international

[crimson leaf]

too

[proud bison]

then Biden is already a president

[crimson leaf]

false

[proud bison]

in Georgia Biden is 18k short now

[crimson leaf]

Nevada is left

20%

[proud bison]

nah

[crimson leaf]

almost

[proud bison]

NV is chill

just wait

30 mins

you will see

[crimson leaf]

oh, cool

[proud bison]

in NV, all vote left is mail-in

Biden will get it

[crimson leaf]

🤞

[proud bison]

but NV doesnt matter if we dont get AZ

unless we get GA

[crimson leaf]

most fun elections ever

very close

[hidden jewel]

honestly we just need PA

which we will get

[proud bison]

yeah we get PA and its over

[crimson leaf]

I hope biden wins in the end

[proud bison]

1.9% short rn

and expectation is

that among all the vote that is left

biden leads 70-80% in PA

[crimson leaf]

1.9 is large gap imo

[proud bison]

no

you know whats a large gap

[hidden jewel]

nah there's like 500k mail in left

[proud bison]

16%

[hidden jewel]

in PA

[proud bison]

that was difference on Tuseday night

[hidden jewel]

skew that conservatively 70-30 on biden

[proud bison]

and now it's 1.9%

[hidden jewel]

and its still enough

[proud bison]

I think Biden will not only win PA

he will win by 1%

or more

[hidden jewel]

and then we will go to court

fkn Trump

[proud bison]

yeah lol

[hidden jewel]

i just dont wanna see this dude again

like gtfo please

[proud bison]

yeah he really bets on Supreme Court determining the election

thats why he pushed to get Barrett there

[hidden jewel]

yeah

supreme court is badly stacked against us honestly

[proud bison]

0.3% in Georgia!!!!

[hidden jewel]

unless Barrett recuses herself

[proud bison]

only 15k votes difference

[hidden jewel]

if GA actually flips

its a done race

[proud bison]

I mean the only possibly legitimate reason they have to discard PA is to discard votes that arrived after election day

and I don't believe there would be a lot of them

so if Biden wins by comfortable margin in PA

then there is no chance

[hidden jewel]

yeah

[proud bison]

to do anything to it

[hidden jewel]

i wonder how many of those votes there are

i think its safe to say that those votes would similarly skew 80-20 biden

so hopefully they dont make the difference

[proud bison]

its super unlikely, but note that if we lose NV, AZ, and PA, and win GA, it's a tie and Trump wins

[hidden jewel]

right

anything is possible

[proud bison]

but we got NV

[hidden jewel]

but also its looking good right now

[proud bison]

chill

there is still like 19% of votes left in Philly

its like guaranteed to be 80% Biden

and the rest of PA

[hidden jewel]

hmm Alleghany is taking a break from counting today

[proud bison]

will be for Biden too, not sure what margin, but definitely for Biden

[hidden jewel]

lmao

they really trying to take NV's spot

[proud bison]

yeah I'm scared we may not even know the result this week

[hidden jewel]

hopefully the result doesn't hinge on PA

that's the best idea in many ways

no supreme court nonsense

and a quicker result

[proud bison]

not sure if AZ will finish counting this week either honestl

I think only if we win NV and GA we will know soon lol

and you know

once Biden surpasses Trump in PA

there is like no way he will win with remaining votes

[livid glacier]

i don't think there's enough to flip ga

0.3 pct tho

[hidden jewel]

ga will be mad close

i think they have 40k votes left to count

with biden probably securing like 60-70% of those at this rate

[livid glacier]

let's hope

it'll come down to like a 1k vote margin tho probs

[hidden jewel]

something like that

there's gonna be a meaningful recount for sure at this rate in ga

[livid glacier]

yeah and likely trump legal action

[proud bison]

Biden won Michigan by 150k votes

I'm really positive about the blue wall

if GA or AZ comes it would be just a nice addition to shut down Trump's legal actions

[livid glacier]

yeah

it all depends on the votes left in philly

[hidden jewel]

holy shit 15% votes left in philly

and its 80-20

gg

[proud bison]

I think votes left in Philly will be 85-90% Biden

[livid glacier]

he'll gain about 80k votes there

so he needs about 40 more in pittsburgh and philly burbs

[proud bison]

I say he will gain about 100k votes there and gap will be about 20-25k

but it's only Philly

I think in every other county

Biden will be leading among the votes that are left

cuz its all mail-in

I think we are really chillin in PA

even if he gets 80k in Philly, it's still chill

note that yesterday Bucks county was Trump, now they counted a little bit of mail-in ballots there, and Biden wins by 2% in Bucks county

[livid glacier]

yeah true

nevada pullin thru a little

[proud bison]

yeah, the trend is important

I think Biden will widen the margin

[errant isle]

Funny how there are tons of ppl who believe in this man’s words

[lofty siren]

They don’t think they just believe

[proud bison]

0.2% Georgia!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

on Fox at least lol

https://www.predictit.org/

thats crazy

[lofty siren]

Come on Georgia

[proud bison]

imagine Biden winning by 10 votes lmao

[lofty siren]

Nevada press conference didn’t say shit lol

[proud bison]

fuckin nevada

[little bison]

we still positive on PA?

[proud bison]

ye

very

biden just needs 60% in the remaining votes

but he will probably get close to 80%

[lofty siren]

Lol a reporter just went berserk in Nevada press conference

Nevada will report a portion tmr at this time smh

[weak ferry]

How many left in georgia

[lofty siren]

50k

[weak ferry]

And there's a 14K difference now

[lofty siren]

Yes

Biden just needs 65 percent

[little bison]

ga's going to be close

[weak ferry]

Possible all mail in right

And near the atlanta area right

[lofty siren]

Yeah and savannah area

[weak ferry]

65 is hard

How much has biden been getting

Recently

[lofty siren]

70 - 80 around Atlanta

55 around savannah

It’s rlly gonna come down to a few k

[lofty siren]

This spokesperson is getting roasted lmao

[hidden jewel]

lmao nevada only gonna report again at 10am tmr

and even that is only gonna be like half the remaining votes

[proud bison]

damn we can really get Georgia

holy shit

also fuck nevada bruh

they were supposed to announce today morning

omg apparently not a single county in PA finished counting

come on man

[hidden jewel]

when does AZ report next

[proud bison]

^

[lofty siren]

I think the Pittsburgh county can’t count rn cause of trump’s lawsuit

[proud bison]

yeah, mortherfucker just defers his doom

[lofty siren]

Not sure if it’s the same for the entire state

[proud bison]

nah

Pennsylvania 1.7%, it's going slowly, but we will get there

imagine kicking out stephen miller

that guy is a pure evil

[weak ferry]

Georgia 9K

How many left

I don't think we're gonna make it

I hope it works somehow

[proud bison]

Where do you see 9k

does anyone know how many votes in PA arrived after the election day?

[hidden jewel]

yeah tbh i think there's too few votes left in GA to make the flip

[proud bison]

if we come down to like 5k votes

the recount is not impossible

no worries, President Biden will win PA

1.6% PA

[brittle mesa]

Does anyone have a link to the new pay requirements for h1b?

Mostly looking for SF/NYC/Boston

[proud bison]

I think once all votes in Philly, Delaware, and Bucks are counted, Biden will surpass Trump in PA, then Pittsburg and other counties will be just a nice addition

lets keep fingers crossed

[proud bison]

Pennsylvania finally under 100k

[lofty siren]

Just did an interview and interviewers name is John king

[proud bison]

bullshit lol

[lofty siren]

Lmao it’s true

He said he doesn’t watch CNN lol

[proud bison]

oh shit

maybe he is a republican

haha

5:15 p.m. ET: Pennsylvania's secretary of state will hold a news conference

[lofty siren]

I don’t trust news conferences now

After the Nevada shit show

Lmao John king demanding numbers for every county on the map

[proud bison]

I'm not watching anymore

this shit goes waaaaaaaay too slow

[lofty siren]

I’m just putting it on in the background

[proud bison]

I'm just hoping they don't lie about when those votes from PA come

[lofty siren]

While doing hw lol

[proud bison]

cuz when majority of remaining votes in PA actually comes

if it really comes tonight

we are done and we officially announce President Biden

90k votes difference now, 1.4%

we still dont have Philly and Bucks

I've seen 93% of mail votes in Philly are for President Biden

[hidden jewel]

AZ still holding too

interesting

[proud bison]

we didnt get almost any votes from AZ

did we?

*new

[hidden jewel]

like 5k new ones

not much

[proud bison]

bruh

there is 400k coming

I think President Biden may be a toast in AZ

[lofty siren]

Basically there has been no new info today

[pale karma]

Correct

[proud bison]

honestly they should call back AZ and call PA for Biden, math says he is going to win by 50-140k lol

[hidden jewel]

theres only 85k ballots left in philly

mail in

to be counted

total 350k mail in to be counted in PA

only 10k mail in ballots came in after election day (and will be segregated)

so if biden has >20-30k margin PA is done

even with the whole supreme court stuff

[lofty siren]

Only 9k difference left in Georgia

[hidden jewel]

idk if there's enough votes left in georgia

[lofty siren]

CNN still says 98 percent of votes processed

[proud bison]

@hidden jewel look at this website

https://www.votespa.com/About-Elections/Pages/Counting-Dashboard.aspx

and then here https://www.electionreturns.pa.gov/General/CountyBreakDownResults?officeId=1&districtId=1&ElectionID=undefined&ElectionType=undefined&IsActive=undefined

if you do the math

we are done

margin 50-140k

[pale karma]

yo biden just said "when the count is finished, senator harris and I will be declared winners"

bruh that confidence

[proud bison]

I mean yeah

he already knows he won PA

cuz dems did the math

and Trump knows he lost it, that's why he is mad tweeting all day "I won big LEGAL votes in PA"

he is preparing his supporters not to accept the message that Biden won

[lofty siren]

Biden just came out

Ugh I thought he was gonna say sth

[pale karma]

why doesn't AP call the entire race for Biden then? if the math is in Biden's favor

[proud bison]

thats what I said

they should cancel AZ

and call PA instead

[pale karma]

cancel AZ in the sense?

[proud bison]

Biden shouldnt be declared winner in AZ

I'd say it's 50-50 he wins AZ

[pale karma]

why can't they call both tho?

its not like they call only one state at a time right?

[proud bison]

why would they call AZ if its very much possible he is not gonna win it

[pale karma]

yeah but it's not a "either this or this" thing right? It's not like they are not able to call PA bcs they are calling AZ

[proud bison]

PA said that they will have results tonight

so people are just waiting for it

[pale karma]

also why tf is nevada so slow

[proud bison]

AZ doesnt even matter anymore if PA is called

[lapis wharf]

This maybe gets called tomorrow night but tbh seeing it going longer

[proud bison]

I mean if they really have majority in PA this night

then Biden will be called cuz he will surpass Trump

and it's clear the remaining votes only favor Biden

[lapis wharf]

I mean yeah I think Biden victory is inevitable but don’t think we have clear enough picture tonight imo

PA said from jump their goal was Friday

[proud bison]

if what PA said is true, I think we may

unless they slip

[lapis wharf]

PA having a press conference at 5:30

[proud bison]

or fuckin Trump succeedes in stopping vote counting in more counties

there is also supreme court hearing for PA at 5:30

Trump stopped counting votes in Pittsburg till tomorrow

but Biden doesny need Pittsburg to surpass Trump

we will see how it goes

trump is definitely trying to steal the election tho

maybe thats why they are not calling PA yet so Trump isnt in an even bigger rage

[lapis wharf]

Lol he was always gonna do that act like a sore loser when it got close

[proud bison]

ye

I'd expect Biden being announced tonight/tomorrow

unless soemthing bad happens in Penn

[pale karma]

what if Trumpety Trump wins PA, NC, and Georgia

[proud bison]

he doesnt

[pale karma]

and wins Nevada with a few thousand votes

[lofty siren]

He’s not gonna win PA lmao

[proud bison]

just do the math

Trump would need to really break the rules of statistics

in order to win

like really heavily break

like fuckin invalidate them

[pale karma]

wait but Biden isn't leading in PA rn tho?

[proud bison]

yeah it's 1.3% away now

I would expect Biden surpassing this evening unless something bad happens in Penn in terms of Trump stopping the vote count

[pale karma]

yeah so it's highly likely that Biden is gonna win PA, not like statistically Trump can't win PA right?

[proud bison]

I mean with statistics it's never 100% sure

but imagine

Biden rn is winning all mail-in ballots with 80%

like look at this

1.5m ballots counted

he wins by 80% there

[pale karma]

I mean yeah I agree with you but that's not breaking statstics

[proud bison]

and in the remaining 300k

he would need to go down from 80% to under 60%

it is breaking statistics

we are not talking about 1000 or even 10000, we have a sample of 1500000

[pale karma]

yeah but that's probablity not statistics lol. If there's statistics that the next 80% of the incoming votes in PA are 100% for Biden, then Trump would be breaking laws of statistics

lol idk why i explained that

[proud bison]

ehhh

just wait for the result

[pale karma]

yes yes

also since we in this channel anyways, didn't trump change H1B laws to merit or sth?

[proud bison]

nah, he basically killed H1b, especially for intl students

also, https://www.predictit.org/ Biden 90% chances, Pennsylvania 91%

[lofty siren]

And he’s on track of killing OPT

[pale karma]

I didn’t understand what exactly did Trump do? I heard he changed it from lottery type to merit but is that it?

[lofty siren]

He first raised the minimum wage required for H1B, which makes most new grad position in tech ineligible

He then cancelled the lottery type, but instead sends out visas based on salary, so again new grad positions are completely excluded

[pale karma]

How much did he change the minimum wage to per year?

[lofty siren]

In SF the base is 145k

[pale karma]

Yo wtf

[lofty siren]

And then

He restricts all student stays in the US to at most 2-4 years, with additional stays pending approval

So OPT is out of the picture

And ofc

There’s the whole shot show he did in July

So yeah

[pale karma]

Really? Who tf earn 145k right it of college? I mean I guess some do but wutttt

[lofty siren]

Base salary

Not the package

That’s the craziest part

[pale karma]

Is it really 145k 😳😳😳

[lofty siren]

Yeah

It’s 45 percentile

[pale karma]

So 55% ppl have a base salary of above 145k???

[lofty siren]

I forgot if it was 45 or 55 percentile, there’s a website which discloses salary levels

It ends up being 145k

Remember it’s San Francisco, SDE position

[pale karma]

Damn if that many people do earn that much in SF it’s kinda justified I guess

Also damn ppl are rich

[lofty siren]

Yeah, but still, the goal is not to make H1B more justified

It’s to set it at precisely the level so most new grads are excluded

[pale karma]

Hm do you know how much that bar is in Seattle and stuff?

[lofty siren]

I think around 130k but I don’t remember for sure

[brittle mesa]

nyc?

[lofty siren]

But that’s why I’m trying to farm tableau lol

I don’t remember for nyc

[pale karma]

Imma just try to find out

[brittle mesa]

tableau is 145k+ base?

jeez

[lofty siren]

I think around 128-130k

That’s enough for Seattle

Also penn is now 1.2%

[hidden jewel]

penn is down to under 80k gap

[lofty siren]

Lmmmao trump making a remark at 6;30

[pale karma]

Penn was at what gap at 80 percent?

Yo whatt pretty sure it wasn’t >10% right?

[lofty siren]

Lemme double check

[pale karma]

Does anyone have a source that shows time series data for votes?

Like a live graph or sth?

[lofty siren]

I was wrong, at 77 percent the lead is 10 percent

[pale karma]

Where did you cross check that info?

[lofty siren]

I pulled out a CNN news report that had the voting info on the bottom of the screen lmao

[median hare]

The last hope is Nevada and Georgia

[lofty siren]

I love when John king says

“The president has a very casual relationship with truth”

[proud bison]

Trump adviser says the "math isn't on our side. We need an act of God to alter the course"

told you

they already counted that

1.1% PA

[lofty siren]

this trump speech is so full of shit

[proud bison]

is he talking now

[lofty siren]

Yeah

[proud bison]

I kinda dont wanna hear that but I also want

[lofty siren]

It’s like a perfect encapsulation of his tenure

[proud bison]

WTF

what a fuckin manipulator

IT WENT DOWN

what the fuck did you expect

you told your voters to vote in person

so it went up at first

and now everything is going down as mail-in is counted

what a fuckin manipulator

PA 1%!!!!!

65k

[lofty siren]

Ffffffff

What a slap in the face

Trump is still rambling

I can’t believe this is a prepared speech

[proud bison]

I love how Clinton lost election because of 3 states where she lost by less than 0.7% and she was able to immediately call Trump and congratulate

and Trump is losing the same states

by more than 1%

and he cannot admit

GEORGIA 3.5K!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

holy fuck

Fox shows basically a tie rn 49.4%-49.4%

Biden may win Georgia!!!!!!!

even if not, it could literally flip on recount

[little bison]

ga's so close now

[proud bison]

yup

Georgia may really come to President Biden

AZ will probably go to Trump

but if Biden really wins GA, then most likely, he will have 295 electoral votes and it's not even disputable

PA finally 0.9%!

[little bison]

i think Biden has a solid shot at AZ

[proud bison]

Possibly, we don't know, Arizona is pretty much 50-50

but PA is like for 95% Biden at this point

[livid glacier]

18k votes left in georgia in heavy blue counties

cobb/dekalb

biden needs a 61pct win

very doable

[proud bison]

I think it went down, I think he needed 64% before

so he outperformed

Georgia may really come to dems

holy shit

when was the last time it happened

28 years ago

nice

honestly I would have never expected Georgia to come for President Biden before the election lol, I thought pollsters were dreaming

[lofty siren]

Honestly at this point it's not even about whether biden will win

It's just about how much he can beat trump

[proud bison]

yeah lmao

[weak ferry]

How many left in georgia

[proud bison]

how much President Biden will beat his ass

16k apparently

[weak ferry]

And what is the rate at which he's winning?

[proud bison]

farmer rohanzo said 61%

[weak ferry]

As in he's getting. 65

Ohh

0.61

It's hard then

[proud bison]

not that hard

apparently the votes left are in heavily democratic places

and I believe that Biden's rate before was 64%

so he outperformed

it's very possible that Biden will win by extremely slim margin

like so slim

that it will be equal percentage to the tenth point

I hope we win Pennsylvania before we lose Arizona cuz Trump supporters are gonna get false hopes

oh shit there are more votes in GA

they also have provisional ballots

[lofty siren]

more votes as in mail in votes?

[proud bison]

provisional are that there was some problem with them

and people need to come and confirm shit

but looks very much possible Biden carries GA

they say Biden may get even up to 80% of those remaining votes

I think we are really flipping GA

[lapis wharf]

About 17k votes left in 7 counties plus provisionals in GA

[proud bison]

ye

looks good

those 17k are all mail in

looks like votes left in Clayton county alone will be enough for Biden to flip GA

John King must like holy shit I didn't sign up for working 24/7 lmao

[lofty siren]

I actually think John king is having fun

He seems really excited about recording numbers

[proud bison]

honestly yeah haha

[errant isle]

and playing with the board

[lofty siren]

New votes in for penn

[proud bison]

not that much

[lofty siren]

Still, 80% for Biden

[proud bison]

I see those percentages go a little bit lower than they were, so yeah Biden will probably pull 40-80k advantage instead of 50-140k

but he is gonna win PA, no problem about that

0.8%

love it

[lofty siren]

Updates on Arizona at 9

[proud bison]

damn thats gonna hurt

[errant isle]

Penn pls come through

[lofty siren]

Lmao

2.5k in Georgia

[proud bison]

lets goooooooo

0.7 PA

[lofty siren]

John King w his math let’s go

[proud bison]

2 days ago we thought we will win arizona and lose GA PA

and now

[lofty siren]

It’s the exact opposite

[proud bison]

we are going to win GA PA and lose AZ

lmaooo

Fox and AP gonna be fucked for calling AZ prematurely lmao

[lofty siren]

Fox will just be like

Losing AZ is fake news

Radical left

[proud bison]

lmaoooooooooooooooooooooooo

radical left wants trump to win

I mean thats not completely untrue

[lofty siren]

Lmao what

[proud bison]

if not immatures in 2016 who didnt go vote for Clinton because they got offended that Sanders is not running, we might have never had Trump as a president lol

[lofty siren]

Lololololio

[proud bison]

literally 75k more people would go voting in 3 key states and Trump would have lost

[lofty siren]

Sigh it’s weird that college students are the most vocal but also they’re the least likely to vote

[proud bison]

exactly

even this year

there were so many people in my university

in freakin Pennsylvania

[lofty siren]

Like what’s ur real interest in politics then

The only way to make a change, u don’t do it

[proud bison]

that were like IM NOT GONNA VOTE FOR BIDEN, IM NOT GONNA HELP KEEP THE STATUS QUO, IT WOULD NOT BE MORAL

I'm like bruh what's wrong with you

and you try to explain them that by not voting they literally vote Trump

[lofty siren]

Like how does not doing anything help

[proud bison]

but that's too abstract for them apparently

[lofty siren]

I think to a certain extent

That’s individualism to the extreme

[proud bison]

exactly

and they are the ones

[lofty siren]

They believe that by not doing anything they make a stand

[proud bison]

that are the most against it

lmao

[lofty siren]

And ppl care abt them making a stand

But nobody gives a shit

U just lose and trump wins

[proud bison]

yeah, even Sanders was telling them they should go and vote Biden

and they are saying shit "I'm not gonna go vote for rapist"

jesus christ

[lofty siren]

I was so disappointed when sanders lost

But like it’s just stupid to not vote for Biden bc of sanders

[proud bison]

yeah lol

I saw some photo posted by some DACA girl scared cuz her privileged American friends were talking about not going to vote, and people under that post were saying that morality will not let them vote Biden

jesus

[lofty siren]

Ugh

I hate them

Like bro

Nobody is satisfied w the status quo

We all know even if Biden wins

We can’t be complacent again and we need to keep fighting

That’s not an excuse for not voting

[proud bison]

exactly

and they say "DONT VOTE SHAME ME" lmao

honestly when I heard what they were talking about I had serious doubts that Trump will be beaten

[lofty siren]

Thank god most ppl came to their sense

Most in a relative sense

I’m worried tho that people will become complacent

And the republicans are gonna sneak in in 2024

[proud bison]

I think now Biden will win literally because people were scared he will lose lmao

[lofty siren]

Lol true

[proud bison]

Clinton lost because everyone thought she will win

[lofty siren]

Yeah

Now we know the strategy for 2024

[proud bison]

Also at my uni, everyone was making fun of Biden all the time

and I'm like bruh

you are literally repeating trump propaganda about biden

like trump got into your minds

you are hating on Biden than on Trump

[lofty siren]

Like what’s there to make fun of Biden

Except he takes trains all the time

[proud bison]

that he is old

[lofty siren]

Which is rlly funny

[proud bison]

that he said if you dont vote for him you aint black and shit

like ye he had his weak moments

but if you care to beat trump

you cannot help spread that shit

[lofty siren]

Yeah

[proud bison]

wdym

[lofty siren]

That was November last year

He slipped

How does that change things

He made clear he would only deport people who committed felonies

[glacial laurel]

biden said a lot of stupid shit that couldve costed him the election

glad that it didnt tho

[lofty siren]

I don’t think he slipped that much

He had to deal w his past opinions and stuff

[proud bison]

trump "slips" every day

[glacial laurel]

true lol

whats scary is how close the election has been despite all of it

[lofty siren]

That’s why I’m worried about 2024

[glacial laurel]

if trump fucked up less

[lofty siren]

If republicans have someone more moderate

[glacial laurel]

he may have won

[lofty siren]

For 2024, it’s game over

Yeah no way trump was gonna lose if not for covid

[proud bison]

whats scary is how close the election has been despite all of it
@glacial laurel Trump really radicalized this country

both to left and right

its very divided

[lofty siren]

And it’s not clear how to reconcile

The news is so different on the two sides

[proud bison]

exactly

[glacial laurel]

government is already polarized as hell too

[proud bison]

people right now are literally thinking democracy in the US is fraud

[lofty siren]

And right leaning media are really honing it in

[proud bison]

this is incomparable to what was 4 years ago

[lofty siren]

Like I completely understand

If I only watch those types of news

I would believe trump

[proud bison]

Obama, Clinton, everyone congratulated him immediately

and now?

they may need to use force to take him out

[lofty siren]

That would be exhilarating to watch tho

Watching trump dragged away from the White House

[proud bison]

in handcuffs lmao

[lofty siren]

Ik

And trump will be shouting lock them up

[proud bison]

lmaoooooooooo

trump has been preparing to lose for months

[lofty siren]

Wait is that it

[proud bison]

propaganda about rigged election

[lofty siren]

The Arizona update

That’s it

?

I think he knew when he fucked up covid

He’s done

[proud bison]

I think there will be 100k more tonight

not sure tho

[lofty siren]

Fffff

[proud bison]

yeah AZ is fucked

I'm just hoping Biden wins PA before loses AZ

[lofty siren]

I think trump supporters will surround the counting office again tho

In AZ

[proud bison]

cuz Trump supporters will be cheering

I think they already did

[lofty siren]

No that will give them false hope

And trump false hope

Which is great

[proud bison]

yes

but then they will be even more angry

[lofty siren]

Cause then they would be crushed again

[proud bison]

they should start getting comfortable with the thought of President Biden

its better they dont get false hopes

cuz there will be rage

[lofty siren]

I rlly don’t think they can

They’ll just plot kidnapping Biden on Facebook messenger lmao

“How do we feel about kidnapping Biden tonight”

[proud bison]

and then get banned by Facebook

and they will be like

230!!!!!

lmao

[lofty siren]

Oh fuck

Georgia

Percentages r equal now

49.4%

[proud bison]

they've been for like 1.5h I think

[lofty siren]

F

I just saw that lmao

So 1.9k votes left

[proud bison]

niiice

42k PA

Philly itself will make it easily

not even mentioning Pittsburg

or Bucks

or Allentown

[lofty siren]

Never have I given so much shit about non-philly Pennsylvania

[proud bison]

yeah lol

[lofty siren]

John King is a democrat right

[proud bison]

I'd suppose so

he works in CNN

https://www.predictit.org/ Pennsylvania now has higher bidding than Michigan Wisconin lmao

[pale karma]

It’s kinda insane how it’s coming down to a few 1000 votes that decide the next president.

[proud bison]

in 2000

it was 500 votes lol

in 2000 year

[pale karma]

Uff democracy does work in the US

Unlike a few countries lol

[proud bison]

but yeah in US unless you live in some California, New York, your vote is incredible important

you can literally determine the election

if you also persuade some friends/family

[lofty siren]

But it would work better if electoral college is reformed

[proud bison]

it's not a lie that every vote matter here

also there is this census thing

so I think the electoral votes will be adjusted? not sure

[lofty siren]

Yeah every 10 years I think?

[proud bison]

ye

census is this year

[lofty siren]

But I mean, if electoral colleges is not winner takes all

[proud bison]

so next election it should be adjusted

[pale karma]

I’m pretty sure Biden’s has this election in his bag, but damn we gotta give it to Trump given how close he brought the election even after the shit that happened in 2020

[gilded patio]

so are we winning georgia?

I dont realy know

[proud bison]

yes Trump is good

[gilded patio]

Biden is still behind

[lofty siren]

Maybe and maybe not

[proud bison]

he is a good manipulator

[lofty siren]

Margin extremely thin

[proud bison]

so are we winning georgia?
@gilded patio probably

[lofty siren]

I have a feeling he’s very stupid but his team is v good

[pale karma]

Yeah exactly

[proud bison]

https://www.predictit.org/ predictit gives georgia almost 90% for Biden

[pale karma]

16,000 ballots left to count and 2500 lead for Trump, pretty sure Biden is winning Georgia

[proud bison]

Trump leads 1900

the most current count

biden probably wins Georgia by a couple of votes

[pale karma]

Are these current votes being counted by Georgia mail in ballots v

?

[proud bison]

all republicans in georgia who didnt go vote, now will be mad at themselves

Are these current votes being counted by Georgia mail in ballots v
@pale karma yes

imagine if biden wins by 100 in Georgia

and then all those republicans who didnt go vote

and their faces

lol

or if Biden loses by 100, all democrats lol

[pale karma]

I think mail in is the only thing that majorly screwed up Trump, I think in-person was strong af for Trump

[proud bison]

yes that was the point of this election

Trump was always discouraging his supporters from mail-in votes

so he may say it was rigged

so 80% of mail-in are dems

[pale karma]

Kinda shocking that ~75% mail in votes are for democrats tho. I don’t think just Trump discouraging ppl can have that much of a difference

I guess republicans are just like that

[proud bison]

I mean yes

it also has to do

with dems being scared of covid

and reps not giving too much shit

(on average obviously)

also the more dems encouraged mail-in because of covid

[pale karma]

Yeah super interesting that these generalisations did actually turn to reality

[proud bison]

probably the more reps were like "fuck you I won't listen to you"

also I think it's more common among republicans to have people that are like "if I don't touch it, I don't believe it"

so they must go everywhere in person etc

they won't believe shit done over internet or mail

that's also why they are more likely not to believe in covid

the most funny thing is how Trump was telling his supporters he will be here for another 12 years lmao

[lofty siren]

Wait what

He said that

?

[proud bison]

and that biden is the worst candidate in the history of the US

and nobody could lose to him

lmao

yes he said that

many times

he said that so many times

that his supporters were chanting

12 more years 12 more years

[lofty siren]

Also did they just say Georgia’s smaller counties won’t count till tomorrow

[proud bison]

he said that after 12 years he will be like "yea I'm tired of this presidency, I may go retire"

lmfao

[lofty siren]

Cause they ran out of staff

What a man

[clear wagon]

Remember that Trump said he is the least racist person in the room when he debated with Biden. I don't believe a single word from him

[lofty siren]

Oh yeah I remember that

“How can I be racist”

[proud bison]

cuz he has done more to black people than anyone since MAYBE abraham lincoln

lmaoooooooo

imagine such a beautiful end for 2020

Trump's loss

or maybe should say its an end to 2020

but 2021 will begin so beautifully

[lofty siren]

It’s such a fitting end to 2020

That trump loses election and goes completely crazy, executive orders a million destructive policies

[proud bison]

and then comes 2021 and everything goes back to normal

[lofty siren]

And then Biden fixes his mess in January 2021

[proud bison]

right after trump leaves

lmao

39k PA

wait sorry

41k

[lofty siren]

1.7k in Georgia

[proud bison]

niiiiiiiiiiiiiiice

it slows in the end

but keeps rolling in the right direction

[lofty siren]

Is it gonna be another day

Where there’s no result

[proud bison]

yeah unless there comes some big news from PA soon

[lofty siren]

I don5 need the result

[proud bison]

I think overnight we should be able to announce PA for biden tho

[lofty siren]

I just need a new call from CNN

That’s not Alaska

[proud bison]

I mean new call from CNN will be the result lmao

cuz we are 1 state away from President Biden

[lofty siren]

Yeah true

Ok even if it’s Alaska

It’s kinda exciting

[proud bison]

haha Biden only needs 59% in the remaining votes in PA

and Philly is still not counted

it's gonna be a big win

[lofty siren]

Why is Alaska red btw

Oil?

[proud bison]

because there are blue collar workers

[lofty siren]

In Alaska?

[proud bison]

who else would there be?

[lofty siren]

Even CNN’s closed captioning is tired of this election now

I guess I just dk who lives in Alaska lmao

[proud bison]

Alaska is like Montana

nobody lives there

thats why there are 3 electoral votes

nobody cares about alaska lmao

btw, fun fact

Reagan won like 48 states

lmao

[lofty siren]

Days are gone

[proud bison]

I really don't know what he did

but the country must have been incredibly united

[lofty siren]

It’s Cold War right

[proud bison]

imagine now flipping California red or flipping Kentucky blue lmao

not sure

[lofty siren]

Lmao I just think there’s such a detachment

Middle America is so different from coastal regions

[proud bison]

its not really about that

its more about rural vs urban

[lofty siren]

Oh yeah that’s what I mean

[proud bison]

you just look at the map of the US by county

it looks like the whole country is red

but then you realize that in those very few blue spots lives majority of people

[lofty siren]

Yeah

[proud bison]

imagine what Trump must feel when he saw 16.5% on election night in PA and now he sees 0.6% and shrinking lmao

[lofty siren]

So he relives what Hillary went thru from poll numbers to election night

[proud bison]

honestly this year was not that much different

polls were fuckin saying Biden may win Texas

thats laughable

[lofty siren]

But Austin is becoming 2nd Silicon Valley

[proud bison]

Gwinnett county in GA stopped counting for today

we may not know GA for tomorrow

Gwinnett is heavily Biden and there are like 30% fo the remaining votes rn

[lofty siren]

Lmao

Penn 0.5%!!

[rocky scroll]

How many votes are remaining in GA?

[proud bison]

but yeah I think we may assume we won GA

How many votes are remaining in GA?
@rocky scroll like 12-16k

Gwinnett has 4.5k

and its going mostly biden from what they say

[rocky scroll]

cool

[lapis wharf]

Clayton county is expected to report 4200 tonight which is heavy Biden

In GA

[proud bison]

okay so we may get GA

but there is also some substantial county heavy for Trump

so it may counter attack Clayton

but then Gwinnett will come and say bye bye trumpie

[lofty siren]

Trump be begging Russian hackers rn

[livid glacier]

pa looks promising too

[lofty siren]

Please I just need 10k votes in Georgia

[proud bison]

pa looks promising too
@livid glacier promising?

we won PA

and it will be by a substantial margin

[lapis wharf]

PA gonna be a landslide in the end 50k+

[proud bison]

yes it's very likely

less than 40k is very unlikely

there is 41k difference now

[livid glacier]

i mean i don't wanna call it before it flips

[proud bison]

more than that will come from Philly alone

[livid glacier]

pa will be nail in the coffin

[proud bison]

and there is 130k votes other than Philly

that should be 70-80% Biden

Biden wins by ~80% in mail-in ballots and he only needs 59% rn among remaining PA votes

37k PA now

[livid glacier]

26k in pa

[proud bison]

26k????????

holy fuck

[proud bison]

then maybe we will actually get Biden called a President tonight

if its already 26k

26k is less than what Georgia was like 5h ago

[livid glacier]

yes

and still hella votes in philly suburbs

[proud bison]

there are 70k votes in Philly

36k Pittsburg

[lapis wharf]

PA not gonna be close

[proud bison]

Bucks gonna be a lot

Delaware

PA not gonna be close
@lapis wharf it won't be close

definitely not close enough for trump to go to the court and win by discarding late-coming ballots

and if we flip Georgia too

then trump has 2 states he would need to fight in the court

and that basically impossible

[lofty siren]

Georgia dismissed trumps case

[proud bison]

yeah but he will be probably trying other dirty tricks

like whatever he is talking about democrats, he is doing that

[lofty siren]

“Why are electoral colleges based on population, they should be based on geographical area”

[proud bison]

wtf lmao

thats the biggest bullshit

0.4% PA

[lapis wharf]

If they are based on geographical areas they will just Gerrymander to favor one way

[proud bison]

nice haha

[lofty siren]

On one hand I hope penn releases results so this would be over

[proud bison]

Biden's granddaughter goes to my school

[lofty siren]

On the other hand, this will be the last we’ll see of John king in the next 4 years

Lmao what

[proud bison]

Biden is also a professor here lmao

[lofty siren]

Like currently? His daughter goes?

[proud bison]

yes

granddaughter

[lofty siren]

Lmmmmmmmao

[proud bison]

but almost nobody knows about it

they keep it secret lol

[lofty siren]

No but

Her last name is Biden

[proud bison]

my friend was in class with her

I think ye

I mean ye

it is

[lofty siren]

That’s so easy to identify

[proud bison]

ye but like she doesnt have social media and shit

like I wouldnt even know

[lofty siren]

Oh ok

[proud bison]

if my friend who was in class with her didnt tell me

teachers are probably required to keep confidentiality too

[lofty siren]

Yeah but imagine the day after Biden wins, she walks into the classroom and everybody just applauds

[proud bison]

not really

cuz it Zoom

lmao

[lofty siren]

Lmao then everybody put up an applaud reaction

[proud bison]

I also felt bad for her

when all those kids here

were roasting biden

and making fun of him

[lofty siren]

Lmao yeah

[proud bison]

and its like her grandpa

and you have a bunch of randoms just roasting him lol

[lofty siren]

That’s probably why she doesn’t have social media

Like if I were related to a public figure

I’m never touching any articles related to them

[proud bison]

I mean one thing that people often say about students at Ivy League is that those who are showing off their fame and wealth are usually not those the most wealthy

[lofty siren]

That’s true

[rocky scroll]

pretty useful site https://alex.github.io/nyt-2020-election-scraper/battleground-state-changes.html

[proud bison]

cuz those who are the most are usually scared about their security or they just want to live a normal life

[lofty siren]

They probably don’t want to attract attention

[proud bison]

yeah

like honestly

every public person

has some people who would like to do harm to them

either its Trump, Fauci, Biden

not only to them

but their family too

@rocky scroll good site

[lofty siren]

Biden better stay at home for the next two months

[proud bison]

Biden now needs 54% to win PA

honestly it's outrageous they didnt call it for him yet

and they called that dumb AZ

[rocky scroll]

@proud bison you're right https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O5ryIztqI5g

[proud bison]

lmao

honestly

one good thing

no trump supporter will try to assasinate Biden

cuz they are scared of Harris 100 times more than Biden lmao

"All remaining 4,200 uncounted mail-in ballots and provisional ballots cast in Clayton County, Georgia, will most likely be released by midnight, the director of the county's board of elections, Shauna Dozier, told CNN tonight. "

looks like we may get the winner tonight

[lofty siren]

I don’t think they’re smart enough to realize Harris would be the president if Biden dies

They’re probably thinking trump will just take his place

[proud bison]

if they are smart enough to successfully assassinate a President, then they definitely are smart enough to realize Harris would be the President

it's not like a dumbass could kill a President lol

[lofty siren]

Lmao they don’t even know 12 years is too long for a person to be president

[proud bison]

Trump was saying that he will change the rules for himself

lmao

Trump is like almost the first dictator of the US

[lofty siren]

Lmao you’re right

[proud bison]

imaging announcing new supreme justice a week before election so she can help you steal the election

wtf

it sounds like some Belarus

[lofty siren]

That's probably just Trump himself

i dont think republicans want her in so trump could be re-elected

[proud bison]

Trump was calling people who did Trump train "very good people"

he fuckin endorses vote suppression

[lofty siren]

smh

alaska is only at 47%

How tf is alaska this slow

[proud bison]

it's ridiculous they didnt call alaska yet

what the fuck do they think

that Biden will win Alaska?

they called AZ

but not Alaska

lmao

[lofty siren]

i think predictors are real scared after arizona

they aren't gonna call shit

[proud bison]

if they not gonna call PA right after Biden flips it

they are ultra dumb

maybe they are scared to be the first to call the president so trump doesnt take an aim on them lmao

[lofty siren]

Imagine fox calls first

[proud bison]

honestly they probably will

[lofty siren]

That will be the hardest blow to trump

“Fox News has changed”

[proud bison]

they already say that

they say that Fox stabbed them

[lofty siren]

Lmao what

Brooooooo

[proud bison]

cuz they show the truth about election

lmao

[lofty siren]

Trump crying right now

[proud bison]

oh

lets see

his twitter

that must be a shitshow

honestly

im the msot excited to kick out stephen miller

I dont even care about trump as much

stephen miller is pure evil

btw

when trump had that speech on election night at 2:30am

and he twitted it

he got shit tone of people saying "I'm not Trump supporter anymore" lmao

[lofty siren]

Stephen Miller just seems evil

Trump looks like a goof

But stephen Miller looks like he’s from the underworld

[proud bison]

yeah lol

[lofty siren]

Lmao now is when those supporters draw the line

Idk what to say

[proud bison]

Stephen Miller said that he hates high skilled immigrants even more than illegals

like bruh

what the actual fuck

what did we do to you

trump post "STOP THE COUNT!" has 666k likes, coincidence? I don't think so, lmao

[rocky scroll]

Stephen miller wants to make new grads impossible to get H1b and remove opt completely

[proud bison]

ye

he would like to remove all H1bs actually

he just hates immigrants

he is an ultimate nationalist

whose ancestors are immigrants

in a country of immigrants

lmfao

Miller is Trump's Goebbels

[lofty siren]

Trump just got a positive in Georgi

[proud bison]

whats the lead

[rocky scroll]

Trump +1,805 now
was +1,775 and hour ago

[proud bison]

lmao