That I don't remember having before Quest 2's v50s (I'm on Pico 4 Pro now). What's up with that? The micro stutters begin even when I go a little further than 500.
#Stutters on 1000 Mbps
violet venture
violet venture
Hell, even 450 will start to micro-stutter after a bit
crimson holly
Yeah, Same thing happens to me whenever I do 300 and up.
warm halo
with what codec and connection?
violet venture
with what codec and connection?
Wired, h264
Don't think you can achieve 1 Gbps with wireless and h265 xD
warm halo
with hevc you should target 150-200
its much more efficient - thus more suitable for use over wireless connection
just use presets, dont touch bitrate slider or it will get messed up
what does statistics graph show when it stutters?
i dunno what decode is like on pico 4 pro - but all these headsets have some limit - and when it artifacts or stutters thats a sign
quest2 and quest3 seem to have similar limit of 150-200 hevc
i only use wireless and only use hevc
violet venture
HEVC looks terrible even on 150 and on 200 it starts to have higher latency while still looking not the best (maybe because of AMD)
And I remember on Quest 2 it was smooth as hell with 1 Gbps over wire before Zucc decided to mess ALVR up and introduce the "snow" artefact
And as I see on Pico this artefact is not present
So I would like to find out what happened, why it now stutters like that when the first time 1 Gbps was introduced to ALVR it was buttery smooth
violet venture
what does statistics graph show when it stutters?
warm halo
you might be right - i can only comment on my experience with nvidia 3090/4090 and quest2/3
dont have amd card to do comparison
usually problem is on headset side - pc has no problem encoding it
unless you have certain special cards that i cant mention without triggering the bot
violet venture
but the thing is it never was like that before I gave up on ALVR with Q2's snow flake artefact
warm halo
alvr just uses the hardware of your system
violet venture
RX 6800 XT
warm halo
and so do the other vr programs
violet venture
I know
warm halo
if you mouseover the stat graph when it stutters can you observe what is causing it?
is it pc render or pc encode or headset decode or network?
violet venture
it seems like it has something to do with frame buffering
warm halo
ive read reports about this stuttering a lot lately
@blazing rain @wild timber sus
please try different versions of alvr and tell devs if you think some version is better
you can use the alvr launcher to easily download and install different versions
violet venture
I am not exactly new to ALVR xD
warm halo
good - so you know how to reset to defaults and do clean tests
violet venture
ye
violet venture
please try different versions of alvr and tell devs if you think some version is...
Around what version people started complaining about these stutters?
Might be better for me to just jump on there
warm halo
but you are comparing two different headsets right? should not expect same result
variables are encoder performance on pc side - and decode performance on headset side
quest2 decode performance we all know - and alvr presets target majority use-case
what is different about pico 4 pro?
violet venture
but you are comparing two different headsets right? should not expect same resul...
no
violet venture
what is different about pico 4 pro?
No snowflake artefacts at all
warm halo
so it has better decode?
that means you can pump it more
1000 is rookie numbers it seems
violet venture
on q2 before v54-55 it was the same except the stutters
warm halo
just hit it with more until you see artifacts or stutters
and make sure to use high entropy test not low entropy (ie static scene)
in fact dont even bother testing unless its something with very good graphcis and action (not beat saber)
violet venture
Around what version people started complaining about these stutters?
but do you know? @warm halo
warm halo
nope but i see other people compaining
use old version of alvr if the new one is a problem
violet venture
seems like on 20.10.0 there is no stutter at all
blazing rain
seems like on 20.10.0 there is no stutter at all
Do you think you could bisect further using nightlies? Otherwise this will never be fixed
violet venture
Do you think you could bisect further using nightlies? Otherwise this will never...
you mean from 20 nightlies move up to the latest and see when exactly this problem came?
violet venture
Finally got away from the Zuccy ecosystem of botching updates to the point of affecting hardware
brazen blade
Have you tested the nightlies yet
solemn ivy
but the thing is it never was like that before I gave up on ALVR with Q2's snow ...
I don’t know if we’re talking about the same snowflake artefact but personally it was due to FFE and since the rust rewrite it got fixed
I had a sort of white streaks across the screens
warm halo
the bitrate behavior is completely different in lastest nightlies
so whatever settings were good in the past are not gonna be good now probably - tune your settings again
blazing rain
I don’t know if we’re talking about the same snowflake artefact but personally i...
It may have been another fix, that happened around the same time of the rust rewrite. Yoyobuae made some changes to the shader to make it less heavy
solemn ivy
the bitrate behavior is completely different in lastest nightlies
bitrate mode has been on constant 30Mbps for months lol
warm halo
in latest nightlies that actually does what it says and thus image looks bad