I keep on getting this error

[main wigeon]

what should i do

[jaunty cedar]

provide more info

is pc using ethernet?

is version of alvr matched on pc and headset?

did u try restarting both pc and headset?

is there vpn active on pc?

is pc network connection set to private?

[main wigeon]

Oh

Hi

@jaunty cedar still here?

So the pc is using Wi-Fi

[jaunty cedar]

yes please answer all the critical questions above

ok this is your problem

plug a cable in

pc should not use wifi

[main wigeon]

Wait

But i cant

The Wi-Fi router is too far it was working with Wi-Fi for days before this

[jaunty cedar]

do you have a laptop?

if so just pick it up and move it closer

[main wigeon]

No pc

[jaunty cedar]

if you have a pc - then why are you using wifi on a pc seriously?

fix your router settings to disable client isolation

[main wigeon]

How?

[jaunty cedar]

and realise you are double dipping on wifi

read hte manual for your router

[main wigeon]

Also why did it work before and not now?

[jaunty cedar]

i have no idea - routers are weird about this

[main wigeon]

Hmm

[main wigeon]

?

[jaunty cedar]

only one device can use wifi at a given instant

[main wigeon]

But i have a family that uses it at the same time

[jaunty cedar]

so you are throwing performance and latency away

thats even worse and definitely hte cause

most cheap routers only have one radio, and they cannot serve high performance vr at same time as older wifi versions

[main wigeon]

I have good router

[jaunty cedar]

expensive routers with multiple radios can handle it better

even so its better to have dedicated wifi router

[main wigeon]

I have a Wi-Fi booster

[jaunty cedar]

all you need to do is plug a cable in its that easy

[main wigeon]

In my room

[jaunty cedar]

oh hit lol

hahah oh wow

now you are quadruple dipping

[main wigeon]

We have lots of Wi-Fi boosters

[jaunty cedar]

wifi booster halves your performance again

forget about it

[main wigeon]

BRU what

[jaunty cedar]

use a usb cable instead

or buy a dedicated router for vr

[main wigeon]

Hell no i am not doing that

[jaunty cedar]

mesh networks or wifi repeaters are no good for this

[main wigeon]

Wait im confused

It works for air link but not this

[jaunty cedar]

sure if noone else is using network

maybe you get some performance but not full

[main wigeon]

I can do performance test

And tell u the score

[jaunty cedar]

use virtual desktop its the best for performance

airlink is no good anyway

[main wigeon]

Money nonono

[jaunty cedar]

what settings are you using anyway?

trying to use h264 over a crippled network is not gonna be good

[main wigeon]

Just normal with lowest press

[jaunty cedar]

that doesnt mean anything

[main wigeon]

Oh

Wait what

[jaunty cedar]

if u set everything to the lowest then this is how u got it to work

you have very low bandwidth but you can run at potato settings

[main wigeon]

No i mean alvr settings

[jaunty cedar]

look at your statistics graph - it will show you what is wrong

probably shows network latency is awful

[main wigeon]

In alvr?

[jaunty cedar]

because of all those wifi boosters

yes

[main wigeon]

No my latency is good

8ms

[jaunty cedar]

what is your bitrate?

[main wigeon]

Is 8ms good?>

[jaunty cedar]

thats normal but its not constant

[main wigeon]

144.17 mb/s download

[jaunty cedar]

thats not bad

[main wigeon]

I did 2 tests

[jaunty cedar]

but spikes are the issue

[main wigeon]

24.44 mb/s upload

[jaunty cedar]

upload is not used

did you just test internet speed?

[main wigeon]

I do it multiple times and it says 8ms every time

[jaunty cedar]

why are you testing internet speed?

[main wigeon]

Ye

[jaunty cedar]

this is not using your internet

[main wigeon]

To tell u my latency

[jaunty cedar]

why do you think internet is involved?

this is inside your home

not the internet

[main wigeon]

Huh?

U were just talking about my Wi-Fi

[jaunty cedar]

your pc and headset are both in your home on your wifi

how is this the internet?

[main wigeon]

Yes

Ohhh i did internet speed test

I need to do Wi-Fi speed test?

[jaunty cedar]

its speed between pc and headset we care about

[main wigeon]

Ohhh

[main wigeon]

So how i check ?

[jaunty cedar]

we dont care about your internet speed at all - you could even be offline for this (so long as its not multiplayer game)

you have a fancy wifi network, it probably has some diagnostic page

[main wigeon]

How yk i have fancy Wi-Fi>

[jaunty cedar]

you have lots of boosters and so on

someone has bought a lot of gear and set it up

[main wigeon]

Oh

I can tell u the router i think

[jaunty cedar]

i have an asus router and it has an app that shows all the diagnostics

anyway - the recommendations are same - plug a cable in

mesh networks are not good for vr - if you move from one cell to another it will disconnect you probably

like that error you are seeing - maybe related to wifi boosters or cells

u can buy a cheap router and just put that beside your pc, it doesnt need an expensive one

it just needs one free from interference or bad settings

[main wigeon]

omg my wifi went

out

wait

i was saying i have the xfinity dual band 802.11 ac

@jaunty cedar

[main wigeon]

is there any other way?

[jaunty cedar]

yes you can change your wifi card on pc to instrastructure mode and make a direct connection to headset

but this is quite involved and you may break your pc

[main wigeon]

wtf

break my pc??!!

[jaunty cedar]

it will disconnect you from your wifi network for sure - instead you would make a new wifi network from the pc

and only have pc and headset on it

[main wigeon]

should i check if i have a wifi page

[jaunty cedar]

that is not relevant

there wont be a wifi page because there wont be a wifi router

the pc will act as a router

[main wigeon]

😭

[jaunty cedar]

its likely you should get someone to help with your network

[main wigeon]

so is there anything i can do that does not involve getting a new wifi just for vr or using ethernet

[jaunty cedar]

nobody does this other stuff - because everyone uses an ethernet cable lol

ethernet cables cost basically nothing

[main wigeon]

can a wifi extender have a ethernet cable>

[jaunty cedar]

there is no such thing as a wifi extender

[main wigeon]

bru what

[jaunty cedar]

its just a wifi repeater that destroys performance and causes your problem

its just repeating all the signals

its more like a wifi interferer

[main wigeon]

so why do these big companys sell them

[jaunty cedar]

because its works for low performance stuff

most ppl do not care about high performance wifi speed

only vr uses 200mbit and is sensitive to this

streaming vr is the most demanding thing you can use your wifi for

[main wigeon]

ok so unplug my wifi "repeter"?

[jaunty cedar]

they are a crap way to extend a network

the correct way is with multiple routers and ethernet cables

but this is a mesh network - and you dont want to move between cells for vr

[main wigeon]

is my wifi good in general tho

[main wigeon]

.

[jaunty cedar]

if you keep getting disconnected then no its not

all you need is reliable 200mbit

so its completely useless to have a 1600mbit network but its not reliable coz you use boosters

[main wigeon]

so ima unplug my thing

and my wifi should be good?

like my wifi repterter

[jaunty cedar]

probably no because other ppl are also using it

if someone else starts watching youtube that might impact you

[main wigeon]

it used to work with everyone

[jaunty cedar]

with what performance?

[main wigeon]

idk

good

[jaunty cedar]

usually bad network just gives artifacting

[main wigeon]

max fps

[jaunty cedar]

if you are getting kicked off then something worse than that is wrong

boosters are definitely a big no

[main wigeon]

so i will start with unplugging that

im pretty sure i have the only one

i also restarted my wifi

ill go try and tell u

yep still does not work

[jaunty cedar]

discuss network problems with your network administrator

[main wigeon]

says it was aborted by host machine

[jaunty cedar]

and know that you should be using an ethernet cable

[main wigeon]

how long can they get?

[jaunty cedar]

100 meters

[main wigeon]

like 200 feet?

[jaunty cedar]

get your network admin to sort it out

you do not manage the network

you should not tamper with it

[main wigeon]

wait

[jaunty cedar]

whoever bought the gear and set it up

[main wigeon]

could i just unplug my wifi, move it to my room, then use ethernet?

[jaunty cedar]

of course

[main wigeon]

oh

[jaunty cedar]

this is literally what people do

[main wigeon]

thats simeple

simple

uuhh

but there is something weird in the wall

that the wifi thing uses

[jaunty cedar]

yes the router has a cable to outside world probably

[main wigeon]

its like a hole

do i need one in my room?

[jaunty cedar]

you can have multiple routers

[main wigeon]

but that cost more money

and

[jaunty cedar]

they are cheap

[main wigeon]

im confused

do i need the little hole in my room

[jaunty cedar]

i have a cheapo router for boring household stuff, and i use the high performance one for my pc only

you need to understand networking to set this up

so discuss with whoever setup the current network

[main wigeon]

.

if i just need a power thing i can do it rn

[jaunty cedar]

little hole means nothing, discuss with person that pays the internet bill

[main wigeon]

why

[jaunty cedar]

do you actually know how your internet is served?

[main wigeon]

no

what r the different ways

[jaunty cedar]

then discuss with the person that does

[main wigeon]

i dont think any one does

[jaunty cedar]

are you in student accomodation or something?

or a normal home? with bills?

[main wigeon]

the wifi was setup when we moved

[jaunty cedar]

if its student acommodation then its university network

[main wigeon]

is there a way to check?

[jaunty cedar]

wifi is not internet

[main wigeon]

wtfff

[jaunty cedar]

so you dont own this gear? and didnt set it up?

[main wigeon]

hold up

[jaunty cedar]

you just have the password and connect to wifi?

[main wigeon]

yes

i think

[jaunty cedar]

you have no control over this and cant change settings then?

[main wigeon]

maybe?

[jaunty cedar]

probably need to setup your own wifi for vr if you cant change this one

[main wigeon]

tbh im not sure

could i just move it to my room and use ethernet or could something go wrong?

This is what it looks like

2 things plugged into the wal

does it need those? @jaunty cedar

[jaunty cedar]

yes one of those is where your internet is coming in i would guess

[main wigeon]

damn it

ima look for one of those in my room

[jaunty cedar]

look for an ethernet socket more like

[main wigeon]

Any of these it?

Or that @jaunty cedar

[jaunty cedar]

maybe ethernet, maybe phone line, hard to tell

if thats ethernet then thats your magic fix

[main wigeon]

which picture?

2nd or first

[jaunty cedar]

second one

i cannot fix your network remotely - and i wont even try

get someone to sort it out for you

everyone is responsible for their own home network

[main wigeon]

how do i check and btw that white line conntects to the first picture

[jaunty cedar]

i dont know

[main wigeon]

oh

[jaunty cedar]

im not american i dont even recognise these power sockets

[main wigeon]

oh

[jaunty cedar]

but ethernet in america is same as ethernet everywhere

[main wigeon]

ok

[jaunty cedar]

follow the cables and see where they go

[main wigeon]

oh

[jaunty cedar]

if its ethernet they will all go to some common switch/router

[main wigeon]

so

i can tell u

lemme go draw something

[jaunty cedar]

i see thats a dual mode router as well - usually thats bad and u should disable the 2.4ghz

but if you do that all the old clients will get kicked off

[main wigeon]

oh

[main wigeon]

we have 2 speparate networks im pretty sure

[jaunty cedar]

yeah thats the way to go

one network for old clients, one for modern high performance stuff

and no mixing

[main wigeon]

i can check later tho

[jaunty cedar]

but still pc should use ethernet is the critical flaw

[main wigeon]

i am trying

in like 1 min i will have drawing

the things circled are the same wire

@jaunty cedar does that help?

[jaunty cedar]

no idea what that is

[main wigeon]

ah

[jaunty cedar]

get an engineer

on site

[main wigeon]

hmm

[jaunty cedar]

just look at your router and count the ethernet cables

[main wigeon]

i will talk to my parents about it but for now air link work?

[main wigeon]

what do they look like

[jaunty cedar]

air link is the same thing

if you had bad network it will affect all

there are many guides for this online

they will all tell you to use ethernet

[main wigeon]

all right that is my goal for now

[jaunty cedar]

when we say "wireless vr" this is the headset that is wireless

[main wigeon]

i will count the ethernet

well i will send pictue

I found this

@jaunty cedar

[jaunty cedar]

one ethernet - going to your other router probably

follow that

[main wigeon]

which cord

[jaunty cedar]

top one

bottom is power, middle of cable internet

or dsl

[main wigeon]

goes into the wall

[jaunty cedar]

and goes somewhere, to other router

[main wigeon]

really?

[main wigeon]

this thing?

goes to that

@jaunty cedar ur right air link does not work rn, whitch is weird because this has never happend but i will talk to my parents about getting me ethernet

btw sorry for wasting ur time

.closede

.close

[main wigeon]

@jaunty cedar how is power line adapter?

[jaunty cedar]

awful

[main wigeon]

What

Why

[jaunty cedar]

its not high performance or reliable

[main wigeon]

Is wireless Ethernet bridge better?

[jaunty cedar]

no - thats what you are using right now and causing your issue in the first place

[main wigeon]

But i dont have a Ethernet cable

[jaunty cedar]

that would be the wireless part

[main wigeon]

Chat gpt trippin?

[jaunty cedar]

this is just a second router

[main wigeon]

Oh

[jaunty cedar]

it does not avoid the double dipping at all

[main wigeon]

What would be better that or wireless

I mean or power line

[jaunty cedar]

use ethernet and stop messing around

[main wigeon]

I cant cuz the internet gets fed into that one room

So would powerline be better>

?

[jaunty cedar]

no high performance for you then

powerline would be worse probably

[main wigeon]

WTF

[jaunty cedar]

they are cheap and sold everywhere

and all yours devices have ports for it

and it will just work with no configuration probably

just remember to set the network connection as private in windows, not public

[main wigeon]

Wait huh?

And maybe that will fix?

How do i do it

I mean i have a Wi-Fi intent

@jaunty cedar

[jaunty cedar]

ethernet cable - im not going to tell you this again

read the wiki

[main wigeon]

Yes i understand that but i am not able

So

There were two thing

[main wigeon]

This

And something u said around a hour ago whitch was something with the router settings

[jaunty cedar]

if you set it to public it will firewall stuff

or not be detected automatically

[main wigeon]

Can i change it to private via my computer>

?

Oh

This?

[main wigeon]

how do i do this or is this just the private thing?

this is the last thing to do right?

[jaunty cedar]

this isnt your problem lol

getting ethernet cable is the only thing u should be doing

[main wigeon]

ok i understand but any little boost helps

so how do i do this

[main wigeon]

or is the private the only thing that is gonna help even just a little

[jaunty cedar]

this is just a firewall thing not a performance thing

[main wigeon]

oh

will client isolation help?

even a bit?

@jaunty cedar

[jaunty cedar]

no that is just about discoverability

only ethernet cable will help - and removal of interfering devices like boosters

[main wigeon]

ok so unplug my booster

[main wigeon]

and is this big thing a booster?

[jaunty cedar]

no thats an ethernet switch

with all the ethernet cables going into it

this is what you should be connecting your pc to

you could also connect it to router if it has ports, would be same

i would connect to whichever is closer and more convenient

[main wigeon]

i cant sadly

ima unplug my wifi extender tho

[jaunty cedar]

u should not be messing with network - only the person that set it up should touch it

[main wigeon]

well unplugging my wifi extender is fine because it wont mess with the actual thing

[jaunty cedar]

if you cant tell a wifi extender apart from ethernet switch this wont end well

[main wigeon]

look i can send a pig

pig

pic

[jaunty cedar]

dont

just dont touch anything - get someone else to fix

[jaunty cedar]

you will break the network and probably get in trouble

[main wigeon]

Wait it

WIAT

Do u see what i see

Omg

Is that a Ethernet cable in my room??

[jaunty cedar]

yes forbidden ethernet cable

[main wigeon]

could this work?

[jaunty cedar]

exactly why are you not using this?

[main wigeon]

idk lol

ahh this just got alot better

so

lemme get a stool then take a pic so u can get a better angle

[jaunty cedar]

try it out, make sure to turn your wifi off so its forced to use ethernet

[main wigeon]

cuz this thing is high up

i might need ur hlep one sec

[jaunty cedar]

if it doesnt work then make sure that orange cable is actually going somewhere - it should be going to ethernet switch

and yeah i see an orange cable in the other picture so fingers crossed maybe good

[main wigeon]

Well that’s confusing

The problem is that that orange one does not get anywhere close to my pc (it’s across my room)

@jaunty cedar

[jaunty cedar]

you need to extend that cable somehow

[main wigeon]

I would need to switch it for a longer one

[jaunty cedar]

put ethernet switch there is how

[main wigeon]

Huh?

[jaunty cedar]

thats not easy because its run thru the wall

put a switch there, and then run another cable to pc

[main wigeon]

do i need to buy switch?

[jaunty cedar]

yeah but they are dirt cheap

[main wigeon]

is it the big wite box i have?

[jaunty cedar]

get tiny cheapo 4 port switch

[main wigeon]

Does Best Buy have em?

[jaunty cedar]

yeah for less than $20

[main wigeon]

Bet and Ethernet cables?

Lemme friend u rq

Add me

Ur not excepting friends

Where r u?

@jaunty cedar

[jaunty cedar]

ofc not lol

[main wigeon]

Ur not gonna friend me?

[jaunty cedar]

nop

[main wigeon]

Aww

Why did u say ofc tho?

[jaunty cedar]

i am a lot older than you probably, i dont use social media

[main wigeon]

ok well besides that point tomorrow u think i go to best buy buy a switch and ethernet cable?

[main wigeon]

oh

[jaunty cedar]

sry to be rude

[main wigeon]

its fine

ur helping me alot

so does a switch extend the ethernet?

[jaunty cedar]

yes

[main wigeon]

does it go in one end and come out the next or how does it work?

[jaunty cedar]

yes very simple

just plug all ur cables into it

[main wigeon]

so just the ethernet?

[jaunty cedar]

just like the other switch in your house

[main wigeon]

or all of th em

[jaunty cedar]

there are only ethernet ports on it

[main wigeon]

there were 3

cables coming oiut of the wall

[jaunty cedar]

your internet router is special - it has an ethernet switch built in

its multiple devices combined into one

[main wigeon]

are they all ethernet

[jaunty cedar]

no some are for cable internet

thats a different function, just combined into same device

[main wigeon]

ok just the orangle one?

[jaunty cedar]

the cheap 20 bucks ethernet switch u buy will only have ethernet and not extra functions for internet router

[main wigeon]

ok but will buying a fancy one be better?

or will the cheap perform the same

@jaunty cedar ?

[jaunty cedar]

no for ethernet the cheapest possible one is fine

do not spend more than 20 bucks

[main wigeon]

alright perfect

but lemme send a pic of some i saw online

and they are called ethernet switch right not just switch?

[jaunty cedar]

correct

and you need at least 2 ethernet ports

one for that orange cable, other for cable going to pc

and you need that other cable

and enough length to reach from switch to pc

and switch need to be located in the wardrobe where orange cable appears, and needs power there

[main wigeon]

im getting some pics rq

but there is only ports on one side

so the cable to my pc would have to go up and over it

which would bend the ethernet cagble

and i could buy this @jaunty cedar is that all the right stuff?

[jaunty cedar]

all good but u can get cheaper

[main wigeon]

lemme draw u something

does that not strike you as inconviyent?>

[jaunty cedar]

it is inconvenient

all this hassle just coz that orange cable is not long enough

your house was not wired up very well

[main wigeon]

ok

[jaunty cedar]

the cable should be terminated with a port in the wall, allowing you to plug in

[main wigeon]

that seems better right?

[jaunty cedar]

not just have hte cable sticking out of the wall like that

[main wigeon]

is there a way to check?

[jaunty cedar]

what problem do you have now?

its impossible to get this wrong - just plug the cables in

you cannot do this wrong

[main wigeon]

well like if its just random cables i could waste 30 dollars

[jaunty cedar]

it doesnt matter which ports you use

any of htem work

[main wigeon]

u said that they could just be random cables sticking out of the wal

wall

[jaunty cedar]

anything is possible

i had problems with the cabling in my apartment

[main wigeon]

think i should just go for it?

[jaunty cedar]

ofc

[main wigeon]

like thats only arouidn 3 weeks of allowence

[jaunty cedar]

why are you even paying for it?

this is network gear for your house

[main wigeon]

idk cuz my parents say wifi is fine

[jaunty cedar]

and why are you buying 5 port switch when you only need 2

and huge long cable when you only need short one

your parents are not network engineers

[main wigeon]

well its also for vr which is not the most productive thing for me to be spending time on

[jaunty cedar]

u can buy this for less than 20 bucks

[main wigeon]

oh

[jaunty cedar]

by walking into a shop

[main wigeon]

yea im gonna ask my mom or dad to bring me to best buy

tomorrow

[jaunty cedar]

and all of this just because that orange cable does not reach down to the pc

[main wigeon]

ye

[jaunty cedar]

did u try pulling it out more? is there no slack?

[main wigeon]

its also just for me

[main wigeon]

oh i have not tried

but my room is liek 10 feet across

[jaunty cedar]

dont pull too hard

[main wigeon]

more like 20 feet

[main wigeon]

thats what i was thingking

like is it worth the risk?

[jaunty cedar]

just pull it gently thats fine

[main wigeon]

cuz i would not know how to conntect it back

[jaunty cedar]

if it doesnt have any slack it will be obvious

[main wigeon]

ok

i mean 20ft of slack is dout full

[jaunty cedar]

u should be moving your pc as close as u can get away with

[main wigeon]

my desk is on the other sdise

[jaunty cedar]

then u are forced to extend it somehow

[main wigeon]

and that thing is in the top of my wardrobe

[main wigeon]

with what we have been talking about for a grand total of like 20 - 30 dollars right?

[jaunty cedar]

yeah

or buy a longer cable and replace that orange one

but this is very difficult coz its in the wall

[main wigeon]

yea

[jaunty cedar]

ask parents if that is possible

[main wigeon]

and hiring person to do that is bad

[jaunty cedar]

depends on if there are maintenance ducts

[main wigeon]

i mean they dont know anything

their jobs have absolutly nothing to do with eletrical wiring

and stuff like this

[jaunty cedar]

ethernet cables in wardrobes does not strike me as professional network setup

expect to see rj45 ports in wall - this is what ethernet plugs into

[main wigeon]

its at the top

i can send a bigger pic

[jaunty cedar]

you showed enough

nn

[main wigeon]

See what i mean

[main wigeon]

Oops

should i unsend?

or does that give u a better sense of what im taling about? @jaunty cedar

oh wait but does that look like unprofessional wiring ? @jaunty cedar

is there a way to test if that ethernet cable works?

[jaunty cedar]

get someone to help u with basic network stuff

not someone remote