R18 (suspended)

[coarse sable]

Alright. Expand CNAMES, select one of them, doesn't matter which, use copyBytes on it, then use the paste script, it will ask which string you want to insert, so that was 'scattering' press OK and it will add that string

[steady glacier]

the e3 demo is real

[lofty thistle]

uh-huh

doen

[steady glacier]

e3 demo now complete

doen

gaem ova

[coarse sable]

What I did next, I expanded VolumetricAreaSettings, used copyBytes on absorption. This is where it might get tricky. In my case, I had to manually duplicate absorption, as it didn't do anything with the paste script, but before we get to that, we'll see how it works for you. Once you've got absorption copied, use the paste script, and it should duplicate it.

[steady glacier]

MorningSpice really is just John McAfee

[coarse sable]

If none of that works, just came up with a different idea, so I'll test that real quick in the meantime

[lofty thistle]

and then just change index?

[coarse sable]

Yeah, it'll update it

[lofty thistle]

ohhh but now wolvenkit won't read it :(

[coarse sable]

Let me try my other idea

[lofty thistle]

also @coarse sable the game can be stubborn, you can bruteforce it a few times and it'll learn

so sometimes you just have to launch the game 20 times and it'll work

also....

I will try doing something else

[steady glacier]

clearly this game is coded to perfection

[lofty thistle]

AND THERE WE GO

[steady glacier]

dear god

this mod can truly be

demo

[lofty thistle]

didn't look good bcuz i messed with some stuff

let me try again

[coarse sable]

My new idea works. I just outright replaced absorption with scattering, and it works.

Absorption shouldn't be necessary if scattering works, no?

[steady glacier]

😳😳😳

[lofty thistle]

It is

E3 has absorption AND scattering lol

[coarse sable]

Damn. Oh well, at least it didn't crash.

This is with scattering at 0.5

[lofty thistle]

OH MY GOODDDD

@steady glacier

he did it

[coarse sable]

WolvenKit works with absorption replaced, might be able to jury rig it back in that way

What's E3's absorption? Or what'd you have it set to before you went with 0?

[lofty thistle]

hmmm maybe

It's 0 anyways

I guess it doesn't matter lmao

absorption AND scattering at the same time? impossible

[lofty thistle]

just had to add item in the array in wolvenkit and it workie

[coarse sable]

Yep, got it to work the same way

[steady glacier]

this is the best moment of my life

[lofty thistle]

stick around morning you are very helpful thank you

[random owl]

Giggity 😏😆

[coarse sable]

This is with absorption back (set to 0.2, why not)

Everything appears to be working like this

[random owl]

😮😮

[lofty thistle]

can we just....

add 2018 variables????

like get rid of the game's default stuff and replace it with 2018

I'll experiment with it over the weekend :0

also do some stuff using weathers as containers

you see, 2018 used "containers"

where they imported envparams into the env, so they could revert to engine defaults at will

[random owl]

God damn you guys are sooo damn close. It's been fucking awesome watching this come together.

[coarse sable]

Don't know much about containers and such lol, but I've come across them, yeah. My only real experience is playing around with env's, mostly blindly. But I figured 010 could cram the value in, so I gave it a shot.

[steady glacier]

I FUCKING LOVE THE YEAR OF THE NEON GOD 2018 GOD BLESS THE CREATORS OF DEMO AND R18 AMEN

[lofty thistle]

scattering adds stuff

realy cool

[random owl]

🙏😭

😆

[coarse sable]

That with RT? Don't have that myself cries in GTX

Doesn't look broken or anything

[lofty thistle]

nope

[steady glacier]

https://tenor.com/view/we-got-him-ladies-and-gentlemen-em-gif-15781907

[coarse sable]

Should see how it works with RT

[lofty thistle]

it works great

[coarse sable]

Damn

Amazing

[steady glacier]

https://tenor.com/view/vaas-far-cry3-that-is-crazy-gif-26006603

[lofty thistle]

Vaaspilled

[random owl]

@lofty thistle what're you rocking gpu wise?

[lofty thistle]

RTX 3070

fog looks good now

[random owl]

10-4👍

[steady glacier]

we legit need to frame by frame compare the demo and R18 now that we have scattering, it'll literally look exactly the same once everything is tweaked

[lofty thistle]

look at this :)

[steady glacier]

HOLY FUCK

[coarse sable]

Holy crap

[steady glacier]

ITS LITERALLY THE DEMO

[lofty thistle]

thank you morningspice

[random owl]

Yup it definitely will. Freaking nuts how quickly y'all got this together and working.

[steady glacier]

this is crazy

[lofty thistle]

waiting for lexar to come back

[steady glacier]

I have lost every one of my marbles broskis

[coarse sable]

Welcome, but it really was just a stroke of luck on my part.

[random owl]

Master MorningSpice the scatter slayer🙏

😆

[steady glacier]

now all thats left is tweaking it all

to look exactly like demo

and then perfection

[steady glacier]

BROO

THATS ACTUALLY CRAZY

[random owl]

Fr

[steady glacier]

IT SHINES EXACTLY THE SAME AS DEMO

[lofty thistle]

and lexar, i have the sun position

[steady glacier]

[lofty thistle]

it's actually correct though

[steady glacier]

[coarse sable]

Scattering really was it, damn. We're lucky CDPR kept the value alive in some way.

[lofty thistle]

yup

5:20 is even better than 5:15

[steady glacier]

@lofty thistle @coarse sable I love you

[lofty thistle]

[steady glacier]

This is actually the best mod imo

for this game

and it's not even close to being out yet

[coarse sable]

You can love me, but gotta love Null and Lexar more

[lofty thistle]

SHTU UP

[steady glacier]

it's true

I am right once again

[steady glacier]

true, but you at least deserve a shoutout on the mod page

imo

it's up to them though

[lofty thistle]

NOPE

im not gonna be dravic

you are all gonna be creditd

dont worry

[steady glacier]

I do not deserve credits though I am just funny man who sits here making jokes and saying "hmmm"

[lofty thistle]

fr

[steady glacier]

[lofty thistle]

but wirdly enough, screenspace effects look way better with R18

with R19, RT looks so good

I plan to release this mod by halloween, btw

[sharp bone]

He deserves more then a shoutout honestly. He cracked the light source that no one has been able to truly replicate from the demo yet. Of course Null and Lexar have been so close but now this is just beyond accurate.

[steady glacier]

It's because RTX wasnt a thing

when demo was made

[lofty thistle]

yeah but still

you said visual upgrades from vanilla + 2018 = good

[steady glacier]

true

[lofty thistle]

but you're wrong with RT

[steady glacier]

Yeah nah I mean visual as in like

scene detail

and character models

lighting was better in 2018 for sure

[sharp bone]

Nexus will shit itself when you post this and see the lighting itself accurate one to one with e3 pics

[lofty thistle]

oh ok

[coarse sable]

A shoutout is fine. All I really did was click some buttons and bash my keyboard a bit 😅

[lofty thistle]

well morning, you are literally better than CDPR, literally

I tried asking them every way possible and never got back to me

[steady glacier]

yeah bro the goal should be to make the comp pics so indistinguishable that people think its an overlapped image

[lofty thistle]

HHAAHAHAH

yeah

[steady glacier]

would be funny as shit

[lofty thistle]

especially with night

lexar has night literally perfect

[sharp bone]

Yeah but you still cracked it. Even the simplest of things can be difficult and have a huge impact. You have become the key to this and I give you HUGE props

[coarse sable]

CDPR might not even remember scattering lol

[steady glacier]

true lmfao, I compared that shit earlier and it was indistinguishable aside from clouds and ui

[sharp bone]

Thats ledgit what I thought right now when I saw the pic by the diner. Then I was holy fuck wait there is no ui. That isnt a e3 clip

[lofty thistle]

I'll add this to github

[sharp bone]

Yes please. Im eager to play around

[steady glacier]

yeah dude sun pos and scattering were the missing links

[lofty thistle]

now every single scene looks fucking amazing

I'll do one more thing though

[coarse sable]

[sharp bone]

Ooooo its been 4 years bois but we got em

[steady glacier]

this is literally just the fucking demo

like actually

[sharp bone]

Morning is a god

https://tenor.com/view/i-am-not-worthy-not-worthy-respect-bow-gif-14777001

[steady glacier]

we need a demo and mod comparison rn outside of V's apartment

with scattering

[lofty thistle]

.

[steady glacier]

I meant video

like

retracing demo steps

[sharp bone]

Also we forgot the major props as well too @gray glacier for finding the settings

[lofty thistle]

https://github.com/nullfrctl/R18/releases/tag/pre-alpha.rc3

[steady glacier]

who needs rt when you have demo light scattering

[sharp bone]

https://tenor.com/view/dooku-star-wars-looking-foward-been-looking-forward-to-this-gif-18360410

[lofty thistle]

still not up-to-date to lexar branch

but he's not on :(

[steady glacier]

LEXAR

WAKE YO ASS UP G

WE JUST MADE DEMO VISUALS A REALITY AND THIS MF SLEEPIN

[civic light]

Credit: modder sanity control

[steady glacier]

true

I think I did stop a few heads from exploding

https://tenor.com/view/jetstream-sam-true-metal-gear-rising-gif-24875505

[sharp bone]

Holy fuck Im in love

[coarse sable]

Same, the scattering looks great

Gamechanger in my eyes

[steady glacier]

I don't think people realize how rare it is to have every single visual feature of an e3 showcase work in the base game

thats like never before seen type shit

[sharp bone]

I think we are offically at the point where we can say we are playing the game with how it would have looked with 2018 lighting. And not just up to interpretation.

[steady glacier]

well yeah because it's literally using all the demo shit

so it is absolutely the most accurate

only thing left is tweaking

[lofty thistle]

stay tuned for R18.C, a little fork while lexar is away :)

[lofty thistle]

R18.Container, which uses the 2018 method (envparam containers)

[steady glacier]

why the fuck wasnt lighting just kept like this

CDPR seething rn

https://tenor.com/view/cereal-throw-angry-guy-out-of-milk-gif-14265412

[chrome ore]

fug that looks good

[sharp bone]

Honestly its better then the rtx lighting

[coarse sable]

they wanted us to do it ourselves, for a sense of pride and accomplishment

[gray glacier]

How are things lookin' people?

[sharp bone]

and even stuff like extra shadows

[chrome ore]

Wait, wasn't the initial demo this was based on like......just a mockup? None of it was in game.

[lofty thistle]

no

all in-engine and ingame

fake news are a real drug

[chrome ore]

[lofty thistle]

ain't it

i trace that rumor back to some angry people accusing CDPR lmao

[sharp bone]

It was in engine. Just a pre made area for the demo. But in engine which is why we are actually using those settings now

[gray glacier]

Mod's Improvising when I showed you guys the pics huh?

🙂

[sharp bone]

Lighting is even helping the roads I was critical of to look better as well

Yup we are using the actual e3 scattering lighting you found earleir

[gray glacier]

Heh heh heh! That oughta worked like the charm! I am so proud of myself

[lofty thistle]

Well, we didn't use your implementation

just inserted the variable in for ourselves

[gray glacier]

Ik

I helped you guys find the file

[sharp bone]

You should be proud. Everyone should be. This complete product will blow peoples mind. Cause it is the actual demo

[steady glacier]

only thing not possible was scattering until @coarse sable found out the solution by random chance like a fucking legend

[sharp bone]

Amen

[gray glacier]

En el nombre del Padre, El hijo, Y del espirito santo

Amen

[steady glacier]

^

[lofty thistle]

be 010 wizard
see guys struggling
help
refuses to elaborate

https://tenor.com/view/mujikcboro-seriymujik-gif-24361533

[steady glacier]

fixes unfixable cdpr issue in 5 seconds
refuses to elaborate
leaves

[sharp bone]

Only one issue I found was some Translucent bug on characters. But not a big deal probably some character lighting settings can now be disabled to fix it.

[lofty thistle]

probably rim lighting

fuck rim lighting

all my homies hate rim lighting

[gray glacier]

Yeah, people be like: Fix CP2077
Us: Fine, We'll do it ourselves

[steady glacier]

they only cut all the shit from the demo so modders could up their rep and donation points

smart way to give back to the community

ty cdpr

[lofty thistle]

@acoustic sandal

[dreamy arrow]

im just here watching

[lofty thistle]

yes spicy keep doing it

come back lexar, we need you

add scattering to your env blsssss

[steady glacier]

even Spicy lurkin rn

[gray glacier]

Yeah Lexar!

[steady glacier]

serious E3 energy

[lofty thistle]

still have to correct mid-day look tho

let's just make the sun yellow all day

[steady glacier]

yeah this is the part that'll require lots of small tweaks and reverts and shit

to get it close

[sharp bone]

yup was throwing that around earlier locking time of day until 8pm

I dont know how much progress Lexar made on that

[random owl]

Holy fuck I wanna cry this looks absolutely amazing on my TV RN

[sharp bone]

I know

[coarse sable]

I left to gawk at the scattering, kind of want to try adding it to the normal env and see how it looks

It's no E3 but damn they should've kept that at least

[sharp bone]

cant even describe just how all around better the lighting is. No out of place shadows or random dark areas or anything like that so far. It actually seems more accurate

[steady glacier]

WHY THE FUCK DID THEY CHANGE LIGHTING URHGHRHHRGEHRHHRHRGRHRH

[random owl]

@sharp bone for real. I'm walking around now just drooling.

Jackie's screaming at me "what gotta take a piss" because I left him at the noodle stand😆

[sharp bone]

haha same

Nope just are you seeing this fucking lighting Jackie. You can wait lol

[steady glacier]

JACKIE, YOURE PALE.. LIKE A CORPS- oh wait, thats just the restoration of scattering on your face

[random owl]

It just looks so dirty and polluted now. It's fucking glorious.

@steady glacier 😆🤣🤣

For real 🤣🤣 fucker can sit and eat his noodles

[acoustic sandal]

Calm down people, I don't like to release anything by half! I want something perfect...
I emailed Marcin, got the answer to ask someone from CDPR and guess what? Read and unanswered message about the fucking sun

[lofty thistle]

what did i do

jk

this is how the game looks without an env

using all engine defaults

has its moments though

this looks genuinely beautiful

just goes to show, no matter how much you try to make this game look bad, it will beat you

hell, even lighting looks better than vanilla sometimes

[lofty thistle]

OHHHH!@!!

?

time to set up a container

[steady glacier]

it'd be funny as shit if this mod actually gets recognized by CDPR

[lofty thistle]

it probably will

we'll be surfing nexus' #1 for a month straight, mark my words

[acoustic sandal]

Look at this file and see if you're lucky with it
base\gameplay\game_time.curveset

[sharp bone]

I feel the same way

[steady glacier]

Yes, I fucking love that you guys are aiming for perfection

[gray glacier]

It sure as hell it will be funny asf if this gets recognized by CDPR.

[sharp bone]

That made me spit out MY noodles. Lmao

[lofty thistle]

I've looked at this before

[random owl]

I just wanna walk around rn and look. I've dreamed of this since I saw that damn demo back in 2018. Fuck

[lofty thistle]

do it at 5pm

you can download it rn

[gray glacier]

And when the mod is ready, It's your lucky day

Also

[lofty thistle]

well

since scattering worked by just bruteforcing it

my hypothesis now is to simply bruteforce every variable in 2018 envparam

in R18.C

[gray glacier]

What if I told you that with both Base game and E3 AI you can customize it

Using wolvenkit

[lofty thistle]

wdym

[steady glacier]

so this will literally just be the demo if we can bruteforce it, with almost no tweaking needed, right?

[lofty thistle]

that's what i tihnk

[steady glacier]

https://tenor.com/view/my-nigga-denzel-washington-training-day-gif-4480094

[lofty thistle]

im a brainlet though so don't take my words at first sight

[coarse sable]

What other variables are there in the 2018 stuff?

[sharp bone]

Hope its that simple. But I know it will get there since we are already here.

[lofty thistle]

im almost thinking of just copying an E3 file i have into the container

[gray glacier]

All you gotta do is locate the AI files somewhere at Base/Gameplay/AI

And found this

In that case

Maybe

But MAYBE

We can restore the AI we were advertised

[lofty thistle]

@acoustic sandal so marcin is the one who worked on envs?

[steady glacier]

lmfao this mod is about to change into a whole ass aio game overhaul

with the retextures, ai, etc

[gray glacier]

Yeah

Merry Early Christmas yall

This mod is gonna become number one in nexus

Also modify the chicken-like AI from the NPCs

That would ofc make this mod into a whole ass AIO game overhaul

[sharp bone]

Yeah current lighting cant touch this.

e3 for the win and its from 4 years ago.

[acoustic sandal]

I just want to keep it like this all the time during the day

[sharp bone]

yup

[random owl]

@acoustic sandal facts

[lofty thistle]

omg

give me!!!!

doesn't matter if it is unfinished

https://tenor.com/view/i-need-it-spongebob-spongebob-squarepants-gif-4883506

[steady glacier]

I love you guys

keep shooting for perfection

[lofty thistle]

this IS E3

[steady glacier]

you'll do it

[lofty thistle]

there IS NO DIFFERENCE

[gray glacier]

Aww thanks @steady glacier

Making the mother of all omelettes here Jack.

Us

We are bringing back the E3 we wanted

And we're gonna enjoy shitting on CDPR for what they did to us

[stone timber]

i can just install with vortex right?

[lofty thistle]

it's redmod

so just use manual

and deploy with wolven

[gray glacier]

Also

[stone timber]

should u do that with all red mod games

mods

[gray glacier]

I'm gonna need assistance with editing the AI tho

[coarse sable]

Whoa, I don't really want to shit on CDPR. After all, they left in scattering.

[gray glacier]

Ik just saying

That we are gonna do what CDPR is too lazy to do

[coarse sable]

Well, no, I don't think laziness plays a part. Not really.

[steady glacier]

still, it'd be worth trying to brute force the 2018 shit

just cause

[gray glacier]

Oh okay.

Damn straight

[coarse sable]

CDPR did improve the AI over patches, and they'll be putting in a police system and reworking melee and cyberware. Plus they're working on the expansion. It ain't laziness.

[gray glacier]

Okay... sorry mate.

Well at least we're doing god's work

Thanks to me that I helped you guys locate the E3 files

Plus the AI folder

This mod is gonna be my favorite

Of all time

So yeah no shit. I found the AI folder from Base/Gameplay folders

And we could use it to edit the AI from headless chickens to best AI to make the most believable city like advertised

Maybe

Cuz I'll be showin' ya the pics

Right now I am resting my eyes from long days work tryna help yall find the E3 files and folders

E3 energy's kickin in

[lofty thistle]

R18.C first test imminent

GAME LOADS!!!

[random owl]

D'oh!!🤦🏼‍♂️

[coarse sable]

Said you had to brute force it, right?

[gray glacier]

Ahh shit!

[coarse sable]

Gotta launch it some more

[lofty thistle]

true, true

thing is when i said that the game crashed on boot

not on load

but

you're right

game is stubborn

last time it was five iirc

[coarse sable]

Well, I'm only right sometimes

[lofty thistle]

i'll try one more time

if not im just abandoning R18.C

I spent 3 hours getting variables to work

well shit

no work

[sharp bone]

damn

[coarse sable]

Maybe... one more time?

[lofty thistle]

nope

scattering works so perfectly

also please lexar, we need to merge our branches!!!!

[sharp bone]

What was the time you took the screenshots at earlier Null?. I cant replicate the sun position

[lofty thistle]

5:15pm

[sharp bone]

ok

[lofty thistle]

diner is at like 4:10

[sharp bone]

ahh cool ok want to see about a vid. If I can record it good

[lofty thistle]

yeah i kinda just need lexar to give me his branch so i can upload to github

and add scattering to it

[sharp bone]

nice

[inner tendon]

sheesh guys you did it

I cannot believe it!!!

It's worth stalking this channel every day, all day

Did l3x4r merge with you now @lofty thistle ?

[lofty thistle]

no

[inner tendon]

[lofty thistle]

my same thoughts

[inner tendon]

Can you give me your estimate about the current progress?

[lofty thistle]

[inner tendon]

You said 50% when you started

[lofty thistle]

80%

[inner tendon]

Null, tb I just care less about the precentage. I just wanted your opinion. Only thing that matters that you guys love doing it. And you need to keep the spirit, because that kept us together before launch and that will keep us together now too. It's a miracle that everything is just on track and there are few obsticles. But of course, pros have an easier way

[lofty thistle]

my opinion: lexar is being perfectionist

[inner tendon]

You're making history. And thank you for being part of it!

[inner tendon]

really?

[lofty thistle]

yeah

he's showed such good screenshots

but

every time i ask him to let me add to github

he just never answers :(

[inner tendon]

hmm

interesting

maybe he's just not great as a team member. Maybe he uses a solo build

[lofty thistle]

no, he's using R18, just wants it to be perfect

fine, but, at least add to github while you're developing

[sharp bone]

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1oqj9tv6T8jtCkWn_BURRp1w1ZG_U9R32/view?usp=sharing

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1gCn8fc7Gyezl-4Ucen226TULtW0YS9bs/view?usp=sharing

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1bOc6GP60kRJpGZ9zfo7oWxeJzmrnTxJu/view?usp=sharing

Renamed the Archive's to keep better track of in mod folder and made the R18 experience one with Null's latest build and some extra E3 goodies in there.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1dgDTmAS5HnBkfZSKWwuhD5tnGCv50EX2/view?usp=sharing

Also this is a hidden Discord exclusive gem from this server. Replaces the Unity with the Lexington in all scenes and at the start of the Sandra mission.

Figured you all would enjoy these

[inner tendon]

what's this?

[sharp bone]

Its Nulls R18 mod. The latest build posted here and I bundled it with some more stuff. E3 demo screen and text and intro.

[edgy mirage]

This is the most mod ever

Just beautiful to see

[acoustic sandal]

Maybe my release today… Maybe!!

[civic light]

Isn’t this like the biggest Cyberpunk graphics mod ever at this point?

[acoustic sandal]

https://tenor.com/view/cyberpunk2077-sad-cd-project-gif-19988917

Vanilla is best!! Signed: Marcin Iwiński

Now seriously, I discovered something amazing for the mod...
you will see soon

[acoustic sandal]

Does anyone know how we can remove some of the shine from cars? I don't know if this has to do with the normal map or the material

Final adjustments are being made!

Now night, day and everything else will be like the demo

[undone grove]

amazing progress

[acoustic sandal]

One thing that bothers me is the extreme glare on the cars! I don't use ray tracing anymore because of this...

[undone grove]

Maybe you should try experimenting with the RimEnhancement params?

.ini stuff

default

changed

[acoustic sandal]

Interesting...
Is there something that works without ray tracing too? With Ray Tracing it's terrible and without it, it's still bad

[undone grove]

Those params are duplicated for RT and non-RT

[acoustic sandal]

Which mod to use for this? I forgot because yesterday I had to download Cyberpunk again from Steam

[undone grove]

https://www.nexusmods.com/cyberpunk2077/mods/1502

[acoustic sandal]

Thx

[undone grove]

these params are in the "Editor" section

[sterile grail]

looking pretty good so far

[lofty thistle]

I kinda love REDmod

I can have like 15 weather mods developing at once and just switch them out at will

[pine summit]

Appreciate all you guys for the things you are doing, I have been watching silently because I am like 'monke man'

https://tenor.com/view/huh-geicos-caveman-3doors-down-let-me-be-myself-song-wait-what-gif-20064762

[lofty thistle]

https://tenor.com/view/epic-embed-fail-ryan-gosling-cereal-embed-failure-laugh-at-this-user-gif-20627924

[pine summit]

👀😆

[gray glacier]

How are things lookin' people?

[twin saffron]

Question : It's possible to have a link for just the UI of 2018 like it's display in your demo ? IT'S BEAUTIFUL !

[coarse sable]

https://www.nexusmods.com/cyberpunk2077/mods/3023

That'd be this mod here

[gray glacier]

Also E3 Compass works great with that mod ^

And E3 Nameplates

[twin saffron]

It's magnificent ! Thanks a lot ^^

[random owl]

©https://discord.com/channels/705931815109656596/1022676533816606830 🤫

[lofty thistle]

hmm????

what is that

says i dont have access

[coarse sable]

It's a link to the other modding server, to a mod restoring the E3 appearance of Dex's bodyguard

[random owl]

Just a little add on for that E3 feel👌

Oleg without all that face stuff like in the E3 trailer

@lofty thistle https://discord.gg/2077

It's in the discord exclusives tab

[sick sable]

To add on to RESTORE 2018 and other e3 2018 mods, I’m trying to learn how to mod and recreate the scanner back in the 2018 demo

To give the game the absolute 2018 feeling

[random owl]

That'd be so sweet omg

[sick sable]

But as of rn I have no clue how to do it

But I’ll try

[lofty thistle]

spicy does hud

i’ll try to get red stuff

[royal ingot]

@lofty thistle i requested someone to do the 2018 scanner, spicy took it and said he wont do it

probably was being sarcastic but idk

then i decided to try and do it myself instead

[undone grove]

he wasnt

[sick sable]

Yeah

[random owl]

Sittin here going over the E3 trailer and noticed no one has done anything for replacing Viktors glasses🤔 hmmm

[sick sable]

Maybe it’s from the lighting?

[acoustic sandal]

Last time he got a lot of information from the Militech training room
Not is env...

[random owl]

🤞 they actually get back to you

[random owl]

Could be. You never know 🤔

Who made the "work in progress - does not represent the final look of the game"mod in some your screenies L3X4R? Is it available for download? I kinda remember seeing it the discord exclusives tab like over a year ago maybe? Or I also could be tripping😏😆

[acoustic sandal]

This is no longer available

[sharp bone]

there is a red scanner mod as an optional file in Spicy's clean hack screen mod. Have been using it for a while

[sick sable]

Yeah that’s the one

[sharp bone]

Its not completely like the e3 one as it doesnt have the green outline and the info text the same but the color is there

Oh its actual different color outlines for different things. Never noticed that

[sharp bone]

You can also use it along with the Huditor mod. To move around the Ui and organize it however you want

[sharp bone]

Uffa. Means alot of people will look at this mod when it comes out

Also its moving up the nexus popular list as well

[acoustic sandal]

I figured out how we can fix up the scene for Sandra's first mission...
I just need the correct file streamingsector

[lofty thistle]

hmm

yes exactly

streaming sector doesn't have much to do with it i think

look at the .quest files

[acoustic sandal]

It doesn't make much sense to look at the quest, as these files have similar values to an env
Look at the Militech training room

[undone grove]

What exactly is the problem? I can help you find the right .streamingsector

[acoustic sandal]

For some reason CDPR left that place very dark!

[lofty thistle]

I think it uses fixed exposure parameters

[acoustic sandal]

Final adjustments...
Original CDRP values

[steady glacier]

Well, you guys gotta merge branches and stuff first

[acoustic sandal]

Maybe!!!!!

I hadn't thought of that!

I remember that in the first versions of the game, everything was very clear there, now it's extremely dark, there's not much to do, because if you change it there, you'll ruin the rest of the game

[acoustic sandal]

Before releasing on Nexus and making a trailer, I will release it here

[steady glacier]

cool

[lofty thistle]

umm lexar remember we're collabing

i gotta have a say in at least somethin g lol

[steady glacier]

it's almost like 2 different projects rn lmao

[lofty thistle]

yup

and for some reason lexar won't let me contribute to his version

@acoustic sandal, have you added scattering to your env?

[acoustic sandal]

EVERYONE here will get the credits, especially you Null, because you inspired me and told me which file to use

[lofty thistle]

if you give it to me i'll send it back with scattering ;)

[acoustic sandal]

Okay, this quest takes place overnight in the demo, so we have the same look.

[steady glacier]

well, your version is great, but nulls has added a lot of shit from demo

like scattering

that you'll need to adjust for

[acoustic sandal]

What does this do exactly, because I have original values now, all of them

[steady glacier]

it's the light scattering from the 2018 demo

before the game had rtx

[lofty thistle]

good stuff

makes it look like this without any of your tweaks!

I found it looking in an old version of 010 template

for some reason it had it while new ones don't show it

[acoustic sandal]

I just need to make small adjustments, because it's 99% finished, so I can send it to you and you can apply those values

Just a minute!

[lofty thistle]

Yup

[sharp bone]

@acoustic sandal It does effect global. Just have to clear up the noise. I think its volumetric issues

[sharp bone]

Yeah umm too much values lol

[undone grove]

Strange... I found streamingsectors for Sandra's quest interior. Meshes, decals, collisions and so on, but nothing related to the lighting(like envprobe or something like that)

@viral dew Can you help maybe?

[viral dew]

Interior lighting is baked

You can't change that

The rescue mission has windows that let light in using light channeling that's why you see it changing when you change the env otherwise it's baked

Now to what I mean by baked

I mean that nothing controls the baked lighting it's all pre baked when you hit build in the engine

Every update the game lighting gets rebaked

This means every update the lighting mod might look off and there is nothing you can do about it

Cdpr didn't do the lighting for cp77 they hired a studio that did it for them the 2018 demo lighting is their own in studio lighting

[lofty thistle]

huh, so it's impossible to get 2018 sun pos?

[viral dew]

If it's not strictly baked then yes

If it's strictly baked like the prebaked gi then probably no

[lofty thistle]

well

we're trying to change the env they use for the sandra mission

[viral dew]

I don't do lighting mods anymore so don't ask my anything I don't remember anymore xd

[viral dew]

Oh the rescue mission

[lofty thistle]

yup

[viral dew]

That's most likely baked and doesn't have a env

[steady glacier]

They should have just stuck in house tbh.

[lofty thistle]

it does, though

[viral dew]

Nah it was bugged asf

[lofty thistle]

you're a quest guy

bls hlep

[viral dew]

I didn't take a look at the rescue apartment so I have no idea if it uses a separate env or if it's a pre baked gi box with light channels

[steady glacier]

that could've been fixed though

[viral dew]

No time for that more important things first my guy

[steady glacier]

lighting is pretty fucking important lmfao

[viral dew]

Hiring a studio who is specialized in doing lighting for video games is the better option when you have no time to spend on fixing lighting bugs

[steady glacier]

I guess but the base game lighting looks pretty poor, obviously that's subjective, but still

[viral dew]

Yeah that's pretty objective

People do like unfinished stuff ngl

Can't say much

[steady glacier]

I don't even mean in terms of technology I just mean from a pure visual standpoint

which is subjective

[viral dew]

Also 2018 demo night city was pretty different

We have 3 versions of nc

1 for the one we have currently

And for the 2019 demo

2018 demo NC which is 1.2 or 1.1 if I'm not wrong

[steady glacier]

2018 one wasnt even a city

it was legit just the playable area of the demo

[viral dew]

Then NC 1.0 which is the oldest one

We are on night city 1.3

Can see a sign saying that in the badlands and the nomad starting intro

[sharp bone]

Think Im getting somewhere

[sharp bone]

Yeah I noticed that

[steady glacier]

1.4 when

[viral dew]

The expansion maybe

[steady glacier]

maybe

or 2088

[lofty thistle]

kratoes can you give us 1.1/1.2

[viral dew]

That sadly doesn't exist with in the game files

[steady glacier]

kratos plox remake the entirety of NC to look like 2018 demo

[lofty thistle]

pretty please?

[viral dew]

It's somewhere in cdprs own versioning system

Should bully fuzzo for it

[lofty thistle]

why can't fuzzo just leak the entire source code again and all versions in the system smh my head

[viral dew]

I dunno you should ask him

[steady glacier]

on jah

[viral dew]

This looks pretty good

[lofty thistle]

yup

it's pretty close

and i think it's the closest we can get

[viral dew]

Warm colors

[undone grove]

Those are still volumetric clouds, right?

[sharp bone]

Yeah

I toned down volumetric a bit to get rid of the noise. But trying to figure out the size without filling the whole sky like a storm 24/7

[viral dew]

Also just a tip

Take a look at the source code that came with redmod

Might find something useful regarding the sun in there

[sharp bone]

hmm Null and Lexar thats a job for you lol

[sick sable]

Off topic but I found that the weapon wheel was different and looked this ⬇️

[sharp bone]

oh wow. Where did u find that?

[sick sable]

The 2018 demo vid

[sharp bone]

ohh I never noticed that

[steady glacier]

that looks so much better than final lmao

[sick sable]

It’s very fast

It’s easy to miss

[lofty thistle]

Kind of putting R18 on hold for now. Working on V³ now, a lite colorgrading mod which enhances vanilla graphics

[steady glacier]

lmfao

[lofty thistle]

We're basically done

Lexar has done everything he can

same as me

[steady glacier]

oh I thought that was a joke

[sharp bone]

Did lexar send his stuff to you?

[lofty thistle]

Yup, and it's really full

[sharp bone]

ohh updated build?

[lofty thistle]

I think he even got a fully filled out env from CD Projekt

[steady glacier]

yeah once scattering is added to his

it'll be done

[lofty thistle]

Already has :)

[steady glacier]

[sharp bone]

nice Ill check

[lofty thistle]

Hasn't been added to github, need to refactor stuff first

[sharp bone]

Ahh ok

[sick sable]

That’s the time stamp

It’s there for like a second

[sharp bone]

Ill finish up trying to make the clouds rounder and then Ive done about what I can as well. Roads look more then good with the current lighting

[viral dew]

Sounds like more pain for spicy

[lofty thistle]

I restored 2020 lut to vanilla, and used HDR even for SDR, looks amazing compared to vanilla

[coarse sable]

E3 2018's sky used 2D clouds iirc, different mesh entirely

[sharp bone]

That was exactly my first thought. He will just Love more stuff added to his list lol

[lofty thistle]

Yup, skater is trying to get volumetric clouds to look like it though, which is a great endeavour.

[sick sable]

https://youtu.be/OL_W2yIAZ30

[steady glacier]

damn so it literally just is demo lighting

[coarse sable]

Definitely getting there, gotta flatten those clouds 😅

[sick sable]

I also found this

[lofty thistle]

I THINK!

[sharp bone]

Oh nice I was messing with that the other day also. It really isnt bad looking

[steady glacier]

damn

[lofty thistle]

still as @viral dew said, it might not look the same as demo due to lighting being changed

[sharp bone]

And yeah noticed that back in the day. They justy took it out for Jackie but its in the Psycho mission

[lofty thistle]

and also Lexar thinks it's a different engine version (which it is) and it was scripted (which it was) so we can't conceivably get it to look exact.

[sick sable]

Would be cool if it could somehow be added in to the mission

[coarse sable]

Doesn't max RT disable baked lighting? I might just be remembering wrong. If it doesn't, maybe Nvidia's new mode will do it.

[viral dew]

Nah its still red engine 4 just in development

[lofty thistle]

I mean different capabilities

no RT at that time

[viral dew]

They work on the engine before they start making things

Like engine version is 1.8 and game version is 1.6

When cp77 released engine version was 1.3

So the 2018 is pre 1.0

[lofty thistle]

exactly what im saying

[viral dew]

And you know

The expansion teaser looks better than what we have currently

And that was in game footage

[lofty thistle]

yupppp

lights aren't puke colored

[undone grove]

It could be captured with RT override mode

who knows

[viral dew]

They have various lighting effects that we don't have currently

[lofty thistle]

YEAH

[steady glacier]

RL

restore liberty demo trailer

[viral dew]

So expect the lighting to be changed with the expansion

[steady glacier]

doubt it

might just be lighting for that specific expansion area

[coarse sable]

I doubt your doubt

[sharp bone]

Isnt RT override the same effects but just more efficent? Idk their showcase confused me lol

[steady glacier]

[viral dew]

Lighting already got changed in 1.6

Dunno if you notice it

[steady glacier]

didn't notice

still looks bad

[sharp bone]

Hmm wonder if thats why the issues with Gpu usage and fps

[lofty thistle]

fr

[coarse sable]

What did they change? Been awhile since I played 1.5, so I wouldn't be able to tell.

It didn't look any different.

[steady glacier]

^

even the liberty trailer only looks slightly sifferent, and a lot of it could just be post fx or area specific

[coarse sable]

They should put scattering back

Nah I thought PL looked more than just slightly different

[lofty thistle]

scattering and absorption work so well together even though they do the same thing

[steady glacier]

well first time I watched it, it looked the same as 1.6

but maybe it'll be different

[lofty thistle]

only difference i saw was that lights weren't puke colored anymore

and white

[viral dew]

Dunno looks good to me

[coarse sable]

Idk, it looks better than the current lighting

I don't think that sky is in the current game

[lofty thistle]

no it isn't, clouds also look different

[steady glacier]

at least it got rid of green filter

[lofty thistle]

it's very light modification though

[sharp bone]

Oh before you call it for a while on r18 null

Idk if you saw these but exposure issue with the no tell motel

When walking in and out

Only place ive seen so far that does it

[steady glacier]

yeah fr, but as I said, no green filter looks good

turns out making your game vomit green looks like shit

the more you know

[sharp bone]

https://tenor.com/view/the-more-you-know-gif-19118236

[lofty thistle]

V³ is subtle, but you can see the difference

[pale bison]

2019 mod was abandoned?

[steady glacier]

V9

[coarse sable]

gib V³

[steady glacier]

No

[viral dew]

https://tenor.com/view/theyre-the-same-picture-the-office-pam-the-office-us-gif-20757621

[lofty thistle]

i mean it's supposed to keep the vanilla feel

maybe calibrate your monitor because on mine it looks wayyy different

[steady glacier]

it looks like one has a sharpening reshade

[coarse sable]

Vanilla+ in Cyberpunk??

[viral dew]

Or maybe you are just smoking the cheap shit

[lofty thistle]

Yup, Vanilla+ lighting mod

impossibleu

btw, night is wayyy different

no more puke filter

[random owl]

😆😆

[steady glacier]

what if liberty actually does change vanilla lighting

then it'll make v3

useless

sorta

[viral dew]

It will make most lighting mods look off

[steady glacier]

r18 broke on launch week

real

[lofty thistle]

[steady glacier]

[viral dew]

Sounds like a skill issue to me

[steady glacier]

rfuzzo leak every build and asset of game!

[random owl]

I'd so love to get ahold of that too. Just to have it.😆

[viral dew]

I'm not sure if you would like 400 gb of data

[lofty thistle]

why not

[steady glacier]

I already have Modern Warfare installed, may aswell

[random owl]

I've got plenty of hard drive space so yes I would 👌😎

[viral dew]

Also the engine doesn't run on hdds

Game won't even build on a hdd

[random owl]

I've 2 2Tb m.2s so I'm ok there.

Plus another 1tb,500gb ssd like I said plenty of storage

[coarse sable]

Yes CDPR, this man right here

[viral dew]

Weird flex but okay

[steady glacier]

send UE5 Cyberpunk 2088 files rfuzzo

[sharp bone]

oh god not that again lol

[random owl]

No flex. Just saying I got plenty of storage

[viral dew]

Also don't ping again I'm always asleep

[random owl]

👍

[steady glacier]

sorry bro but clearly le Cyberpunk 2088 is almost finished

[sharp bone]

lol

[lofty thistle]

game will build on HDD. don’t ask how i know

[steady glacier]

20 tb hdd cyberpunk time

[lofty thistle]

V³ (first) vs Vanilla (second)

[steady glacier]

vanilla looks better imo

[lofty thistle]

look at the top though

the building in V³ looks actually lit normally

[steady glacier]

Yeah you got rid of that weird filter thingy

and the lights look normal

[lofty thistle]

so vanilla still looks better?

[steady glacier]

it has more depth yeah

v3 looks too washed out

[coarse sable]

I prefer the more "washed out" look, vanilla looks too vibrant to me

[lofty thistle]

EXACTLY

and also V3 just has better colorgrading entirely

[steady glacier]

could just be this particular scene idk

[coarse sable]

Eh, it looks how I think it ought to. Vanilla has a whole vibrant, harsh look to it, which would be fine, but it's overdone. Null's oranges and yellows are also an improvement.

[lofty thistle]

this guy gets it

[sharp bone]

Nah V3 looks better

[steady glacier]

it's all subjective

even if I don't like how it looks, null will prob make it look as good as he can

[sharp bone]

yup

[acoustic sandal]

Release will be delayed, still discovering cool stuff

[broken harbor]

looks great man

[gray glacier]

Want more E3 Files or you guys good?

[acoustic sandal]

If they can be used, they are welcome.

[sharp bone]

This about the best I can do for the clouds

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1x15P7UyPFKchYChmoD7D01xTg_XWAjlI/view?usp=sharing

[timid hemlock]

Do you mind sharing your HUD? looks like e3 hud with e3 compass + map and the red centered mph/kph

[sharp bone]

@timid hemlock Its not a mod I did though. Its a combination of Spicy's E3 Hud and Compass and Huditor to move them around however you want. I just made it look like both 2018's and 2019's Hud.

All of them are on Nexus

[timid hemlock]

aight, looks pretty nice. what about the red mph/kph tho? mine seem to be stuck blue with e3hud etc

[sharp bone]

Are you using e3 2018 hud colors?

[timid hemlock]

yup. latest

[sharp bone]

Thats why. Just use the stock colors that already come with Spicys's mod and not the extra hud color mod

And then mostly everything will be red

[timid hemlock]

oh I meant the latest e3 spicyhud. no idea about any extra colors. ffs maybe im just bugged lol. the reticle wont appear either

[sharp bone]

Oh ok hmm it should just be red as it comes. The only time it changed to blue for me was when I tried the Hud colors which is a seperate mod

Some icon mods can also change of colors of things

So just go through and see if anything looks like it could alter it and try getting rid of it.

[timid hemlock]

👍 aight, ty for the answer

[sharp bone]

No prob. Hope you figure it out

[steady glacier]

@acoustic sandal pls upload your build on github

i beg

[random owl]

https://tenor.com/view/hungry-please-sir-may-i-have-some-more-oliver-mark-lester-poor-gif-7821643

[steady glacier]

https://tenor.com/view/the-movie-room-hes-true-mouthfuls-mouthfuls69-youtooz-gif-19825918

[random owl]

🤣🤣🤣🤣

[steady glacier]

holy shit just tried light scattering for the first time on my own

goes so hard

way better than RTX

wtf

[random owl]

I'd love to be able to recover like 20fps if I can.😆 It'd be cool if there were like 2 different version. One for RTX and for just regular rasterization.

[steady glacier]

eh RTX isn't need for the mod at all with scattering enabled

needed*

it actually looks better with RTX off

may leave reflections on though

[random owl]

No way in hell an I upgrading to a damn 4000 series. I'd rather get a 3090 ti. At least if the price is right. The damn 12gb 4080 has like 3000 less cuda cores and only 192 bit bus. That's just sad.

You mean nulls Latest building?

Build**🙄

[steady glacier]

and the one from 2 days ago

[lofty thistle]

lexar's doing his own stuff

im just taking it ez now

[steady glacier]

the demo was made before RTX so it had a really lightweight scattering solution that looks better than RTX imo

[random owl]

No shhhit?! I left RTX on with it! Fuck if I can get those frames back that'd kick so much ass!

[steady glacier]

it's the same technique in the demo

it's what makes the light look so good

[random owl]

I will leave raytraced reflections on though. I hate the way SSR looks. It's come a long way but still looks like dog shit compared to raytraced reflections.

[steady glacier]

yeah same

Imma turn off everything aside from reflections

[lofty thistle]

V³ has scattering too

[steady glacier]

based

[random owl]

Facts 👌🤝

[steady glacier]

https://tenor.com/view/micah-bell-red-dead2-micah-bell-death-micah-falls-red-dead-redemption-gif-26083603

me when no lexar build

[random owl]

V³ was the one uploaded to your gethub 2 days ago? Or no?

[steady glacier]

no

V3 is it's own mod

it just changes the vanilla lighting and makes it look slightly less shitty

[random owl]

Gotcha! Just trying to stay on top of it

[steady glacier]

The E3 is real

https://tenor.com/view/cat-funny-weird-stare-big-eyes-gif-26186132

[random owl]

Dude that just looks so fucking sexy compared to vanilla. Fuck

[steady glacier]

shit comparison but yeah

[random owl]

Y'all seen the steam stats on cyberpunk today? Shit's crazy

If that's shit gimme 2 scoops! 😆

[lofty thistle]

old but is good

[steady glacier]

I NEED NEW

[lofty thistle]

remove R18 obviously

[steady glacier]

WITH SCATTER

[lofty thistle]

gimme a second then

[steady glacier]

It's just a bad comparison because the time is all off

[random owl]

What's that archive for? Hmmmm

[lofty thistle]

have scatter

[random owl]

Ahhh I see😆

[steady glacier]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-funny-weird-stare-big-eyes-gif-26186132

[random owl]

Freaking nuts 😂 over 130k

[steady glacier]

tfw people actually don't buy into the review bombing forever

[lofty thistle]

WHAT!?!?!?!? GMAE IS NOT BAED? I WATCH LE ANMIE AND NOW GOUD? NO VVAE WHAS THE PRESS ALWYAS LIYING 2 ME!?!?!?!? I DNOT NO WAY THIS HPAPPEN GAME WEAS BAD AND NOW IS NOT OHOW

[steady glacier]

lmfao exactly

I always knew this shit was gold

[random owl]

I was enjoying the game from day one. Riding around on my Kusanaga in a t pose with no pants on😂 I never listen to what others tell me. I experience shit myself.

Null 🤣🤣🤣

[lofty thistle]

GAME IS GOUDA BUT CPDR IS NOT MAKING MOER EXPLANSION?!?!! I WAOUNDER WYYYYH

[random owl]

😭😭🤣🤣

[steady glacier]

IT COydLNDT BE BECAUSE WE HARASSAED THE DEVALAAOPERS AND REVIEW BOMBEDS THE GAMEZ COULD ITZ?

[random owl]

Probably ya damn 🐑

🤣🤣

[lofty thistle]

lexar no like me upload pversion delaet of your harde drive blsssss

[steady glacier]

i just want lexar to maek best mod evar

[lofty thistle]

but yeah

i forgot lexar, sorry

[random owl]

🤣🤣😭 y'all are a trip

[lofty thistle]

bls forgive me

[steady glacier]

lexar be like "I spent 10000 years making this, lemme just not upload it"

https://tenor.com/view/the-movie-room-hes-true-mouthfuls-mouthfuls69-youtooz-gif-19825918

[lofty thistle]

truly, but, the man does a god job, let's be honest

[random owl]

No doubt definitely does

[steady glacier]

Yeah no doubts there, he understands the objective and sticks with it

just don't want him to go too far and have it become something bigger than demo restoration

lmao

[lofty thistle]

if you're reading lexar: take your time man, just, don't be afraid to release indev versions

[steady glacier]

fr

[random owl]

Fr fr

[lofty thistle]

in fact, it's almost always better to do so

[steady glacier]

yeah so we can give feedback and make comparisons

and find bugs

[lofty thistle]

yup

[random owl]

I'm good for finding bugs in mods. I'm even better at breaking my damn game in the process.

[lofty thistle]

woah

[random owl]

I'm js🤷🏼‍♂️😆

[lofty thistle]

i was running in 4k?

that shit was 75fps smooth as fuck

RTX 3070 is the best

[steady glacier]

woah

I'm going to rob you

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/716477925670518784/1020338221864976454/Bez_nazwy.gif

[random owl]

I love my 3080. Would love a 3090 ti doe

[steady glacier]

gimmie a 4090

ti

and an i12

[random owl]

https://tenor.com/view/more-power-home-improvement-tim-gif-22738460

[lofty thistle]

well, just so you nerds are satisfied, this is the old build

just imagine how the new one looks

[random owl]

🤤

[steady glacier]

Damn null, that looks terrible

JKJK

[lofty thistle]

oh ok, @acoustic sandal delete the project start over

[random owl]

It looks like a polluted cesspool 🤤😆

[lofty thistle]

(btw, don't lexar)

[steady glacier]

yeah, I demand it

delete repo

[random owl]

Nooooo

[steady glacier]

https://tenor.com/view/hungover-krapula-not-feeling-good-hangover-gif-15433852

[random owl]

Damn that dude's smoking that good good. Look at them blasted eyes.🤤😆

[steady glacier]

me rn

[lofty thistle]

yeah lexar, mod looks bad 0/10 (this is one of the most beautiful games i've ever seen now)

[gray glacier]

Must've been smoking that tegridy @steady glacier

[steady glacier]

Clearly he can't run V3

[lofty thistle]

but he can run E3

[steady glacier]

bro I'm smokin on that black lace shit

[steady glacier]

exactly

latest E3 build with scattering runs like 20 fps faster for me than vanilla with RTX off on both

clearly the lighting change in vanilla was for the best!

[lofty thistle]

"but you don't understand, we had to include the advanced technology of ray-tracing for the 200 million USD deal with NVIDIA, you must understand!"

"and we had to hire a new lighting studio to spend more time fixing bugs!"

[steady glacier]

man I wouldn't even fucking care about RTX implementation, why tf did they have to make the game green

[random owl]

I just need to change out archive files correct?

[steady glacier]

idk tbh

confused me too

[steady glacier]

Here, take a hit

[gray glacier]

• Takes a hit

• INTENSE INHALING *

[random owl]

Null do I switch out R18.archive with the one you uploaded a few minutes ago?

[steady glacier]

• OD's (no trauma team) *

https://tenor.com/view/cat-funny-weird-stare-big-eyes-gif-26186132

[random owl]

Hell yes😆

[gray glacier]

This sum GEWD SHIET!!!

[steady glacier]

Why does everyone in NC either have no Trauma Team or TT Platinum?

ain't never heard of no Bronze TT member

[lofty thistle]

uhhh

[gray glacier]

Motherfucking city's too picky for that platinum

The poor doesn't even bother getting Bronze at all

[random owl]

What what?!😆

[steady glacier]

lmfao I wonder what bronze even is

do they just like drive there and not shoot at bad guys or something?

[lofty thistle]

it would be like just insurance

not even AV

[steady glacier]

they have free insurance too though

[random owl]

Like I said I easily break my game and I'd like to avoid that if possible. I finally got a stable modded game and would like to keep that way 🤷🏼‍♂️😆

[steady glacier]

with those free hospitals

[lofty thistle]

insurance and like warranty fulfillment rights

like if you got your cyberware damaged they will replace it free of charge

and/or reconstructive surgery privileges

[steady glacier]

Nah I just go to Doc Fingers for that

[lofty thistle]

seems about right for TT bronze

TT gold would be on-foot team for recovery

and TT bronze stuff

[gray glacier]

What about silver

[steady glacier]

With Silver they just drive and then spit on your body

and drive away

👍