or medium small boi
#2021_grads
arctic drift
supple fjord
sausage dog B)
arctic drift
rescue a pug
arctic drift
daschund?
https://manofmany.com/living/best-dog-breeds-for-apartment-living go through this and see if you liek any
LOL
tiny wedge
akamaru
unkempt echo
oo ty
grave gull
shiba inu!
arctic drift
thank you for the support
blissful adder
yeah good choice as well
floofy as hell
might be tough to clean in the winter tho
unkempt echo
flooof
cursive loom
bro just get a wolf
unkempt echo
no u
unkempt echo
selling my genshin account $300 CAD
unkempt echo
Might want to consider what your wlb is like after covid too if you are going to get a dog. We're all remote now and have time to spend with a pet. One day, you'll probably be back at an office and some breeds do not do well with you working like a workaholic at the office. They live 1-2 decades and they get really emotionally attached to their owners, so make sure you're ready to commit.
@eager glacier appreciate the consideration - my girlfriend will also be helping out
cursive loom
how u gonna taunt me like this
unkempt echo
300 CAD is like 50 cent
unkempt echo
LOL noo
unkempt echo
what would i do without my resident canadian
cursive loom
what is a hiru
unkempt echo
i have a lot more qs to ask u about ur country
cursive loom
gimme ur canadian knowledge privilege now
u dont deserve to know
the maple syrup secrets
and the beaver tails
and the putin
arctic drift
just get a wolf
grave gull
@unkempt echo wdym? I didn't agree to helping out with the dog wtf
cursive loom
hiru ur dog is allowd in canada
but not u
i will bar ur entry myself
i have the power
arctic drift
is your dad ceo of canada
steep trout
anyone has written for stripe hackerrank?please let me know what kind of questions or pattern the test will be?
worthy spear
Anyone lived in Missouri? If so, what is it like? I'm trying to see if Missouri is an okay place to live in.
Specifically O'Fallon
earnest mist
any idea on whos actively hiring rn?
arctic drift
can he hmu with some dank jackets
uneven pasture
ok fob
grave gull
i want canada goodse
cursive loom
no
ur not allowed
i made ban just for hiru
but i will send canada goose ur way
more specifically
canada geese
vocal carbon
that's almost like hiring a hitman
vocal carbon
walking across campus during mating season is the riskiest thing i've ever done
cursive loom
their aggression knows no limit
unkempt echo
sounds like they take after u techno
grave gull
mating season
unkempt echo
toxic dota player
stable plume
I had to scroll up to see what yall were talking about, I was like "mating season? are they talking about freshmen..."
cursive loom
yooo
my team must be from the local garbage dump
cuz the plays they make
are nonexistent
its tough when i say
be careful, x hero might do this to u
and then x hero does what i just said to the guy i was talking to
and im like k
unkempt echo
why dont u just play genshin instead
cursive loom
u are correct
but if i start genshin
u will be right
and i cant have that happen
vital hawk
Is it possible to get new grad famg with no prior internships? Worst case I’m graduating with a computer science tutoring job and research
languid orbit
I think it's possible
Just do an unpaid internship this summer, that'll be better than nothing
I know a friend who got Amazon with no internships
vital hawk
Still on the hunt definitely. Thank you!
dark jewel
Did KP send out OA's to everyone, or was there resume screening done first?
or i guess did anyone apply to KP and not receive a hackerrank?
surreal trench
I got one idk
stark otter
Anyone heard from adobe for full time?
mental sinew
Is Amazon still recruiting for new grad roles? I applied in August and never heard from them, and any other role I apply for gets me rejected by the next day
dark jewel
amazons basically done for the year, they stop sending out OA's when people start getting waitlisted
silver owl
amzn canada also isnt done afaik
worthy spear
@stark otter no :/ I might reach out to the recruiter sometime this week
@mental sinew amazon is still hiring
mental sinew
amazons basically done for the year, they stop sending out OA's when people start getting waitlisted
@dark jewel
So do you think they'll open up in Spring? How do you find out if you're on the waitlist?
dark jewel
waitlist happens after you finish the entire interview process. instead of giving you an offer, they send you an email telling you you're waitlisted
mental sinew
Oh damn, I've never received an OA, so I guess they'll send out a reject wave soon
Do you guys have any suggestions for new grad openings? I don't see any of the well known companies on LinkedIn anymore. Any suggestions on who hires in Spring?
stark otter
@worthy spear let me know if you get anything
I used a referral too
still nothing
amazon is hiring?
didnt they just start waitlisting
worthy spear
I didn't use a referral :(
Idk about swe but their other positions
stark otter
oh okay
i dont think it matters much unless the guy is on the team of the opening
and puts in a good word
prolly not for me
worthy spear
Ooh you're not wrong which position did you apply for for adobe?
stark otter
mostly positions that said full stack
or web devs
with the tag new grad 2021
wau ?
worthy spear
Ooh I applied to their security position (I forgot the entire title)
Anyone hear back from Expedia?
alpine hill
I did the initial interview for PM i think 3 mos ago for Expedia, still have not heard back
stark otter
damn
alpine hill
well actually more like 2, but still yea highkey long-ass wait
worthy spear
😁🥲
amber minnow
is robinhood still hiring
silver owl
mbp if u just wanna do web dev and not have to set shit up
thinkpad/xps if u wanna run linux
one of those $800 ryzen laptops for value
icy hare
bloomberg
ocean geode
Also got KP hackerrank lmao
@dapper vale how does one apply to kp, i am assuming you mean kleiner perkins. i do not see a linkedin application for it!
primal summit
i thought he meant Kaiser Permanente lmfao
cerulean pivot
what best laptop?
@visual lagoon imo, macbook pro if ur gonna code
dapper vale
I think it's closed cuz can't find anymore
yea
@cerulean pivot was the kp hackerrank rough
cerulean pivot
no
frozen oyster
Btw, if I get rejected for an Amazon role (after an interview), does that mean I can't get interviewed for any other role at Amazon for the next 6 months?
dusky robin
Yes
wraith basin
!salary bloomberg
feral martenBOT
fast siren
Does anyone have any info on the Bloomberg NYC vc Princeton offices? Does the Princeton, NJ have a lower entry bar? I'd rather get into the NYC office, but if there's a higher chance of scoring the NJ interview, I'd take that over NYC.
digital carbon
@fast siren the interview process and hiring bar are the same for the Princeton office
Like there's one general recruiting pipeline for new grads, and then once you get an offer you can choose whether you wanna work in NY or NJ
fast siren
Thanks for the info! The recruiter told me if I choose NJ right now, the interviewers will be from that office.
my rational was they probably need X engineers in NJ and most ppl are gonna choose NYC, so they'll have less options for NJ
remote canopy
Has anyone gotten any contact from IBM after hackerrank?
I did the newgrad backend and wanted to see if anyone had progressed, havent been seeing many posts.
stark otter
just had my bloomberg phone and both questions were ones i havent seen
barren jungle
@rocky spoke did palantir schedule a call w u?
fast siren
just had my bloomberg phone and both questions were ones i havent seen
@stark otter were they in the LC tagged questions?
blissful adder
^^
stark otter
i did the first one but spent too much time on it
it was an Lc easy but there were edge cases i was missing on
sinful hawk
That happened to me as well
stark otter
second one was hard and my approach was basically as good as naive
he proved that
lmao
i gave my approach and time complexity and he said okay what about naive, isnt it same
@sinful hawk bloomberg?
sinful hawk
Ya, my interviewer trolled me I gave him the correct complexities and he said are you sure, so I changed it
sinful hawk
No I took an L
worthy spear
How are people getting interviews at Apple anyway?
stark otter
its pretty weird
worthy spear
I have like 15 submitted applications
stark otter
yeah
worthy spear
the thing is I never get a response from them
stark otter
same
worthy spear
did your friend get a referral
stark otter
they noticed him since he had an internship under his belt with a good company already i guess
worthy spear
Hmmm
stark otter
no referral
stark otter
yeah it weird
stark otter
i know other people with faang internships not hearing from them
worthy spear
I heard they care about fairs more and my school doesnt have career fairs
cerulean pivot
it’s because it’s catered to whatever the hiring manager wants to do
stark otter
makes sense
i think the manager of the team liked my friend a lot on the one interview so they went with it
digital carbon
Do bloomberg developers primarily use macs or pc?
cc @digital carbon
@eager glacier it's a mix. Many people had (pc) desktops and remote into their desktop to WFH. Most interns were given thinkpads, a handful macs. Ik some software infra teams use macs.
Technically you have a say as to whether you want a mac or pc, but if you choose to take a mac and the rest of your team uses a pc, they might not be able to help with certain things. So take that fwiw
Also I feel like it doesn't make a huge difference anyways since you either have to ssh into a datacenter vm/bare metal machine or work in docker containers locally
undone abyss
How are people getting interviews at Apple anyway?
@worthy spear i had a recruiter reach out to me because i think i met the requirements well for the position/team. It was very shocking to me cause my current employ and internship i did that has what they where looking for are very much no name companies.
loud anchor
personally mac setup on a lot of stuff is way better
from personal experience documentation on it is a lot better
yeah I've gotten no news at all from apple
I don't think I've ever gotten past resume stage
digital carbon
to be clear I meant you'd have to ssh into a linux machine to do any meaningful work anyways (at least ime)
the developer experience teams are working hard on making local development more possible, but it's far from being the norm across the company
azure gull
In the eyes of a recruiter looking at resumes, is IBM up there in prestige with companies like Microsoft, google, apple etc
nova gyro
not quite
mint swan
Any good free resources to learn object oriented design? CTCI doesn't provide proper explaination.
nova gyro
but with IBM on your resume, im sure you could get interviews at those companies
azure gull
Thanks for the reply@nova gyro
blissful adder
yeah its not quite prestigious but its known
wind acorn
@azure gull PM'd
normal panther
wish they would respond to my backend OA i sent a few weeks ago lol
vocal carbon
@brisk jolt just curious how low was it
What kind of reasoning is "because you have an apartment there"lmao
Also that's v low, I think even no name startups do 50
flint halo
some companies only offer relocation stipends (vs housing stipends) which only apply if you’re relocating
also you’d be working for free or equity at a no-name startup
pliant gazelle
Thanks!
vocal carbon
@flint halo idk man I only work at no name startups, I don't think I've ever been paid less than 45(outside us for lowest)+reloc
visual lagoon
:cries_in_20_per_hour:
frozen oyster
Yes
@dusky robin Even if it is a behavioral interview? Also, if were to cancel said interview (because the role itself is not relevant to my field), would I still not get interviewed for any other role for the next 6 months?
old kestrel
30 isnt very low
silver owl
laughs in tesla
vital granite
yeah 35 is great in multiple areas but for the really expensive places in america that's actually low balling as hell
old kestrel
Lmao
silver owl
i used to live in mountain view
there's really nothing to do in san jose
except i went there to watch hockey once
supple fjord
i had my roblox interview today and the guy told me that i would hear back latest late next week 😮
idk if that helps anyone
dry epoch
@worthy spear not personally, but a close friend of mine lived there for 7 years and hated it
worthy spear
😭 thanks did your friend say why?
dry epoch
high crime, lots of homeless
held out as long as he could, but after getting held up at gunpoint a street over from his apartment he left the area completely
stable plume
Has anyone lived / visited Irvine, CA? I hear it is a safe albeit boring place
Then I read Yelp reviews where people had their cars broken into / tires stolen
I've never lived in a large city or even nearby a large city so I am clutching my pearls at the thought of it
dry epoch
I visited, seems fine
I feel a lot of this is very neighborhood dependent, I was in palo alto for a while and I never had any problems compared to my friend in san jose
on the nyc side I have friends who run into problems in west village but other friends that are perfectly fine in chelsea, and its barely a few blocks between
devout bobcat
I went to UC Irvine for undergrad, loved the place
It’s pretty safe if you live in a gated area like Villa Siena, Park Place, etc but the rent at these places are like 2.6k a month (at Villa Siena) for 2b2b
But honestly it depends on the neighborhood, when I lived in a campus apartment, there were a lot of break ins and a lot of stolen goods
stable plume
Yeah specifically I looked at the Yelp reviews for Park Place, apparently they have some trouble with pests. I don't mind paying quite a bit for a safe, comfortable location
devout bobcat
If you really wanna go all out you can live at Astoria, Skyline but thats like 4k a month
stable plume
I am just so used to livin in luxury apartments in an area where the suburbs are the city and the outlying areas are all rural lol. So it's very spacious, washer and dryer in unit, I can leave my door unlocked out in the open without trouble
I think I will aim for an apartment or condo near some of those fancy HOA neighborhoods lol
devout bobcat
Tustin is also an option
stable plume
@brisk jolt How do you enjoy it?
Also what's the tech scene like? I am going for Google which has a small satellite office. Is the city inundated with techies like the Bay?
Tustin is on the border of Santa Ana right? I was told to avoid Santa Ana but tbh I have no clue lol
stable plume
You have my attention lmao I am such a stereotype... love CostCo and suburbs 😂
stable plume
I live in wine country where all we do is go to wineries and spend time with family. Thank you for the recommendations!
devout bobcat
I lived there my last year of undergrad, never had any problems
Really depends @brisk jolt
UCI apartments are kinda dangerous
stable plume
I am so glad to hear that lol but then I look at Yelp reviews and I'm like WTF a tire jack in my area would make the news 😂
I'm so relieved, I know I should be gunning for the city living lifestyle but I might die of culture shock if I do that
When I visit Seattle and have to request a key to the bathroom which is always destroyed I'm just like ???? what is this
stable plume
I am excited to go to the beach, I was robbed, my original internship before WFH was supposed to be the Venice office a literal 10 min walk from beach
stable plume
I was robbed
devout bobcat
@stable plume I just remembered you could live in Newport
stable plume
No I mean I didn't get to go to the beach
devout bobcat
Its like 15 min drive
stable plume
I'm being dramatic lol
devout bobcat
Yeah
stable plume
The Google office is close to Newport I believe
devout bobcat
irvine tustin newport all super close
stable plume
Nice to hear
stable plume
I live in eastern WA which is always sunny so I am excited to have a break in sunny Cali before I inevitably end up in western WA
Where the sun goes to die 😫
devout bobcat
Like you can walk to Diamond Jamboree for food
stable plume
I want to say I don't want that cuz then I'll order out too much but I know if I'm not close I'll just Uber Eats lmao
devout bobcat
Lmao
unkempt echo
I am excited to go to the beach, I was robbed, my original internship before WFH was supposed to be the Venice office a literal 10 min walk from beach
@stable plume where at? if you don't mind me asking
winged totem
Hey guys anyone tryna leetcode with me via voice chat? I just started (ik kinda late but better late than never). Thought would be easier if I could collab with someone
sharp lichen
i feel irvine you almost need to have a car to get around
i love it tho. the food is amazing
vocal carbon
Man I feel you guys
I wish I did a venice beach/nyc internship during a normal(non corona term)
dusky robin
@stable plume I have lived in irvine for most of my life, it is a great city
I have heard good things about the google office here as well!
peak dirge
I'm looking for jobs in Irvine cause I love that place so much
It's amazing
Very chill vibe
vital hawk
Do major companies do new grad hiring for fall graduates?
tiny wedge
@vital hawk yea but some of them don’t have start dates until the summer
vital hawk
Ahhh okay. Interesting! Any idea when I would apply to new grad if I’m graduating fall 2021
mortal temple
you can just apply to the same places but then when you get an offer, ask them if you can start earlier
some companies don't have start dates until summer but many do have earlier start dates available
rocky zinc
Does any university teach courses related to scalability and stuff? If you make websites and try scaling them how do you do it if it's like a hobby project that no one's using?
vital hawk
@eager glacier the last leetcode question I looked at (and said I’ll do this later) before my interview was the same question in my interview. I got rejected
wide solar
Does anyone know how long it take to hear back after Duolingo final for new grad SWE?
autumn lynx
@eager glacier the last leetcode question I looked at (and said I’ll do this later) before my interview was the same question in my interview. I got rejected
@vital hawk my worst nightmare
tidal lynx
@wide solar They said 2 days for me, but its been almost a week
quick panther
mine said end of this week
tame latch
The longer it takes the less likely you get it 🙂
quick panther
ok ^ i had this guy blocked don't listen to this kid lmfao
can't read the fucking room lmfao
silver owl
@silver owl what should my salary be if I were to live there?
@worthy spear the location is gonna make your life suck in some way no matter how much you make there unless you figure out how to teleport from sf to sj
tame latch
No actually
It’s because the people who did get it
Got
It within a week
My personal experience with duolingo is the
Recruiters ghost you/ put you on lower priority
If they didn’t decide to give you an offer
Because they have no urgency to compete
You can listen to people who try to make you feel better
unkempt echo
@tame latch have you seen the same for internships from duolingo too?
tame latch
Yes
tame latch
Like they get back to you 6 days ish
If they want you
Like if it’s 2 weeks aka 10 business days
It’s a lot less likely
There are some instances of people getting it
But Probability goes down with time hence my comment
- conditional probability decreases
Also them saying we will get back to you is just standard bs
Because they said the same to me
So they basically get back to you whenever they feel like it
Depending on if you got an offer
Or you can keep your dreams alive and blame me
Whoever makes you feel better
unkempt echo
i guess they don't really have any incentive to reject in a timely manner
and its advantageous for them to keep a bigger waitlist
especially as a smaller firm
tame latch
also duo only has couple hundred people
so even if they are expanding
they don't have the same amount of spots as
say a microsoft/amazon
nor do they have as standardized a recruiting system
so it could just be someone at hr is sending emails with copy pastes + name changes
In addition they could be waiting on other candidates to potentially reject offers etc
For example if you are an outstanding candidate you might be worth going over a target headcount for and hence a faster response time.
But if you are borderline they might want to see how other people respond to their offers before rejection/responding
this is in contrast to a firm that has to hire hundreds/ thousands of new grad swes where you aren't really being compared to other candidates directly but a hiring bar per say.
turbid furnace
Anyone who applied in August & hasn't received any reply from Amazon yet?
Neither OA nor reject; status is Application submitted
hard pebble
Finished Amazon OA1 over 24 hrs ago, no response yet...
dapper vale
Realistically do you guys think we'll ever go back to fully working in the office for tech?
dapper vale
Same I really hope we do
azure gull
I hope so too I’m ready to leave my hometown already😂
dapper vale
Lmao yeah I feel you, not tryna work from my parents home
Even once things go back to normal I think there'll be a lot more flexibility tho
Like people working from home half the week and coming in occasionally
radiant shore
no pls. i hope i never leave my house for the next 20 years
sweet vigil
Anyone who applied in August & hasn't received any reply from Amazon yet?
Neither OA nor reject; status is Application submitted
@turbid furnace 👆🏻
slate crypt
daring bough
blissful adder
Clear Street comp isnt bad
Can someone remind me how the codesignal scoring actually works
tired bay
1,2,4 is best combination
blissful adder
can i submit mad early to compensate if i dont nail the fourth?
so skip the third until i finish the fourth?
tired bay
Yeah 1,2,4 can get u 800
barren jungle
so its actually a very fixed range for codesignal
if you get 1 and 2, guaranteed 710-750 region
1,2,3 guaranteed 770 - 800 region
1,2,4 guaranteed 800-820 region
blissful adder
oh no shit the 3rd question doesnt mean shit haha
barren jungle
1,2,3,4 830-850 region
the high end of every region depends on how many test cases you solve on the ones you didn't get
so I think once I got 1,2 but on 3 and 4 i was missing one test case each, and i got 748
blissful adder
interesting ive gotten 1,2,3 and like half of 4 and still only got 777
cursive loom
yeah
blissful adder
fookin codesignal
cursive loom
they weight failing tests a lot
barren jungle
yah you need to be missing one test case to get in the 790 region
blissful adder
none of my codesignals have turned into interviews so
so if i take a new one for square will it share my old one if it is better? no, right?
barren jungle
i wouldn't stress, i passed with a 748 once, the company must've realized i missed 1-2 test cases and said ok move them through
blissful adder
what company
barren jungle
robinhood
blissful adder
bruh that was my 777
maybe they looked at the code
you only failed 2 total cases for a 748?
barren jungle
yah
blissful adder
howd that interview go?
barren jungle
big L
strange moth
rapid pelican
Has anybody given Apple Online Recruitment Test?
sly saffron
Anyone here has appeared for c3.ai onsite? What kind of questions do they ask? Do they ask system design questions?
tiny wedge
lmfao i got sub-700 on codesignal the one time i did it this season
zinc knoll
To get a codesignal score - is that just doing the practice tests, or does a company need to send you an evaluation for it to count?
stoic bear
@sly saffron lc med/hard + sys design
blissful adder
just get 800+ for most company
@strange moth did 4 total codesginals so far, first 3 750-780, ofc i drop an 841 on my fouth and not my first
@zinc knoll they have to request it, sometimes they give their own tests that are the same for everyone(@clearstreet)
anyone get 840+ on a codesignal and still get rejected without an interview?
sly saffron
@stoic bear Did you appear for ml related roles or an ml?
vocal carbon
You can take it once and then submit to multiple companies right
stoic bear
@sly saffron nope, not for ML team
blissful adder
@vocal carbon as long as the company doesnt have their own specific test, thats what clear street did
vocal carbon
Ahh
vocal carbon
Yeah the first time I did a codesignal was for my curr company, and that was a custom one
Databricks was the standard and proctored for me
blissful adder
did you do well on it?
vocal carbon
Databricks? No lol that was the worst i did it at like 4am half drunk
I've an interview in an hour and the email said:
The interview will be over google docs, it's four questions (all drawn from problems I've personally had to solve while writing code for TINY_STARTUP)
I've no clue what to expect lol
iron gate
roblox responded to my email, said they'll try to get back to me by next wednesday
stark otter
prepare for auto correct and capitalizations
arctic drift
maybe they'll just never get back 😦
5 years from now we'll be Senior SDEs at some company and they'll be like "yeah we want to hire you now"
vocal carbon
As an intern ofc
unkempt echo
Quick question
Say I intern at company x in the fall of 2021 and they decide to give me a return
Will the return be for summer 22 or I can finesse a new grad fte offer for summer 23?
@worthy spear good question for your recruiter, but i've seen it done at some companies
do u say u "do/take" an interview or u "give" an interview
gloomy plaza
Does anyone know if it's possible to get a full time return offer that starts right after a summer internship?
latent cipher
@unkempt echo just like grammatically? usually i would say "i have an interview" or "i interviewed" or maybe "i do an interview with ___". first two are more common imo
tall nebula
for all the roblox ppl, I got this reply:
if I could have the hiring managers make a decision right now, I would. With that being said, they are still determining a decision and we hope to have it as soon as possible.
seems like some hiring managers interviewed multiple people and need to make a decision on one person?
iron gate
oop
sharp lichen
what team are you guys interviewing for
blissful adder
@gloomy plaza definitely possible, depends on the company
uneven pasture
i've seen quite a few people on linkedin who have interned then transitioned straight into full time lol
orchid ibex
Hopefully we're all in team matching process
vocal carbon
A lot of people so do internship->part time till graduate->full time
orchid ibex
yeah usually you convert to FT
dusky robin
My guess is for roblox each manager interviewed 3-4 ppl and theyre deciding which one to pick
Based on that response @tall nebula
peak dirge
Anyone do the Square codesignal yet?
ornate charm
Is the codesignal automated??
If the app just released, how are people getting it so fast
supple fjord
i hope they hire more than 1 person per team for roblox 😦
my hm person said he manages 3 teams so maybe x3 chances?? xd
arctic drift
yeah my hm manages like 2 teams but he also said when I asked him that my placement on team would be after I worked for a bit and figured out what i wanted to do
(this is contingent upon receiving an offer, which I don't have yet xd)
crimson shale
there is a link in the application, pretty easy to miss if you're not paying attention @ornate charm
ornate charm
Got it ty!
wind acorn
@arctic drift what company was this? Roblox?
stark otter
oh wait it is automated
stuck hull
Can anyone provide insight into SIG Codesignal and second round phone interview?
worthy cedar
does anyone know who got the clear street offer or is it intentionally anonymous
cerulean pivot
they can say who they are if they want
but we dont wanna expose any1 that isnt trying to be exposed
worthy cedar
clear street guy pls dm me would v much appreciate 
vocal carbon
Is the square codesignalcustom
stuck hull
do u think its fine not to fill out the message to hiring manager section for square app?
autumn lynx
Prob
vagrant raft
Yea its probably fine
blissful adder
the square codesignal is a stadard coding report like robinhood and databricks
vocal carbon
Ah so I can submit old score thx
stuck hull
Are there new grad jobs that aren't on the pitt csc github or ingested here? whats the best way to find those? linkedin?
smoky jungle
yall wtf does economic empowerment mean
stuck hull
lol i just copied the def'n on their site
giving people access to the economy basically?
spice belfry
anyone do the informatica oa?
yall wtf does economic empowerment mean
@smoky jungle when you're empowered by economics, like bezos
wind acorn
yall wtf does economic empowerment mean
@smoky jungle giving people the tools they need to succeed economically
i.e. new/small businesses should have access to credit just as easily as bigger companies
and they shouldn't lose sales because they can't accept credit cards
smoky jungle
👀 thats what i wrote. like giving small businesses chance to compete with papa bezos
wind acorn
and they should focus less on managing payroll and more on growing their business in other ways
👀 thats what i wrote. like giving small businesses chance to compete with papa bezos
@smoky jungle yeah basically
keen onyx
Who all ordered there PS5/Xbox?
noble crag
I'll order mine after I accept an offer 
autumn lynx
^ how lmao
thorny mango
@noble crag that's a motto
stiff mango
Anyone do Kleiner Perkins Hackerrank yet?
thorny mango
What's a good Code Signal score?
lucid mason
Is there a channel for giving referrals?
cerulean pivot
no
lucid mason
That's unfortunate 😦
cerulean pivot
you can definitely get referrals on here, but youre forced to interact with people. we don't want to have a referral-first community
blind is a good place for that
lucid mason
I'd like to give referrals. I would love to have people on here to DM me with the job posting and resume. Then I would filter them out and choose who to refer
I guess Blind is still the place for that haha
cerulean pivot
yeah that's really kind of you. i would just let people know in this chan & the intern chan
and i'm sure you'll get hits
lucid mason
Awesome. Thanks!
orchid ibex
Taco what company are you at?
lucid mason
Hey folks, I am currently a Backend Software Engineer at TikTok. Job postings for interns and new grads have recently opened up. If you are interested in solving interesting and complex engineering problems, please feel free to DM me with your resume. Here is the link: https://careers.tiktok.com/position?keywords=&category=6704215862603155720&location=CT_157,CT_243&project=&type=2,3&job_hot_flag=¤t=1&limit=10
Hope that answers your question @orchid ibex
cerulean pivot
omg
i love tiktok, but i had to remove the app yesterday
i was spending 2 hour minimum a day on it LOL
@tardy sequoia ^
except i alr signed for summer
cerulean pivot
LOL iconic
tardy sequoia
only thing is i wish search was better cuz once i lose a tik tok i can never find it again 
cerulean pivot
oh
@lucid mason
i have a legitimate product concern
have you ever used web version of tiktok?
quick panther
beware: tiktok's interviews are all lc hards
cerulean pivot
i'm not sure if you can say something on slack, but in order to pause videos on web on the fyp, you click the video playing and it full screens it, then you have to click the video again to pause. on youtube, you just click the video playing and it pauses. this micro-interaction is really annoying and is why i dont even bother with the web app
marble pond
they want you to download the app sweety 🙂
royal hearth
are you guys going to rent apt when working?
visual lagoon
royal hearth
smart but where would you park the car at night
visual lagoon
in your apartment garage
amber minnow
is anyone else just tired of life
i have an offer from IBM, but for some reason i feel so unsatisified
royal hearth
Yea it just gives temporary good feeling
amber minnow
did anyone do the KP fellowship OA
royal hearth
idk if i want to spend money on rent once its my time to work
blissful adder
love vandwellers
i have an offer from IBM, but for some reason i feel so unsatisified
@amber minnow yeah ive been there...take care of yourself man; jobs are great but theyre not what makes happy people happy
wispy sun
anyone got an offer from doordash?
stark otter
atleast with a job I can search for happiness unstressed 
lucid mason
No one expects an optimal answer for LC hards at TikTok. We like to see your thought process 🙂
If you communicate well and don't solve the question, I would pass you
digital carbon
i have an offer from IBM, but for some reason i feel so unsatisified
@amber minnow I think a lot of people in this server forget that having a job lined up at a company with good brand name already puts them ahead of 90% of other CS students
I have a friend who doesn't have any job lined up, and it's really messing with him
perspective matters
stark otter
fair point, good to know
magic sable
If I have Codesignal from 2 companies, and before taking the test I defer from one of them. Can I send it to them after taking the test (like if I get a good result)
Its the one where proctoring is required
quick panther
@wind acorn were you referred at square? my friend couldn't find the new grad role to refer to
wind acorn
@quick panther no sorry it was a return offer
quick panther
ah okok
cerulean pivot
no
can just reply
thanks i appreciate the transparency. ill try to get an extension on my current offer in the meantime
blissful adder
^
solemn epoch
is 787 codesignal good enough for square or should i retake
cerulean pivot
i know someone who got through with less than that score for their fall internships
dark jewel
Does square make you do the whole id verification thing?
solemn epoch
yeah
i know someone who got through with less than that score for their fall internships
@cerulean pivot yea and I hear some get rejected with a higher score.. so idk
autumn lynx
Walmart website sucks> is 787 codesignal good enough for square or should i retake
@solemn epoch you can retake?
blissful adder
^
solemn epoch
Walmart website sucks> is 787 codesignal good enough for square or should i retake
@solemn epoch you can retake?
@autumn lynx i can just send my old score
blissful adder
what was your old score
blissful adder
i mean idk if the companies select the difficulty of the questions but my prev best of 3 was 777, no interviews and i did this one and got an 841
so might as well just go for it imo
solemn epoch
i mean idk if the companies select the difficulty of the questions but my prev best of 3 was 777, no interviews and i did this one and got an 841
@blissful adder did you end up getting intvs after the 841?
im just worried that i do worse and itll force me to send that score
blissful adder
just sent in the 841 earlier today
yeah that was my worry too
but idk i didnt get interviews with 777 so i figured there was no loss
solemn epoch
i did get an robinhood intv with like 77x but this was in like sept so idk if the bar has gone up
blissful adder
i think the diff there is resume^ I had a similar score for theirs and got rejected i believe
Asana and Robinhood I sent in 77x for and autoreject for both back in aug/sept
solemn epoch
alright thx maybe i'll just yolo it then
atomic pivot
hello friends. am back still no job tho
wind acorn
@atomic pivot you got this!
tiny wedge
i believe in u 🙏
stuck fable
for all the people worried about codesignal, ive gotten rejected with a 849 so it doesnt say too much tbh
visual lagoon
TBH their parser was the best I have seen so far
spice belfry
damn you can only apply to 2 jobs at tiktok?
ebon belfry
good defense company i think
modest plank
@worthy spear good company good 100% job security good work
worthy spear
There's a job I'm interested in but the requirements are intimidating 😅
woven tinsel
god i hate hireVue
autumn lynx
I suck at the code signals. I can never finish it in time even though I can solve the questions
wind acorn
@worthy spear i feel like for many job postings "requirements" oftentimes really mean just "nice to haves"
apply anyway and have them reject you if you're not a good fit... don't reject yourself bc you never know you might get an interview
worthy spear
Lol but if I receive an interview, I sometimes either cancel or just try my best but still feel bad that I'm wasting their time 😅
digital carbon
Don't think that you're wasting their time, they chose to interview you and the loss of their time is their liability
worthy spear
@digital carbon true that 😂😅
amber minnow
@amber minnow yeah ive been there...take care of yourself man; jobs are great but theyre not what makes happy people happy
@blissful adder appreciate u m8
sullen forge
How many problems are there for square ? I am planning to give it on weekend ?
icy spire
2-3 LCs
blissful adder
^square codesignal?
vocal carbon
If I have an offer expiring on Monday and It's 30-50k less than what I want, should I even bother negotiating?
stark otter
is the codesignal 2-3 LC meds? For square
iron gate
just noticed my msft application finally went to routed to recruiter
after applying 8/20 lol
blissful adder
^ yah same
languid orbit
just noticed my msft application finally went to routed to recruiter
@iron gate Is it normal for it to be in archived section but still say routed to recruiter?
iron gate
yeah that’s what’s supposed to happen
you’ll see a new active job in your action center if you get moved along the application process
languid orbit
I think mine has been at routed to recruiter for a WHILE
iron gate
but man, i got to the onsite last year for SWE intern. It'd be kind of a kick in the nuts if they just ghosted me this year lmao
languid orbit
Lol! Feel ya... Google just did that to me
languid orbit
F
crimson shale
for everyone asking about square, mine was 2 easy and 2 med
tight marlin
@iron gate I'm in the same boat, onsite for swe intern last year and have been "routed to recruiter" for new grad since august
iron gate
pain
mortal temple
out of curiosity how long do reference checks/background checks stages tend to last?
made it to a couple and have no idea how long they could take
rotund helm
@mortal temple like after you got the offer
mortal temple
no this is after onsite but before offer
mortal temple
yeah it's both doing a background check + doing reference checks
stark otter
but the next step is offer right?
nice
ah damn Idk how ill do on those, I am sure my mentor form my internship 3 years ago remembers me
somber turtle
!salary NCR
feral martenBOT
Unable to locate data on Ncr
mortal temple
yeah haha i hope my references still like me
somber turtle
People who got NCR. What is the offer details for Atlanta?
atomic badge
Do people accept multiple new grad offers?
worthy spear
I thought you're only allowed to accept only one.
pulsar portal
who is the big brother here to allow/disallow?
I thought you're only allowed to accept only one.
@worthy spear
stark otter
i mean i know people who have accepted and then gotten a better company and switched before joining
vocal carbon
I mean in theory you can accept 10 offers and just reneg a day before joining
who's stopping you
stark otter
yeah they will prolly blacklist you for a bit
rocky spoke
anyone who's had OCI onsite - what's the format like?
latent cipher
@rocky spoke super similar to the phone round for me
3 rounds, 1 purely behavioral (incidental i think, my interviewer happened to be on the IT side and not a dev), 2 mixed technical/behavioral
each technical interview had 1 LC question, 1 array/strings med (not actually on LC, just similar to med questions i’d solved), 1 technically LC hard but not a super difficult arrays question
one of my interviews also had an OOD question
tiny wedge
anyone able to negotiate a closer start date out of vmware?
tight marlin
anyone get team matched in boston for vmware? I've just been seeing palo alto offers
latent cipher
@tight marlin no i got matched in palo alto but i had gotten an email abt a week and a half ago about a SWE position in Boston
tight marlin
was it just for one opening, or did it mention multiple spots?
acoustic venture
Anyone here know what to expect for virtual "onsite" with Housecall Pro?
pseudo wigeon
do companies autoreject if they're not able to meet your offer deadline?
uneven pasture
do companies autoreject if they're not able to meet your offer deadline?
@pseudo wigeon sometimes they'll just email you saying they're unable to meet that deadline
then you gotta tell them your deadline is pushed back
worthy spear
Anyone know if Tesla is hiring new grads or is it just return offers?
honest knoll
Yeah I have a phone interview soon
peak dirge
Did you apply on company's website? @honest knoll
honest knoll
got a referral
wind acorn
then you gotta tell them your deadline is pushed back
@uneven pasture wait so is the strat
to make up deadlines
to get yourself expedited
then tell them it was pushed back if they say they need more time
cerulean pivot
i mean
the tea is that i did that too
and they never asked questions
it was more of a deadline for myself mentally
not trying to interview forever lol
blissful adder
^
uneven pasture
to make up deadlines
@wind acorn i dont make up deadlines but sometimes i say my deadlines are earlier than they actually are to try to see if i can speed it up and give myself more time to think about offer(s)
not really lying if you do have competing offers, and hey you gotta do what's best for you lol
azure gull
So I did first round interviews with Microsoft and my recruiter emailed me two days later saying I made it to the final round....this was on september 21...still haven’t been able to schedule my final round interview
vagrant raft
^^
blissful adder
assuming the economy recovers by any decent amount they probably will
vagrant raft
Google is most likely too recruit a lot of new grads (just a guess)
blissful adder
based on what?
vagrant raft
The fact they are taking significantly less interns next year
Most are gonna be return swe interns or step
It is speculation
blissful adder
ah gotcha
vagrant raft
I'm not sundar
vagrant raft
Yea
blissful adder
@all of you going to work at quant firms
wind acorn
the tea is that i did that too
@cerulean pivot yeah this is actually a strat
I never knew since I've only been able to tell a couple of companies typically that I had deadlines since everything in past recruiting cycles has lined up well but
rocky spoke
thanks @latent cipher for the solid info. I actually was asked java trivia in my phone interview.. can i expect the same this time round?
wind acorn
woah a PM role
I think that's the first time I've seen one in #new_grad_salary_sharing
granite gazelle
anyone know if amazon vancouver is waitlisting?
latent cipher
@rocky spoke not sure bc I didn’t get Java trivia at any point! i did get one OS/concurrency question (my interviewer literally looked over my relevant coursework and picked smth) but that’s it
rocky spoke
i see, well thanks for the tips. very much appreciated
latent cipher
np! good luck!
iron gate
we all got rejected
balmy depot
Sad
tiny wedge
im hoping roblox is full of weekend warriors
proper lily
rip
balmy depot
I bet some of us will hear on monday? Unless they’re just planning on rejecting like 90% at final round. Which seems wack
iron gate
reminds me of the eternal limbo of the amazon waitlist
sinful hawk
Anyone have a good resource to review relational database concepts?
atomic pivot
thats their OA??
ebon belfry
anyone here have any idea if American Express negotiates
turbid lintel
They do not from my experience @ebon belfry
ebon belfry
they just said straight up huh
turbid lintel
Yeah and they pay really really low 😞
Hmmm NYC is pretty high cost, 93k sounds nice but it’s expensive
Florida or Arizona might be a better option to save money
ebon belfry
but is it even worth is the question. I will try to negotiate with Amex on monday
turbid lintel
You don’t lose anything truing to negotiate, Nevada is pretty nice if you like outdoors
Lake Tahoe is close by
But NYC wayyyyy better
turbid lintel
Nevada might be worth a shot, feel free to DM me about it. I interned there for around 5 months
dry mural
Where in nevada you going to?
ebon belfry
Reno
solemn epoch
did anyone else not get a confirmation email after sending codesignal to square
tired bay
CodeSignal doesn’t do confirmation emails should see it on your dashboard though
ebon belfry
we about to find out
ebon belfry
what is ur location again @normal panther
normal panther
phoenix
foggy ravine
or rapid7? trying to decide btwn offers
normal panther
which location for scwab?
foggy ravine
austin
normal panther
i have a few offers rn and im trying to decide lol
normal panther
was hoping u knew hahaha
normal panther
78k
foggy ravine
ya same
normal panther
yee, recruiter told me in the beginning and i saw a reddit post where they said 78k
foggy ravine
ik 78k isn’t bad but i be seeing other ppl get like 100k+, and feels bad idk
normal panther
ahh cant think like that, even tho i understand how u feel haha
just keep working hard and u can get there
foggy ravine
i found this about schwab
idk if i should trust it, or if like a few ppl are just pissed off
normal panther
amex, paycom, scwab
no idea tbh
its between amex and scwab, leaning towards amex because i feel like i would learn alot more there
but location isnt ideal
foggy ravine
where at
normal panther
phoenix arizona
normal panther
same
foggy ravine
idk anything about arizona :/
normal panther
thanks 😄 im a bit familar with austin since i live in texas
wind acorn
its between amex and scwab, leaning towards amex because i feel like i would learn alot more there
@normal panther +1 on amex I've heard generally good things about them
median cedar
Anyone recently appeared for Palantir Onsites?
turbid lintel
You can DM me
hallow ether
what is the interview process for roblox? is it hackerrank, phone, onsite?
iron gate
what is the interview process for roblox? is it hackerrank, phone, onsite?
@hallow ether it was hackerrank, 2 rounds of technical, then the final round which is a mix of behavioral and technical
they call the technical interview the “onsite” even though it’s not the last step in the interview process so it’s a bit confusing
hollow sphinx
@normal panther and @foggy ravine How were your final interviews at schwab? I havent been lucky enough to get opportunities at other companies but schwab has given me a chance. Also, what do you guys think of the things said about schwab on the reddit post?
rotund helm
@hollow sphinx what reddit post?
past mantle
Anybody know Peak6 new grad tc?
hollow sphinx
@rotund helm kayla posted it. It says negative stuff about schwab: https://www.reddit.com/r/cscareerquestions/comments/9qs81z/charles_schwab_or_pwc/
rotund helm
@hollow sphinx you know thats actually a good question
bc schwab acquired td ameritrade recently and i think they were decent in tech for being a bank
and they had cool stuff like think or swim
hollow sphinx
Ok, if i get an offer from schwab. Ill take it because i graduate in a month and am tired of focusing on exams and projects and interviews lol. I changed my major from EE to CS in my last year of school so my intern experience doesnt carry over and i feel like my lack of CS internships is whats giving me instant rejection emails. It would just suck if it wasnt a good company but id just have to put up with it
rotund helm
@hollow sphinx i definitely think there are worst companies than schwab to work at after graduation. 80k in dallas is roughly equivalent to 100k or more in nyc. also, pretty much every recruiter would recognize schwab on a resume. it's not exactly microsoft, but its better than a no name F500 or random startup
the biggest downside is the work prolly isn't that interesting. but on the grand scheme of things i feel like that's a small price to pay with this shit economy
foggy ravine
@hollow sphinx final round wasn’t bad, just know OOP principles, how some of the data structures work, look on glassdoor interview questions , and they asked leetcode easy questions, oh they ask u about ur resume too, emphasize team work
@rotund helm i’m deciding between charles schwab and rapid7, which is a smaller cyber security company, which do u think is better?
rotund helm
@foggy ravine tbh i have no idea what rapid7 is but since they're a tech company you might enjoy the work more
foggy ravine
🤔 tru ty
topaz knoll
Anyone here has interviewed for Compute team @ OCI?
patent surge
Does anybody have recommendations for contacting previously applied companies?
A few government apps are being super slow, still in review, and I would like to speed them up if possible.
Do I just email the recruiter straight up, or is there a more professional way to do that?
unkempt echo
email your recruiter
dry mural
hack them @patent surge
true thicket
Anyone had phone interview for Akuna capital C# junior developer?
worthy spear
anyone know what to expect for Twitter's initial 60-min phone interview?
old kestrel
Does anybody have recommendations for contacting previously applied companies?
A few government apps are being super slow, still in review, and I would like to speed them up if possible.
Do I just email the recruiter straight up, or is there a more professional way to do that?
@patent surge email straight up
old kestrel
bet
atomic badge
@true thicket any tips on how to get a call from Twitter? I always get ghosted
true thicket
@true thicket any tips on how to get a call from Twitter? I always get ghosted
@atomic badge U might want to ask @worthy spear
warm jolt
how does stock compensation work?
i recieved an offer an the employer said id be getting 25-30k in stock but i dont really get it
tired bay
Like if 1 share is 1k then you get 25 shares to own
warm jolt
yeah but can i just do whatever i please with that money or does it have to go to retirement? @tired bay
tired bay
They become shares sell or hold them
prisma coral
Should I negotiate my offer even if I don't have a competing offer?
visual lagoon
Should I negotiate my offer even if I don't have a competing offer?
@prisma coral It wouldn't hurt to ask, but how would you negotiate?
warm jolt
negotiating w/o any other offer is like a homeless man asking for more money lmao
prisma coral
negotiating w/o any other offer is like a homeless man asking for more money lmao
@warm jolt Fair enough, I was going to ask for an increase in base based on the area's cost of living as well as my skillset
I am also in the interview process at other companies, but they won't get completed before the offer deadline
warm jolt
then you can use that for the other companies and always renege your current offer if another company down the line has a better offer that youd rather take
prisma coral
I thought renege'ing after youve accepted was a big no no
warm jolt
i dont have any other offers but im going to try to negotiate relocation/signing bonus
i mean it is but unless its top company then whats that company going to do? But you gotta know doing that will burn that bridge
visual lagoon
You can't renege before accepting an offer?
warm jolt
after accepting it reneging cause some other company offered something better is what im trying to say
worthy spear
Opinions about SVB (Silicon Valley Bank)?
wind acorn
@worthy spear DM'd
acoustic venture
Would love to get some advice on this - I have a proctored CodeSignal from June in which I have a score of 813. For companies that want a proctored exam, should I just share my existing results or take the exam again given that they are from a couple months ago?
(Sorry for spamming people in both servers)
grave gull
813 is ok
idk how much higher you can get it
looks like most companies are screening after codesignal anyways
acoustic venture
I think the max is like an 850
I guess I was unsure because my results are from a while ago
tame latch
Reneging is a Nono if the company is good enough
vapid river
what does that even mean
always renege if u have a better offer
who cares about hurting feelings lmao its ur career on the line
tame latch
Reneging fb for a better offer might be bad
Because there’s only a few firms
You can exit to
For example reneging 2sigma for Jane street
Is a very hard decision
Bc there’s only so many top quant firms
And if you do decide to switch this becomes an issue.
The question becomes a trade off of do the benefits of reneging our way any negative potential of no having a job at a second firm in the future supposing that you choose to reneg
If the second firm is replaceable then it’s fine
Aka no name company etc
unkempt echo
i dont think the example is fair - theres a lot lot more comparable companies to fb
im not sure if recruiters care later in career about a new grad reneg
tame latch
Also depends on company
Some companies don’t care
Others do
You have to assess the risk/ get more info on the particular company
My point was if you reach e5/e6 levels
How many comparable firms can you get
Note that hiring costs aren’t frictionless
It probably costs 5-10k per candidate
And once you sign an offer the company hiring you has to allocate resources
warm jolt
@tame latch yeah thats what i believe if its a meh company i would say its fine to renege if you have a way better offer but if the company is reputable and pretty decent i wouldnt do that.
unkempt echo
oh i thought the scenario was new grad reneging not e5/e6 mb
normal panther
@hollow sphinx pretty easy imo. behavioral and a few easy leets
rapid pelican
Anyone gave Apple Online Test ??
cunning forge
I think reneging faang as a new grad is as a general rule not going to cause a blacklist
my friend reneged amazon for google last year and got a full time offer at amazon this year lmao
tame latch
I think I was trying to make a point of later in your career it might make an impact. Amazon might be building renegs into their process with waitlists lol.
cunning forge
eh
hard to argue that the internal tracking systems are diff for the two roles
it would be nice to collect data on this, though i assume data points are limited
yeah and it’s utilized for both new grad and intern - which i’m saying are likely to be treated the same as a result
not comparing to industry hires
you're saying this based off what exactly?
they're both on the university portal which was your initial point
i think regular ft is prob treated more severely
ah
in that case i agree with you, but i think for most of us we'd be referring to new grad right
when considering a renege
like i said, not comparing to industry hires
ya just saying it's not nec a done deal for faang size
but you should be ready to never go back lol
digital carbon
it's not too complicated: the more reneging hurts the company, the worse it is to renege
if a small company spends 3 months filling a full time role, and someone accepts an offer then reneges, the company is back at square one
and has to redo those 3 months worth of recruiting work, which is obviously a huge time sink
but obviously this doesn't really apply to internships or new grad roles at big companies because a few people reneging doesn't make a difference for those companies
but reneging on a smaller company would almost definitely burn some bridges
wind acorn
if a small company spends 3 months filling a full time role, and someone accepts an offer then reneges, the company is back at square one
@digital carbon that's not really our problem tho tbh
so we shouldn't worry about the work they'll have to do
digital carbon
I don't disagree with that
I'm just saying people talk about reneging in this black and white manner
when really it just depends on the company, and what you and the company have to lose from it
wind acorn
yeah for sure i agree on your insight though
smaller companies do have it worse to try and fill a position
but honestly a company would spend extra $$$ on finding another candidate but that's really a drop in the bucket to most
digital carbon
yea like I turned down palantir offers twice and the second time my recruiter said it's unlikely I'd be able to get a third offer in the future lmao
wind acorn
whereas for candidates literally reneging for a better opportunity aligns you better for career growth later in life
digital carbon
so yea definitely even bigger companies could care
wind acorn
wait but you turned them down not reneged right
digital carbon
yea
digital carbon
still the recruiter said that
wind acorn
i was about to be like damn lol
digital carbon
no just turned down
but honestly a company would spend extra $$$ on finding another candidate but that's really a drop in the bucket to most
@wind acorn I'm just saying, for a small company (let's say 50 developers), spending several months to fill a position is not a drop in the bucket
that's time wasted that the developers could instead spend shipping product
so it just depends on company
and that's why I said for bigger companies it probably doesn't matter as much
wind acorn
fair yeah
after all for faang they have thousands more willing to take your place
good perspective to think about but imo this shouldn't be a consideration whether to renege or not
if anything this should be a reason to renege sooner rather than later
if you renege like 1 week before your start date you'll def mess up the company
but new grads doing it like ~9 months prior to starting gives them plenty of time (albeit it sucks and costs money for the company) to find a replacement
just my 2c
digital carbon
uh yea I guess that's assuming someone has already decided that they want to renege
but yea that's fair
wind acorn
but im shook that palantir would tell you that though wtf
digital carbon
yea it was weird as fuck