#Howdy! I'm trying to create a zenith

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supple sparrow
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cc @hazy mountain

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@broken rampart thanks for those examples. It's a great way to advance the discussion! 🙏

supple sparrow
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Are you leaning a certain way given your use cases?

broken rampart
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I'm not sure. I have under a dozen optional flags (!) . The "With" style feels pretty verbose when running dagger call; however, the Optional[] style feels pretty verbose as an imported module.

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The "With" style feels good as an imported module and the Optional[] style feels good as dagger call cli arguments.

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Is dagger call to be the common way to use modules?

supple sparrow
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That might be a useful distinction @broken rampart. If you plan for your module to mostly be a "component" or "utility" module that is dagger mod installed by other modules, then perhaps the With style is best. For a top-level or "main" module that is likely to be invoked by the CLI with dagger call, then perhaps you could use the Optional[] style. We're still figuring out the best DX for various situations, but what do you think of that idea?

cc @upbeat cypress

broken rampart
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@supple sparrow right on. Yeah, that feels right. I’m playing around with supporting both at the moment; I was thinking I’d write examples in the readme for each style.

hazy mountain
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Hey @broken rampart! Good to see you here 😄

Yeah this DX wart has become more and more apparent, ends up touching on quite a bit.

I just opened this issue to discuss more: https://github.com/dagger/dagger/issues/6115

Apologies all for the vague thoughts at parts; it ties into so many other things we're working on + thinking about that it's difficult to quickly put together 100% coherent thoughts 😅

Hopefully it's enough to at least seed more discussion amongst everyone

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Modules: `With*` pattern doesn't translate well to the CLI · Issue ...

The pattern of writing modules that use With* functions to enable updates of object state in a builder-pattern/"fluent" style works pretty well for codegen clients, but looks clunky in th...

upbeat cypress
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@hazy mountain should we bring back the topic of language-native one-liners? The CLI invocation wasn’t meant to be the final form for end users, or at least not the only form

hazy mountain
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Right good point! I had forgotten about that, also a viable route

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added a comment about that too, glad you remembered, such a great feature to have in general and surprisingly easy to implement given how complicated it sounds at first glance 😄

supple sparrow
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Was discussing with @tame glacier yesterday evening too. Hot topic.

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An idea came up of taking WithFoo(foo string)
which would look like with-foo --foo in the CLI
and making that callable as just --foo or something, IIRC