weird

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I don't know how I fixed it

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hope it stays fixed

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here is the breakdown

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it's lower for some reason... I don't know what happened

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I will try to play a game, see if it's a mess or not

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the delay for me considering it unplayable is very low, link only just about shoots under that, until today anyways

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well

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a week ago

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after v76/v77 dropped

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that broke it

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game is very playable now

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it was double this when I made the ticket

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however...

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it looks like it's buffering or something

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is there a way I can turn it off?

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I would rather have stutter

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by the way, if you didn't see the tag, I am doing it over USB

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so that might be the reason

wanton willow
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ok

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one more thing...

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any way I can make the streamer start when I plug my headset in?

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sounds imposable, but it's worth a shot to ask

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could scirpt it myself if you don't have a way

wanton willow
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Yeah I saw all that

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Just one piece missing to make it better in every way compared to meta's shitty offering

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You would need a background service

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Yeah

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I can spin something up sometime soon

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As a demo

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Yeah, I can do that

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Later though, it's 1:30 am

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And I have errands to run tomorrow

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So I'll get around to it, won't forget though

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I have been in need of a new project to work on now that school is out

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Even if it's relatively small compared to what I normally do

wanton willow
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hi again,

enabling buffering doesn't smooth it out, is there a setting I am missing? Or is there no way to get this to be smooth. There is a specific reason why I am wondering

wanton willow
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Setting it to 1 frame and 10 frames has the same staircaseing

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I might misunderstand what you said before

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I've tried all the numbers

wanton willow
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Like... a screenshot? Of the graph? Or of the setting

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Yeah, give me a second

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yeah I am aware

wanton willow
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this one

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it isn't the high latency that isn't the issue I think, it's the inconsistency

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the specific issue I am running in to is that playing high bpm jumps in beat saber is almost imposable when they are done for an extended duration. Maps I have been able to FC for years are now imposable to even pass on ALVR, so I'm pretty sure it's not a skill issue (could be, but I highly doubt it). I can still play them on oculus link just fine (on my laptop only, oculus link is broken on my desktop, that's why I switched to ALVR).

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340+

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only map I have played less than that was 270 and I didn't have an issue

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oh lmao

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the... bitrate?

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or something else

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340+ bpm, I don't have another way to express it

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notes per second?

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I have no idea because it tells you for the entire song, not just the jump sections

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let me see if arc viewer says

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I am sure that it's not a skill issue, because I don't have the same issue on my laptop

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the only thing I haven't tried to fix oculus link is reinstalling windows, and I don't want to do that

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5-6 nps and 360+ bpm doesn't really add up to me

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yeah I know the math but from playing the game that doesn't make sense

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very much not, bpm is fixed to the song, nps is fixed to the notes

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they almost never correlate

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when it comes to expressing streams and jumps you use bpm normally

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let me get some reaplays to show what I'm talking about

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give me a second

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wait I forgot you have to pay for beat leader to get them

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but it doesn't really matter the specifics

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also

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it's only speed maps that I can't play, and only when they hold a timing on one hand for a long time (over 3 seconds ish)

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and sadly, speed maps are my best skillset 😭

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you have to pay to get non full replay links

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this has always been a thing

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oculus link on the laptop

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on my pc oculus link runs at 60 fps for no reason

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it's not spacewarp, because there is no video errors that are common with spacewarp

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I can send the replay files

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you can upload them to arcviewer

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old oculus link replay

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this score is like 6 months old

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I'll set a new score on my laptop for a direct comparison

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I would record these live but recording the game causes unplayable lag because the GPU encoder can't do more than one stream without freaking out

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everything is breaking on my laptop

I'll be back with 2 videos, one full playthough of some song, one on alvr, one on oculus link (on my laptop). Give me like 20 minutes

wanton willow
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I was gonna send video but uhh...

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it stopped

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max buffering is still set to 1 frame

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just fire up oculus link on my laptop

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got a score (400pp choke due to laptop lag spike)

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then moved to my pc

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and played... and still performed well

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I thought it was just a skill issue that I had overcome or something

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thought I was crazy

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didn't check the stats untill I posted about it

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the frame buffer is still being weird but it's different now

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I don't miss full steams anymore though

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this isn't stutttering

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the frame buffer just switches between 1-2 mills to 8 mills for no reason

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it stays like that, consistantly, for a few seconds

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I have no idea what's going on lol

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this software is black magic to me

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like with video codecs?

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like the devs of alvr don't control a lot of what's going on here?

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ohhh

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there is one thing that's different

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my active cable isn't plugged in

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it's still wired the headset just doesn't charge

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yeah nothing changed

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wait what?

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am I on usb 2??

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shouldn't be...

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normally it can hit 400

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something weird is going on

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I'll do some more looking and post any findings here

wanton willow
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it's at 400 now

wanton willow
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problem came back after I restarted my computer

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honestly think it might be worth it to reinstall windows to get oculus link working again...

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assuming a windows reinstall fixes I don't actually know if that will

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by the way, I would like to say the following

I do like this project, and this issue only applies to one specific skillset on one specific game. ALVR, ignoring the issue I have ran into (after getting everything else working), has been much better than oculus link. I haven't run into crashes, proper lag spikes, or long startup times like I do on oculus link. Having a way to use SteamVR instead of the Oculus OpenXR runtime is so nice (I had to write a mod for beat saber in order to rebind the pause button, SteamVR just lets you rebind it in the settings).

I hope that one day this issues will get ironed out ||pun intended||, even if I get oculus link working again I would switch back to ALVR in a heartbeat because it's a much more seamless experience.