this is a thread where you can vent about how much you hate bloatware
#OneDrive
flat barn
flat barn
And OneDrive is the worst of them all.
I hate how intentionally hard it is to avoid. I don't need two identical looking folders called "Documents"
No, I'm not gonna pay you 99€ a year. I already have three other cloud drives. Which I installed. Intentionally.
And how often are you gonna ask anyways?
If my PC was a professional working environment, OneDrive would be called into HR for harrassment.
They're literally asking me if I'm single...
If people would find OneDrive funny, there would be jokes about it like the ones where someone's calling you about your car's extended warranty
mighty panther
Never experienced them asking “plz use me” though there’s so much to install
At least on Google you can do all the shit through their servers instead of downloading
flat barn
At least on Google you can do all the shit through their servers instead of down...
I don't mind google drive. Rarely use it, but hey, at least it allows you to process its content with a server with an A100 GPU. I just downloaded it today on one of my machines that I use more often and was like "whaaa? I don't have it installed yet? How come?"
What can I do with OneDrive except of not find something I'm looking for.
And don't get me started on saving word documents...
And I run GrapheneOS. It's not like I'm a google fanboy by a long stretch.
I replaced my Gmail address with Proton Mail years ago.
But at least Google politely asks before it tries to penetrate my OpSec holes.
mighty panther
True
iron epoch
It's also fun when switching language layouts. OneDrive doesn't get that somehow
And the "keep on this machine" option doesn't seem to work recursively either
flat barn
omg I never tried that, but I noticed that pattern, because I have different languages set up on different machines... and I was wondering... if I change the language... I mean it looks like they found a way make folder names work in a completely new way where they don't mean s**t anymore... but I don't trust that all the other pieces of the system know that..
iron epoch
Yeah, it used to be a visual change but the underlying folder was documents. But not always it seems
somber dune
They're literally asking me if I'm single...
I find it so annoying that microsoft 365 is a subscription service now.
woven fjord
Uni make me use it. Well, uni + co-authors who don't markdown/LaTeX and I'm on *nix
iron epoch
Sysadmin for 1300 windows users...
All in all, it's cheaper for us to run o365 than have the hardware in house
flat barn
All in all, it's cheaper for us to run o365 than have the hardware in house
That's how they get you. I just bought the most recent version of Word just to be really sure, and you can tell they're phasing it out.
iron epoch
Yeah, everything going web. Outlook is very much on the chopping block
flat barn
Yeah, everything going web. Outlook is very much on the chopping block
I think I still have .pst file backups from 2002. What will happen to those? 😆
iron epoch
Not saying the app will go away, but they seem to be removing features to make it on par with outlook on the wev
So your pst will be fine for a bit
flat barn
So your pst will be fine for a bit
Good, I don't want to lose those memories of the early chatroom flirtations and loveletter e-mails of the good old times.
Unlike OneDrive. Nobody loves OneDrive.
iron epoch
True. But I'd argue to extract mails you really want to keep and save them as loose files perhaps. That's a little more readable by other software ;)
woven fjord
Sysadmin for 1300 windows users...
That's your problem right there 
iron epoch
I know. Really want to move into Linux tbh
But can't be arsed to find something else at the moment or take the pay cut to a more junior position
woven fjord
I don't. I used to be a linux admin and I don't want to be in techbro world anymore, but might have to. Might not be work for me in my field and it is something I am capable of that has jobs. sigh
iron epoch
Yeah that as well. The entire ai push sucks and adds no value in most cases. Can't wait for that bubble to burst properly
flat barn
I just heard about this other this Microsoft is implementing...
Recall...
I swear 2025 is gonna be the year people switch to Linux as their daily driver.
Recall is taking screenshots every 5 seconds and using Azure AI to tag the pictures with metadata
Whaaaat?
Damn that's already old news, but.... jeez I'm glad there's some watchdogs out there barking up the right tree when things like that are about to be rolled out
mighty panther
Istg I’m on the verge of having a Rasp Pi OS be my daily PC driver at this rate
flat barn
Istg I’m on the verge of having a Rasp Pi OS be my daily PC driver at this rate
going this rate, the 5 ain't lookin half bad compared to Win11 performance-wise 
mighty panther
going this rate, the 5 ain't lookin half bad compared to Win11 performance-wise ...
Have the 4, and its pretty good for web browsing applications. BRb and ill test with youtube
Hope its one of those "yeet the video quality down" situations
flat barn
Have the 4, and its pretty good for web browsing applications. BRb and ill test ...
I mean I'll be honest, I'll be paying that extra few Euros for the On/Off switch they put on the 5.
to hell with performance 😆
mighty panther
the kit that i got with the 4 has an on/off switch on the power cord
flat barn
yeah I have these as well... got some for the Zero W...
mighty panther
UwU
flat barn
DO NOT USE WITH THE ZERO W
mighty panther
???
flat barn
seriously the amount of times I rewrote those SD cards...
You CAN use them, IF you have expensive SD cards.
mighty panther
So TLDR: will avoid the Zero W
flat barn
if you use cheap SD cards, 1/5 times it will fuck your boot sector
mighty panther
if you use cheap SD cards, 1/5 times it will fuck your boot sector
oh hell no
mighty panther
Hope its one of those "yeet the video quality down" situations
ok update: chucked the video to 240p and it seems to work well???
flat barn
So TLDR: will avoid the Zero W
yeah honestly I don't even know what people use the Zero W for... I got it for video playback, like..... switch on the power in the museum, pixies dance, video goes brrrrrr
i DOES do the video playback
mighty panther
Theres some Pwnagotchi stuff with a Pi Zero, but that borders on illegal under certain contexts, so ill avoid that topic alltogether
In other contexts: the Pi 4 is shockingly capable, and if it can handle this one website I need for my current job, ill probably change my daily to that
it works
iron epoch
Pi4 can do h265 decoding right? It is a really nifty powerhouse for the 8 watts it pulls
mighty panther
Pi4 can do h265 decoding right? It is a really nifty powerhouse for the 8 watts ...
From what i am reading, it can, just dont expect it to be fast
iron epoch
1080p worked fine. 4K was a little too much ask yes
mighty panther
Personally i use 240p just to make sure theres some breathing room
feral timber
Hello I hate one drive. I heard this is the place to say so?
iron epoch
Welcome to the club
mighty panther
Out of spite a Raspberry Pi storage system lmfao. But yea, condolances m8
iron epoch
It's not impossible on Linux but easy it aint
woven fjord
It's not impossible on Linux but easy it aint
I use onedriver, so far it's ok. I mount it as an external drive.
iron epoch
yeah, but syncing was a manual / cron action right?
woven fjord
yeah, but syncing was a manual / cron action right?
Not that I remember, but then it has been a while. I try to avoid mounting it at this stage, if at all possible 😉
iron epoch
Last time I tried it was 2 years ago so same :)
woven fjord
Last time I tried it was 2 years ago so same :)
Mind you, I might have just put the cronjob and forgotten about it
I did not, I only have backups in there
woven fjord
Are you also using onedriver? ( https://github.com/jstaf/onedriver )
flat barn
Hello I hate one drive. I heard this is the place to say so?
You can also complain about Cortana if you want, but OneDrive is just the worst
feral timber
Pretty sure Microsoft has killed Cortana now. Which is ironic given she'd have been ideal for the llm pivot
mighty panther
Did Cortana go into rampancy? /j
iron epoch
Cortana is still there, but it'll be eaten by copilot provably
iron epoch
Can't wait to turn that off everywhere
mighty panther
Even more reason to stay away from Windows for the time being
woven fjord
One thing though, I think I hate teams and office365 more than drive.
iron epoch
it's all sharepoint in the end
feral timber
Cortana is still there, but it'll be eaten by copilot provably
yeah they ended official support for it last year https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/topic/end-of-support-for-cortana-d025b39f-ee5b-4836-a954-0ab646ee1efa
flat barn
One thing though, I think I hate teams and office365 more than drive.
Let me guess - you're forced to use it?
Because I have a hard time deciding but teams and 365 play almost no role at all in my life while drive bugs me every time I want to save a document. In general I'd agree though and hate all of them.
woven fjord
Let me guess - you're forced to use it?
Most universities do 😭
Because of collaborative features also across 365 with other universities.
And cheap + don't need in house expertise on how to actually rn anything.
Can't wait until they get hit with some anti-trust thing too which collapses the entire house of cards
somber dune
Because I have a hard time deciding but teams and 365 play almost no role at all...
isnt office 365 like word and excel and stuff?
iron epoch
and sharepoint and teams
and powerbi
and eh. Loads of stuff
https://m365maps.com/files/Microsoft-365-E3.htm for what you get for the 'regular' office user license in a big corp
flat barn
isnt office 365 like word and excel and stuff?
The carcass that's left of it