#Demystifying the Dunning Kruger effect

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stark magnet
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So, mentions about the Dunning Kruger effect (DK from now on, we're not going to be talking about Donkey Kong) happened in #far-right-monitoring and I would like to expand a bit on that and maybe invite discussion.

The DK effect has become a common pop psychology mention regarding how people who have a low level of knowledge/amateurs tend to overestimate their skills and experts do the opposite.

However, this conception is actually a bit of a DK effect too!

What DK actually estates is that amateurs have a much higher tendency to overestimate their skills but experts generally do not underestimate their skills, their estimate of their real skill is actually closer to reality. In fact, the DK paper showed that experts still estimated on average their skills to be higher than of amateurs.

The misconception regarding DK comes from the ratio between estimated skill and real skill, which is significantly higher in amateurs than experts. This can of course lead to situations where some individuals will be more confident to talk about topics they're still amateurs (the famous "mount stupid") and similarly experts undervaluing their skill because of impostor syndrome and other causes, but that would be further down the line of individual factors rather than the general trend line seen for DK

Also the DK effect may just be much smaller than originally anticipated @rugged osprey mentioned a recent paper mentioning how DK may just be an statistical fluke. I think I had read that paper before but forgot about it, but I gave it a quick read now and it mentions that the DK effect may be smaller than first anticipated but it is not conclusive about that (like a lot of effects found in cogsci/psy papers)

So yes, that's my daily TED talk/rant on a common psychology misconception 😅

south aspen
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I think it had largely been in some ways a bit of a respectful poke/prod.

fervent charm
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"undervaluing their skill because of impostor syndrome"
-i'm in this sentence and I don't like it

south aspen
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I'm still new. I'll understand the vibe here eventually. XD

stark magnet
dusk goblet
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For me the biggest contributor to this is not having an accurate baseline of what other people know. More or less:
"[Insert complicated niche knowledge I have here]? That's easy, I'm sure everyone knows this!"

proud zealot
south aspen
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Reminds me of this video

south aspen
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south aspen