the recruiter told me that on a phone call when I was explaining why I couldn't accept the second offer
#2021_grads
digital carbon
rustic lava
Has anyone interviewed at Sezzle?
full matrix
Has anyone interviewed for the Google Cloud Technical Residency? If so would you be willing to let me know how the process went in a dm and what you'd think the level of difficulty their technical questions were?
stuck hull
Anyone take SIG Codesignal or phone interview for software dev?
tame latch
Depends on the company
worthy spear
Pwc
tame latch
Try searching up a range
I think it’s ok?
Seattle has no income tax
And rent is arround 1500
At worst you job hop in a year
And Seattle is a good tech job
hub
After tax on 75k is 60k. After rent it’s going to be arround 45k
So I think it’s fine.
unkempt echo
yeah you'll have about ~$4900 per month after taxes and stuff in seattle with 75k
can definitely do 401k, insurance, transportation cost and rent out of that
and still have about like ~2700/mo or so to save or spend at your leisure
assuming $75k is all salary
worthy spear
Ooh ok! Thanks!
undone abyss
anyone know what to expect for bny phone? this is for ripplematch post oa!
foggy ravine
can someone help me decide between offers 😭
tired bay
What offers u got?
foggy ravine
charles schwab and rapid7
charles schwab pays like 3k more but im scared of like a more uptight corporate culture and more older ppl than younger ppl
and rapid7 is a small cybersecurity company, but i'd be scared of work being too fast paced since they're smaller? and bad work life balance, but maybe better culture and ppl
hybrid folio
Anyone that’s a new grad, are you leaving school early in your last semester to go to FT? Like attempting to do your classes online and just going FT wherever your new grad opportunity is?
tired bay
You gotta have degree to start @hybrid folio
hybrid folio
Damn 
tired bay
@foggy ravine Does security interest you cause that’s pretty niche?
hybrid folio
Even if its a return offer?
I have six credit hours my last semester of senior year I have to take, and I would much rather leave campus and start working early instead of staying on campus and not doing anything
tired bay
Yes most offers contingent upon receiving degree but could always ask
hybrid folio
Hmm okay. Thanks!
foggy ravine
@foggy ravine Does security interest you cause that’s pretty niche?
@tired bay i dont have a strong preference for either field, idk which would be better
but i just think of a finance company as uptight corporate ppl, and idk if i like that
solemn epoch
anyone did their final intv for vmware launch back in sept and still waiting for team matching? lmao
hybrid folio
Ask them about company culture, work dress code?
tired bay
@solemn epoch Lmao I was but I signed end of October elsewhere
solemn epoch
@solemn epoch Lmao I was but I signed end of October elsewhere
@tired bay oh where? if u dont mind
tired bay
Amazon
solemn epoch
ahh congrats
i thought vmware was gonna be a safety net for me back then but now its my only hope
lmfao
tired bay
@foggy ravine Charles Schwab probs broader experience but at a smaller company can learn a lot even if it is security focused. Really comes down to location, work you wanna do, and if you don’t see yourself at these companies long term then what’s gonna make you better for next job
@solemn epoch Lol yeah so many people just waiting in limbo with them 😐
solemn epoch
@solemn epoch Lol yeah so many people just waiting in limbo with them 😐
@tired bay were you in the presentation they did after the final intv of what "life in vmware is like"
i still dont understand what the point of that was
tired bay
I watched recording they value culture they want to entice people that way
cerulean pivot
im starting uber in january and finishing my last semester of school in spring
tired bay
Interesting 🧐
cerulean pivot
i think the normal is waht u said though
hybrid folio
Maybe JPMC will be nice and let me do it too
solemn epoch
wait you did yours in sept? mine was in oct
@zinc bramble yep mid sept lmfao
zinc bramble
have you kept in contact with nick?
undone abyss
any idea what should i expect for an apple 30min codepad? This is for sdet. I just have no idea if it will be swift/testing related or more dsa
cerulean pivot
different teams do different stuff so its unlikely anyone will know unless they interviewed for the same team
tiny wedge
roblox didnt come thru over the weekend , boutta sign somewhere else
iron gate
:///
tiny oak
@still forge jpmc i think is having a training for all 2021 full time program at same time so i doubt you could start early
i'm in same boat i have 6 credit hours left all online i'm just gonna get a part time
become the new alex from target
dry walrus
Anybody completed phone interview with OCI lately?
latent cipher
@dry walrus i did a few weeks ago for IC1 (bachelors new grad)
tiny wedge
how it feels to finally sign
tiny wedge
sad thing is i’ve still been doing lc but a lot less volume per day 😅
u can really tell where the interviews ended 😂
tight marlin
770, holy shit
iron gate
damn bro
narrow patrol
what the fuck
iron gate
not gonna lie i got to 100 lc problems and called it a year
tight marlin
there's only like 1200 lc problems total
narrow patrol
I’ve done like 12 ;-;
tight marlin
lmao same, got super fortunate to get some offers once I hit 100
still haven't ever solved a hard
iron gate
once you solve all 1200 leetcode problems, you finally get the free bananas at amazon
tight marlin
what was the highest amount of problems you did in a day, that's 5k submissions spread across 6 months I can't even imagine how many you solved even on a slower day
tiny wedge
@tight marlin theres 1600 now
lmao i spammed the accepted ones to boost my acceptance rate
tight marlin
looool fair, I give my ~25% accepted a dirty look
aren't a lot of the newer questions SQL-based/not traditional interview questions?
tiny wedge
yeah those are super easy ones to boost your count
blissful adder
@tiny wedge whered you sign?
blissful adder
whic loc?
tiny wedge
seattle!
peak dirge
That's a perfect reference lmao @tiny wedge I just watched that arc last week. And congrats on the offer!
tiny wedge
good SWEs follow orders
blissful adder
Super cool man congrats!
tiny wedge
thanks!
brisk lotus
im not new grad but i have question:
When is the best time to apply for new grad for faang/big n?
^is it the same timeline as intern?
vagrant raptor
pretty much bear
brisk lotus
So if someone graduates june of 2021, they should have started applying back in august?
vagrant raptor
yeah
but this year is a little weird in how the big n's are hiring
some are frozen for new grads
this year just a little funky 😦
brisk lotus
some are frozen for new grads
@vagrant raptor what do you mean by frozen?
but this year is a little weird in how the big n's are hiring
@vagrant raptor What is different about it ?
vagrant raptor
like they aren't hiring new grads directly this year or not as of now
amazon waitlist started in early november 😳
last year it started in jan...
brisk lotus
bruh thats so tough
what options to people without a return offer have for big n/faang then?
atomic pivot
Waiting
vagrant raptor
just apply and pray
atomic pivot
Or getting lucky from a recruiter
vagrant raptor
maybe they'll up hiring at some later point
vagrant raptor
amazon waitlist ☹️
crude pivot
atomic pivot
tbh it has opened me up to smaller companies that do cool stuff
faang isn’t the end all be all
vagrant raptor
thats true, you can apply to local companies 🙂
just find a company to work with and get some experience and then apply to big n later if you need big n
atomic pivot
Ya pretty much. Maybe you do more sys design for those interviews I think
bleak mica
Has anyone taken Microsoft's Codility OA (the 80min one)? What difficulty can I expect and any further tips maybe? :)
grand tinsel
Hi, has anybody made it to the final round for the Bloomberg SWE role and gotten an offer? I have the final rounds with the recruiter and engineering manager back to back tomorrow and was wondering if I could get some advice about what they are like. Thanks!
arctic drift
I had a LC easy for my eng manager round
haven't gotten back to me yet though (~ a week)
worthy spear
I was asked if I wanted to live in Tucson, Arizona. Any opinions about the living situation there?
ebon belfry
what company? @worthy spear
worthy spear
Raytheon
ebon belfry
my friend says it looks cheap there pretty good COL
he also got Raytheon offer
but it depends on what other cities lol
noble crag
Has anyone ever been ghosted after an on-site?
grand tinsel
I had a LC easy for my eng manager round
@arctic drift Was this for bloomberg? Did they give you a timeline regarding when they would get back to you?
vagrant raptor
which company @noble crag
worthy spear
@ebon belfry unfortunately, it's only at tucson...I can ask or see if there are any other locations
noble crag
Just theoretically
vagrant raptor
yeah its possible, heard plenty of people ghosted before
if the HR department is that evil 😦
noble crag
Yikes
ebon belfry
@worthy spear i mean it sounds like most of the positions are there. if u have any other offers u can just say no or just say yes and dont sign if u get better
worthy spear
True that. Lol don't have any other offers and they just asked me if I'm interested in that position in that specific location
@ebon belfry what did your friend mean by it looks cheap?
narrow patrol
How do you share in #new_grad_salary_sharing
cerulean pivot
How do you share in #new_grad_salary_sharing
@narrow patrol dm @feral marten!salary new grad
narrow patrol
Thanks ^
low quartz
Hi, has anyone interviewed with WePay or made it to the final round? I have my final round interviews soon and was hoping to get some advice. Thanks!
vagrant raptor
@cerulean pivot is the #new_grad_salary_sharing correct? For the latest one for Everquote it doesn't add the equity correctly..
cerulean pivot
feel free to resubmit @narrow patrol :)
narrow patrol
@cerulean pivot is the #new_grad_salary_sharing correct? For the latest one for Everquote it doesn't add the equity correctly..
@vagrant raptor did the Brex one do it correctly? This is all new to me tbh and wanna make sure I get it right before resubmitting
pulsar portal
narrow patrol
153 + 17/4 != 170 😦
@vagrant raptor oh I see so it would be like 157250 first year?
vagrant raptor
if you're getting 17k over 4 years yes
arctic drift
@arctic drift Was this for bloomberg? Did they give you a timeline regarding when they would get back to you?
@grand tinsel they said around a week but still nothign so lol
grand tinsel
Gotcha, thanks!
blissful adder
has anyone gotten a bit manipulation question in any interview process this year?
vital granite
yeah I did, caught me off guard since it was from Walmart's code assessment of all things lmao
which, they never touched base with me ever since september even though I got in with a recruiter LMAO. that's how it be sometimes. I got ghosted so much. I appreciate the companies that keep me updated on status, rejection or not.
vocal carbon
Did anyone here apply for Tiktok using a referral?
I can't seem to find any newgrad positions when going through the referral link lol
arctic drift
i don't think you need a referral
some person on linkedin that's a recruiter for tiktok was like
"yeah everyone's getting a hackerrank this year"
If I find the linkedin post again I'll screenshot and throw it up here
grand delta
has anyone does BNY codepair? what can i expect
solemn epoch
is there any way to negotiate without competing offers
kind bough
@solemn epoch you could say you're considering grad school as your alternative to accepting
arctic drift
make up an offer /s
quick panther
just say you have a pending offer lol
worthy cedar
is this jpm offer in #new_grad_salary_sharing real
i knew the pay wasn't great but that's an insulting offer
turbid lintel
Yeah it’s real 😅
worthy spear
Wait...what is a good offer? I've been saying that I want like 75k-80k this whole time 🥲
worthy cedar
sorry i wasn't trying to put anyone down or make them feel bad. it's just that they have a pretty lengthy application process so you have to jump through a bunch of loops/steps and they're a successful and large company (albeit an ibank and not a tech company)
so for them to offer that while being incredibly successful within their own market (even though a swe offer is for their "back office" and not like an ibanking role) is what i meant by insulting
worthy spear
Oooh no it's okay! I just didn't know what was considered a "good" offer 😅 I've been asking for certain salaries based on glassdoor
worthy cedar
since swes are incredibly incredibly important for their service despite not being "front office"
tired bay
I mean for FL 80k entry level SWE is pretty great tbh not gonna find much better in the state
ebon belfry
these financial companies do not pay as well as pure tech tho
worthy cedar
i don't like to use glassdoor very often since it seems really inaccurate and often merges old data with new
@worthy spear you're probably aware of this but levels.fyi is a good resource for up to date swe roles and level
if the company hires a lot and and typically has a standardized offer
full shore
tired bay
Like a lot of FL tech is defense and banks so most offers gonna be in the 60-70s tbh
wary basin
Did anyone interview with Lutron Electronics?
worthy spear
@worthy cedar ooh I don't use that because it's more to do with swe and most of the positions I applied to is security related lol
I just see what the average is and ask for something a bit higher or make that average as my minimum.
teal oasis
Has anyone interviewed with NCR for new grad software engineering? If yes, can you please share what the interview focused on?
vocal carbon
Lol is there any way to not send a codesignal to the company after taking it? 😛
dry walrus
Has anyone here completed the phone interview with OCI (Oracle Cloud Infrastructure ) team?
honest ruin
Anyone gone through the 30 min phone call w Microsoft for new grad program manager? What can I expect?
fringe kelp
Does anyone know if the Amazon OAs for interns and new grads are the same? I did the OA for the internship in the past, but this time I applied for the new grad position. Thanks!
wind acorn
the OA this year seemed harder to me @fringe kelp
fringe kelp
@wind acorn oh was it for the new grad position? Was it still 3 OAs (debugging, 2 problems, SDE 1 simulation)?
wind acorn
yep!
fringe kelp
ok thanks!
tired bay
They only differ in the 2 LC
fringe kelp
oh so the 2 problems in the second OA right? Would practicing LC medium be sufficient?
tired bay
I had easy and a hard this year for second OA. Amazon tends to lean more towards graph stuff
zinc cypress
if anyone here has done the Doordash final do you mind DMing me? thanks!
fringe kelp
@farmer balakay ok thanks!
tight marlin
@worthy spear I've reached out to like 5-6 recruiters for big companies (even had some mutual connections with some) and was ghosted by all, gained like 2-3 new connections through the process though
glossy orchid
Anyone got Walmart recommend for offer email? This is for Full time swe
tight marlin
I'd still give it a shot! Who knows, all you need is one response to turn things around
tight marlin
nice, I hope things go well!
atomic pivot
ayo why tigergraph oa so damn long
candid dagger
I see offers and processes right, left and center in #2021_grad_process . I have a very decent profile with experience and internships. I am mostly getting rejects. Would there by some problem with my resume or my school (not a top school)? I would be grateful if someone can help me
brazen goblet
How long did it take to get response after OA3 completion? reject or final interview for Canada New Grad
OA3 was 3x easier this year than last year
and OA1 was 2x harder
OA2 was the same
wraith basin
!salary duolingo
feral martenBOT
Unable to locate data on Duolingo
lucid pagoda
I see offers and processes right, left and center in #2021_grad_process . I have a very decent profile with experience and internships. I am mostly getting rejects. Would there by some problem with my resume or my school (not a top school)? I would be grateful if someone can help me
@candid dagger I'm not sure it's your school. I'm at a no-name liberal arts school with like 1200 students and I know kids with offers, including myself. Not at FAANG but offers nonetheless. It may be your resume not getting past the parsers.
candid dagger
@lucid pagoda can I dm you to discuss in more detail? I will be glad if you can help me with a quick review
lucid pagoda
@candid dagger fa sho
rocky spoke
anyone got any quick refresher resources on OOP fundamentals?
signal dove
I see offers and processes right, left and center in #2021_grad_process . I have a very decent profile with experience and internships. I am mostly getting rejects. Would there by some problem with my resume or my school (not a top school)? I would be grateful if someone can help me
@candid dagger I'm also at a no-name school and I know a couple people with offers from FAANG's or equivalents
I don't think the school matters tbh
subtle field
Does anyone know how the 1 technical 1 behavioural final interview is for JP Morgan?
spice belfry
does anyone know if drw codility is mass spammed? or after resume screen
bronze canopy
Does anyone know how the 1 technical 1 behavioural final interview is for JP Morgan?
@subtle field high level questions about OOP / Java / short algorithm talk through. Behavioral was super standard just asking about projects / obstacles within group work / etc. behavioral went 30 minutes shorter than they said it would ¯_(ツ)_/¯
subtle field
@bronze canopy Okay sounds good. Didn't know if I was to expect a LC style interview or trivia questions. Thanks 😄
bronze canopy
More trivia
digital carbon
anyone know conversion rates for bloomberg intern -> full time?
@tranquil gorge very high, like 80-90%
mortal summit
anyone do seatgeek final round?
fringe kelp
Does anyone know how likely it is for Canadians to get offers in the US?
arctic drift
It’s probably harder if you’re not from Waterloo but I mean there ARE Canadians with offers in the US
nova gyro
you can work in the US on a TN visa, it is very common and all big tech companies will do it
vocal carbon
I go to Waterloo, and my only CS/SE friends who are not moving to the US for full time are non canadians/people who really want to not be away from their fam
bold gull
@subtle field mine wasn't really trivia at all. it was a leetcode without coding then just a convo about stuff in tech. I guess it differs by interviewer
fringe kelp
@nova gyro so do you think it's ok to say yes for the "are you authorized to work in the US" question? I feel like I'm getting auto rejected because I'm saying no for that question
subtle field
@bold gull What location was yours for?
bold gull
NY/NJ
subtle field
Ok then i'll just prepare myself for either option. My final interview is next week anyway
For a UK location though
subtle field
Hopefully it will go well then 😄
stuck hull
Anyone have any recommendations to get over the hump of fully solving the 4th question on codesignal OA? Usually I time out on the 4th question. I've noticed that some of them are DP, any other topics to study?
fringe kelp
@nh oh I go to University of Toronto and I know some people who got US offers but I think most of them are just staying in Canada
fringe kelp
yeah me too
shrewd blade
Does anyone have any good resources for salary negotiating?
heady garnet
I think the usual one that gets passed around is https://haseebq.com/my-ten-rules-for-negotiating-a-job-offer/
orchid ibex
Whose still waiting for roblox?
unkempt echo
Does anyone know if getting a FT offer from Google (new grad) would increase your odds of getting a FT offer in the future?
fringe kelp
is it ok for Canadians to say yes for the "are you authorized to work in the US" question? I feel like I'm getting auto rejected because I'm picking no
honest knoll
I always say yes, and then yes again for the second question that asks "do you require sponsorship"
fringe kelp
@honest knoll ok thanks!
honest knoll
np
iron gate
@orchid ibex they told me they'd try to get back to me by EOD tomorrow
so hoping they're giving good news to people throughout the week
supple fjord
that matches up w what the interviewer told me too ^
orchid ibex
@supple fjord what did they say to you
supple fjord
my interviewer randomly told me that i would hear back this week around weds-thurs latest friday
orchid ibex
when did u interview
orchid ibex
interviewed oct 21 😢
sharp lichen
roblox responding in a reasonable time 
supple fjord
oh yikes that was so long ago
orchid ibex
yeah im losing patience
supple fjord
good luck to everyone q-q im so nervous/impatient rn i cant imagine how yall feel
fjewaiofjwaoe
orchid ibex
but turns out they are just very unorganized
supple fjord
yeah im sure their team is just super overwhelmed
the guy told me that they onboarded a lot of recruiters lately and he hasnt even gotten to meet anyone yet
sucks but im sure theyre trying their best
orchid ibex
I think they try and match make you first
supple fjord
yeah i appreciated being able to talk to my hm
orchid ibex
and the HM has to make the decision but hes prob always busy
sharp lichen
maybe they shouldve started interviewing people when their recruiters were ready
orchid ibex
i dont think its the recruiters
supple fjord
yeah hindsight is always 20/20
supple fjord
ya my hm looked really tired i felt so bad for him
orchid ibex
And i feel like recruiters wont nag the HM
supple fjord
yeah they prolly also have to wait for all the interviews to end before they make a decision too
like for that specific team
silver owl
I always say yes, and then yes again for the second question that asks "do you require sponsorship"
@honest knoll I'll often put "not authorized" and "no sponsorship required" if it's a smaller company
TN doesn't technically require a company to explicitly sponsor, only an offer
tiny wedge
roblox is a game company, they should crunch for us
honest knoll
most of my friends just say yes to both questions, so I think it doesn't really matter. They will confirm with you later anyways
rocky spoke
i just got asked recursive fibonacci for my OCI onsite lol
blissful adder
lmao
wind acorn
b r u h
wind acorn
meanwhile i got OS and multithreading questions in one of my onsites fml
iron gate
goddamn
mental frigate
@wind acorn OCI?
cerulean pivot
yea interviewing is RNG
wind acorn
@mental frigate nah nah was just poking fun at how random interviews are sometimes (those Qs were asked at a BigN)
fringe kelp
are they doing online interviews this year or is it still onsite?
rocky spoke
honestly i brain farted for a second cos it's been forever since ive done recursive fib
honest ruin
thoughts on making up an offer to force a company to expedite their process?
ornate charm
question guys: would you rather pick SAP or Cisco? Pay is relatively similar but cisco is about a 2.5 hour commute daily while SAP is 10 min away.
daring crypt
could totally backfire and leave you with no offer. don't do it unless you actually have an offer or are okay with not getting one.
latent cipher
omg @rocky spoke that was one of the questions i got at morgan stanley last year
but I actually did get a threading/concurrency q at OCI lol
ocean geode
question guys: would you rather pick SAP or Cisco? Pay is relatively similar but cisco is about a 2.5 hour commute daily while SAP is 10 min away.
@ornate charm Cisco more clout tho
latent cipher
@ornate charm personally would take SAP just bc a 2.5 hour commute (in total right? not each way?) is killer. unless you could move w/o spending a ton.
loud anchor
dude a 2.5 hour commute will never be worth it
that's ridiculous
you will hate your life
rocky spoke
why cant you live closer to cisco?
loud anchor
hey crypto you hear back from pltr?
vagrant raptor
I don't think the clout between Cisco and SAP is that substantial, I'd pick SAP purely on the commute
rocky spoke
yes got rejected @loud anchor
rocky spoke
they were kind enough to schedule a call to give feedback. i flunked the decomp it lokos like
loud anchor
sys design is cancer
rocky spoke
i would even call it system design. the decomp felt more like a consulting interview
ornate charm
No like Cisco is an hour away and an hour and half on way back it’s so brutal
While sap would be 10 min away
Idk man it’s hard to pick
blissful adder
@ornate charm I could be wrong but I also feel like the range of projects might be more interesting at SAP
torpid jackal
how many times have y'all been asked about your gpa? does it seem to be a huge factor?
vagrant raptor
basically never
except if you're applying to some trading firm or something like that
torpid jackal
I'm peak burned out rn and can choose CR/NC or graded, I could bump my 2.9 GPA up like a hundredth of a percent if I grind this week but it doesn't feel worth it lol
but CR/NC feels like a cop out and I'm so close to breaking that 3.0 line
tame latch
Take a day off to recoup
You got this
It’s worth it
Because companies auto filter at 3.0 so it’s definitely worth it
Just make a day for yourself
vagrant raptor
You could just not include your GPA as well if it isn't above a 3.0, its not a big deal 🙂
torpid jackal
yeah I don't have it on my resume
OCI hasn't asked yet but I'm going into final round next week so they might idk
vagrant raptor
good luck with that interview 🙂
arctic drift
i've seen "worse" companies ask for gpa/transcript
but like the "better" ones have never asked me
LOL
except maybe like google and quant firms
torpid jackal
thanks :) it's my first serious interview process so every time I get good news I'm kind of taken aback
@arctic drift like after extending an offer or in an application?
arctic drift
Bloomberg/Roblox haven't asked me in both offer/application
torpid jackal
I feel like if you make it to an offer GPA doesn't really matter at that point..... no?
arctic drift
A decent amount of trading firms care
and Google asks for transcript but idk why
but like Publicis Sapient and Epic Systems asked me for transcripts iirc
vocal carbon
i think google asks for a letter explaining why u have low gpa even after offer?
might be wrong
arctic drift
Honestly I wouldn't worry too much about gpa/transcript
Worst case they reject you but not much you can do at that point anyways
torpid jackal
big imposter syndrome energy so I'm not expecting to talk to google or apple or anything ..... highkey surprised I've made it this far with OCI
lmao yeah it's not like you get your GPA tattooed on your arm
arctic drift
They're filtering out thousands of candidates dw about impostor syndrome
You're good bro
vocal carbon
Morgan stanley asked me for transcript but didnt really care
torpid jackal
huh I though financial institutions had some legal bullshit they had to abide by like they can't hire sub-3.0 or smth
vocal carbon
oh man im on final w a trading company, would be big sad if they ask for gpa now
torpid jackal
I could be wrong, someone at a career fair or smth told me that but maybe they just wanted me to go away lmao
or it was application screening
I really doubt they'd let you get this far/waste that much time if they could find smth like that where they had to reject you
vocal carbon
I have had an internship offer from a trading firm before and they didnt ask for a gpa or anything at any point
so it's not like they HAVE to do it
torpid jackal
lit, maybe it was just that company? idk don't listen to me haha
sounds like I'm gonna take that class CR/NC and stop stressing tho
vocal carbon
lol I think I'm in the same boat as you, could grind to get to 3.0, or could just coast as this is the last term and I think i'm passing everything rn
torpid jackal
yeah I still have 2 more quarters + this one so theoretically I could get up to a 3.0 but covid burnout
uneven pasture
@orchid ibex went and emailed roblox like 5 times before they responded
they literally sent
Hi chinatiger,
Thank you for your email, we will do our best to have any update for you as soon as possible. We appreciate the continued patience and flexibility.
Best,
Recruiter First Initial
arctic drift
wth
uneven pasture
i had my final round like 17 days ago lmao
arctic drift
wait my email was completely different from yours
torpid jackal
wow that's fucked, do you have other offers on the table?
uneven pasture
yeah thankfully bloomberg pushed deadline back to 12/1, but are you kidding me?
3 weeks for a decision after final round?
arctic drift
Hi Farmer Billy,
Thanks for your email.
We are in the process of getting a decision for you and hope to have an update for you very very soon. Thank you for your pateince.
Best,
Roblox
that was mine
when I emailed saying I had a deadline
lol
uneven pasture
probably just different hiring managers or something
did you have bar raiser interview?
arctic drift
yeah
torpid jackal
were these direct emails to recruiters or smth?
arctic drift
I emailed that to the generic roblox thing
uneven pasture
i emailed the generic roblox thing and the recruiter directly
the generic roblox one didn't respond to my email 5 days ago
neither did the recruiter over like 5 emails spread out over like 1.5-2 weeks
so lmao
uneven pasture
like at this point i dont care if i get an offer or not, i just want to know
torpid jackal
yeah really
uneven pasture
like ghosting after first round, whatever
i understand that
after you've invested like 6 hours into me though?
: \
torpid jackal
dick move
like to blow you off but also to effectively waste their employees time ngl
arctic drift
Their recruiting team is 3 people
I'm sure they're trying the best they can
though yeah it's pretty frustrating
uneven pasture
yeah, i understand their recruiting team is small, just sucks that my timelines/deadlines/negotiation process is very much so limited by them
rather than me controlling some of it
torpid jackal
ah, 3 people changes things a little, but I still think they should've reached out if only to say "hey we haven't forgotten about you, hang tight"
supple fjord
yeah that would be ideal, but I'm sure everyone's emailing them right now so things get lost
def hard to stay patient but hopefully good news will come
vagrant raptor
i will never get over how THICC roblox player models are
sharp lichen
wait i have a theory
so right now, roblox sent out or is in the process of sending out offers
and depending on how those people respond, if they decline it, theyll extend it onto the next people in line
similar to amazon waitlist
but like 10x slower
atomic badge
@uneven pasture how long did Bloomberg initially give you to make a decision? And how much of an extension did they give now?
worthy spear
Has anyone negotiated their salary and the recruiter was like nope I take back the offer? 😂Literally had a nightmare last night about that 😃
Like does that actually happen?
honest knoll
they're super unprofessional if they do that lol
and depending on how those people respond, if they decline it, theyll extend it onto the next people in line
@sharp lichen yeah I was thinking this too. they clearly interviewed way more people in the final round than they can actually handle...so now do we have to wait for people to reject roblox to get our potential offers? tf...
digital carbon
Has anyone negotiated their salary and the recruiter was like nope I take back the offer? 😂Literally had a nightmare last night about that 😃
@worthy spear extremely rare but I have heard of it happening anecdotally
realistically, that would only happen if you try to negotiate like a ridiculous amount that the company definitely can't match
and then they get offended
urban hemlock
SQL questions on twitter phone... RIP
don remember that shit
Yeah like LC but for sql queries
vagrant raptor
lmao, i dont even know SQL 🙃
digital carbon
were they complicated queries?
vagrant raptor
that sucks dude 😦
digital carbon
I was asked SQL for audible last year but it was relatively simple stuff
urban hemlock
Idrk how complicated bc I remember so little, but I did need group bys and nested queries
prob simple if you work with sql a good amount
All i remember is SELECT * FROM USERS
;
honest knoll
theory: roblox prob doesn't care about our deadlines cause its easier for them to cut down more people that way lol
copper fractal
I only remember the basic ones. Im sure that there is like a generator for complex sql queries that make the statements for you
vocal carbon
Does anyone have a good resource to quickly go over data structures/algos?
glossy shoal
yoo guys did anyone take the amazon new grad final interview with 3 rounds? Was the leetcode high freq list helpful or is it just random questions?
empty palm
Did any of you smart people with offers have to do a drug test? Lool
tawdry herald
Thoughts on Amazon Boston vs. Bloomberg?
subtle field
Bloomberg should have higher TC
mortal summit
what are the opinions here on nyc vs sf? given median comp for both places
tiny wedge
holy shit someone on linkedin landed 3 internships at fb, snap, and goog
twilit fiber
what are the opinions here on nyc vs sf? given median comp for both places
@mortal summit nyc ftw
I’m biased
mortal summit
any particular reason?
twilit fiber
Fast transport, lots of parks and recreational sports
I’m biased
@twilit fiber I go to school in nyc
ruby crow
@twilit fiber where would you recommend living for someone moving from west coast -> nyc
@empty palm i know BNY + vanguard drug tests
blissful adder
^good to know
ruby crow
most likely all banking companies care
not sure if that includes ones like citadel/jane street/etc
empty palm
Will probably get rejected by them anyway lol
ruby crow
mood
twilit fiber
@twilit fiber where would you recommend living for someone moving from west coast -> nyc
@ruby crow upper west side. Near 100-116th st Cheaper rent, academic area , surrounded by 3 public parks including Central Park
ruby crow
beautiful ty so much
I saw some beautiful apartments there for not too bad
trying not to get my hopes up with covid dropping rent tho
twilit fiber
Glad to help
blissful adder
anyone else apply to pinterest when they first opened and still not heard back?
wind acorn
@twilit fiber you da real mvp
fringe kelp
@blissful adder I applied early October and still haven't heard back
fringe kelp
yeah they said that for me too
tiny wedge
i applied mid october and completely got ghosted
fringe kelp
do they send rejection emails?
latent cipher
I applied 9/14 and haven’t heard back
rocky spoke
Well
I had my OCI on-site and half a day later they told me I passed
Other recruiters should learn from them !
wind acorn
congrats @rocky spoke !!!
rocky spoke
Thanks
mortal summit
going to have my first and likely only onsite of the season on tuesday next week, any tips?
tiny wedge
@mortal summit where at?
tiny wedge
idk anything about sys design but the leetcode list is pretty helpful for warm ups
i did the !problem --company a few days before and literally got something from the list for my final
ruby crow
so I had 2 system designs with cockroach @mortal summit and they went p well
blissful adder
if you peruse the github system design primer it helps you get your footing on the topic
ruby crow
before you start, make sure you say "hey, if i go off in a direction that doesn't answer your question, don't hesitate to interrupt"
tiny wedge
ive heard grokking the sys design interview is good
mortal summit
if you peruse the github system design primer it helps you get your footing on the topic
@blissful adder yeah this has been suggested so it's defo on my list
tiny wedge
cant confirm but grokking the coding interview is 10/10
ruby crow
it helped a lot since I would get a little off track sometimes and they didn't mind saying "focus on this instead"
mortal summit
it helped a lot since I would get a little off track sometimes and they didn't mind saying "focus on this instead"
@ruby crow good call out, ty
ruby crow
yeah in my offer feedback they liked that i was receptive
but it was a way better deal for me LMAO since you never know exactly what they want to hear since it's so abstract
mortal summit
ye definitely
mortal temple
I think it's really helpful to think of system design interviews as discussions that you're in charge of leading. They're aren't any "right answers" so it leaves a lot more room for collaboration
ruby crow
^^
mortal summit
got it
ruby crow
you'll do great bb
mortal summit
tyty <3333
ruby crow
report back how it went
mortal summit
will do
mortal temple
gl man
mortal summit
thanks bruh
blissful adder
you got this @mortal summit !!!
vagrant raptor
@mortal summit u have charizard on ur side, you're gonna do great buddy
mortal summit
@mortal summit u have charizard on ur side, you're gonna do great buddy
@vagrant raptor the only thing that matters for realll
stone monolith
Anyone interviewed at Tiktok for new grad
Just got an invitation to apply on Handshake
bronze crane
Anyone else still ghosted by roblox after virtual onsite
I'm definitely just waiting for the official reject at this point but I'd like some closure
vagrant raptor
closure costs 300 robux unfortunately
honest knoll
@bronze crane virtual onsite or final round? Lol idk why they have to name them like that
wind acorn
i swear like 99% of people here have been ghosted by roblox at all stages of the process smh
what's worse is that if you email their university.recruiting email they respond weeks later with "oh yeah we'll get back to you in a few weeks"
honest knoll
Haha 😂😭
bronze crane
@honest knoll virtual onsite, never got final
honest knoll
I think last week was their final round of final rounds if I'm not mistaken 😦
bronze crane
I gave up hope for them like 3 weeks ago anyway 😅
honest knoll
they need to hurry the f up 😦
tiny wedge
maybe if i buy the 10k robux bundle they'll come thru
tc = 144k base salary with 800k robux/4 years
worthy spear
anyone get the weird 30min Microsoft recruiter screen where they ask you a bunch of behavioural and simple tech questions? what happens after?
she told me to wait 3-5 weeks for the follow-up, so I'm hoping I'm moved forward or could i still be rejected?
acoustic mural
she told me to wait 3-5 weeks for the follow-up, so I'm hoping I'm moved forward or could i still be rejected?
@worthy spear That's the phone screen (except mine was with an engineer). If you pass, you move to the final round. I heard back from my phone screen roughly 2 weeks after
acoustic venture
What do you all do to get referrals to companies before you apply? And how beneficial is a referral from someone random whom you reached out to just to kinda get the referral?
rocky spoke
You obviously want a referral from someone you know who can write a good meaning blurb for you. Bonus points if they're someone who's highly ranked and not just some fresh new grad. But at the end of the day, referral is better than no referral.
royal hearth
Does anyone have email to an Apple recruiter? I wish to expedite my application
noble crag
Is Revature a scam
wraith basin
!salary square
feral martenBOT
cursive loom
!salary twitch
feral martenBOT
acoustic venture
You obviously want a referral from someone you know who can write a good meaning blurb for you. Bonus points if they're someone who's highly ranked and not just some fresh new grad. But at the end of the day, referral is better than no referral.
@rocky spoke Right. I agree with your point that a referral from someone you know is ideal but I wasn't sure if a random referral was useful in any way. Any tips on getting random referrals? All my internships have been in companies outside of the US so I don't really have many contacts in the industry as such
strange moth
random referral better than nothing
at companies where the process is heavily automated, basically means you auto get into interview process
unless ur resume doesn't meet the bar
digital carbon
Is Revature a scam
@noble crag yes it is
honest knoll
so I got rejected by msft a while back and my application is still under active application in the action center, what does this mean?
karmic saddle
Anyone interviewed with TikTok for FrontEnd Engineer new grad position?
noble crag
@karmic saddle They're sending assessment invites starting on the 20th
karmic saddle
Oh I already have my 1st interview setup on 24th
karmic saddle
I reached out to an engineering manager 2 months ago on Linkedin
high thunder
epic
karmic saddle
I've been doing Bytedance leetcode questions from leetcode-bot and some stuff that I found online
Anything else I should focus on?
bold gull
@noble crag when I went to their info session I thought it was kinda like a scam but no idea
rocky spoke
How long after applying did u gets receive an OA for tiktok?
Also, is there a way to add a referral code after you submitted your app?
I stupidly rushed out my applicatioon before my friend finally responded with a referral
vocal carbon
Wow tiktok's careers site really has a good parser
patent cloak
Even their application page is very clean
vocal carbon
I have an ex coworker/friend who works there now, says its the best job he has had
Would have never thought that
stone monolith
Damn I already signed my new grad offer but I might just see what I can get out of Tiktok
No harm in trying
sturdy otter
has anyone gotten and negotiated a JPMorgan offer?
orchid ibex
Roblox said they should be getting back to people today. Has anyone head back?
iron gate
not yet
sly saffron
Any knows how is the phone round for Tusimple?
tight marlin
@sturdy otter I don't think they allow negotiation bc they like transparency and to keep all incoming SEPs on the same salary, I could be wrong though
sharp lichen
@orchid ibex its been today since a month ago 
mellow vault
ornate charm
Any knows how is the phone round for Tusimple?
@sly saffron I have one too. Heard it’s a shit company bc their management is ass and they ask leetcode hards
I damn near cancelled my interview and they had me reschedule
Although they are a unicorn technically 👀
dark jewel
@dry mural did you get a tiktok OA?
dry mural
a recruiter gave me a code
and told me im guaranteed OA in a few days @dark jewel
@dark jewel ****
tight marlin
do you go to ucf too? I got one too the other day
wise stream
Did anyone interview with John Deere lately?
tight marlin
yeah I assumed they're going to just ask rough meds - hards, I don't think I'm going to do mine though since I've already accepted an offer I don't want to turn down and haven't done any lc in over a month
yeah I heard that too, idk if these recruiter reach-outs are just to make more people aware of them hiring rn or if they're any different
languid orbit
Microsoft pays the same as Amazon?
azure gull
Has anyone interviewed for IBM Devops Engineer role?
warm tiger
Anyone know Lyft/Unity intern -> full-time conversion rate?
grand tinsel
Has anyone ever interviewed at SpaceX before? Looking for some insight possibly
sly nebula
i turned down an offer and the recruiter is asking for what company i went with and what the salary was - is it okay to provide that information?
ebon belfry
one of my companies told me not to share salary info
shrewd blade
Same, i think they aren't allowed to ask that and you aren't allowed to disclose it
rustic ruin
anyone do nuro's phone interview? it was hard af. I got an optimization/scheduling problem with 2 queues and utilization - anyone know how to solve or where I can find solution?
this was after a super easy OA too...rip
shrewd blade
does anyone know what to expect if u get invited for a short final round w hiring manager?
Like is that when you get an offer?
worthy spear
Does anybody know if SnapEngage some sort of start-up company?
I can't find a lot of info about them other than their website
strange moth
does anyone know what to expect if u get invited for a short final round w hiring manager?
@shrewd blade behavioural, talk over your resume
shrewd blade
this is after 4 tech rounds and 1 behavioral tho
rustic ruin
@sinful meadow @naive shadow @cursive loom @uneven pasture @ornate charm @muted raft @naive current @unkempt echo
wow so many ppl interviewed at nuro
anyone do nuro's phone interview? it was hard af. I got an optimization/scheduling problem with 2 queues and utilization - anyone know how to solve or where I can find solution?
this is what I'm @ing u for lol - plz&thx
cursive loom
is this for the infra team?
cursive loom
also i think this is better asked on #leetcode_discussion since im not sure if nuro reuses questions from phone
just phrase it as a general q not from nuro
rustic ruin
ah gotchu thanks
cursive loom
@grave gull
arctic drift
hey @rustic ruin you forgot @grave gull
unkempt echo
@grave gull
cursive loom
@grave gull
grave gull
?????
arctic drift
he also did nuro
cursive loom
He also made it to phone
arctic drift
he also got rejected
cursive loom
anarchy mode
grave gull
@daring bough
subtle field
arctic drift
^ vim
cursive loom
after nuro reject
arctic drift
did you know @grave gull got rejected from nuro?
subtle field
Guys stop bullying @grave gull I think he got rejected from Nuro
vocal carbon
did nuro get rejected from @grave gull
arctic drift
wait @grave gull got rejected from Nuro?
rustic ruin
but side note - FML i cant get a job
vocal carbon
^me2
arctic drift
@grave gull can't either dw
vagrant raptor
chillin with parents 😳
subtle field
So many companies seem to be either ghosting or taking ages to respond after the OA
rustic ruin
good things will come
in a year
mortal temple
stay strong
naive current
Wait Nuro is still hiring?
naive current
They told me they reached HC
rustic ruin
apparently? i applied SWE robotics like 2-3 weeks ago
mortal temple
same 
naive current
After offer deadline
subtle field
I've got only one final interview so far and practically every other company is taking over 1 month to respond so most likely a ghost
vagrant raptor
👻 season 😦
mortal temple
it's not over until you get the reject or 8 months pass
subtle field
I wish we were in the before times where there was more hiring 😦
rustic ruin
same...
crimson shale
i failed mastercard final on a dp medium (smh), ghosted after 2 other finals, waitlisted from amazon, and my return offer has been "in the works" for about 3 months. throw my towel into the fml pool
azure gull
Did my first round with MSFT two months ago then a few days later recruiter told me I made it to final round, had me waiting almost 2 months to schedule my final round interview just to tell me today that the positions have been filled, wtf
vagrant raptor
wdym "in the works" have you tried contacting them
crimson shale
wdym "in the works" have you tried contacting them
@vagrant raptor im actually still working there part time lol. my boss keeps saying he's trying to get a hiring approval (its a small startup)
vagrant raptor
ah okay, hoping u get the approval soon to get some relief
shrewd blade
does anyone know what to expect if u get invited for a short final round w hiring manager?? this is after 4 tech rounds and 1 behavioral btw..
Also, let's say you make it through all the interviews... who usually gives you the job offer? the hiring manager or recruiter or?
honest knoll
Do y’all know how many ncg positions roblox has and how many they interviewed lol
torpid jackal
ik a few of us were complaining about being ghosted/not knowing exactly what to expect out of the interview process. I think Spotify does it very well on their site (sadly don't do "new grad roles" but you can apply full time)
bold gull
Do y’all know how many ncg positions roblox has and how many they interviewed lol
@honest knoll I know there was around 80-90 interns this past summer. I know its not new grad but only a small portion of those were seniors so idk if that helps or just makes it more confusing
silver owl
apparently? i applied SWE robotics like 2-3 weeks ago
@rustic ruin I got rejected for motion planning 3 weeks ago
They said headcount full
cursive loom
Hi if youve ever done an onsite for justin.tv before please DM me right now this instant I have 24 questions that I must ask you
iron gate
rip roblox told me they'd get back EOD but alas
last linden
its still not EOD for west coast
spring verge
anyone happen to know what the kleiner perkins timeline is?
balmy depot
Veeva always schedules a 30 minutes followup after final round right? Regardless of reject/accept status?
peak dirge
Did they get back to you after the OA? @spring verge
dreamy charm
That feel when you get a rejection email 2 months after you applied 
slow sonnet
Anyone interviewed with Digital Ocean before?
mystic mica
Does anyone know what the status is for FB New Grad 2021? Are they still just auto-rejecting and still "figuring out headcount" or are they accepting referrals that are super-stacked resumes?
fringe kelp
does anyone know if there are any available new grad roles at Uber or Lyft?
honest ruin
how long did you wait to hear back from microsoft after recruiter screen?
uneven pasture
Does anyone know what the status is for FB New Grad 2021? Are they still just auto-rejecting and still "figuring out headcount" or are they accepting referrals that are super-stacked resumes?
@mystic mica A lot of ppl got resume rejected with referral from my t10 uni
still vector
Tbh pretty sure fb is done recruiting for new grads so don't count on it
mystic mica
Tbh pretty sure fb is done recruiting for new grads so don't count on it
@still vector Can you really call it done recruiting if they haven't even recruited at all for 2021
The only new grads going in are ones with return offers
rustic ruin
That feel when you get a rejection email 2 months after you applied :what:
i got a rejection email from ford this year for an application from 2 years ago
mystic mica
like I know/have heard G is pushing back '21 NG to January, I just really hope we get some solid info on FB
@mystic mica A lot of ppl got resume rejected with referral from my t10 uni
@uneven pasture : ( yeah.. that's why I've been holding out so far
rustic ruin
i had a return offer from fb a year ago + referral this year and still got resume rejected
mystic mica
i had a return offer from fb a year ago + referral this year and still got resume rejected
@rustic ruin wait so was the return offer not valid anymore?
rustic ruin
i interned in 2019, the offer was FT w start date fall 2020
i wanted to keep it as a back up in case i decided to drop outta my masters program LOL
mystic mica
ahh, so what happened then? you're still doing masters?
rustic ruin
ya decided to finish it, applying to jobs rn and also phd next month
funny thing is, i cant find a job now LMAO
mystic mica
F
spring verge
Did they get back to you after the OA? @spring verge
@peak dirge no :((
just curious
normal panther
@ebon belfry did you ever negotiate with amex?
ebon belfry
they never negotiated
normal panther
ah riperoni
normal panther
yeah
rustic ruin
what was it 😮
rustic ruin
rip
vagrant raptor
wait amex gives that much for nyc?
ebon belfry
yeah @vagrant raptor
ocean geode
something im curious about and perhaps we could have a productive discussion on, is what do yall feel like the main reason is for not moving on to next interview rounds/getting the offer?
spring verge
didn't answer technical questions correctly is what it's always been for me
like didn't get through the q fast enough or needed too many hints
worthy spear
Lol I keep on saying sorry and second guessing and overthinking
royal rapids
Does anyone have any thoughts on Citadel (NYC, ~400k yr1/375k yr2+) vs Apple (WA, ~380k yr 1 + 2)? Currently a SWE II at Lyft in Seattle (1.5 YoE) and am trying to figure out which is the better longer-term play
Both teams seem pretty chill wlb-wise and (at least on paper) technically has more vacation days
royal rapids
yeah idk how apple managed to do it cause i was pretty flabbergasted
thank you!
I interned at Intuit/Lyft/FB/Stripe so I've done a lot of tech
so finance tech is new
atomic pivot
iirc if u leave those types of quant funds ur bounded by a non compete but idk how much that’s enforced
again as a person that hasn’t interned at either, all I can guess from reading is that ur applications of software will obviously be different. It’s really up to location and the work the team does since it looks like money is a non factor; citadel might have worse wlb
royal rapids
Yeah there's a noncompete with 'up to 12 month' language, it prob depends on where i go
yeah i negotiated pretty hard
yeah, i think my comp at citadel could technically grow faster while apple i'd be more limited till i hit Senior
tired bay
Yeah money upside is way greater at Citadel but wlb will probs be more stressful and time than Apple in most cases
royal rapids
yeah i've also heard that too
the citadel team seems pretty reasonable based on everyone I've spoken to
tired bay
Yeah pretty hard decision tbh but great options really come down to thinking hard what you value and getting razor thin on details of how you see next couple years
royal rapids
Yeah pretty hard decision tbh but great options really come down to thinking hard what you value and getting razor thin on details of how you see next couple years
@tired bay could you elaborate?
atomic pivot
he/she is saying that its not really money and more on what you want to get out of it
royal rapids
Ahh gotcha yeah that makes sense
Maybe this is me being overly cocky but I feel like I'd be more likely to try and coast at Apple whereas at Citadel I'd have to 'show up' and stay more engaged because it'd be something new
Plus because it's smaller there'd be more opportunities to have a larger impact and carve out some kind of niche for myself
worthy spear
If there is only one location for a position, should I even try and ask if there are other locations I can go to instead?
vocal carbon
If the company has other locations, might as well try
steep trout
anybody has expedia sde1 final interview experience,pls share
ocean geode
^help this person out
slim juniper
PSA: Get everything in writing, even the most "popular" "prestigious" companies will fuck you over if it suits them
rocky spoke
@royal rapids how much was ur verily offer?
cunning forge
Yeah there's a noncompete with 'up to 12 month' language, it prob depends on where i go
@royal rapids this only applies if you plan on going to another competing institution and you get paid your base salary during it + can work in tech AND get paid ur base salary during it
ie non competes are optional paid 1 year vacations
but I think you might be treated much worse at citadel and have rougher hours, though compensation will grow a decent amount faster imo
nocturne minnow
how many LC mediums is usually good enough to secure a new grad offer for a tech company
high thunder
numbers dont matter
nocturne minnow
ok, but how many do usually people do over the course of prepping
cursive loom
i mean
it differs by person
it should be by how many med/hards
but as long as u cover the general topics and have a decent approach to most problems
u should be fine
tiny wedge
700+
stiff ivy
Does anyone know which companies are still giving out OAs bc it seems like most deadlines have passed
peak dirge
I'm at 150 LC and still don't feel prepared tbh
cerulean pivot
ive done like 300 now if u include binarysearch
but im sure theres overlap, so maybe 280
devout bobcat
I mean there are times where you get questions that aren't like LC so like it's ok to not feel prepared
Just keep the grind on!
ebon belfry
same ^
dusky robin
I did around 110 till I felt comfortable with LC Med in interview
Choosing a few from each topic is the best way
devout bobcat
I did 1-300 (excluding the locked ones) and also went through https://yangshun.github.io/tech-interview-handbook/introduction/ for every topic to see which LCs I still could use a little work on and basically tried to do more of those topics
latent cipher
i've done ~45 mediums & i dont always feel prepared for interviews but feel comfortable w some types of problems
tiny wedge
honestly imo the OAs were the hardest part for all my interviews
peak dirge
I think a lot of people forget once you do a problem you have to go back and revisit it and study it. So usually every Sunday I go back and study the LC problems I did that week which is around ~15.
honest knoll
Our entire life is gonna be LC
rocky spoke
honestly u should do min 100 and optimally 150-200.
but algos is not the entire interview..you stilll have behavioural and in some cases system design too
i thnk behavioural seems to get unchecked a lot fo the times, probably because it's harder to quantify. But it's probably as important IMO
honest knoll
My friends who got ft offers last year thought they left LC behind and now they are relearning LC cause they have to interview people
daring crypt
or they can break the cycle and stop giving random leetcode hards as interview questions
strange moth
I’ve done 150 and feel comfortable with almost everything
my weakness is harder DP problems
but other than that, feels like 99% pass
blissful adder
Its also not just about knowing the solution but being able to explain it clearly
graceful hazel
Honewell self-paced interview.... What does they actually ask ? Is it technical or behavioural
Can someone help me if they attended
I applied for Graduate software engineer
rocky spoke
Honestly, how often does DP come up in interviews? it's quite rare
You can be guaranteed to get graph/trees. And in some case an array-based one
obtuse stone
I've had DP several times for internship interviews
unkempt echo
ive had at least one DP question in all but one of my onsites for some reason this yr
crimson shale
i've had DP in basically every final for tech companies
rocky spoke
which companies are these?
ive probably done 10-15 algo interviews and never got it once
fringe kelp
@graceful hazel It's just a bunch of questions about when you're graduating, work authorization etc. It wasn't really an interview
unkempt echo
ive had a dp q for nuro, cit, robinhood final rounds @rocky spoke
peak dirge
I had a dp question in my ServiceNow interview @rocky spoke They are quite common. Google and Twitter love to ask dp questions in on-sites
peak dirge
Maybe smaller companies don't ask dp questions but it's common big name companies do since dp questions are a good indicator of someone's thought process
rocky spoke
im wondering if interviewers tailor their questions depending on the candidate
peak dirge
Theres a youtube video of a Google interviewer breaking down how/why she asks the questions she does in interviews and she said she always ask DP questions because she wants to know if the candidate can identify if the question has optimal substructure and overlapping subproblems
rocky spoke
id like a DP problem actually
peak dirge
My friend said he got asked a tree DP problem in his Adobe New Grad interview lol
rocky spoke
jeez
latent cipher
idk i think dps are interesting to think through
unkempt echo
@cursive loom
rocky spoke
I feel some interviews are down to the interviewer
Young interviewers seem to ask some obnoxious questions in my experience
peak dirge
Young interviewers seem to sometime ask easier questions in interviews since they can relate more closely to new grads/interns lol. I had a young interviewer for my Google interview and he asked the Kth row Pascal triangle question which is a LC easy🤷♂️
unkempt echo
from my experience young interviewers ask me the hard shit and older interviewers ask me to reverse a string or smth lol
vagrant raptor
other around for me, old dude asked me a easy q
unkempt echo
if i were a junior dev and interviewing someone id prob feel more inclined to ask hard questions lol
make em earn it
peak dirge
I guess it just really depends on who you get lol. If I ever do a technical interview I'm going to ask a LC easy cause all my homies finna eat😤
peak dirge
im gonna ask two sum
daring bough
ok
vale grove
ill ask zero sum
rocky spoke
God i had a interviewer at Clumio who just graduated in may for a 1hour phone interview. He asked me intervals and number of conferences rooms question which is standard LC. Then he tweaked the question, which I answered too. Then in the final question, he made another tweak which was basically finding the closest pair of points but he wanted the optimal solution which is divide and conquer O(nlogn) and I could only give him the naive O(n^2) solution. A few days later I received the rejection
latent cipher
i feel like there are two types of interviewers: those who want to interview to make sure ppl feel at ease bc they didn’t have that experience and those who want to make other ppl suffer bc they suffered
tiny wedge
interviewers: this new grad shall know pain
cursive loom
whatsu p
who pinged me
i will fight u
im asking handsome
so my interviewee knows that they are loved
@unkempt echo where is my 5 star
worthy spear
Is there a site you guys use to determine if your salary is good enough for that location?
copper fractal
If I ever get on a hiring committee I'm gonna be an absolute savage
naive current
if you get paid the same in NYC and SF which is better in terms of taxes?
naive current
ty!
cursive loom
Hi if youve ever done an onsite for justin.tv before please DM me right now this instant I have 24 questions that I must ask you
wow ok i guess im the first to ever interview with them ever ok i guess gg
yeah im not gonna be part of amazon so no pip or something ez ez money
sweet vigil
Inbox so dry I miss automated OAs
unkempt echo
@unkempt echo where is my 5 star
@cursive loom where is my money
cursive loom
i paid it in resin
rocky spoke
what's the highest someone's bumped up their salary by via negotiating?
curious to see how much of a bump i should aim for
if say, the initial offer was 175k
unkempt echo
heavily dependent on company
karmic jolt
@naive current I don't think it's as clearcut for SF since SF you'd still likely want a car whereas NY you don't need that at all and subway is definitely cheaper than car costs/maintencance in cali. Imo, NY becomes cheaper with that unless you want to try SF w/o a car but a lot of stuff is outside of the main city as well
unkempt echo
he just asked about taxes
karmic jolt
ah woops mb
cursive loom
i think so
now its like how it was for ppl intl/canada
where u can only retake if a company sends it to u
noble crag
tfw you've taken codesignal 3 times and the scores have been within 1 point
blissful adder
yeah i had the same but my last one jumped like 60-70 points actually
kept getting hard DP for my fourth q
rocky spoke
speakng of taxes, anyone know any good websites for calculating taxes
digital carbon
Nerdwallet?
silver owl
im curious if there's anyone else here going for robotics/AV positions with a bachelors only
atomic pivot
I tried and failed and realized I dont know shit lul
karmic saddle
Has anyone received an email from Microsoft recruiter after phone interview that they'd like to move forward with On-site interviews but they don't have any slots for interviews right now?
How long does it take to schedule an interview and is it possible that you won't get one?
bold gull
@karmic saddle yes its been over 2 months at this point and they told me interview elsewhere
karmic saddle
Woah!!!
But did they mention that you passed the phone interview?
It's so f weird that they would do something like that
@bold gull also did you try setting up by faking a deadline maybe?
austere horizon
Is roblox's hiring bar higher for interns than for new grads? I accidentally applied as a new grad
I can/am willing to graduate in time for it hypothetically
But if it's too hard im not gonna be able to grind like that
dark jewel
from what i've seen, my full time interviews have been significantly more difficult than my intern interviews
austere horizon
Kk I'll probably ask them to switch
Breaking into big tech for the first time so I'm not about to pass
vital granite
Depends tbh
My intern tech interviews for google were much tougher then some of the full time technical interviews I got this semester.
It can be very scatter brain though cause Walmart asked me bitwise shit and they've been the only ones to do that this entire time.
I feel like some companies just wing it LMAO
cursive loom
How many lines of code have you written
Also why does google ask that question or used to
Apparently there's a good reason for it but I never found out about it
ornate charm
Is roblox done hiring? I applied from my second email and they sent a hackerrank but it seems a bit late
cursive loom
It's something about estimation I guess
last linden
"we're looking for googleyness in our candidates (๑￫ܫ￩)" meanwhile my interviewer sounds like he wants to die
heavy jacinth
Just now even i got the hackerrank challenge from robolox
high thunder
I put lines of code on my resume, a lower bound, to indicate which languages I’m best at
cursive loom
that kinda makes sense
but if they ask you to estimate ur loc
do u go for a low or high number
or like
how do u answer
if its high, they might be like why do u code so much, cant u do it more efficient
if its lo, why do you not code as much
mortal temple
well more loc could also just mean more projects/experience but I agree that asking loc is kinda weird
cursive loom
i mean i think ive personally written more loc in c++/java/js than python iirc
but im most proficient in python
mortal temple
yeah that's another weird thing about asking loc
probably why most places don't really ask
austere horizon
Yea I just got roblox as well
iron gate
pain
light sage
+1 for roblox
real prism
apparently tik tok only has 48 SWEs so they must be hiring a lot
real prism
yeah my friend made a recruiting post
on FB and said they only have 48 backend/mobile app SWEs currently
and are hiring a lot
tiny wedge
not enough to prevent the resume rejection tho
real prism
u got resume rejected?
tiny wedge
from tik tok ya
real prism
true still waiting to hear back
stuck fable
sights of roblox slowly slipping away
tiny wedge
ill retire before roblox responds after my final
stuck fable
10-15 years down the line, we luck out and become senior engineers at FAANG or something
check out emails, sees a roblox email
"hey we see youre successful now, want that new grad job?"
tiny wedge
i hope roblox gives me closure before my funeral
bold gull
@karmic saddle yup I made it to finals. Heard back like 2 days after phone and had multiple deadlines that didn't do anything. They said their hiring requirements have changed but I thought it was a definite final round and after waiting a month was told its not a guaranteed final. agreed its a horrible way to do recruiting. rather have been ghosted then get my hopes up that I made it to finals but am not even going to get scheduled 
tiny wedge
join the club
bold gull
y'all will eventually hear back from Roblox
I got hired in May for an internship in June
They don't stop hiring this month loll
tiny wedge
roblox doesnt give a sh*t about deadlines
stuck fable
part of the concern is also that roblox seemed to have reopened apps from all the OA emails
tiny wedge
i think a lot of ppl didnt get a recruiter so theres no PoC
stuck fable
but a lot of us final round ppl still havent heard back
the timing is just kinda jank
spring verge
Has anyone received an email from Microsoft recruiter after phone interview that they'd like to move forward with On-site interviews but they don't have any slots for interviews right now?
@karmic saddle this happened to me last year, I never ended up getting a final interview lmao
bold gull
like the recruiting team is 3 people. And like at least when I was there it really seemed like 1 person was the main contact point
patent cloak
If I have an offer deadline for tomorrow, does that mean I can sign tomorrow? Or should I sign in within the next hour lol
patent cloak
Okay thanks man
tiny wedge
it might vary by company but i doubt they'd have a problem w/ it, I did it this monday
patent cloak
Makes sense. Plus it makes sense I’d have until the end of the week, like it’d be weird if it expired Thursday night
unkempt echo
roblox sucks
spring verge
question for people who did the roblox OA, did you get all the questions correct to move on? Or did you just do your best and ended up getting next round interview?
tiny wedge
@spring verge i got full points for first 2 and about 2/3 on the last
spring verge
Cause I remember doing that and it being one of the harder coding challenges I did last year
real prism
yeah last q is a hard
spring verge
got it thanks! @real prism @tiny wedge
should I apply lmao or are they just gaming people by sending OA's to ppl now
tiny wedge
worst case is you lose 2 hours to an OA
stuck fable
also got first 2 right and TLE on last one for roblox
real prism
they officially filed for IPO today
spring verge
worst case is you lose 2 hours to an OA
@tiny wedge feeling so lazy at this point lmao, may as well go for it at some point tho
tiny wedge
bruh i feel, as soon as i got my final rounds i stopped doing OAs
i also refused to take codesignals/hirevue/pymetrics after 1 try lmao
if it makes any1 feel better i got a 675 on a codesignal and ended up getting offers (not from that place tho lmfao)
stuck fable
do you know how long a codesignal score lasts?
silver owl
you can retake after 30 days without a company requesting
and 14 days if a company requests
stuck fable
but if i get a godly score, does it expire at some point and i have to take a new one?
tiny wedge
probably like next year but i think you can reuse your current score
stuck fable
ok sweet, cause i RNGed a 4th questions i knew immediately
that 4th question boosts you up like crazy
stuck fable
if i had to retake, i would start with 4, and if i cant figure it out after ~5 mins, i brute force, finish 1-3, and turn in
visual lagoon
1,2,3,4 > 1,2,4 > 1,2,3
stuck fable
speed also apparently plays a big role in the score